seven odd cnn this is cnn breaking news. >> hello everyone. thanks for joining me today. i'm alison chemla, erotic and for frederick a. whitfield, we have breaking news out of florida. nasa scrubbing its plan to launch boeing's starliner spacecraft today you're seeing the aftermath live right now on your screens apparently, and automatic hold was triggered by the ground launch sequencer. that's the computer that launches the rocket. it stopped the countdown clock with three minutes and 50 seconds left. to go. nasa says it is not clear what caused that automatic hold. space and defense correspondent kristin fisher is live at the kennedy space center for us, also with thus we have a colonel chris hadfield, astronaut and retired commander of the international space station. okay. so kristen, what's the latest where do learning on the ground? >> so right now everybody is focused on the two astronauts onboard this spacecraft, the commander boots hello more, and the pilot, sunny williams. right now, you've got the blue team going in and they've got to get these astronauts off safely and they're essentially sitting on top of a bomb, right? a fully fueled rocket. this is highly flammable. it's dangerous work and so right now, everybody is focused on getting these astronauts off. it's something they trained to do. they did this dozens and dozens of times during space shuttle launches. >> but it's still risky. so that's the primary focus, right? >> right now. >> while they focused on that, engineers are going to be reviewing what triggered this automatic hold or an automatic abort by the computer that launches this rocket. >> that's the big question here. was it any of these issues that they were troubleshooting earlier that perhaps led to this hold. >> we just don't don't know what we're also trying to figure out now is when could they try to launch again as of now, they are going to prepare to try to launch tomorrow. that's the next backup date. a launch around noon. >> but it remains to be seen if they can fully recycle this rocket in time. >> because once you have a rocket that is fully fueled, it can take quite a bit of time to get it. >> all the fuel out. >> and then you gotta get it all the way fueled back up again. so that takes some time. but for now they're preparing for a launch tomorrow, future backup dates are june 5 and sixth of next week i know a lot of people are going to be thinking, wow boeing had another issue, but this may not be an issue with boeing at all. and here's why this is an outdated model. so bear with me to have to give you that caveat, but this is essentially what the rocket looks like on the launchpad, which is just about four or five miles behind me. >> on top is the boeing starliner spacecraft. >> that's what this crewed flight test is four. and this is where the two astronauts are sitting right now and where they're trying to get them out of this is the body of this is the rocket, this whole long piece is the rocket. >> it's designed, built, operated by a totally different company the united launch alliance. >> and so the issue with the first scrub on may 6th, that was an issue with a valve on. this part of the rocket, not the boeing starliner spacecraft. and so that may be the issue again today, perhaps this the computer that detected this issue might've noticed an issue on the rocket itself. but we just don't know. it's just too soon to say it's going to take some time for these engineers to kinda go over all the data and figure out where exactly that a problem was. but allison trust, think if you are butch wilmore, are sunny williams and you get all the way down to three minutes. it's and 50 seconds before launch. for sunny, she's been waiting, assigned to this mission for about ten years and you get that close and they say sorry, scrub, i mean, of course, first and foremost, you want to be safe, but just imagine all that adrenaline and for butch, the commander, he had just delivered this incredibly rousing speech. he'd said something to the effect of, let's fire this rocket and then the hold, this automatic abort happened. so definitely disappointing for the astronauts on board, but you rather be safe and alive. then launched too soon before when you're ready. so we remains to be seen what the issue is, alison and remains to be seen when they're going to try again commander, what what were your thoughts as you watch? >> with them, get down to under four minutes and then it gets scrubbed it's nothing new. >> i mean, that happened on the space shuttle as kristen mentioned many, many times, and that's why you have an automatic ground launch sequencer, an automatic computer, because there are thousands of things that you have to check to make sure the vehicles healthy and there's not enough people that could check them all fast enough. so you set up an automated system and if you go and check, check, check and one of them, if it's out of family or if it got bad data, it says, hey by our rules, we're not safe to launch today. we've got to stop the launch count till we can figure out this problem. >> and i think it's not nearly what it seems. >> four astronauts, the way that kristen was describing it sunny and butch have been trading for years. the training is super realistic and today, they got closer than they've ever gotten to launch. but it's just one more day of training. i had my launches delayed the first space shuttle launch it was delayed for years and years. so it's hard to launch a spaceship for the very first time with people on board, you want to get it right? and it'd be nice if we go to lunch today, but it's far nicer to make sure that we know what the problems are and wait until we have a higher probability of success. so, disappointing, but one more day and the life of two astronauts. >> yes, we all we all agree that it is better to be safe on the ground. do you think, commander, that there's a chance that this can launch again tomorrow or is that too soon of a turnaround? >> we yeah. i mean, it sounds like the ground-launched sequence or saw something that no one else had been tracking up until then none of all the flight controllers, all the people watching the data, they all thought, hey, everything looks okay the computer saw something and now we need to figure out exactly what it saw and it might just be like a a bad sensor. but you don't have time to troubleshoot it. part of the problem is the world is turning and florida comes underneath the orbit of the space station and so the only time you can launch is when florida is perfectly underneath the orbit. so as soon as the world turns a little more, it can't go today, got to wait until the world turns once more and maybe in the time that the world is going to turn here 24 hours, all the smart folks will figure out that was what the problem was and give it another shot tomorrow or on the fifth or the sixth. it's just how it goes. it would've been great to see them launch today. it'll be even greater to see them launch safely. >> commander christine was just explaining to us how it's complicated to get the astronauts off the rocket. now you know, you don't just open the door and they hop out. there's a whole team that has to get them off. so what are they doing right now? >> well as kristen mentioned if you were a kindergarten class drawing the picture of astronauts and a rocket ship, you could just sort of draw a bomb with seats on top that's sort of what, what's your on there. and so before you go and have the crew climb out, you want to make sure sure that all of that fuel, the solid fuel and the liquid fuels, the hydrogen, the oxygen, the kerosene that there's no chance of a stray spark or ignition or procedure getting screwed up. so they want to check all those things and you've got carefully written procedures to back out of a launch and safely extract a prove out. and you they climbed in what it was fully fueled. so it's not like there was a sudden change, but you just have to follow the procedures and they're very methodical. there's no great hurry, right now. the priority is to get the ground safely and the crew's like great day of training. sorry, we disappointed everybody. hopefully the weather is good tomorrow. we'll give it another shot we'll be watching colonel chris hadfield. thank you very much for all the expertise. kristin fisher. thank you for all the reporting. as always. we really appreciate it. thanks. else? >> all right. now, to a key security summit with significant implications for ukraine, president volodymyr zelenskyy is there and he is scheduled to meet with us defense secretary lloyd austin to talk about us support of ukraine in its fight against russia. soon as natasha bergstrom has more on what happened at the summit today secretary austin, address the shangri-la forum here in singapore earlier today in a major speech that focus on the idea of convergence of the united states and its indo-pacific allies here in favor of security and the rule of law, thinly veiled message it's two china, which of course the united states has accused of flouting international law, especially when it comes to freedom of navigation in the season in the air. now, secretary austin also emphasize the importance though of military-to-military communications with the chinese remaining ongoing, saying that that is what responsible nations do. and there's no substitute for that. find of direct dialogue between the us and their chinese counterparts to that end, the secretary did in fact meet face-to-face just the other day with him chinese counterpart for the first time since 2022. and importantly, secretary austin reiterated to the chinese that there are going to be consequences not only for their actions potentially in the south china sea and in the region around taiwan, but also for their support and their ongoing support for russia's defense sector and now that is fueling the war in ukraine, secretary austin said that if, if trying to continues to provide that kind of support for the russians than the us and its allies will be forced to take further measures. now now that is undoubtedly going to be on the agenda for secretary austin to meeting with a surprise guest here at the shangri-la forum, which is president zelenskyy of ukraine. he showed up earlier on saturday night, he's expected to meet on sunday with secretary austin alongside his defense minister umerov. they're expected to talk about the battlefield situation in ukraine, as well as what ukraine needs to defend itself against the russians, right now. and so expect that meeting to be very significant, of course, for austin and for the ukrainian leader here at a moment when the chinese of course are here as well, and they have continued to provide very significant support for russia's defense sector. natasha bertrand, cnn, in singapore thank you, natasha. okay. now to the israel-hamas war, a new statement by israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. today, stress conditions for ending the war, quote, have not changed. but yesterday, president biden laid out a ceasefire proposal and said hamas has been severely degraded at this point. hamas no longer is cable of carrying out another october 7 just wanted to israelis mayes objectiveness war it's time for this war to end for the day after two began are joining me now is joel rubin, former deputy assistant secretary of state for legislative affairs in the obama administration tool. thanks so much for being here it sounds like president biden and prime minister netanyahu have a fundamental difference of opinion and whether the goal of defeating hamas has been achieved. so now what yeah, i'll say it's great to be with you and this is a difference that is really in the negotiation process. and i think what you see with president biden is real american leadership in trying to lay out a vision that provides comprehensive security and its ability for israel and pathways normalization between israel and its arab neighbors. and this is based upon assessment that hamas has been degraded to a point where it cannot conduct the kind of horrific attack that it did. an october 7 to start this whole war. and i think the presidency is a window of opportunity. and so what he did yesterday both publicly in a very clear, clean way to the israeli people and say, look, these are the stakes. here's an opportunity. i believe that we have a pathway forward and he's putting the pressure on the prime minister to continue to lean forward on negotiations and remember, i want to add the israelis did propose this three-step process and they agreed to it. and it's trying to keep them in the fold while putting a lot of pressure on hamas to accept it. but it doesn't sound like prime minister netanyahu agrees with the assessment that hamas has been degraded. well, he's got a lot of internal dynamics that he has to manage and certainly in his coalition there's gonna be a lot of pushback from the far-right for ministers like nmr, ben gvir, and bezalel smotrich who are opposed to any kind of agreement at all whatsoever between israel and the palestinians and deploying out forces from gaza. but he's going to have to negotiate this in the coming days. there are factions within israeli politics. for example, benny gantz, who is a member of the war cabinet, is calling for new elections and trying to get into parliament dissolved prime minister netanyahu has to look in the mirror this moment and decide, does he want to be on the side of long-term security for israel? and if so, he needs to grab this idea that president biden's put forward, that the israelis themselves in their security establishment does see as an important component to long-term security for israel i mean, but given those dynamics as you laid out, does president biden's stance hold any sway with netanyahu? it does look, this is, first of all, america is the best friend of israel, without a doubt. and president biden has been the best president for israeli security that we've ever seen recently, just in april, shooting down iranian missiles launched at israeli territory and the israeli people know that is very high approval ratings, so much higher in israel and prime minister netanyahu hi, who and so he's getting negotiate. remember, president biden is a tough negotiator and a savvy one, uh, he built a multinational coalition with nato expansion included to oppose russia's invasion of ukraine he negotiates with republicans all the time. it gets legislative priorities through the house. he's been at this for a number of decades. and so he sees a window right now to push and cajoled prime minister netanyahu to agree to move forward. and i think that this is a realistic path that he's laid out. it's one that the israelis have talked about, the negotiating table for months. and this is not out of their realm of pi possibility. so he's trying to seal this deal right now obviously, it's one thing to talk about policy and diplomacy and then another thing to look at what's happening on the ground. >> we have some video out of gaza last night and basically it shows that the sun setting, they're over the sea as palestinians our sitting in, what looks like the bombed-out ruins. >> and so i mean, what how how how involved will the usb in? >> helping to rebuild whatever was there yeah, it's heartbreaking gaza and what the people of gaza have experienced because of hamas is launch of that war in october 7 and continual holding of hostages, which has demonstrated their lack of concern for human life. >> the third part of this proposal of the president laid out requires an includes that is construction and reconstruction supported by the international community, by arab gulf states who could be participants in this by neighbors in the region. the united states, those essential glue without us, none of this happens. we must be involved and we will be involved part of the first phase of the deal also would be to provide 600 trucks daily of humanitarian assistance. that's crucial for the people in gaza right now so you can see the united states play being a critical role throughout the process to make sure that all of our allies in the region israel, jordan, egypt, saudi arabia, you name it, that they come to the table and help to reconstruct gaza after this war joel rubin thanks for all the information for your to have you on. >> thanks, allison are coming up. we're falling breaking news. a sentencing verdict has been reached in chad daybell's triple murder trial we'll have all the details coming up for you plot the citywide water outage and atlanta after two major water main breaks in just one day, we had the latest details so what's happening there straight ahead russia is we're trying to spy on us we were spying on them. >> i was hadi friday this is a the secret was secrets and spine nuclear game bring years tomorrow at ten on cnn. >> 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if they want to push it back a few weeks, given that his legal team will be busy with another case down in florida through the end of june. >> now, after that, we expect that the trump team will ultimately file an appeal throughout the course of this case. >> they have been preparing for the possibility of an appeal if there was a conviction, they've been filing motions, raising objections trying to preserve any constitutional questions. now that process will likely take a long time, possibly lasts until after the november election paula reid, cnn, new york okay. >> let's talk more now with one of our favorite guests. i'm joined by pulitzer prize winning presidential historian doris kearns goodwin, her new book, an unfinished love story, a personal history of the 1960s is available now, doris, always great to have you glad to be with you so help us put this week in historical context because obviously us presidents have been in trouble before and even broken the law before. >> so give us the significance of donald trump's conviction i think the significance is that what the conviction revolves around his an election. i mean, that's what we've seen this whole past four years. in this case, the conviction meant that he lost his bid for acquittal and it had to do with influencing the 20 2016 election with unlawful means. >> what we've what we've been dealing with really since 2020 is the loss of that election and a series of unlawful acts that he's now indicted for. >> and other courts that had to do with not accepting that loss. it's so important in our political system for the peaceful transition of power democracies about, letting us vote people in or throw them out. and in both these cases, we're dealing with failure to accept a loss instead of accepting this loss of this conviction there now claiming the rule of law is wrong, the jury system was wrong. it's corrupt. that's a dangerous game to be playing because our institutions depend on trust then are in our institutions, and that trust has already been diminished. when you look at every institution that's under underwater. and now it's going to be more so unless the competing story can be told, that's the and what would that sound like i think what the competing story has to be is that there's a pattern here of what we've seen over these last years. it now starts earlier than we realize perhaps until this case took place with a candidate for the presidency who was worried that his election might be lost if this material got out, use unlawful means perhaps two as the conviction seems to suggest, to prevent these stories from stormy daniels, daniels and others to get out. and is now being held responsible for that instead of detecting that responsibility or any kind of remorse for that, there's an attempt to turn against the jury system. one of the hallmarks of democracy. and then we go forward after this conviction we have indictments now for the 2020 election, when that peaceful transition of power was not agreed to, the only time in history that a president has not agreed to that when instance that unlawful means are indicted, at least suggested they used in order to obstruct a position in in january 4 an official shall proceeding unlawful means to count the electoral votes in a different way. and it's all part of a story really an elections are at the center of what a democracy is that i think that story has to be a narrative there's competing narrative out there. and in many ways, the other side has won a competing narrative in terms of january 6, it's not the same way it was. it seemed in january 6. it's been turned into a stolen election. it's been turned into a corrupt electoral system, and it's going to depend on where the public thinks this pattern exists and who's going to tell that story? >> yeah. well, i want to ask you, i mean, speaking of the hallmarks of democracy, donald trump rails against many, if not most of our bedrock, american principles. he doesn't like our elections it's time. he doesn't like our top medical experts during the pandemic. he doesn't like our criminal justice system now has there ever been a presidential candidate who has taken such for lack of a better term, an anti-american stance before you know, to really interesting question because part of what he was arguing in these last days is that america itself health is a third world country that we're in a great sense of decline that we're a banana republic. and usually in an election, this very rare that a candidate talks it's about america that way there's a vision of the future that you want to present that we are something that we can be even better than we are. and maybe there's a gap between where we want to be and where we are. but there's a sense of moving forward and a sense of i mean, that's why even in the midst of the depression, you have fdr is the happy warrior. it seems crazy, but he wants to project a confidence since in the future, even in a really tough time. so it's a very unusual thing to be talking so badly about a country. and the question is, are people really feeling as badly as he thinks? they are? i mean, we've got an economy that's better than any in the world. yes, there are problems with inflation. yes, there are problems with the mortgages, but it's hard to argue that we're in a terrible state economically it's hard to argue that we're in a terrible, in so many ways. and yet, if people believe that it's hard to know, i just don't know whether these poles will show up. we'll see what happens when people really think, when, when you feel democracy in your blood, in a certain it sounds when you feel it viscerally emotionally, when you go in the poll and you close that curtain behind you, if they still have those curtains in some places and you mark your ballot and millions of others are doing the same thing. and you're making that decision. you feel democracy when you see a jury trial that's worked for days and hours, put themselves forward and managed to somehow come up with a unanimous verdict. and those are the moments that i think people have to be made to feel what is democracy if they feel that, that i think the rally against the electoral system, the expert system in science, the expert system, the now the jury system, it's going to seem too much. it's going to seem like one man, is railing against our entire the american system. and do we really want that to happen i'm your new book and unfinished love story is a personal history of the 1960s that obviously was a decade ago incredible political upheaval civil rights movement, vietnam war political assassinations. >> so what compare that decade? now and what the lessons were i think what's so important to remember about the 60s is that it started out with so many difficulties you had burned let me him you had a civil rights peaceful marches. >> there were set upon by hoses and dogs, and then it's selma. you had alabama state troopers that we're pushing into the the peaceful marchers going over the bridge to rot for the right to vote. >> and it seemed like what country do we have that this can happen. >> and yet the conscience of the american people was fired. we've got to civil rights it's at changed the face of the south. we've got a voting rights act that finally made voting free and fair for many black americans. and the system worked in that sense? yes, you had to sack so nations and yes, you had anti-war anti war movement even worked at the beginning when mccarthy campaign, and it led to the withdrawal of lyndon johnson, his willingness to sell say that the bombing would stop. it's willing to say i'm going to negotiate with the north vietnamese and then things got out of control. martin luther king died, robert kennedy died, and it seemed like the system was undoing itself. and that led to the violence at the democratic convention in 1968. >> so we remember that the last part we've got to remember the other part that it was a decade that was powered by individual believing that they could change things so they could make a difference. >> and when you feel that when citizens are powered, and that's what i think has to happen again now, it's now up to the citizens to determine that election. what kind of an america we want and what kind of a candidate do we want? you wouldn't even have to mention the former president's name to say, do we want a candidate for president? what do we want a president who cannot accept loss with grace, who cannot acknowledge errors, who does not have resilience, who most importantly is unwilling to put ambition for south. he is a bishop for the greater good above ambition for yourself that's the critical thing you needed a leader. you look at all the leaders i've studied and all of those qualities, those emotional what qualities are what we're looking for. we have to ask, does this man has shown us qualities? you wouldn't even have to mention his name. just say 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what prosecutors here said was that the aggravating factors would include the fact that this was done for money, that this was utter disregard for human life, that this was cruel and atrocious, that he had essentially been a threat to society. and that's why the jury decided saying yes to all of these aggravating factors and saying yes to the death penalty here, he was staring at the judge, essentially the entire time there was no reaction from chad daybell. this is a man who was a preacher who spoke about his beliefs and his religious beliefs and now he was motionless as he was told that his penalty essentially is death allison. >> okay. camila bernal. thank you for that also, there are new details in a decades old murder case that gripped the country. scott peterson was convicted in 2004 of the murder of his wife, lacey, and their unborn son now, in an effort to get a new trial, his legal team requested 14 pieces of evidence be retested for dna. this week, the judge approved just one of those. it's a piece of duct tape recovered from the body of his wife at the time of, her autopsy human dna was found on the tape, but at the time, not enough to generate an identification. joining me now is beth karatay? she's a lawyer, former prosecutor, and also former court tv reporter, beth great to see you. so what does all this mean? >> nice to see you too. allison? well, it's hopeful for scott peterson that the duct tape will now yield a dna profile. in the past 20 years since it was tested, dna testing, the technology has become more sophisticated, so maybe there will be an opportunity to get a profile but the question is, will it be laci is profile scott's profile or someone else, but there's one piece of duct tape is it was already tested as you mentioned and it is the only piece that the judge of the evidence they wanted retested or tested for the first time that the judge found was connected a knock two laci and the crime that it warranted further testing, but everything else was just it was just too speculative. and so she did not allow any other items to be tested, but that's if there's dna belonging to someone other than scott peterson, does he get a new trial? >> i don't know that that will be enough to get a new trial. she was in the bay for 3.5 months. is it possible that this is duct tape that somehow clung to her as a result of something that was floating in the water. but i i don't i don't recall from the trial which i was at if if it was situated so that it prompts she was maybe wrapped in it, possibly if that's the case, maybe. i don't know. there'll be enough to get her get him a new trial, but it was certainly go along way to further that argument. i think it's i think it's a real long-shot so as you know, the los angeles innocence project that's a non-profit that works to exonerate people who are wrongly convicted, has taken up scott peterson's claim of innocence. >> why i mean, is there a compelling evidence that someone else murdered 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