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to court. he asked mayorkas directly to defend the administration's response to the border crisis. >> 11 million people in this country without lawful presence is a compelling reason why there is unanimity about the fact that our immigration system is broken and legislative reform is needed. >> why don't you stop them from coming into the country? >> we did. >> why didn't you build, forgive me, a wall or a fence to stop them from walking and this flood of people coming across the damn? >> it is the policy of this administration we don't agree with the building of the wall. >> harris: pause for a second. that 11 million number was before biden took office. they've alreadylet in more than 1.5 million. on top of that that's how many people who are not yet processed to be here legally. kevin mccarthy says that the white house has fumbled all of this from the beginning. >> the world knows the place to come into america is just to travel to mexico and walk directly across the border. the most scary part about this is the democrats ignore the problems they ignite. more than 1.2 million people have been apprehended coming across this border this year and breaking all records for the last 20 years. this has got to stop. it's the way the administration handles every crisis, they ignore it. >> harris: in a moment the vice president of the national border patrol council is in "focus." first peter doocy live at the white house. the president feeling some pressure from different angles today. >> yes, harris, in just a couple of days officials here have gone from saying we don't know how many haitian migrants have been released into the country to it's more than 10,000. don't know exactly how many. it sounds like a lot but not to texas lawmakers. >> out of that around 17,000 migrants that were under the bridge they are ultimately in del rio, 2,000 of those got sent back to haiti. that should be the surprise. this is the first time that the administration was deporting anyone back to country of origin. so more of that needs to happen. as long as folks are coming in and getting leased and given court days years on end this will continue to spiral. >> there are a million and a half immigration cases back logged. 2 1/2 years for a case to be heard and an unknown percentage get to stay forever. officials are defending something else that is in conflict with policy elsewhere in the government that people arriving in the united states from other countries must test negative for covid first. >> we concurred with those recommendation and made improvements. that is also nothing new. that is exactly why we have an independent review of our operations to see where we can make improvements, where we can strengthen our processes and that is exactly what we did here. >> officials here continue to claim that all of these issues are proof that the immigration system must be reformed with new legislation. but joe biden has been president for more than eight months. that whole entire time he has had control of both houses of congress and yet the immigration system still has not been overhauled. >> harris: how complicated it must be to have a majority. chris wallace pressing secretary mayorkas about the investigation into the photos that many democrats are claiming depict border agents on horseback whipping migrants. we know that's not true. this despite the photographer even who took the pictures who says that's not true. >> the facts that are determined will drive the outcome. nothing less and nothing more. what those images suggest, what they appeared to portray was horrifying and that i think deserves attention. >> can the border patrol count on you and president biden who said the people will pay to come to a determination based on the facts and not based on twitter outrage? >> they sure can. >> harris: he went on to profess love for the border patrol and the anchor there jake tapper said you should tell the president. he should. last week president biden called the photographs outrageous and said quote, unquote, those people will play consequences he threatened them with. tulsi gabbard said the president has already decided the outcome. >> he needs to apologize to the american people for saying what he said. what he essentially did was act as judge, jury and executioner for these border patrol agents on horse back. how can they expect to have any kind of fair outcome to an investigation when the president of the united states has already declared their guilt and that they will be punished? >> harris: let's begin on this with art del cueto in focus now. vice president of the national border patrol council. you and i often come together when times are tough and they are tough now. with the men and women of the border patrol, the group you help lead, under a consequences warning from the president of the united states. >> you know, that's ridiculous. this job is hard enough as it is. i was talking to a co-worker earlier this morning and she said it best. under president obama, things were difficult but we pushed through. under this administration it's disastrous. agents are unable to do their job because of fear of people persecuting them and attacking them for actually doing their job. what these horse patrol agents did was within policy. they did nothing wrong. they did not abuse anyone. but here you have the president of the united states, the man with the biggest microphone in this country, condemning them without knowing the actual facts. here we have mayorkas that has also spoken bad about them. he tried to back pedal a little bit but it was a little bit too late. and he has access to the actual training manuals. he has access to the agency heads so he can ask direct and specific questions of what is going on. but what can we expect when they are releasing so many individuals pretty much with an nta with hopes and dreams that they show up to their next court date? you mentioned the 12,000 haitians. that's just a small number compared to nearly 1 million that have been released under the administration from january until now. and those 1 million, none have been checked for any kind of viruss. >> harris: i want to unpack that. >> i'm all over the place today. >> harris: that's the lane i want to drive hard in. that number i hadn't heard. it is 1.5 million since the president got into office and allowed to come into the country and have a fantasy that they will show up for court dates. the percentage for people who don't, oh, yeah, it's actually above 60%. on average it takes 891 days to complete an immigration case. even if they do get to court it is almost 2 1/2 years for them to get through that process. but the number that you threw out, art, was one million who have been let into the country. are we not sending anybody back at this point? there have been a few thousand of haitian migrants. they just got here and they are part of what's been flowing that had really difficult optics for this white house. but why weren't the optics as bad when they were dropping babies over the wall, mom trying to get them into this country drops a little one and our border patrol agents are there for that rescue? >> the optics weren't there because they couldn't make the border patrol agents the bad guys. right now they are trying to make the agents out there putting their lives on the line as the bad guys and that number comes from over 600,000 that were -- that came in through the process and were released but you have to remember over 300,000 gotaways. obviously that's a made-up number what they think it is. the gotaway numbers they can't even detect. you have to put those in there and that's why the number is so hard. >> harris: we'll focus now. thank you for helping me with the numbers there. i want to focus on homeland security secretary mayorkas who saw those agents on horse back a few days before the controversy broke. i'm a little confused about he knows the manual, he knows the standard operating procedure but not a problem until the president didn't like it. he responded to governor abbott who said the administration is failing to secure the border. >> they have created a magnet that led to these massive groups of haitians as well of other groups coming here for one reason, because they have sent a message and a signal to the entire world that they are not going to secure the border. >> this is nothing new. we've seen this type of irregular migration many, many times throughout the years. >> harris: art. >> the migrant protection program that was established under president trump was something that not only deterred these individuals from the false claim but it also helped fast track the people that were coming in. what this has done it has bogged the system, you have hundreds upon hundreds of thousands that have come in and like you said, they will wait two or three years before their court cases are even heard and that's even if they show up for court. that's a serious problem. >> harris: real quickly you mentioned covid. do we have any idea how many people percentage-wise are being tested for covid out of that million that you say are perhaps in our cities and counties around the country? >> the only way they are even remotely tested is if they show any symptoms. i will add. when you are releasing a million into this country without any vaccines but you are enforcing vaccines on the men and women that protect our nation's borders, that is a pretty hard pill to swallow with these individuals. >> harris: put your mind around that for a quick second. if they don't want to be noticed because they don't want to go to a court date they aren't going to represent themselves as having symptoms right off the bat. until it is probably more dire and we hate that for them and anybody that might catch spread that way. wow, always great to have you in "focus." thank you. facebook making a major announcement as a top executive is now pushing back against claims its instagram app is harmful to teenage girls. facebook now says it is mostly the opposite. and this. >> from the private sector if you are involved in a ponse scheme you go to prison. that's what the democrats do. >> harris: price tag truth. the hidden cost buried in the democrats' massive spending plan. divisions within that party are threatening to derail president biden's signature agenda. we'll jump into that and more when tammy bruce is in focus next. i would like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans. one of the benefits that our country gives us as veterans is the powerful va home loan benefit. it lets us refinance 100% of our home's value, not just 80% like other loans. that's a big difference. and it can mean a lot more money for you and your family. and this is the best time in history use it because home values are now at record highs while mortgage rates are near record lows. the newday 100 va cash out loan lets you 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other's views. this isn't about moderates versus progressives. >> harris: fair share from the billionaires speaker nancy pelosi pushing party unity on president biden's massive spending plan. there are big divisions now over the price tag as well as the bill's priorities. should know about we've found buried in the bill. for instance, $3 billion for tree planting and so-called tree equity. important that the trees feel equal to one another. $4 billion for distance learning for schools. that seems like an interesting number because we had so many kids who couldn't virtually learn. i don't know if it should be on par with the trees. $12 billion for electric cars for the federal government and postal service. $15 billion set aside for older people with sexual or gender identity issues. congressman kevin brady summing up republicans' criticism of the plan. >> i've never seen washington spend so much to kill so many american jobs to raise prices even higher and expand the welfare state. the greatest expansion in our lifetime. >> harris: edward lawrence has more from the white house on the true costs, the facts of this bill from the democrats. >> president joe biden's legacy could be on the line here. he touted massive government spending here. the center for community for responsible budget says the true cost of the social infrastructure bill moved to the floor could be $5.5 trillion because of the phase-outs and other gimmicks hiding the overall costs. kevin mccarthy very upset. >> interesting speaker pelosi didn't want to talk about the numbers to say it's paid for. it is paid for by putting a debt onto the next generation of americans. that's how it's paid for. >> mccarthy says it could be more spending than we did for the total of world war ii if it passes. take the child tax credit for example. going up to $3600 a year. as much as all the income tax increases that were passed in the ways and means committee the program ends in 2025. if it's renewed the unfunded costs will be much more. for medicaid and medicare expansion delaying the phase inof gent all to 2028. free community college, the federal government pays 100% of an average state tuition in fees in 2023 but only 80% by 2027 leaving states to shoulder a growing cost. few more shifts to state as the phase-out states come. democrats are concerned feeling the pressure from progressives. listen. >> i don't want to go alone. i would like to have bipartisanship. if we can't, then we have to do something. this is not one of those circumstances where you do something even if it's wrong. we will do the right thing because of the great opportunities before us. >> president biden has been very engaged and had meetings and phone calls in order to try to get this across the finish line and keep the democrats together. >> harris: thank you very much. house republicans campaign arm is using president biden's spending spree in ads targeting vulnerable democrats such as iowa's cindy. prices going up. paychecks down. now they will make things worse with the biggest tax hike in decades crushing small businesses and hurting middle class families. >> harris: tammy bruce and i both like that music. fox news contributor and host of get tammy bruce on fox nation. we got you. your initial thoughts on the spending bill that we've learned about. you pulled back the pages and we're reading. it. i don't know what they do on capitol hill. >> it's funny, this will save or destroy biden's legacy. it will definitely continue the legacy. his legacy is one of catastrophe and failure. and if presenting something that makes no sense is outrageous whether on the international front when it comes to military, war, economy. we talk about tax increases as well. they see the inflation. they see that the people who are affected by the cost of food, by gasoline are people who then will begin to commute back and forth to work as we open offices. this hits the middle class especially and the lower middle class. >> harris: that's a good point. >> the money that is going out when you look at the gas prices going from $2 a gallon to $6 in some areas is shocking. whether you can afford to do that. you have to choose between the dinner table or gasoline. i remember that as a kid during the carter years. it is shocking and debilitating. so when we look at this i'm also amused at nancy pelosi the queen of you have to vote for the bill before you know what's in it that there is such a lack of connection between the long-term impact of this and what this money means. the numbers are so large it becomes like water that it is just turn the faucet on because they know -- >> harris: it is to them. and it is not the billion speaker of the house nancy pelosi. remember the pandemic pictures of her eating that really expensive but delicious ice cream out of the freezer while that was her idea of lockdown. that kind of rolls into this not to make so much about this but perspective. >> when you are looking at dianne feinstein recently sold her lake tahoe home for $41 million. mitt romney sold his home -- lake tahoe vacation home. mitt romney selling his home in sern california for 30 million. nancy pelosi one of the richest women in congress if not the country because of business and her husband's work. so you are looking at a disconnect between what real life is between us, the normals, and these individuals who are looking at this is an opportunity to move our agenda forward, our philosophy of massive government and throwing money at things that only cause more problems. >> harris: and i really appreciate what you did there. it is not about capitalism but perspective and putting the bill at the feet of people paying something she wouldn't have to feel even if she had to pay it. while the speaker is trying to manage expectations senator cory booker of new jersey on sunday promised to push for big measures in the reconciliation bill. >> we do a 3 trillion bill i'll push for big and bold, an historic investment in america. >> harris: it is like water. pour more water on it and in the meanwhile it's our tax dollars as american citizens. >> they saw us accept the spending at the beginning of covid. they've been conditioned now. this is what we need to do and they are willing to accept it. so once you unlock that door, if now if the republicans stand up again for the american people, there is no benefit. there is no helpfulness in bankrupting the country or american families. it is like handing your checkbook to a 12-year-old. it is not about the numbers nancy pelosi said, it is about value. there is a value to taking the entire family to hawaii for 17 months. that would be fabulous and you can't afford that, either. there is a value to having a hummer in the driveway if you need one but that's value, what if you can't afford to drive it? this is about the numbers. it's what all our families look at. what you look at when you go home and think about what the budget is. we must have one. these individuals don't because they think we are an unending stream of blood money at this point. >> harris: something you said was so key. this is really about accountability. who will make enough noise to get attention right now? by the way with all respect to all the 12-year-old as out there some can do math. i have one. good forsee you, tammy bruce. on our way to the commercial break we need to make something of a correction of what you saw on screen moments ago. an error in one of our graphics. the amount in the spending bill set aside for older americans with sexual and gender identity issues is $15 million, not $15 billion. apologies for that. it was in the graphic. and wanted to make that very clear. the search for brian laundrie intensifies as new information emerges on the police stop of laundrie and gabby petito in utah last month and there's this. >> folks left the table were the democrats let's be clear. we have stayed at the table. we want the best wearing the badge. >> harris: the democrats have left the table. south carolina senator tim scott accusing democrats of abandoning police reform talks as new data from the f.b.i. show america's surging crime rate last year. wait until you see the murder numbers. it is heartbreaking. jason rantz in focus. he says those numbers show something else. mm. 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senator scott is 100% correct. you are making these communities more unsafe. no one is saying anything on the democratic side about it because we ceded all the power, control and influence to a small group of lunatics who want to abolish police department. >> harris: people say this are important to them. it worsens the crime problem in states instituting vaccine mandates for law enforcement. imagine being a cop in the middle of this. the state police union in massachusetts said to date dozens of troopers have submitted their resignations paperwork. many of these troopers are going to be returning to their previous municipal police departments within the state that allow for regular testing and masks. your thoughts. >> obviously depends on what state we are talking about here. across the country we're seeing similar moves. in washington state, the washington state troopers have to get a vaccine or they lose their jobs. they will be fired. so some folks have put in religious accommodation requests and every single one has been denied. they claim that these troopers can't do the job safely without a vaccine despite for the last 18 months doing the job without a vaccine. at the seattle police department we have 200 officers under the exact same mandate and they could lose their jobs if they are not accommodated. we have already been seeing a max exodus of cops across the country. they go away from the big cities because of the policies and that could worsen as a result of this. >> harris: and then you look at the rise in crime and if you want them to walk the beat. it's such a collision point to me. it will be interesting to see how it goes moving forward. their jobs are already so complicated enough, police officers. jason rantz, thank you. newly released emails talking about hunter biden's art career. the "new york post" saying his work has always been about selling influence off the family name and this. >> it's really difficult to put people in a situation where you are going to lose your job, your livelihood and career if you don't do this. >> harris: we went from cops and the vaccine mandates in some cities. let's segue to teachers and healthcare workers going after new york covid vaccine mandates. today's looming deadline leaving the state to prepare for major hospital staff shortages. two and a quarter percent. just 2.48 apr. one call can save you thousands every year. and it's easy. there's no money out of pocket and no upfront fees. and while some banks are raising their rates, newday is holding the line for veterans. lock in your rate. i brought in ensure max protein, with thirty grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! 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what concerns me in new york they will bring in new graduates from college or they will bring in foreign workers. both don't have as much experience or expertise as current workers in the hospital. those who have to use hospital facilities are going to have less quality of care because the training of the doctors and nurses isn't at the same par of those kicked out of the hospital? >> harris: it is a complicated issue. you have a tremendous amount of people in the facilities that are covid positive and no denying if you are alound them their viral load will make you sick. hospitals are already protecting their healthcare workers. is it enough? what are your thoughts on it. >> it is obviously not enough. over 600,000 americans have already died and we're still talking about people who are refusing to get vaccinated. i believe that the mandates are proper and because 89 percenters of people being vaccinated is a high number. i agree. what about the other percentage of people who aren't? the question is if these are the same people who are caring for people who are coming in with the delta variant and coming in with covid-19 having to be on ventilators why won't they get vaccinated themselves to help save even future lives? >> harris: let me step in there. i have talked with nurses and doctors and done 11 pandemic specials for the network here. no one is considering this. i do think it's an important point. nurses and doctors some have told me that there is immunity that happens when you get covid-19 and it may not last as long as we would want, some say between 3 to 6 months. so that's not even as long as potentially the vaccine but they say in that environment they go to places all over the world visiting as medical professionals and get exposed to everything and they for some of them choose to have their immune systems fight this off over and over and over because they are hoping immunity actually grows within that population. it's an argument that i had not heard. it is one they say is based on science. and i think it needs to be in the conversation because immunity is worth knowing about and these are the professionals as you say, sean. what do they know that we don't know? >> and harris what i've heard when i've talked to health professionals with nurses a lot of them are younger women and they are concerned about their families and having babies and you might say that's appropriate or not but they don't want to get the vaccine because they want to have kids. to crystal's point she might want the vaccine and think it's great. we also believe in america people should be able to make those choices for themselves. if crystal you are vaccinated you are safe. let someone else make the choice for themselves whether or not they want to get vaccinated. it is called freedom. >> harris: a quick response. >> that doesn't hold up talking about students going back to schools who are being exposed to unvaccinated administrators and unvaccinated teachers. so i agree that this is a country where you have the freedom to choose but the most vulnerable populations are children and they are -- many children are going into the hospital and some are dying because either their parents or friends or administrators or teachers >> you are saying the vaccine doesn't work. that's the problem. >> harris: what we're seeing among some of our younger ones. i know because i'm a mom and watching the situation among other parents as well and sean, you have nine children, so you know what you are talking about. but what we're seeing, crystal, is that those teachers who are vaccinated are actually getting some breakthroughs from the little ones because they are too young to be vaccinated and may carry it and never carry a symptom. we pray that's the case, right, that they don't feel this and there are no long term effects. they may not know they have it. so being around them unvaccinated in that environment might be a oh compelling reason for a teacher to want to get a shot. but to say it is going in the other direction we haven't seen the science yet on that. sean. >> i think you're right. we haven't seen the science and by the way, harris, we spend trillions of dollars why not do the studies on the treatments and about how many breakthrough cases do we have for those vaccinated but breakthrough cases for those who had covid and are they getting reinfected again? we don't have that data. the government is not doing the studies. >> harris: we don't know they're not telling us. you came from the hill and you know how this works. we don't know yet. >> this is not the hill but this is the cdc and fda not doing their work. >> harris: we will go into this again. 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