hello and welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and all around the world, i am rosemary church. we begin this hour here in the u.s. state of georgia where a grand jury has indicted donald trump for a historic fourth time for allegedly trying to overturn the states election results in 2020. the grand jury approved every indictment presented by fulton county district attorney, fani willis, on monday. the former u.s. president has been charged with 13 counts in the indictment, including a racketeering charge, 18 others have also been charged under the states racketeering laws for allegedly joining, quote, a conspiracy to unlawfully change the outcome in favor of donald trump. now, those names include several high-profile individuals from trump's time in office including former white house chief of staff mark meadows, former trump attorneys drew giuliani and john eastman, and top justice department official jeffrey clark, among others. here is what fulton county's district attorney, vani, willis had to say as she unsealed that 41 count indictment. >> a fulton county grand jury returned a true bill of indictment. charging 19 individuals with violations of georgia law, arising from a criminal conspiracy to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in the state. the indictment includes 41 felony counts and is 97 pages long. please remember that everyone charged in this bill of indictment is presumed innocent. specifically, the indictment brings felony charges against donald john trump, rudolph william luis giuliani, john charles eastman, mark randele meadows, john cheeseborough, jeffrey clark, jenna lyn ellis, ray stallings smith the third, robert david shelley, michael a roman, david james schaffer, sean micah treasure steel, stephen cliff guardedly, harrison william prescott floyd, treveyon c kuti, sydney kathrin powell, kathleen austin latham, scott graham hole, and misty hampton, also known as emily's steven mays. every individual charged in the indictment is charged with one count of violating georgia's racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations act through participation in a criminal enterprise in folding county georgia and elsewhere to accomplish the illegal goal of allowing donald j trump to seize the presidential term of office beginning on january 20th, 21. >> and former president on trump has reacted to the in diet against, and calling it politically inspired. let's discuss this further now with areva martin, an attorney and legal affairs commentator. areva, it's good to have you with us. >> i rosemary. >> so, in a historic, move former u.s. president donald trump has been indicted for a fourth time. trump, rudy giuliani, mark meadows, and 16 others are criminally charged on 41 counts in connection with efforts to overturn trump's defeat in the georgia state election. now, trump is charged with a counts, including violating the states racketeering act. what stands out to you and what is trump's legal jeopardy here? >> well, rosemary, this is a historic day and not in a positive way. we have never seen the country seen -- to be both white and that is in addition to a civil lawsuits that have been filed against him as well. i think the most shocking is the expansive nature, we knew it was coming, we did know how many individuals would be indicted, we didn't know the expansive nature of the charges in the indictment, and we see now, not only donald trump, but to some of his most trusted attorneys, his campaign staff, individuals from the u.s. department of individuals that were in his presidential cabinet and other low-level individuals who we do not know, have not been permanently displayed in the media. but this 19 individuals, this is unprecedented in u.s. history and this is going to send shockwaves through our entire country. >> areva, count 28, in this indictment, involves that recorded telephone call that trump made to georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger where trump pressured him to find 11,780 votes. how strong is that evidence, particular like given that this was recorded and what about the strength of the other evidence? >> the evidence in this case is incredibly strong. you have 19 individuals, some of these individuals have a tremendous amount of to lose. look at rudy giuliani, he is 79 years old. by the time the suitcase makes its way through the court system in trial, he could easily be in his early 80s. when you have this many individuals who have been indicted in a racketeering case it is probable, most likely that some of these individuals are going to plead guilty and are going to become witnesses for the prosecution. so that phone call, in and of itself is strong evidence, but, in addition to that evidence, i suspect that there is going to be some, if not a majority of these 19 individuals who will also become witnesses for the state and witnesses against donald trump. >> the date for this trial will be set by the judge, but district bitter any fani willis says that she wants to try all 19 defendants together and do that within the next six months. how feasible is that? >> it's not clear that all 19 fendants will be tried important to note what fani willis did in that press conference last night was to make it clea she is ready, she is prepared, her office is prepared, her prosecutors have their case in order and, of course, as the judges altman to scission about the timing of the trial. but i think she was sending a very clear message to don't trump and the other 18 individuals that her case is strong and she is prepared to litigate it. so whether they all get tried together or, as i said, whether some of them plead guilty and this case ends up involving a handful of people, not clear at this point, but it is very clear that fani willis is ready to go. this is her 11th racketeering case that she has filed against defendants using this racketeering stout shoot, georges racketeering statute, and she's only been in office since 2021. she has filed 11 of these cases since 2021. so, i think that this is a very strong indictment and all of these defendants have a tremendous amount to be concerned about. >> this is a serious, the minimum prison time would be around five years and, because these are state charges, not federal, trump would not be able to pardon himself if he is ultimately elected, reelected president in 2024. how possible is it, given the evidence and of course the charges involved, that trump could get out of this? even without pardoning himself? >> mathematically, rosemary, it is not probable. when you think about having four indictments and the number of charges that have been filed against donald trump. even if he is successful and exonerated, he is acquitted in one of these cases. it is very unlikely, improbable, that he will be acquitted in all four of these cases. as you just stated accurately, this is a state based indictment, even if he is elected president and he tasks the limit of our constitution and tries to pardon himself, he does not have any control, and he is already over a state prosecutor like fani willis. so this trial, even though she indicated she wants to move forward within six months, even if it is delayed because of the number of descendants, because of the number of issues included in the indictment, she has nothing but time. so donald trump could literally be still facing criminal charges involved in criminal trials passed this year and even past next year. >> areva martin, we always appreciate your legal analysis. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> a tragedy beyond tragedies, that is how the hawaii governor is describing the wildfires out the station in maui. we will have the latest on the search and recovery efforts. focusinblue-sky thinking. i'll be taking meetings.s... with f family and friends. and checking voicemail... as my activities permit.t. i'll connect with you... after reconnecting with me. ♪ get 1.9% apr for 36 months plus $1,500 purchase allowance on a 2024 xt5 and xt6 when you finance through cadillac financial. ♪ my cpa told me i wouldn't qualify for the erc tax refund, so i called innovation refunds. their team of independent tax attorneys will work with your cpa to determine if your company is eligible. 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was there more that the utility could've been doing over the past few years to prepare for circumstances like this? and, perhaps most crucially, should the utility have shut down the power grid? preemptively? knowing that these high winds were coming. a class action lawsuit has already been filed against the power company and it reads in part, by failing to shut off power during these dangerous fire conditions defendants caused lots of life. the defendant here is the hawaiian electric company and subsidiaries spokesperson told cnn, specific to a formal power shut off program, we, like most utilities, do not have one. a spokesperson said that any shut off would have to be coordinated with firefighters on the ground because on maui, quote, electricity powers the pumps that provide the water needed for firefighting. the spokesperson would not comment any further on the litigations saying that right now they're focusing on trying to help the recovery effort. now, there are also a lot of video servicing now on social media putting more scrutiny on the power company. videos showing polls bending in the wind and also downed cables. take a listen to shane through as he films outside his house. >> heads up, the line is live on the ground right there. thank you. the pole line is alive. it started from up the road there, all of that is still burning. the fire trucks still haven't coming out. >> the utility has been making efforts in recent years to mitigate for fires. last year they asked for nearly $190 million for, quote, a climate adoption program. but, in the previous four years, they say that they have not actually cleared any hazardous trees that lie outside their right of way around their equipment. trees from a little further off, they fall and cause problems. utility companies have been found responsible in the past four fires, over here in california pg and he was actually found guilty of 84 counts of involuntary manned slaughter that -- for the fire that destroyed the town of paradise. in this case, there is still no cause, no official cause for the fire that pretty much destroyed all of lahaina. clearly there were a few factors at play here. high winds, dry vegetation caused by drought. so the big remaining question is what actually provided the spark, or the sparks? nick watt, cnn, los angeles. i want to bring in luke myers, disaster management coordinator for the office of the homeland government. thank you so much for joining us at this difficult time. >> yes ma'am, good evening for the opportunity to be. here >> i want to start with those questions being asked about the states readiness and response. in the midst of this devastating and deadly wildfire, many criticizing the lack of warnings. how do you respond to that? >> right now governor greene has a number of priorities that are focusing on life safety, our media concern at this point in time is trying to take care of those disaster survivors and get any amount of shelters and transitional housing. we are making some progress, we had about 300 individuals who moved out of shelters in the past two days. >> i want to talk about that in a moment, but i think we do need to address this because a lot of people, a lot of survivors have said that they knew nothing about this fire. they did not hear any alarms, any warnings of any sort. it was only through word of mouth, threw those around them that they heard about this. and then we are hearing that some fire hydrants, there is not enough water pressure to respond. i mean, there is a lot of criticism about the way the state was just not prepared and ready for this. i do want to get your answer on that, and then we can move on to the housing of course. >> as an emergency management professional, when we have any type of incident there are operations that are in place, including alert and warning. our county responsibilities -- the investigation into this incident will go on, and there will be lessons to be learned. that is all i can say at this point in time regarding the specific incident. >> all right, we also learned from the governor, josh greene, that more than 2200 structures have been destroyed and nearly 90% of those are residential. people's homes, the devastation is extensive and the rebuilding task obviously massive. but the more immediate task at hand is providing relief housing to those most in need who lost their homes in these wildfires. how are you able to do that? what are you doing exactly? >> so, we anticipated about two or 3000 residents will need some type of immediate short term and long term housing. so, under the governor's direct we and then working with federal, state, and local partners, and our private partners to identify transitional sheltering and in particular some of our hotels that have the areas that we can put the disaster survivors and their families in. so we have worked hard over the last several days with our larger hotel hospitality partners and identifying rooms to get individuals out of the shelters, into the hotel so they can be taken care of with services that they may need. >> you are confident that all of those people will be given somewhere to live for sometime. what length of time are we looking at because it's going to take a very long time to rebuild, isn't it? >> yes and an incident of this magnitude will be looking at displacement and a rebuilding process that might take years. as we look at transitional housing, we might be looking at families in hotels for six months, but as we find inventory within now we and other areas, we are going to look to try to house them in other areas such as homes that might be available. we are actively working with the partners in maui and our private sector partners to identify potential properties. we have another program that we have identified, a little over 350 either -- units, or somebody's home or even a room in a home. and so we are going to try to match the disaster survivors with those rooms and properties. again, really trying to get them out of the shelter environment and into a much safer place. >> a lot of these homes were not injured, so who pays for this? >> well, in this situation there has been an outpouring of a lot of generosity from all over the world, which we are very thankful for. there will be assistance for the individuals that have been impacted, whether they are disastrous survivors or the families of disaster victims. we'll be working with fema, state emergency management partners, red cross, and others to identify the unmet needs that might be there for each family to try to provide as much as we can. >> luke myers, thank you so much for coming on the show. we appreciate it. >> yes, thank you. >> coming up next, more on our top story. the historic 41 count indictment unsealed in georgia, a closer look at what trump is facing in his fourth criminal case. 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as you know, in this jurisdiction, trials are set by the judges and so it will be the judge that sets the date of the trial. this office will be submitting a proposed scheduling order within this week, however that will totally be at the discretion of the judge. i want to try him and respectful for our sovereign states. we do want to move this case along, and so we will be asking for a proposed order that occurs, a trial date within the next six months. >> i want to bring in michael moran, a lecturer in political risk at the core val school of international studies at the university of denver. we appreciate you joining us. >> thank you, it's nice to be here, rosemary. >> earlier this hour we focused on donald trump's legal jeopardy with this historic fourth indictment, but let's turn now to the political ramifications of all of this. we know, of course, that if trump is reelected in 2024 he will not be able to pardon himself or his allies on these estate charges. he can on federal charges. how do you expect it legal and political teams to deal with this, perhaps most challenging indictment of all four of them? >> yeah, i would agree with that statement. i believe this is the most challenging from the political standpoint of all of the indictments that have been brought against him. largely because the evidence is recorded. we hear donald trump actually making, putting the pressure, twisting the arm of brad raffensperger, who is the chief elections official in georgia looking for nearly 12,000 extra votes. if you can find them, that kind of thing. and the nature of the indictment will open some opportunities for the trump legal team, i think. because it is a racketeering indictment and, in the united states, often these were devised to go after mafia. the american organized crime syndicates. ironically, earlier in my career, way back when, i actually covered a very large racketeering case against the new casey family which was brought, in part, by rudy giuliani, who is in the u.s. attorney. and whose earlier career involved prosecuting them althea, so he knows rico very well. it is a very complicated thing, you have to create a very sophisticated case that involves conspiracy, knowing malfeasance, and then the actual crimes themselves. the trump legal strategy, from what we can tell, will be to deny that he ever thought he lost the election. he always believed that he actually did when and that it was stolen from him. so there is a very high bar on this. having said that, going back to the political aspect, i think it is a tough sell for the american public that donald trump was not trying to influence the outcome of the election, given the recorded tape that everyone is hurt at this point. >> while his legal team can say that he always thought he had, one there is evidence that shows that he knew he hadn't won. so they would use that, shortly? >> absolutely. we live in a post-truth environment, unfortunately. i hate to say that because it goes against everything i really cared about when i became a journalist in the 19 80s. but objectivity has been degraded, newsgathering has been commodified to the extent that opinion has jumped over it, and opinion now is something that people can get on top, where they want, it when they want it. and it just roughs the whole concept of objectivity because union for here the other side. unfortunately, in a political sphere, an indictment like this will become a political football. the people who don't want to hear that tape ever again or believe, for some reason, it was doctored or whatever, or it was perfect as donald trump likes to characterize it, will believe that. the numbers in the united states suggests that that continues to be 40 to 45% of the republican party, but that does not, in any way, represent a majority of the united states. in fact, his loss in the 2020 election reflects the fact that, while he has a lock on the base, the conservative and right-wing base of the republican party, he does not win the independent vote and he does not win democrats, obviously. so that is his great challenge, i think this, of all of the -- is definitely the one that creates the greatest problems for him because it puts once again, out in front of people, this really stunning arm twisting, political -- it's not my place to say, it's corruption, but it smells of corruption when you listen to that tape. >> michael moran, thank you for joining us, we appreciated. >> thank you. >> still to come, an update from the battlefield in ukraine as officials there are now reporting new missile attacks by russia. back without it more in just a moment. ♪ ♪ gain scent beads keep even the stinkiest stuff smelling fresh. ♪ if there's pain when youry to poo ♪ ♪ and going sometes feels like you ♪ ♪ pushed through a pineapple or two ♪ ♪ colace is the brand you need ♪ ♪ to soften stools, we're all agreed ♪ ♪ #2 should be easy to do ♪ trust colace to soften stools with no stimulants for comfortable relief. this is how tosin lost 33 pounds on noom weight. i'm tosin. noom gave her a psychological approach to weight loss. noom has taught me how you think about food has such a... huge impact on your relationship with it. visit noom.com and start your trial today. listen up, you dogs with allergic itch! today's talking lesson is just one word: apoquel. ap--o--quel. ♪ you can't teach your itchy dog to talk... ...so, talk to your vet about apoquel. apoquel is for the control of allergic itch in dogs. do not use apoquel in dogs with serious infections. apoquel may increase the chances of developing serious infections... ...and may cause existing parasitic skin infections or pre-existing cancers to worsen. new neoplasias have been observed. i'm glad we speak the same language. ask your vet for apoquel. wow, you get to watch all your favorite stuff. it's to die for. and it's all right here. streaming was never this easy, you know. this is the way. you really went all out didn't you? um, it's called commitment. could you turn down the volume? here, you can try. get way more into what your into when you stream on the xfinity 10g network. more on our breaking news this hour, a historic fourth indictment for donald trump in the state of georgia over allegations that he and 18 others conspired to overturn the states 2020 election results. the former president now faces 91 criminal charges in four criminal cases across the u.s.. trump himself is speaking out, he posted online saying, in part, quote, this politically inspired indictment, which could have been brought close to three years ago, was a tailored for placement right smack in the middle of my political campaign. we are following new developments in ukraine where officials say that russia has launched missile strikes on several areas overnight, including the lviv region in the west. meantime, ukraine's deputy defense minister says ukrainian forces are preventing russia's advance in the east, where the fighting is on going. but does it caution russian forces are regrouping. as the fighting has also been reported near bakhmut where russian forces are trying to regain lost ground. this, as ukraine says its forces have liberated more land around the city. elsewhere the donetsk region, volodymyr zelenskyy visited troops near the eastern front lines on monday. the visit coming as he thanked the u.s. for a new 200 million dollar security assistant package which includes air defense munitions, artillery rounds, and mine clearing equipment. clare sebastian joins us now live from london, good morning to you, claire. so, russia is hosting an army exhibition and what it describes as an international security conference this week, even as missile tax on ukraine continue. can we glean anything from the events in moscow about their strategy? >> yeah, rosemary, look. i think this is a showcase from russia in more ways than one. they are trying to show that they are still a military power to be reckoned with. russia was of course, before the, wore the world's second biggest arms exporter said they would like to do a few deals there as well. this is showing that to the russian people and to the west, and also to show that russia is not isolated, it is taking its place now as it sees it, it's a set of new alliances with china, india, you can see the defense minister is inspecting displays of the army expo from iran, china, and india. the chinese defense minister is also expected in moscow this week to speak at that moscow international security conference, so i think that is part of the messaging, here but there is this giant elephant in the room, which is that all the while that it is hosting the so-called security conference, russia is still bombing ukraine. the ukrainian air force says that 28 cruise missiles were launched at the country overnight, of which 12 managed to evade ukrainian air defenses. we are hearing about damage and injuries from up in the west and the town of length, which is a 700 miles from the polish border, -- who's hit all the way down into dnipro, that region in the south. we are getting images of a sports facility that was damaged, there another enterprise although there are no deaths reported in that region as of yet. the message there is that nowhere in ukraine a, save but i think the hard reality is, that despite that, there are still countries that are willing to engage with russia that the utility in doing so. rosemary? >> our thanks to clarissa bastian joining us live from london. and, coming up here on cnn newsroom, we are looking back at a pivotal day in afghanistan's history when taliban fighters entered garble and took over the country. in just two, years the country has changed dramatically and we will show you how. ♪ chevy silverado has what it takes to do it all. with up p to 13 camera views. and the z71 ofoff-road package. ♪ you ok? yeah. any truck can help you make a living. this one helps you build a life. chevy silverado. let innovation refunds help with your erc tax refund so you can improve your business hover you see fit. rosiused part of her refund to build an outdoor patio. clink! drmarshall used part of his refund to give his practice a facelift. emily used part of her refund to buy... i run a wax museum. let innovation refunds help you get started on your erc tax refund. stop waiting. go to innovationrefunds.com you really got the brows. she runs and plays like a puppy again. his #2s are perfect! he's a brand new dog, all in less than a year. when people switch their dog's food from kibble to the farmer's dog, they often say that it feels like magic. but there's no magic involved. (dog bark) it's simply fresh meat and vegetables, with all the nutrients dogs need— instead of dried pellets. just food made for the health of dogs. delivered in packs portioned for your dog. it's amazing what real food can do. tuesday marks two years since taliban fighters seized control of afghanistan's capital. that day ushered in the southern end of the 20-year war with the united states and, through the country's future into doubt. since then, afghans have suffered from aberrancy food shortages, malnutrition, and prolonged drought. despite promises to be lenient, taliban leaders steadily cracking down on human rights and no one is paying a higher price than women and girls. i want to turn to anna coren now who joins us live from hong kong. so, and, it two years since the taliban swept to power taking over the capital, what is life like under taliban rule? >> rosemary, it's hard to believe that it has been two years since the taliban took control of afghanistan. to celebrate today, the taliban has announced a public holiday, for the girls and women of this country there is no celebration. each day they are facing extreme repression and have now become prisoners in their own homes. the u.n. says that the taliban is implementing of total discrimination, exclusion, and subjugation of women's and girls while rights activists are calling the taliban's hard right stands as wardens twyman. only spoke to a university student inside afghanistan who said there is no future for the women in her country. take a look. >> in the corner of her room, on a piece of string, angling by paper clips, are the treasured memories of a 20 year old zahra. >> they are my favorite people that i have them in my life. >> photos, drawings, mementos. a secret world of a life once lived that this afghan university student noun grieves for. >> we stand in front of the mirror, when i look at myself i just see a different zahra from two years ago. >> on the 15th of august, 2021, zero life as she knew it was shattered. the taliban swept to power after the u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan following its 20-year war. handing back control to the same group of islamic extremists who ruled in the 1990s. while the taliban promised to be more moderate and on our women's rights within islamic law, the last two years have brought only a hard-line stance towards women. the closure of secondary schools for girls, the forced implementation of the burqa, the restriction on travel without a male chaperone, the banning of women from universities and working at ngos, including the united nations. and, just last month, the taliban closed all beauty salons that employed roughly 60,000 women, many of them the sole breadwinners of the homes. >> women's freedom doesn't exist. there is no such thing as women's freedom anymore. >> women's rights activists -- who stayed in kabul while more than 1 million afghans fled, said the taliban government is erasing women from society. >> even the rights that we have, even in sharia, we are losing all of that. so if it's not annihilation, what is it? then >> zahra, an inspiring designer, it is unclear what the taliban demands of her. >> just to stay at home, get married, you have to give birth to children, that's it. and this is your life, this is what women are made for. >> the international community repeal gauge the taliban's women and girls, the taliban is refusing to listen, saying it will not be pressured. >> afghanistan was freed from occupation. afghans were able to regain their country, freedom, government, and will. the only way to solve the problem is understanding and dialogue, pressure and force -- >> human rights activists feel that international condemnation is waning and that the taliban, desperate for international recognition, is gradually being normalized. >> they are posing in photographs with smiling diplomats, they're getting on private jets to fly off to important, high-level meetings where people rollout red carpet for them, they are being permitted to take control of embassies in a growing number of countries. so i think, you know, from their perspective it is going pretty well. >> a terrifying assessment for the women of this country. protests have all but disappeared, apart from a small group who faced the threat of arrest as they try to get the world's attention. for most, they suffer in silence. convinced that the world no longer cares. >> if it continues like this, the future is not only for me, but also for other girls, it is horrible and it is disaster. >> we spoke to taliban deputy spokesperson -- yesterday. he proudly listed the taliban's achievements such as restoring security and cracking down on drug addicts and the opium trade. when we asked him about girls education he was very invasive, refusing to say when girls will be allowed back to school or university. all he said was that the taliban needs to wait for the environment to become favorable. now, it is important to note that this was the very same line that the taliban gave back in the 1990s when they ruled for five years. in that time, rosemary, girls were never allowed to return to. school and at, we reap we appreciate your reporting on this, thank you. and, thank you for joining us i'm rosemary church. i will be back with more cnn newsroom in just a moment. please do stay with us. how long have you been tracking the value of our car? 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