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just sit in there like a big, juicy happening now, breaking news the election subversion case against donald trump in georgia was just put on hold indefinitely. >> the state appeals court ordering the pause until it rules on the latest effort to get district attorney fani willis disqualified from the case also tonight, trump is renewing is threat to seek revenge for his criminal convic york, the former president turned felons, suggesting he may prosecute and even j hill his political opponents, if he returns to the white house, plus resident biden lands and france just ahead of the d-day anniversary, amy, to show global leadership and draw a stark contrast with trump, will the president's message gets through as the white house is rushing to dispute a new report about his mental fitness welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i will blitzer a year in this situation room the. skis, cnn breaking news first up tonight, the breaking news, donald trump scores to desperately needed wins in court is georgia trial now indefinitely on pause. >> as the judge overseeing his classified documents case in florida puts off key decisions and agrees to hold a highly unusual hearing on special counsel. jack smith's appointment. cnn's kaitlan, to lance, and cnn's zachary cohn are working. both of these stories from every angle. first to use zachary, does this ensure that the fulton county, georgia case will not happen before the election in november well, today's order makes it official that there is effectively zero chance that donald trump stands trial in georgia before the 2024 election. and look the changes that that happening. we're already slammed, but now this order today from the georgia court of appeals puts all work in the trial court overseen by judge scott mcafee on hold until this issue of whether or not fani willis should be disqualified is resolved by the appeals court. and we do expect a decision on that, won't be made until potentially march 2025. that's when potentially work could pick back up if fani willis is allowed to remain on this case. now, the da's office in georgia in fulton county can appeal this decision by the you it's cord. but the fact that they went explicitly issued this order today when judge scott mcafee had allowed work to continue already, pretty much makes the chances of them accepting an appeal from fani willis very unlikely. and what this does is it underscores how donald trump has really been successful recently and putting prosecutors on their back heels and he did so in georgia by really raising issues about fani willis is personal. life. remember that this whole disqualification issue rose out of allegations that she and her lead prosecutor, nathan wade, had an improper romantic relationship and that she benefited financially from that relationships. got mcafee said that there wasn't enough evidence to show a actual conflict of interest, but did really criticize fani willis in his order for two allowing donald trump and some of his co-defendants to appeal the decision, saying that there was the appearance of a complex. now, the appeals court in georgia will take this issue up, and i want to read trump's lead attorney in the georgia case, steve sadow wrote in reaction to today's order, he said, quote, the georgia court of appeals is properly stayed all proceedings against president trump in the trial court pending is decision on are interlocutory appeal, which argues the case should be dismissed and fulton county da fani willis should be disqualified for her misconduct. now, the da's office is not commenting on the order at this time, but we'll have to see how this does ultimately affect the future of the case. >> zachary cohen. thank you very much. i want to get to new developments right now in another trump case, the judge overseeing the former president classified documents trial is once again pushing off key decisions as she reshuffles the court schedule. let's get details from our senior crime and justice reporter, katelyn polantz, kaitlan. what's behind these changes? >> well, judge aileen cannon, she is reconfiguring that schedule for the late june hearings that she had said she was going to have four days of hearings. now, she's going to have three and they're gonna be different than what she wanted to do before part of this is because there's a lot to do. and judge cannon, it seems very wanting to have everything argued in person before her in that courtroom in fort pierce, florida. well, if that doesn't happen in every case, a lot of judges just make decisions based on legal arguments on the papers, but not judge cannon. what she's going to be doing at that three-day hearing stretching at the end of june, she's going to be hearing about a gag order prosecutors want to place on donald trump limiting his ability to speak about law enforcement while he awaits trial. she's also going to be hearing an a day and a half of arguments around the constitutionality of the special counsel's office, the office of the department that is prosecuting donald trump in this case. >> there are judges across the country have looked at those sorts of challenges. >> in other special counsel criminal cases, and they've waved them away very quickly. >> again, not judge cannon. she wants to have a de and a half hearing, and she also wants to hear from third parties. another really unusual thing, there is just so much to work through not just with that as that cohen was just just noting about georgia no trial date on the schedule there. and there is also not a trial date at this time on the calendar, and it is looking every week more and more unlikely, even impossible for the florida classified documents case against donald trump to go to trial in any months soon? is definitely not before the election because there is just so much the judge cannon still has to do lots of legal wins for the trump legal defense team right now, katelyn polantz. thank you very much. are legal and political experts are joining me now with some analysis and michael moore, let's talk to you first. trump's case in georgia now effectively frozen. as you know? but how significant is this yellow? >> i'm glad to be with all its significant, but i will say that i don't think it is completely unexpected. i mean, frack that the court of appeals looked at several things and they could have been thinking, well, you know, we've got an issue challenge in her qualification to stay on, so we've got to decide that. so there's no more damage done to the case. this could also with the result of the cross appeal that the de a file where she appeal the judge's ruling where he had dismissed certain counts of the indictment. the court of appeals may very well be thinking, look let's know what the actual trial is going to look like. so that if we decide that that needs to be addressed and we don't waste time and the trial court having motions that end up being irrelevant. if some of these caps don't remain the other thing is this is sort of following georgia supreme court precedent. there's a case out of the supreme court that essentially talks about staying these cases when there are challenges to the council and the qualifications of council the choice of councils. so this is not the first time it's not that unusual, but i do think it makes it very clear and it's sort of like white around me thinking that the captain, the cheerleaders asked me to your prompts, about it, just a friendly to tell you. this is not going to happen. well, let me just say this case is not going to happen before the election, and i think at this point, we just sort of accept that, but also not read a lot into the order from the the court because it is not the first time and this is this is typically how you would expect an appeals courts to handle the case. that is to stay the case so that no harb gums to it. there are no more complications as a result of things moving forward that might have to be redone should they decide that in fact, there were some impropriety or that the court order should have been reversed and that the da's there have been qualified michael moore, he knows the law in georgia. well kristen holmes, let me bring you into this conversation. i know you're in phoenix where trump is heading tomorrow to campaign. just how big of a when is this for trump? what are you hearing from his team about this? >> well, i heard from one senior adviser who said they were quote, unquote celebrating. another said they were thrilled as michael just stated, this wasn't that much of a surprise even to trump's team. >> they had long believed that this case was not going to happen or go to trial before that november election. >> but this really solidified that. now, remember, part their tactics have been delayed, delayed delay. they've tried to do that with all four of the cases that he was indicted on, obviously unsuccessfully in new york. but now with that, georgia case being pushed, they are also believing that that florida cases caitlin said will also be pushed beyond the election. the only one that could potentially happen before the november for election now, is that january 6 case in dc now they are hopeful they're optimistic that given the supreme court timing and their announcement on whether or not p has presidential immunity, that that will be late enough to push that again beyond the election are just a reminder you're part of the reason why those delay tactics are if he is pride or if that trials is supposed to happen after he is elected and force all of these are only wins of donald trump becomes the president. it would be hard to put a sitting president on trial in georgia. we also know that federally he could essentially get rid of those cases. so that's why they had those put those tactics in place in the first place. >> alyssa adaptations with us as well, former federal prosecutor, at least you think fani willis will ultimately get disqualified from this case? >> yeah. look, i don't think she will. i think it's important to note that the court of appeals is going to be bound by the trial level record. and remember, judge mcafee did a very good job allowing the defense to develop a very strong record and ultimately, the defense failed to meet their burden to demonstrate that da willis was either had to conflict of interest or had benefited from the appointment of nathan wade. so ultimately, i think in evaluating that transcript, the court of appeals will come to this same conclusion. i don't think there were any errors in judge mcafee is ruling that said, i also think it's important to note that this is a huge blow to fani willis very early on. this seem like the strongest case. they got some very early pleased kenneth chesebro, city pile to name two. and this case had a lot of momentum. and now it has been stopped in its tracks. so disqualified no off the track? yes. >> and that's an important point as well jim trusty, your former trump lawyer. let's talk a little bit about these two wins. these are major legal wins. how big of a when is this retro? >> well, i don't think either is all that shocking. i keep hearing people talking about delay tactics, delay tack this really the reaction i have is the ability of jack smith or fani willis or anybody else to accelerate these cases on an artificial schedule that's dictated by election is being denied. i think fani willis is in trouble most of the time in a conflict case, you don't say pick one and the conflict is solved. you have both people that were a party to the conflict removed. now, i think the judge i'm john, the lower court made some very genteel findings and those factual findings get a lot of respect on appeal so it is a crap shoot in terms of what happens on appeal. but i think there's a chance she gets recused and then there's georgia case law that says the office is recused. that effectively kills that case. >> yeah. was that was let's see if that happens michael moore on the classified documents case in florida, does judge cannon's handling of this case raise any questions for you she has delayed some rulings that i think could have been fairly simple, and i think you would have seen judges maybe who had had a little more experience on the bench, robot quickly or rule from the pleadings at the same time. >> i never reject a chance to get in front of a judge for a hearing. and so she's given the parties a chance to come in and argue the case has argue their points. and i think frankly that's a good thing. i also think this is not an ordinary case and we all want to say this being treated the same. the reality this is not the same thing. this is a former president and these kinds of charges are out here. so the fact that she's having going to have been h right here and she's allowance significant time for arguments. i think that's good. i do think some of the delay i don't think there's anything necessarily nefarious about it. i don't think she's holding back to do anybody any favors. i think it's just a complicated issue and she's got some some some learning on the bench, maybe to do as she goes on. but even the 11th circuit they're not going to disqualify off of the case. and so i think having the hearings is probably a good thing. it does drag it out, it make it st. very unlikely. that case moves forward before the election. and as we've reported many times, trump's team wanted to delay, delay, delay. they're getting these delays of very important decisions so far today, everyone thank you very much. still ahead. what donald trump is saying now about the possibility of jailing his political opponents if he were to win the white house again his allies also sending signals. they want revenge situation room with wolf blitzer. >> he's brought to you by progressive to save when you bundled motorcycle, rv and vote insurance visit progressive.com , you know, when 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in again today, just a short time ago, the former president and his acolytes seemed to be coalescing in an effort to seek retribution for that guilty verdict this was a rigged, disgraceful trial. >> the former president and his allies fuming over his felony conviction in the new york hush money trial are vowing legal revenge against his political opponents in an interview with newsmax, donald trump suggested that if he's reelected, he'd go after president biden and other democrats who he is as falsely blamed for a non-existent conspiracy against him. the trump believes resulted in his indictments in four criminal cases. >> it's a terrible, terrible past that they're leading us to add. it's very possible that it's going to have to happen to them a year ago, trump was more forceful explicitly laying out his plan to go after joe biden. >> i will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president and the history of the united states of america, joe biden within hours of trump's conviction last week, his republican allies claimed worked for retaliation, including trump's former white house doctor and current congressman ronny jackson on newsmax. i am going to encourage all of my colleagues and everybody that i had any influence over as a member of congress to aggressively go after the president and his entire family senator marco rubio, a potential trump running mate, said this today. i'm calling for stronger response at every level. but once you cross these leinz, it's going to be hard to put the genie back in the bottle. >> but another trump ally, house speaker mike johnson, frames it this way. >> this is not retribution. this is about trying to reset the parameters into make the people trust or system again, how much power would trump have to actually do this if he's reelected and aggressive president could pick up the phone and call the attorney general and direct him to prosecute people. >> and as president trump did repeatedly call on the justice department to indict his political enemies. he and his followers have also called for his former presidential opponent, hillary clinton, to be jailed even though she was never charged with a crime. still in the interview with newsmax, trump said this, what did we say? >> terrible to throw the president's wife. and the former secretary state i think of it, the former secretary of state, but the president is the president's wife it did jail, wouldn't that be a terrible analysts worry about the serious ramifications of a trump payback campaign in the white house. >> one big impact of this could be the potential for political violence, which is that they've put a target on judges backs able to target on jurors backs how would justice department prosecutors realistically responded if trump gets back in the white house and tries to prosecute his political opponents analyst elliot williams says they would have two choices followed trump's orders or resign, which he points out some of them did during trump's administration. >> wolf, bryan, todd reporting, brian, thank you very much. >> let's break all of this with our political experts and navarro. welcome to the situation and what's your reaction to this revenge tour that trump and his allies are not talking about i think it's really worrisome, and i think it's really worrisome because we already saw with the effect of trump's words, that words have trump and his acolytes and his minions have had on america. >> we saw it when we saw a guide dr. thousands of miles to a walmart and el paso. and shoot down latinos. we saw on january 6. so we already know that trump's words have been effect of igniting political violence. and i think it's incredibly reckless, an irresponsible to put a target on the backs of jury's on the backs of the judge. we've seen violence against judges in america. it is very reckless and irresponsible. i'm incredibly i believe disappointed. i don't expect much different from trump. i do expect different from some of these republicans that have become part and parcel to this insanity. >> sure. michael surrogates is with us as well. how much is it? where are you issue by gonna be here, republicans now talking about potentially making up cases to go after their political opponents. >> i mean, i'm worried wolf up, but i get the politics. i'm more worried about the actual voters themselves as some of the examples and anna just raised i think that we're seeing a huge disconnectedness with many trump's supporters who just don't feel that they're part of this process at all. >> they look at some of these trials and from their perspective, not my person spective. >> they do believe is somehow a which khan or law fair. and i don't believe we're sort of resetting the conversation for those individuals because politicians are motivated by the people who vote for them and. so if republican voters who said, hey, we want to move on, then republicans would say, yeah, let's move on so my concern, it's the people. and is that one or two rogue actors out there who may follow some of this rhetoric and do something very dangerous. >> yeah, it's interesting. david chugging euro cnn political director. it's really fascinating all of this is happening as there's massive fundraising success story happening for trump and his pack and his allies. what has super pac just raised? what another $70 million just in may on top of the campaign's hundred and 40 billion that that was raised in may. yeah, we saw some of this last year with the indictments. >> this fortification of the republican base and a surge of donations to trump entities, some of which he uses to pay his legal bills for his political efforts. we're seeing it on steroids after the conviction on 34 counts 141 million with the rnc and the campaign combined last month, and that's just unheard of. and over a third of that was raised in the 24 hours after the conviction. same thing from the super pac. what i thought was most interesting about the super pac announcement of the 70 million, was there narrowing of the map of where they're going to target those resources, wolf, while there are seven states across the country that will see the book of activity, they circled pennsylvania as the, as the state that they believe will be determinative in this election. >> how. should democrats actually prepare to defend against this? >> well, there's a couple of things. one, i know the campaign is ramping up. they have staffing, hundreds of staff in the battleground states that david, including pennsylvania, because that was the deciding state lasts in 2020 this is why democrats continue to talk about democracy for a lot of voters, democracy feels like this opaque experience. it might not always work for voters of color are voters younger voters, and their interaction with it feels distant, but democrats should continue to talk about this, but break it down in trump's words, democracy is when some somebody who was against you uses their first amendment right and then you prosecute them. that's what we're talking about when we say democracy is at risk. i think they need to continue to talk about that. they need to continue to fund raise like they have invited him, has had some historical fundraising, but not matching what trump is, but they're going to have to target their voters in every single way, not do a one sided yes, but it's all for the constituencies to build that coalition, but really paint the stakes of joe biden and donald trump are not the lesser of two evils. they are very distinct people who have different views on how the future of our country should know. >> you talk about recalibrating the narrative night i have a hard time coming up with a narrative that more proves the point that this is not a joe biden conspiracy than the fact that his son is being tried, right now by a federal court, right? not by state court, like tried trump. so i think that when you look if you turn on tv and you see the democrat senator from new jersey, bob menendez in court being tried in a federal court, he could have easily won reelection if you turn on tv and you see the first lady of the united states sitting there supporting her son as he is tried in federal court. how then do you argue in the same breath? that joe biden directed this trial against donald trump. now what a state trial, i mean, it just it you have to really bend logic into pretzel shapes. >> the manhattan district attorney's me. >> i think that's a fair point, but but what that point in mind politically, this race is incredibly close. and whatever criticisms one may want to throw out the form for president, he still neck and neck some tie, some stats rather say that he's appointed to a head within the margin of error. i do believe that there are a lot of voters out there who do not feel that the past four years, i've worked for them, particularly on issues of the academy. i think a lot of people in dc and on the east coast have 11 of hubris about with the arrow coverage person has experienced. and i think that's why president biden is struggling despite what a lot of democrats were lot as these are a plethora of successes that have done well for african-americans, latino voters are younger voters and all of those voters is still saying yet, we don't fill it, we don't see it and that's a problem, but that's not what republicans are doing now, if they they want to have an argument about the issues, let's have it what they're doing is saying that if you try and go against me, i'm going to seek retribution. >> and if the senators and congressmen that were in the piece before were to say, no, we don't think that you should do that, but they're not saying that they're not talking about the economy. >> they're talking about falling in line, kissing the ring, and seeking the retribution that their leader donald trump than they have nominated to be the presumptive republican nominee. >> that's an issue and it's having the desired effect. because if you look at the polling on the issue of democracy, it does rank high as an important issue, but it actually splits kind of evenly between republicans and democrats both see it as an important an issue from their perspective, which couldn't be more divergent even think that the president united states has to deliver a speech supporting democracy who would have thought in america, yeah, that would have thought that was even possible. >> all right, guys. thank you very, very much. when we return president biden is facing a new test on the world stage as the new port is spotlighting questions about his age and mental fitness standby the increase in wildfires is exponential unpredictable uncontrollable, with overwhelming kotb the need to do something is urgent with earth, would we have schreiber sunday? >> i want cnn whatever your business needs, vista print and print it. >> yeah, this sprint, like rachel needed fund packaging. so this 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that they're new questions. it's not breaking news that he's 81-years-old, right. and then president clearly moves slower and has perhaps some more verbal slip-ups than he did as vice president 15 years ago. that's certainly true. but what the wall street journal was reporting based on 45 conversations were some specific meetings where they talked to and as they include in their reporting, mostly republicans. so the political opponents of the president, saying that they saw some slippage in him. democrats came out in force. many of them said they talked to the wall street journal, the boston journal didn't include their quotes to say that was not there impression at all. again, i think the core here is the overall tenor of the pieces kind what you see in public about joe biden, there are some days where he's like really strong and on his game and very forceful and some days where he doesn't seem that way and it seems that that is basically the account here as well. we should note the white house spokesman, andrew bates, put out a statement in response to the wall street journal story quote, congressional republicans, foreign leaders, and nonpartisan national security experts have made clear in their own words that president biden is a savvy and effective leader who has a deep record of legislative accomplishment. now, in 2024, house republicans are making false claims as a political tactic that flatly contradict previous statements made by themselves and their colleagues notably pointing to some of kevin mccarthy statements he's really the only on the record person in the story where previously he had commended the president's acuity and some of these meetings that now is saying something different. >> actually, how much will a president biden's message on the world stage this week and he's going to be delivering a major speech in normandy how much will that actually break through? when he's dogged by all of these international crises that are underway right now. whether ukraine, israel, middle east, gaza, and all of that. and there are also now these other questions about his mental fitness i don't know how much it will break through. >> honestly, we will have to wait and see. i do think though it's still important to do it because because of who we are in the world stage, america, the greatest democracy that is yet so was so close to falling on january 6. i also think the irony is that he's going to commemorate d-day, the fall of dictators, the fall of a dictator. >> and yet his opponent on day one claims he wants to be a dictator. >> so that contrast is really important. we'll let break through this weekend. no. but then should people take that information, who are running campaigns and put that out and draw that comparison for the american people over and over and over again. i think that's important you cannot can i say something to you? >> so i was actually at one of the events with joe biden, one of the fund fundraisers in new york that is referenced in the story. it was in front of a group of latino doctors at the at a hotel in manhattan and he must have spoken 43035 minutes within those 35 minutes, he confused the name of the german chancellor. >> he said the wrong name i think that if you start nitpicking and taking out of context and looking for errors. i'm not sure any of us what pass that test. and so that's the one instance i can attest to. the guy spoke fine for 30 minutes. he made one slip-up and they're focusing on that. if that's the kind of thing that they're basing this, this entire article on. then in frankly it's very misleading and i'd like to say that will probably could get the same number of slip hopes for donald trump and practically for anybody else including us. >> but we are sure mark, let me reaction the gate though, that it is a real concern for voters time and again, will absolutely see that voters have, and they have a greater concern about joe biden's age than they do about donald trump's, even though they're 3.5 years apart. so i don't want to like undercut what is actually one of the biggest vulnerable abilities for joe biden, even as we discussed what listened joe biden spent an hour every morning getting his hair together and putting makeup on. he looked a little less old. >> it's a serious issue for the president. he had a great moment at the state of the union. it gave him a temporary bump and the poles where democrats were reinvigorated didn't i felt this is still our guy and who we are what? 9,000 plus days later and people are looking at the president again, no thinking will kenny continue to do this job for another four years because of his age, you also throne with his son is going through and trying to mix that with the politics, but he has a father and i don't think there's a parent out there who wouldn't be worried about their child if they were going through what's the delaware case. you also have the pending case in california with not paying federal taxes so these are some serious things that people are going to keep my mind and say, well is the president capable of leading with all of these issues domestically, internationally? and that doesn't mean that they're going to necessarily vote for donald trump, but it does mean for democrats that you can have a lot of voters that they need that could stay home and that's a problem. >> but i thought was interesting. he does have a son that is isn't going through a trial right now. and i think anyone who has ever interacted with a friend or a family member who was an addict you can have a real level of empathy because it is a disease. and i think what was so unique about joe biden yesterday or monday when the trial started, was the sentence that he are the statement he put out is that i'm a president, but i am also a dad. that's not what you get from donald trump, the week before you have the former president who is a porn star, hush money you payment, and then you have someone saying, yeah, my son's not perfect, but i'm a dad and i love them and i'm going to stick by them. >> that's the contrast is still passion certainly matters actually, but the point that i'm trying to make is when you put and when you think in terms of people being worried about the former are the current president and his mental acuity, then you throw in an 81-year-old worried about his son, which he should be, he is a father. >> everyone understands that kenny continue to do the job when he's gonna be what close to 86 by the end of the second term, i do think some voters back question every of every parent who's worried about an addicted child right now, i had to give up their job. there'll be a lot of unfilled jobs in america i think you're right. i'm just simply saying from the voter's perspective, we see it in the data. >> what people are saying, i think this age thing as a double-edge sword in a way, or it's a double-sided coin, maybe is a better way to do it because what happens is that it lowers the expectations vis-a-vis joe biden so much that when he shows up to a state of the union and doesn't die behind the podium. it's good night because they've lowered the expectations, so i think this actually in some ways works for him if he can show up at the debate trump did say the age shouldn't matter. >> the former president listens let's give them both in a cool way to test. >> let's put them both on a treadmill, the one that dies first all right. >> for you, i want to say thanks thanks interesting discussion. just the head hunter biden's ex-wife and his former girlfriend, take the stand in his gun trial offering graphic testimony about his history of drug abuse the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president one state moderated by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debate thursday, june 27th, nine live on cnn and streaming unmatched the rise thank discovered our newest resorts, sandi 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were no drugs in it but when asked if she ever saw hunter used drugs, she said she had not. next step was an ex girlfriend who he first met at a gentleman's club in manhattan where she worked in late 2017, and the two spent long stretches together in hotels in 2018 or she observed his drug use he would smoke every 20 minutes or so and he would want to smoke as soon as he woke up. she also testified that hunters demeanor never changed even after he smoked crack. he was super charming. everybody loved him. she testified that she saw hunter doing drugs as late as mid september 2018, several weeks before he bought the gun the heart of the case, but under cross-examination, she said she had no idea what hunter was doing, which means september and november, which covers the month hunter bought the firearm, gordon cleveland, the gunshot employee who sold hunter biden the gun, took the stand next and testified how hunter came into the store looking for firearm. he testified he told hunter to read the atf background form carefully and saw him check? no. next to the question about whether he was an addict or used illegal drugs, the alleged lie at the center of the case on cross-examination. defense attorney abbe lowell got that employee to admit that he was a quote, whale hunters to someone who tried to upsell hello, customers to buy more expensive guns. and this contradicts his grand jury testimony to definitely a point scored, thereby, the defense and they will continue their cross-examination chen, tomorrow, prosecutors say they have about six more witnesses, but at this point, well, if we still expect this trial to go into early next week paula reid outside the courthouse in wilmington, delaware thank you very much coming up an exclusive look at the effort to recover the remains of american service members in france 80 years after d-day. we'll be right back sometimes the best thing you can do with intelligence is shared with your adversary. >> if his secret is betrayed 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report under the scorching sun in normandy, france the work is grueling an excavator carefully digs through the dry form land soil some shovel by hand cnn has been granted exclusive access to this government dig site as team members collect buckets of earth to be screened and washed but they search for can be tiny, but precious aircraft. see buckles possible headset fragments from an air crew number. you are about to embark on 80 years since the allied invasion of normandy mark the beginning of the end of world war ii the world are upon you more than 72,000 american service members are still unaccounted for the defense pow mia accounting agency sole mission is to recover and return missing service members. >> buried beneath this french farm. they've made an incredible discovery. >> we believe this to be a c 47 crashed. >> and in looking for any sign of the three-year men who went down with the plane and remain unaccounted for today, captain brian fox report says his team found what 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just sit in there like a big, juicy happening now, breaking news the election subversion case against donald trump in georgia was just put on hold indefinitely. >> the state appeals court ordering the pause until it rules on the latest effort to get district attorney fani willis disqualified from the case also tonight, trump is renewing is threat to seek revenge for his criminal convic york, the former president turned felons, suggesting he may prosecute and even j hill his political opponents, if he returns to the white house, plus resident biden lands and france just ahead of the d-day anniversary, amy, to show global leadership and draw a stark contrast with trump, will the president's message gets through as the white house is rushing to dispute a new report about his mental fitness welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i will blitzer a year in this situation room the. skis, cnn breaking news first up tonight, the breaking news, donald trump scores to desperately needed wins in court is georgia trial now indefinitely on pause. >> as the judge overseeing his classified documents case in florida puts off key decisions and agrees to hold a highly unusual hearing on special counsel. jack smith's appointment. cnn's kaitlan, to lance, and cnn's zachary cohn are working. both of these stories from every angle. first to use zachary, does this ensure that the fulton county, georgia case will not happen before the election in november well, today's order makes it official that there is effectively zero chance that donald trump stands trial in georgia before the 2024 election. and look the changes that that happening. we're already slammed, but now this order today from the georgia court of appeals puts all work in the trial court overseen by judge scott mcafee on hold until this issue of whether or not fani willis should be disqualified is resolved by the appeals court. and we do expect a decision on that, won't be made until potentially march 2025. that's when potentially work could pick back up if fani willis is allowed to remain on this case. now, the da's office in georgia in fulton county can appeal this decision by the you it's cord. but the fact that they went explicitly issued this order today when judge scott mcafee had allowed work to continue already, pretty much makes the chances of them accepting an appeal from fani willis very unlikely. and what this does is it underscores how donald trump has really been successful recently and putting prosecutors on their back heels and he did so in georgia by really raising issues about fani willis is personal. life. remember that this whole disqualification issue rose out of allegations that she and her lead prosecutor, nathan wade, had an improper romantic relationship and that she benefited financially from that relationships. got mcafee said that there wasn't enough evidence to show a actual conflict of interest, but did really criticize fani willis in his order for two allowing donald trump and some of his co-defendants to appeal the decision, saying that there was the appearance of a complex. now, the appeals court in georgia will take this issue up, and i want to read trump's lead attorney in the georgia case, steve sadow wrote in reaction to today's order, he said, quote, the georgia court of appeals is properly stayed all proceedings against president trump in the trial court pending is decision on are interlocutory appeal, which argues the case should be dismissed and fulton county da fani willis should be disqualified for her misconduct. now, the da's office is not commenting on the order at this time, but we'll have to see how this does ultimately affect the future of the case. >> zachary cohen. thank you very much. i want to get to new developments right now in another trump case, the judge overseeing the former president classified documents trial is once again pushing off key decisions as she reshuffles the court schedule. let's get details from our senior crime and justice reporter, katelyn polantz, kaitlan. what's behind these changes? >> well, judge aileen cannon, she is reconfiguring that schedule for the late june hearings that she had said she was going to have four days of hearings. now, she's going to have three and they're gonna be different than what she wanted to do before part of this is because there's a lot to do. and judge cannon, it seems very wanting to have everything argued in person before her in that courtroom in fort pierce, florida. well, if that doesn't happen in every case, a lot of judges just make decisions based on legal arguments on the papers, but not judge cannon. what she's going to be doing at that three-day hearing stretching at the end of june, she's going to be hearing about a gag order prosecutors want to place on donald trump limiting his ability to speak about law enforcement while he awaits trial. she's also going to be hearing an a day and a half of arguments around the constitutionality of the special counsel's office, the office of the department that is prosecuting donald trump in this case. >> there are judges across the country have looked at those sorts of challenges. >> in other special counsel criminal cases, and they've waved them away very quickly. >> again, not judge cannon. she wants to have a de and a half hearing, and she also wants to hear from third parties. another really unusual thing, there is just so much to work through not just with that as that cohen was just just noting about georgia no trial date on the schedule there. and there is also not a trial date at this time on the calendar, and it is looking every week more and more unlikely, even impossible for the florida classified documents case against donald trump to go to trial in any months soon? is definitely not before the election because there is just so much the judge cannon still has to do lots of legal wins for the trump legal defense team right now, katelyn polantz. thank you very much. are legal and political experts are joining me now with some analysis and michael moore, let's talk to you first. trump's case in georgia now effectively frozen. as you know? but how significant is this yellow? >> i'm glad to be with all its significant, but i will say that i don't think it is completely unexpected. i mean, frack that the court of appeals looked at several things and they could have been thinking, well, you know, we've got an issue challenge in her qualification to stay on, so we've got to decide that. so there's no more damage done to the case. this could also with the result of the cross appeal that the de a file where she appeal the judge's ruling where he had dismissed certain counts of the indictment. the court of appeals may very well be thinking, look let's know what the actual trial is going to look like. so that if we decide that that needs to be addressed and we don't waste time and the trial court having motions that end up being irrelevant. if some of these caps don't remain the other thing is this is sort of following georgia supreme court precedent. there's a case out of the supreme court that essentially talks about staying these cases when there are challenges to the council and the qualifications of council the choice of councils. so this is not the first time it's not that unusual, but i do think it makes it very clear and it's sort of like white around me thinking that the captain, the cheerleaders asked me to your prompts, about it, just a friendly to tell you. this is not going to happen. well, let me just say this case is not going to happen before the election, and i think at this point, we just sort of accept that, but also not read a lot into the order from the the court because it is not the first time and this is this is typically how you would expect an appeals courts to handle the case. that is to stay the case so that no harb gums to it. there are no more complications as a result of things moving forward that might have to be redone should they decide that in fact, there were some impropriety or that the court order should have been reversed and that the da's there have been qualified michael moore, he knows the law in georgia. well kristen holmes, let me bring you into this conversation. i know you're in phoenix where trump is heading tomorrow to campaign. just how big of a when is this for trump? what are you hearing from his team about this? >> well, i heard from one senior adviser who said they were quote, unquote celebrating. another said they were thrilled as michael just stated, this wasn't that much of a surprise even to trump's team. >> they had long believed that this case was not going to happen or go to trial before that november election. >> but this really solidified that. now, remember, part their tactics have been delayed, delayed delay. they've tried to do that with all four of the cases that he was indicted on, obviously unsuccessfully in new york. but now with that, georgia case being pushed, they are also believing that that florida cases caitlin said will also be pushed beyond the election. the only one that could potentially happen before the november for election now, is that january 6 case in dc now they are hopeful they're optimistic that given the supreme court timing and their announcement on whether or not p has presidential immunity, that that will be late enough to push that again beyond the election are just a reminder you're part of the reason why those delay tactics are if he is pride or if that trials is supposed to happen after he is elected and force all of these are only wins of donald trump becomes the president. it would be hard to put a sitting president on trial in georgia. we also know that federally he could essentially get rid of those cases. so that's why they had those put those tactics in place in the first place. >> alyssa adaptations with us as well, former federal prosecutor, at least you think fani willis will ultimately get disqualified from this case? >> yeah. look, i don't think she will. i think it's important to note that the court of appeals is going to be bound by the trial level record. and remember, judge mcafee did a very good job allowing the defense to develop a very strong record and ultimately, the defense failed to meet their burden to demonstrate that da willis was either had to conflict of interest or had benefited from the appointment of nathan wade. so ultimately, i think in evaluating that transcript, the court of appeals will come to this same conclusion. i don't think there were any errors in judge mcafee is ruling that said, i also think it's important to note that this is a huge blow to fani willis very early on. this seem like the strongest case. they got some very early pleased kenneth chesebro, city pile to name two. and this case had a lot of momentum. and now it has been stopped in its tracks. so disqualified no off the track? yes. >> and that's an important point as well jim trusty, your former trump lawyer. let's talk a little bit about these two wins. these are major legal wins. how big of a when is this retro? >> well, i don't think either is all that shocking. i keep hearing people talking about delay tactics, delay tack this really the reaction i have is the ability of jack smith or fani willis or anybody else to accelerate these cases on an artificial schedule that's dictated by election is being denied. i think fani willis is in trouble most of the time in a conflict case, you don't say pick one and the conflict is solved. you have both people that were a party to the conflict removed. now, i think the judge i'm john, the lower court made some very genteel findings and those factual findings get a lot of respect on appeal so it is a crap shoot in terms of what happens on appeal. but i think there's a chance she gets recused and then there's georgia case law that says the office is recused. that effectively kills that case. >> yeah. was that was let's see if that happens michael moore on the classified documents case in florida, does judge cannon's handling of this case raise any questions for you she has delayed some rulings that i think could have been fairly simple, and i think you would have seen judges maybe who had had a little more experience on the bench, robot quickly or rule from the pleadings at the same time. >> i never reject a chance to get in front of a judge for a hearing. and so she's given the parties a chance to come in and argue the case has argue their points. and i think frankly that's a good thing. i also think this is not an ordinary case and we all want to say this being treated the same. the reality this is not the same thing. this is a former president and these kinds of charges are out here. so the fact that she's having going to have been h right here and she's allowance significant time for arguments. i think that's good. i do think some of the delay i don't think there's anything necessarily nefarious about it. i don't think she's holding back to do anybody any favors. i think it's just a complicated issue and she's got some some some learning on the bench, maybe to do as she goes on. but even the 11th circuit they're not going to disqualify off of the case. and so i think having the hearings is probably a good thing. it does drag it out, it make it st. very unlikely. that case moves forward before the election. and as we've reported many times, trump's team wanted to delay, delay, delay. they're getting these delays of very important decisions so far today, everyone thank you very much. still ahead. what donald trump is saying now about the possibility of jailing his political opponents if he were to win the white house again his allies also sending signals. they want revenge situation room with wolf blitzer. >> he's brought to you by progressive to save when you bundled motorcycle, rv and vote insurance visit progressive.com , you know, when 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in again today, just a short time ago, the former president and his acolytes seemed to be coalescing in an effort to seek retribution for that guilty verdict this was a rigged, disgraceful trial. >> the former president and his allies fuming over his felony conviction in the new york hush money trial are vowing legal revenge against his political opponents in an interview with newsmax, donald trump suggested that if he's reelected, he'd go after president biden and other democrats who he is as falsely blamed for a non-existent conspiracy against him. the trump believes resulted in his indictments in four criminal cases. >> it's a terrible, terrible past that they're leading us to add. it's very possible that it's going to have to happen to them a year ago, trump was more forceful explicitly laying out his plan to go after joe biden. >> i will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president and the history of the united states of america, joe biden within hours of trump's conviction last week, his republican allies claimed worked for retaliation, including trump's former white house doctor and current congressman ronny jackson on newsmax. i am going to encourage all of my colleagues and everybody that i had any influence over as a member of congress to aggressively go after the president and his entire family senator marco rubio, a potential trump running mate, said this today. i'm calling for stronger response at every level. but once you cross these leinz, it's going to be hard to put the genie back in the bottle. >> but another trump ally, house speaker mike johnson, frames it this way. >> this is not retribution. this is about trying to reset the parameters into make the people trust or system again, how much power would trump have to actually do this if he's reelected and aggressive president could pick up the phone and call the attorney general and direct him to prosecute people. >> and as president trump did repeatedly call on the justice department to indict his political enemies. he and his followers have also called for his former presidential opponent, hillary clinton, to be jailed even though she was never charged with a crime. still in the interview with newsmax, trump said this, what did we say? >> terrible to throw the president's wife. and the former secretary state i think of it, the former secretary of state, but the president is the president's wife it did jail, wouldn't that be a terrible analysts worry about the serious ramifications of a trump payback campaign in the white house. >> one big impact of this could be the potential for political violence, which is that they've put a target on judges backs able to target on jurors backs how would justice department prosecutors realistically responded if trump gets back in the white house and tries to prosecute his political opponents analyst elliot williams says they would have two choices followed trump's orders or resign, which he points out some of them did during trump's administration. >> wolf, bryan, todd reporting, brian, thank you very much. >> let's break all of this with our political experts and navarro. welcome to the situation and what's your reaction to this revenge tour that trump and his allies are not talking about i think it's really worrisome, and i think it's really worrisome because we already saw with the effect of trump's words, that words have trump and his acolytes and his minions have had on america. >> we saw it when we saw a guide dr. thousands of miles to a walmart and el paso. and shoot down latinos. we saw on january 6. so we already know that trump's words have been effect of igniting political violence. and i think it's incredibly reckless, an irresponsible to put a target on the backs of jury's on the backs of the judge. we've seen violence against judges in america. it is very reckless and irresponsible. i'm incredibly i believe disappointed. i don't expect much different from trump. i do expect different from some of these republicans that have become part and parcel to this insanity. >> sure. michael surrogates is with us as well. how much is it? where are you issue by gonna be here, republicans now talking about potentially making up cases to go after their political opponents. >> i mean, i'm worried wolf up, but i get the politics. i'm more worried about the actual voters themselves as some of the examples and anna just raised i think that we're seeing a huge disconnectedness with many trump's supporters who just don't feel that they're part of this process at all. >> they look at some of these trials and from their perspective, not my person spective. >> they do believe is somehow a which khan or law fair. and i don't believe we're sort of resetting the conversation for those individuals because politicians are motivated by the people who vote for them and. so if republican voters who said, hey, we want to move on, then republicans would say, yeah, let's move on so my concern, it's the people. and is that one or two rogue actors out there who may follow some of this rhetoric and do something very dangerous. >> yeah, it's interesting. david chugging euro cnn political director. it's really fascinating all of this is happening as there's massive fundraising success story happening for trump and his pack and his allies. what has super pac just raised? what another $70 million just in may on top of the campaign's hundred and 40 billion that that was raised in may. yeah, we saw some of this last year with the indictments. >> this fortification of the republican base and a surge of donations to trump entities, some of which he uses to pay his legal bills for his political efforts. we're seeing it on steroids after the conviction on 34 counts 141 million with the rnc and the campaign combined last month, and that's just unheard of. and over a third of that was raised in the 24 hours after the conviction. same thing from the super pac. what i thought was most interesting about the super pac announcement of the 70 million, was there narrowing of the map of where they're going to target those resources, wolf, while there are seven states across the country that will see the book of activity, they circled pennsylvania as the, as the state that they believe will be determinative in this election. >> how. should democrats actually prepare to defend against this? >> well, there's a couple of things. one, i know the campaign is ramping up. they have staffing, hundreds of staff in the battleground states that david, including pennsylvania, because that was the deciding state lasts in 2020 this is why democrats continue to talk about democracy for a lot of voters, democracy feels like this opaque experience. it might not always work for voters of color are voters younger voters, and their interaction with it feels distant, but democrats should continue to talk about this, but break it down in trump's words, democracy is when some somebody who was against you uses their first amendment right and then you prosecute them. that's what we're talking about when we say democracy is at risk. i think they need to continue to talk about that. they need to continue to fund raise like they have invited him, has had some historical fundraising, but not matching what trump is, but they're going to have to target their voters in every single way, not do a one sided yes, but it's all for the constituencies to build that coalition, but really paint the stakes of joe biden and donald trump are not the lesser of two evils. they are very distinct people who have different views on how the future of our country should know. >> you talk about recalibrating the narrative night i have a hard time coming up with a narrative that more proves the point that this is not a joe biden conspiracy than the fact that his son is being tried, right now by a federal court, right? not by state court, like tried trump. so i think that when you look if you turn on tv and you see the democrat senator from new jersey, bob menendez in court being tried in a federal court, he could have easily won reelection if you turn on tv and you see the first lady of the united states sitting there supporting her son as he is tried in federal court. how then do you argue in the same breath? that joe biden directed this trial against donald trump. now what a state trial, i mean, it just it you have to really bend logic into pretzel shapes. >> the manhattan district attorney's me. >> i think that's a fair point, but but what that point in mind politically, this race is incredibly close. and whatever criticisms one may want to throw out the form for president, he still neck and neck some tie, some stats rather say that he's appointed to a head within the margin of error. i do believe that there are a lot of voters out there who do not feel that the past four years, i've worked for them, particularly on issues of the academy. i think a lot of people in dc and on the east coast have 11 of hubris about with the arrow coverage person has experienced. and i think that's why president biden is struggling despite what a lot of democrats were lot as these are a plethora of successes that have done well for african-americans, latino voters are younger voters and all of those voters is still saying yet, we don't fill it, we don't see it and that's a problem, but that's not what republicans are doing now, if they they want to have an argument about the issues, let's have it what they're doing is saying that if you try and go against me, i'm going to seek retribution. >> and if the senators and congressmen that were in the piece before were to say, no, we don't think that you should do that, but they're not saying that they're not talking about the economy. >> they're talking about falling in line, kissing the ring, and seeking the retribution that their leader donald trump than they have nominated to be the presumptive republican nominee. >> that's an issue and it's having the desired effect. because if you look at the polling on the issue of democracy, it does rank high as an important issue, but it actually splits kind of evenly between republicans and democrats both see it as an important an issue from their perspective, which couldn't be more divergent even think that the president united states has to deliver a speech supporting democracy who would have thought in america, yeah, that would have thought that was even possible. >> all right, guys. thank you very, very much. when we return president biden is facing a new test on the world stage as the new port is spotlighting questions about his age and mental fitness standby the increase in wildfires is exponential unpredictable uncontrollable, with overwhelming kotb the need to do something is urgent with earth, would we have schreiber sunday? >> i want cnn whatever your business needs, vista print and print it. >> yeah, this sprint, like rachel needed fund packaging. so this 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that they're new questions. it's not breaking news that he's 81-years-old, right. and then president clearly moves slower and has perhaps some more verbal slip-ups than he did as vice president 15 years ago. that's certainly true. but what the wall street journal was reporting based on 45 conversations were some specific meetings where they talked to and as they include in their reporting, mostly republicans. so the political opponents of the president, saying that they saw some slippage in him. democrats came out in force. many of them said they talked to the wall street journal, the boston journal didn't include their quotes to say that was not there impression at all. again, i think the core here is the overall tenor of the pieces kind what you see in public about joe biden, there are some days where he's like really strong and on his game and very forceful and some days where he doesn't seem that way and it seems that that is basically the account here as well. we should note the white house spokesman, andrew bates, put out a statement in response to the wall street journal story quote, congressional republicans, foreign leaders, and nonpartisan national security experts have made clear in their own words that president biden is a savvy and effective leader who has a deep record of legislative accomplishment. now, in 2024, house republicans are making false claims as a political tactic that flatly contradict previous statements made by themselves and their colleagues notably pointing to some of kevin mccarthy statements he's really the only on the record person in the story where previously he had commended the president's acuity and some of these meetings that now is saying something different. >> actually, how much will a president biden's message on the world stage this week and he's going to be delivering a major speech in normandy how much will that actually break through? when he's dogged by all of these international crises that are underway right now. whether ukraine, israel, middle east, gaza, and all of that. and there are also now these other questions about his mental fitness i don't know how much it will break through. >> honestly, we will have to wait and see. i do think though it's still important to do it because because of who we are in the world stage, america, the greatest democracy that is yet so was so close to falling on january 6. i also think the irony is that he's going to commemorate d-day, the fall of dictators, the fall of a dictator. >> and yet his opponent on day one claims he wants to be a dictator. >> so that contrast is really important. we'll let break through this weekend. no. but then should people take that information, who are running campaigns and put that out and draw that comparison for the american people over and over and over again. i think that's important you cannot can i say something to you? >> so i was actually at one of the events with joe biden, one of the fund fundraisers in new york that is referenced in the story. it was in front of a group of latino doctors at the at a hotel in manhattan and he must have spoken 43035 minutes within those 35 minutes, he confused the name of the german chancellor. >> he said the wrong name i think that if you start nitpicking and taking out of context and looking for errors. i'm not sure any of us what pass that test. and so that's the one instance i can attest to. the guy spoke fine for 30 minutes. he made one slip-up and they're focusing on that. if that's the kind of thing that they're basing this, this entire article on. then in frankly it's very misleading and i'd like to say that will probably could get the same number of slip hopes for donald trump and practically for anybody else including us. >> but we are sure mark, let me reaction the gate though, that it is a real concern for voters time and again, will absolutely see that voters have, and they have a greater concern about joe biden's age than they do about donald trump's, even though they're 3.5 years apart. so i don't want to like undercut what is actually one of the biggest vulnerable abilities for joe biden, even as we discussed what listened joe biden spent an hour every morning getting his hair together and putting makeup on. he looked a little less old. >> it's a serious issue for the president. he had a great moment at the state of the union. it gave him a temporary bump and the poles where democrats were reinvigorated didn't i felt this is still our guy and who we are what? 9,000 plus days later and people are looking at the president again, no thinking will kenny continue to do this job for another four years because of his age, you also throne with his son is going through and trying to mix that with the politics, but he has a father and i don't think there's a parent out there who wouldn't be worried about their child if they were going through what's the delaware case. you also have the pending case in california with not paying federal taxes so these are some serious things that people are going to keep my mind and say, well is the president capable of leading with all of these issues domestically, internationally? and that doesn't mean that they're going to necessarily vote for donald trump, but it does mean for democrats that you can have a lot of voters that they need that could stay home and that's a problem. >> but i thought was interesting. he does have a son that is isn't going through a trial right now. and i think anyone who has ever interacted with a friend or a family member who was an addict you can have a real level of empathy because it is a disease. and i think what was so unique about joe biden yesterday or monday when the trial started, was the sentence that he are the statement he put out is that i'm a president, but i am also a dad. that's not what you get from donald trump, the week before you have the former president who is a porn star, hush money you payment, and then you have someone saying, yeah, my son's not perfect, but i'm a dad and i love them and i'm going to stick by them. >> that's the contrast is still passion certainly matters actually, but the point that i'm trying to make is when you put and when you think in terms of people being worried about the former are the current president and his mental acuity, then you throw in an 81-year-old worried about his son, which he should be, he is a father. >> everyone understands that kenny continue to do the job when he's gonna be what close to 86 by the end of the second term, i do think some voters back question every of every parent who's worried about an addicted child right now, i had to give up their job. there'll be a lot of unfilled jobs in america i think you're right. i'm just simply saying from the voter's perspective, we see it in the data. >> what people are saying, i think this age thing as a double-edge sword in a way, or it's a double-sided coin, maybe is a better way to do it because what happens is that it lowers the expectations vis-a-vis joe biden so much that when he shows up to a state of the union and doesn't die behind the podium. it's good night because they've lowered the expectations, so i think this actually in some ways works for him if he can show up at the debate trump did say the age shouldn't matter. >> the former president listens let's give them both in a cool way to test. >> let's put them both on a treadmill, the one that dies first all right. >> for you, i want to say thanks thanks interesting discussion. just the head hunter biden's ex-wife and his former girlfriend, take the stand in his gun trial offering graphic testimony about his history of drug abuse the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president one state moderated by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debate thursday, june 27th, nine live on cnn and streaming unmatched the rise thank discovered our newest resorts, sandi 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were no drugs in it but when asked if she ever saw hunter used drugs, she said she had not. next step was an ex girlfriend who he first met at a gentleman's club in manhattan where she worked in late 2017, and the two spent long stretches together in hotels in 2018 or she observed his drug use he would smoke every 20 minutes or so and he would want to smoke as soon as he woke up. she also testified that hunters demeanor never changed even after he smoked crack. he was super charming. everybody loved him. she testified that she saw hunter doing drugs as late as mid september 2018, several weeks before he bought the gun the heart of the case, but under cross-examination, she said she had no idea what hunter was doing, which means september and november, which covers the month hunter bought the firearm, gordon cleveland, the gunshot employee who sold hunter biden the gun, took the stand next and testified how hunter came into the store looking for firearm. he testified he told hunter to read the atf background form carefully and saw him check? no. next to the question about whether he was an addict or used illegal drugs, the alleged lie at the center of the case on cross-examination. defense attorney abbe lowell got that employee to admit that he was a quote, whale hunters to someone who tried to upsell hello, customers to buy more expensive guns. and this contradicts his grand jury testimony to definitely a point scored, thereby, the defense and they will continue their cross-examination chen, tomorrow, prosecutors say they have about six more witnesses, but at this point, well, if we still expect this trial to go into early next week paula reid outside the courthouse in wilmington, delaware thank you very much coming up an exclusive look at the effort to recover the remains of american service members in france 80 years after d-day. we'll be right back sometimes the best thing you can do with intelligence is shared with your adversary. >> if his secret is betrayed 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report under the scorching sun in normandy, france the work is grueling an excavator carefully digs through the dry form land soil some shovel by hand cnn has been granted exclusive access to this government dig site as team members collect buckets of earth to be screened and washed but they search for can be tiny, but precious aircraft. see buckles possible headset fragments from an air crew number. you are about to embark on 80 years since the allied invasion of normandy mark the beginning of the end of world war ii the world are upon you more than 72,000 american service members are still unaccounted for the defense pow mia accounting agency sole mission is to recover and return missing service members. >> buried beneath this french farm. they've made an incredible discovery. >> we believe this to be a c 47 crashed. >> and in looking for any sign of the three-year men who went down with the plane and remain unaccounted for today, captain brian fox report says his team found what 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