these locations, also some thunder and lightning starting to occur in some of these thunderstorms. one thing to note is we do have a flash flood warning in effect for two counties in southern california, again, just because of the amount of rain that has already fallen, and in anticipation of the amount that is expected to fall over the next 48 hours. we also have flood watches, all of the green you see for numerous states in anticipation of all of that rain that is expected to fall in the coming hours. the storm is expected to weaken further as it really pushes into colder waters in the next 24 to 48 hours. when it finally pushes into california, it will be a tropical storm, so, yes, the winds, the overall winds of the storm are going to weaken significantly, but the overall forecast in terms of rainfall really has not changed. we will really start to see a lot of the heavy rain really begin to filter into the area by tonight, especially overnight hours. this will continue off and on throughout the day on sunday, and then finally we begin to see the bulk of that moisture retreat once we get to the latter half of the day monday. so you're talking a 48-hour period for a lot of these areas to be dealing with moderate, if not even very heavy rainfall. so you have a potential for excessive rainfall, the flood threat, a moderate risk for las vegas, san diego. and the pink area does include death valley, stretching into areas like palm desert and palm springs, where you're going to have the highest concern for that flash flooding. widespread, you're looking at 2 to 4 inches. that may not sound like much, especially for folks east of the rockies that are used to that. these areas are not. you're talking a year's worth of rain in one day. some of these locations could get 6, 8, even 10 inches of rain, and now you're talking multiple years worth of rain in a 24 to 48-hour time period. that's why there's such a large concern for flooding in these areas, and other things that come with it, not just the flooding itself, but mudslides. you have some of these areas that have been dealing with wildfires, you have the burn scars, those turn into debris flows. and, also, one other thing, we've got a lot of other potential systems we'll keep a close eye on. we'll continue with more updates throughout the rest of the day. >> suddenly very active. it has been a very active summer, but active in a new kind of way. you've got your hands full. thank you so much. now to new details on the negotiations for the surrender of former president donald trump in georgia, with less than a week to turn himself into the fulton county jail in atlanta. sources tell cnn that trump is now expected to surrender on thursday or friday. he and 18 co-defendants are charged with plotting to subvert the 2020 election results in georgia. local officials have said that they will treat the former president like any other defendant, and sources tell cnn that trump's team has been in contact with the district attorney's office about the conditions and terms for his surrender. cnn's paula reid has more on the complicated logistics involved. >> reporter: on monday trump's team is going to head down to fulton county, georgia, to negotiate the details of this expected surrender. the d.a., fani willis, has given all of the defendants until next friday at noon to surrender. right now it is our understanding that trump is likely to do his surrender toward the back half of the week. now, here is what's going to happen when he goes to surrender. he is going to surrender to the fulton county sheriff's office and this process typically involves a mug shot and fingerprints. the mug shot is important because, remember, at the federal level they did not take a mug shot of the former president, because they said, look, we use those, they don't release them, but use them for law enforcement if someone goes on the lam. trump is recognizable and they don't really need a mug shot. it's unclear if fulton county is going to make that kind of exception. another big difference between the state and federal appearances, he's just going to be processed next week. then a judge will schedule a court hearing. at the federal level all of this happened on the same day. so the judge will have to schedule a hearing and the district attorney has asked for the initial appearances of all of these defendants to happen the week of september 5th. >> paula reid, thank you so much. with me to talk more about tr trump's georgia case is a former federal prosecutor and associate professor at the georgia state university college of law. professor, great to see you. >> you, too. >> this is going to be quite the week coming up, whether it be logistics or even the challenges of the law and, of course, the defendants at hand. so fulton county's d.a. says she plans to try all 19 defendants, including trump, together. one of my last guests said that potentially some of the defendants may be -- you know, the terminology, severed or put into separate groups because it's difficult to envision all of their attorneys, all defendants, in a courtroom at the same time. do you think that's potentially what's going to happen, or is it really more than issue of might some of these defendants be willing to plead? >> i think it's an issue of both, really. when you start with 19 defendants, you're often going to have a certain number of defendants who are going to plead guilty, some may plead guilty and move to cooperate with the prosecution, and some may have arguments that their cases should be severed, that is made smaller and brought to a different court. not to mention, we have some of the defendants, mark meadows in particular, who is trying to move his case to federal court. so it's extremely unlikely that we'll have 19 defendants on, you know, whatever the first day of trial is. >> do you think the prospects are favorable or mark meadows or anyone else to try to move this to a federal court? >> i don't really think so. so mark meadows is trying to move his case to federal court under a statute which has been around since the early 19th century, which is basically there to prevent the states from interfering with the operations of the federal government. so as a federal official, he can say, i was taking actions in the course of my work, federal authorized executive branch business, and i shouldn't be prosecuted in a state court for that. but because overturning the results of a fair election is not part of the executive branch's -- >> that was going to be my follow-up question. >> exactly. >> by way of the phone call. >> right. so arguably -- we'll see what happens, the district court is going to make a decision, but my -- he has a good chance of not succeeding. >> so the charges that trump and these other 19 are facing, they're looking at 13 charges, and much of it, you know, predicated on the whole racketeering, and racketeering is usually associated with organized crime and, you know, for example, in connection with mobs, gangs. it involves several people working together to commit crimes that are connected to a common goal. and this law also sometimes comes with a mandatory jail sentence of 5 to 20 years. do you believe that what is being alleged is in the fair scope of the application of this law in georgia? >> yes, i do. but before that, can i just say one thing about the mandatory 5 to 20 years? that's an alternative to a fine. so it's not necessarily the case that any defendant convicted of georgia rico is facing prison. if they go to prison, they face at least five years, but they could not go to prison at all and simply have a fine. getting back to your question about whether i think it's a fair use of rico, yes, i do, absolutely. i think that it fits extremely well the facts of this case, and while you're entirely right that rico statutes began as a way to combat the mob, the italian mafia specifically, it's been decades that it's been used in a much more wide range of applications, things like automobile chop shops, illegal stock broker businesses, drug rings, all kinds of things. and, indeed, even in atlanta, the school cheating scandal. >> that's right. that was one of her signature cases. and then as it pertains to the scope of your eligibility to even run for president, some prominent conservative legal schoolers are raising a constitutional argument that trump should be barred from any future presidency, running for it, because of his actions to overturn the previous presidential election result. i mean, there's a new piece in "the atlantic" magazine from liberal law professor lawrence tribe and j. michael ludwig and a prominent conservative, who has become a strong critic of trump's actions after the elections, making that case. specifically citing the president's words at the ellipse on january 6th, that that is the precipice for the disqualifying action for ever being president again. >> right. >> is this going to be a strong argument? and if so, at what point is this argument made and in what forum? >> right. i think the problem with the argument, appealing though it might be to some people, is that he has not been found guilty of anything. these are just allegations. so to put my law professor hat on, he is innocent until proven guilty. now, i'm not sure what the standard of proof is that they need to prove under the 14th amendment, which would make him ineligible, but to the extent they want to use the fact that he's criminally charged, it would seem to me they would have to wait until there was a decision by a jury, one way or another, in order to trigger that. >> as it pertains to this week, do you believe that you're going to see the former president treated as any other defendant at the fulton county jail? >> i think that the sheriff is doing his best to make that happen, but we have have be realistic, there are security concerns, he has a secret service detail. very much doubt he's going to be patted down or given a medical screening or any of the types of things that are done with ordinary defendants. >> professor karen morrison, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> great to meet you. >> you, too. one of donald trump's co-defendants, rudy giuliani, reportedly made a humbling trip to mar-a-lago recently to plead with the former president for help in paying a mountain of legal bills that he's facing. joining us right now is ken freedman, a former aide to rudy giuliani and served as a consulting producer on the cnn series on giuliani. ken, good to see you. first up, what does it tell you about giuliani's situation that he would make this trip? >> well, that's utter desperation, but if he thought that donald trump was going to reimburse him, he was mistaken. anybody who knows donald trump knows he doesn't pay his bills. but rudy said in 2019 on november 14th that he had very, very good insurance on donald trump just in case he throws him under the bus. well, i think that case has arrived in georgia. >> and so with this trip to mar-a-lago, reportedly giuliani and his team visiting would imply to the former president that it would be wise that they would assist with legal bills. what did you believe that inference to mean? >> well, if you're suggesting trump should pay more hush money, maybe he should. understand that he's already paid him a couple of hundred thousand dollars, he, trump, which is the way he keeps you on a string and keeps you coming back to mar-a-lago for more help. well, it's every man for himself now in georgia, and no one goes to jail for someone else. so rudy giuliani is not going to go to jail for donald trump. >> is this irony? is this, you know, a sad full circle moment? what do you make of the fact that the man who once aggressively used rico charges for years to help prosecute and go after mobsters would now be facing charges under the auspices and the statute of the same level, but on a state level now? >> it's incomprehensible, the irony, certainly. and you've got to believe fani willis studied rudy giuliani's successful application of the rico statute against the mafia and against white collar criminals. so he has no one to blame but himself for all these self-inflicted criminal charges. >> ken, thank you so much. it will be an extraordinary -- i'm sorry, we're going to play a clip real quick of the cnn original series. let's watch. >> appreciate it. >> i can remember rudy reading us passages from the book about the commission and said, you know, this would be a great case that he would take on personally. >> one of the attributes that he had, which i think was very important, was that he tried to see how things could be done rather than finding reasons for not doing them. the really good lawyers are those that spot the issues and then figure out legally how you can accomplish what you want to do. >> first we can expose them. that is a very, very important ingredient in taking some of their power away, not all of their power. as i said, they operate through secrecy. it's also very important for the public to see what we do. >> there was a real sense that rudy was the dominant personality in that office and he wanted people to agree with him. there was a joke around the office that the people around him were members of the rudy tribe because they said yes, rudy, yes, rudy. >> ken, you know the former mayor well. is there a way to succinctly say what happened? >> well, it's a succinct question, but it's a very complicated answer. i've spent the better part of the last four years trying to figure that out, and there are a lot of theories, educated and otherwise, that he was desperate to remain relevant, desperate to make a lot of money, but his integrity has suffered greatly. i met him when he did have integrity, when he was running for mayor, and became the best first-term mayor maybe in the history of new york city. he was a transformative mayor. it's hard for me to reconcile, obviously. >> and then able to cash in, right, on his expertise as a public servant, did really well with consultant fees and contracts, et cetera, only to now hear reportedly that he's also selling off assets in order to help pay for these legal bills. >> well, he's used the expression hogs get slaughtered, and i think that applies to him. >> ken freedman, thank you so much. and, of course, we will be watching, because that was a heck of a tease. we're going to be watching the original series "giuliani, what happened to america's mayor" that airs tonight with back-to-back episodes beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. thank you so much. still ahead, the search and rescue effort in hawaii continues today. more than 1,000 people are believed to be missing still after the wildfires scorched parts of maui. we'll go live next. plus ultra-p-premium viking appliances and up to $7,500 cash. enter today for your chance to win. visit pods dot com. purple mattresses exclusive 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( ♪ ♪ ) welcome back. we continue to track a major hurricane that is barreling toward the southwestern u.s. the category 3 storm is churning in the pacific, with wind speeds of 115 miles per hour. the system is expected to bring potentially catastrophic and life-threatening flooding as it treks north. southern california is facing an exceptionally rare threat, with a first-ever tropical storm warning issued. the california national guard is now on standby with resources deployed throughout the region. that's bring in cnn's natasha chen live in los angeles. people aren't used to this. how seriously are most taking it? >> reporter: well, officials are quite aware that people in southern california are not used to seeing this kind of warning. we're used to wildfires, earthquakes, mudslides and landslides, and some of those emergencies, preparing for those, translates to this situation, but officials really got in front of the cameras yesterday, a lot of different agencies together, to tell people to please be prepared, because in this situation, at least, you can track where the storm is going, unlike some of the other west coast disasters that usually come this way. here are a couple of officials from the city of los angeles' press conference yesterday. >> we know that this is coming. this is one particular situation in the city and the state and the region where we know it's coming versus a wildfire or an earthquake. >> we are not used to hurricane preparation, but it's another example of climate change, so we have to be prepared for climate events that we are not used to. >> reporter: so what does prepared mean for this area? well, the coast guard is going to be monitoring the ports to see if they need to stop boats from coming in, we've got national parks and preserves in the area closing those facilities, trying to discourage people from coming out there, people telling folks to stay home if they don't have to be out, especially sunday and monday. the school districts are all monitoring the situation to see whether they need to adjust plans at all. we've got three major league baseball teams that have moved sunday games to today, so that means they're all doing double-headers, and a lot of events that are canceled or postponed until future dates. it is a lot for this area to consider since we have not seen a tropical storm here in 84 years, about, so people need to be aware and get those sandbags, take everything inside, fred. >> take all those precautions. natasha chen, thank you so much. let's talk more about all of this with brian ferguson, deputy director of the office of emergency services. great to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> so hurricane hilary, this could dump a year's worth of rain across parts of the southwest in a very short amount of time. what is being done specifically on the state level to prepare for a storm of this magnitude? 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>> yeah, absolutely. we have some of the most progressive laws in the country in terms of alert and warning and we're absolutely going to lean forward on those notifications, not just in english, but in spanish and other languages and doing that on the fron end. so a lot of the things we're doing today is talking to folks like you and getting the word out so people understand what this means to them and their families. we also know that vulnerable californians, whether it's because english is a second language, or they're homeless, disabled, older, they're disproportionately impacted by disasters, so taking proactive steps to try to protect those folks today before the storm gets here is the kind of stuff we're working on 24/7. >> and then sometimes you have folks who perhaps don't believe that it's a real threat or are in denial or they feel like, look, this doesn't usually happen, so we're going to be okay. so is there any coordination with, perhaps, federal agencies that your office is having to embark upon to make sure that people get the notice, and take this very seriously? 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