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agenda rae epayremains stalled. these community tsies that will seeing this higher risk need to make sure they receive funding so they can build more resilient infrastructure. back to you guys. >> thank you. it's the top of the hour. >> good to be with you. the u.s. says the yunited natios emergency meeting showed russia a worldwide united front against any invasion of ukraine. the u.s. asked for the meeting. russia and china tried to block it. the president said the u.s. is ready no matter what happens as russia continues the military build up along the ukraine border. >> with russia continuing to build up of its forces around ukraine, we are ready no matter what happens. >> the u.s. ambassador said that russia plans to bolster troops in belarus that borders ukraine to 30,000 troops. ukraine representative believes russia has amassed more than 110,000 ground forces with another 18,000 maritime and aviation personnel at the ready. the ambassador was hoping russia would explain why it was building up its mill ta air long y -- military along ukraines border. did they? >> no. they denied there's any proof they will invade. saying the u.s. is causing his tie -- hysteria. they are trying to encourage countries to be worried about something that is not happening. the united states made it clear that what they are seeing is dangerous and urgent military build up in the words of the u.s. ambassador to the united nations. she says the con ksequences cou be horrific if russia did go forth with the i vags. here is her response to the russians claiming the united states is just essentially making this up and this isn't a true problem. >> you've heard from our russian colleagues that wii e're call f this meeting to make you feel uncomfortable. imagine how uncomfortable you would be if you had 100,000 troops sitting on your border. this is not about antics. it's not about rhetoric. it's not about u.s. and russia. what this is about is the peace and security of one of our member states. out of this meteorologist it appears that diplomacy is not right for creating a solution to this president but the ambassador to the united nation says they hope that russia sees that the united states isn't alone in this sentiment. if russia goes forth and does invade ukraine, this will create an issue for all of europe, more than 130 member states. >> thank you very much. let's bring in susan glasser, our cnn global affairs analyst and retired army major general james spider marks. did this u.n. security council meeting move the needle at all? >> i think it's an important step that the biden administration took to go to the united nations. in some ways it's been surprising it's taken this long. i think it's a reflection that diplomatic behind the scene talks from not produced any meaningful breakthrough so why not. it's important to show the world that the u.s. and its partners are doing everything they can to resolve this diplomatically. i think it fulfills the function of forcing the russians to be on the record one way or the other. they've said again and again a and now they said it at the u.n. security council they have no intention of invading ukraine, it's ridiculous. that may not stop them from invading ukraine. it won't stop them but it makes it more and more clear that if they do so, it's after gaslighting the world for months with this crisis that they have created. >> general, a step further than denying they ri going to invade the russian ambassador to the u.n. denies there's 100 russian tr -- 100,000 russian troops on the border. i wonder what you saw and heard from the russians? >> the russians have a capability. we have the intelligence, we have seen what those capabilities look like. >> we hear you. keep going. >> my apologies. clearly, the russians have capabilities on the boarder. we have sources on the ground that have validated all of that. the russians have presence in ukraine supporting the separatists in eastern ukraine. clearly, what's going to happen, it is imminent. putin will pull the trigger. the timing is going to be a little bit suspect. i don't think he cares about the olympics and timing and the conflict there. i think what's going to happen is he'll push additional forces across the border while everybody is looking up north at belarus and its very short distance from belarus into the capital of will completely cut off from the plaque sea. can't economically sustain itself, can't get to the plaque sea and somebody cries uncle in short amount of time. >> we heard that scenario spelled out by an analyst last week. do you see the writing on the wall that way? >> i don't want to get in the business of prognosticating what vladmir putin will do. what hasn't been focused on is ukraine is not in a position to win a military conflict with russia. a lot of the conversation in recent weeks has been around what's the price that russia will pay both militarily and otherwise economically, diplomatically for doing so. i think sometimes the talk of troop movements by nato allies by the united states, those aren't troops that will be going into ukraine to defend ukraine. weapons are being shipped to ukraine now but no one that i've heard suggest in a meaningful way that the ukrainian military is in a position to stop russia from doing this. it could be over in matter of days, a conflict like the one the general is outlining. >> if you believe that putin is going to pull the trigger, he is going to invade. these threats of punishing sanctions for those in putin's inner circle. we heard from the circle that the president will move them in the near term. are these threats at all? are they significant deterrants if you believe he's already made up his mind? >> i don't know he's completely made up his mind. i think he has. if the sanctions are so punishing and inevitable in this particular case. those are underbosses to putin. those oligarchs would have gone to putin and said i'm all in on this particular course of action here. if we suffer, you're going to suffer along with us and if that was the case, we would see a retreat from these actions that we're seeing right now. i'm not convinced that putin thinks that removing russia from the swift code, those kinds of economic sanctions that truly are, could shred the economy of russia and his oligarchs. i don't think that will happen. he would be moving the forces away and he would be a hero. the sad thing here is putin could be a hero either way . >> we have heard hitting them in the pocketbooks would be an effective deterrent. it's hard to know if they are moving down that path. >> to a certain extent vladimir putin has already baked t d tha price into his decision making. he's not deescalated. that suggests he's willing to pay what price he thinks it's going to cost. the gas pipeline to germany that's been an issue in recent years. he understands that's gone. clearly he understands there could be a different level of sanctions that the kind that were levelled against him and his allies before in 2014. he's already baked that into his calculations. i think that's part of why you're hearing this extreme level of concern from the u.s. side right now because there's a sense that it's not derring putin from proceeding right now. i think that's very worrisworri. >> thank you both. >> thank you. appreciate it. grocery prices keep climbing and most americans are feeling it. is there any relief coming? 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>> this is challenge that, as you know, we're well aware. you heard the president talking about that in your segment. i think we need to start with the diagnosis of this problem. we have a situation where very strong demand and by that i mean gdp growth rates that we haven't seen for 40 years. let's not lose this backdrop. we have the tightest labor market we have seen perhaps in generations. unemployment fell faster last year than any year on record. over six million jobs created. against that backdrop we have the supply constraints that you just talked about. this is a global problem. inflation is elevated in countries across the globe. that tells you it's not just a unique american problem but we, at the president's direction, are doing everything we can to help the very people in that story when it comes to port, trucking, semiconductors, lowering kitchen table costs, protecting consumers, pursuing more competition. i can go into granular detail including the 60% decline in dwell time of containers at the ports. that's the work we're trying to do to unsnarl the chains. >> you lay out the problem over the last several months people have learned to understand the problem. 79% of americans expect that inflation will continue to grow over 2022. half of those people think it will be by a lot. i will again ask if there's any forecast of when there's relief and are those people expecting the prices to go up, are they right? >> i track every inflation forecast known to man and woman. it's just part of my job. vir kmully every forecast has inflation growing half as fast at the end of this year than it was at the end of last year. if you consumer price index growing at 7% at tend of 2021, forecast for it to be growing between 2.5 to 3% at the end of '22. these are all forecasts and forecasts can be wrong. we're not crossing our fingers and sitting on our hands and hoping they will be right. we are working 24 and 7 to get the ports working 24 and 7. to get goods from ship to shelf. i don't want to let this go by because you had it in your report. the many numbers that were out there. 13% increase in throughput through the ports. there's actually a significant uncrease in the performance of that part of our chain. the difference is there's strong demand. where does that come from? from one of the strongest economy, labor markets on record. i don't think we want to lose that backdrop. imagine if we were going through this inflation and unemployment was 9% instead of below 4%. >> i hear you. on the point of inflation, 3.5 by the end of this year. that's still above the 2% goal of where the administration wants to be and where it expects it will be. let's move onto housing. up 14% last year to an average of 1877 a month. up nearly 40% in cities across this country. some cities saying 40%. what is this administration doing to keep people in their homes as we're watching this rental assistance money run out in some places? >> i want to clear the forecast i was siting, those are not white house forecasts. those are market base forecasts. inflation is expected to decelerate based if part on the kinds of improvements i was discussing around supply chains. our administration has been trying to reallocate unused funds from the $47 billion emergency rental assistance program. this was a key program that continues to go out there to help people facing the kind of rent pressures that you were just talking about. right now we have payments working in washington and houston and san diego. the president has also talked about $100,000 affordable home initiative over the next few years by making sure low cost funding is available to people who finance those kinds of production. not just occupied housing but multifamily housing as well. >> jared, we're coming up on the beginning of february. the first friday we get the jobs report. should people expect job losses? >> very important question. it turns out that the peak of omicron cases coincided when the payroll data was being collected. if you were not at work, if you were on unpaid leave, you're not counted as being on the payroll. because you're not paid and it's payroll survey, you're sick, make caring for someone with covid, there's millions of people like this. if you're not at work because of the omicron variant, you're not going to be counted in the payroll. that's why many forecasters are calling for an unusually low job rate for january. some are forecasting a negative rate. we'll have to see. it's not something you can forecast because it's such an unusual situation. i think the key point from our per speckive is the underlying strength of the economy, the underlying strength of the job market is ongoing because as we have seen the case loads are turning over. >> all right. thanks for jour time. >> thank you. well, the georgia da investigating former president trump is asking the fbi to provide security after an incendiary speech by trump. mp president biden promised to name a plblack woman. one gop saying the woman would be a beneficiary of affirmative action. nex lasts 12 hours, so i'm good. now move! kim, no! mucinex lasts 3x longer for 12 hours. real cowboys get customized car insurance with liberty mutual, so we only pay for what we need. -hey tex, -wooo. can someone else get a turn? 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>> of course not. oh, my goodness no. >> he couldn't have been more clear. what are republicans going to do now they know that's one of his top priorities? >> they're not happy. the dpgovernor has been more willing than other republican, particularly here in washington, to be openly critical of the former president. his close friend and ally over the past few years, lindsey graham was also critical saying that -- suggesting that, promising he would pardon anybody who was responsible for the unbelievable storming of the capitol, incredible violence, deadly violence, he would pardon them. he said it was very inappropriate. even former president can cross a line and has crossed the line there. the question is, to what end. to what end bauds even though he said that and you're right it is, i see what you're saying when you say it's helpful because he is very explicit and putting it all out there and making it harder for the republicans who support him pause their supporters are backing him, harder for them to do so but doesn't mean those republicans would not jump to vote for him in and when, maybe we should say if he does run in 2024. >> we also heard the former president call for the biggest demonstrations yet in atlanta and d.c. and new york if there's anything that prosecutors do that he deems to be illegal or unfair. we are seen what this president can foment. we just watched a video of it. liz cheney said he is using the language that caused the january 6th violence. what did you marry from former president's rally this weekend? >> the language is aggressive. it's targeted and what's interesting is you heard that part where he said racist. donald trump is saying that the prosecutors are racist in an effort to really trigger his voters. he knows that sort of language is going to get a sense of righteous indignation that they are being discriminated d d aga. it's like tphrase we're hearing reverse racism. they are justified in reacting how they want. she's been clear she is unbiassed and takes no pleasure in this investigation and skrus try -- just trying to get to justice. donald trump knows he can use these words to create fear. >> dana i know you had conversation about supreme court nominees, so tell us. >> one of the big things, comment from last week is roger wicker, the senator from mississippi who said that the idea of the president announcing that he is going to pick a black woman for the supreme court is akin to affirmative action and quotas. that is another thing that is putting his colleagues in a very uncomfortable position because not everybody agrees with him at all. that's something else that i talked to the new hampshire governor about. >> i'm never for quotas. in the opportunity of bringing somebody to the u.s. supreme court, it's an amazing opportunity as and has to be on merit. >> is this a quota? >> i say as a governor i don't see things as quotas like that. there's a number of limited individuals. you want folks with a diverse background. in that sense, i wouldn't agree it's a quota. >> when it comes to supreme court nominations, we have seen over the past five, six years senate republicans, particularly the leadership, kind of impervious to geneuine and understandable criticism of being hypocrites. in this particular case there's a lot of fodder there because it was former president trump who promised after rbg died ta he would nominate a woman. he didn't say a black woman but he said a woman. was that okay or was it okay for him when he was candidate to not just say the kind of justice he would appoint but also gave names. named names in order to court conservative. there's so much hypocrisy but this issue is probably just beginning of the kind of fight we're going to see because there will be a black woman who will be nominated and democrats are steeling themselves if for the fight. >> natasha your thoughts. >> i listen to this and say why does affirmative action stress people out so much. when roger wicker, when amy coney barrett was being nominated, it was all this praise and how he was inspired for his granddaughters to look at her. when you talk about a black woman having this seat, they can't get the minds around the idea this woman would be qualified. even in lindsey graham in paradesing michelle childs which is like this rare moment of sanity in politics which he states she is objectsively qualified, she says that affirmative action is picking someone who is not qualified. affirmative action is about fair consideration. a lot of non-black woman benefit from affirmative action. there's something about this phrase that people misunderstand. maybe it's willful, maybe it's not. people have to understand for 115 supreme court justices have existed and the majority of them have been white men. for america to truly be represented having a single black woman is the bare minimum. >> thank you. overnight federal prosecutors announced a plea deal with two men convicted of killing ahmaud arbery. the family believes the plea deal is unlawful and will fight to overturn it. we'll discuss that, next. at capella university, we know the world is pretty smart. wicked smart. so we made flexpath smart enough that you can finish the bachelor's degree in business you've started in 18 months for $18,000. that's smart. capella university. don't just learn. learn smarter. as a dj, i know all about customization. that's why i love liberty mutual. they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? 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