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we've got this. >> honor. you got this inside politics sunday with manu raju next on cnn on the attack. trump those red meat to the base the gate to. guard the vote. we need to stop the steel and consolidate support was a pep rally environment for president trump. >> while biden courts, seniors in race this is millions with hollywood stars pause final countdown everyone's going to watch just 11 days until cnn's debate. >> it's about the character of the person leading our country. the decisions and verdict hanging over it all and soccer tsunami so like having 104 super bowls and 39 days i washington is nervous inside politics. >> that's reporting from inside the corridors of power starts now good morning. welcome to is that politics sunday on his father? thursday morning. i'm on a roger. donald trump is tried to make inroads with a key part of joe biden's coalition, black voters in detroit in the state that very well could determine the next president. and that's where trump was yesterday, as he attacked president biden over the issue of crime in his appeal to black voters. but then he went before a far-right group in michigan i use the phrase stop the steal a january 6 rallying cry and reference to his 2022 overturned biden's victory. something that is at the heart of two separate criminal cases. he is now facing meanwhile, biden was at a star-studded affair with hollywood celebrities harb nodding, hob nabhan with george clooney, julia roberts, and barbra streisand as he along with brock obama, raised millions for our campaign that is struggling to break away from trump. and it's mired in a neck-and-neck race with polls showing him trailing the presumptive gop nominee in some key battleground states a lot to get to and we have a great team of reporters on the grid. bound together that has us covered even mechan down the ground in detroit and arlette saenz and los angeles. so let's start with you. i'll let you were in the room for biden's fundraiser last night. pick us inside the room. what happened? >> yeah, money will president biden teamed up with his former boss, president barack obama and hollywood star is to really issue some stark warnings about what a second trump presidency could hold. the president expressed extreme concern about the prospect that trump could potentially appoint two in court justices if the openings open up and he is reelected the president in this fundraiser said less than a quote, the idea that if he's reelected, he's going to appoint two more flying flags upside down, that being an reference to the flag controversy outside justice alito's home. he then went on to say the supreme court has never been and as out of kilter as it is today, i mean never now, this was part of a 35 minute conversation between him president obama, and late night show host jimmy kimmel. obama lamented the fact that there has been a normalization of behavior that was once disqualifying for candidates. he specifically pointed to trump's conviction in that criminal hush money trial in new york city and obama told voters to consider the values of the two men saying that biden upholds the values of this country. the first lady said that trump is someone who only cares about himself and not the american people. and this event brought in $28 million for democrats, the campaign say as that's the biggest fundraiser to date for any democratic president in history. they're hoping to carry some of that momentum as are looking to maintain that cash advantage over trump. >> all right, i'll let size in los angeles. thanks for that. and now onto michigan after trump made two very different stops in detroit this weekend one at a black church, the other with a conservative group of mostly young white activists. even mechan was there and joins us from detroit. so eva take us through the former president's de oman are the former president continued to echo conspiracy theories about the 2020 election, telling his supporters that he wants his margin of victory to be so large that it should be too big to rig. >> of course, we know the 2020 election was not rigged, but you hear that reframe being oh, by his supporters to big drink. he's also adding something else to his routine. it's really consequential. and he's telling his supporters that they have to plan their vote, whether it's early or by mail, on or on election day, they have to make a plan that's really a departure from 2020 when he casts doubt on those mechanisms who's a voting early and voting by mail. and it really indicates that this time around he's not trying to leave any votes on the table. take a listen the radical left democrats rig the presidential election in 2020 and we're not going to allow them to rig the presidential election in 2024. >> listen, we don't need votes. we've got more votes than anybody's ever had. >> we need to watch the vote. >> we did to guard the vote we need to stop the steal. we won a landslide that is too big to rick make a plan to vote, either by mail or early in person or on election day trump also spending his time in detroit at historically black church. >> he thinks that he can make inroads with black voters. this election, mano. >> all right, even my cabinet had tried thanks for that. and let's break this all down here in the room with a great panel. this one morning, cnn's kristen holmes. seed and stephen collinson, tyler foghat with the new yorker and punch bowls. anna palmer. good morning to you guys thanks for joining me this father's day morning so kristen, you cover the trump campaign, you travel all around with trump. he talked to his advisors well, it goes through this decision it makes sense from to reach out to black voters. no question about that, because obviously biden has been struggling to build the coalition that he took them back to the white house in 2020, pick back off that collision. that makes sense, but then talk to this really, far-right. grew turning point, usa. >> what does that give him and why, what is behind this campaigns thinking is so turning point usa is actually going to be very critical to donald trump's campaign. >> they are a huge part of the ground game they are planning on spending $108 to essentially be the boots on the ground three of the critical states, arizona, michigan, and wisconsin. they are putting people into these communities that they believe are red districts that did not show up to vote in either 2022 or 2020. they have done data research to try and bring out low propensity voters and they're essentially making people the mayor of these communities. so they, they show up in the polls. so actually donald trump is getting $108 million for that appearance on the one just a week ago because they don't have that same infrastructure on the ground. now, i do want to say one thing about black voters because i think it's really critical we keep talking about donald trump taking away black voters there is not going to be at least no indications gonna be some kind of swell of black voters for donald trump. what they do feel like they have that, they think that president biden doesn't have right now, is that donald trump's base is fully aligned with donald trump. they right now feel like they have the opportunity to go into what is traditionally democratic block black voters, latino voters, and try and siphoned away those voters because they don't feel like right now they're worried about getting his base back whereas they feel like president biden is worry is worried about courting his own base. >> but then when he goes, he talks to the base. he says things like the election was stolen, it was rig those are the kind of things that some republican voters who in vote for him last time, they may be open to voting from this time are swing voters. they hear that and they say, well, that's why i didn't that's right. that is exactly the kind of thing that some of these nikki haley voters, for example, the reason they didn't vote for him the primary is because they were alienated by the extreme nature of trump's coalition. >> to your point about black voters this is all about margins. if trump is going to be very close election in four or five states that will decide if trump can eat away a little bit. biden's traditional democratic margins among black voters in places like philadelphia detroit milwaukee, atlanta, that can make a big difference. so although no one when i think expects the turnout for trump among minority voters to be where the polls said is right now, biden got 92%, i think last time, if trump can get four or 5% more that makes a big difference. but i think there's a long history of republican campaigns and presidential elections over the last 20 years discounting the extent to which minority voters do in the end, end up showing up for democratic before you, before you jump in, i just look at the de point, the exit polls from 2020 vs now, fats news and quinnipiac and cbs news, just recent polling think about how trump biden versus trump on black voters down, biden is looking at 7% among voters, black voters in the 2020 exit polls. >> well, 15 points in the fox news, quinnipiac, and six points in the cbs news poll. >> i mean, that is a if you're joe biden, you obviously do better, but how much concern is in the biden campaign about that? >> yeah, i'm in what's interesting is that while we've seen trump make gains with non-white non-college educated voters. we've also seen biden make gains with white college-educated voters. and so part of what i've been following playing is just whether these, the inroads, they've been making with these different cohorts will end up canceling each other out that's interesting point. >> i mean, and while he was there, trump in detroit last night talking to black voters, he tried to cast biden as though new york times put in their headline this morning as anti black, this is what, and then when he went on to talk talk about crime in black neighborhoods as something is a reason why they should not vote for, biden. this is how trump pitched in to voters yesterday most rapid right here, and african american communities, biden wrote the devastating 1994 crime bill was talking about super predators that was biden. >> he walks around now talking about the black vote. he's the king of the super predators then he wrote the 1994 ghraieb bill that you talk about so much biden team responding to this saying that trump thinks that he has caught many bad friends, excuses an entire lifetime of what they say denigrating and disrespecting black americans. >> they wanted to say black voters know better it's interesting, trump's line against biden, find a risk revive biden's role in the 1995, 1994 crime law. i mean, he's is that effective? and he's also trying to use the fact that he was convicted, you know, now he's been convicted as something that he can tie tried to woo black voters to me, the big thing though, is it'not that, you know, to the earlier point that all of trump's can do so well with black voters, but it means that biden has to pay attention to them even more. when you look at where he is, where he's going, michigan, that is going to be ground zero for whether or not donald trump or joe biden is president. and this just act, this is just one of those areas where he's going to have to to kinda have to defend himself and the numbers you put up there are something that the biden campaign has to take serious. yeah. i didn't tell her you were mentioning about the perhaps winning bag voters in other areas, one of which could be seniors, that's one thing that the biden campaign has been focusing on increasingly, this past week and how did senior voters look at him versus younger? voters? that is, been a distinction when you look at the choice for president on people 65 and over, biden up 51, 45 among those voters. but among younger voters, that is he is not doing as well as he was in the last time. if you look at the on the screen, there, titled margins much tighter is that the biden democrats don't think that's real, but what explains this? shift of sorts where some more seniors are moving towards biden and younger voters or not. >> i mean, frankly, i think it's that there are a lot of younger voters who think that biden is too old for another term. and i would imagine that people who are closer to biden an age might not fuel is concerned about that. i don't know. maybe that's reductive, but i would guess that there's something to that we add gaza and all the rest and that becomes an issue as well. >> biden's hollywood fund fundraising last night he pulled in significant amount of money, obviously, the fundraising has been an issue for biden for some time they've been winning for some time. now recently, trump has overtaken him, and recent months, as you see by trump and his allies pulling get $141 million in may compared to we don't know what the biden team has raised yet, but they were they were ahead quite a bit up until recently. post-conviction, trump has really started to juice is fundraising much different than as you see april we'll see what the latest numbers are. the interesting last night they went to this hollywood fundraiser they, typically these things are closed doors affair. you don't really hear much about and maybe some reports get out. >> they were happy to bring in show biden next to all these hollywood celebrities and george clooney in the leg, you've covered fundraisers for so many years. >> what do you make up? >> it's interesting. i mean, this comes off for the heels when he had a big fundraiser with steven colbert also interesting that barack obama, the former president alongside him, i think this is an area where he can show some livelihood. they're there when you look at some of the quotes that came out of there to your point, oftentimes, these are very tight lipped affairs, but you saw that biden was kind of off the cuff making jokes, i think in a way, they're trying to showcase him, not just as kind of the elderly president, and that he can spark that. he's cool, right? is there a cool factor with hollywood? i think that biden's hoping that that can rub off on him a little bit. certainly within doozy asm, i think that there's something about hollywood brings a lot of enthusiasm. we saw that obviously with barak obama, there was an entire movement around how cool as you said, barak obama was. i thinking we've, talk about young voters, older voters talked, you mentioned gaza, but i also think when we're talking about some of these groups that donald trump is trying to siphon voters away from a lot of that is because there's a lack of it. louisiana, it's not just trying to get the voters. it's also trying to depress them from coming out for biden. and a lot of that starts with this idea that there's no enthusiasm for president joe biden. so doing stuff like this but something where you bring eyes to him in a very fun way, whereas a lot of what people see is him being kind pointed to as an older precedent. and instead, this gives him that kind of young edge of being in hollywood and that gives republicans opportunity, paint him as out of time right here, that as well all right cnn's presidential debate is almost here. do details about how they're getting ready and what they've agreed to. and that's not it should be a big evening. they say super bowl numbers. so everyone's going to watch, you we'll have to be screaming at your television set all night. i assume sometimes jonah wrestles with falling asleep, so he takes z quell the world's number one sleep, a brand and wakes up feeling like himself get the rest to be your best with non habit forming zeke. >> well, better days start with z equal nights from pep in their step to shine in their coats. and people switch their dogs foods, the farmers dog, the effects can seem like magic. >> but there's no magic involved it's just smarter, 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agreed to more debate rules. a coin flip will determine their podium positions microphones will be muted, except when it's each man's turn to speak and no props or pre-written notes will be allowed on stage. the 90 minute debate will have to commercial breaks and a reminder. they will not be a studio audience. >> i panel is now back. what's interesting is that we are hearing about the biden campaign strategy. >> obviously this is a huge moment for both campaigns, by one of this camp, this debate to be able to earlier, this is what a by campaign official told our colleagues here. it says the president has gotten increasingly punchier. in recent remarks about trump and plans to carry that theme through the debate. >> how do you see this playing out for the biden campaign? what does the president obviously need to do to change a race that has been really stable for months. right? >> i think that's true in some of these recent fundraisers you've seen the present trying outlines to attack trump for example, he said something snapped in him after he lost the last election. >> so he's going to try and make this case that trump isn't really fit to go back to the oval office to be present. again, this is a crucial debate because it's early, much earlier than most presidential debates we've seen been biden has to counter this impression that is being fostered by trump, that he's too old, is too slow on the flip side, there's the question of this volcanic temperament that trump showed in the first debate, the last time around. so a lot of things are really body up there. there's a real palpable sense here. i think that the campaign from the trials of trump and hunter biden is now flipping towards these two debates and biden will go to his debate camp. trump plays himself on tv every single day. he's not gonna be any different on the stand at that fraud trial in december in new york, he was very punchy and i think that is exactly back to the same kind of persona that you're going to see in the debate i mean, is you talked to the trump campaign, chris and jason miller as a trump adviser, said, president trump takes on numerous tough interviews every single week and delivers lengthy rally speeches while standing demonstrating a lead stamina that's according to jason miller but the interviews he's done really are mostly friendly. >> doctor exactly as we wanted skipped any skipped all of these debates in the primary, is he ready for this moment? look, i think as you said, donald trump isn't performers. so that is part of it. he also thinks that he is his best own advisor. so this kind of idea is that his team is trying to prep them without actually prepping him or at least without saying the word preparation, senior advisor actually told me we don't use the word preparation around donald trump, but they clearly have some issues that they're concerned about january 6 is one of them democracy is one of them. >> how he's been talking about that, talking about pardoning the people who are evolved in that attack. that was what that policy session was about. it was about how do you respond to those questions with people like marco rubio, with an eric schmidt trying to have an idea of how he should spin this spin is something that is done in a preparation setting clearly there. donald trump is trying to do some prep and i will say the issue of abortion, which was one i thought that they would spend a lot of time preparing for. they said they know what he's going to say on that. he's just going to say over and over again, it should be left to the states. yeah. >> so this is clearly what they're really concerned about now some of these other things he said, yeah, just to put that back up on your screen, the issues that were discussed at trump that trump pauses session january 6, pardoning riders, the border crisis, criminal prosecutions against trump so he's gonna get the january 6 question for sure. so does does he doubled down about what happened in january 6, as he's more and more over the years and started to embrace essentially what happened. >> yeah. i mean, i think if you look at what he's been doing on the campaign trail that some of these speeches stop the steal he hasn't shied away from january 6. and the fact that he's aggrieved, that he believes still that he one i think the big thing for me though, is both of them are going to be kinda rusty wright. they had a debate since 2020. there's a lot to lose this debate to me does not play a lot of trump's strong suits. there's not a live audience, there's not that, that energy loop that he really kind of gets charged up. the fact that the mics are gonna be muted, how they kind of show up is gonna be interesting. and for president biden, does he have the energy this to me is as important as the state of the union earlier for people that are concerned about his age, he's elderly. >> kenny show up. can you have the mental acuity there? think this is the highest stakes debate that we will have ever seen yeah. that's the issue voters of me watching so closely how they perform random. of course what they say will be important with two aging politicians that's obviously going to be critical. >> yeah, i do think it is more about optics and about policy and for that reason, i actually think that trump has made a strategic error by hammering just how basically biden can't put two sentences together. i think it will be like the state of the union where biden goes up there and as coherent and not just coherent, but pretty strong he immediately wins. i kinda think that the bar is actually lower for, for biden than it is for trump at this point, because of all the disagrees. >> and also donald trump's team is concerned about that they've been concerned about that for weeks. i mean, yeah. you talk to them. they're not talking about how by biden can't string sentences together in relation to the debate because they don't want to set the bar that low. because if all biden has to do is walk over, it is very likely he will and they saw his performance to say the union i'm trump continues to say that, oh, is the worst day of the union ever. well, there's a reason that he continues to fixate on it because biden came out and he came out swinging any had that energy and his team has continually brief trump that he could do that again. so you need to be ready for this. this isn't just him walking over the bar and while you discuss how people may view them. the biden team is hoping for moments like what happened yesterday when donald trump was talking about his former white house physician ronny jackson, and an event in michigan i think you should take a cognitive tests like i did. i took a cognitive test nih dot ronnie dr. ronny johnson does everyone know ronnie johnson, congressmen from texas? he was the white house doctor. and he said i was the healthiest president. he feels in history. so i liked him very much so he called them ronnie johnson, jackson not the biggest mistake in the role, but of course, he was talking about in the context of a cognitive test that he aced and job i can do, then it calls him ronnie johnson that's goes to the point of setting the bar very low. >> that biden may have to step over that bar, right? >> and if that happens during the debate, no doubt the president will try and point that out to everyone within ten minutes of the debate ending. it will be a campaign ad the biden campaign has started to hit back against this perception that the president isn't fit mentally to serve by highlighting all of these gaps that trump's makes on the campaign trail in that meeting with congressional leaders. the other de, he he said that milwaukee was a horrible city quickly people came out and basically said, well, he was talking about the crime rate, et cetera, et cetera but there were about 50 different explanations wasn't really a very smart thing to say when you're having your convention in milwaukee and 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among many in his party. >> and then after a lackluster performance 2022, midterms, many top republicans pointed the finger back at trump. but now his grip on the gop is once again, is tight as it ever has been this past week. trump back candidates one in primaries across the board, containing a larger trend. this cycle not a single federal candidate, would trump's endorsement has lost their primary race than in washington. there was no dissent. >> i'm told when trump met behind closed doors with house and senate republicans including past critics like gop leader mitch mcconnell. >> but a key test of his power will come tuesday in virginia, where the hard-right leader of the house freedom caucus, bob good, we'll try to fend off a primary challenge from state senator john maguire. it is maguire who holds that treasured trump endorsement. why in no small part, because good battle. ron desantis in the gop primary john is running against bob. good. >> two is actually bad for virginia and who will stab you in the back like he did me good brushes that aside donald trump backing your opponent. and how much does that hurt your campaign? we're going to win. the people are behind us in the fifth district, overwhelmingly, everybody is becoming together and winning on november 5, the time to talk about previous endorsement or supporting previous candace is behind us. again, we're going to win on june 18 in before we take into the politics of that just more broader, looking trump's endorsements. this cycle, it's been different than the last cycle because it's not just people who are maga aligned members as people that actually we have gone against some of the maga members. you just look at some of the people on your screen there, whether it's a tim sheehy and montana, there's all all down the line people trump pushed out a conservative candidate who is considering running against sheehy end mike rogers, who was one time a critic if his in michigan is endorsing them indoors, larry hogan this week the different the way he's handling it. >> this cycle. thank you. really see the behind the scenes effort and that republicans have put on trump and the trump campaign to endorse candidates that can win. >> there's one thing that senate republicans want. it is the majority in the senate and they feel like they didn't have it this last time because trump endorsed candidates that could not win statewide. the fact but he endorsed larry hogan, who just days ago was was criticizing him and upholding the law just showcases i think what a different tack he's taken this time. yeah. and obviously his the unity that he has been able to for upon his party was been on full display, particularly in this past week. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, i've been going back to this idea that the endorsement strategy has been different. i think that it almost seems like trump is like more forgiving than he used to be, like even larry hogan, it's like larry hogan is still part sizing. >> absolutely. larry hogan and then doubled down on that endorsement last night? yeah. it's yeah, it's kinda crazy and then i always think about nancy mason south carolina to who i believe initially was kinda saying that trump, in fact did not win the 2020 election and not only did she win highly contested prize hi mary, where she needed to get not just a plurality, but a majority and race with three candidates. but she also was on the shortlist for trump's vp picks. so it's kind of crazy that it's come all the way around. >> and you wrote about that this week, steven, about trump got the perfect birthday present complete capitulation by the gop. >> that was a fascinating meeting highlighted by that handshake between mitch mcconnell and trump. the senate minority leader has never sky xd is disdain for trump, but he's also always been about power and regaining power and that was what that handshake was all about. that meeting was almost a tableau of how trump exerts power. he requires people to show loyalty in public almost a genuflecting before him in his own party. and there were many of those members who have their own concerns about trump, who voiced them in the past in the house, but more importantly, in the senate who basically understand that he is shocked to get the senate back after the next election. and they're prepared to do whatever it takes them to stand with him to get a taste of that power it, let's dive a little bit into that. >> virginia raised. that's happening on tuesday to knock off trump. what's now golf? the house freedom caucus leader bob good. and look at the money that is spent. this is the most expensive house republican primary in the country. more money is coming against bob good, then for him in no small part, good was one of the aid of course, who voted to oust kevin mccarthy, but also his endorsement of ron desantis. i put this question to a number of republicans this past week about how they view this battle i don't like liars and i don't like back sauber's and bob good. >> bob good, really sad president trump in the back. >> bob good is can be he terrific for the trump agenda because he's a conservative fighter. presidencies of differently if bob gets to feed it, it will be because donald trump should the president get reelected, then i think president will learn quickly that some of these people may not be sitting in the trenches with them. >> i think bob good has made a lot of a lot of a lot of enemies. >> would the house be better off without them honestly yes i think it will because he's a divisive force so we don't need i mean, here's trump. got to worry about the presidential race, but he still remembers the fact that rhonda see bet, good, bad. ron desantis, and he's trying to defeat it. >> also, just remember that bob good completely fell on his sword and then went to donald trump's trial and stood behind donald trump and still this is what he is doing now, just overall on an endorsement strategy i would say that a lot of this is danes doing a really good job, gains senate gop chair, right? making sure that donald trump was not stepping out of line. >> also, donald trump learning something which was these are different group of people than the house republicans that go rah, rah, rah. but with bob good, donald trump ultimately is going to come down to loyalty. he's not the only house member who backed desantis over trump. he's also not the only house member that donald trump has turned his irr because of it, you're not over it revenge politics. more, more of that coming up. trump constantly blasted judicial system, but just how much has it helped him in his bid for the oval office i just went through a rigged trial in new york assignment with audie cornish. >> listen wherever you get your podcasts i brought in a juror max protein with 30 grams of protein. >> those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks here, i'll take that ensure match protein, 30 grams protein one prim sugar, 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it's never happened in this country. our enemies want to take away my freedom because i will never let them take away your freedom, but they don't go after the democrats. the only go after the republican sake of it. >> there really is a day that goes by when donald trump does not attack the justice judicial system. yet, it says, save system that could give them a boost ahead of november tape, judge, aileen cannon well, i'm trump's younger court appointees whose decision in his mar-a-lago classified documents, criminal case, have likely deleted until after the election and the supreme court, a third of which he is appointed, has yet to rule on the question about whether he's immune from prosecution, simply taking up that case has delayed two of his criminal trials. the court even kept him on the colorado ballot after his candidacy was challenged this date over january is six plus a georgia appeals court is reviewing the conduct a prosecutor, fani willis, and trump's election subversion criminal case in fulton county, ning that also be delayed until after november. my panel is back. so this also comes after hunter biden, of course, was convicted on felony charges last week, two democrats are being members of congress are also so being prosecuted, i put the question to mitt romney. i asked him about the contention from republicans that republicans are being treated differently than democrats. >> what do you say to republicans who say that there's still shows a tier, two tier justice system in the aftermath of the hunter biden conviction? >> well, i think hunter biden decision shows that there is a single tier of justice that's my own view, which is that the justice department brought action against democrat. >> they can put the question to republicans on the hill in the ligand trump campaign. they still say it's a two-tiered system of justice yeah. >> i mean, i think that one of the things going on here is that trump probably resents how much money he has had to spend on these legal cases. we're talking about fundraising earlier and one thing that i always think about is that you know between trump losing the election to joe biden and then joe joe biden's inauguration thank you. raised like $250 million, which he then put in a pack and he is essentially spent all that money down is now i think at 5 million because he's used all that money on legal fees. and so i think that especially given that he was just found guilty of 34 felony counts, and that he's used a lot of money that could go toward campaigning on legal fees. i can see why he's so fixated on this, even if there happens some delays in his court, but there's no question about it. >> he has shaped the court in obviously the high court, the highest court in the land as well, perhaps even more so than joe biden look at just the number of appointees, judges who have been confirmed over his presidency, 200 45 for trump versus 201 for joe biden. >> and that is a significant number. and he's benefiting from florida where the judge, their aileen cannon has effectively delayed that case and also the supreme court get that step in and help them as well. absolutely. i mean, if you look at the success that he had in his presidency was one of the key victory is that he imaged mcconnell work together on despite not liking each other very much with to get these judges in place, i also think what's really interesting to think about is you see this in the rally cry for joe biden last night at the fundraiser saying, if he gets reelected, he's going to have another chance for two more judges on that supreme court. and that is something that you're going to hear democrats pounced on over and over again on the trump campaign view this retribution talk playing out. i mean, yes, it works well with his base but suite we, their focus groups that suggests that perhaps swing voters don't like it as much yet, he is doubling down when he's asked about that yeah. i mean, these are one of the things that donald trump can't help himself, but double down on in an interview, you kind of like not backing bob. >> good, it's just like these are innate and who he is as a person and he fundamentally is still angry at the people he believes betrayed him and embarrassed him how it's actually going to play out remains to be seen. but if you look at the way that these groups like project 2025 are restructuring, are planning on restructuring the government. it would give enormous amount of power to the executive branch, which then would mean it was possible for donald trump to wield that power for revenge if he wanted to hear not going to stop talking about it because it's something that he truly feels, whether or not it helped them or not. i think that you'll see him talking about it less in meeting like with mitch mcconnell and senators where he asked me on his best behavior. but those rallies look at an eu to do it, and i assume the biden campaign's and a jump all over this. 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seen a world cup like this. >> and it's coming to the us in 2026. but while that may seem far away, there is now a furious effort underway between the federal government and the soccer organization, fifa, to make sure the event is pulled off without a hitch. and i'm told it is an enormous undertaking with 48 teams now competing up from 322 years ago. that means an already strained us immigration system will be put to a major test. not only were the players, coaches, and staff need visas, but so will the estimated 5 million international fans expected to attend these games? who may be traveling among the 16 host cities in the us, mexico and in canada. now with nearly 80 of the 104 matches expected to be played in the united states, lawmakers tell me this is requiring a massive amount of coordination between washington, local governments and fifa this will be the largest sporting event in the history of the world we're going to have 100 matches. it's like having 104 super bowls and 39 days. but there he is going to have to be cooperation between congress homeland security, state department, and the white house this has never been done before where you have three countries working in collaboration to do that now, if president gianni infantino recently visited the us capital. >> where he met with speaker mike johnson. democratic leaders hakeem jeffries and chuck schumer's chuck schumer, as well as some cabinet secretaries in addition to planning for extraordinary security measures house members in the so-called soccer caucus told me the us will likely need a special visa process, so fans can move between countries more easily, including people from countries where it's not normally easy to enter into the united states the biggest issue will be working with canada and mexico in the united states on a visa system that is unique and different than anything we've done before. >> a lot of folks are coming to united states who maybe have never the united states before. we 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