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of gunfire is people are running for their lives let's there, that's shocking. video shows those concert goers running as attackers go on a shooting rampage inside the popular music hall and shopping center friday night, officials say more than 100 people are dead and dozens others injured. isis is claiming responsibility for the massacre. cnn's fred pleitgen has been falling in the story closely enjoins us with the latest. so fred, what more russian officials saying about the suspects here >> either on my yeah, one of the interesting things that they're not saying is they're not saying that they believe that isis was actually behind all this course. we know that there is that claim by isis at the same time, the us says they have no reason to doubt that claim over fonts, the ability from isis, the russian so far not going in that direction yet. they say that they've apprehended 11 people so far. they say four of them are the attackers who went inside that shopping center and events center in near moscow on friday night and shot that place up. the investigation that of course still ongoing at the same time i'm you still actually have firefighters and rescue crews on the scene there as the blaze isn't fully out, here's what we're learning the burned-out shell of the crocus city hall just outside moscow, even half a day after the attacks, parts of the rubble still smoldering the local governor serving the places where gunman killed so many two here and three there. governor under a vote of yoav asks three here they say hundreds of firefighters still on the scene of what russian president vladimir putin called, quote, a bloody and barbaric attack his security services on high alert. >> you could he do running in all regions of the country additional np terrorists and np sabotage measures have been introduced the main thing now is to prevent those who are behind this bloodbath from committing a new crime >> it was friday evening when the attackers went on their rampage firing at people point blank eyewitnesses say killing men, women, and children, then setting the concert hall ablaze friends and family standing by, hoping for news of their loved ones. authorities searching for the many still missing studios and unanimous bonus, i don't know what to do this, man there's desperate for news of his wife. i feel completely hopeless >> moscow's >> hospitals flooded with dozens of injured russian authorities say that death toll we'll likely continue to rise >> thank you in advance for your patience. >> the us said it had warned moscow about the threat of a terror attack and isis has claimed responsibility. but russian authorities seem intent on blaming someone else after several arrests overnight, the kremlin pointing the finger at chi good enough is bone utility. are all stored directly of the terrorist attack. all those shot and killed people were found in detail if they tried to hide egoless and move towards ukraine where according to preliminary data. a window was prepared for them on the cranes side, i can to cross the state border ukraine denies the allegations, key of saying they had nothing to do with the attack near the scene of the attack, many are laying flowers in memory of the victims, vladimir putin has declared sunday a day of mourning, promising a russia united in grief and retribution turning oblivion for those behind the attack >> you no. o'mara. as far as the death toll is concerned, it is the worst terror attack in russia in several decades. now, the russians, this evening are saying that the interrogations of the suspects are continuing. they also say that none of the suspects have a russian citizenship. omar and fried, of course, there are fears that that's a death toll that could rise even higher as well. thank you so much for your reporting. i wanna go to more analysis on this, so let's turn to cnn global affairs analyst kim dozer is so kim, i just want to start with are you surprised at the scale of this massive attack on moscow? >> well, you think of moscow as the capital of a country that is waging a war next door and regularly deals with things like drone strikes. so i was surprised that there wasn't a higher level of security able to respond faster at the same time, this was for attackers in a pact venue, thousands of people with high capacity, high-power rifles. i think it just shows the deadliness of that type of weapon i also think that there will be questions asked about the lack of response time, but the us had warned that there might be some sort of attack at, the same time, the fsb had foiled a planned isis attack. it said against a synagogue so perhaps the russians thought that they'd already captured the plotters yeah, as >> fred report and as you just mentioned, the us did warn russia about a possible attack, but but do you think the rocky relationship between the two countries may have led russia to ignore the critical intel here at the very least, be skeptical of what the us may have been saying here. >> well russia and the us used to have really good and close cooperation especially in on counter-terrorism >> that >> said, especially the way the two nations are at odds right now. that means that yes, the us probably shared as much as it felt it could. but, you really only trust intelligence when you can see a lot of the sources and methods the way that intelligence analysts came to their judgment, that this is something that might be coming to pass and the us might've been very limited on how much of that detail it could share because it didn't want to reveal what it. had penetrated in terms of networks, et to russian intelligence services. so perhaps the warning was fairly generic and it wasn't enough for the russians to track down on their side of things yeah. >> and look while it appears at this point that this attack was perpetrated by isis, russia, of course, is in the middle of its war with ukraine and the kremlin has pointed out saying these were arrested trying to cross into ukraine across according to state media outlets while a ukrainian defense official says it's false and just absurd for putin declaimed that ukraine was involved in this attack at all. and i'm just curious from your perspective, do you expect putin to keep up that line of at the very least, allegations as he tries to rally russians to support this ongoing war yeah, putin is looking for a fall guy >> they've got to >> blame this on someone other than the russian security services someone other than a russian president who has put all of his attention on an offensive war next door, as opposed to to protecting his own people from an ongoing isis threat. isis has attacked the russian embassy in afghanistan and there have been several plots that the fsb, the russian security services, have talked about disrupting over the past several weeks and months so the threat is real. he doesn't want to be left holding the bag and he needs to gin up more support as you say, from his own people for this continuing war in ukraine. so he's putting enough chaff out there too muddy this picture and make people look over the border at ukrainians. i'll be interested to see if the us decides to declassify some war of its own intelligence to say no, this, this wasn't kyiv. this was isis all by itself. >> yeah. >> yeah. it'll be interesting to see how the information develops coming out of this obviously is still an ongoing investigation here. kim dozer. thank you so much for the time all right. >> fani willis, the fulton county district attorney, leading georgia's election subversion case against former president trump is speaking out for the first time since the hearing that could have removed her from the case. and the prosecutor tells cnn today, she doesn't believe georgia's case has been slowed down and his warning, president trump, quote, the train is coming. cnn's rafael romo joins us now at the latest rafael, your teams spoke with the district attorney just just a short time ago. what she say that's right. a >> monitor, it will say there are very dedicated producer j to tim garcia who managed to get that interview fulton county district attorney fani willis spent her saturday hey, i don't easter egg hunt. the event was put together by wave, an organization of law enforcement officers dedicated to helping children and the homeless throughout the year. willis was surprisingly candid all my regarding questions about the last few months of her life, including her georgia election interference case against donald trump in this candle brought about by her romantic relationship with the special prosecutor she appointed for the case. after everything that's happened, we wanted to know if she feels she needs to reclaim her reputation and this was her reply. let's take a listen. >> i don't feel like my reputation needs to be reclaimed. let's say for the record, i'm not embarrassed. mighty thing. i've done i guess my greatest prime is i had a relationship with a man, but that's not something that i find embarrassing in any way and i know that i have not done anything that's illegal >> and omar, you may remember that the racketeering case was delayed by two months following the embarrassing revelations about her personal life, her credibility was also damaged in the eyes of judge scott mcafee, but the embattled fulton county district attorney said her team never never left the main case. it was not delayed because of stoppage working on the case. this is how she put it. let's take a listen. >> all why, that was going on. we were right and responsive briefs. we were still doing the case and the way that it needed to be done. i don't feel like we've been slowed down at all. i do think that there are efforts to slow down its train, but the train is coming >> you heard that, right? o'mara, she said the train is coming, as cnn reported exclusively on thursday. willis plans to press ahead with her goal of putting donald trump on trial before the november election. according to three people familiar with her plans, he also intends to ask the judge presiding over the georgia criminal case to schedule a trial date as soon as this summer and finally, and this is very important to remember, omar willis is seeking to get reelected in november, a lot on her plate by a lot on her plate. and a lot on the former president's play. as we may see, play out over the course of this year. rafael ramos. thank you. you so much. also a global outpouring of love and support tonight for princess kate after her shocking cancer revelation that put an end to months of at times wild speculation. but it also sparks new concern about her and the royal family. you're in the cnn newsroom will have more coming up the source. >> with kaitlan collins week nights at nine we've come from a long ladder, cowboys when i see >> all was at illinois rich, i see how far. i'll legacy can go i do first, we don't make footwear makes shock 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hadn't seen kate for so long. a lot of mystery around that and a lot of questions about how the palace was acting. and then extraordinary, video came out from the princess explaining why she hadn't revealed more detail sooner. and that was because there was a long process of dealing with major surgery as we now know it was and then getting the diagnosis going into the treatment for that. so chemo starting in late february, i've been told and then really dealing with the kids and how they can process this and not be at school the same time. so they broke up from school yesterday. so that was an opportunity for the rest of the world to be informed and take william to really subtle huddle down with the kids it's been made very clear by kate and william that they now really want some privacy and they really appealing to the media and the public to get that privacy because she needs to recover the need to protect the kids and when you speak to people in london throughout the day, a very different tone today, not the questions i've been asked endlessly about where is she much more about i hope she's okay or how how should we act now, people want to talk about is still but they stepped back from the debate a lot more in the conversation online is really calmed down as well. few questions still about the medical condition people are genuinely concerned about her. so we're joined by dr. tiffany chow, so sandoval, who is an expert in this area of medicine. i thank you so much for joining us dr. i mean, we have been asked to respect the princess is privacy. they're not going to tell us what type of cancer this is, but just take us through the mindset of a patient in this position and how important privacy is in the recovery process >> yeah, absolutely. and that's thank you so much for having me here and let me just take one moment to express how deeply sorry, i am for the princess and her family to have to endure this cancer journey. is that my heart does go out to them >> as for her mindset, this is, this is one of the difficult parts of being a young woman married children, or any person that's undergoing cancer therapy, there's a lot of overwhelm and fear, especially lack of understanding of what's going on there's a lot for her to deal with emotionally, not to mention physically >> in terms of what can she can say, of course patient privacy is something everyone deserves. write a medical privacy but in terms of we know that she's got chemo and we would know that she's the early stages of that. just let us know about how she can actually get too much information about that because you don't know how she's going to respond to the chemo. and it could go on for a very long time, couldn't it? it could be over relative to be as well >> sure. so this is a difficult situation for any dr. to comment on this because the last thing you want your dr. to do is to speculate at all. we work we're scientists, we worked with tax >> that being said, we know what cancers are most common, to occur in this manner. and lifting is that they did mention that there's the cancer is in early stage. it was found unexpectedly, and that this is preventative or in other words adjuvant chemotherapy that you hopefully help prevent the cancer from coming back. so we are most likely looking at a curative situation she's 142. i think that was one of the big shocks here, certainly in the uk, such a young, vibrant figure being diagnosed with cancer i think what's really resonated with a lot of our audience is that could have happened to me. and it was only discovered because she was going in for another procedure. how can people respond to that themselves? how can they be sure that they don't have cancer? i know that sounds like a ridiculous question, but that's what a lot of people are asking today >> there are course. >> the other thing to know is that we >> don't know a lot of the other details. i don't know if there's a family history of cancer and kate's family? i don't know what other risk factors she may have medically to predispose her to cancer and i certainly wouldn't want all of our 40-year-old women walking around council think that they're walking time bombs waiting to have cancer because they're not it's extremely rare. and most of the time as long as you know your body, you will notice that there's something abnormal and you have to bring it to your doctors attention and make sure that you advocate for yourself. especially if you don't have it, you're getting the answers that you i would suspect that they knew something was wrong, obviously because kaitlan for us called it a surgical procedure. so this was there was something wrong and she knew it. and obviously she didn't expect it to be cancer but her body told her when there was something wrong, it's just sought out the attention she needed >> yes, i'm missing chip roy sorry. carry on. >> yeah. >> i was just going to mention that there are many routine screening examination that are normally recommended for young women routine mammogram and usually begun in the '40s cervical examinations with the pap smear, pulling out have been moving earlier and earlier in a patient's lifetime to screen for early colon cancer as well. so i think it's very important to remember to keep a for an regular follow up with your doctors and for screening i talked to typically trust sound at all really appreciate your expertise today still a big talking point, but omar, i the talking point has died down. this huge conversation, one that i've never really seen before if a period of weeks, how it all exploded into these conspiracy theories has finally calmed down. i think a lot of people are paying tribute actually to the honesty that kate showed in that video. and i think people are find it now to give that privacy to rebuild herself, but also to protect her family. >> yeah. and i think i speak for everyone when it was incredible to see how wild some of these 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that we must do >> the family's >> here, admin extraordinary leaders and advocates so i figured family's name met her meet, and we might never know there issues like it's based on the week only conceivable emergency being potentially a fire and so constructing them arms systems actuation systems based on a fire alarm or some families chair for me, we've seen anything major three talent and torques was done higher >> we have learned about what we need to do in terms of how we construct some terms of the safety of the class in this moment frozen where the last really worth for this the children, the students, and their teachers will at the context of what here in terms of water when there is a shooter drill trained and we want to thinking about how vegan meat better in terms of empowering families and communities there was knowledge that someone might be a them selves or others. and smart in terms of how people to share that information >> so that communities >> and schools and parents not only protect themselves how will we love grading our system, technologies >> called lysis. most of our schools do we have systems of communication that actually talk with each other technologically if anyone says, well, this is a matter of resources. i'd invite you >> to really consider the resources in our children and school officials that we have lost because of what has been happening in our country i want to talk specifically as the head of the white house office on gun violence prevention about what we must do to continue to elevate our collective concern and empathy around the tragedy in a way that we translated into solutions >> part of >> what the president nine have been able to do is invest about 1 billion into as of now, about 14,000 new mental health professionals being the batched to our public schools to be a resource in the school that hopefully the way that the protocols are developed will not only be there to react to a concern, but will also be there to engage in prevention through intervention and details section and training those professionals with the information that we actually have that helps people to see the signs and then communicate them by obligation and by responsibility so that we can avoid predictable tragedies red flag laws red flag laws are simply designed to allow communities a vehicle through which they can share and have somewhere to share it information about the concern about the potential danger i'm sure. >> or the crying out for help >> of an individual. and then let's give it to them >> before tragedy occurs. there are only about 21 states have passed red flag laws so part of why i'm here today is to challenge every state pass a red flag law >> see how >> these leaders in these parents through there you been watching vice president kamala harris speaking at marjorie stillman douglas high school in parkland, florida. of course, the site of that horrific 2018 school shooting there. i want to bring in kevin liptak to talk a little bit about the substance of what she's talking about here. obviously, pushing new policies to curb gun violence. some of what some of the like that happened at that school. now, a few years ago, kevin, i'm curious what stood out to you along with the significance of her being there? >> yeah. and you hurt her really describing the experience of touring the site of the shooting and you can only imagine what an effecting and kind of chilling experience that would be this portion of the high school has been largely kept intact from that de on february 14, 2018, when the shooting occurred, desks are in the same place. people's belongings are still on the same place. and there is ample evidence of the tragedy that occurred. there. there's blood smear it on the floor. there's broken glass, there's bullet holes in the wall. and so i think any person who would be walking through there would have to be deeply affected by this and she did spend about three hours inside the school and also meeting with ten family is this 17 victims of that attack? and what you hear her talking about and really pushing are new red flag laws. those are the laws that would identify people who could be a harm to themselves or others. and with a judge's order would restrict their access to firearms florida actually passed a read fly the flag law in the three weeks or so after this shooting. and in the years since it has been applied to thousands and thousands of people and what you heard her stay in that speech is that all states should adopt a similar law. she also announced a new resource center that would provide resources, training in that sort of thing on implementing these kinds of laws. but what you'll also hear from the biden administration, of course, are calls for new restrictions on assault weapons, including the ar-15, which is the type of firearm that was used in the parkland shooting. that of course won't happen unless congress can pass some kind of legislation along those lines that doesn't appear imminent. and you do here, frustration certainly from harris, from president biden that more isn't being done to prevent those types of guns and firearms from being used in these types of tragedies yeah. >> i mean, it's been a central part of their campaign here and broward county schools, which of course includes marjorie stone douglas does say the building is scheduled to be demolished in the summer of 2024. of course, erasing some of the horrors that you just mentioned there as well. kevin. thank you so much for everyone else we'll be right back. >> check your nothing. >> the space shuttle accidents usually not one thing. it's a series of then is that part of the wing coming apart >> space shuttle columbia, the final flight or mere sunday, april 7 at nine on cnn, it's michael's lowest prices of the season shop now for up to 70%, i'll store why it's gore huge deals on springs stems aren't in craft supplies and custom phrase plus they won't offspring floral and 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dean, welcome jon. now, look some of suggested trump may accept money from a foreign source to help pay this bond. we haven't seen any evidence that those acts that those asks have actually happened. but what are your concerns as trump looks for where to come up with the money >> the concerns are that we could have four and moneyed come to play that some one source could have huge influence over a potential president of the united states. but i don't think he can do that and get away with us or not not knowing that that's the risk he's going to have to play if he does go to a single or multiple large deep pocket sources. and that's because the judge last week also modified the order of the monitor, who's looking after his corporations, his business interests to report what's going on. so in essence, the judge will know and trump will have to disclose what his source might be to meet the bond if he meets the ban. indeed, he might. well let the attorney general letitia james just start seizing his property >> it could be a big week on that front and that of course, there's always the fear from the trump camp of this particular case and the significance of this case. now i want to bring up because you were there as richard nixon got backed further and further into a corner. and i'm curious from your perspective, what kind what kind of behavior do you predict? we could see from donald trump as more of these cases come to trial, and we get closer and closer to the election >> well, i'll ever be accused of being a great defender, richard nixon, but i must say nixon and trump are very different personalities. nixon was trained as a lawyer. he was a man. all of my proved himself with a conscience trump has neither of those qualities. he, as we've watched with the bond, he plays it to the last minute and he's unpredictable. he is a terrible witness in court he is terribly emotional about some of these things. so i think the show is going to go on if you will as these trials proceed. and i think one or more will play out before the election. >> yeah. i think as you rightly point out, and we are in the midst of of course him fighting these legal battles, but also in the middle of an election cycle. so politics are also at play here and that may factor into some of the decision-making here. trump for 1 is continued to refer to the january 6 rioters has hostages and patriots the washington post is riding that he's aligning himself with them and intensifying his use of dark graphic. and at times violent language and some are dismissing this is trump just being trump. and i'm curious for you how do you view it? >> well i view this as somebody who has done some pretty deep study and over many, many years of authoritarianism the work of an authoritarian at his core, and what he's trying to do is get the allegiance of his followers first of all, get the sympathy of the families of those there are incarcerated. then dangle out the promise of releasing them if he gets elected, he thinks as well, actually his base will like this activity. it to me, it is very anti-democratic, very threatening to the system. and one of the reasons it's dangerous have donald trump ever gets back in the oval office? >> and one of those potential impediments are these number of legal trials cases that we've seen play out at both the state and federal levels. one of them being in georgia when fani willis brought the georgia case against trump last summer, you called it much bigger than watergate and now given what's happened, willis being damaged a little by revelations about her personal life. do you still see that case as the one could be the most critical 1 for trump o'mara, that was a great scoop cnn got today with fani willis. and they sort of founder in the wild. it is not a setup press conference. she wasn't expecting. it was just big gutter in the moment and we saw are as she is and how she's thinking about all this. and she's a woman who's ready to go to trial she has said that she'd like to set a trial date. there is an appeal of her qualify disqualification. there's been certified by the judge. it has not been accepted by the court of appeals yet that could happen next week. it could happen that they don't accept it so that's still up in the air as to whether and when it might go forward, but i i saw a woman very ready. i a woman who's not concerned. she has great presence in the courtroom. and the reason this trial is potentially so devastating, it's one of the only ones that will be tested the televised. and so we'll all see it and that has a huge impact. >> and to quote her to our crews today, the train is coming. we will see when that train arrives and what that train actually looks like when the time comes. if it does before the election, john dean. thank you so much >> thank you. you're walmart, a federal appeals court could decide any de now, if texas can enforce a controversial immigration law ahead, we're going to talk with 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knew godaddy arrow, but your business online in minutes with the power of ai >> a controversial texas immigration law that would make illegal border crossings a state crime is currently on hold as a legal battle plays out between the federal government and the lone star state. now the law would allow texas officials to arrest and detain people they suspect of entering the country illegally on tuesday, the supreme court cleared the way for the state to begin enforcing the policy, but just hours later, a federal appeals court put it back on hold. so now all eyes are on the fifth us circuit court of appeals as it weighs whether the law can go into effect. joining me now is congresswoman jasmine crockett of texas, congresswoman great to see you. now, look, this ultimately is an issue of federal versus state enforcement, and i'm curious, how do you think this will play out? >> am i. have no idea when you start talking about circuits like the fifth circuit, i'd get really, really nervous they're definitely circuits that i like better >> but it will >> say a lot if the fifth circuit rules in the way that they should, which is basically this is a matter of federal law. it's really just not that complicated is this a matter of telling greg abbott that he needs to stay in his place and if he wants to practice federal enforcement of immigration law, then maybe he should run for president of the united states. but until then he is a governor and the state of texas and this is not state jurisdiction. >> and i want to follow up quickly on that front because obviously we saw a video of migrants running past texas national guard troops pushing toward through razor wiring and then surrendering to border patrol to apply for asylum. we don't know all of the circumstances there, but i'm curious those texas trypsin that fencing was under state control there. do you think that type of situation is helping? or hurting the situation overall at the border >> you know what i think is hurting the situation at the border is the level of confusion we know that when it comes to abortion laws, or whether we're talking about voting laws or even now, immigration laws, the confusion is actually what makes everything worse. and honestly, that is part of the scheme of what they're doing. the fact is in fact, i just read an article from houston chronicle. they talked about the fact that you had texas state troopers. they were saying one thing to migrants and it was completely false and granted, i don't know if they knew that at the time or if they were just confused because as you stated, the the supreme court did one thing and then the next thing you know, the fifth circuit did another thing. and so what's happening is if you know anything about united states immigration law, it says that you can present yourself at any port of entry for asylum that doesn't necessarily mean just the texas border, even though that's all we ever talked talk about. you can present yourself anywhere within the united states and say, hey, i'm here seeking asylum. and so now you have migrants that may be afraid of texas law enforcement telling them the wrong things, doing the wrong things, or the fact that there's going to arrest them yeah >> yeah >> clarity is what i think a lot of folks are looking for before we even get to the wider debate, i want to turn to another issue to the gop led impeachment inquiry into president biden are now republicans continued to allege with no real proof that this point that the president was complicit in his son hunter's business dealings and a really big talked about moment from this week's hearing, you called into question the credibility of one of the witnesses, hunters, former business partner, tony bobulinski. bobulinski here's a clip from that exchange. take a look. >> i want to be clear that when we were behind closed doors, you called a number of people liars, you called the wall street journal liars. you called cassidy hutchinson a liar. you call the fbi a liar. you called rob walker a liar. you call james gil. you're a liar. you call hunter biden a liar. you called jim biden a liar. and just today you add it to your list. you calls my colleague, congressman. mr. goldman, a liar as well. it seems like according to you, the only person that's telling the truth is you and everyone else is lying. >> so based on that, i mean, you said you said it pretty clear, right there, but based on that, do you feel that this impeachment inquiry is dead in the water essentially? >> i don't know that it was ever out of the water within, you know, it's been interesting because when you are trying to move forward with something as serious as an impeachment inquiry or whether you're just trying to move a bill, what you normally would do is you would bring witnesses that our fact witnesses that can help to propel whatever it is that you are trying to move forward. and we know that early on when they brought experts, their own experts said, we don't see that you have enough to go forward. they had three experts. they're saying the exact same thing. and then even if you were able to listen to other testimony that was given by bobulinski, he was talking about reading the transcripts of other witnesses that is not being a fact witness, but i can tell you that left partners is what we would call a fact witness and you notice that the democrats brought him another point that i tried to make is that, hey, lafe worked for rudy giuliani. we have tried to peanut rudy giuliani, who should have pertinent information and the republican majority has shut that down every step of the way, telling you that they don't want the truth out there. all they want is a spectacle and a show. and i think my >> colleague, >> congressman moscowitz, made that very clear where he basically dared. chairman comer or to go ahead and call for the impeachment vote. and chairman comer would not. >> yeah it never even got out of the water quoted to congresswoman jasmine crockett. thank you so much

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