source. the man who led a failed coup against vladimir putin yevgeny prigozhin was on a plane that crashed and burned today. he is briefed to be dead and there is wide speculation about what happened. was it revenge? plus, once known as america's mayor and a tough on crime federal prosecutor, rudy giuliani has been arrested, fingerprinted and, yes, there is a mugshot. but giuliani says he hasn't changed a bit. his lawyer will join me tonight. and hours from now it will be trump's turn. why arrest number four won't be like any of the others. i'm kaitlan collins and this is "the source." two months to the day after his march on moscow, russia has now confirmed that yevgeny prigozhin was on that private plane that fell out of the sky today just northwest of the capital. the social media channel that linked to the wagner group, which prigozhin led, says that he is dead. the pictures are harrowing. flight tracking data shows the plane making erratic climbs above 30,000 feet and descending 8,000 feet per minute when it stopped transmitting its position. it affairs show the plane missing a wing. there are a lot of questions that remain tonight though, including whether or not that plane was shot down. the jet ended up here in a ball of flames on the ground. russian state media says at least eight bodies have been found at the crash site. some were not surprised when they heard the news given putin's history with those who cross them, including president biden, who warned last month prigozhin should be careful about what he was eating. this is what he told kevin lip tag today. >> i don't know for a fact what happened. i am not surprised. >> do you believe putin is behind this, sir? >> there is not much that happens in russia without putin not behind it. >> white house officials are asking questions. as the news broke that putin's former ally turned enemy, the russian leader seen at a ceremony commemorating world war ii. a reminder tonight prigozhin was a brutal warlord. led some of the bloodiest crusades in ukraine and elsewhere. he was also wanted by the fbi for interfering in u.s. elections. nick paton walsh joins us live from zaporizhzhia, ukraine. nick, obviously, it's been two months since that coup. fascinated everyone. there are questions about how active he was, how public he was with his movements. what is the latest that you are learning from sources on the crash? >> reporter: it's important to point out that we don't have devin intive evidence that yevgeny prigozhin did indeed die i in that crash. the information received is beginning to suggest that the most likely outcome. it's mostly from russian stourcs that will be distributing what is favorable to vladimir putin. prigozhin led wagner mercenary against russia's top brass saying how angry they were at the conduct of the war here in ukraine. but it turned into a much larger challenge against putin himself. essentially, a deal done by the bell russian president turned prigozhin around and meant he was somehow going to move his fighters to belarus. he went quiet for a bit. that's got many people wondering quite whether or not everything wea we are seeing can be taken at face value. prigozhin was not really known his whereabouts for one or two weeks after that initial rebellion. he popped up last in the last week or so in africa suggesting perhaps he might be focusing on his wagner group's operations there, often involved in mining, propping up dictatorships there. the images many watching in russia of that plane falling from the sky leave many wondering exactly how this could possibly have occurred and, too questioning, there appear to be many wagner top lieutenants on that plane as well according to out list given out by russian state aviation authorities. you may be asking yourself, well, how did the men so soon after the coup feel so free of threats, so safe in russia already? they all decided to get on the same private jet and fly across russia. another question to be asked here as well, but it does look at this point from most of the signals we are getting that yevgeny prigozhin is no more. >> given that russia is the one conducting this investigation and we still have all those questions that you laid out there, i mean, will we ever get a real answer about what happened here? >> reporter: yeah, it's going to be exceptionally tough. we may hear from the wagner group or wagner supporters that they believe yevgeny prigozhin is dead. but from the man, whose whereabouts, he toyed with an awful lot after the coup, images of someone looking like him getting on and off a helicopter in st. petersburg. his actions, frankly, the wagner group, were occurring in the shadows until recently indeed. and so for western investigators, being at a crash scene as horrific as that that you have seen from the wreckage of the plane that fell out of the sky would be a challenge for them, frankly, to piece together from the remains dna enough to be absolutely sure who had been on that plane. what we do know is that the passenger list said he should be there, russian aviation said he got on that plane. for the most part, there will be a element of mystery potentially because -- thank you, that is where putin's russia functions, where the information is often in the hands of the state. no exception here. and also important to point out prigozhin was a man who had crossed putin in ways putin had never seen in 23 years he had been in power and many were asking how is he being allowed to continue circulating within the russian elite in public? how is he even still alive? maybe the answer has been delivered today. we don't know at all how this came around. as you say, you heard president biden there. many other observers of putin, none of this really came as a surprise. kaitlan. >> nick paton walsh, thank you. >> yevgeny prigozhin lived in the shadows on three continents. his life ended in flames just outside of moscow. let's get straight to the source with one of the few people alive who knows what it is like to live as an enemy of vladimir putin. once the largest foreign investor in russia before the kremlin decided he was a threat. he joins me now. bill, it's not staircase, not a window, not poison in someone's underwear. given putin's history, is there any doubt in your mind tonight that he is behind this? >> absolutely no doubt that he is behind this. putin is a man who never forgives and never forgets. yevgeny prigozhin basically betrayed him. he was disloyal. he organized a rebellion. putin absolutely can't allow that to go on because, if he does, then other people will get the same idea. putin has ruled for 23 years as a strong man, a dictator. and prigozhin made him look weak. and so this is what happens when you make putin look weak. >> are you more surprised that it has been two months since that rebellion prigozhin led happened? >> it's absolutely crazy that putin has allowed him to live for two months. one would expect if you're a ruthless dictator and somebody organized a rebellion and you called him a traitor on television the day of the rebellion, that that guy would be -- the rebel would be apprehended, taken to red square, his head put in a guillotine and have it chopped off the next day. the fact that prigozhin didn't have his head chopped off and, in fact, had tea with putin in the kremlin, he was reading african dictators at the russia africa summit, has been flying all over the world, apparently unimpeded, every one of those days made putin look like a weakling, look not like a strong dictator. the fact that he waited two months, that's the biggest surprise of this whole story. >> yeah, speaking of looking weak, i mean, after that rebellion initially happened you said you believed he would have to do something to reassert his authority or you believed that putin was, the quote at the time, a dead man walking. is this him reasserting his authority if it's two months later, does it still work, do you think? >> yeah, it works perfectly. so from this day on, anybody who is thinking about challenging putin understands that the consequence could be death in a terrible way. by the way, i don't think this is the end of the story. i think that putin has begun the punch and there will be other peoplerge and there will be oth people punched. so this enforces his authority. that's what he was -- that's what he has been attempting to do. yes, two months have gone by. that wasn't great for him. now he achieved the objective. >> essentially, what you are saying, if you are a prigozhin ally, you are not sleeping well tonight? >> i am sure that some of them are already dead. we just haven't heard of it. others are on the run, in hiding, an many people will be punched. either killed or locked up for a very long time. that's the way dictators work. putin is a dictator. i'm sure that's happening as we speak. >> russia is doing an investigation. but if this is up to russia's investigators, do you think we will ever really know what happened with this plane crash today? >> i think we will know what happened because for a variety of reasons. one is that there is lots of open source intelligence about what happened. there is flight plans, radar, all sorts of other stuff like that. and then there is just a very leaky information market out there in moscow. there are people fighting with each other. there is lots of ways of getting information. so i am pretty sure we will find out exactly what happened. and part of the reason that russia says we are doing an investigation, they want to talk out of both sides of their mouths. on one hand, they want to say this was an accident or they will come up with some type of absurd conclusion, and on the other side of their mouth they want to look everybody in the i-and say this is what happens to traitors. they don't want an official version of admitting they killed him because there is legal consequences to that. >> you, yourself, have faced threats from rt kremlin. you wrote in your book that you assumed there was a good chance that he or his regime would have you killed some day. i mean, when you look at the big picture of this, how are you reflecting on this tonight? >> well, i mean, i are seaayingo myself that putin never forgives and never forgets. we have been at it for 13 years. i am no longer the number one enemy of vladimir putin. i think zelenskyy is. i think navalny is. i think prigozhin was. but i am high up on the list. it means no matter how much time has passed, he could be sending people to get me. it's not the -- the world is not a safe place for me either. >> i mean, just to their you say that is really remarkable. i mean, do you live in fear? >> well, you can't spend, you know, decades living in fear, but i have to be very careful because when you have a man who is capable of murdering people on his own in his own country and on foreign soil, you have to be much more vigilant. so i have take all sorts of precautions that most normal people who live normal lives don't have to take. but i have good reason for being in conflict with putin because he killed my lawyer 13 years ago in a financial crime in which he was a beneficiary of, and sergei died at the age of 37. i owe it to him to continue to fight for justice and expose putin if his regime and i am not going to back down. the risk is high. no question. >> and you have continued to do that. thank you. the book, of course, for those interested, freezing order, a true story of money-laundering, murder and surviving vladimir putin's wrath. thank you for joining me. >> thank you. and we have seen what happens when putin feels betrayed as he would put it. some have mysteriously fallen out of windows or disappeared off the face of the earth. others had their underwear laced with poison and fairly survived. we have an expert on his playbook. also, an extraordinary season out of fulton county jail adds the former mayor of new york city rudy giuliani turns himself in to be arrested. his lawyer who was there with him will join me next. how does it feel to be on the other side of the justice system? 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>> sorry. don't interrupt me. i made a state. if if they can do this to me, they can do it to you. >> joining me is brian tevis, rudy giuliani's attorney. i know you just joined the case. does this mean you are on giuliani's legal team going forward? >> at this point, i was only involved in obtaining a bond and negotiating the surrender. i don't know if i will be on the case going forward or not. that remains to be seen. >> how are you -- were you only hired to represent him because you are in georgia? how did this come to me? can you kind of walk me through that? >> sure. to practice law in any state, you have to be licensed there. even though the mayor has counsel from new york, you have to have an attorney from georgia to be able to appear in court, sign documents, negotiate, things like that that. otherwise, you are practicing law without a license. they had to have localinvolved specifically this, but the -- since the phone call and other aspects. i was familiar with it. of course, the criminal defense realm is a small circle of attorneys. we know each other. there is inner communication and i am very familiar with the facts of case. >> remains to be seen if you will be a part of this legal team taking it to trial. today we did see from mr. giuliani today he said, i am being indicted because i am lawyer. that was his quote. he was indicted on 13 charges, including engaging in criminal conspiracy, soliciting a public officer to violate their oath. is his main defense he is ang attorney and, therefore, should not be charged. >> i don't want to get beyond the cope space telescope of the representation i am at right now. it's premature to say what is the defense. this indictment is very complex. racketeering, in and of itself, r.i.c.o. indictments are very broad, very general. they leave themselves open to a lot of attacks to be made on the document itself. i expect there will be many legal challenges to the indictment on its own before you ever get into evidence or legal strategy or how will it be defended. the first point of attack, for us, is to look at the document itself. does it charge what they think it charges? is it survivable on its face? are there errors, problems, do we need more information to defend it? and i think there has been discussion about this scheduling order of, you know, could this case go to trial in march. we would be able to have motions that will go into march before you ever get to reviewing evidence on a case this size. >> so what's the next legal move? he has indicated he tried to move it to a federal court out of a state court. is that still his plan? >> i don't have information on what the strategy is going to be, as far as whether there will be removal or not. that may be one of many different points of attack. i don't know where tler going with that yet. >> are you being compensated by mr. giuliani for your work? >> i don't want to get into any attorney-client privilege or discussions about things that my client and i have discussed. >> the reason i ask is because our reporting here and his own other attorney in a different case new york, adam catz, acknowledged in court he has financial difficulties. >> right. well, i have gotten this question 100 times today as we walked to the court, the jail, everywhere else. my answer is the same. i am not going to disclose that. i don't discuss my clients' finances or arrangements in any of my cases and this is no different. >> i guess part of this was -- i mean, we heard from his attorney talking about how he couldn't afford certain legal fees that he has. i mean, how is he able to post the bond today? >> you would have to talk to his people about the finances. i know that they used a surety bond, second chance bond, and he posted it. usually you post a fraction of the percentage and the bonding company posts the rest of that. so you use a bonding company, you are not posting $150,000 yourself. >> you're an attorney. to look at what another attorney says in court about a difficulty paying your legal bills and giuliani arrives in georgia on a private plane today, i mean, who -- do you know whose plane that was? >> i don't. i met them at my office when mr. esposito came to my office. we started to work on the case. i didn't meet them at the airport. i have no idea how they arrived. >> one other question. trump is going to -- former president trump is going to be headlining a $100,000 per person fundraiser for giuliani to help with the aforementioned legal bills. part of the bond restrictions that were handed down today is that he condition not talk about the case with a co-defendant. trump, obviously, his co-defendant. can you assure the court their not going to be talking about that case? >> well, i haven't looked at his bond order. our bond order says don't discuss things wico-defendants except through counsel. that's not uncommon to say don't talk to defendants, except through counsel -- >> can you assure the court that they are not going to talk about it? >> i would assure the court we made this agreement and we will abide by the bond conditions. >> have you spoken to trump's attorneys? >> i have not. >> brian tevis, thank you for your time. >> thank you. and i am joined by andrew kurtzman, author of giuliani the rise and tragic fall of america's mayor. thank you for being here. i mean, we were talking the other day about the remarkable idea that giuliani had been indicted. did you ever think that you'd see a rudy giuliani mugshot? >> no. no. it's an extraordinary sight. and, you know, this was a catastrophic hit to giuliani's reputation. you know, not to mention the fact that he faces the prospect of possibly spending the rest of his life in prison. no. i never thought it would come to this. what i found interesting watching him speaking to reporters today was the first words out of his mouth were, i am honored to be involved in the fight for justice, right? you are not looking at someone who is scared or, you know, mortified or depressed. you are looking at someone who was, you know, primed for battle. giuliani is a man who knows only one speed, which is, you know, shoot to kill. and he has fought so many battles over his career. and many of them, things that have improved life in new york. the battle against the mafia. the battle against wall street. the battle to turn around new york city. the battle to save new york after 9/11. well, this is, obviously, a different kind of battle. you know, he, you know, he still sees himself as kind of the young prosecutor, always fighting for -- always fighting for justice. but, you know, this is his last battle most likely. and he goes into it not kind of the young giuliani in his prime, but someone who is close to 80 years old. in many ways, he a confused man. he is almost broke. and in some ways this is not kind of, i don't know, an epic battle in the true sense. in many ways, he starts this battle a very sad man. >> yeah. i mean, he is clearly bothered by the unraveling of his legacy. he is certainly trying to defend it. i mean, when he -- you're talking about the kind of sense of bravado that he had. this is what he said when he left his apartment here in new york this morning. >> people like to say i am different. i am the same rudy giuliani that took down the mafia. that made new york the safest city in america. reduced crime more than any mayor in the history of any city anywhere and i am fighting for justice. i have been from the first moment i represented donald trump. >> are you buying the bravado given you are someone who covered him as long as you have? >> yeah, i am. i think just knowing his psyche after reporting on him for, you know, 30 years, it's that his, you know, if you looked inside his brain, i think what you would see was someone who felt always that he was right and everyone else was wrong. someone crew aiding for justice. someone on the right of any issue, even when he was doing was deeply immoral. and i don't see this as kind of putting a phony act. like i think he only has kind of one speed, and that's to fight. and that's -- i think that's what you are seeing. i think that's why it's -- i don't know. i am a little dubious about whether he would flip on trump. it would kind of go against everything i have ever seen giuliani do. it's like everything with him is a moral -- even when what he is doing is extremely immoral. he has done terrible damage to democracy. he has told lies. he has taken america down a very, very, you know, terrible, terrible path, and yet there is no question in my mind that he thinks he is right and everyone else is wrong. >> that's fascinating though what you said there. i mean, trump is refusing to pay for his legal fees, i mean, that's not totally clear how those fees are being paid. his attorney couldn't answer those questions just now. you don't think there is anything that could happen where he would flip on trump or provide incriminating information? >> there is something about the prospect of prison that focuses the mind, right? so i don't think you could possibly say that there is nothing that would make him flip on trump. but, you know, i have not heard, you know, one word of kind of vacillation, you know, in his remarks. i was listening to him on his podcast. it's all the same. it's, like, injustice, injustice, injustice. he is the victim. you trump is the victim. could he suddenly change his tune completely? you know, to me it's unlikely. you never know though. >> something about prison that focuses the mind. andrew kurtzman, great having you on last week. great having you back tonight. >> thank you. >> of course, it's a busy day at the fulton county jail. not just for rudy giuliani. we will show you who else turned themselves in as we look ahead to tomorrow when donald trump is going to go through what we believe to be the exact same process. will there be a mugshot of the former president? that's the question tonight. that neighbor is hot! that's my husband... what? 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you are going to have to get on the planes. you are going to have to respond to these warrants that the -- fani willis, the d.a., is threatening here because there is not law here that allows me to put the state courts on hold to have this process go forward. but there is going to be a hearing monday because this judge is looking at what these two are saying, and at least meadows specifically, looking for this case on monday and looking at whether this case can move from the state court to the federal court. >> yeah. i mean, luckily, there is a lot of flights to atlanta. in the back and forth between fani willis, the district attorney and mark meadows and his attorneys, she was basically saying there should be no exceptions for meadows given, you know, his boss, former president trump, is coming to surrender. what stood out the way she was essentially kind of shooting down the arguments that meadows has been making? >> reporter: the main point that the d.a., fani willis, said in two filings today was sequentially what mark meadows was doing was political activity. and even he had made that argument previously when he was trying to escape responding to house subpoenas in their own investigation around this area, the 2020 election and his actions there. and she essentially was saying, if he wants to claim he was working as a federal official at the time, he is trying that in court, but we believe what he was doing for donald trump was political activity and, thus, shouldn't get this allowance that he can have there, and there were two quotes that she wrote her filings about meadows and clark. the hardship facing the defendant is no different than any other criminal defendant charged with a crime, including co-defendants who already surrendered or agreed to surrender and fani willis wrote about clark, seeks the avoid the inconvenience of being arrested subject to the mandatory state criminal process but provides this court no legal basis to justify those ends making those arguments at a time that shadow what donald trump could potentially be wanting to make in the future as well and what the d.a. would have to defend against. >> we will see what he does tomorrow and going forward. thank you. and back to our big breaking story this hour. russia says wagner chief yevgeny prigozhin, who led that mutiny just two months ago, was on that plane that crashed and burned today. the one-time putin ally turned adversary reportedly dead. the former cia director will join me with his thoughts next. s the only way we can get our baby to sleep, so when our windshield crackcked, we needed it fixed right. we went to safelite.com. there's no one else we'd trusts. their experts replaced our windshield, and recalibrated our car's advanced safety system. they focus on our safety... so we can focus on this little guy. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one pill, once a day. many taking rinvoq saw clear or almost-clear skin while some saw up to 100% clear skin. and, they felt dramatic and fast itch relief some as early as 2 days. that's rinvoq relief. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal, cancers including lymphoma and skin cancer, death, heart attack, stroke, and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred. people 50 and older with at least one heart disease risk factor have higher risks. don't take if allergic to rinvoq, as serious reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. disrupt the itch and rash of eczema. talk to your doctor about rinvoq. learn how abbvie can help you save. following today's fiery plane crash in russia wihere officials say that mercenary leader yevgeny prigozhin was onboard that plane that crashed that you see. wagner social media channel says the mercenary leader is dead. waiting on more confirmation tonight. remember, two months ago he led an armed rebellion trying to overthrow putin's moscow. joining me now, leon panetta, the former cia director under president obama. mr. secretary, thank you for joining me. i should note, the white house has not been able to confirm prigozhin's death. they say they are not surprised if it is true. can you walk us through, what does that look like tonight? 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