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this can be over in a second. just let me and my friends go in again. >> what you just saw is 2024 in los angeles harkening back to the 1930s in europe. and i do not say that lightly. the fear among jews in this country is palpable right now i want to go to cnn's gabe cohen at columbia university. gabe, what's happening right now dana it's a quiet de here at columbia, but obviously it was a chaotic night. >> the center of this police activity that we saw last night was hamilton hall right here where we saw a huge crowd of officers enters through the second story window. here, eventually arresting more than 200 protesters who are here in the building and outside in that encampment that had lasted here for days and now in the last few minutes, we have gotten this new letter in from columbia's president talking about that decision, why it is that they called him the nypd last night to clear out the protesters in this letter, the president writes this drastic escalation of many months of protest activity mainly talking about those protests are storming hamilton hall, pushed the university to the brink, creating a disruptive environment for everyone and raising safety risks to an intolerable level. she adds over the last few months, we have been patient in tolerating unauthorized demonstrations, including the encampment. but of course that now dana has changed here. would that action from the nypd last night and now we are seeing a large police presence today. we know that the school has as a pd to stay here at columbia until may 17 after graduation, there is a lot of confusion because it's a restricted campus right now. we know behind us that those are students, faculty members trying to get onto campus, but only essential faculty and students who live here can get on. we have also heard concerns day anna from student journalists here, i spoke to one who was here covering the protests last night. they were the only ones allowed on the campus other than the protesters. mainstream media has generally been forced this outside the campus students though, who were covering it, were on campus, but this member of the student press told me that he and the other members of the student press were forced to leave by the nypd before they made those arrests. they had to leave to a point where they could not actually see the protests unfolding. take a listen to the concerns he raised me just a little while ago. >> footage that we have from last night is very spares and that footage already raised some troubling questions about the nypd's conduct on the campus. if we add more journalist as student journalist, we would have known much better what actually unfolded in front of hamilton hello. >> meant as we're seeing it today. but of course, we have not been on the campus yet today to see it with our own eyes certainly a lot of questions remain after that nypd activity, the vision he's rules that we have seen as that student journalist raised concern with those or visuals that are coming either from the nypd or the protestors themselves? so a lot of questions still lingering today. >> okay. thank you so much for that report and we thank all of the journalists, especially the student journalist, for help, for helping us tell the story. when to go now to the west coast where violent clashes erupted on the campus of ucla overnight, cnn's stephanie elam joins me now, live from the campus. how's it looking this morning? stephanie things are very calm at this hour. >> now, dana, i can tell you this is where we saw a lot of the malay that was happening overnight. now security just coming back out here at 9:00 a.m. local, coming back out. but as you can see, this is the area of contention last night where these barricades were set up like this with this walkway in between. but you can see they were broken down and you could see that in the video looked like people from this sayyed, we're breaking down the encampment from the pro-palestinian side last night, throwing objects in there as well as looks like some sort of maybe pepper spray or something coming from the other side over here you saw the security and middle trying to keep it safe, but there is visible images of that. there was violence. it looked like blood on the ground here. you could see it on the grass around where we are standing now and we have a new update because of all of this using tla, just tweeting now due to the violence last night that they are closing, or i'm sorry canceling class of classes today and asking students to stay away from i'm this area of the campus after those clashes where you saw fireworks being deployed? we just saw that it was uncomfortable and dangerous. we heard from some of these dude and journalist who actually said that worked for the daily bruyne saying that some of their people were hurt. and so you see some of those signs out here now still and they're asking for the ucla leadership to be accountable and to do something to make it safe for the students that go here. dana yeah. >> and i just earlier this morning saw a statement from the jewish federation of los angeles saying that they are appalled at the violence that took place last night. and even including actions by protesters who do not represent the jewish community or our value. so jewish organizations, taking responsibility and distancing themselves from those who are not acting appropriately the nice to see that on all sides of this. thank you so much, stephanie, appreciate that important report. i want to talk now to my panel about the politics of all of this. cnn's jeff zeleny, jackie kucinich of the boston globe. and it's olin counter young's of the new york times. thank you so much. >> all of you for being here. i want to start with what we have heard. so far from the white house. this is a statement from andrew bates. he's the deputy press secretary, quote president biden respects the right to free expression, but protests must be peaceful and lawful. forcibly taking over buildings is not peaceful. well, it is wrong and hate speech and hate symbols have no place in american now, just keep that up for a second. andrew bates good guy. i'm not this is nothing against andrew bates, but he said deputy press secretary, he certainly not the president who we haven't heard from. he's not the communications director. we haven't heard from me is not the press secretary who we haven't heard from this is very telling that this is what we have so far with everything that's going on from the white house and the president of the united states, i mean, last week, i was traveling with president biden when he was going to new york. and you would think obviously, but just the location and the destination of that. i was going into it thinking out he's kind of make a statement here. he's got to come over and talk to the press about what we're seeing, unraveling and we didn't see that he didn't come over. now, i don't think that's going to be able to last. this is how we've seen in them message on this. so far statements that clearly condemn antisemitism and don't condone violence, calling for peaceful protests. but again, it's written statements and now you're entering also adulation season to present biden is slated to speak, get to graduation ceremonies. you would think that he is going to have to address this as well as reporters you're going to keep asking about this, but there are navigating turkey politics here. usually you would see it's usually republicans attacking democrats for being a party of crime or disorder. you're starting to see though democrats in congress as well as republicans concerned about what's going on, is it tricky though i mean, listen, you've covered joe biden for very long time as have is since he was in the united states senate we know how he feels about this and my understanding is that there is a lot of debate inside the white house about how he should come out. >> but by not coming out, just on the rob politics of this i've talked to some democrats who say that they're worried that he, he looks week and that is one of the central concerns for all biden's supporters in the west wing and beyond about his candidacy for the next six months. is he going to be a strong leader? i was talking to someone who's a longtime biden ally who was trying to explain the context of this and they said this is sort of a confluence of events here where he needs to be a strong leader, but he also normally plays this empathetic role and those two are very much at odds in this matter here, it's complicated without question is you just laid out there are no simple solutions, but if you use history as a guide our friend peter baker at the times this morning reminded us of what joe biden was doing in the protests in 68. he was just finishing she law school. and he said, i wear a suit coat. i'm not a protester. we know that he does not like these images of a disorder, but that is a central worry. just some democrats facing his presidential campaign, is he going to be a strong leader here? are these images of disorder when it's sort of overtake this or in any, even if he does run out the clock on these student protests, because graduation, as you pointed out, is soon perhaps there won't be as many students on campus. these protesters these protesters, but there have been protesters at many of joe biden events, many democratic events at the white house correspondents dinner this past weekend, there was a huge amount of protesting. the fact it until they're able to do something perhaps blinken gets a ceasefire or something like that. he's until that happens, he's going he's going to have to deal with it. >> and jeff. >> yeah absolutely. and jeff, i want to read a part of a letter that you obtained that was sent yesterday to both president biden and president obama, signed by many, many, many hundreds. it looks like of not high-ranking officials, but officials who worked for obama and biden that speak to perhaps why he is has not said he'd president has not said anything yet. president biden, you, not committed not uncommitted voters or third-party candidates are risking a trump presidency. and our democracy by defending the war crimes and agenda of a foreign far-right government. you are ignoring the growing majority of democratic voters who recognize israel's war in gaza as genocide and demand that immediate an immediate and permanent cease-fire. now, i just want to say this that was pointed out to me by a high ranking democrat that, you know what's not in here there's no mention of october 7. there's no mention of what started this. there's a sort of a passing reference to the hostages, including six americans believed to be held in inside gaza. >> and that is one of the perhaps that puts in stark relief the challenge here, because the, as you said at the beginning of the broadcast, october 7 was not that long ago? >> but it is largely fallen out of the immediate conversation that is happening on some of these college campuses and protests. >> but what this letter is, it's the latest in a series of letters. the last one came in november, i believe. and but what's different about this? it's calling for an end to funding for the israeli military operation, which is not likely to happen given what funding was just a passed in congress, but it's also calling for an immediate ceasefire. but what this speaks to is just the really the descent and war within the democratic of progressive left movement here unlike anything we've seen this this has been a divide with this is just this is exacerbated. >> it and we've never and then you've course had this happening in the middle of a very intense presidential campaign. and donald trump is not just letting this happen in a vacuum, he is engaging, he did so last night listen to what he said biden is supposed to be the voice of our country and it's certainly not much of a voice is the voice that nobody's heard. >> and if you look, i don't think he's i don't think he's able to do it. i don't think he's got what it takes to do it, but he's got to he's got he's got a strength that up, but he's got to be heard we've seen this playbook before, even in 2020, i remember when there are protests in portland as well outside of our courthouse, we started to see criminal justice protests breaking out. trump trying to say, look biden is overseeing this disorder and chaos. biden trying to push back on that by showing sort of his police and crime bona fides and law and order bona fides. i think that's the message you're probably going to see moving forward, but again, the reason why this is challenging here is rhetoric only go so far. and unless you have a legitimate ceasefire, unless you have the president coming out and forcefully talking about this unless the reality on the ground changes, i don't know if the pressure will relent. >> all right. >> everybody coming up with everything that we've been talking about, everything going on. you may have missed a big announcement this morning from congresswoman marjorie taylor greene that she does plan to force a so to try to oust house speaker mike johnson, when will that happen and how will it go down? 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answer. i would consider that, yes. >> you would? >> yes. >> absolutely. >> does he expect violence if he loses the election? his answer quote, i don't think we're going to have that. i think we're going to win. and if we don't win, you know, it depends. it always depends on the fairness of an election and he was asked, do you see why so many americans see language like that? you know, dictator for a day suspending the constitution, trump responded, i think a lot of people like that eric quarter, lisa, is the reporter who did that interview and joins the discussion. now. thank you so much for being here wow. take us inside of this conversation. and what you think the takeaway should be for voters. >> well, i interviewed donald trump at mar-a-lago on the friday before he was selling but to become the first former and possibly future president to go on criminal trial and what really struck me from these interviews was that donald trump is planning to seize power in a way that he wasn't able to in the first term, he has a team of disciplined, conservative advisors who are drawing up plans to consolidate power in the office of the presidency and remove the guardrails that hindered his ability to carry out his agenda in full in the first term and jeff zeleny, the other part of this is not just from hearing it from the candidates own words, which is obviously the most important, but also some of his advisers, kellyanne conway, i don't think it's a big mystery. >> what is agenda would be, steve bannon. >> i keep telling people watch these speeches when you look at the content of what he's putting out there, he couldn't telegraph this any more clearly. >> i mean, as as we've long sea and he says the quiet part out loud of phrase, we've used at nauseum since he came and do politics, his, his rallies and speeches are often so long and cluttered with a bunch of different things. it's easy to overlook this, but he has been saying this directly, but just say it directly in an interview is also more striking because she knows the valued real estate of the time magazine cover and this is what he believes is a selling point. he believes this is a strong point and now just amplified by what he calls a need for strong leadership. i think it's even more poignant what we're seeing this week. >> and jackie, i'm going to put up on the screen more information that you got from the former president candidate for president of what, a second term would look like. and we're just starts with allowing states to prosecute women who violate abortion bans. we've talked about immigrants, us attorney's january 6. it all goes down to refusing. this is a big one to come to the aid of nato allies who don't quote, pay up. >> this is, i think one of the differences between what we know, new trump and his first term, and what could potentially be his second term. he knows where the levers of power are in, in the federal government and he has people working to figure out how to bypass those and how to relax some of these things. so he can do what he wants to do. everything you saw there. i don't think other than because roe was still in place, other than punishing women who receive abortions in states where they're not allowed a lot of any tried to do during the first term. and so this would be a very much a continuation is what he's talking about here he had guardrails of people who said no to it and most of those people have either no interest or would not be allowed to go back in. i mean, that was another thing that you've got. he said that he would make it a litmus test if somebody said that they thought the 2020 election was fair, and joe biden won, they would not work in his administration, but i also want to ask you about abortion because you have the current president and vice president out very strongly talking about abortion. they believe that that is what is going to rally democrats to vote. and privately, donald trump doesn't disagree agree with them. having said that, when you asked about whether states should monitor women's pregnancies, so they know if they've gotten abortion. he said, i think they might do that again, you have to speak to the individual states. what was his sort of the vibe that you got from him on this issue? >> well, he knows it's extremely delicate. he knows it's a potential vulnerability for him. he's he takes credit on the one hand for installing three supreme court justices who had a major hand in overturning roe, but doesn't want to alienate the vast majority of american voters who think that abortion rights should be protected. donald trump is right now staking out a position and where he thinks this is a states rights issue and he's going to try and leave it at that as much as he can. when i asked him, sir, are you comfortable with red states monitoring women's bodies to know if they've gotten an abortion and pass the band. he said they might do that when i said, are you comfortable with states punishing women who've gotten abortions after the ban. he said, it's irrelevant. i think because it's up to the states and their determinations. he didn't say he wanted states to do that, but basically said he would allow each state to make their own policies vis-a-vis abortion. and i think that's the ground he's going to try and beyond for the coming months before the election. >> and jackie comments that he made to eric that as you said, we've heard a lot about it and he tried some of it that i think any objective way to look at it would be borderline authoritarianism how much our voters tuned into this, particularly when poll after poll, sees that looking at the trump four years in the rearview mirror there are some rose-colored glasses there i think when when you're talking about the economy, there isn't rose-colored glasses when it comes to trump, but i think the open question and what you're hearing a lot from the biden campaign, they're definitely pointing to this as what could potentially be the future. >> now who's going to win out? 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where he is the only thing we know and many other families know for sure is through proof of life. >> in our case, the last proof of life was in late november, early december by way of testimonies from the hundred or so hostages who came out at that time during that first tranche of, of, of negotiation and we know he was alive, wounded, but alive at that time we do not in most, the vast majority of hostage families still do not know if their loved ones are alive. we have gotten notifications from arguable. it's kibbutz narrows, that of the 39 remaining hostages from our community alone. at least 12 or are dead. they were murdered either on october 7, their bodies taken by hamas into gaza, or they died as a consequence of october 7 so we do not know and and hence, it is clear that there is no time to waste. conditions are horrific. we've always known that and look, we recognize that not just for israel for the region and perhaps the world, hamas needs to be destroyed. there's no question. i don't think they will find someone in israel that would argue that point but it cannot come at the sacrifice of these. what remain alive of the, uh, hundred and 33 hostages. and those who have already passed and their bodies need to be returned to their families. >> we were talking before coming on about the fact that you are a professor inside israel. you are very well aware of the culture of college campuses. obviously israel, not the us you were a student activist high well, in the 80s, you said at barnard fighting against apartheid in south africa, i occupied hamilton hall. >> you did it did you are hearing calls and accusations that israel is an apartheid government. since you know about apartheid, can you get a fact check here you know, i'm gonna hedge a little bit on it because we were fighting a avowedly racist government that talked about a system called apartheid. >> that it was using to a press the majority black population. >> and that is not in south africa. >> what's happening is certainly not what we're looking at and israel, but the issue is, as we were saying, it's it's complicated because there every day playing out on our tvs is destruction and starvation and a horrific images coming from gaza. >> yep and the gods and people people are press, i mean, there is no question about it kamaz is suppressing the gazan people all of these things can be true at once. and yes. and i appreciate you both coming on. and most importantly, keeping the focus on your son and the father of your grandchildren say gay deco khan, hot tsugi deco can and we do, of course, pray for his safe return. >> thank you so much. thank you so much. >> we'll be right back not flossing well then add the wo of listerine to your routine new science shows. >> listerine is five times more effective than plus ev reducing flats above the gum line for a cleaner, healthier mouth this three, feel the work good data, cough. >> oh, no bob, i call later chest congestion hello, 12 hours of relief wow, bowers not offering it. >> got movies, hashtags, del not coffee mucinex, dm, 12 hours hello, or doesn't just quiet coughs. it treats coughs caused by excess mucus at the source and controls number 12 hours. it's come back season. stubborn jess congestion, dry mucinex, 12th well, our right now, you can get a free foot locker of weight just by any foot login to app and get one free. just scan the qr code and enter promo code fal fogbow. it only worked on the other side of the screen but you still got a landline or your house auto noun to subway out when you have moderate to severe eczema, it's okay to show off with depiction. >> show off your clear skin and less itch because you have plenty of reasons to show off your skin with defects in the number one prescribed biologic by dermatologists and allergists, you can stay ahead of your eczema it helps block a key source of inflammation inside the body that can cause eczema to help heal your skin from with it. many adults saw 90% clear skin some even achieved long-lasting clearer skin and fast. it's relief after first dose serious allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems such as eye pain or vision changes, including blurred vision, joint aches and pain for a parasitic infection, don't change or stop asthma medicines without talking to your doctor show off to the world. ask your eczema specialist about two picks it with armor all a little bit of this protects you from a lot of that honore, less work, more clean by $20, get five back through may 31st from tried and true to try something new so many ways to save life, ready wallet, happy. >> that's 3605 by whole foods market one to leave works all day so i can keep working to check. just want to leave 12 hours of uninterrupted pain relief who do you take it for and for fast topical pain relief, child leave x. >> can the riva support your brain health? 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is there a semite group that you can be anti, no, there's not. so if i don't know what anti-semitism is, how can i avoid being anti-symmetric? so the purpose of the book, the purpose of knowing is conversation was it'd be a reflection to society about what we can do to bring fourth piece, bring forth unity, bring forth love, educate yourself, having uncomfortable conversation with education can come i'm empathy and no, it did. >> did you both talk about some of the pain that i'm hearing from jewish liberals that they marched not only in the 60s with african-americans, but even a couple of years ago during, after george floyd, that they don't feel that same camaraderie unnecessarily today yeah, the jewish community feels very isolated and very much alone. >> and both emmanuel and i are very concerned about the schism that has been created between the black and the jewish community. the unity and the partnership between the blacks and the jews is unparalleled in american healing history and the history of the world, the things that we were able to achieve together are extraordinary and neither manual nor i are willing to let that schism continues. so this is really first step in recreating that relationship re-imagining that relationship, because when two marginalized communities are pitted against one another, the powers that be when we can't let that continue anymore. and that's one of the greatest commitments that we want to achieve from this book is this black and jewish unity. yet again, in america manual do a quick add to that before we go to break, i will add very quickly. i will quote james baldwin in the 1968 article of the new york times. and he said, the crisis in the heart and minds of black people anywhere, everywhere is not caused by these star of david, but rather the old rugged roman cross on whom christian dms most prized jew was murdered and not by jews as a son of a pastor myself, i found that quote to be the most profound as it pertains to the dilemma right now, between the black and jewish community and manual noah. thank you. both the three votes are going to continue this conversation. we'll be posting it this afternoon online. thank you, both. and thank you for watching inside politics, cnn news central starts after the break we live our lives on our homes fabrics. and though we come and go, are odors stay, it's called odor transfer, left untreated. those odors get trapped inside fabrics and then really smells into your ehr you need for breeze fabric sure its formula proven to deliver long-lasting odor fighting power. >> so you can enjoy ball laughing, precious, even hours after spraying. the more everyone phrase the. fresher, your full home state. for breeze fabric refresher at morgan stanley old-school hard work meets bold new thinking to help you see untapped possibilities. and relentlessly work with you to make them real you have an excellent warren cheat warranty blurring ci got to go. you must have american home shield i do now. i can tell you appliances in homes systems are protected, covered repairs and replacements are taken care of. warrant she never lies off cookie dough american home shield, don't worry, be warranty did you know there's a way to cut your dishwashing time by 50%. >> try don power, wash, dish, spray. it removes 99% of greece and ghraieb enhanced after time, don power wash has three cleaning boosters not found in traditional dish soaps that remove food and greece five times faster and because it clean so well, you can replace multiple cleaning products for counters, stoves, and even laundry stains. try don power wash, dish spray, brand power helping you buy better doug hello, ghostbusters it's duck of doggedly moon. we help people customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual anyway, we got a bit of a situation here. sure. i can only pay for what you need ghostbusters, frozen empire meters. >> name right now. you get a free foot locker subway just buy it if foot login app and get one free, just scan the qr code and enter promo code fal foe it only