trump used incendiary language. >> if these radical vicious racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal, i hope we are going to have in this country the biggest protest we have ever had in washington, d.c. in new york, in atlanta and elsewhere because our country and our elections are corrupt. their corrupt. >> at that same rally, trump gave a glimpse into a possible second term. he said he would pardon january 6 insurrectionists if he wined in 2024. jessica schneider joins us now. tell us about this letter that the fulton county d.a. sent to the fbi. >> the d.a. is raising the alarm on trump's rhetoric and asking the fbi now for help. this is a request that went out by letter. it was sent almost immediately to the fbi after trump's rally on saturday night where you heard him take aim at several officials in georgia and new york, all three of whom are black and they're investigating him or his allies or his business. d.a. willis is very concerned about trump's rhetoric so she's asking the fbi to step in here and she's even telling the fbi especially agent in charge that she has already heard from people unhappy with her investigation into trump's possible election interference and now that he's ramping up the rhetoric she's asking the fbi for two things. here is what she said in the letter to the special agent in charge in the atlanta field office. she said i'm asking that you immediately conduct a risk assessment of the fulton county courthouse and government center and that you provide protective resources to include intelligence and federal agents. it is imperative that these resorts are in place well in advance of the convening of the special purpose grand jury. because as we learned last week, the special grand jury will be sitting may 2nd to subpoena people for testimony and compel discovery and obviously here the d.a. is very concerned about possible threats to anyone involved in that investigation into trump and his allies. especially now that trump is publicly promising more protests here and the d.a. is worried, alisyn and victor, that it could be a repeat of january 6 in atlanta if trump supporters interpret this as a call to action. so this letter requesting the help, it was sent out yesterday. our team has reached out to the fbi in atlanta to find out what will happen here. and if, in fact, the d.a. there will get the risk assessment of the government buildings and specially some extra protection as well. >> we'll look for updates on that. joining us now, olivia troy, a former homeland security security adviser for vice president pence. harry litman is a contributor and john dean. he's also the co-author of "authoritarian nightmare, trump and his followers", welcome to all. john dean, i'm starting with you. and i want to get straight to this promise from the former president that pardons could come for the january 6 insurrectionists. hear what he said. >> if i run and if i win, we will treat those people from january 6th fairly. we will treat them fairly. and if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons because they are being treated so unfairly. >> pardons for those who attacked the capitol on january 6, what do you hear there. >> well it is a little fuzzy, the pardon itself is an act of grace. this doesn't sound like an act of grace. it sounds like an act of excusing those who support him and went to violence and that could well start getting into the area of abusing the pardon power and abusing, obstructing justice by doing so. the pardon power is extremely broad. one of the really unreviewable acts by a president. but if he does it with another purpose, for example if he did it for a bribe, that would then be an illegal act. if he does it to obstruct justice, that would be an illegal act. so he's playing with fire right now. >> oliva, let's remind our viewers, people that donald trump thinks are his people, the people that he has sympathy for and he wants to pardon. let's give everybody a little taste of those people. >> if these radical vicious, racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal, i hope we are going to have in this country the biggest protest we have ever had in washington, d.c. in, new york, in atlanta and elsewhere because our country and our elections are corrupt. they're corrupt. >> so on the right side of your screen is you see the people that i'm talking about, which were the blood thirsty mob, they injured 140 police officers and so i ty that it is helpful, actually, to hear donald trump spell out for voters exactly what he plans to do if he's re-elected. and what is interesting, and i know you've been working on this as your other day job, and that is what are rational republicans to do when he said that those are the people that he wants to see again on the streets without any accountability. i mean you even started to hear senator lindsey graham and people on the sunday shows that that is totally in. so isn't it time for republicans to say, we don't want those people who hurt police officers to be, you know, not held accountable? >> it is way past time for them to come forward and actually hold people accountable and call out donald trump on what he is doing. he's galvanizing people for protecting his own sort of measures and he's also galvanizing a population out there and promoting violence. i mean, this is -- donald trump remains one of the most dangerous public figures in the history of our country. that is -- that speech was dangerous. it is out there, it is pushing violence in our communities. and so what is it that republicans want? because this was the party that claimed to be the party of law and order. so did donald trump. remember that narrative. that is the narrative that he ran on where he wanted to bring law and order to your communities now he's telling you straight out that law and order to him means pandemonium and chaos on the street and danger. that is what law and order is for him. it is no longer a convenient narrative for him. >> and harry going after three prosecutors, the fullon county d.a. and a.g. as well and you heard in the sound bite called them vicious, radical racist, these are three african americans. we know the president's history on race, highlighting these three as racist, you hear what? >> i hear, i'm not very silent dog whistle and that is starting to rise and all of this, i think, is supposed to be read meat to his followers and it does it to get libs furious and but nevertheless, it is just unspeakably foul. we've spent four years dividing us, there is a emerging consensus that terrorist as tacking the capitol to deter the rule of law is a bad thing and that is exactly what he goes for. and anything that can divide, that is the one play in this playbook. but, yes, racist, where does that possibly come from and to whom is that directed? that was fairly stunning, i would say, even for him. >> and john, i think that agree with harry but i don't think he's just doing this to get the libs angry. and to sort of be entertaining. i think we need to believe him, when he said what his vision is, for his next term, that he will ignore the will of the voters, and this time he would choose a vice president who would go along with the cheating scheme, because he's still so miffed at what pence did and he brought it up again. and i know that you agree, john, that was one of the most dangerous speeches in the history of the u.s. >> it was lel is. and in 246 years of our country, you won't find a parallel speech. this is the bottom. this is as low as we've ever gone. particularly for somebody who is still aspires the office. i think he is actually telegraphing that he wants a base that will let him obstruct justice, and they will riot if he doesn't get away with it or if anyone tries to do anything that is proper and hold him accountable. so that is why i say he's playing with fire. he is right at the edge of obstruction already, even before he has gotten in that office. and hopefully the authorities are not going to be intimidated. i think what the georgia prosecutor, the fulton county prosecutor did was very intelligent, to get the fbi involved, to alert them, to call attention to the violence he's calling for, and to address it. so, yes, this is a bad moment in our democracy and trump is going to, i fear, push it further. >> that rally on saturday. on sunday, harry, the former president released a statement of the discussion of the electoral count act and revising that. the president, former president put out a statement saying that what they're saying is mike pence did have the right to change the outcome and now they want to take that right away. unfortunately he didn't exercise that power. he could have overturned the election. harry, for anybody who is still out here arguing there is nuance between overturning the election and what former president wanted him vice president to do to hold off until there was some count or audit, he said the quiet part out loud. >> no nuance what so offer, no possibility. and i do want to speak to john's point, because he's shown us, right now he's lobbying the grenades from the side lines and he got into office and people thought he might temper, but he just reupped. the pardon power was his most abusive act as president. he really is saying, this is what i'll do and people who voted for trump last time around really ought to think, do you want the four more years of these kinds of shocks to the system and outrage to the rule of law. >> people need to believe what he's saying. he is telegraphing it. >> totally. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> so this hour president biden is meeting with the amir of qatar in the oval office. >> they're expected to discuss the global energy supply and the humanitarian crisis in afghanistan. >> phil mattingly is with us now. tell us the goal of this meeting? >> reporter: white house officials are candid when they say there are very critical components of what president biden is doing, where qatar is a crit wal player but there is none more so when it comes to natural gas and how they're dealing with the need for potential contingency plans if russia decides to invade ukraine. they are aware that could cause severe strain to natural gas production and that is why qatar is one of certainly countries, the white house is talking to, to help try and fill the gap. one of the largest gas producers in the world, one of the largest liquified natural gas producers in the world. qatar could fill any gaps presented by a russian invasion an the sanctions that would follow should russia decide to limit natural gas to u.s. allies in europe. so that is one element of the conversation. there is to question the praise heaped on qatar and its ruler in the wake of the afghanistan withdrawal, almost can't be quantified in terms of the role there, in helping base u.s. operations there, serve on the diplomatic side as well and to include the qatar ambassador helping to in person take out u.s. personnel and officials from afghanistan during that withdrawal so that is an issue as well. keep an eye on iran where qatar played a critical role. >> and we understand that the president is going to have an important meeting about his supreme court nominee. so what is happening with that? >> reporter: tomorrow the president will be welcoming the top two members of the senate judicial committee which will consider whoever the nominee is. chairman richard durbin and chuck grassley on that committee and jen psaki, the white house press secretary made clear that the president is not looker for consent to the u.s. senate, but looking for advice from the top two members of the committee. the white house is clear they don't expect a ton of republican support for whoever they put up but the president has a relationship with senator grassley, a 36-year senator and he served on the judicial committee when biden was chairman. so tre traditional process and tomorrow is the start of that with a meeting between the president and those two senators. guys. >> phil mattingly at the white house. thank you. into the u.s. and russia face off at the united nations. russia said it has no plans to invade ukraine. the u.s. is not buying that. two of the top diplomats are scheduled to speak tomorrow. and joe rogan said he will make changes to his podcast after covid misinformation. so we're going to ask the experts some of whom wrote the letter to force this change and see if they're satisfied. m livil and thanks to imbruvica (man 2 vo) i'm living longer. 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positioned at the ukraine border. president biden said that the u.n. meeting is, quote, a critical step in rallying the world to speak out in one voice. >> an the president went on to repeat his warnings to vladimir putin, if instead russia choose tooz walk away from diplomacy and attack ukraine, russia will bear the responsibility and it will face swept and severe consequences. but the russian ambassador continued moscow's denials and said there will be no invasion. >> translator: you are almost calling for this. you want it to have -- you're waiting for it to happen. as if you want to make your words become a reality. this is despite the fact that we are constantly rejecting these allegations. >> cnn pentagon correspondent orren lieber marn is with us now. tell us about the comments. >> the u.s. called for this meeting as a chance to show first of all russia that the world is united standing behind ukraine. obviously with the exception of russia and interesting to know china also objecting to this meeting. but also for a chance to russia to answer why it has so many forces along the ukraine easter border but linda thomas greenfield said those questions didn't get any answers and there was no explanation offered by the russian side as what they intended to do with this many forces. the u.s. and nato concern and international concern is that russia plans to use these to potentially invade ukraine and that is what the u.s. is trying to head off, to give russia an opportunity to show on off-ramp. instead they accused them of hysteria, which thomas greenfield rejected. >> i cannot let the false equivalency go unchecked. so i feel i must respond. let me be clear, there are no plans to weaken russia as claimed by russian colleagues today. on the contrary, we welcome as a responsible member of the international community. >> meeting now -- >> -- our guests good russia and ukraine. hi a productive talk last week with president zelensky and we continue engage in nonstop diplomacy and to de-escalate tensions and attempt like the devil to improve security for our allies and partners and for all of europe for that matter. and today, the united nations, we've laid out the full nature of russia's threat to ukraine's sovereignty and the territorial integrity of ukraine as well as the core tenants of a rule-based international order. and we continue to urge diplomacy as the best way forward. but, with russia's continuing its build up of forces, around ukraine, we are ready no matter what happens. i want to know that the uae defeated a ballistic missile attack launched by the houthis, a separate issue from yemen yesterday. and we've been in daily contact with the uae to address those threats. i direct it to secretary austin to do everything he can to communicate the support of the united states for the uae, saudi arabia and throughout the gulf region. america will have the backs of our friends in the region. today, i'm honored to be here with a good friend who has been wonderful relationship since i've been president and before, the sheikh, i want to welcome you to the white house. 50 years of partnership. you're not that old. but 50 years of partnership. and this past year our partnership with qatar was -- has been central to many of our most vital interests. relocating tens of thousands of afghans, maintaining stability in gaza and providing life-saving assistance to the palestinians, keeping pressure on isis and deterring threats across the middle east. and a lot more. and and the amir and i have a lot on our agenda and we want that touk about the security in the gulf and the broader middle east ensuring the stability of global energy supplies, continuing our work together to support the people of afghanistan, and strengthening cooperation between our two countries. and speak of that, on that front, i want to applaud the new deal that qatar airways group signed with boeing for $20 billion deal. one of the largest deals that boeing aircraft has ever had. and it will support tens of thousands of good-paying u.s. jobs here in america. qatar is a good friend and reliable and capable partner and i'm notifying congress that i will designate qatar as a major non-nato ally to reflect the importance of our relationship. i think it is long over due. and i want to thank you again, your highness, for being here and for making this trip for you, your commitment to our friendship and between our nations and i look forward to our discussion today. >> well, thank you very much, mr. president. good afternoon to everyone. i'm very happy to be here, mr. president. 2022 is a very important year. it marks the 50th anniversary of our diplomatic relationship between qatar and the united states of america. it is a very strong relationship and we're very proud about it. we're very proud of what we have achieved. of course, this afternoon i'm going to be talking with the president about different topics. mainly about the security of our region, i think we demonstrated that how solid and strong we could work together and cooperate on what we did in afghanistan. we're very proud that we managed to evacuate tens of thousand of people of afghanistan. of course we have other issues as well that we're going to talk about. the equal rights of the palestinian people, and other issues in the region. so we're very happy and proud of this great relationship and we're going to continue working together to find ways and means to bring peace in our region. so thank you very much for seeing me today, mr. president, and as you mentioned, that we'll be talking about several topics. >> thank you. thank you. >> president biden there with the amir of qatar. making some remarks off the top about the west solidarity in its reaction, response to the russian aggressions along the border with ukraine. many other topics also on the table. >> let's bring in pentagon correspondent oren liebermann. he said he's engaging in non-stop diplomacy to try to prevent the russia/ukraine tensions to tamp down and said he would like to mak non-nato major allies. >> first' dressed russia and ukraine off the top. he's aware of what is going on at the un security council and underlied nato and europe which is if russia decided to invade ukraine, if vladimir putin makes that decision, they stand united that many have described as punishing and nothing like it has seen before. so he underscored that position and this is after the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. linda thomas greenfield that russia was given an opportunity to provide explanations and answers, perhaps even an off-ramp and chose not to do so. in terms of qatar, he addressed the partnership not only when it comes to liquified natural gas, which plays into russia, but the help qatar continues to give when it comes to the evacuation of u.s. citizens, afghans and others from afghanistan. but also and i'll underscore the issue of natural gas, that is one of the major concerns, if there is conflict with russia, the u.s. is looking for where else and what other countries could provide natural gas to europe given qatar's natural gas supply, given the status as an exporter of natural gas. that will be one of the key topics of conversation in the event that russia chooses to cut off europe from natural gas. so all of this ties together. and underscoring that he said that qatar could be a non-nato ally. that is the relationship and also another underscore how important nato is and how powerful it is in terms of what happens when it stands united. which is also something that biden is trying to show here. >> okay, oren liebermann, thank you. joining us now is michael bosser, a global affairs analyst and the former spokesperson for the organization for security and cooperation in europe. michael, thanks so much for being here. you probably just heard the president's comments there. how do you describe the state of play right now, this hour between the tension of russia and ukraine? >> good to be with you, alisyn. i had to pinch myself this morning listen to the u.n. security council session. this is cold war rhetoric, a lot of tit-for-tat, and it doesn't get any better than this. but when the russians show no sign of relenting. their accusing the west of pumping ukraine with weapons, of destabilization and denying that they have 100,000 troops on the the border. so clear think ere is a deep di. very interesting to see the procedural vote take place. china and russia blocked the vote but they got kenya and india to abstain and i should point out i did a bit of gum chew investigation and gabon and kenya have both either received or ordered russian and chinese vaccines so you have vaccine diplomacy in the background working here too. >> that is very interesting. that is a helpful perspective that you could provide. and yet we're told that diplomacy continues. and so secretary of state blinken is meeting with his counterpart, they're still engaging in diplomacy. we just heard the president saying they're working like the devil, i think i'm quotek him to, improve of the security there. we know that prime minister boris johnson who is beg beleaguered in the ux k., but he's supposed to be having a conversation with president putin tomorrow, i believe. and so can there be other people that can talk russia off the ledge with this? will all of this diplomacy around putin help? >> look, diplomacy is good. i think also the delay in a possible russian incursion allows the biden administration talk to partners like qatar for possible oil and gas exports to europe. but i think the only person at this point who could stop putin is xi jinping of china. the two super powers have been working much more closely together and aligning their interests but also aligning their longer term expansionist policies in the case of china, of course taiwan, in the case of russia expanding its footprint there. the other thing that i'm hoping the west could sort out with ukraine, as you know last weekend president zelensky gave that bizarre press conference and had the call with biden where he accused the west of ramping things up too much and causing chaos. i think the ukrainians need to get on the same page with the west very, very quickly. because it also shocked the foreign journalists there. >> what was that. and just -- what your talking about with president zelensky, i said the image that mass media create is that we have troops on the roads an mobilization that is not the case. we don't need this panic. he's blaming the media for being hyperbolic. why is he not only the same page as the biden administration in terms of their rhetoric? >> yeah, well, i guess i have to be careful what i said because when zelensky was aelected i was on cnn with cammera walker saying how great it could be or ukraine. but i think zelensky has surrounded himself with people that are not very bright. the administration is not a war time administration but he does have a foreign minister who is very experienced. so he needed to get his act together very quick lip because this could cause ill will with allies who have given so much weaponry and so much resources, money to ukraine. and president zelensky has shown that he could be played by putin, that only happened a few months into his decision. so people in ukraine, in the ukrainian diaspora are very worried about his capabilities right now. >> always interesting to talk to you. thank you very much for the perspective. >> any time, thank you. they told president biden that the country needs to move away from the pandemic and ask for guidelines to return to a greater state of normalcy. when could we expect? some covid restrictions to be loosened? we'll get into that next. >> there is a lot going on today. here is what else to watch. as a professional bull-rider i'm used to taking chances. but when it comes to my insurance i don't. i use liberty mutual, they customize your car insurance, so 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medical analyst dr. leana wen, the author of life lines, a doctor's journey in a fight for public health. also joining us is infectious disease epidemiologist is cara. welcome back back to you both. jessica, let me start with you. you're not calling for a show to be canceled or even for the episodes with some of the questionable information to be pulled. you asked, as part of this group, for clear and public policy to moderate misinformation on spotify platform. does this satisfy that in. >> unfortunately it doesn't fully satisfy. and i think that the important thing to consider here is that these are plans to initiate these content advisories, we have yet to see them roll out. we have heard anecdotes of several thousand podcast episodes being removed from other violations and we've not seen the list of those episodes or the reasons why they were remove sod we're still in a holding pattern to see what the words mean in action. >> jessica, one more question to you. because i personally was impressed with joe rogan's statement. he said i hear you all, i'm not trying to be controversial, i'm trying to have a compelling conversation. i'm going to redouble my efforts to have credible voices, right after i have kroefl voices, i'm interested in just having these conversations. did that -- isn't that what we want from people who spread misinformation to say, you know, i hear you and i'm going to do sort of adjust my behavior, did that help satisfy your qualms at all? >> i have a very different reaction. i was disappointed because of some problematic language that is the root of this issue and why it became to controversial. this is not a matter of differing opinions. when there is scientistic consensus on things as certain as the spike protein is not cyto toxic, it is not a matter of d debate and because science evolves we should have differing opinions when there are thing in science that are not narrative, that are provable and have the required consensus and get consensus because of evidence and i think when we continue to make this seem like just another topic in politics and that you could have subjective understandings of what is proven to be in the peer reviewed data, that opens up a can of worms. so i unfortunately was not satisfied with his response. >> doctor wen, the response from spotify, they're going to add the advisories. are you satisfied with that? >> i think it is a good thing. i'm glad that spotify is finally taking some action. i do think that referring people to trusted sources like the cdc, to the national institute of health, that would help. i actually have a slightly more nuanced view in terms of joe rogan's response, which is i think that in general it is a good thing as in what should not be controversial and what we should not be debating is the facts themself, to jessica's point, is this real science or not real science, the facts are the facts and data is data. but there are different interpretations of the same data and it is a reasonable conversation for experts to disagree to have that discussion on his show. >> jessica, that is so interesting to hear your point of view and it is definitely eye-opening. i think what you hear you saying is that, yes, he could have compelling conversations but when you start to have compelling conversations, about controversial medical positions, it comes with responsibility. and did he say that. i mean he did say in his statement, look, i don't know how my podcast got so big, i was never expecting this and i don't know what responsibility i was supposed to have. i thought that was a funny bit of transparency, but he does, i think, slowly start to accept, he has a ginormous platform and when you have the conversations casually, it should come with a huge responsibility. >> it does. it is an responsibility to have this amount of followers that are committed to listening to him to the several hours long with various experts. there are some things that are not up for debate. i'm not saying it is a black and white issue on all things related to covid, certainly not, when you talk about things like people's individual treatment plans or people's bodies response to the virus, we're not debating things that have already been proven through rigorous clinical trials in that the vaccines are safe and effective but to poke holes at that is incredibly dangerous and causing further harm to the public. >> doctor wen, let's broaden this conversation. we heard from governors, at least the white house from governors today who are hoping for some relief, getting back to normalcy. listen to a new jersey governor phil murphy here as numbers are coming down. >> we're not going to manage this to zero. we have to learn how to live with this. please, god, there is not another significant wave. every time you think you have this thing figured out it humbles you. >> now as i say, numbers are coming down. new daily case average is just under half a million cases a day. so still very high. how do you balance that? coming off maybe 800,000 down to half a million, should we see some changes in restrictions now? >> look, victor, we cannot be living in a perpetual state of emergency. we have to recognize that we're going to be living with covid for the foreseeable future and so there has to be a plan moving forward about how can we transition back to normal. now i'm not saying that we should throw caution to the wind and just remove all restrictions overnight. because right now there are many parts of the country that still have overwhelmed hospitals. but we do see that we're trending in the right direction and there has to be an off-ramp for many restrictions that people don't want, for example masking. it would be reasonable to have a conversation at this point about when can we remove indoor masking including in schools for example. if kids are vaccinatedor if there is regular testing, could masks go. i think that would be really asonable. and this really 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