exceed, pete hegseth. now, the youngest issuing the federal arrest warrant for laundrie. laundrie was last seen ten days ago, and was -- with each passing hour, experts say she could be anywhere. carly, you have just come back from that your gift doing extensive reporting. so please tell us all of your takeaways and we are excited to hear your analysis. >> getting out component on tax evasion, the fbi has issued the arrest warrant for brian laundrie for something else entirely. it is beau book debit card fraud. the question is, was it gabby petito's debit card that he was using? and if you did kill him -- her, that is another disgusting shepherd in this story. the other question is, where the heck is he? i mean, is he still in this 25,000 acres carlton reserve? if you talk to survivalists and wildlife experts, i was talking to a survivalist about it this morning. they described as every it like it is jumanji. so candy 23-year-old survived for over a week and those types of conditions, especially when the last time he was seen he was a leap wearing a smoke fanny pack? so in this he pre-planned this, which i guess is possible, and, you know, buildup supplies summer and has been hiding those supplies, can he really survive in this swamp like area? the other thing i want to focus on is that moab police department because there has been a lot of criticism on how the moab police department handled that domestic dispute called. and some people have suggested that the police should have known that she was acting like an abuse victim and they should have intervened and arrested brian laundrie. i think that that is misplaced criticism when you watch the over an hour long body camera footage but you can really see to police there went above and beyond. a talked to gabby multiple time. they talked to brian multiple times. and they all had the similar story that she was the one who struck brian. so the cliffsnotes crystal ball and policing. and i do think that that was solid police work. despite the fact that i'm sure those responding officers are heartbroken right now over the outcome of this situation. >> harris: and pete, many have expressed to carli's point, shock and horror because they did have interactions with his couples all over the country and all of them were in that moment to talk in their gut, something was not right. like gabbie coming back into a restaurant to apologize for. boyfriend's behavior. we are also getting reports from all over the country of sightings of him. what do you make of it all, pete? >> pete: well, it is not the police officers who are to blame here. it is brian laundrie and let's go with the premise that he does because the body was found in the homicide and he is the person of interest and now he has a fully charged and he is the one they are looking at and he is the one they did it. he got home on september 1st. september 1st to 24 days ago. she was not even reported missing until 11 days later than parents say they last saw him on the 14th. so if he did it and he knew he did it, and he knew eventually that would come out because that is a lot of time to plan. to make josh determine where you are going to go because he becomes a person of interest because she is missing. he is last thing on the 14th but what do the parents no? why aren't they willing to say anything? apparently when he came back, he went on a camping trip? who goes on a month-long camping trip and then goes home with their parents and go camping? there's a lot of things that don't add up and he is headed for the eighth border somewhere. he can't be extradited for the desperately. we don't know. but it is the parents that could give depth closest clues. what did he do in those ten days? and he may not be hiding in that swamp. >> emily: and pete touches on that responsibility the parents might hold for so much of what, we are going out which is him being gone, mit, and so much more spreading his wealth dust and everything that is going on. those parents have so much to answer for. >> emily: let's take a look at this. this is not so much their child but three adults working on a situation. because i do think that we are now far afield from concerned parents. we still have yet to see that. so i'm going to just move on because unless they'd like to stop us from assuming that they don't care that they need to change their electrical parts so right now, what we know is that they took some actions that did not seem in concert with common sense and reality. for instance, if your student to be daughter-in-law, fiancé, boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever it was that they were serious enough to let this young woman living in their house with their son. everyone of the people -- not come back, where's the pressure from those parents? or dent -- it become three adults working to solve the situation that he may be includes we don't know. danny who was the former deputy director of the fbi was just on with me a few minutes ago and he said he doubts very seriously that he isn't that reserve reserve. of he along the coast and that if it were him, he would be in a wooded area. where you could survive easier. he did not have, you know, potentially dangerous situations with alligators and swamp creature's edges by that, i mean those insects that literally pieced on you while you are out there coming out of the water. he is describing a better situation, other places to hide. what about this jungle that we live in here, new york? try getting lost in their. really easy to do. there are plenty of other places that people could be. i have heard others say, if he is alive, he is probably not there. we will see what happens. but the door that gets open on the parents is more about what they have not done, but they have not send and what that really looks like in their investigation. are they now looking for evidence something that may have played eight wrobleski's are questions that come into play now. >> and the camper at the cart remained in their driveway and they are able to multiple content go grocery shopping. we have reported that brian is well-versed in surviving in this as we know with any missing person, every-minute counts. that is why it is so imperative to report to authorities an instant that you know someone is missing because they can does this to be the difference between life and death. we know that the difference was not made for gabby. for brian, it still remains to be seen. >> this is someone who doesn't know how to survive. i survived for 6 days on crackers in the wild. only crackers. this is someone who knows what he is doing. this is someone who put on an instagram post. beautiful park. unfortunate infestation of human beings. this is someone who likes being in the wildcat likes being alone, could he be in that carlton reserve? we know that carlton reserve has wildlife cameras. we know it is being scavenged in with article ways by law enforcement. there's another option. there's another option that maybe he escaped somewhere. we have seen reporting that has been looked into by the fbi. we have one image popping up of a dear camera, there was a spot earlier in the week. in the footage turns out that derek kevra in fact was just a hiker. it was not brian laundrie. but this is an example of tips that started to come into the left behind at at quick -- fbi. and a canadian woman spotted what she thought to be brian laundrie. she said her heart dropped because -- but the fbi is looking at the plate is probably hundreds all across the country and the world. so we will see. >> can i just say when working on the -- i think that -- i sort of rejected the notion that out that brian laundrie is, like, some great survive this paper. we don't know that but he is a 23-year-old kid who is 160 pounds but he is not a navy seal. so i think that sometimes, you know, when we talk about these things and there is -- circle is different, said he frightened -- brag about being on the appalachian trail for 3 months and then your mind goes wild. is it a sort of a movie -type thing where he is, you know, hiding during the day and moving cover of darkness. i don't notice -- i don't know this kid. but you can't assume that he has those sort of skills. self -- and i also say because i feel like he might like that, he might like that everybody saying that he could survived in these types of situations. and i just want to project into the fact that he may not either. >> that is a good point. we don't know. he could have been, you know -- we have no idea. and even though i'm more than twice his age but this is an adult making decisions as an adult and have adults around him. >> to carley's point, i could have survived on crackers alone for 60s. president biden says he is taking responsibility for the border crisis. but he is issuing a warning for border patrol agents. how the president is singly passing the buck as the prices there at the border persons. veteran homeowners. the newday two and a quarter refi is the lowest rate in their history. two and a quarter percent. just 2.48 apr. newday's holding the line on rates so veterans can save thousands. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get started today. whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. we did it again. verizon has been named america's most reliable network by rootmetrics. and our customers rated us #1 for network quality in america according to j.d. power. number one in reliability, 16 times in a row. most awarded for network quality, 27 times in a row. proving once again that nobody builds networks like verizon. that's why we're building 5g right, that's why there's only one best network. people were afraid i was contagious. i felt gross. it was kind of a shock after i started cosentyx. four years clear. real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections —some serious— and the lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms, or if you've had a vaccine or plan to. tell your doctor if your crohn's disease symptoms develop or worsen. serious allergic reactions may occur. learn more at cosentyx.com. liberty mutual customizes car insurance so you only pay for what you need. how much money can liberty mutual save you? 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[indistinct] >> always dodging those questions. film illusion has reported just before he came to the areas that that's photographer who took that picture, the infamous picture of the border patrol agents in deauville says he and his colleagues never saw agents whipping anyone in the photos are being misconstrued. not only by president biden who is lying about this, moments ago, his own vice president couple down on the live. -- doubled down on the lie. >> vice president harris: i have been clear about the images that use all of those law-enforcement officials on horses. i was outraged by it. it was horrible. and deeply troubling. of there's been no an investigation that is being conducted, which i fully support. and there needs to be consequences and accountability. human beings should not be treated that way, and as we all know, it also evoke images of some of the worst moments of their history. where that kind of behavior has been used against the indigenous people of our country has been used against african-americans during times of his -- slavery. >> look. just to go back to the present for a second. the evidence -- not show the physical evidence -- the photographer has come forward. it is not shildt what president biden and vice president kamala harris say happen. putting law enforcement and border patrol on horses. you have heard that from both sides of the aisle and i don't know if you copy from leslie marshall. just previously, a democrat on my show, she went into quick detail about this. about how that is how they handled, and mind enforcement all over the country handle things. the president does that judge, jury, and he is not willing to believe any other scenario other than the fantasy or narrative that he has been his head so far. evidence comes forth that something untoward happened, i'm sure someone will rush to get. but now, the only thing they are rushing to his judgment. that is humble because the very same people you have called on to keep us safe when policies were driving our safety into the ground at that border coat they are doing their job might antedate right now. and a healthy think it would be wonderful. and by the way, why didn't secretary of the dhs say anything when he saw those same men and women on horseback this week when he went to the border? on all shades of confused how kamala harris at the president of the united states want to point typically situation where the facts don't -- now, is it a terrible image? clearly people are upset about it. so when the president says consequences, i am sure it starts with himself. if you want more people on the ground, you will need more people on the ground. you need more people at the border. let's see if the president can rectify has been broken under his administration for the last eight and a half months. >> absolutely. and fox's reporters inc. that they have been using horses for 117 years. his reporting shows that they have been scapegoated. they can't defend themselves. instead they are being thrown under the bus and they say twirling is the technique used often. it is to keep someone else in a -- an illegal migrant from grabbing a hornets. but hey, don't listen to the facts. listen to maxine waters and her vision. >> what do hell -- one of the hell are we doing here? this takes us back hundreds of years. this is worse than what we witnessed in calabria. >> emily? >> i can't speak to messy water pump -- maxine waters' emotional reaction. so what you alluded to, erica mounted guard patrolled the border on horseback beginning in 1904. in fact, this -- these horses were more important to united states than uniforms because we ensured that our guard at that time had horses over uniforms which came over 30 years later. so the concepts that this is somehow new because it is a value for the reason that horses are used in addition to being able to traverse up to 50 miles a day is that they can traverse terrain that is -- that vehicles. when people say, just use atvs, especially there in texas, which the president would know if he eventually went down to the ducks border captives, a variety of cane that grows there that makes it in accessible to anything but horseback. so -- >> as easy to kind in. >> exactly. and in terms of -- keep in mind, guys did that insulting or hurting an animal associated with law enforcement that is a family. so, why would we have been protected as a felony and yet not enabled border patrol or law enforcement to use techniques to have people stand back from the animal that is an extension of law enforcement that in that military we also, does nick as officers. for these guys to invoke laboring in these horrible -- slavery in these horrible, atrocious images instead of looking at the facts. and border patrol is using no horses whatsoever. >> eps, texas dps is now patrolling the border. the state patrol is now responsible. >> we are going to need more people. when things actually do equal the horrors of slavery, we should call them alpine and 20 don't connecting waters and anyone else who is doing that, is not that they were not bad images and for the people experience and gets, horrifying that you can talk with them about it. but it is not like sleepy. and we cannot say that things aren't like things went they are not because was, everything is slavery protected has no meaning the expected it is something worse -- if something resident slavery pepin, happened under biden's watch. but look to regardless of what melissa said and biden says that we know that is not true. looking to the facts. but banning horses, bread. that is what the biden administration is doing. there was a simple question. you can give me the answer. what is the best way to stop illegal immigration? build a wall and banned horses. >> because isn't -- it is not about stopping illegal immigration. this is the distraction that they couldn't find. the question to joe biden was not about horses and whipping which has been completely debunked. it is fake news. the question was about the disaster at the border and because of these images, which of the photographer even says it don't represent reality, joe biden, com like harris, and maxine waters this track await don't look at biden go. don't look under the bridge in del rio, texas. don't look at the disaster we created. look at this one guy on a horse using his reins around. it has been totally misconstrued. and i'm so glad you said what you said. a quick maxine waters cup to say worse than slavery, what an insult to any -- who is actually equipped by a sleep master. that is -- it is such egregious rhetoric. i don't know how to respond to it. they are using the horse think of the. they want more illegal immigration. >> they do with. and a lot of questions when they take to the podium at 2:30. he said he saw nothing inappropriate. and now all of a sudden, facts are out the window. where are the fact checkers? we showed you the vice president on the 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when chris cuomo picked his hand on her backside and squeezed and in front of her husband. she included a copy of an e-mail from chris cuomo with the subject line, now that i think of it, i am ashamed. it goes on to read, though my hearty greeting was a function of being glad to see you, christian slater got arrested for a kind of similar act, though born of alleged negative intent. you like my own. and as a husband, i can empathize. with not looking to see my wife patted as such. so pass along my apology to your good noble husband and i apologize for the u.s. will for even putting you in such position. next time, i will remember the lessons no matter how happy i am to see you. for part of my book so so glad to see you. i got to grab your booty. chris cuomo. >> there you go. yes. we will see -- >> it is are going to hear and then opera to say could imagine her expensing, the expected but we will find out honestly is -- does the apology standards suffice? that is what his defense is going to be. i apologize for it is therefore, i should be given another chance. that is the standard by which he would want to be judged when he is acknowledging the incident actually occurred which is of course never the standard by which anyone is judged and is the same guy who defended and advised his brother under multiple education. i do know the woman who wrote it, tv professional, says she does not want to be fired. she just thinks she should step up onto me too movement. and we will find out what the standard is pop up chris cuomo. of. >> it was an interesting read by shelley ross, carley. >> at the executive producer at a major network. and for chris cuomo to put his hands on her like that is so demoralizing. who do you think you are? and technical there will be the cuomo critics, say he should automatically get fired. the consenting supporters who say he deserves a pass. but he is going to have to very difficult time covering the next sexual harassment scandal. i don't know how you talk about that or condemned someone else wendy burch object cover up your own brother papa's indiscretions and then you find out he laid his hands on someone else in an inappropriate way as well. expected to get into the legal weed of this. when the first stories were breaking about andrew cuomo getting advice from his brother to toast the news anchor, chris cuomo, on sexual harassment -- sexual harassment, i immediately thought that this is a man with some cash, right? whatever the case was. center to have have clyburn and in his pocket. he could have asked anybody for advice. but he went to his younger brother who worked on tv, not about the objects of the case, but reportedly about how to defend himself against the sexual harassment claims. why go there? was that someone with some experience? i'm just asking questions. >> i think to question asks itself based on what we are hearing to depict i also think it is interesting to you know, his brother, for the bulk of what is is the one who keeps think that my brother, my brother, my brother on tv. he wants to personalize the governor. he wants to see him as "my brother" rather than as a neutrality that he should have. >> meant accused in a sex scandal? expected exactly. >> and in his apology e-mail, differentiating himself from the christian slater incident which was -- christian slater was charged with a crime. it was dropped. but that is the same thing. and finally kept the governor himself said that chris cuomo to protect even after the two movement dissolved after it was revealed that so many of these people were working to protect the sectoral predators -- sexual predators, that he himself worked to strengthen the laws in new york state so that unwanted touching, now, there is not a statute of limitations. and the scenario described by the attorney general and the governor himself before he designed in those resigned in disgrace that this act falls squarely and is completely unacceptable -- unacceptable work behavior. it does not matter. this is inexcusable. >> listening to everything that emily is laying out, i also wonder in this scenario, what cnn does. right? this was when he was working at abc with this woman, shelley ross. now what you do? because he already had some problems yet this investigation with his brother. >> i will give everyone patients. cnn will do nothing. the most that will happen is a strongly worded statement sq sock -- >> in the newsroom expected counseling his brother. yeah, those women in the newsroom should stand up. and she saw two standards. she saw that chris cuomo on air. he said, i sincerely care about these issues. and she knew the chris cuomo that grabbed her but. never forget about that. >> to close of the view testing positive for covid right in the middle of a live show. and they are forced to leave after by split in kamala harris takes the stage for a sitdown interview.rl how could it happen? what are the protocols? kaylee wants to know. we are 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building later in the show. harris may be does not get this. but vice president kamala harris is in the lineup secession. i do realize that she is vaccinated. but you earned the -- are in the line of succession. i reach out to the head of our operations today and he said to be, you're correct. the president and vice president, we would have wanted a negative test prior to meeting and greeting them just like all personnel on the plane. anyone going with them, at the pool would be tested. not moment before kamala harris walks onto that set. >> so she is in the building, too. and i have been conduct such as a guest. i don't know what the political stuff at the numbers in that audience, but they had a live audience of some sort. you got joey behar and sara haines and i'm not a doctor i just follow the protocols because we have them here, too. they are close contact. >> yeah. >> why are they still sitting there. they should not be sitting there either. you have to vice president coming into the building. we don't know who is being tested and how and all of that. but to your point, it was my understanding that if you're going to have a president or a vice president, you are you are not doing something that they are going to deliver the results like a mari publish show -- maury show. >> if you have a positive, we know that. but -- >> wouldn't you want -- >> oh, of it would. of course would. i get that magnitude of how difficult this is for the white house. it was difficult for the trump white house. i tested positive for covid. you can control your inner circle to an extent. i go out and have interactions. you are around the if the president. it is not perfect but no president trump ended up getting the covid. so this is arguably an argument to the system working that they caught this before the vice president was there. but it was working albeit a little bit late, i would say. >> the show had already started. but i think that a good thing happened in terms of messaging and there was also a missed opportunity here. the good thing is that joe behar said that they are going to be both okay because they had that vaccine and that is that write thing. you don't need to protect suplex native people to as the vice president had previously suggested. the missed opportunity i think is to interview it was supposed to take place in the studio. kamala harris is fully vaccinated. wouldn't it have been a great opportunity for her to prove that she believes the vaccines in that vaccines actually work by doing the interview still in the studio and sinker you know what? i know that two people tested positive in the studio. but i feel comfortable enough as most americans should by getting the vaccine and living a normal life as opposed to a shrink her off into another studio somewhere else in the building. >> applicants that is a good point, carley. i was in the white house when the president of united states tested positive with a different circumstance. it was a jarring moment for all of us. it was this eerie feeling to the west wing as present trip ultimately went to walter reed. we are in a different place given that vaccination. we know kamala harris has had one as well. >> yeah. i mean, it sort of proves to me back just like the border, everywhere kamala harris ghosts, chaos followed by. and here we see it again today prepared she is supposed to be charged with that which causes. yet she finds time to go to the view and even with two positive covid tests, it still find time to get in april and i guess they only had iphone earbuds available pickup work and push through with that softball interview. i think this is the prerogative and the priority. everyone is okay. everyone has been okay. if one is vaccinated up the wazoo, as joy behar said. >> it is my view. not to use that word viewed in this context that kamala harris does not care about results that she cares about future presidential ambitions. coming up kept delta air lines has had enough of 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behavior. and in an internal memo obtained by fox news, the company is asking other airlines to come together and creating national note like this to protect airline employees across the industry. faa says this week that airlines that reported more than 4,000 incidents of rowdy passengers this here with 73% of them involving people who refused to wear facemasks. not acceptable to hurt other people on a plate and to act that way can bring up our children. >> no, it is not. maybe the problem is that mask mandate itself. maybe you could treat people like adults. because there's masks on planes all the time. what is the difference? number two. we know rob o'neill is the man that shot martin. he is bent from delta because he took those banned from delta because he took a selfie without a map. the -- delta it is saying to guy who shot bin laden shouldn't fly. this is absurd. national databases of this kind what have -- what are people supposed to do then puts this is a mandate that long over lived its worst in my mind. >> you are talking about the semantics of that mandate and all of that and where we really are in the pandemic with more than 300 million people getting at least one shot. and it is out of a conversation that we need to be able to have company in a calm manner. and we need to stop judging each other. and the same time, there's got to be's a different lane for people who want to point or died on ate play. i do want to be tracked with someone who is angry about something i can't change on their have. like, that rides in a different lane for me and i'm not, with that. carley? >> i think that there should be some sort of deal between airlines and passengers. airlines on one side of the table and everybody else and the world on the other. and the deal should be, okay, passengers don't accept. but airlines, can you give us more legroom? can you maybe not make somebody up when they are sleeping to put their chair in the upright position? usually when you -- >> i like where this is going. >> that happened to me. >> you don't get treated like garbage but i think there is blame on both sides here. i think both parties are acting a little bit salty some transportation i think airlines need to shape up as well. >> of violence, though. >> i think it is interesting that the penalty for certain infections exceeds what we are seeing delta tried to do here. so filter, it is fine if you have eighth corporate policy. >> is that fun? is it fine for us not to spend their money on their airline if people don't feel comfortable with that. >> of course. and private corporation, thinking ban you unless it is based on a constitutionally protected class. but the point that delta is trying to get them banned from every other airlines at why would we condemn someone to the travel death penalty because wonderland had a problem with rob parker's example, if you took a selfie with a mask of and now they are trying to ban him? and there are other infections that are more atrocious that have a shorter lesser penalty. and instead put these guys are trying to implement such a draconian result. to be quick to the carley's point is a reflection of the time we are in. cancel culture, you are doomed for life if you do something that is not that big of a deal. notwithstanding the violence which is a big deal. >> i agree. no mandates. i also agree with carley. we should show more grace but i have seen the passenger who has been unruly. i'm sorry you are having to deal with this. i have seen flight attendants who take their jobs way too seriously. she is like, by the way, don't have a lollipop and have to put mask down the whole time. >> it all seems to change after they stop serving alcohol. i don't know why that is. i don't know if they did us a favor. we are going to moved on. morphed "outnumbered," just a moment. veteran homeowners, the two and quarter refi is the lowest rate in newday's history two and a quarter percent, just 2.48 apr. lock in this 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