mr. wolf blitzer. he's working is right next door and a place that i like to call now, breaking news, capital states attempt to crack down on protests against the israel hamas police confronting and arresting demonstrators at the university of texas at austin. i'm in new york, columbia university announced again has begun suspending students who defied an ultimatum to clear in cabinets we'll talk live with the new york city mayor eric adams. this hour and cnn is on the scene of the growing turmoil and dissent on multiple campuses from coast to coast. the crisis had gaza sparking a crisis right here at home that we're covering from every angle live that in-depth. this hour welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, and this is the situation room spec so report the skis cnn, breaking news, our first let's go to the university of texas at austin. >> that's where cmm add 11. there is on the scene for us as we've seen, multiple arrests on campus in the last few followers, what's happening right now well, we have seen dozens of arrest tickets. >> we don't have any exact number so far. number of arrests have taking place on this campus, but right now as the protests group that had set up camp in the south ball of the university here in austin troopers sacral troopers, and local police cleared that crowd out. >> now, in that bus that you see there in the distance, it says out of service, that's actually one of the buses that was used to bring in state troopers. >> and now many of these protesters have essentially been chanting at the officers to get off campus and for better part, about a quarter of a mile through campus they are basically trying to get this bus off of campus. now, the troopers had already cleaned out the camp site. it appears that they were already shutting down operations, but these protesters in very tense situations here this afternoon, champion at these officers to get off of the campus at one point, we heard a number of would have sounded like tear gas gas canisters that were deployed to disperse the crowd. but that has continued. we've seen a number of students or protesters pepper sprayed here, but this scene continues to move as this bus is essentially going in reverse, it would not the way that it would normally have just driven out of campus, but because of the crowd of people that is surrounded i'm in the bus. they are pushing it, and forcing it to go in reverse morph back its way out of this area of campus where the roads are very tight, very difficult situation so the tense situation here continues as we await to see if this bus full of state troopers is going to be able to safely get off off the campus here at this moment, wolf, do we have any idea how many students have actually been arrested at the university of texas? >> we don't know yet. we were counting as the arrests were being made we got up to about 15 or 20 and kind of lost count and then some people were allowed to leave the protest area. so we do not have an official number on the number of people that were arrested, but that campsite in the area where the protesters heads set up ground had dozens and dozens of people inside of it. so some people were allowed to leave without being taken into custody. other people were taken into custody. but at this point, we just don't have an official number yet and add i know that's a some students have been arrested, but i have other students been suspended from the university as far as we know, we do not know of any students that have been suspended the or the group that organized the palace. palestinian solidarity committee, the student organization that organized the protest last week that organization has been temporarily suspended we do not know the level of their participation in what has unfolded here today. university officials in a statement just a short while ago said that it was another group that had organized the protest that escalated into this situation here today, but they did not name that group. so we're not exactly clear as to just who was involved in that. university officials are also quick to point out that they believe that the majority of the people who were involved in the protest on the campus here today or not, students so that's another detail we're having to dig into here as we get more information on who was arrested today. >> i know you're constantly i think getting more information and i want you to stand by will get back to you. but right now i want to go to cnn's miguel marquez. he's over at columbia university in new york city. miguel, some protesters who defied a demand to clear in cabinets are now being suspended from the university. is that right? >> what we don't know exactly how that's going to work. university said as of 2:00 p.m. eastern time today, if they did not clear that encampment, they face suspension or expulsion. so there's tension inside campus is also tension outside campus. there were several dozen protesters at one point today, only a few left now, but the tension here at columbia university and the standoff is not clear how it will be resolved protesting students at new york's columbia university standing there ground in their pro-palestinian encampment after they say talks between protesters and the administration, wrote down we were engaging in good-faith negotiations until the administration cut off under threat up suspensions, protesters inside and outside the ivy league campus after a deadline passed, refusing to leave until their demands are met that we had construct the university divests from israel in circling the protest encampment on college grounds we're here to protect the students even after administrators said a hard deadline today to clear the way for a graduation ceremony the tensions on display outside columbia's main gates. as well one woman forcibly removed by the new york city police department the pressure ramping up during final exam week, the university threatening suspensions expulsions, but promising protesters, they would be eligible to complete the semester in good standing if they sign a form promising to abide by university policies through june 2025. the tactic and earlier, police involvement in moving protesters has failed to disband the encampment the protestors saying he is repulsive scare tactics mean nothing compared to the deaths of over 34,000 palestinians. >> the majority of columbia students just trying to get through finals. >> these circumstances have made things especially difficult. most of my classes actually, last week have been canceled outright. >> the groundswell of protests here growing in recent weeks. it set off a wave of protests, encampments at universities nationwide state troopers pushing back against protesters at the university of texas today, coming after nearly 60 arrests last week, emotion rising with graduation. just weeks away. but for many colleges, the fallout, continues. and we're university's faculty now calling for a vote of no confidence of president gregory fenves after two professors were arrested and students faced pepper balls and tasers, the president saying, in a statement today he found the videos to be deeply distressing and apologizing to students for an earlier statement in which he said the people behind the encampment on the quad, we're not members of the emory community coming at a time. many universities are struggling to balance the right to free speech while protecting their student's ability to pursue their education to question is, where this goes from now, from here on forward. columbia university two weeks ago, arrested 108 students that then cause this backlash. and anger across the country and the encampments at other universities, the university first he is saying that they will not call police in immediately. but protesters say they're not going to leave unless they are forced out. the question now is, when will push comes to shove? >> well, i will stay in touch with you as well. miguel marc marquez over at columbia university in new york, joining us on the phone right now, the mayor of new york city area eric adams, mega. thank you very much for joining us. i know this is an incredibly anxious and busy time for you. we're showing our viewers right now some pictures from the university of texas at austin. this is happening right now. this has columbia university in your city of d'arc has begun to threaten at least start suspending students as demonstrators. so standing there ground, what do you make of these scenes well, first of all, i want to push back when the comments that was made, that because it police department when or in columbia grounds after they were asked to come in, that is sparked is wave of protests that is not true. >> you've had over i believe protests in the city that were peacefully managed by the new york city police department dealing with after the after the massacre on october 7. and we're going to continue to respect the school's abilities to determine how they want to resolve these issues protests is part of the foundation of our society. i protest as a young person, as a college students, to dismantle apartheid. we know a protest is, but it's not illegal to protest. but his immoral to call for the destruction of group or race, or ethnicity. an estimated, that is what's put the consciousness of many people when the city. >> so mayor, what's your message to the students at columbia right now as mayor, how are you monitoring the situation to ensure that all the students, the faculty, and the others on the campus are safe. >> if you do an analysis, you are seeing that there are no injuries to students, there are no injuries to the protest is the police department, as maintain of the discipline that is needed we can not go on college grounds without the permission of the faculty to president and the other members of the institutions. if they request us to go on to dismiss two tenths or any illegal behavior will do so or visit imminent threat to someone's life or serious the property, we will also go on the grounds as well. >> as, you know, may or columbia university vowed not to bring in bring back a nypd to the campus after it arrested more than 100 protesters last week saying it would be quote counterproductive and further inflaming what is happening on campus, what other resources can new york offer to help to try to dsc escalate this situation well, first, they request of not having police back on the grounds that comes with an asterisk. >> they did request we go to nypd pdi goes to the various interests entry point because they were finding that a large number of people who will on the grounds and not attended schools. you've seen that there are individuals who are not students that are playing a major role in the organizing are some of the disruptive behavior like we saw at nyu were bottles and chairs. chairs were thrown at the police while they were there. and so our goal is to continue to have the meetings, the compensation and breen people together, various religious and ethnic groups to see how we can play a major role in turning down the temperature so that we can all live in a city in uniform manner, allow people to voice their concerns. but we should do it without someone they discussed then hatred, tone tones that we heard, and we will not tolerate any violence in the city. there's no hate in this city. >> that's how that happens. mayor, thanks so much for joining us, the new york city mayor eric adams, good luck to you. a good luck to everyone in new york right now. >> thank you. take care. thank you. and just ahead as columbia university begins sending some protesters i'll talk to a lead student negotiator about demonstrators demands of the university. >> and we'll also go live to los angeles and a major walkout by ucla students stay with us. >> you're watching a situation room, special report erin burnett 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university of texas in austin want to check back with cnn's ed lavendera is on the scene for us and give us an update well, we continue to monitor the situation where the heavy law enforcement presence that was here on the campus is trying to what appears to be just leave the situation either dozens of our state troopers get were brought in as well as other local police officers. and after the encampment area was cleared in one part of campus they started being followed by many of the protesters that were protesters outside of that area. >> and it has become rather tense. it's at some point some sort of we've seen a number of officer of pepper spraying some with the protesters that didn't following and essentially forcing one bus full of state troopers to back its way out of out of the area. we had heard a couple of loud explosion kim's to stop here, but we just sound disbursement or who is in kind of pepper spray or an irritant that was involved in that. i just don't know at this point, we did see number of people who are trying to get their eyes treated for something that was discredited. i'm so some sort of dispersive mice might have been deployed at some point. we don't know if this is continues to unfold. here. you can see this line of officers that have been kind of keep officers away from this bus and this is the bus that has brought in many of the other officers that were here. or there will be used in the crowd control and arresting approaches justice had set up the captain the palestinian protest started several hours ago, but we're now well into the disruption here on campus four or five hours now, that this has can you a really know exactly clear part of the group that was following the officers broke into, broke broke into two parts. one group following the officers and trying enchanting them, champion at them to leave stephen the campus. another one went back to the original area where the encampment had been set up. we've lost sight of that, so we don't know exactly what's unfolding in that situation, but clearly tensions continued to escalate and can do continue to be very high here on the campus of the university of texas. i will stay in close touch with you and thank you very much for that update. >> rosseau, following the breaking news over at columbia university in new york, were students at the campus encampment are beginning to face suspension from the university joining us now, a lead negotiator for the students coalition at columbia university not moon qualia ulama with thank you so much for taking a few moments with us. we have we have you heard from your fellow students at columbia about these suspensions? is there any police involvement as far as you know right now so as far as as 05 now, there's no police involvement. >> this was mentioned and then the president's email two days ago when she assured the community that in at bringing nypd onto campus would be counterproductive? this is again, our our position as well. the student of course see, see this as another certain ink intimidation tactic from the university to make them acne of the area and stop their activism against their work and palestine what does it mean for you, bakhmut as a palestinian student debt clock? >> university to see these protests are unfolding at schools all across the united states. how does this moment resonate for you personally of course, i'm very very humbled by, by, by this support of all these people, especially as a student who is not protected at this, at this university and the fact that now hundreds of thousands of students across the united states and the world, they are revolting against against their administration today vests from deseret occupation is a huge thing. >> what we're witnessing right now is an anti-war movement across, across the united states is not as not only the, on college level, it's more of an international and national level. >> why are so many of your fellow students participating in this movement especially at columbia university where you are a student, despite the possibility of retaliation from the university because we'll over the past six months and these students, they have witnessed the killing of over 34,000 palestinians and gaza. >> and despite all of this density tuition, columbia, please has only pushed one narrative and anti-palestinian narrative on campus. they told that they are alienated. they feel that the universities is very biased against, against them, against get activism. and rather than university answering to their, to their demands, the university only did more more depression. and more disciplinary against against business now, now, columbia sees this as an internal internal, a student internal disciplinary matter rather than an anti-war movement. on campus that that's that's that's asking you to bring columbia to it his mortal and ethical principles. >> macbook, as you know, threats and fear of violence have driven many jewish students from the campus at columbia what do you say to people who say the campus is now an unsafe place for jewish students? >> once again, i would say that the liberation of palestine and the palestinians and the jewish people are intertwined. they go hand in hand anti-system semitism, and any other form of racism has no place on this campus. and, in this movement, in fact if people come, come to this encampment, it's, it's motive of a community for students where we had a lot of a lot of israel students come in into the encampment they broke bread with, with other students and also it was more of fulfill from a multi-religious, a space where we had muslim prayers, we had yesterday, we we celebrated the shabat and that was on saturday and yesterday we had a sermon as well. we also over the week, we have every every day we celebrated the passover which slit which, which says which led by jewish voices for peace, who are an integral part of this movement. columbia university remarkable 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one of the iconic buildings here on campus hundreds of them. i would say a lot of students, some faculty, making their voices heard. now, here, we've been speaking to some jewish students who were just upset and annoyed that they can't walk around on their own campus. the reason for this, this camp has been here since thursday. it was pretty small to start with, then the counterprotest started and there was a bit of friction between the two sides one barrier was put up. they breach that barrier sunday, there were some scuffles between the sides and that's when the college brought in this buffer zone. and it is still here. we are not allowed to cross. now, the pro-palestinian sayyed, the pro-israeli side tell us they're not plan and again, big for tonight, but what they do have yesterday afternoon, they set up this video screen here just by the pro-palestinian encampment that is showing, you can't really see in the sunlight. but those are scenes from october 7. they're showing they're playing testimony from october 7. >> and it is loud and that is probably going to go on through the night. >> so how did this ends? it's unclear. i mean, the protesters say they want divestment. the uc university system says that's not gonna happen. they're trying to balance freedom of speech, safety, and also the mission of this college, which is after all, let's not forget to educate and to learn, wealth. nick watt on the campus of ucla. thank you very much. let's discuss what's going on with congressman rokhaya, democrat of california, congressman. thanks so much for joining us. let me get your reaction. first of all, to what we're seeing, not just at ucla, but at the university of texas at austin. and indeed across the country were colleges, universities person, these are cracking down on demonstrations. how should these universities be approaching the protests on their campuses well, if we have to start with remembering kent state and jackson state and not be calling armed police or the national guard or just that threatening to expel or suspense students if they're engaged in free speech at the same time, there needs to be absolute moral clarity that anti-semitism is wrong. >> islamophobia is wrong. you can have people chanting to globalize the intifada or to say that zionists don't deserve to live in there needs to be very clear moral condemnation of that. >> the biden campaign, as you well know, congressman has been relying on you, among others, but especially you to reach out to younger americans, take us inside those conversations you've had, what our students telling you about their concerns with president biden's handling of the israel-hamas tor and what's been your message to them well, if one of the things i hope people would look at is i was in wisconsin and i went to six campuses from all clear to lacrosse, to stevens point and young people, arab americans, a jewish americans we're having conversations in such a constructive, wonderful way. >> we're gonna be putting out some of the videos because i don't think the american people understand how thoughtful some of the students are in many of the campuses, they see some of the protests but look, i mean the young people, they're headed concerned about abortion rights. that was the number one issue. they had a concern an economics, of course, they're concerned about gaza. they want the war to end and many of them won a permanent ceasefire in a release of the hostages. and i've conveyed that to president biden's team are new cnn poll just released this weekend, shows 81% of voters under the age of 35 disapprove of president biden's handling of this war in gaza. how does the president turned that around? and when his actions so far are clearly not breaking through i think he's starting to turn around by holding netanyahu accountable, by empathizing thank with the extraordinary loss of life are women and children. i know from talking to president biden, standing there, seeing his expressions that he feels the responsibility and the gravity. but the two things i think he needs to do is make it clear to netanyahu that we cannot have offensive weapons if he goes into rafah in defiance what our military is saying is, is not a good strategic move. >> as you probably know, ahead of next week, state department deadline to determine whether us weapons are being used by israel in line with international law. do you believe israel has violated international law? so what consequences should there be well, i'll leave that for the state department for the international bodies and for the lawyers. >> but i do think as president biden himself and said that the bombing has let's begin indiscriminate and the biggest consequences should be not having more offensive weapons. i have voted consistently in the past for aid and for iron dome and david's arrow. but to give more bombs and effect since a weapons, if there, if netanyahu continues to defy the administration, i just don't 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that is now being put forward to the rest of the faculty of the letters of carts college of arts and sciences that referendum will be tallied by wednesday. but i mentioned that fall out continuing, we caught up with one of those professors who was detained. i want to show you the video of another one of those professors who was detained, however, karelin we'll get back to nick shortly, but that was really, really awful to see how those police officers were bringing that the woman, a university professor over at emory, down like that, want to get back to columbia university right now. >> and the protests, they're rejoined by the president of columbia student groups supporting israel eden yada gar edan. thank you very much for joining us. you left campus earlier than you were planning to why did you feel the need to do that thank you so much for having me wolfe unfortunately, there's a crisis unfolding on columbia's campus right now. >> and this doesn't come as a surprise to the jewish community. we have been sounding the alarm for months. and right now we're witnessing the culmination of what has been six months of pervasive anti-semitism that has been completely ignored and avoided and sidestepped by our university leadership. and unfortunately, as a result, now jewish students have been harassed, has been assaulted, have been stalked on campus. >> my friends were threatened to go back to poland. other protesters on campus have thrown rocks water, and fake blood at jewish students. >> a friend of mine had his israeli flags stolen, set on fire. and then when he tried to stop the mob from doing so, he was cornered, shoved, and hit we've been barred from entering places on our own campus particularly in regards to the south lawn where the encampment is this this is our campus as well, and these are things that have happened on our campus. and our leadership has failed to keep jewish students safe. and so that is a big part of why i left early for passover columbia university, as you know, edan has begun to suspend protesters do support this does this step from your perspective, go foreign unfortunately, columbia has conditioned it's students to believe that they can repeatedly violate rules without consequences. that's what we've seen over the last six months. and so now we see students within the encampment claiming that they run this effing university, which was something that was said last night and now they are explicitly admitting in press conferences that they will not be moved unless it is by force so i think it is unfortunate that we've gotten to a point where suspensions are necessary. but the university has proven in competent in dealing with the situation and in following through with their words. so despite the fact that they have, as they should, issued many suspensions, they've actually gone back and reversed many of them, which most of the jewish community that we are an afterthought. and then our safety isn't a priority the protesters say they want to express their opposition to the war against hamas in gaza. >> and the deaths of palestinian civilians there. this is something you have concerns about as well. what's your message to the students in this? sinn cabinet i think there are some very interesting parallels actually to be drawn between the strategies that we're seeing being used in the war between israel and hamas. >> and what we're seeing on campus right now. so as an example, hamas has been offered multiple ceasefire deals by israel and has rejected all of them at columbia, those protesting with the encampment have been in negotiations with the university despite repeatedly violating university's policies and codes of conduct. and despite being offered several proposed proposals from the university to try and meet in the middle these protesters have flat out rejected did them. and i think what's so important to note is that one of the proposals that the university offered was to invest in health and education in gaza. and that included providing support for displaced academics. there and so it makes me wonder if the goal of this movement were really to improve life for policy justinian's and gazans. why on earth are they rejecting that? i wouldn't have rejected that. i think the majority of my jewish peers wouldn't have rejected that it's been made incredibly clear that this movement functions around shutting things down, rather than building things up they are unwilling to collaborate. and even when they do collaborate, because they've put themselves in a situation in which the university has towered to this mob they are rejecting proposals that would help the very people they claim to the advocated for the hypocrisy i find to be incredibly astounding. >> but it is really no wonder that this mob of pro hamas protesters has rejected these opportunities that are actually trying to help the people of gaza because that is not their focus. even the odegaard. thank you so much for 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there may be a path out, a way out of this conflict. and that is with these renewed ceasefire talks between israel and hamas with the new egyptian proposal trying to push things forward smoke from the latest israeli airstrike rises near the tense of the displaced in rafah. >> and he could get much worse. >> israel is threatening a major ground offensive here. >> this but far from the bombs and bullets another path is emerging egypt putting forward a new framework worked for ceasefire and hostage deal. but there is a proposal on the table up to the two sides to consider and accept. but certainly the objective is ceasefire under the latest proposal and israeli source and a foreign diplomatic source tells cnn that hamas would release between 20303 hostages it's an exchange for a pause in the fighting and the release of hundreds of palestinian prisoners over several weeks, palestinians would also get unrestricted access to northern gaza, a new israeli concession, israel and hamas would then agree to what diplomats are calling the restoration of sustainable calm. a one-year ceasefire that would see israeli troops withdraw from gaza. and the release of the remaining israeli hostages. >> hamas has before to proposal that is extraordinarily extraordinarily generous. >> on the part of israel and in this moment, the only thing standing between the people of gaza and a ceasefire is hamas. as israeli officials expect, hamas is leader in gaza to respond in the coming days, hostage families are driving up the pressure on the israeli government i know that feeling of losing hope bring kids back to me bring back my hope bring keith and all the hostages. >> they lives back we can't handle anymore. >> we've had enough failing to reach a deal, only promises more pain for those hostage families and more unspeakable grief in rafah israeli airstrikes, killing 22 people overnight in rafah, according to hospital officials including five children, nestled among the body bags, the small 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against the vietnam war. they marched on campus, they occupied buildings one day in 1969 students at harvard university pinned to list of demands on the door of the harvard president's house. and at one point, they lead as faculty members, are they occupied? buildings including university hall and lead faculty members out the door there. but a big difference between those protests and the 60s and early 70s and the protests going on now was simply the level of violence, the scale of the violence, the current pro-palestinian protests have been for the most part, very peaceful, but in the vietnam era, as you've seen, some of these videos while the protests started peacefully, many of them turned violent. students barricaded themselves in buildings. they fought with police in 1968, students at columbia university and its affiliate barnard college, they took over several campus buildings and even briefly took the dean hostage before police cracked down on them. sometimes violently. the most infamous this episode though, occurred at kent state university in ohio in may of 1970. that's when ohio national guard troops opened fire on student protesters. >> they killed four of them and they injured several others. >> but maybe a better comparison to what's going on now in the tactics of the current protests. well, that can comparison might have taken place in the 1980s, students cross the country, protested on campuses against apartheid in south africa. they called on schools to divest themselves from companies and groups that supported the apartheid regime in south africa. that was much like students are doing now, calling on colleges to divest themselves from israeli companies. and then as now, wolf, columbia university at the very center of that movement, wolfe and brian as far as those protests in the 60s and 80s are concerned, what actual change did they bring about? they actually did bring about more change wolf than many people really believe the protests of the 60s 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