breaking news of federal jury finding hunter biden, the president at a previously scheduled event on gun safety, and we just learned that afterwards he will be traveling to delaware to be with his son or last hour, the special prosecutor in the case gave his first statements since the jury reached their decision this morning here's david weiss this case was about the illegal choices defendant made while in the throes of addiction. >> his choice to lie on a government form when he bought a gun and the choice to them possess that gun, it was these choices. and the combination of guns and drugs that made his conduct dangerous second no one in this country is above the law everyone must, be accountable for their actions. even this defendant however hunter biden, should be no more accountable than any other citizen convicted of this same conduct. the prosecution has been and will continue to be committed to this principle some jurors though, are now questioning whether this case should have even been brought with one woman saying to cnn that it seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars. >> this is someone who who served on the jury another one calling the process, quote, frustrating because he quote felt like we couldn't get the full story. >> let's take you now, live outside the federal courthouse in delaware with cnn's paula reid. >> we also have cnn's kayla tausche with us at the white house. first two you, paulo, what else are jurors saying about this historic verdict? >> this is fascinating, boris, our colleague hanna rabinovitz talked to several jurors to get these details about what exactly happened in the deliberation rib. and yesterday when they took their first vote, which is usually what you do when you go into the back to begin your deliberations, you hold a group, say, where are we in? so these three counts, who's for a conviction and acquittal, who's not sure. one of the jurors tells hana that it was 66, so it was split half and half. we know there's a jury is comprised of six men six women. it is a majority-black jury. we learned when they came back this morning, it was 111 in favor of conviction. so at least some jury first went home and after some more reflection after they got some sleep, they decided that they were in fact convinced the prosecutors had prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt. we learned that the other jurors really focused on that one holdout and convinced that individual that prosecutors had proven the elements of knowingly knowingly a significant because ie when he filled out that form on e firem, he knowingly lied that he was either using or addicted to illegal drugs. and we have kind of mixed mixed verdict from the jury on whether this was a worthy pursuit. one juror telling hannah that they believe this was a waste of taxpayer money, but they thought they had no choice but to convict based on the instructions that they were given by the judge but then another juror that manu raju night i talked to on error, said that he believed that yeah, it was a legitimate pursuit, so it seems like even though they were unanimous in their conviction, a little bit of a mixed verdict in terms of whether this case which has come under criticism even from prominent republicans like lindsey graham i'm in representative matt gaetz mixed verdict from the jurors as to whether this was a good use of taxpayer money in kayla, do you how is the president responding house the white house reacting? >> oh, briana, the president is now scheduled to travel to wilmington, delaware later this afternoon. that travel expected to come after he delivers public remarks at an event here in washington on gun safety issues and gun violence prevention. he was expected to talk about what does administration has done to pass common sense gun laws. and two pursue things like expanded background checks. some of those background checks, of course, at the heart of the form that the president's son, hunter biden, was now found by a jury to have lied on in those convictions that came out today, the president did release an official statement that echoed much of the support that he has shown for his son, hunter in the past, that statement, if i may read it, it says as i said last week, i am the president, but i am also a dad, jill and i love our son and we are so proud of the man he is today. he goes on to say so many families who have had loved ones battle addiction, understand the feeling of pride seeing someone you love come out the other side and be so strong and resilient in recovery. as i also said last week, i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal, jill and i will always be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. nothing will ever change that you may remember the biden family was two gather in delaware in the days preceding the beginning of the trial last week when president biden was traveling in france for the 80th anniversary of d-day and a state visit. the first lady traveled back and forth to be in the courtroom to support hunter and to support hunters daughter. the bidens grand daughter, naomi biden, as the defense called her as a witness to testify phi the first lady, again, appearing in court shortly after the verdict was read. today's so that biden's are making no secret of their desire to be there for hunter and be there for the broader family as they are going through this. but as the president said in his statement, they are willing to let the judicial system speak for itself. here. >> alright. kayla tausche, paula reid. thank you. to you both. we appreciate it let's discuss now with our panel, we have seen in legal analyst elliot williams, cnn special correspondent jamie gan, gail, cnn contributor and biden biographer evan osc knows republican strategists. >> sure. michael singleton and former biden white house communications director, kate betting the field and kd, as a former communications director for president biden, what do you anticipate he's going to say at this speech? does he mostly stick to the script as he mentioned, that at all, i would be very surprised if he mentioned that at all. i think he's been very disciplined about not speaking about this case. he saw him put out a written statement where he reiterated what he's essentially said from the start which as he loves his son, he supports his son. obviously, he is showing with his feet by going to wilmington that he supports this done that he's there for his son you know, there's not a huge imperative for the president to turn the narrative toward conversation of this and adding a topper to this event and bringing the conversation back. there doesn't make a whole lot sense. so i do really, really surprised if he add something at the top of his remarks, not impossible that he might take a question from reporters on his way out the door but i would expect that he will probably be focused on the topic at hand here. this sure. michael was a previously scheduled event, but it is on gun safety and we heard just a short time ago, david weiss, the us to tourney, the special counsel who oversaw this prosecution, talking about how it was a combination of drug use and choices. this combination of drugs and guns that was dangerous. so you have the gun trial and you have this gun event and i just wonder what you think about that. >> yeah. i mean, you so the next system so when you complete form 44, 73 for you in order to possess or purchase a firearm or to transfer a firearm or the pick up either transfer of a firearm, you complete that document, the ffel holder typically at a gun shop, will run your information through knicks, national instant background check system, which is an existence because of the 93 brady act, president biden knows a whole lot about that mr. make sure that you don't have any criminal background in order to legally possess a gun. >> so it is interesting that the president is speaking about this issue, yet his son, for the most part, would have been able to successfully complete the background check, were it not for his inability to do so because he used illegal substances? >> i do wonder though, and i mentioned in this decade earlier, would the president potentially commute his sons sentence to avoid scotus being able to take a look at this and say, wait a minute, we do need to make some changes because this is in violation of the second amendment. but i think that's a fascinating topic for the white house to consider it's a really interesting question. >> i don't think that the president, whatever view this as a gun safety strategic issue, i think to him, first and foremost, it's an issue of the president not inappropriately intervening in the judicial system and then secondly, of course, it's an issue for his family, so i would i would be very surprised if he used it in that strategic way. i don't think that's the lens through which seeing let's pivot away from the politics for a moment because obviously this is one of two cases, federal cases that hunter biden is facing and elliott, as we look at a potential sentence, we have to await whatever he's going to face in california. >> but what do you anticipating might come not a lot. that's not all this talk about sweetheart deals and it we're talking about a federal sentencing guidelines here and they're quite clear for gun possession offenses. number one, where the firearm was not possess was not brandished during the commission of the offense. number two, with the defendant, that does not have a criminal history. number three, those things in all likelihood lead to a prison sentence within the guideline range of i believe zero to six months now, to be clear, the judge can go below that or above that if he can shape pardon me, can justify a reason for doing so if she thinks it's in the public interest or eff to rehabilitate this defendant or to keep the public safe, should certainly she could go higher or if she felt that even a prison sentence of two or three months, whatever that might be, would still be two onerous in this case, you'd go below. i'm just giving probation or so on. but the simple fact is the law is clear, passed by congress. and ratified over years of people being sentenced, that this particular three convictions will not lead in all likelihood do much prison time. >> it's interesting hearing from the jurors. the jurors convicted him on all three charges on this jamie, and yet we've heard from multiple jurors different things. one woman who said it seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars, another man who said he doesn't think that hunter biden should see jail time. i don't know if everyone pays attack and shin to the ins and outs of things. although i wish they would because i think it's pretty interesting to hear from the people who convicted him and what they think about this. >> so i thought the most fascinating thing was hearing from juror number ten, who did an interview with us. we protected his identity. it made you crazy. my mind i want to be clear as for the benefit of viewers for people who are interested in how the system works. it's a fascinating, beautiful look inside the jury room that makes prosecutors had because of the risk of that person making some statement that suggests that they brought in other information or other factors that could jeopardize and get the whole thing thrown out. and it happens. >> but at the end of the day, what he really said was the common sense prevailed. he said that the jury believed that hunter was an addict at the time he filled out the form, so they answered that question. and then he said, i believe and the jury believed he did knowingly by the gun, knowing he was addicted. pretty pretty common sense. the other thing that i just thought was interesting was we asked him, was the jury influenced by the biden family? and you could really see this was a delaware jury because first juror number ten said not at all. put it out of our mind. >> but when he talked about members of the biden family, he called the first lady, jill that's a delaware and hallie and naomi, they know the members of the family taking off my annoying prosecutor hat, the most important thing he said was that they weren't unanimous. >> they came back in the morning and were close to unanimous and then got there and the law would have required them to do that if they'd come back and said that we can't agree with each other. the judge would have instructed them to come back and figure out a way to do so. the system, this is why we don't have that many hung juries are split verdicts because the system sort of urges people to do so when it worked, the jurors also talked about how they didn't factor in who hunter biden was the president's son into their deliberations. i do have some sound from one of the jurors talking about naomi campbell's testimony. let's listen to that. >> i felt bad that they put naomi on trial witness i i think that was probably a strategy that should not have been done no. >> no daughter should ever have to testify or again sir, dad so just to be clear naomi campbell test if no, she didn't really biden. all right. >> we have evan austin us with a biographer whose closely followed joe biden's life and his family. obviously this case extremely personal how do you think they're absorbing this result? and as the president heads to wilmington after this speech, what do you imagine the atmosphere in that room as he meets with hunter is going to be like yeah, this family really for the 50 years that they've been in public life, had had this kind of unusual awareness of the tragic sensibility. >> i mean, the reality of tragedy in your life and the tragedy in this case was no question about it. was hunter biden's descent into this period of addiction he'd struggled with it in the course of his life before that, but it was really the death of his brother in 2015 that sent him and ultimately the whole family down this really dark period. i think one of the things we've learned from this case is this is important we try to understand the lives of our presidents in this country is we've gained a much deeper understanding of what was happening in joe biden's life in the years between 2017 and 2021 when he was out of office before he came back in as president after the vice presence, they were dealing with just a tremendously difficult and grueling period. and it is still will now unfolding and you see them gathering in wilmington as they always have done over the years, joe biden used to spend the night, as you know, in delaware, even when he was in the senate because he was a single father. so there is a way in which they are returning to the hometown to begin to regroup evan. thank you so much obviously, a look into how the bidens are approaching this and elliott, i know that you just wanted us and we'd been talking about sentencing. tell us what i want to be clear. it could be higher than that zero to six figure. i'd given the sentencing guidelines are exceptionally complicated, it may be upwards of 12 months but there are a number of factors including the nature of the prohibition, the nature of the statute, and so on. needless to say, you're looking at a period of months too low, one years or but not met several years in prison, like so when we hear this, well, he's looking at 25 years in prison. that's certainly not accurate. that's just if you go so with the ceiling that one could get an a quickly elliott. yeah. how does the california case potentially impact the sentencing for this gang case? well, doesn't it? well, in terms of the timing, the judge will likely wait until and sentence both until after we know what happens to the california case, this could have an effect on the california sentencing because now he has a felony conviction on his record. good. which would certainly button a criminal history which would bump up his sentencing and in the california, you would serve concurrently. >> well, they're it all depends on how the judge's cut it up. >> now this is multiple charges. they would be lumped concurrently and then it would be up to the judge in california to determine how to sentence after that. >> all right. panel, please stay with us and stamina by were waiting to hear from the president at a gun safety event due to speak at any moment, just hours after the conviction of his son on federal gun charges, will bring you the president's remarks as they happen, they would see an you guys. i got welcome first, we did the impossible. >> you age so many of the impossible that we completely ran out. >> and now there foot locker cookies back-end subway dad is a legend at his legendary moves might be passed down to you. >> ancestry dna can show you which traits were inherited where they came from and who he shares them with. but get moving the sale is old leaf are 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president child is we are awaiting right now president biden, who is going to speaking here shortly at a gun safety event here in washington? >> yeah, we're told the president deported the white house a short time ago. >> this event is at the washington hilton, so it's not that far. we're anticipating his remarks will come at any moment let's discuss now with cnn political analyst, historian and professor julian zelizer, julia thanks so much for being with us just the historical perspective here. >> have we seen something like this before in terms of a sitting president relative being convicted now that conviction is something new, it's a first we've seen former president's children in trouble. >> neil bush, for example, got in trouble with a savings and loan issue, but it didn't reach the point of indictment and conviction. so that makes this a new moment in american history. >> you have bill clinton, who pardoned his half-brother roger clinton on his way out of the office for a drug conviction in the 1980s, jimmy carter's younger brother, billy carter, faced tax and ethics investigations. how is this different? >> well, yes family problems and family issues always enter opponents. try to use that. this is happening right in the middle of the campaign. obviously it involves biden's opponent, the former president donald trump himself being convicted and, facing multiple other charges. and so all of this comes at once and it is certain that the republican nominee will try to use this to muddy the waters, to try to paint some sort of equivalency between what he faced and what hunter biden faced and so the context makes it different. donald trump makes it different. and also just our current era where it's harder to really create guardrails and the kinds of informations and allegations that will emerge from this also make it different. >> one. thing that is different about the way that these convictions have come down is the way that the protagonists in these cases have approached the situation. you have a hunter biden and president biden's family essentially saying that this is up to jurors, that this is a for the legal system. >> and then you have donald trump and his acolytes saying that the whole system is rigged against him. >> julian, how do you see that? playing out? how do you see that dynamic? >> well i think that is a contrast that the parties are going are going to highlight certainly democrats want to show that president biden supports the legal process even when it involves his own son not only is he saying you know, the decision is one that comes from the courts, he's not saying he's going to use presidential power to somehow issue a pardon or something. and you contrast that with the former president who's attack the legal system. these questioned its legitimacy. and so i think that is part of the choice voters are going to have in november, both responses really are indicative of the difference with how the parties and the two top candidates see our major political legal institutions and voters will have to make a choice what kind of response do they want? and what kind of person do they want in the oval office come january of 2025? >> it's also i think a moment and i wonder how you see it that we're in when it comes to americans questioning institutions, losing faith in institutions, and clearly that plays in to how president biden is approaching that. do you see that? >> absolutely i mean, the legal system has been one part of our system of our politics that has been immune really from the growing distrust that has faced everything else from congress to the media, to the presidency. >> and i think president biden very much is not just doing this for political reasons. he wants to reiterate that the legal system is central. it's a backbone to our democracy but it's becoming harder to do. and i do think this campaign, because of the way that the former president is launching attacks on the system, will be a 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die in vain. >> to your love you help prevent the next tragedy. it saves lives. and through your actions, you remember us will never let go. one thing that we must never, never lose. and i mean this, i know it's hard because i've gotten those phone calls to santa lost his son, a daughter, wife. i know what it's like but guess what? never give up on hope. hope give you my word. i know what that feels. that black hole when you're received that phone call, it seems like your black hole in near chester, been sucked into it just showing up here and all the work you've done, take some courage because it reminds you of the mlb mom was you got that phone call reminds you, no matter how long it goes until you it's just it's hard but you so you make such a difference. the main reason i'm here to say, i mean, it's in the bottom leinhardt no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no great care. innocent children have been lost they make a pull come on now every town hall will leaders navigate here 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and domestic violence invest $250 million of violence intervention programs all across the country now my daughter's, the social worker worker in violence against women what people don't realize is these things matter. >> they change, they change attitudes. we've already fundamentally at programs and counting we also makes gun trafficking and straw purchaser, the federal crime for the first time. give me prosecutors the legal tools to charge traffickers and hold them accountable for the more severe penalties that are available. >> lost his background checks for anyone under the age of 21 trying to purchase a firearm. >> and it's about time there's more we have to do there. it's a big deal since the law was passed whenever you fbi stopped more than 700 sales of firearms or individuals on page 21 and about 20,000 unlicensed firearms dealer are now required to become licensed to run background check gone down a dangerous hands second that kelp stops mass shootings, provides $750 million. 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professionals to be hired and trained in our schools to work in our schools full-time. that's 14,000 more and then over 170,000 americans across country had been trained to identify when someone is having a mental health crisis connect them to the help they need. >> by the way. >> one of the reasons i wrote the latest veterans bill was because more veterans and more active duty personnel are dying of suicide than any combat it matters folks, this historic laws already saving lives. but there's still so much more to do to maximize the benefits to the bipartisan safer communities act. that's why last september i established the first-ever white house office of gun violence we've, dropped first-grade professionals and overseen by my incredible vice president a, pretty first prosecutor as well to drive and coordinate govern a nationwide effort to reduce gun violence in america. that's why we did it to send a clear, a clear message about how important this she was to me to you and to the entire country folk you're changing the nation. >> you really are you're changing the nation. >> it builds upon the doesn't have executive actions, minor ministration is taken to reduce gun violence. more than any of my predecessors. and i suspect more than all of them combined everything from cracking down on ghost guns, gun traffickers so much more. folks. we're not stopping there. it's time once again do what i did when i was a senator ban assault weapons god's name these magazine with could hold 200 shells nobody that's right i remember when i was campaign when i was a senator gone through the through the wetlands of delaware read all the people who are most upset with me the fisherman in the hunters and i came across a guy was fishing and he said, you want to take my gun. and i looked at him. i said, i don't wanna take your gun, you're allowed to have a gun, but i want to take away your ability to use an assault weapon and then what, you know this is a conversation went he said, what do you mean i need that done? i said, guess what? >> have you need 1,200 bullets in a gun and magazine, you're the lousy shot i've ever heard jurors credit looked at, me he said, you have a good point think about it. >> there are weapons of war and by the way, it's time we establish universal background checks require the safe storage of firearms we should hold your family responsible. they don't provide those locks on those guns if the fact because three of these major crime scenes i've visited were ones where that mother or father left open left stuff out on the desk. that's it out on a table. >> and the kid came infused it and why the way this is most important, the only industry in america that has immunity are gone we gotta hand it imagine again, if we gave tobacco, an exception, they could not be prosecuted. we won't happen. >> we still thousand more people will be dying of cancer because of smoke inhalation it's time to increased funding for the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, and explosives, and other law enforcement agencies as well to solve the crime as fast look. unfortunately it's only part is thinking, want to say for congressional republicans oppose all of these, every one of these set of trying to stop are banned and ghost gun kits contain these can be they can commit crimes. they're working like hell, those to stop it. they want a ballot. they want to abolish the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms and explosives responsible for friday and, gun crime. it can't be pro law enforcement and say you are a pro law enforcement and be pro abolishing the aft i disagree with mike some of my own party and on the other sayyed, a lot of things, but at least there's some, some rational argument that have as part of their argument what in god's name is the rationale for taking away their alcohol, tobacco, and firearms after school shooting in an iowa that killed a student and a teacher. my predecessor was asked about it you remember what he said have to get over it hell, no, we don't have to get over it got to stop stop our children america by guns than cancer and car accidents combined are treta says a toll, the nra convention recently, he's proud of code. >> i did nothing on guns when i was president and by doing nothing, he made the situation considerably worse. that's why every town why there's some of why all of you here today are so important. we need you we need you to overcome the unrelenting opposition of the gun lobby gun manufacturers, so many politicians, when they opposed common sense gun legislation i used to be a log when i was no longer the vice president, i became a professor at the university of pennsylvania. and before that, i taught constitutional law class. and so i'll talk to the second amendment there's never been a time that says you can own anything you want and never, you couldn't own a cannon during the civil war think about it. how much you hear this phrase? >> the blood of liberty walsh has give me a break by the way, if they want to think to take on government, if we get out of line, which there's talking again about, i guess what they need that 50s. i don't need a rifle folks luck. >> this is crazy. what we're talking about, because whether we're democrats, republicans we want our families to be safe. we all want to drop them off at the house of worship, a mall, a movie theater, a scroll without worrying is the last time i gotta get to see them well our. >> kids to have the freedom to learn how to read, write, and schools and said, and learn how to duck and cover for god's sake. >> we all agree we are not finished single know, single-action can solve the entirety of a gun violence epidemic. but together our efforts, your reference are saving lives we can help rally a nation with a sense of urgency and seriousness of purpose. you're changing the culture we've proven we can do more than just thoughts and prayers this more than thoughts and prayers are changing politics. >> your program, that your powerful and you're relentless. >> and i mean that let me close this. i know many people here have been impacted by gun violence and are tired and frustrated i know i've been to too many. i've i've literally spoken well over 1,000 families and these events that i've attended, masteries look in their eyes you can almost done almost feel that black hole that fiona center of their chest, like they're being sucked in there's no way out and they have to remain in children. you look at the children and they wonder mommy, daddy how about me? and i know you may wonder are we ever going to make full progress that we need to make i'm here to tell you we had no choice we can not give up trying for all lives lost and all those are still there to save, are going to get there i have no illusions about how difficult it may be, but i also have no illusions about the people in this room you're changing the attitude of the public. i really mean, i'm come back to why scotland first place that is to say thank you we can come up i can come up with all these ideas about the laws we can change to make it easier but you're changing people whose lives. you're convincing your neighbors of people. this is necessary. it's beginning to move who've already done around the community look in the movement you've built elected officials standing with you. >> look at all the mothers organizations across the country when there's, a crisis half what people affected by a creche have to know is anybody listening? do you hear me to the here we're saying this is a young people are speaking out that's the power of the memory of your loved ones. that's the power of this movement. that's the power america. we just have to keep going and keep the faith. remember who we are. we are the united states, america, and there's nothing beyond our capacity when we act and do it together. so god bless you all got the texas thank you we've been listening to a fired up president joe biden discussing his commitment to solving gun violence. >> he talked about his commitment to passing gun laws and the gun safety what on the day that his son was convicted for breaking federal gun laws, the president did not make mention of it, and roughly 20 minutes of remarks. really, the president energized on this issue and with a very, for the most part, receptive crowd. >> yeah, he's been dealing with this issue for so long when it comes to what a lot of the folks in this audience are concerned about, which is unsafety in schools at public events it really just places people go in the course of their normal lives. and there are so many survivors in that crowd that he has speaking to there as well let's go to kayla tausche. she is at the white house tracking this event also at the head of the white house briefing, which we are experience expecting here in just a moment. kayla, what did you think about what the president said? and also, if you can just pull back the curtain on some of the thinking there at the white house as the president is dealing with news of hunter biden's conviction on gun charges well, rhiannon, this was a very energized president onstage at that event, at just very close to the white house here where the president talked about the safeguards put in place by the bipartisan safer communities act in the wake of the uvalde school shooting and talked about the need for more policies changes to come specifically universal background checks, safe storage laws, as well as an assault weapons ban. >> and it was when he talked about the need for an assault weapons ban, that was one of the many moments that the crowd erupted into cheers. cans of four more years, very receptive ground with those four more years, chance even drowning out a loan protest or during the event, who tried to shame president biden four in her words enabling genocide in, in the middle east at where gaza is concerned. but certainly you mentioned the political awkwardness of the timing of this event. there's a fluke on the schedule but definitely comes as the president's son is being convicted on those federal gun charges. he was not expected to make mention of those charges, and he didn't. although there are still opportunities for reporters to ask questions of him. if and when they see the president at some point along that route, the white house press briefing that was expected to take take place this afternoon. it has now been canceled. so any opportunity to ask the press secretary, karine jean-pierre questions about the conviction that the jury leveled earlier today, there is no longer an opportunity to do that as the president is now going to be heading to wilmington, delaware, ostensibly to be sharing some personal time with his family in the wake of that conviction, we know that the family has been spending a lot of time together in the leadup to this trial. and during this trial with the first lady traveling back and forth from the president's trip in france let's to be there in-person in the courtroom as some of the most emotional testimony was delivered, so we will see what more we get from the president, but certainly at this point, the white house is more than satisfied to let the president's own words earlier today's speaker for themselves where he says that he's proud of his son and where he stands in his recovery, and that the judicial system can do its own work. and i'm paraphrasing there, but that is essentially the statement that the president has been issuing throughout the course of this legal affair, guys? >> okay. we'll tausche alive for us at the white house. kayla will let you get to that press briefing that was obviously delayed by the president's remarks it actually just got canceled. yeah. we just learned that what briefing cancel after the president's son was convicted? yeah. >> well we're going to take a quick break. >> i think we'll discuss also let's keep one with the panel. >> all right. kate, former white house communications director, keep adding field that's kind of interesting. >> briefing cancels the briefing. it's not uncommon to cancel the briefing after the president gives a significant set of remarks. i mean, your aim it during the de is to try to get the press to cover the things you want them to cover. so when the president goes out, gives a speech like that on an issue where that is meaningful to him, where he's got a lot to talk about, where he's laid out the accomplishments of his administration, by the way, bipartisan success, these hadn't his administration. you want the focus to be there. so sometimes they put don't all and he's making this reaching. sometimes you pull down. well, but they also didn't know you guys we're going to cover it in full he might blanche new i loved my dear friend kate here, but we know why it was canceled because they don't want to deal with questions about the verdict. i understand that. and it's okay to say, look, this is a difficult time for the president right now. we haven't had the opportunity to digest all of this. >> i'm going to cancel this thing, will get back to you guys the next day. just be transparent okay, good contain taken many, many questions about this for the podium i would expect if she took the issue to karina questions today, she would say what she has always said, you would point to what the president has said and move on. i can make these decisions to keep the focus on the things but you want to talk because this is different. >> this is different because he's been convicted occasions decision. >> i don't think this is different. this is about keeping the focus on what the president is talking about. >> now we can, it can be both. all right, anyway can be both. you want to keep the focus on what you want to keep the focus on, but you also don't want to talk about what you don't want to talk about yet until you have your messaging points clear, until the president perhaps goes to wilmington and discusses it with the family and maybe the president himself will say something and she doesn't want to say something before the president will say she's taken many, many questions on that. she has, she has not engaged because obviously, hunter is not an elected official. she is the spokesperson for the president and the white house. she's not hunter biden spokesperson. there would be nothing about her engaging today there'll be different. she would shan't all questions that the president's son was found guilty of three felonies. that's a pretty substantial difference. >> i disagree with that. there's this question has come up consistently. she has handled it in a consistent way. again, as somebody who made some these decisions, i can tell you, you make these communications decisions to try to keep the focus on the things you want to focus on when the president gives a rousing speech on an issue that he cares about, that he has a lot to say. sometimes you pull down the briefing so that you don't wind up going in circles for hours conjecture not have the kind of conversation that we're having white house. >> did i think you're going i think you're going to have it more because the briefing is canceled and that raises more he's getting on and off or chopper or whatever he is going to get on and off up to go to wilmington, maybe they don't want to step on his leinz may be there's something that he wants to say, but i mean, it just raises more questions i think then an answers to have the white house say, never mind, we're not going to talk today panel, please stand by. >> we're going to continue the discussion after a quick break. sit a new central returns in a moment i was scared when i was told age-related macular degeneration could jeopardize my vision. it was hard, but taking preservation was easy. >> preserve vision as the exact clinically proven they rich two formula recommended by the ndi. >> i'm taking control like millions of others. >> i brought in a juror max protein 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