suspect in a string of car thefts. they had a witness as describing the suspect as wearing neon shorts and a white shirt. that's when they saw the boy deshawn and detained him since he was wearing similar clothing and was in the same apartment complex as where witnesses saw that suspect running off to. the chief here has issued an apology. here's part of the statement he put out, saying, as the chief of police, i want to apologize this incident had such an effect on this young man and his family. i'm asking the community to consider all of the facts of the situation before making a judgment. the relationship with our community has been and will continue to be a top priority for the lansing police department. meanwhile, the bernard family have retains an attorney. the attorney claims the boy was wearing a gray shirt, not a white shirt and that the police should have also seen there was a noticeable age difference between the boy, 12 years old, and their suspect. they are considering legal action now against the city. >> thank you so much. ♪ hello, again, everyone. i'm fredericka witfield in washington, d.c. thank you so much for joining me. we begin this hour with breaking news. just moments ago i folk with a former georgia republican lieutenant governor jeff duncan, who told me he will testify on tuesday before a grand jury. fulton county district attorney fani willis has subpoenaed duncan to testify about efforts by former president trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 presidential election in georgia. he said he received his notification, which gives him 48 hours in which to appear. sara murray is joining us on the phone. what can you tell us about the significance of mr. duncan receiving that notification and confirming that he will indeed be there on tuesday? >> well, fred, we've sort of been waiting for the moment when fani willis would actually go before a grand jury, present her case and seek what we expect to be charges against more than a dozen individuals. the fact that jeff duncan was summoned to testify on tuesday is an indication that willis is going to be using the grand jury ma that meets on monday and tuesday to present her case. sources say this is the grand jury presentation that could take up to two days. it's possible she could begin presenting this case on monday and move to additional witnesses like jeff duncan on tuesday. this is the clearest indication of the timing of when this is all going to happen and she is going to go forward before this grand jury and is going to seek charges. we expect her to seek charges against former president trump, but she's also been looking in this investigation at a number of his allies. she's been looking at the fake electors who convened in georgia and cast their ballots for donald trump even though joe biden won the state. she's been looking at the harassment campaign against local election officials there and this voting systems breeach in cogeorgia. >> again, at least we know for the former georgia lieutenant governor he received his notification and will testify tuesday. we'll see how the rest of the week unfolds. we'll have more coming up. meantime, for many residents and business owners, it will be a first look after the deadliest natural disaster in hawaii's history. at least 80 people have died and many more are missing after wildfires raged across the island this week. police have now reopened the main road into hard-hit lahaina after abruptly shutting it down yesterday. the line of cars waiting stretched for nearly a mile overnight. people were sleeping in their cars waiting to see what, if anything, is left of their homes and businesses. more than a dozen federal agencies have now been sent to assist with the recovery efforts, including fema and the national guard. the devastation there expected to cost at least $5.5 billion to rebuild, all of this developing as we're seeing more videos of harrowing escapes. watch and listen. >> we got to walk somewhere over there by the beach. [ bleep ]. >> keep going, keep going. >> no, no, no, no, not like this! not like this! [indiscernible] >> wow, that is hard to listen to. that family, however, they did eventually make it to an evacuation shelter after taking refuge near the water. let's go now to cnn's mike valerio on maui. mike, you made your way past that road that was closed overnight. what are you seeing and hearing from people? >> we're the closest you can get to the perimeter of the disaster zone. we actually have some breaking news. the roadway was reopened into the perimeter. it seems as though people are being turned around and that it is being shut down once again, adding heartbreak to all of these people in the cars and trucks you see who have been sleeping overnight, waiting to get back into lahaina for over 15 hours right now on the highway. it seems is as though after about a hundred cars were let in since the last time we spoke with you, now an about-face. there's a road sign that says road closed, adding to the anxiety of people who slept here for hours waiting to get in, waiting to see what is left of their homes, their businesses, their restaurants. and now, just look at this. one after another after being checked and briefed on the situation, look at this, people are being turned around. we've been speaking to people since before the sun came up. let's see if one of these people will speak with us. you know, a couple people stopped before we came on the air and they just weren't sure what was going on. so this is certainly an unfortunate development. this is terrible. we're going to play you a sound bite. this is a man we spoke to about two hours ago. he was waiting inli line. just after sunrise, he was able to get into the perimeter. listen to what he told us about the last 13 to 14 hours of his day. this is what people have been going through. listen. >> i got out lhere by 11:00. i was done by 3:00 picking up all the supplies i got. i got to here and i've been here since 3:00 in the afternoon. none of us has moved. my coworker is up there two trucks. i got three other coworkers back there. they've been here the whole time. >> reporter: that's what happens happening at the granular level. cnn reporting as of this morning new estimates from fema and the pacific disaster center say $5.52 billion is what it will take to rebuild lahaina, 2,207 structures damaged or destroyed, 4,500 people will potentially need shelter because they have no more homes, nowhere else to go, six shelters here on the island are filled. we're going to try to grab an interview. we will let you get back to the rest of the news. we're going to see what these people are going to do if they cannot get into the perimeter to see what happened to their homes and potentially to their loved ones they haven't heard from since tuesday evening. >> we're seeing people doing u-turns behind you. they're being told one thing. and while you're talking, we saw a stream of cars coming from further down the road. we're going to let you do that reporting. thank you so much. we know people are incredibly disappointed after waiting for so many hours to get in. i want to bring in lauren gartner, the owner of cheeseburger and paradise, a restaurant in lahaina. how are you doing? >> that was horrifying report that i was just looking at. these are very tough times for everybody. good morning. >> yeah. very much so. i mean, you're coming to us from california. your business is there in lahaina, correct? you are empathizing with the people who have been in line for hours sleeping in their cars overnight because they want to see what's left of their homes, their businesses only to find out now while the road was open for a moment, it's not any loe longer. can you imagine what they're feeling? >> i can. we've been looking at is situation since we had several employees up on the highway starting on tuesday night. what's so important here is to balance why the county and the state doesn't want them to go in there and why there's so much chaos. there's toxic substances, fires and dangers there lurking for anybody walking around in the horror. they don't have anywhere to go. it's important for america to understand that lahaina is completely isolated by one road. you can't go from santa monica to l.a. to orange county. you can't go anywhere. you're stuck. you're on one road even if you turn around you're not going anywhere. everyone is in such chaos about what to do. they have a huge amount of people who have no place to live. everything they own, their money, their credit cards, everything is gone. they're relying on getting in line. it's a horrifying situation. >> it's horrible. if you were there, you escaped narrowly the fire, you've lost everything, you want to see what's left. there are people who you don't know what has happened to them. all lines of communication are gone for people. have you heard anything about the sequence of events for so many people, what they're enduring, what they are being told? if there are 4500 people who now don't have a place to live, how do they get a message about where they can take shelter? >> this is very difficult, because of the cell phone situation. m 90% of our employees have checked in. we only can get them on a cell phone for seconds. it's very difficult to get through. there are only a couple of places on the island that people can go. when we say that maybe you're on the other side, that's 45 minutes away in a normal day at 60 miles an hour. depending on whether they have cars, remember, if family is trying to help you or you're trying to get to your family on the other side of the island, you can't get there. they have what you need and they can give you shelter, but they can't get to you because there is one road in and out of lahaina. in kihei, business is going on as usual. if you don't understand maui, you can't imagine how we can have tourism on one side, and then you have this devastation on the other. they're 45 minutes away from each other. i only just saw pictures of people jumping into the water in front of our brewery. so i was horrified, i couldn't talk for ten minutes. the sound of those people asking for help -- remember, this thing came down as a firestorm in seconds. nothing like this has ever happened before. it was in seconds. these people had no way to get out. >> no way to get out and without warning, because that speaks to the nature of what happened. it's just horrifying to even imagine what people are going through now. while there may be some planes that land on maui empty, even if they leave, the island of maui and head to oahu, again they have no id, no personal effects, they've separated fr family, no way to communicate. it's the worst of the worst situation. lauren gardner, thank you so much for conveying just a scintilla of what people are going through. it's unimaginable and so sad. thank you so much. we're glad that you said 95% of your employees have been accounted for. >> yes. we're very grateful. but we're mindful of what everyone is going through. thank you. i appreciate your time. >> thank you so much. >> for more information on how you can help hawaii wildfire victims, go to cnn.com/impact or text "hawaii" to 707070 to donate. still to come, more on our breaking news that former georgia republican lieutenant governor jeff duncan will testify on tuesday before a grand jury about the efforts by former president trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 presidential election in georgia. how former president trump is responding now. so i called innovation refunds. their team of independent tax atattorneys wiwill work with your cpa to determine if your company is eligible. 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>> jeff duncan breaking this news on your show is giving us the most significant and clearest indication that district attorney fani willis is going to be seeking indictments when she goes before a grand jury. that grand jury is likely to be the one that meets on mondays and tuesdays. he's been called to testify on tuesday, but we've been told by sources this is a presentation before the grand jury that could take up to two days. it's possible this is something the district attorney could begin on monday. again, she's not just scrutinizing the conduct of donald trump and his efforts to try to overturn the 2020 election. she's looking at a number of donald trump's allies and supporters who tried to help him in that aim throughout the state. we've been told she could seek charges against more than a dozen individuals. people like jeff duncan are potentially key to this grand jury presentation, because they help craft the narrative around what donald trump and his many allies were doing around the 2020 election and sort of the various parts of the efforts to try to overturn the election results. >> that he would be called to testify, does that open up any kind of indication of others who may also be receiving the same kind of notification, since he was one of about 70 last year who testified before the grand jury? >> that's right. she's not going to be calling all the 75 witnesses to testify before the special purpose grand jury when she gives this summary of her case before the regular grand jury that can issue indictments. but she's going to potentially call a couple of people who can drive home some key points for her. we know there are a handful of people who previously received subpoenas and were essentially put on notice, the district attorney's office saying we'll give you a 48-hour heads-up if we need you to appear. it is possible that she is using multiple witnesses beyond jeff duncan to make this case before a grand jury. of course, she has her own investigators in her office who are able to go before a grand jury, summarize evidence, read evidence into the record or potentially play evidence into the record. you know they have copies of audio recordings of donald trump on calls, including the infamous call between donald trump and georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger. >> right. over the course of the past couple years, we've learned a lot publicly about the kinds of evidence that has been gathered. when i asked mr. duncan if he anticipated a particular new question as a result, he said, you know, he is just willing to answer any and all questions posed to him. cnn's marshall cohen is also with us. remind us all that is in encompassed in this investigation, because it has gotten very complicated when at first it seemed very simple. >> yeah. if you're the district attorney and you need two days to present your case to the grand jury, there's a lot there to talk about. sara mentioned that infamous phone call with donald trump and brad raffensperger, that's what got this investigation started, but there was so much more. donald trump got on the phone with the governor of georgia brian kemp trying to pressure him into meddling with the vote count, changing the totals. e phone with the attorney general of georgia and wanted to keep him away from a lawsuit that was trying to overturn the results. he sent allies like rudy giuliani and mark meadows to go to georgia. rudy giuliani presented bogus claims of fraud to the state senate and the state house. that has been a part of this investigation as well. mark meadows was on the ground in cobb county in atlanta where they were doing signature matching and sending updates back to the white house. there are other parts of this that were not directly tied to the white house and donald trump, but were allies of the former president who were trying to help his cause, people that were involved in the briefing of a voting system in a rural county trying to basically break in and find fraud on those machines. of course, the fraud didn't exist, because as we know so well, it was all based on a lie that the election had been rigged and stolen away from donald trump. so getting close to the time to face the music here in georgia. >> right. at first it seemed simple because there was the recorded conversation between trump and the secretary of state. it only seemed to blossom even further. even mr. duncan says that while at first there were a lot of trump loyalists along the way they've changed their mind and are no longer as loyal, but now more so to the truth. it will be interesting to see who is among the once loyalists to trump who are now being called to testify this week. thank you so much marshall cohen and sara murray for these latest developments. we'll, of course, dig some more and bring you more. straight ahead, we'll take you to the iowa state fair, where former president trump has just arrived. does he have any comments? 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[indiscernible] >> we're zeroing in on this moment not just because he is the frontrunner for the gop, but also because this moment comes just after we learned from the former georgia lieutenant governor jeff duncan that he has received a request to testify and to appear before the georgia fulton county grand jury in the ongoing investigation alleging trump's involvement in trying to overturn the 2020 presidential results. jeff duncan, a former lieutenant governor and also now a cnn contributor, letting us know he received the notification giving him 48 hours in which to appear. he says he will be appearing before the fulton county grand jury this tuesday. let's listen to see if anyone's able to get a reaction from the former president. [indiscernible] >> will you tell us about the fair? >> so this is the biggest crowd they've ever had. >> we want to bring in chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny. you never know when you may have a moment when you have live microphones there whether we hear a response or someone asking a cogent question about the news of the day there. jeff, you're at the fair. also alongside you on the screen is the associated press's michelle price. we have this news about jeff duncan saying he will be appearing before the grand jury. then you also have that coinciding with this moment. i would like to see if we can listen to the former president if there's a moment. can we do that? >> to watch this and to see this -- we do have a beautiful day in iowa. but there's a record crowd. they've never had anything very close. i'm very happy about it. thank you, everybody. >> all right. now jeff. go, jeff. >> reporter: sure. the former president is just actually about 100 yards or so from us. he's stopping at the pork producers tent, where they have the famous pork chops on a stick. he'll be making his way around the iowa state fair. this could not be more of a metaphor of how the legal cases against him really are colliding and unfolding simultaneously with this presidential campaign happening just as he is flying here to iowa. regardless of what he says now, he'll have a chance to speak about this. i'm told later he'll be addressing folks here. we know what he thinks about this. in fact, he sent out a message on his social media as he was flying here, calling that georgia phone call again when he was asking for more votes, a forge perfect call. we know what his response is to this. what is interesting here at the fair is that iowa voters and others are beginning to weigh their decisions here. this is part of the calculation. yes, he does come into this summer five months before the first voting begins as the frontrunner. there is no doubt. but it's a frontrunner with many questions. when you talk to voters and officials here, they will say that more voters have open minds than you may think. other kcandidates clearly are here as well. ron desantis and nikki haley trying to make their case as well. yes, he is here greeting supporters. this is a split-screen moment literally and politically. >> michelle, the former president is very good at making it seem like this is normal. this is the way i scripted it. he's carrying on with the thing that he wants to do, which is, press the flesh with people there, talk and make it seem like he is in control of the moment. but clearly in the back of his mind has to be what potentially can be said by jeff duncan or anyone else when they appear before the grand jury in fulton county, georgia, and how the rest of those proceedings will unfold this coming week. >> that's right. jeff perfectly hit the nail on the head. this moment is encapsulating what this campaign is about for donald trump at this moment. he's trying to arrive at the fair. then there's news breaking about his legal cases. his campaign has so far embraced this. his campaign spokesman has said the campaign strategy is the legal strategy and the legal strategy is the political strategy. these two are intertwined. when we speaks to supporters in a little bit, we're fully expecting him to talk about his legal cases. he never misses an opportunity. the question is whether voters still want to hear that. >> he is likely not to dodge that moment and speak to reporters. however, this does come right after district court judge in d.c. said be careful about what it is that you share and what it is that you say. now preemptively you would think that the former president is going to be reticent or careful about what he says leading into a week of a new grand jury, you know assembling here in fulton county. self-restraint has been difficult, jeff, for this former president, but perhaps now is a time in which he is going to be tested unlike any other time. >> self-restraint is really not part of the vocabulary of the former president. up until now, if past is prologue, he will not follow the guidance or the request of his attorneys, perhaps even the judge given to him on this. so we will see what he says. he has very consistent saying it was a perfect phone call, but we all heard that phone call, because that was recorded to the georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger asking for more votes so he could win georgia, of course, and turn that state red. regardless of what happens, when you're talking to voters and other candidates, they are bringing all this up. yes, his supporters believe he's being ganged up on. i just talked to one voter who said, he is with trump, he plans to stay with him, he said, unless something happens at the end. i think we have a bit of sound from a short time ago, a little earlier this morning when former south carolina governor nikki haley didn't directly address the indictment potentially in georgia, but she did talk about all the drama hanging over this race. >> republicans have lost the last 7 out of 8 popular votes for president. that is nothing to be proud of. we should want to win the majority of americans. we have the solutions. we know how to lift up everybody. we just have to communicate it the right way. this is not rocket science. this is common sense. it is time that government starts working for the people and not the other way around. i'll tell you, in order to do this, we have to face certain truths. it is time for a new generation. it is time that we leave the negativity. >> reporter: so just talking about it's time for a new generation of leaders and to move on from all of this drama. we have to watch all of this unfold. as michelle was saying as well, the political strategy and the legal strategy are, quite frankly, one and the same, at least for now. >> jeff zeleny, michelle price, thanks to both of you. we'll be right back. or more. that's why f farmers 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that includes at the roosevelt hotel here in midtown manhattan. it's the intake center where both check in before they're sent to their long-term housing. there is a federal team that's been on the ground this week, sent here by the department of homeland security, a dhs official telling me this week that it will be their responsibility to review the situation here on the ground, report back to washington, and then see what additional resources can be sent to new york city as it struggles to keep up. >> as we've seen the numbers of s asylum seekers go down, we've seen the numbers in new york city take the opposite direction and go up. >> reporter: senior city officials faced a grilling from city council members, who were told that hundreds of adult asylum seekers had been issued 60 days notice to leave shelters, part of a policy mayor eric adams recently a nouned. it requires migrants who have been in shelters without children for a significant amount of time to find other housing. >> we help those who need it to move out of shelter and take their next steps forward. >> it almost feels like we're sacrificing one group of people because we have a higher responsibility to children and, you know, families. >> reporter: new york city officials insist they are completely out of options and say all you have to do is look inside any of the city's nearly 200 shelters. like this one in a building next to new york's jfk air cargo terminals that normally serves as a postal facility. now it's serving as a temporary home for some 750 male asylum seekers. a space typically dedicated to sorting mail during the holidays, now a massive dormitory. the parking lot bathrooms and showers. the loading dock, a makeshift prayer room. >> initially a lot of folks were from venezuela. we now have 12, 14, 15 different languages spoken. >> reporter: this is the emergency management commissioner. >> every day we have about 500 people, 300 to 500 people that we're looking for room, looking for spaces. we can't open up sites fast enough. this is sort of the layout. >> reporter: he offered cnn this rare look inside one of the city's nearly 200 sites currently being used to house about 60,000 migrants and counting. this particular site serves as a so-called respite center, originally designed to meet short-term and basic housing needs. but not anymore, warns the commissioner. >> we modelled this after the emergency storm shelters we set up for coastal storms. those are designed just to house people for generally 48 to 72 hours. we have folks that are staying in these facilities for much longer, upwards of, you know, a mo month, month and a half. >> reporter: he admits it's not ideal for long-term housing, but with options running out, residents are making do. some skip the laundromat and air dry their clothes and there's a makeshift barber shop on the floor. none of this is sustainable according to city officials. finding private shelter space is a whole other challenge, at the city's primary intake center, we wait where this woman waits to be assigned long-term housing for her family: we don't know where they'll place us says the mother, like the many asylum seekers who have arrived in new york since last spring. the only guarantee is uncertainty. and there are no shelters that are slated to open in the next couple of weeks that will add to that nearly 200 number. one of them at randall's island, expected to increase capacity by about 2,000 people. this sounds familiar. there was one open less than a year ago at that very site, a tent-like facility. they had to close it down because the numbers were relatively low. a year later, it's completely different. a quick, interesting bit we learned, each one of them is sort of a very intricate setup, and also just a global reach here. in fact, lately they've had to sort of rotate the order in which they issue their announcements, including showers being open. instead of spanish going first, they might move it toward the tail end because they have ten languages in some of these facilities. >> very complex. thank you so much. hello, again, everyone. thank you so much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. first on cnn, we are following major new developments in what could soon be donald trump's fourth indictment. just a short time ago i spoke with former georgia republican lieutenant governor jeff duncan, who told me that he will testify in the next 48 hours before a grand jury in atlanta. fulton county district attorney fani willis has subpoenaed duncan to testify about efforts by former president donald j. trump and his es