actual data and science. he cofounded the great barrington declaration calling for focused protection. more recently, he brought the same scientific work into the debate over vaccinesment on thursday he made a simple case, pro-vaccine but anti-mandate. we released the episode on friday morning on podcast platforms and also on youtube. on friday evening we received this e-mail from youtube. it said, our team has reviewed your content and, unfortunately, we think it violates our medical misinformation policy. how did it violate their medical misinformation policy? they didn't say. they just linked to a bunch of corporate gobbledygook including the statement, quote, youtube doesn't allow the spread of medical misinformation that contradicts the world health organization's information about covid-19. yeah, of course, because we must always be guide by the world health organization when we might have actually have been able to stop the pandemic. and we must never contradict local health authorities even when they contradict each other or themselves about, i don't know, wearing masks indoors when when you're vaccinated or when they contradict themselves about wearing masks at all. youtube is very clear, local health authorities are always right. you may not disagree with them, and if you do, misinformation, so we will stamp it out for your own safety. of course, our conversation with the professor was not misinformation, it was a science-based, fact-based argument against vaccine mandates. especially vaccine mandates for children who have barely -- who are barely at risk from this virus. and to repeat, in our conversation the professor made clear his unequivocal support for the vaccine. but that doesn't matter. he contradicted the group think, the government lying, mandates are good. the you challenge them, you are bad. so youtube will silence you. we reached out to youtube and asked them to come on the show to explain their censorship. eventually they sent us this statement. they said it was all just a mistake. but we know that's not true. that statement came from youtube's corporate pr department after our own team here at fox reached out to them. they wanted to avoid a negative story, so they tried to pretend it was all just a mistake. sorry, guys, mistakes happen. yeah. but it's funny how the mistakes always seem to happen in one direction. it always seems to involve conservative voices, silencing views that challenge the establishment. and, in fact, we have evidence that despite youtube's corporate spin, this was not a mistake. it was a deliberate act of censorship. and it would have succeeded if it wasn't for the fact that we were going to talk about it tonight the, because we appealedded youtube's decision using their normal process. and this is the reply we got to that. they said they carefully reviewed our episode and confirmed that it violates their medical misinformation policy. what they did to us they are doing every day to so many others, americans silenced by youtube and the rest of big tech simply for challenging the anti-science, ideological dogma of much of this country's corona law. and if you don't happen to have the platform of a cable news show to complain about it, there is nothing you can do about it. we have to fight back against this. not just the insane corona haw, but the tech censorship. i live in the heart of silicon valley. i've started and run a tech company. i know this world very well. i know the ceo of youtube who needs to be held accountable for this. she's not a bad person. the if you met her, you'd see immediately she's a good person, in fact, a very down to earth person. google was literally started in her garage. they said they were going to democratize information. and, to be fair, in many ways they still do, helping people express themselves, connect with others, helping entrepreneurs find customers and artists to find an audience. but there's a dark side, and it seems to be getting darker. we talk about the how big tech's control over our society's orwellian. 1984 and big brother. there's another george orwell book that's just as relevant, "animal farm," where the revolutionaries turn into the very thing they fought against. that's what we're seeing now, the idealists of silicon valley are also the most menacing authoritarians of our age because they threaten the foundation of a free society, free expression. when you're doing the bidding of the government and taking down content they don't find convenient, how is that any different from running pravda in the soviet union or xi jinping's china daily? when you're censoring just one side of a political aisle because your advertisers in the woke boardrooms of corporate america don't want to be associated with the views of the masses they despise? how are you anything other than a partisan editorial force when you interfere in an election by burying legitimate news stories that could hurt your candidate? how is that democratizing information? big tech isn't democratizing information, big tech is manipulating information in a way that undermines democracy. here's the bottom line. we'll never change them. the only answer, as i've argued for years, is to break them up so their authoritarianism can no longer hurt our democracy and our society. break them up into tiny pieces so so everyone's voice can be heard. if you want to hear the conversation that youtube censored, you can download our podcast or go to steve hilton.tv and watch it there. and right now let's fight back together. make sure you follow us @steve hilton x, share this message when we post it and tell youtube and big tech we are not going to let them get away with this. is so now tonight let's hear directly from the man that youtube tried to silence, dr. dr. jay. proud to have you on tonight. would you please tell our audience here tonight what you told me last week and what youtube the didn't want the world to hear? let's start with the position on vaccine mandates for adults. please tell us your assessment of that policy. >> so the science is really simple, steve. what we found from a whole host of research studies that have been, that have come out is that the vaccines are fantastic tools to protect you against severe disease, and hospitalizations from from if covid. even five, six, seven months after the vaccine, after you got the vaccine. on the other hand, after five or six months, the protection against getting infected drops. i mean, there's some, you know, how much it drops is still not clear, but i'll just tell you i was vaccinated in april, and then i got covid in august. it wasn't a severe case, exactly consistent with what the literature says. so what that means is the vaccine is a great tool for self-protection but not particularly effective after a few months for public protection. but if that's true, what's the purpose of a vaccine mandate? is it to create a space where everyone's vaccinated so you're safe from covid? well, the vaccine doesn't do that. we don't actually have a technology to keep you safe from covid. so the vaccine mandate makes so little sense in the context of the scientific evidence. vaccines are great for protecting you against the severe disease. that's why i strongly recommend them to everybody. but to force them on people, actually, it doesn't make sense from a public health point of view. and that's, i think, steve, what has caused an enormous amount of harm and distrust in public health. steve: yes, exactly. and is just like the lockdowns, and you made that case back whenever it was, 18 months ago, they're not taking into any account at all the harm caused by these policies. it's all just one direction. now tell us the view that you've formed, again, based on the cay that and scientific -- data and scientific studies from around the world, you mentioned a couple on our podcast about vaccine mandates for children. >> yeah. so, first thing, children are not very efficient spreaders of this disease. we've known this from very early in the pandemic. incredible studies have been done that demonstrates that children, even when they have the same viral load, they're less likely to pass the disease on to adults than adults are to pass to children. so many children get the disease from the adults that they're around, and it's not -- i mean, it's not like other diseases. it's not like the cold. i had a little kid a few years ago, and i got colds all the time from them. kids don't pass the disease, covid, on in the same way. so, first, kids don't pass the disease on itself. second, kids are at very low risk from the harm from this disease. through the whole epidemic, something like 450, 500 children have died from this disease, which is unfortunate, over 20 months. that is fewer than died from the flu in a typical flu season. the flu poses a greater risk to children than covid does. at the same time, you know, we close schools which have harmed children. it's, a lot of it is crazy. but the vaccines for children, you know, the vaccines are relatively new, there's still some uncertainty about -- i think they're relatively safe. but there's still uncertainty about the side effects. we know, for instance, it causes myocarditis in young boys especially, you know, the 1 in 5,000, somewhere in that range. so if that's the case, you have a disease you're protecting against that has very little risk to children. you have a vaccine that has some harm, not a huge amount of harm, but you don't want to accept a lot of uncertainties if the risk you're protecting against is small. for an older person, you accept some uncertainty about the vaccine. and so what i recommend is you should basically talk to your doctor, let your -- you know, if you're a parent, talk to a doctor, get an understanding what the vaccine does do for children and then do that, not a mandate. that doesn't make any sense in that kind of context. steve: jay, thank you so much for laying that out. and as i said, if you want to hear the full conversation, you can go to california rebel base, get our podcast. jay laid out the studies behind all that, and it's just astonishing when you see the clarity of those views, that this is something you talking about didn't -- youtube didn't want the world to hear. really proud again to say, jay, that you could join us again now let's bring in my cohost, kristin garcia. kristin, you were there with me for this conversation. what -- [laughter] i mean, we both had the same reaction. what do you headache of this censorship? >> well, the fact that youtube is now claiming it was a mistake, you know, there's a technical term for that, and that's called a big, fat lie. that's what that's called. and here's how you know it's a lie. both statements can't be true. it can't be true that yesterday there was this very thorough, careful review of the content where they deemed it medical misinformation and unsafe, and then today all of a sudden magically it's a mistake. one or the other is a lie, and i think it's the latter. this was not a mistake, this was a deliberate act to censor the doctor because somebody like him who challenges the approved view is extremely dangerous. he has four degrees, mere mortals can barely eke out one degree. he has four degrees in stanford including a medical degree, he's a professor of medicine and public health. he's precisely the type of person that americans should be hearing hearing fromming -- from. he's precisely the type of person to be engaging in a scientific debate, and that's what people need to hear. that's the only reason why his voice is able to be heard now, which is stunning, is because there was an equally powerful platform if, which is fox news, that said, hey, we're going to call you out on this. we're going to call you to account for this naked censorship of scientific debate. that's not okay. and so we need to stand up for all of the diverse, small independent voices that don't have a platform like fox news and say that this will not be tolerated. steve: that's exactly right. well put. thank you, kristin. well, look, if you want to hear more conversations like that with jay and more from kristin, make sure you check us out at california rebel base.com. and now let's take a step back and look at the big picture when it comes to big tech. this is going to be a very silicon valley and stanford-heavy show tonight. there's an important book, system era, stanford university professors rob and jeremy. i should say i know them both very well, we've worked together. they've written a really, really smart and important book. and i don't want you to necessarily weigh in on what we've just been talking about because you've got some important arguments here. first of all, let's start with you, jeremy. i mean, the subtitle of your book, where big tech went wrong and how can we reboot. what's the main argument about how it went wrong? >> so the big idea here, steve, and thanks so much for having us tonight the, is that the operating system for big tech is broken, that we repeatly see ourselves in -- repeatedly see ourselves in a situation where big tech is designing technologies that have enormous benefits in some ways for our lives but also evident harms. you talked about some of the harms tonight, and the question is why does this keep happening. and at the core of that is the concentration of power in the hands of a very small number of individuals -- steve: yes, yes. >> -- who impose their values on the rest of us by the design and scaling of these technologies without any constraint, without transparency and without accountability. steve: exactly. concentrate -- i use that phrase so often in so many contexts about so many policy areas. rob, you can add to that or maybe move into some of the recommendations you have for what we should do about that. >> sure. well, we think we're leaving an era in which we, for the past 30 years basically, left it to the silicon valley geniuses who are the innovators and the entrepreneurs who have come up with some of these extraordinary technologies. and then we've been given a dream of tech know utopian nhl or at least optimism that these would be good for humanity and democracy. over the past phi years, we've seen this backlash against big tech. so i think we're finally leaving behind an era in which we just leave it to the tech thenologists, the small number of people at the top of a maul number of companies to solve all of these problems for us. we see these evident harms, and it's going to be agency for all of us -- users, citizens, civil society organizations, government agencies, folks of all kinds, now is the time for us all to weigh in on the incredible power of big tech and to try to hold them to account. steve: and what's your view on the break-up question? i touched on it at the end of my rant there. where do you both stand on that? >> let me just quickly say, in the book we argue that antitrust action is a very important first step, although with respect to the topic we've been talking about that tonight on censorship or vaccine information, i'll have to say that in my own view i don't see how antitrust approaches are going to be successful at diminishing whether or not different companies decide to uprank or down rank speech. a colleague of ours here has this fantastic line which is that every single person is entitled to freedom of speech, but no one is entitled to freedom of reach. no one has a right to algorithmic amplification. so youtube, a private company, it deletes all kinds of information way beyond whatever its vaccine his information policies happen to be, and if the government were to try to legislate, that would potentially run into some first amendment violations. as i believe you think as well, steve, we think it would be a good thing to have much more competition in the market place so that different people could sort themselves into the kind of speech regulation systems on social media that they prefer. steve: yeah, i think that's right. jeremy, i'd love you to address something i heard you, one of you talk about the -- i can't remember exactly who it was -- when you were talking about the book which is the broader concept and point about how scientific progress and advances need to have some kind of ethical framework around them. we need to be thinking not just can we do this, but should we do this and have much more sort of public participation in that process. i thought it was really interesting. >> exactly, steve. so clearly a part of responding to the challenges that we face with big tech is going to come on the side of our democracy deliberating about what are the right regulatory frameworks. but that's not the exclusive solution to the challenges that we confront. as two professors teaching here at stanford where we educate more than 300 technologists a year who are headed on a fast highway straight into silicon valley, we believe that the tech sector needs to develop an ethic of responsibility. we know what this ethic of responsibility looks like in medicine. we know what it looks like in the law. we've increasingly seen it in fields like bioengineering. but you really don't have an ethical code that helps technologists make judgments not only about what products they should build, but also what processes they should follow to figure out what might be the unintended consequences and when that desire for growth, that desire to scale as quickly as possible against some of the evident social harms that we see of technology whether it's on young people, whether it's on the quality and health of our democracy, whether it's on the plight of workers who are seeing their jobs disappear as a result of automation. we need tech to look at what it's building with that ethical lens and begin to set some constraints on its own choices in addition to looking to constraints that might come from elsewhere. steve: yes, exactly. what an -- honestly, i cannot recommend this book highly enough. system error. it's really smart. as i say, people may not necessarily agree with all of it, but it's a fantastic account of how we got to where we are and how we can move forward in a positive direction. rob, jeremy, really appreciate you joining us tonight, thank you. all right, we'll be right back straight after this. got directv stream. now we can watch live tv and on demand. serena... scary movie... serena... scary movie... serena williams ready to serve. ahh! quiet, please. triple match point serena williams... this is her moment. ahh! quiet, please. ahh! quiet, please! get your tv together with the best of live and on demand. introducing directv stream, with no annual contract. and there you have it- woah. wireless on the most reliable network nationwide. wow. -big deal! ...we get unlimited for just 30 bucks. sweet, i get that too and mine has 5g included. that's cool, but ours save us serious clam-aroonies. relax people, my wireless is crushing it. that's because you all have xfinity mobile with your internet. it's wireless so good, it keeps one upping itself. ♪ ♪ steve: well, there's a stiff competition going on right now for the title of the biden regime's most stupid and most self-defeating policy. saying to the taliban, you know what? we don't need to control all of kabul, you take the rest. was it paying people to stay home and wondering why the jobs reports are getting worse and worse? was it defunding the police and seeing violent crime go out of control? opening the southern border and seeing illegal immigration rise out of control? they're all strong contenders. but tonight i'm going to make a case that the most stupid and most self-defeating policy is biden's war on energy. to be fair, he did warn us. >> we are going to get rid of fossil fuels. steve: he wasn't kidding. as soon as he got into office, biden stopped new oil and gas leases on public lands, canceled the keystone pipeline and announced the reimposition of the red tape before trump got rid of it. they keep talking about wind power, doesn't help much if if you have a, quote, windless summer like in the u.k. they want solar power even though it can't be economically store thed, and the panels are made with carbon and slave labor from china. they're shutting down nuclear power which is the most reliable carbon-free source of energy we've got. what's the entirely predictable result? the price goes up. so now we have gas prices at a seven-year high, energy costs pushing up and heating costs predicted to jump as much as 54% this winter. so what are the geniuses in the biden regime doing about this crisis they created? in their giant spending bill, they want to take more money from american workers and give it in subsidies to rich democrats in california so they can virtue signal about how green they are. except as a result of the clampdown on oil and gas, we're now importing more oil from saudi arabia. and most insane of all, they're trying to fill the energy gap they created in the name of fighting climate change by begging opec to pump more oil. so they're against energy if jobs in this country, but in favor of them in other countries. they want us to be more reliant on energy that's less reliable and on dictators and despots including vladimir putin, i thought they hated him? all the while increasing fuel prices and carbon emissions. can anyone if make sense of this? let's see if larry kudlow can. he is, of course, host of "kudlow" on the fox business network -- [laughter] and he joins us now. all right, larry, what is this about? >> by the way, it's a real horse race on which is the dumbest policy. i mean -- [laughter] it's a stock looking for a bottom in the charts. but, look, there is, because of the biden policies you were discussing, there is now a shortage of fossil fuels. there's a shortage here in the u.s., but that shortage is global. and i'll give you probably the base case here. we were the swing producers, under trump, we were the swing producers, the u.s., of oil. and unfortunately now under biden, we are no longer the swing producer. the saudis and opec plus is. so we were pumping out 13 million barrels per day pre-pandemic, and since the pandemic or as we've recovered it has dropped to 11 million barrels a day despite the increase in economic demand. there has been no increase in the supply of oil. the same is true for natural gas. look, the oil price tonight, tonight is trading at $83.05. i checked before i came on. that's double where it was roughly a year ago. natural gas is $5.25, that's almost a double from where it was a year ago. and gasoline -- which is driven by oil -- is $3.31. it's not quite a double. so these are crazy policies. we have gone from the swing producer, we have gone from plentiful, relatively cheap oil and natural gas, natural gas is really the beauty of it all, clean burning, relatively clean burning. we're no longer the cheap -- they're not investing. our guys aren't producing. now, there was a story in the paper saturday morning that joe biden has rediscovered frackers, okay? [laughter] someone must have told him that we can produce oil in the u.s. so he doesn't have to go to saudi arabia hat in hand or russia for european natural gas. someone probably told him, whether they told him directly or through a memo, i can't verify that. i've been out of the white house for quite a while. but maybe he's now loin -- going to go to our oil companies and natural gas and say, go ahead, produce because high prices are damaging the middle class, high prices are part of the problem of rising inflation. maybe. i don't know that this is going to happen. i'm just saying that was the headline. steve: very interesting. you know, i love that. you laid it out so clearly, larry. and the thing that i always remember, when you were in the white house and you talked about the economic situation and all those pro-growth policies, the thing i always noticed was that you always put energy in there. ending the war on energy, you always said it. and that is because you understand that it's the foundation. it's not some separate part of economic policy, it's the foundation of a great, successful economy. and you made it happen when you were there, and like with everything else there, heavy gone into reverse, and it's a disaster. anyway, we've got to leave threat, larry -- >> all right. steve: go on. quickly, no, go on. >> i was going to say it's a national security issue, and it's an economic issue. steve: yes, exactly. >> one other positive thing here. joe manchin, i think, is forcing biden to take out a big chunk of the green new deal in this crazy budget resolution. i think he's going to win that battle. and there's a revolt. so at some point, i think we're going to go back to being the swing producer. but the more biden fights this and the more the crazies on the left fight it, the worse the american economy's going to be and the worse our national security position's going to be. steve: exactly right. i'm glad i let you get that in there. very important point 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them. >> the president has -- the supply chain task force has been working around the clock for months and months now to address a range of different issues that we see in the supply chain. >> let's remember, these are private sector the systems. this is a capitalist country. nobody wants the federal government to own or operate the stores, the warehouses, the trucks or the ships or the ports. steve: oh, so it's the private sector's fault, it's our fault the biden regime paid workers to stay at home, raised energy costs and imposed stupid the anti-science vaccine mandates. and don't you love the quaint way pete buttigieg talks fondly about capitalism? the people who run his party are just not that into it. but the deeper problem with the supply chain crisis is not that the supply chains are disrupt9, but the fact they exist in the first place. for decades the establishment in both parties without into the globalist ideology that shipping jobs and manufacturing to china was a win-win. china becomes more democratic, we get cheaper products and a lower cost of living. but china got more authoritarian. the only people better off here were the elites who profited from the hollowing owl out of america's -- hollowing out of america's heartland. we weakened ourselves while strengthening our number one enemy, and now look what's happening. just today we see reports of a nuclear-capable hypersonic missile, far more advanced than anything we thought they had. we made china richer so they could informs in the technology they're now -- invest in the technology they're now planning to use for world domination. you, bill clinton, you, george bush, you, barack obama, you, joe biden, all of you,ushing the decades-long suck-up to china. the disastrous, strategic miscalculation in modern history. china's power is built on economic foundations that we put there. it's time to take them away. so, no, we should not be rushing to fix our broken supply chain with china. it's not a supply chain, it's a noose. let's cut ourselves free. decouple from china. bring back jobs to america. we may not be at war with china, but they are most surely at war with us. so let's use the trading with the enemy act to immediately enforce a complete economic disengagement from china. here with reaction, fox news contributor sara carter. what do you think, can we do this? can we decouple from china? >> well, people have been asking this for decades. analysts have been saying, look, china is the greatest threat, the chinese communist party is one of the biggest threats. we saw just recently, just a week ago, a senior official with the pentagon with the air force saying i resign because china's cybersecurity makes us look like kindergarten. why are we so far behind? and look at china's threats to taiwan. we've seen china overtly threatening taiwan, and, you know, there's issues with the semiconductors. we are so far behind, we are so far behind and we've turned over the supply chain to china, and we've done so for decades. so will we just sop it? we could have -- stop it? we could have had that opportunity turned president trump. president trump overtly was very kind to china, and behind the scenes he dealt with a heavy fist, a heavy hand. and that is something that we're not seeing now in the biden administration. i'm very fearful of what we can see in the next few decades. steve, look back at covid, right? all we have to do is look and know that we were under threat there of national security because china basically manufactured over, what, 95% of our antibiotics? steve: exactly. >> our vitamin c, all of our supplies. so if we don't wake up and do something about this, we could find ourselves far behind china. we will not be the united states -- steve: exactly. >> -- we will be something quite different. steve: exactly right. and they know that we're so dependent on them, and that's why they, they're not really worried by what we're saying. and then they see us now scrambling, oh, we've got to refix the supply chain. these people aren't serious, we can keep going the way it's the always been. >> right. steve: just because you've been following it to closely, i want to ask you a different topic, if i may, about the border. because there's a lot of new information that came out this week about the scale of the biden regime's border crisis. what can you tell us about what's been happening lately? >> well, it's absolutely frightening, what's happening at the border. and i was kind of laughing when you if ask larry kudlow were talking about what is the worst, what could possibly be the worst policy issues in this administration. i think it's just everything. right now bill melugin with fox news, my colleague, he was able to get some documents. i was actually in del rio last week along the border, along the rio grande. bill broke the story that over 94,000 people, 94,000 people since march 2020 have been released with a notice to report. let me explain this so that everybody understands it. a notice to report means that we just let you go. you may never show up. the person that we let go, we tell them, you know, report to your local i.c.e. office wherever you go. well, the majority of them will never to that. think about 94,000. now all the others that have been released, all the others that have been released and been kept in housing facilities. we're looking at nearly 2 million this year if if it continues, and we're looking at roughly 400,000 people trying to enter the united states this month. this month. so this is how serious it is. it's a national security crisis, steve. it's a humanitarian crisis. it's extraordinarily dangerous. we have had armed cartel members literally threatening our law enforcement officials on the rio grande, stepping right in and threatening our national guard. and our national guard and our law enforcement officials have to just step back and do nothing. they are terrified that this is going to escalate into an international incident. so this is how serious the situation has gotten at the border. the biden administration is refusing to do anything about this. there is a deep concern that things will get far worse, and think about all the children that are being affected by this as well. steve: yeah. and this is from the people who say they're so compassionate, and they're doing this because they're so compassionate and caring. it's so disgusting to watch it happen. deliberately created by them because of their open borders ideology. sara, great points, as always. i know you'll be following it, and we'll see you very soon. all right, we'll be right back after this. back after this. ♪ if you're working from home, you're probably driving less. maybe a lot less. at metromile, we think you should be paying less for your car insurance; a lot less. and paying less doesn't mean getting less. with metromile's per-mile pricing... what you pay is based on how many miles you actually 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rape of his daughter as a domestic terrorist instead of rejecting that slur out of hand as they should have done. the bind regime endorsed it with the her ific garland memo threatening to involve the fbi in these local a matters. as we said last week, this crossed the line. it demonstrated that this regime, the biden regime, is a fascist regime with a fascist mineset. and we -- mindset. and if you missed this, it's a piece by former representative jim seven seven bern, one of the authors of the patriot act after 9/11 -- sensenbrenner. he talks about, quote, the biden administration's unparalleled everett to transform agencies into instruments of political repression. e he described the memo as the memorandum that will live in infamy. he goes on to say unless it is immediately withdrawn, the memorandum will chill free speech, undermine civil liberties, erode public confidence in federal law enforcement, divert resources from actual terrorist threats and weaken congressional support for key anti-terrorism laws. all of these developments would make americans less free, less secure and less safe. he is completely right. we cannot just let this pass by and move on. we must put pressure on the biden regime, this farrest regime, to withdraw -- fascist regime, to withdraw the garland memo. and in the meantime, we must not retreat in the face of their outrageous threats and intimidations. fight the divisive, racist, hateful woke madness in our schools, fight the insane anti-science coroma laws that are -- corona laws. parents must fight on and fight to win. let us know what you think @steve hilton x and share this message when we post it. we'll be right back with an all new swab watch after this short break. ♪♪ got directv stream. now we can watch live tv and on demand. serena... scary movie... serena... scary movie... serena williams ready to serve. ahh! quiet, please. triple match point serena williams... this is her moment. ahh! quiet, please. ahh! quiet, please! get your tv together with the best of live and on demand. introducing directv stream, with no annual contract. steve: the other week i saw a viral moment one of the leading advocates made his case to people who would be affected by them, at u.s. in 2019. >> over 80% of americans want term limits to happen. donald trump and barack obama want it, it is blocked by self-interest of congress, if this were a trial you would have to recuse yours yourself there is a conflict of interest. you will have to become, ordinary citizens. and that is my friends the point. we're asking you to do what is right, listen to the people you represent, it's time to bring the gravy train into station, give congress back to the people. >> so, fox news contribute or jason chaffetz with us to discuss it. i thought of you, this is something you have been consistent on. what -- are we getting new energy? behind the term limits movement. >> the energy is there, the question is who will bring it up for a vote, get in, serve, get out. do it for congress and the career bureaucrats within the administrative state who learn how to run it long time. try to out live the time that members of congress are there. do it for the management of the bureaucracy of our for the federal government, they need term limits almost more than congress. steve: the other thing is the i think you made the point, the congressional staff, they are like policy directors, they will stay there and they end up being captured by the lobbyists, they know more about it than the congress that come and go. >> the people that stay there in perpetuity are those who you worry about. there are a lot of people that can get in, serve, then get out. serve your nation, provide service for a few years, rely on experience from outside of government, and come in, then go back and till the field as george washington did. >> you are right. this is -- there is so many things like. this actual really matters who are election the character of the people you election are they going to go there and. i don't know if there is a phrase in american policies, but u.k., they say going native, like the ambassadors, they send them to another country, and they go native. that is like with the swamp. >> you get the potomac theater, it is intoxicating, they like the lifestyle and title. they just continue to hang out. people don't have to keep electing them. just because they have been there does not mean you can keep electing them, you can send them home there are other people that can do this job, i have been there, a lot of them are flat out idiots. >> right. and the fact they just there doing the busy work. i love those who are there like texas for example, part of the year or a couple months. >> in utah legislative session is 45 days, it is all part of this citizen -- you can't do it full time and make 30 bucks, that is not going to work, there is a better, smarter way to do this. steve: you have been so strong on this. jason we we love it. >> great to see you, thank >> great to see you, thank s. >> when somebody welcomes a nes on leave to take care of the child. it's not a vacation, it's work. todd: transportation secretary pete buttigieg defending pa pent paternity leave as supply chain issues get worse, plus. >> after 22 years serving the state of washington, i'm asked to leave. jillian: a state trooper slams leaders in washington state who refuse to back down on today's

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