of a. to me, if it looks like painting that i could actually duplicate then, it looks like those numbers. >> laura: you could take a bunch of toilet paper rolls and goal like this all over. we will pick it up where you left off and we will be watching trump on your show tomorrow as well. i'm lauren graham, this is "the igraham angle." last night we told you beware of the facebook with a blower hero narrative and glenn greenwald has an important update on that. plus we are finally learning why exactly lieutenant colonel seller was locked in the break and what awaits him now. important new details. and, fauci makes his disney plus debut. raymond arroyo has it all in seen and unseen. but first, biden's biggest covid lies, that's the focus of tonight's angle. every now and then we need to stop what we are doing, pause for a few moments and remember how horribly biden and his flaunted medical experts have handled covid post trump. but first we have to go back to what biden said before the election of that final presidential debate. be to 220,000 americans dead. if you hear nothing else i say tonight, here this. anyone who is responsible for not taking control, in fact, not saying, i take no responsibility initially, anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as president of the united states of america. >> laura: or really, why didn't biden stepped down today? more people died of covid in 2021 then all of 2020. that's 53,000 compared to 350 to 3,000 last year. so despite being handed vaccines and promising therapeutics, biden has presided over a year of death. let's recall what the media were saying every time a new 100,000 mark was reached when trump was in office. >> 100,000 americans lives lost and there is no denying that this could've been avoided. >> these deaths are in president trump. we are at 180,000 moving to 200,000. speak of united states approaching 200,000 coronavirus deaths, donald trump has total lack of empathy or any plans. >> laura: at 2020 during the height of the campaign this is how the ap covered covid deaths under trump. at 200,000 that is trump vilify science and prioritizes politics. and how did that post report the 700,000 american deaths? well, i search the post website tonight and this is what popped up. i found nothing blaming biden's leadership from the stunning loss of life, not even a feature on passing the 700,000 mark. we tried searching a number of ways and each time we came up with nothing. instead, biden languishing a pathetic 38% and a new poll out today. "the washington post" threw him a covid lifeline counting some flimsy study that claims that the vaccines possibly, may become a kind of, could have, prevented 39,000 deaths among seniors in the first five months of the year. maybe you did and maybe it didn't. democracy dies in the darkness indeed. as for abc news they did cover the biden covid death story and here's the story. it was two lines long. okay the same press corps so eager to blame trump for everything never lays any blame on the feet of the biden administration is covid deaths. what happened to those once omnipresent covid death targets? the graphics that cnn and nbc clung to all of last year and some of this year as well? but given the 2021 covid death numbers, the milestone paths today, a truly independent press would at least question biden's approach. maybe has methods and maybe even his actual policies which may in fact be making covid worse by undermining public trust in our so-called health experts. suspicion does run deep among millions of americans for one obvious reason. the stubborn refusal of our government officials to acknowledge the obvious. that natural immunity from prior covid exposure is long-lasting and durable across variance. >> we don't know how long that natural immunity lasts and that will be a bit? in terms of future searches. >> those who are banking on the immunity offered by infection to protect them will eventually need to get vaccinated to sustain that immunity. >> and a few moments are actual experts will tell you why those experts that you just heard were off-base. but suffice it to say, studies from the prestigious cleveland clinic and one israeli study of 758,000 people, they were either dismissed by these folks are ignored altogether. in fact according to that is really report, natural immunity is far superior, 27 times better than the protection afforded by the vaccines against symptomatic infections. back in mid-september, designed to to dove raised the issue finally with dr. doom and gloom, anthony fauci. >> i get calls all the time of people thing i've already had covid, unprotected, now studies say even more protective than the vaccine alone. so they also get the vaccine? how do you make the case for them? >> that's a really good point. i don't have a firm answer on you for that, that's something we will have to discuss regarding the durability of the response. >> laura: discuss? what about the durability of the vaccine? that wasn't necessarily proven over that was mandated for businesses and recommended by the government. we are still awaiting his discussion. come on, tony. when biden pledged to let science to guide his response we warned you it was all a ruse. biden and his health advisor is never actually cared about that, it was all about clinging to power and the cost. for instance by the time biden took office the data was crystal clear that schools could safely be reopened for full-time, in person learning. but instead of listening to the data and looking at the data come biden echoed the erroneous talking points from teachers unions that were hell-bent on classrooms being shut down. now biden and company have endorsed the big lie that vaccines needed to be mandated for kids who are in school in order to really back to normal. >> president biden: children's have four times higher chance of being hospitalized if they live in a state with low vaccination rates rather than states with high vaccination. >> there are so many, many reasons for adolescents to be vaccinated. >> and so the best way to our full faith is to vaccinate everyone who can be vaccinated. statement of the best way to give our school safe is to keep them away from you. forcing that seems not only evil but profoundly antiscience. we talked about this i think since march of 2020 but the evidence showed in italy as it showed in china that kids are highly, highly unlikely to get very ill or to contract, spread or get seriously sick from covid. in fact, schools have been among the safest places for kids to be and also teachers throughout the pandemic. how about day care centers that have operated without outbreaks? and the need for everyone to be vaccinated to get back to normalcy, normality? is a headline from cnn last month. u.s. states that had some of the worst covid-19 rates last week also reported the highest rates of new vaccinations. okay. they had to print out, i guess. but the lies from biden and friends don't stop there. they've been feeding us the same drivel about mask mandates for months. >> i don't think we will be able to throw the masks away and forget about physical separation and congregate settings for a while. speak to one of our 100 day challenges is asking the american people to mask up for the first hundred days, the next 99 days. it's a patriotic act. >> laura: when will that 100 days finally ended? numbers are hard for joe truth be told. it's what the cdc said in april. the agency is not aware of any randomized controlled trials that show that mask or double masks or cloth face coverings are effective against covid-19. we told you this in the beginning. so i guess the administration just doesn't trust his own agency now? we are confused. and the biggest whopper of them all is the lockdowns of stay-at-home orders that really worked. it's a favorite fairy tale of covid's closest advisors. >> if you look at what happened, they really did it to the tune of about 95 plus percent of the country that did that. we really functionally shut down only about 50%. >> is always so miserable the freer we are. if lockdowns work, new jersey and new york would have much lower covid death rates than south dakota or florida. of course that's not the case. new jersey's rate stands at 310 deaths per hundred thousand, new york's is 283 per hundred thousand and they've devastated their economies. and south dakota is 244 per 100k. not only are covid death rates of course lower in those letter to states, so are there unemployment rates. we are never going to know how many lives were saved just having gainful employment saved but we do know that depression kills and being shut in without a job, without any human contact, out of school, let millions to feel isolated and despondent. whenever big government and big pharma get together, americans need to ask a lot of questions as their media obviously will not. whatever pouch he said, the press took his gospel, regardless of what the actual data showed. when the government fought so hard to kill hydroxychloroquine, i knew their lies and half-truths would multiply and they did. even a half-wit knows now that our own public health officials knew more than they were letting on about the work being done hon. so why did they dismiss that lovely kateri so vigorously? what were they afraid of? we will find out eventually. the drama will rival anything hollywood has put out in years. let's just hope all the villains get their comeuppance in the end for how they misled america. and that's the angle. join me now is dr. peter mccullough, yale school of medicine at the epidemiologist. dr. mccullough, the rejection of clear science early on in this pandemic, that was so obvious to me as a nonmedical professional because i have people like you guys and other really smart people who are not political advising the angle. where are we now in all of this given what we know is true and untrue about what they said? >> we are following in every building story that natural immunity is robust, complete and durable. in a september 17th issue of the british met medicine journal walk summarized in a wonderful report that using census in cdc asked, estimates, 120 million americans have know how to covid-19 and whether they are vaccinated or not they had at the infection, and they represents 44% of those ages 14 through 49. that large block has a negligible risk of covid-19 that they can basically release their fear of getting the infection again and it doesn't happen in any significant risk whatsoever and there are six studies now showing that if they are needlessly failed comic vaccinated there is access harm. that's a clear message that americans should take home that natural immunity is the a backstop of us getting out of the pandemic. >> laura: and dr. rich what's being said in response to that, even if you had prior exposure, getting a shot will give you supercharged immunity. so what's the harm? >> there is the extraordinary number of adverse events and deaths that have been registered in the database, hundreds of thousands of serious adverse events from the vaccinations, and i think it was at 12,000 deaths. it is way too much compared to every vaccine we have ever approved in the past and there is the harm. >> laura: and now we find out the punishment and shame being used by the biden administration to not be vaccinated and that has spread to some states where you see the uc health in colorado it says that while perform transplant surgery for unvaccinated patients in most cases. is that the purpose of the vaccine policy is to protect the health of its patients. what if you need a heart transplant and you are going to die without it, your marguerite about dying from covid? >> i can tell you i do -- i'm deeply worried that that type of policy would backfire. we know that pfizer and the dharna has official warnings on myocarditis and we now have over 6,000 cases the cdc has certified as having male carditis. that in itself damages the heart with a spike protein, and that's the last thing we would want in a heart transplant candidate. i'm fearful that heart transplant candidates were actually encouraged to take the vaccine that some would be damaged by the vaccine and innocence with their chances of survival to the transplant. >> laura: do you think we are close to learning more about what the u.s. is doing in wuhan and yet refuse to talk about early on in this pandemic? >> to the day that we can get foia and information out about the nih and government people who were involved in the process, and we will find out, i think they will go to whatever links they can to suppress any of that being released. we've been able to put together very clear pictures of all the malfeasance in the company that developed all of the genetic tools for making the virus patented in 2013, how those tools were used by the wuhan institute of virology, to create the virus and make it in fact human cells. this is all public information now and so we know how this gain-of-function research was done and who did it. >> laura: and u.s. dollars going to groups that were involved with the one lab. gentlemen, great to see you tonight. shocking new documents shed new light on covid's possible origins as we were just discussing. documents were obtained by the analysis group that said they will hand lab planned on creating an entirely new type of coronavirus by splicing together those genetic sequences of viruses found in nature. well that risky and frankly reckless proposal was submitted by none other than peter -- back of the eco-health alliance to the u.s. defense department back in 2018. joining me now as former secretary of state mike pompeo. secretary pompeo, that was during the trump administration. the dod never did fund this plan, but this guy was so close to the wuhan lab, working with the wuhan lab and knowing there is safety issues over the years. why were we giving them a dime? >> he has a lot of questions to answer. that was represented on the investigation, and how about that for the fox inside the henhouse? peter -- check was involved in the funding from the eco-health alliance and it appears that that was the group that was connected to the institute of virology, on the very kinds of viruses that we saw escape from that lab with near certainty. peter -- it has a lot of questions to explain on how this happened and why the american taxpayer dollars were going for this and ultimately now 3 million and rising deaths. >> laura: and yet francis collins is the outgoing director. and now people think it's a very remote possibility that could explain the origin of the original virus. watch. >> most likely this was a natural origin starting in a bad and may be traveling through the intermediate host. i can't rule out the possibility that secretly the houlihan institute got that virus and was studying it and had a lab accident and it got loose but i have no evidence at all to support that. >> laura: is no evidence at all, there's certainly circumstantial evidence. it's like the chances of this not being a lab league are infinitesimal at this point, according to the big "wall street journal" piece that came out today. >> it would have been april of last year when i went on sunday show and said it's pretty likely that this is what took place. we know a great deal more and the likelihood that this came from the lab is increasingly clear. the chance that this was a couple -- there are a bunch of folks, not only peter you mentioned but all the folks who covered this up and all the folks who knew the work that had been done at the wuhan institute of biology, this lab is still operational. and there is no evidence that they had stopped doing what they were doing in this lab become the very failure of the capacity to protect the world from a virus that was being worked on this laboratory still exist today and the risk that this could happen again is very real and we to make sure that there are no dollars from the united states going to the wuhan institute of virology today. >> laura: very quickly, the white house response today at, more questions about china sending more military jets. >> we strongly urged economic and pressured directed to a taiwan. >> so what does that say about the credibility of the u.s.? >> i think the secretary of state's book this earlier and i don't have any more to add what he said. >> one line to describe that response. >> the backdrop of the disaster that was afghanistan, the russian pipeline that was permitted, the fact that iranian missiles, i think xi jinping sees that with respect to taiwan, and we need to do an awful lot more than a simple sentence or we need to make clear that the united states is not going to accept xi jinping's desire to what he calls reunify the taiwanese. >> laura: if you think the silent surrender is happening? >> i fear it is. i pray that it's not, united states needs to do a lot to make taiwan capable. we have partners and friends, the japanese and south koreans, all these countries could do an awful lot more in the united states must do this for the people of taiwan. >> laura: secretary pompeo, great to see you tonight. last night we warned you that something didn't seem right about the facebook whistle-blower, glenn greenwald is here reacting to the troubling ties plus the lawyer of lieutenant colonel stuart scheller is here with more on that case. there's software. and then there's industrial grade software, forged from decades of industrial experience and insights. meet honeywell forge. analytical software that connects assets and people to deliver a cybersecure record of your entire operation. so that everyone, in your boardroom and beyond, speaks the same language. honeywell forge. industrial grade software. >> i want to give you my heart heartfelt gratitude for your courage and strength thing coming forward as you have done standing up to one of the most powerful and impactful corporate giants in the history of the world. >> thank you for your courage in coming forward. >> thank you very much for your bravery in coming forward. >> laura: that was suspicious from the beginning and it's clear why they fawned over the facebook whistle-blower. and the deputy press secretary founded a democrat super pac. speaking of which, she was a took a terrific donor to the left wing packet. so of course the senate loved her. breaking tonight, our suspicions about this thing attract a green light censorship of conservatives on social media has been confirmed. sources tell fox that frances haugen will meet with them as soon as tomorrow. glenn, that was a quick hop, was it not come from protecting the kids online to january 6th. how did that hop happen so fast? >> i find this whole narrative about her being a brave whistle-blower can i question both the bravery part and the whistle-blower part. what is courageous about what she did, she's being treated like a foreign dignitary, a member of the royal court by the media and in washington. i've actually worked with brave whistle-blower is before and they have prosecuted or in prison or in exile, like edward snowden and julian massage, people that revealed secrets that we didn't know before. she's like this vessel saying that the power of facebook should be preserved and the democratic party so the power sense of the internet no longer officially resides at facebook but instead the congress or executive branch and of course, she can be used by the generally six commission because she is an operative for the democratic party and everything she's been saying has been designed to advance the intros. >> laura: does the smack of the approach that china takes to dissent? i know that sounds really alarmist. and it's peace of mind and couched in these positive ways you end up losing a job or a member of your family, your life were going to jail, or vilified. that's kind of slowly but surely what seems to be happening here. >> they are universal traits of every sensor and every culture and every historical period, one of which is which they assure you that the reason they have to repress information is to protect the greater good. the information is either false or dangerous but i don't think it's a stretch at all to say it feels like these countries. at the 2020 election when "the new york post" revealed incriminating documents not about hunter biden but joe biden kept facebook through a democratic party operative announced it would suppress the story and twitter band of the ability to even link to it. if you try to link to it twitter would say you cannot link to the story we have deemed it to be dangerous or harmful and that's exactly what happens in repressive places where the inner internet is restrictive and controlled for the benefit of one political party, the dominant party. and that's what they use the internet for. >> laura: but the internet doesn't want to break up these companies, it would make things more interesting. but don't they like having the damocles sword hanging over zuckerberg? he's kind of the last of the holdouts. he does sensor and suppressed but not quite as bad as the dorsey into twitter and some of the other outlets. they like having that threat of going after him hanging over his head but are they going to really issue standards or just make them self police aggressively so as not to run into any first amendment issues? >> fortunately there are serious people in both parties, you are interested in actually enforcing antitrust laws against facebook and google not to censor but because these companies are too powerful to be consistent with a healthy democracy including the chair of the f easy, lee nikon. but most democrats are interested in this for exactly the reasons you said. it's not that jack dorsey is more eager to censor, but he's not as powerful as facebook is that they've been able to resist a little more and that is why there is so much anger at facebook and what you said it, we don't need to guess that. facebook has been summoned to the congress four times in last year and every time mark zuckerberg goes, they saved him explicitly you better start censoring more or we are going to punish you with legal and retaliatory reprisals. >> laura: glenn, sometimes do you wake up and think it's like circa 1982, it seems to be ramping up. the president returns to mr. biden's neighborhood and dr. fauci makes his disney plus debut. raymond arroyo has it all, seen and unseen. >> laura: it's time for our seen and unseen segment where we expose the cultural stories of the day and for that we turn to fox news contributor raymond arroyo. raymond, there were a lot of theatrics today on display from government officials. >> laura, it began when the president made a return to mr. biden's neighborhood. now that would be the steps the administration built to evoke the white house. next door, the old executive office building and we showed people this last week. biden virtually met with business leaders in an attempt to whip up fears, should congress refuse to raise that limit. it was another smooth and totally impromptu performance. >> president biden: you run one of the largest banks in america. i would like now, with your permission, i would like to ask -- let me ask you the devcon ten question. if we don't, if we default even for a day or two, what do you think the impact on the market will be? >> what do you think them impact will be on the market if the president keep speaking like this? he sleepwalking through events and it builds a zero confidence. >> laura: what is that little desk next to him? is that janet yellen? >> they have people around him on the set to make them feel like it's in the white house, i don't understand it. >> laura: it's a teeny tiny little desk. >> i know, it's a little resolute. today laura just went by it and begin interacting supporting cut cast of ceos, they hustled the press out of the theater. this is why his trust and his leadership and his competency numbers are tanking. >> laura: i worked in the old executive office building back in the day. it's a cool building, you don't need to build a set, it already is a set. it's so beautiful. what are they doing? how about just have an agenda that grows the economy and leaves the rest of us alone and leaves the site making to hollywood? biden the only one engaging raymond with in these theatrical displays. >> marked the sad news that more people die from covid this year with the vaccines and all of 2020. a new anthony fauci documentary was unveiled at the c+ today. like cher or bono, it's just how cheap. it's secular liturgy celebrating the man who's been saving us from epidemics for almost 40 years. it's a little like that other disney series "what if" that imagines is characters in other universes. this should have been called, what if dr. fauci had gotten covid right? >> i'm the bad guy to an entire subset of people because i represent something that's uncomfortable to them, it's called the truth. my weapon in addition to the science of speaking to the american public. >> so his weapon is speaking to the american people, he hasn't stopped talking since this covid thing began. frankly a documentary on the secret life of warts would have been as interesting as this documentary is. it is something to behold. b1 raymond is there an interview he hasn't done? i saw him on farm tools weekly last week. that was amazing. >> can you imagine a documentary celebrating any other bureaucrat, like the head of the u.s. postal service? he delivers life-saving medicines and checks, and i need to tell you this breaking news. you appear in this documentary as a supporting character. you are the hydroxychloroquine. >> laura: my next guest says doctors are already using this treatment in the united states successfully. >> for me, i'm actually convinced this is what saved my life. >> laura, your reaction. >> no evidence at all. i guess he is not aware of the guy who is the son of the man who used to work with, dr. stephen smith. research on thousands of europeans and hydroxychloroquine, or ivermectin. nothing that is not costing a lot of money is anything that dr. anthony fauci wants to talk about. i'm glad the hydroxychloroquine queen made the appearance. >> she did. it is amazing the way it labors to humanize him. at one point he cries while he is giving his own speeches. they really go to great lengths. the question is, why? why this attempt to humanize and aggrandize a man like anthony fauci who has been so wrong, basking kids is natural immunity. >> laura: we've got to go. i think people have tuned him out. no one is even listening to him. everyone is just going on with their lives at this point. >> laura: it get me my crown and i will appear. the u.s. military brought charges against lieutenant colonel stuart scheller. his attorney joins us in a moment to detail those charges and the upcoming defense. stay tuned. this is... ♪♪ this is iowa. we just haven't been properly introduced. say hello to the place where rolling hills meets low bills. where our fields, inside and out, are always growing. and where the fun is just getting started. this is iowa. so, when are you coming to see us? ♪♪ >> laura: and viral video postings lieutenant colonel scheller demanded that our military leaders be held accountable for the disastrous and deadly withdrawal from afghanistan. stuart scheller was stripped of his command and imprisoned and today's been charged on six counts under the uniform code of military justice. those charges have been referred to a special court-martial. his attorney tony busby joins me now. tony, are there -- are these charges a surprise, the ones that were actually filed against your client? >> no surprise here. these are the charges that we expected. one thing we need to remember, laying aside the fact that this it braved marine spoke out about something we all agree was completely botched, instead one of those things that a lot of us wanted to say and were feeling, these charges in order to prevail with these charges, the government would have to prove that the lieutenant colonel's conduct was prejudicial to the good order and discipline of the united states marine corps. they can't ever prove that because most marines and most service members whether they are serving now or have served before were very happy to hear what he had to say because we are all looking for accountability. when you have the general, that is the top brass and the people who supposedly planned this withdrawal who were testifying in front of congress saying this was an operational success, and yet you have 13 young service members, young people and 20's, most of them were 20s years in 20 years old, they lost their lives and the families lost them and that's not an operational success, that's a failure. the colonel stood up and said so. i was a marine, just like lieutenant colonel. one of the things they teach you as a marine officer is the importance of courage, not only physical courage but also moral courage. lieutenant colonel scheller showed moral courage by saying what many of us wanted to say which it is that somebody has to be a accountable and so far, only colonel scheller has been held accountable. >> laura: a spokesman for the marine corps gave only a vague justification for lieutenant colonel scheller's pretrial confinement. saying only that a marine may be awarded to pretrial confinement when probable cause indicates confinement might be required of the circumstances. are they claiming is a flight risk? >> they are claiming that this man with three children and married is a flight risk. here's a man who spent 17 years of his life, multiple deployments as an infantry officer who has taught young marines and every command he's been to whether it be senior officers or his colleagues and peers or his subordinates have always rated him as top-notch, who had the guts to say what he said. and he didn't shirk, he said i meant exactly what i said, and i would say it again. instead what they did was put him in the brig. i guy like lieutenant colonel scheller, putting him in a jail cell, and air-conditioned jail cell, he seen a lot worse. you're not going to change his mind, and you will not change the mind of the service members who agree with him and the american public who will come to his defense. somebody needs to be held accountable. somebody needs to take responsibility for this. >> laura: tony, does your client believe the defense department announcement for they will be watching social media accounts and surveilling them of all pentagon staff, where they will eliminate more traditionally minded members of the military from the current ranks? >> is certainly punitive and silly on its face and unconstitutional. that's not the kind of country we live in or the kind of country that service members fought for. >> laura: high gas prices? you bet they are. we have an update and an important announcement when we come back. there's software. and then there's industrial grade software, forged from decades of industrial experience and insights. meet honeywell forge. analytical software that connects assets and people to deliver a cybersecure record of your entire operation. so that everyone, in your boardroom and beyond, speaks the same language. honeywell forge. industrial grade software. 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