executive privilege. one summed it up, who do you want on your side if mueller decides to subpoena the president? you want your wartime consignaturely airy. emmitt is a quintessential wartime consignaturely airy. look. here he was in an interview just this morning, his last interview about this change. >> it's certainly not off the table. and people are working hard to make decisions and work toward an interview. and assuming that can be concluded favorably, there will be an interview. >> trump loyalists are increasingly arguing the opposite. they are saying there isn't a way from donald trump's perspective, to meet mutualer in the interview room favorably. it's too much risk, too little reward. and that's why this whole fight could be headed right to the supreme court. i'm joined now by california congressman ted liu. he serves on the judicial

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