not credible as a matter of law is not something that judges really do i think that to a certain extent the judge was cutting through and saying the standard here is that no reasonable juror could possibly find on these facts and that usually is successful. >> if the evidence produced the trial skips and element entirely, you have no evidence of a shooting evidence is somebody got shot and then they just forget to bring in the autopsy so that nobody actually testifies the guy died. then you ask for judgment as a matter of law that acquitting on the murder case because there was no evidence of a death and so it's unlikely to do here and so i think the judge is kinda needling todd a little bit there with the with the whole idea of not quite able as a matter of law, i will say though these types of motions, even though from the defense sayyed, you know that you're unlikely to win it's very useful to prepare for the closing because you kind of preview your argument and then you see what the prosecutor does in response. and so you know, what their themes are gonna be on there as well when you're doing it with the jury, not even there. so you're kinda murder bordering your arguments in front of the judge. let's bring it back. i cnn's kara scannell. kara there was another big moment in court today when one of the witnesses and the judge were really having added, the judge clears the courtroom because of these expressions of disdain for his rulings from defense witness bob costello. tell us about that jake, in 20 years, of covering trials, i have never seen a judge clear the courtroom the way that judge merchan did today. >> it was after this tension shin over bob costello, who's on the witness stand when the judge would sustain the objections by the prosecution costello was making noises rolling his eyes at one point, you could your hidden say, jeez. and so the judge asked the jury to step out more. sean turn to costello and said he wanted to talk to him about the rules of decorum in the courtroom, and even then fellow was kind of going back and forth with him. and the judge telling him you don't say jeez, you don't say stricken. i'm the one that decides the rulings in this courtroom. and then costello again kind of looking the judge, immer schon, lean toward costello. he's still on the bench. you leaned toward him and said, are you staring me down? and that's when the judge said clear the courtroom. all the media had to get up to leave. you know, we were asking why we were being forced out because and so the hallway than a few moments later, we were allowed to come back in. nothing else was said of the matter and then the jury was brought back in across direct examination continued by trump's attorney her knees, but i've never seen that in all of these years of a judge becoming so frustrated, he removed the media from the courtroom so he could address presumably costello, because when things when the testimony resumed, costello was answering the questions he was no longer making any asides or any comments about one of the most tense moments i've seen with a judge which becoming very frustrated with one of these witnesses. >> so costco just going back and looking at these notes from from you and the others following the case for us from inside the courtroom commander in the overflow, costello expressing his disdain for various rulings by judge merchan. he shook his head as if exasperated he hurt his said ridiculous. and then at one and then at one point he lets out a jesus in russia and leans forward and says, it says to castellows, sorry can i. >> ask you can i don't want to put you in an uncomfortable situation, but like how exactly did he say ridiculous and jesus, was it was it angry? was exasperated. can you can you give us some inkling yeah. >> costello scene does exasperated by this. you know, this was before castula even got on the stand, there had been a lot of back-and-forth between the judge, the prosecutors, and the defense about the scope of kotb cellas testimony the judge wanted this narrow and so costello was answering some of these questions more long winded than what the judge want now, casella wasn't there when this was all going down, but it was because the judge kept sustaining objections by the prosecution. costello looked frustrated that he kept getting cut off, that he wasn't able to finish his sentences. and so that's when he was having his moments of what appeared to be exacerbation, what's surprising costello was a federal prosecutor. he's been in a courtroom. he knows how judges run things. so he knows what sustained it means. >> and as objection, but he was still speaking and trying to get in some words that seem to be the point of tension because costello was appearing very frustrated that he kept the been cut off because the prosecutors were objecting and the judge was sustaining those objections and striking some of his answers from the record. >> was he saying, i obviously he was saying for an exasperated lee reduced thank you. less. and jesus, was he saying it loudly? was he saying it? is it fair to say he was saying it does the witness i think it's fair to yeah. >> i think it's fair to say that he was being frustrated and showing that frustration sometimes witnesses there's a microphone right in front of them and they can say things let's that are sometimes picked up in the overflow room, but not necessarily heard in the courtroom. i could hear it very clearly in the courtroom. castellows jeez so he was making it known. i mean, remember the jury is sitting just feet from him so they can hear what he's saying. two, he is making it known pretty loudly. he couldn't i've said it more under his breath, but he was saying it in a way that was audible even toward the back of the courtroom today. >> all right. word but thank you so much, kara scannell, we're back with the panel. tom dupree joins us now. tom was principal deputy assistant attorney general during the george w bush administration, and we are also obviously waiting for the defendant and presumptive republican presidential nominee, donald trump to come out and address the cameras time to free your reaction to this wild day in court today. >> well, i got to say jake, it did surprise me in a number of fronts, i guess for one thing is that costello is a prosecutor. he knows better. he knows that you cannot show the judge up in front of the jury, in front of a courtroom. number two, there has been a lot of events in this trial that have tried judge merchan's patients but this was the event that apparently kinda pushed them over the edge and prompt them to what prompted them to take what i agree was an extraordinary step of clearing the courtroom so he could apparently just dress down the witness and tell them to knock it off. >> so it was remarkable. >> i'm also frankly a little surprised that the trump defense didn't call them as a witness. i know there have been a lot of debate within the trump camp trump about the wisdom of calling him or not. sense was that they did a very good job in my judgment of cross-examining cohen, i felt that they were in a strong position with the record is currently existed. they didn't need to bring on another witness to further questions, credibility question cohen's credibility, but they did. and it may well it backfired on them, but kaitlan isn't are reporting that they called this witness because the client, mr. trump, the defendant, wanted him called, not because the defense legal team wanted him called some of that. >> i mean, clearly, donald trump was in favor of having called, but also it appears that the defense does seem to want to use him as one of the pieces to undermine michael cohen. but what has just happened over the last several minutes as court is wrapping here is that we are in a place where the michael cohen of it is getting the judge's saying that's going to go to the jury. whether he is credible or not, the jury will decide. but there was the other part of this that sort of got skirted over pretty quickly in the motion for dismissal arguments, and that's what the core of this case is going to be when we get to closing arguments, whether that's tomorrow or whether that's next tuesday and it's the things that todd blanche said at the very top of his argument right after costello was done, one how is keeping a false story from the voters criminal meaning, meaning the stormy daniels story is meaning, right? meaning there's no criminality that they've proved for national enquirer catch and kill schemes. there's no evidence of an intent to mislead or hide falsified business records. this is defense argument, and then three, there's no evidence of the additional crime. the campaign finance violation when stormy daniels were paid off. so that is all going to be what's going to come together for this closing arguments. and it looks like there will not be closings tomorrow. >> our team in the courtroom is now just but that's interesting. shin will amateurs did and what you guys think all the lawyers on this panel, because if todd todd blanche's argument as caitlin, you spell down is this never happened, right there. >> he said that in the open. also, todd blanche, that the rendezvous, the sexual encounter between stormy daniels and donald trump never happened. >> and if that is the case that that never happened, then todd blanche is arguing, then paying somebody off to keep a falsehood out of the public sphere is not election interference here, here it comes, mr. trump, i'm going to come back to this because i think it's interesting. >> but here is the defendant presumptive republican presidential nominee, donald j. trump. after quite an eventful day in court you very much so what you saw on display, tiring everyone, stop. this is what we have. >> enacting, judge, appointed judge. by again, but it's love and keeping an hour and your sisters. fourth week simply be our fifth week. not campaigning with you. so what happened, what's just took place in that hopefully the motion to dismiss this trial will go through because this trial is a disaster for our country disaster for new york state you don't a great jack says, where exactly is the grind? >> chipotle? remember the line from shakespeare's alone? i don't know. >> it's a mystery the resist no crime andy, regards to him, it's constitutional protection just to enforce viral integration. how is it constitutional for new york to enforce federal election law they've gone by federal to happen were nobody said as seen anything like this. >> this is same, whichever. this is a witch is to tap crooked joe by the worst president in the history or after you five far by far to damages political opponent. that's all this is highly political judge a totally conflicted judge who just did something that nobody's ever seen the press is not happening. i don't imagine it just got thrown good morning house nobody's ever say that. >> what i get these things are consistent. >> bragg has no authority to enforce election law and we didn't get it wrong ted cruz said it's over 200 years. >> never would as a president united states been indicted over know brian. >> know brian marley hemingway, very smart woman. this is a show trial. >> there is no but actual crime or evidence. >> volley hammer are respected by everybody graduate here's a very liberal gentleman but a very challenging, critically acclaimed director oliver stone having various named mentioned there while it's a new form of warfare, it's gold what's there? and that's what they're used against trump that's who i take a super liberal. >> but even his stuff you back i had such liberal or as they say, nowadays, progressive support marc live in, your living through what is not only the worst presidency in american history that's fine when it comes to domestic and foreign affairs. but when it comes to our constitution, the rule of law loro, which is the core to this republic. find this dismantling. and he's destroying it that are in the same. >> i think it's a people around this desk that beautiful, beautiful, resolute desk the oval office it's horrible thing. i'd pick country has have been in this position. we're doing badly so many different ways, and we're falling apart. and we're not respected in the world that he was looking at an ssh different so we've got mad countries, the saying as saying that the united states has no different than we gavin wax, the globalist, the late severely miscalculated by declaring war on trump. i guess he's referring to the fact that the poles are through the roof, but i'm not even talking about that. >> and the pose i said nothing android j-th are caspi who are terrific lawyers as everyone knows, his passed on to judge patient to dismiss his case. >> trump's business records drawer. there are no snowfall century by the way they paid a legal expense that's the market legal expense. and i stayed every day he construction. they could have said this is for construction purposes. this is four some other purposes, you building a building. they say billy case they gold, which is legal expense. they go that legal expenses. >> they paid no lawyer money. >> legal expense. and then the lawyer is really toxic. retain its are beginning. he calls every day former, acting attorney. general whitaker, the prosecution is presented absolutely no evidence of a drug they reach catch the american spectator april over there judge first young animosity trump, and his inability to ensure a fair trial is not lost on the voters never seen anything like and this goes over hi, ross your times i would defy anyone to summarize the underlying situation in which a person again today could be sent to prison for a misdemeanor offense are small, but but does not even a misdemeanor for misdemeanor affairs elevated by the second crime for which he is an even being charged. i'm him being judged they didn't know what the judge that in you're charged you know what the grinders i've been heavily that's what the grinders and they don't want me to be on behalf of i think 200 million april they don't want me to meet my again it's to shame. this is what they've done just to finish out with that, a description coming across as somewhat caffeine cnn. pounds. this game this is significant. there is no direct to trump in this alleged conspiracy that's from cnn laura coates have cnn not a fan of mind, as i understand it. possibly fatally undermine the prosecution's case this disaster but she said here undermines the prosecutor this case should be dropped by the judge i think the judge and he did that for me again, the respect back we have here the appellate court, or steadman. something has to add think of it very party one of the two great partners now i'm going to ask somebody to be their candidate and that candidate now, i'm sitting here for almost five weeks in a freezing cold ice box listening to this stuff? no crime elie honig, who cnn the crux of the cases but let's say he said step statement down here, trump he never would have agreed to be rocked by cannes. >> he absolutely i didn't this is a bomb being dropped on the prosecution's case. this is cruising to prosecutors credibility, and i'll take a lot new york state is bigger, so bad. >> and then watch all door and businesses are going to give the state they already are all right. >> fortunately, but they're going to be leaving. they can be subject to this, this and gordon and kappelman other judges that have just created a horrible scar oh, the appellate courts will take care of it but this did not ask about that on direct and. this is elie honig have not made him plead guilty to larceny because you know what taken place. that mean that i wanted to mention it is remember again, i'm not supposed to draw get met certain things in some be very careful, but he saw this is cnn mentioned they get which it is larceny, which it is. and you know what they're talking about, because there was admitted. the money he's won't say that the money hizon say that in fact, you're gonna have to get this one because i can't read it. i've been reading this. but as a vicious statement he respected persons and elie honig. >> so you have to read them yourself because i've been gagged turns out now that trump was yeah i said, you can read that. >> i can read it because sometimes to say it they go confrontation the. prosecutor misled this jury so there is against to be made because five people stay in very professionally that the prosecutors should be prosecuted district attorney's horseback brand should be prosecuted because he knew what do submitted his case all about the lives. and therefore, he's committed the crime many people it said that that they should and your surround. >> he knew that this was a thing. >> he knew that the highs, the lives, split, not just talking about the small amount you have to go get the southern districts about 28 book on which the jets were and by the way, the judge wouldn't a lot of that the southern district paton respected a book of 28 pages, i believe are more alive we're not allowed to put it in the expert witness that we have the best there is an election law brad smith, he's considered rolls-royce store, will bring it back to what american guard cadillac but the best there is he can testify hello to testify and you still happened to a highly respected lawyers bob costello i've never seen anything like that i, and respected. but remember this we can put it in an expert witness. what allowed to put in an expert witness? nobody's ever heard that before collection law is very complicated. >> actually went out and i and experts who's the judge wants to go? >> he said, we needed experts. i guess. he said you know, he needs help we have the number one person, either side for the brad smith what are very complex so when we did nothing wrong and i'm telling you that right now, and he didn't want him to testify. that's because he's going to say we did nothing play droughts ups. >> i can say that what because you've got to have a gaggle read joel go to school whole big thing on a witness today. so i can talk about it. bob saxton, the exact same thing. jim palpatory kim parlatore, khuza'a a very good lawyer. cnn it's not only goh to the credibility, it's also goes to alvin bragg's office. his credibility. >> how did they not get this out ahead of time? >> in this whatever was asking them. how did they put something like this out and then he goes on to things i've had to talk about. can you hear me? yeah vice-president joe, we have 15 people that i'm supposed to be meeting about being who's going to be on vice-president? >> but i was stuck in the refrigerator wrong the presidential nominee, i'm just dabbing here by an acting judge exactly democrats and it's left but hopefully i for the good and output governor steps premiere. steps, lower because you can't go and it's likely have an armed camp outset we did here civilian, you can't get with the three blocks of this courthouse what happens police. >> and they're in blue with him. >> and good to me, but that's you don't see any civilians as said, i'd never so so many iron gates because i've seen in the last five weeks, andy mccarthy you show he stole from the trump organization. even is they're structuring a deal. >> and now i can because again, i have a gag so i think the case is going very well. >> we've asked her termination of the case this case should be terminated. this should go anywhere to be terminated right now and new york state has to go up and system again, new york state let this happen can't let the staff there were no crimes. we did nothing wrong and i want to get back to campaigning. i'm representing medians and millions all right. it's opinions of people in the meantime, russia and china it out good friends and want to take over the world. >> i ran this developing a nuclear weapon and that's not going to be easy situation where they have north korea's getting the frisbee and i get home with him very well. but the current administration get an even notice the name we have a lot of things to sell inflation sitting your lives. you see that anything new highs? i should be out campaigning so we can turn the country around thank you very much and see you tomorrow all right. >> inside the courthouse on centre street, there in lower manhattan, the defendant and presumptive republican presidential nominee, donald j. trump after he obviously felt a great day in court, he tends to speak longer when it's a better day for him. let's bring in cnn's tom foreman, who's on the fact check duty for us right now. mr. foreman, what do you say? >> i'm going a busy few minutes. i'll tell you what it's been like. >> last thing was bringing up there, he talked about brad smith. >> there election expert, who's going to testify. he said he can't testify. he can't testify. not true with the judge said is you can testify to some details of election law. i can discuss what the fe what the federal election commission does, things like that. what he did not want was february him to effectively be in a position of instructing the jury on how the law should be applied. because then he said the other cyber bring forward their own experts in the jurors would just be confused by at all, not true that brad smith could not testify. he made the point of saying that at one point he linked it saying representing some like 20,200 million people don't know where that comes from. we've got just over 70 million in the last election, we have to find out more about that. once again, he's said that judge merchan is highly conflicted, totally political appointed by a democrat, michael bloomberg initially brought him into family court in new york. democrat. yeah. but by enlarge, everyone has said that this is a man with an almost impeccable record of running the court fairly and he certainly seems to have bent over backward according to many legal experts, to accommodate trump in all of this not being unfair at all. so the bottom line is not a lot of new things here but he keeps trying to say, even when he cites our own experts, elie honig, laura coates, and so on. a lot of cherry-picking there to pick the parts he likes to say they're basically saying there's no case against him. when we haven't had anybody he said there was no case against him jake. >> all right. tom thanks so much to our panel now. and it is certainly true that here it cnn, where we pride ourselves on having a variety of viewpoints diversity of viewpoints, ideological diversity that there have been panelists that we've had who think that mr. trump that this case is not a good case. there are also people who feel the other way and that is what we aspire to do here at cnn, bring a diversity of viewpoints in parlatore, you got named check their by your former client, mr. trump. did he did he quote you correctly or maybe you didn't even hear it, but you know, the control room was actually asked me a question, so i didn't hear everything he had to say about me, but, yeah but it sounds like they got it about right yeah. and i think that you bring up a great point. it's one of the reasons why enjoy doing panels here is because you do have both sides that have an intelligent, respectful conversation. about this. and certainly there are pieces of it that the president liked. they're probably pieces of what i said this morning that he didn't want to quote, but like it was in court, so probably the only brought him the ones that they thought he would like to make his point. shan will you've been you've been you've been bullish rather on this case, you think it's a pretty good case. you have a different view from tim parlatore why do you think today was not as good for the defense's a lot of our panelists have thought i thought it's particular interesting hearing from people in the courtroom. what sort of vibe was on the sort of which is definitely very different than the vibe on our set. of course the whole notion of another gotcha moment let's question about the theft issue you and i were discussing earlier that the prosecution did try to anticipate that they brought it out on direct. >> i think when you do that, we can argue whether they did a good enough job with it, but the critical thing is you don't want it to truly emerge for the first time on cross. that's a real gotcha moment. that didn't happen. and it may just not be that big of a deal to the jury because again, it's the aggregate of everything and i still think that the fence time will tell, but i think it's a mistake for them depend so much on attacking cohen just as a bad dishonest person that you can believe nothing that comes out of his mouth it's just too many of the eggs in that one basket. there are other things they could do with them. the whittle away at that. but again, i just don't feel they've had a very good theme with tom. >> do you think it's possible that there's a juror in there who thinks, you know what? i think michael collins a liar, but i also think this happened. >> i do i do think that's possible. look, i mean, we've all been speculating on how we would react if we were jurors to a lot of the testimony mounting. the fact is, we don't know what the men and women at jury box are actually thinking, but i will say this one area i do think the prosecutors may have fallen a bit short is in trying to present a simple case to the jury. if you're a prosecutor, your goal is to present things as simple as possible. so the jury can understand it. they can apply the law to the facts and they can convict if you are a defense lawyer, your task typically is to complexify because complexity breeds reasonable doubt and that's what you need to instill and at least one juror, i think by enlarge the defense has succeeded in that a lot of the cross of cohen really made things seem very complicated about these deals in this bookkeeping. and did you know this and jumping around, blanch was very disorganized, but there may have been a method to his madness and just making the jury hard to follow and making it hard to follow all these dates and all these deals and to the extent that you do start seeding reasonable doubt in that jury box that could lead to a hung jury or even an acquittal. >> very interesting stuff, thanks to all of you for being here and welcome. it's good to have you here. hope come please come back. there is other big news this hour we're standing by for president biden to speak the white house earlier today, the president took the unusual step of slamming the international criminal court for recommending arrest warrants. not only for three liters of the terrorist group, hamas, but for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and the defense minister as well, biden called the move outrageous. several democrats and republicans have also 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that the icc has applied for an arrest warrant for the leader of a close us ally, the icc also announced that they would target the leaders of hamas, including yahya sinwar and two other top officials of that terrorist group. israel's defense pence minister yoav gallant, as i said, is also named the significant icc decision came in an exclusive interview first this morning with cnn's chief international anchor christiane amanpour christiane joins us now from the hagan christiane did the icc prosecutor explain why he seemed to put the leaders of a nation, israel on the same level as the leaders of the terrorist group hamas he certainly did, and i went back off to the backlash, so to speak. >> you've just outlined and ask them again and they were very, very hey, clear. they said to me that the icc's mandate is solely focused on the victims in other words, as they said equivalent of victims not alleged perpetrators. so that is their answers that and furthermore, during the interview, i asked about allegations and actually comments by prime minister netanyahu even before these arrest warrants were requested, that this would be anti-semitic. it would be outrageous, it would be a travesty of international justice. this is what chief prosecutor karam called said wants to underline the fact that you mentioned in an earlier question the allegations of antisemitism. they hate the idea that by applying the law blindly we are favoring one side of persecuting are big hostile to another, sayyed, nothing can be further from the truth. i've also pointed an independent panel and this independent panel are giants it includes adrian fulford, who was the vice president of the court of appeal, the first british judge elected to the icc. bearnaise had in a kennedy who's one of the giants of human rights president of the international bar association it includes danny freeman, king's council a very well-respected lawyer, also an a practicing jew. we have ted marone. >> he's a giant ii was the legal advisor of israel in 1967. >> as israel's legal advice, he actually said, and it's public that the building of settlements was illegal. settlements was contrary to the fourth geneva conventions. and maybe if he'd been listened to, things wouldn't have come to the state. we are in today but he was a holocaust survivor he was also legal counsel, a counselor to the united states state department president of the yugoslavia tribunal. you have a marked loony we have so many people of distinction that are respected and they independently came in. i brought them in they sat in the evidence review. this is not a witch hunt. this is not some kind of emotional reaction to noise and he said that he would not have brought these arrest warrant demands and request had he not had based on the the evidence that he was just talking about just then a clear belief and the panel as well, that it would reach the level of the burden of proof of a conviction in court, not just bringing it it to code, but a conviction in court. >> and remember, he has requested arrest warrants for hamas leaders based on the crime of extermination. >> eye mask killings for sexual assault, for hostage taking, and for a number of other crimes that amount to crimes against humanity and war crimes. and in terms of israel also extension, i e, mass killing. and most importantly, they cite what they believe to be starvation used as a weapon of war. >> jake reminder our viewers if you would, christiane why >> parity and that enables third parties and the like to be at least investigated an arrest warrants demanded. now, in the case of israel, israel could deal with this legal situation itself. it is an obviously a democracy with an independent judiciary, but the prosecutor's office and the prosecutor has told me that no matter how much he's also israel in relation to these and previous alleged crimes that they were investigating on the occupied west bank. there has been no cooperation of significance and meaningful weight by the israeli system. so that's one thing. and remember, the united states itself throughout this war has, has tried to tell israel to respect the rules and laws of war and protect the civilians. and of course that's the reason that the united states does not want and is trying to dissuade israel from any full-scale invasion of rafah. why the national security advisor jake sullivan said just a few days maybe a couple of weeks, that they had not yet seen a credible plan by the israeli government or the armed forces to protect civilians in case of a full-scale invasion on rafah. so the us already is concerned and has been about potential mass violations of civilian protection. >> all right. see you announce. christiana important, the hague for us. thank you so much, president biden is speaking now at the white house and in event marketing, jewish american heritage month. let's listen in fabric. >> i'm american and it's permanent is permanent. but look, i know today's reception falls our time. the trauma of october 7 and its aftermath of the deadliest day the jewish people. i've undergone since the holocaust is still fresh. and ongoing. and men were many of you. we have parents of someone being held hostage right now and we're going to get them home. we're going to get them home, come hell or high on her. >> there's a playbills slaughtered in there they salted all from you. or in harm's way. now. and my commitment to safety, the jewish people security of israel, and its right to exist as an independent jewish state is ironclad really is. >> mine is working around the clock to free the remaining hostages just every afraid hostages already here. are there's a day is hersh go goldberg-polin is still he is not here with us, but he's still being held by hamas i'm rachel and john are here with a stand-up guy loves straddling compassionate, inspiring the entire world my pledge to both of you and i mean, it i know, you know, mom that i mean, it i will not rest until we bring your loved ones home. we've got to bring them home let me clear always ensure that israel has everything it needs to defend itself against hamas. >> and all of their enemies just as i did want iran's unprecedented attack last month we stand with israel to take out sinwar and the rest of the butchers of hamas we want hamas defeated we work with israel to make that happen. and consistent with juries, values, and compassion, kindness, indignity in human life my team also is providing critical humanitarian assistance to help it isn't palestinian civilians were suffering greatly because of the war, hamas, hamas is only as heartbreaking as we do this. we're also committed to bring the reason together to work toward a two-state solution that provides security, prosperity, and enduring peace for israel and palestine let me be clear. >> we reject the icc's application arrest warrants against his will whatever these warrants may imply, there's no equivalence between israel and hamas it's clear there isn't one. it's all to do all it can to ensure civilian protection. but let me be clear contract allegations against israel made by the international court of justice. what's happening is not genocide to reject that always stand with israel the threats against the security compounding the pain and vicious surge of antisemitism is around the world. >> here in america as well. and our streets are social media, college campuses it's amazing, it's happening. it's absolutely despicable. it's wrong, and it must stop. it must stop in america, we respect and protect fundamental rights of free speech to protest peacefully that's america but there's no place in any campus in america. any place in america for antisemitism, or hate speech? threatens violence of any kind against jews or anyone else nobody should fear going to synagogue or school or walking down a street wearing a symbol of your faith. that's wrong simply wrong and that's why long before october 7, i launch the nation's first national strategy to counter antisemitism. that's mobilized the full force of the federal government to crack down on anti-semitic wherever you find it we reasonably cured it, security additional $400 million the large increase ever and physical security for non-profits, ugly to synagogue jewish community centers, j20 schools jewish non-profits. my department of education is put colleges on notice that that i december antisemitism is discrimination prohibited under title six and the civil rights act, period the blob and has. to investigate discriminatory and aggressively discrimination aggressively that's my special envoy to monitor cabinet antisemitism. deborah debra, you all where is it ever hear you ever. thank you. >> let's that for furthering our efforts to all around the world it matters, this matters because jewish community to watch you, to know i see your fear, your hurt, and your pain let me reassure you as your president, you are not alone. >> you belong you always will belong let me close this. >> if mom was like this, we do well to remember that this ancient story of jury's resilience and doors because of its people that's what today is all about. feeling the joy and pride and community honoring the beauty of your unshakeable faith and celebrated heritage and legacy of jewish american who continued richard every single part of our life so thank you for what you've done for america and for all world to make it a better place. >> may the jewish people shine their light and shine the light of the world for generations to come because we need you badly god bless you all, and god protect our troops. >> thank you for being president biden, speaking live at a jewish american heritage month event at the white house. that's bringing in cnn's kayla tausche at the white house for us and kayla, president biden's remarks pretty timely given today's actions by prosecutors that the international criminal court, which he really criticized. >> yeah. jake, you heard the prayer as forcefully reiterating the idea that there is no equivalence between hamas and israel. that was the basis of his statement in response to the news broken by christiane amanpour that the icc would be seeking arrest warrants for top hamas and israeli leaders, president biden, calling that decision outrageous and and also saying, which has been the us's position, that there is no jurisdiction for the icc to be pursuing this. i asked nsc spokesman john kirby about the position of the us in assisting the icc to document war crimes in ukraine versus its position in this situation. and he said the real difference is one of intent, jake, he said that putin stated strategy and ukraine is to wake up and target civilians and infrastructure there. and that the idf does not do the same and that any civilian death toll while still too high, is inadvertent, jake. >> alright. kayla tausche at the white house. thanks so much. are you heard president biden mentioned israeli-american hostage 20, hersch goldberg polin. he is one of five american hostages still being held by hamas. the four others thought to be alive in gaza. their names and ages when they were kidnapped by the hamas terrorists. and october 7, including 19-year-old e-dawn alexander 22 year-old omar neutron 35-year-olds, tsugi decal han and 64 year-old called keith samuel siegel. the prosecutor at the icc. in addition to all the other news he made today, said that all of the hostages need to be released as soon as possible coming up. this tense political moment for president biden as he tries to address israel's action in gaza and the call for an arrest warrant from prime minister for prime minister benjamin netanyahu we're back in a moment i want a lot of businesses, so my and my network need to keep up. >> thank you. verizon business now our businesses get fast and reliable internet from the same network that powers our phones. >> so whatever is next, we're in which five switch to 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just set her first word? can you say mama never can you say on how many people did you tell only pay for to 908358 i'm tom forming in washington and this is cnn are well-laid now, we just heard moments ago, president biden condemning the call by the international criminal court prosecutors for the arrest of israel's prime minister and defense minister, along with three liters of hamas let's digested all with our panel, aisha how is the, the white house balancing the full support for israel in this case with threats to withhold us weapons for israel's campaign. >> in rafah. he says ironclad support for israel, but there are supporters of israel who say not really, well, well, look, i mean, i think which is on me, i'm just saying yes, but no, but i think what you saw on that speech was him trying to do the balance. what and that's me. she wasn't really balanced and he was saying, look, we are standing with israel period with the icc is doing is horrible and we don't agree with that at all. i obviously went in practice. it's lot more nuance because there are concerns about the operation and rafah and what is happening with civilians. and they are trying to put some pressure on it. now, he's not going to please those on the left who are going to say he's not doing enough, but those who are very supporting israel are going to say that this is not that they are doing a full support. so he as i have said, probably many, many times and we'll say anymore. he's trying to balance. but this is, you know, he's not simone biles karen into the balancing act. >> not only a problem for biden, but for democrats on capitol hill who already the senate has a democrats in the senate have a very very, very rough map and this is none of this conflict makes it easier. >> no, but i think what you saw right from the reporting jake sullivan was still it seems in his media and national security security adviser very firm with regard to concerns about rafah, the ongoing concerns about what's happening with the innocent palestinian population while the president was able to be much tougher and take on the icc and use secretary blinken even undermining the credibility of the investigation by the icc. so i suspect you'll see democrats also trying to walk that line particularly in this moment. ironically, this comes at a time when night now himself was facing trouble or pressure from within, even in its own or cabinet. but obviously it's like, well, wait a second, it's one thing we're criticizing our guy, but you don't get to criticize our guy with such an outrageous charge. >> marc, we saw senator lindsey graham and many republicans really issuing lengthy condemnations of the icc. this afternoon, senator tom scott, tom cotton, rerepublican of arkansas, going so far and i don't even know if this is legal. there would be a ban on icc prosecutors and their families from ever even entering the united states. again, i'm not i'm even i don't even know if if they could do that, but the icc is one of those rare nonpartisan, i think both sides have condemned it. and rightfully so it'd be interesting to seek. i know some world leaders like when the, the late president of iran tried to come to speak to the united nations. there's always that given take about whether the state apartment we'll let them do that or not, but i'm not sure how that works. they always do. so it's probably a good bumper sticker slogan. i want to i want to take i wanted to take a minute. >> we have left in the show to remember alice stewart actually planned to have alice stewart on the panel today beloved conservative commentator but she was taken from us far too early. and suddenly this weekend, we learned on saturday, i wanted to take a moment, karen, because i know you guys were very close and i mark i know. i believe you'd work with her to just talk about your time. i it's just such a it's just so it unimaginable that she's not going to be coming onto the set anymore. you're going to have that thought when i walked in, actually, i'm sorry, i'm going to cry, but we're going to walk into and she's not going to be here again. >> and that's just shocking. she was such a beautiful kind person who just always had a kind word and was encouraging and just with so much integrity. and i really appreciated being able to have conversations with her even though we didn't always agree. >> i know. you never agreed. >> we never agree. but you guys were really liked you read on me, but you but you what you were good friends and mark your on her side, you're conservative but i mean, it's it's just one of the first people i met when i was doing national politics and back in 2016, and she was on the ted cruz campaign, i think at the time, obviously we work together and not knowing that she'd call me two or three times a week, asking me preparing for your show. >> usually like, what do you think might say this versus that? and we'd always catch up and knowing that that calls not coming thing is i don't know what it's just awful and unfair she she apparently died friday night and she her body was found saturday morning. >> she was walking her her beloved dog. and if there's any if there's any comfort in this, it does seem erez of now that it was just a horrible, horrible accidents. and the lead is ending its condolences once is two the two brothers and sister and all of the friends. and there are so many of us of alice stewatewart may memory be a blessing? we will miss you. alice. we'll be right back. >> when you need to prepare for unpredictable adventures, you need whether leisure measured floor liners front and rear seat protector to save the seeds are coming. whether take we can now kit group, you're via with american made products at wheth tech.com, the virus that causes shingles is sleeping did 99% of people over 50 it's lying dormant, waiting and could reactivate shingles, strikes is a painful blistering rash that can last for weeks. >> and he could wake at any 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