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variant to the next. a common denominator. saunders calls it a conserved site, creating antibodies to that is one path to a universal vaccine. >> so typically that's a place where the virus is binding to specific protein on the host cell that it's targeting. if it changes that site, then it's no longer able to infect. >> a big clue came from someone who was infected with sars, all the way back in 2003. >> what is dh 1047? >> the antibody dh-1047 is an antibody that we found from a sars cov 1 infected individual. >> 17 years later in 2020, they found dh-1047 was also protective against covid. protective against a virus that didn't even exist when these antibodies were first made. >> and so we took that antibody as a template to say there must be some site that's common between sars cov 1 and sars-cov-2 and let's figure that out. >> there are a number of covid vaccine strategies in the works. unlike the mrna vaccines we've come to know, at duke they're working on a nano-particle vaccine. >> there's multiple sites that can be recognized by antibodies. >> think of it like a soccer ball with tiny proteins stuck to the surface, even resembling a key site of the virus' spike protein. so far in primates the vaccine appears to work. now a similar vaccine developed by military scientists has already made it into early human trials. but as exciting as this science is, it's going to take time and patience. >> i don't want anyone to think that pan coronavirus vaccines are literally around the cornner a month or two. it's going to take years to develop. >> much of the work being done today on covid is built on the back of similar research on other viruses, influenza, hiv. >> we've been working on an hiv vaccine now for almost 30 years here at duke. hiv is one of the most rapidly evolving life forms on earth. >> that's because hiv mutates much faster, and that's one reason why dr. barton haines thinks developing a universal vaccine for coronaviruses may be easier. >> developing that platform for hiv over the last five years allowed this to happen when the need arose very quickly. >> the most challenging part is that the virus is always changing. how do you predict what's coming in the future so that your vaccine can be effective against it? >> and he's not just talking about coronaviruses that are infecting humans right now, but also novel ones that could still spill over from animals. ones we don't even know about yet. >> that's the type of vaccines we're going to need in order to prevent the next pandemic. >> jake, it's just really fascinating science. i've got to tell you quickly that particular antibody, dh-1047, they found it was protective against sars, also sars-cov-2, but even other bat coronaviruses, so it could be a really wide-ranging vaccine. we don't know how long it will last, but the duke researchers say they think it could last years as well. so you could have a long-standing vaccine that is widely, widely protective, jake. >> amazing. dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much. joining us to discuss, dr. vo vo vivek murthy, surgeon general. how much do you think this could become a reality? >> there's certainly a greater chance of it happening in this day and age than there was five or ten years ago and that's because of the extraordinary advances in science that we've had. the fact that we have, for example, mrna vaccines and vaccinated millions and millions of people in a short period of time, that's a triumph of science. but one thing to keep in mind, jake, as exciting as the science is, not just for a pan coronavirus vaccine but also for combining a potential flu vaccine and a covid vaccine to reduce the number of shots people get, as exciting as these possibilities are, the benefits of science can only be extended to people if they have accurate information about vaccines and other products of science. one of the worries i have is if we're not simultaneously working on trying to root out misinformation and elevate and uplift accurate information and accurate messengers, then i worry a lot of the benefits that may come in the years ahead may not be accessible to people. >> when is a realistic timeline when americans could get one of the universal coronavirus vaccines should they be discovered? >> well, i don't think we're looking at something this calendar year. it probably would take on the order of several years for something like that to be developed and fully studied, tested and then rolled out to the public. >> just a few weeks ago we were seeing rather insane lines of people waiting for hours to get covid tests. since then the biden administration has launched a program to send four free tests to each residence. would you say the testing issues have been resolved or they're just headed that way? >> jake, i think certainly they are getting better and we're getting on the right track here. i think in addition to having, of course, the 20,000 locations where people can get tested, in addition to what you mentioned, which is the test kits that are now being mailed to millions of households around the country, some of them have actually already arrived, there are also -- there is now private insurance coverage that's required for eight tests per person per month. another channel through which people can get tests. we know certainly as cases come down, that may drop a demand for testing but that's not going to make us let up. we'd rather have too many tests than too far tests. the goal is to have a test for anyone who needs it, anyone who wants it readily available at low cost or no cost. >> you have been outspoken about the youth mental health crisis exacerbated by the coronavirus pandemic. so many kids being forced to stay home for so many months, denied the ability to socialize, to learn in person. now, a lot of kids are back in classrooms, which is great, but we do see school districts such as the one in flint, michigan, returning back to virtual learning. how much damage is that causing? and should the federal government be doing more to help these schools stay open safely? sending more tests, sending more vaccines, making it easier for parents to get their kids vaccinated? >> well, jake, this is a really important question that's near and dear to my heart, the mental health of our kids. we like all parents care deeply about the well-being of our kids. one of the factors has been the stability in their lives. school is a big part of that. so getting the vast, vast majority, 96% plus of kids back to school in the fall was a really important step. one of the things that i've been saying for a few weeks now is that during this omicron wave, these are going to be tough weeks and they're going to be emergency decisions that some schools will need to make on pulling back from in-person for a short period of time if they don't have the staffing, for example, to keep the classrooms open. our goal should be to make sure these are as short as possible and we're doing a lot to support schools. in addition to providing a lot of the funding for testing, billions of dollars in fact for testing for masks and for other precautions like improving ventilation, we are also offering a lot of technical assistance. we've doubled the number of tests that are available to schools right now. so we want to do everything we can to support schools but we also recognize, again, this wave is tough. some schools have had to make some tough, temporary measures and decisions around pulling back. we just hope that that will be as short-lived as possible. getting our kids back in school is extraordinarily important right now for their learning but also for their mental health. >> your administration also sent millions of n-95 masks, the higher quality masks, to pharmacies and health centers across the country to be given out to americans for free. if it is so important for us to be wearing these high-quality masks, if cloth masks provide some protection but honestly very little comparatively, why doesn't the administration, why don't you come out and say to americans, cloth masks don't work as effectively, stop wearing them. wear n-95 and comparable masks only? >> actually, jake, i have said this. and i've said it on social media, i've said it on tv. let me say it again here. especially given how transmissable omicron is, wearing a high-quality mask is very important, especially if you're at higher risk yourself of medical conditions that put you at higher risk of bad outcomes. or if you're indoors with people not wearing masks. high-quality masks are n-95s, kn-95s, kf-94 masks. we know cloth masks, if well fitted offer some protection as well but the high-quality masks are really the ones that are most important at this moment in time. it's one of the reasons why the administration is sending 400 million masks out. n-95 masks out to community health centers and pharmacies around the country. some of those have arrived already. we're starting to hear that from stores that have received them and they're going to start distributing them to the public. this is part of the many layers of caution that we need to protect ourselves not just omicron but potential waves that may come in the future. >> the former cdc director, dr. tom frieden, said he thinks the omicron flood will fade in a few weeks and he is more optimistic now about putting this behind us as he's been at any time in this pandemic. do you share his optimism that we're turning the corner? >> well, i certainly share the optimism that we're in a better place now and will be in a better place in a few weeks, but i don't think that means we should take our foot off the accelerator. one of the things we've learned in the last two years, jake, we can't underestimate this virus. it's thrown curveballs at us in the past, and we've got to be prepared for whatever comes, whether that's another variant or something that's worse. but what gives me optimism and hope is we not only have abundantly available vaccines and not only see they're working well to protect people against hospitalization and death, but we have more oral and intravenous medicines now than any point during the pandemic. we need to increase our supply of that. each month that follows we'll have more and more of that. these together along with a targeted use of tests and masks s , this is what is going to help us get through further waves as well. >> good to see you again. coming up, a look at the confirmation battle the biden supreme court pick will likely face. we'll talk about that with a member of the senate committee that will hold the confirmation hearings. and then breaking news. president biden tells ukraine to prepare for impact. new details from his phone call with ukraine's president volodymyr zelensky. stay with us. why have over two million people welcomed bath fitter into their homes? 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>> nothing about meeting with the president, jake, but i deeply respect their willingness to reach out to us and seek our views. i know they're seeking views from a variety of jurists and experts and litigators. but, you know, i'd be remiss, jake, if i failed to acknowledge, i think it's important that we really appreciate justice breyer's extraordinary service to our nation. you know, he was a thinker and a scholar on the court, still is. but one who knew how to fashion realistic solutions in a deeply divided court to try to bring the court together. and he also understood the real world consequences of seemingly very abstract decisions. and i'm hoping that president biden will be consulting real people, so to speak. i believe that he'll be listening to them as well. and that's why he's going to take some time. but i think it's well warranted. >> yeah, the chief justice of the united states, john roberts, released a statement praising breyer's optimism and profound love of country and said he was a reliable antidote to dead air time at our lunches and talked about how much he enjoyed his company. but those three jurists, the women, would be justices that i mentioned earlier, an informed source tells me that they are, kruger, jackson and childs, are the top possibilities, although there are others being considered as well. house majority whip jim clyburn has been very open about who he hopes the president chooses. take a listen. >> i want us to be thorough with this process. i want us to make sure that it is a black woman. i want to make sure that it's a woman that will get universal support. when i say universal, i mean bipartisan support. and i know that michelle childs will have support of several republicans, including the two republican senators from south carolina. >> that would be tim scott and lindsey graham. there are lots of reasons to pick a supreme court justice but do you agree with majority whip clyburn that judge j. michelle childs has the best chance of getting bipartisan support in the senate? >> i think there are a variety of names, some of them mentioned and some not, that have the potential for getting bipartisan support. i look forward to a black woman as nominee making history in exactly the right way that we need it now, and having a compelling life story and immensely impressive credentials that will garner bipartisan support. i will say i'm prepared to fight, if necessary, and use all the options we have. but we should hope and work for bipartisan support. >> your boss, senate majority leader chuck schumer, says he wants to follow a similar accelerated timeline that republicans used for justice amy coney barrett in 2020. she was confirmed, of course, one month after being nominated. was this timeline discussed this afternoon at the meeting that you had with your fellow senator judiciary committee democrats? how do you expect the process to play out? >> the meeting we had today was important, but it was only the beginning and it's the routine kind of meeting that we have at the beginning of major hearings and nominations. we're comparing notes, we're preparing. i would say we all believe that it ought to be done as quickly as possible, expeditiously and swiftly, but fairly. we're going to be prepared to fight ferociously if necessary and hope that republicans will respect the country's wish that we have a supreme court justice as soon as possible. you know, i've argued cases in the supreme court, four of them, and a few before justice breyer. i was a law clerk on the supreme court. i really hope that we can put the court above politics, because the court's credibility has never been more threatened and its authority and independence has never been more at risk. >> well, you said that you wanted the nomination to proceed as quickly as possible as well as fairly. i mean we know that mcconnell did it in a month from nomination to confirmation. so are you talking about a month from nomination to confirmation, or do you have a different deadline in mind? for example, justice breyer wants to stay until the end of the term, which is usually end of june. >> i think we need had to it quickly, as quickly as possible, swiftly, expeditiously. i don't have a magic number of days. there isn't any in the senate rules or in statutes or the constitution. we'll have very strong vetting for whoever it is, and then hearings that will last a number of days, a committee vote. we're going to follow the normal procedures, but it will be done expeditiously, and i think that's what the country wants. i am very hopeful that the battle, and you referred to it as a battle in the opening, will be really out of the kind of three battles that we've had, partisan battles and that we'll have bipartisan support. >> senator richard blumenthal, democratic senator from connecticut, thank you very much. president biden and ukraine's president just wrapped up a key phone call. one side said it did not go well. the other side has a different take. that's next. we'll look at what you've saved, what you'll need, and build a straightforward plan to generate income, even when you're not working. a plan that gives you the chance to grow your savings and create cash flow that lasts. along the way, we'll give you ways to be tax efficient. and you can start, stop or adjust your plan at any time without the unnecessary fees. we'll help you go from saving... to living. ♪ play all day ♪ we have breaking news for you in our world lead. a senior ukrainian official tells cnn that today's phone call between president biden and ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky did not go well. the two disagreed about the immediacy of the threat of a russian attack on ukraine. the white house and pentagon have been emphatic they believe an attack could be imminent. the white house just released its own readout of that call and there was no mention of president biden's warnings or the two presidents disagreements. the white house did say biden underscored america's commitment to ukraine's sovereignty. cnn's matthew chance joins us live from kyiv, ukraine. matthew, what more are you learning about this disagreement on the biden/zelensky call? how heated did it get? >> reporter: i'm not sure i could characterize how heated it got but there was definitely a disagreement about the level of risk that the country is facing when it comes to a russian invasion. on the one hand you've got president biden, according to an official who briefed me on the conversation that was had on the telephone call this evening. on the one hand president biden saying the threat is imminent. we've heard this before. ukrainians pushing back on that, saying that the threat according to their intelligence analysts is a bit more ambiguous than that. it's possible there won't be an invasion, whereas president biden apparently telling his ukrainian counterpart that an invasion was virtually certain. later on in february when the ground becomes more frozen in this country. he went on to say that he warned the ukrainian leader that the capital, kyiv, this city here, could be sacked. that's the word he apparently used according to this ukrainian official, sacked by russian forces, who he said may attempt to occupy it. there's also some bad news delivered, although expected news delivered by the u.s. president to the ukrainian side. president biden according to this official who briefed me on the conversation saying that he told the ukrainian leader that ukraine would not be getting significantly more military help, that there would be no u.s. troops sent to ukraine to defend it. we already knew that, of course, but it was reiterated again on this phone call. and also no sophisticated weapons, further sophisticated weapons delivered to ukraine from the united states. there would be no progress on nato and there would be no sanctions goesed on russia preemptively. that would only happen once russia invades. let me just get this line out, quite impactful if you forgive me. president biden telling his counterpart that ukraine should prepare for impact. so quite a stark warning there from the u.s. leader. >> matthew chance reporting live for us in kyiv, ukraine, thank you so much. joining us now is republican congressman mike turner of ohio. he's the new ranking republican on the house intelligence committee. he also serves on the house armed services committee. congressman, thank you for your new post. >> thank you, jake. >> i want to start with our report we just heard that the biden/zelensky call did not go well. ukraine will not be getting significantly more military aid than it's already received and this real disagreement between biden telling zelensky prepare for impact and zelensky insisting that an attack from russia is not imminent. is zelensky wrong? is biden wrong? what do you think? >> well, let's hope president zelensky is correct. certainly everything that we have seen and what has certainly been publicly reported indicates that russia is amassing huge and significant troop numbers, including weapons capability that would give them the ability to invade and to take ukraine. one thing the administration has done correctly is they have made clear that there would be swift and very strong sanctions on putin and upon russia for doing so. the other aspect of this is that the administration has been clear that they're not going to bargain away the sovereignty of ukraine as russia has made demands that were unreasonable. the administration stood up to those and said that they are not going to make statements that would diminish ukraine as a country if russia invades it. they will be facing, i think, a united nato allied front. >> so this senior ukrainian official told cnn's matthew chance that president biden warned zelensky that kyiv itself could be sacked, that the ukrainians need to prepare for impact. the ukrainians obviously want the public in ukraine to stay calm and not panic. that's interesting that biden is saying that kyiv could be sacked, his word, sacked, because some of the -- some of the predictions or some of the people talking about what russia might do have been talking about how putin might take some of ukraine, the donbas region, but not a full-fledged invasion and toppling kyiv. do you think that's actually on the the table, the sacking of kyiv? >> well, if you look at where russia has positioned their troops and the number of troops, that certainly is preparation for a whole scale invasion of ukraine. the problem obviously is, is that we have to find ways in which we deter russia. russia is incorrectly stating that nato is a threat. there's no threat from the defense alliance. this is totally a trumped-up allegation coming from russia as a pretext for invasion. certainly it would be -- if president zelensky is right and russia backs down again, that would be great. they have amassed troops on the border before and left. we have never seen anything of this level and this level of preparedness, so it would be incredibly unlikely to see no conflict. >> so you and many of your republican colleagues have called on the biden administration to be tougher on russia, to give ukraine everything it needs to keep russia out. some people calling for sanctions to be imposed on russia and putin now, even before an invasion. there is also a wing of the republican party that's growing louder in recent years and recent weeks that seems to be actually vocally siding with russia. you pushed back against this argument back in november when you were on fox. let's just play some of that to remind our viewers. >> who's got the energy reserves? who's the major player in world affairs? who's the potential counterbalance against china, which is the actual threat? why would we take ukraine's side? why wouldn't we have russia's side? i'm totally confused. >> ukraine is a democracy. russia is an authoritarian regime seeking to impose its will against a validly elected democracy in ukraine. we're on the side of democracy. >> a few tweets from your colleagues here, congressman thomas massey, quote, the united states should not be involved in any future war in ukraine. congressman paul gosar, we have no dog in the ukraine fight. what's your response to people out there who say, you know, why are we siding with ukraine against russia? russia is the powerhouse and we need to be allied with russia. we have no business defending ukraine in any way? >> well, russia is amassing tanks on the border. you've heard me say before, they're not showing up with ballot boxes and asking ukrainians where they want to go. we are for democracies. we are for the self-determination of peoples. authoritarian regimes when they topple democracies have not been satisfied with one as we've seen in history. there's been a lot of disappointment that the administration has not worked more diligently to get advanced weaponry and stronger weapons into ukraine that can either act as deterrence and raise the costs to russia if they invade ukraine. but this debate about who should we be for is very, very disappointing. if you look at our foreign policy and our basic values as a democracy, it's fairly easy to understand that we don't support authoritarian regimes, we don't support people using tanks to change boundaries and we support democracies and ukraine is a well-known ally with the united states. in addition to russia had already entered into a memorandum guaranteeing the sovereignty and integrity of ukraine with the united states in budapest when ukraine gave up nuclear weapons after the fall of the soviet union. that was the moral basis on which to say russia is violating that. we're not for people violating treaties. >> where do you think this line of thinking comes from? is it a remnant of the trump administration? is it a growing influence of an isolationist or libertarian movement? why are so many people in your party sounding so unlike you? is it a remnant of fatigue from the wars in afghanistan and iraq? >> well, it's certainly not coming from the remnants of the trump administration. as you recall, the obama administration had not sent lethal weapons into ukraine. president then poroshenko imploring that we sent lethal weapons. this administration just sent javelins again. so there's some commonality between the trump administration and biden administration with respect to making sure there are weapons to at least defend ukraine. but i do think this is a troubling debate that we're having. if we can't stand -- people look to the united states and look to lady liberty for the understanding that we stand for democracy. we're the light of freedom and liberty and when we cease to be for that, then our own values are at risk. >> congressman mike turner from ohio, thank you so much. good to see you again, sir. coming up, gruesome new details about the violence one police officer went through on january 6th before he took his own life. stay with us. miss cupc never st ood a chance. until, energizer ultimate lithium. who wants a cupcake? 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>> well, i don't know the answer to this, jake. that's -- we're a legislative committee. that's a department of justice matter. whether they are still making cases, whether -- i don't know the answer. but obviously when you see the video, the vicious attacks on our officers, it's -- there needs to be full accountability in the criminal justice system. meanwhile, the committee is working to uncover all the details not only of the day but of the events leading up to the day. we're making good progress. >> so your committee scored a win in your subpoena for emails from john eastman, that's the conservative lawyer who worked for trump and detailed in an insane memo a wild plan for then vice president pence to throw out biden electors on january 6. your committee was granted access to the emails. what do you hope to learn? >> well, obviously he played a key role in this whole plot to overturn the election. so we want to know what he did. he said he was working at all times for former president trump. we'd like to know more about that. you know, i just read the decision from the court, and basically, you know, he lost on every point. i mean the judge said he failed to even make a prima facie case for some of his allegations. so the judge is ordering the parties to move quickly through this through the weekend so that we can get this information as quickly as possible. we think it's important. >> we're showing video right now of eastman speaking at the january 6 "stop the steal" rally. there's so much of this that just played out in front of all of our eyes. >> right. >> trump citing eastman's argument. trump saying that pence needed to overturn the election. trump saying to the crowd let's go to the capitol, we need to fight, et cetera, et cetera. what more are you hoping to find? are you hoping to find a money trail that shows trump okaying some sort of operation in which people start getting bussed in? it seems like there's so much obvious criminality that we all saw happen. >> well, a lot of this was done in public. i think there's a set of people that think if it's in public maybe it wasn't wrong. we want to find the behind-the-scenes elements and see who was involved in the plot, what were the intentions. i mean this was -- clearly we know already -- not just some random event where people showed up randomly on the 6th of january. there were people who plotted it. we've had interviews with proud boys. we've had interviews with many others in the trump administration, and we need to get the full story. not only to lay out the picture, but also to inform ourselves for the legislative recommendations we're going to make. that would include not only reform to the electoral count act but potentially the insurrection act, which the former president repeatedly throughout the election year threatened to invoke without cause and the like. so we are moving quickly and i think we're more than halfway through, for sure. >> democratic congresswoman zoe lofgren from california, thank you so much. good to see you again. talk about tables being turned, porn star stormy daniels taking the stand to testify against her own former attorney, michael avenatti. stay with us. imate an d genuin e- can be transformational. daddy! for the best audio entertainment and storytelling. audible. - family. - family. - family. - family is everything. - [girl 1] family is with us through all of life's great moments. - bye, bye! - [girl 2] family is who we count on, inner greatest time of need because they're always by your side when we need them the most. - and for the past 100 years, shriners hospitals for children has become family to over 1.5 million kids. - [girl 2] in tough times, and good times... - good girl! - [girl 2] they are there when we need the most. - but it's only possible because of people like you. - people who give every month. - because of that, you're our family too. - you're there when we need you most. - but if you haven't joined the shriner's hospital family yet, now is your chance. - [girl 3] all you have to do, is call the number on your screen or go online to loveshriners.org right now, with your monthly gift. and you'll help thousands of kids just like us, get the care and support we need every day. - when you call or go online today with your monthly gift of just $19, just 63 cents a day, we'll send you this adorable "love to the rescue" blanket as our gift to you. it'll be a reminder of how you're standing by our side, just like family. - thank you. - thank you for being a part of our family. - thank you for being a part of my family. - your monthly gift today, can change my life forever. - [girl 3] you can join the thousands of caring family members who give each month by calling this special number on your screen right now. - it's so good to know that we have a family like you, who cares enough to stand by our side. - thank you. - thank you. - thank you. - [girl 3] please, call or go online right now to loveshriners.org with your monthly gift. - [boy 1] you'll make a difference in our lives, every day. rather stunning exchange is it is playing out in manhattan. attorney michael avenatti has started the cross-examination of his former client stephanie clifford who you might know by her stage name stormy daniels. the director paid -- that she was paid hush money to said that she was paid hush money to not reveal that she had sex with donald trump. shortly after melania gave birth to barron trump. she claimed that he cheated her out of $300,000 from a book deal. he spent much of it on everything from hotels and plane tickets to leasing a ferrari. c kara scannell was present. the court adjourned for the day. how much did he cover in that time? >> reporter: well, jake, it was a brief and cordial exchange. though we don't know what to ant is pi -- anticipate tomorrow. he got at the heart of the issue. the prosecutors say that he had stolen money from stormy daniels. he brought up the contract that they signed which he was entitled he said to $100 payment and could deduct expenses from any money they raised online. there is a line that said he could receive money from any book deal. a reasonable percentage. if it is agreed on by both sides. now daniels testified there was no agreement for her to pay any money to avenatti. she also said that he told her that he would not take a penny from her and called her an american hero. so he asked her if she had any text messages or recordings in which he would not take any money. she said she didn't. then he shifted and went to attack her credibility. he asked her about some claims she has made that she could talk to the dead and that she has conversations with a haunted doll named susan. now daniels said yes this is something that -- this doll is a character on a paranormal show she's involved with, a ghost hunt he show called spooky babes and talks to everyone. and after that the court session was over. avenatti told the judge he will cross-examine her for six hours. he could cut him off at any time and he said sometimes less is more on cross-examination. jake. >> did you say spooky babes? >> reporter: yes,dy. and she has an instagram page according to stormy daniels. >> okay, interesting information. so avenatti was her attorney, how, in her view, did he steal her money in what was the way he did it? >> reporter: so the prosecution over their three hours of direct testimony had her walk through the whole relationship, how they met at the waldorf astoria in beverly hills and then she strikes the book deal and she entitled to her advance over the four installments and then she sent wiring instructions to pass on to the bub lisher and and she never got the second or third advance. she was emailing avenatti on whatsapp for five months asking have you spoken to the publisher. where is my money. and the prosecutors have already showed the jury was that avenatti had set up an account in her name that he controlled and told the publisher and the book agent to wire the money to that account. stormy daniels found out the truth when she finally got in push with the publisher. that is when he cut off avenatti. and she felt de trayed and violations. >> appreciate it. scientists say this space object is unlike anything they've seen before. the clues to what it might be. that is next. it was a tragedy. with knockoff batteries, little miss cupcake never stood a chance. until, energizer ultimate lithium. who wants a cupcake? 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variant to the next. a common denominator. saunders calls it a conserved site, creating antibodies to that is one path to a universal vaccine. >> so typically that's a place where the virus is binding to specific protein on the host cell that it's targeting. if it changes that site, then it's no longer able to infect. >> a big clue came from someone who was infected with sars, all the way back in 2003. >> what is dh 1047? >> the antibody dh-1047 is an antibody that we found from a sars cov 1 infected individual. >> 17 years later in 2020, they found dh-1047 was also protective against covid. protective against a virus that didn't even exist when these antibodies were first made. >> and so we took that antibody as a template to say there must be some site that's common between sars cov 1 and sars-cov-2 and let's figure that out. >> there are a number of covid vaccine strategies in the works. unlike the mrna vaccines we've come to know, at duke they're working on a nano-particle vaccine. >> there's multiple sites that can be recognized by antibodies. >> think of it like a soccer ball with tiny proteins stuck to the surface, even resembling a key site of the virus' spike protein. so far in primates the vaccine appears to work. now a similar vaccine developed by military scientists has already made it into early human trials. but as exciting as this science is, it's going to take time and patience. >> i don't want anyone to think that pan coronavirus vaccines are literally around the cornner a month or two. it's going to take years to develop. >> much of the work being done today on covid is built on the back of similar research on other viruses, influenza, hiv. >> we've been working on an hiv vaccine now for almost 30 years here at duke. hiv is one of the most rapidly evolving life forms on earth. >> that's because hiv mutates much faster, and that's one reason why dr. barton haines thinks developing a universal vaccine for coronaviruses may be easier. >> developing that platform for hiv over the last five years allowed this to happen when the need arose very quickly. >> the most challenging part is that the virus is always changing. how do you predict what's coming in the future so that your vaccine can be effective against it? >> and he's not just talking about coronaviruses that are infecting humans right now, but also novel ones that could still spill over from animals. ones we don't even know about yet. >> that's the type of vaccines we're going to need in order to prevent the next pandemic. >> jake, it's just really fascinating science. i've got to tell you quickly that particular antibody, dh-1047, they found it was protective against sars, also sars-cov-2, but even other bat coronaviruses, so it could be a really wide-ranging vaccine. we don't know how long it will last, but the duke researchers say they think it could last years as well. so you could have a long-standing vaccine that is widely, widely protective, jake. >> amazing. dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much. joining us to discuss, dr. vo vo vivek murthy, surgeon general. how much do you think this could become a reality? >> there's certainly a greater chance of it happening in this day and age than there was five or ten years ago and that's because of the extraordinary advances in science that we've had. the fact that we have, for example, mrna vaccines and vaccinated millions and millions of people in a short period of time, that's a triumph of science. but one thing to keep in mind, jake, as exciting as the science is, not just for a pan coronavirus vaccine but also for combining a potential flu vaccine and a covid vaccine to reduce the number of shots people get, as exciting as these possibilities are, the benefits of science can only be extended to people if they have accurate information about vaccines and other products of science. one of the worries i have is if we're not simultaneously working on trying to root out misinformation and elevate and uplift accurate information and accurate messengers, then i worry a lot of the benefits that may come in the years ahead may not be accessible to people. >> when is a realistic timeline when americans could get one of the universal coronavirus vaccines should they be discovered? >> well, i don't think we're looking at something this calendar year. it probably would take on the order of several years for something like that to be developed and fully studied, tested and then rolled out to the public. >> just a few weeks ago we were seeing rather insane lines of people waiting for hours to get covid tests. since then the biden administration has launched a program to send four free tests to each residence. would you say the testing issues have been resolved or they're just headed that way? >> jake, i think certainly they are getting better and we're getting on the right track here. i think in addition to having, of course, the 20,000 locations where people can get tested, in addition to what you mentioned, which is the test kits that are now being mailed to millions of households around the country, some of them have actually already arrived, there are also -- there is now private insurance coverage that's required for eight tests per person per month. another channel through which people can get tests. we know certainly as cases come down, that may drop a demand for testing but that's not going to make us let up. we'd rather have too many tests than too far tests. the goal is to have a test for anyone who needs it, anyone who wants it readily available at low cost or no cost. >> you have been outspoken about the youth mental health crisis exacerbated by the coronavirus pandemic. so many kids being forced to stay home for so many months, denied the ability to socialize, to learn in person. now, a lot of kids are back in classrooms, which is great, but we do see school districts such as the one in flint, michigan, returning back to virtual learning. how much damage is that causing? and should the federal government be doing more to help these schools stay open safely? sending more tests, sending more vaccines, making it easier for parents to get their kids vaccinated? >> well, jake, this is a really important question that's near and dear to my heart, the mental health of our kids. we like all parents care deeply about the well-being of our kids. one of the factors has been the stability in their lives. school is a big part of that. so getting the vast, vast majority, 96% plus of kids back to school in the fall was a really important step. one of the things that i've been saying for a few weeks now is that during this omicron wave, these are going to be tough weeks and they're going to be emergency decisions that some schools will need to make on pulling back from in-person for a short period of time if they don't have the staffing, for example, to keep the classrooms open. our goal should be to make sure these are as short as possible and we're doing a lot to support schools. in addition to providing a lot of the funding for testing, billions of dollars in fact for testing for masks and for other precautions like improving ventilation, we are also offering a lot of technical assistance. we've doubled the number of tests that are available to schools right now. so we want to do everything we can to support schools but we also recognize, again, this wave is tough. some schools have had to make some tough, temporary measures and decisions around pulling back. we just hope that that will be as short-lived as possible. getting our kids back in school is extraordinarily important right now for their learning but also for their mental health. >> your administration also sent millions of n-95 masks, the higher quality masks, to pharmacies and health centers across the country to be given out to americans for free. if it is so important for us to be wearing these high-quality masks, if cloth masks provide some protection but honestly very little comparatively, why doesn't the administration, why don't you come out and say to americans, cloth masks don't work as effectively, stop wearing them. wear n-95 and comparable masks only? >> actually, jake, i have said this. and i've said it on social media, i've said it on tv. let me say it again here. especially given how transmissable omicron is, wearing a high-quality mask is very important, especially if you're at higher risk yourself of medical conditions that put you at higher risk of bad outcomes. or if you're indoors with people not wearing masks. high-quality masks are n-95s, kn-95s, kf-94 masks. we know cloth masks, if well fitted offer some protection as well but the high-quality masks are really the ones that are most important at this moment in time. it's one of the reasons why the administration is sending 400 million masks out. n-95 masks out to community health centers and pharmacies around the country. some of those have arrived already. we're starting to hear that from stores that have received them and they're going to start distributing them to the public. this is part of the many layers of caution that we need to protect ourselves not just omicron but potential waves that may come in the future. >> the former cdc director, dr. tom frieden, said he thinks the omicron flood will fade in a few weeks and he is more optimistic now about putting this behind us as he's been at any time in this pandemic. do you share his optimism that we're turning the corner? >> well, i certainly share the optimism that we're in a better place now and will be in a better place in a few weeks, but i don't think that means we should take our foot off the accelerator. one of the things we've learned in the last two years, jake, we can't underestimate this virus. it's thrown curveballs at us in the past, and we've got to be prepared for whatever comes, whether that's another variant or something that's worse. but what gives me optimism and hope is we not only have abundantly available vaccines and not only see they're working well to protect people against hospitalization and death, but we have more oral and intravenous medicines now than any point during the pandemic. we need to increase our supply of that. each month that follows we'll have more and more of that. these together along with a targeted use of tests and masks s , this is what is going to help us get through further waves as well. >> good to see you again. coming up, a look at the confirmation battle the biden supreme court pick will likely face. we'll talk about that with a member of the senate committee that will hold the confirmation hearings. and then breaking news. president biden tells ukraine to prepare for impact. new details from his phone call with ukraine's president volodymyr zelensky. stay with us. why have over two million people welcomed bath fitter into their homes? 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>> nothing about meeting with the president, jake, but i deeply respect their willingness to reach out to us and seek our views. i know they're seeking views from a variety of jurists and experts and litigators. but, you know, i'd be remiss, jake, if i failed to acknowledge, i think it's important that we really appreciate justice breyer's extraordinary service to our nation. you know, he was a thinker and a scholar on the court, still is. but one who knew how to fashion realistic solutions in a deeply divided court to try to bring the court together. and he also understood the real world consequences of seemingly very abstract decisions. and i'm hoping that president biden will be consulting real people, so to speak. i believe that he'll be listening to them as well. and that's why he's going to take some time. but i think it's well warranted. >> yeah, the chief justice of the united states, john roberts, released a statement praising breyer's optimism and profound love of country and said he was a reliable antidote to dead air time at our lunches and talked about how much he enjoyed his company. but those three jurists, the women, would be justices that i mentioned earlier, an informed source tells me that they are, kruger, jackson and childs, are the top possibilities, although there are others being considered as well. house majority whip jim clyburn has been very open about who he hopes the president chooses. take a listen. >> i want us to be thorough with this process. i want us to make sure that it is a black woman. i want to make sure that it's a woman that will get universal support. when i say universal, i mean bipartisan support. and i know that michelle childs will have support of several republicans, including the two republican senators from south carolina. >> that would be tim scott and lindsey graham. there are lots of reasons to pick a supreme court justice but do you agree with majority whip clyburn that judge j. michelle childs has the best chance of getting bipartisan support in the senate? >> i think there are a variety of names, some of them mentioned and some not, that have the potential for getting bipartisan support. i look forward to a black woman as nominee making history in exactly the right way that we need it now, and having a compelling life story and immensely impressive credentials that will garner bipartisan support. i will say i'm prepared to fight, if necessary, and use all the options we have. but we should hope and work for bipartisan support. >> your boss, senate majority leader chuck schumer, says he wants to follow a similar accelerated timeline that republicans used for justice amy coney barrett in 2020. she was confirmed, of course, one month after being nominated. was this timeline discussed this afternoon at the meeting that you had with your fellow senator judiciary committee democrats? how do you expect the process to play out? >> the meeting we had today was important, but it was only the beginning and it's the routine kind of meeting that we have at the beginning of major hearings and nominations. we're comparing notes, we're preparing. i would say we all believe that it ought to be done as quickly as possible, expeditiously and swiftly, but fairly. we're going to be prepared to fight ferociously if necessary and hope that republicans will respect the country's wish that we have a supreme court justice as soon as possible. you know, i've argued cases in the supreme court, four of them, and a few before justice breyer. i was a law clerk on the supreme court. i really hope that we can put the court above politics, because the court's credibility has never been more threatened and its authority and independence has never been more at risk. >> well, you said that you wanted the nomination to proceed as quickly as possible as well as fairly. i mean we know that mcconnell did it in a month from nomination to confirmation. so are you talking about a month from nomination to confirmation, or do you have a different deadline in mind? for example, justice breyer wants to stay until the end of the term, which is usually end of june. >> i think we need had to it quickly, as quickly as possible, swiftly, expeditiously. i don't have a magic number of days. there isn't any in the senate rules or in statutes or the constitution. we'll have very strong vetting for whoever it is, and then hearings that will last a number of days, a committee vote. we're going to follow the normal procedures, but it will be done expeditiously, and i think that's what the country wants. i am very hopeful that the battle, and you referred to it as a battle in the opening, will be really out of the kind of three battles that we've had, partisan battles and that we'll have bipartisan support. >> senator richard blumenthal, democratic senator from connecticut, thank you very much. president biden and ukraine's president just wrapped up a key phone call. one side said it did not go well. the other side has a different take. that's next. we'll look at what you've saved, what you'll need, and build a straightforward plan to generate income, even when you're not working. a plan that gives you the chance to grow your savings and create cash flow that lasts. along the way, we'll give you ways to be tax efficient. and you can start, stop or adjust your plan at any time without the unnecessary fees. we'll help you go from saving... to living. ♪ play all day ♪ we have breaking news for you in our world lead. a senior ukrainian official tells cnn that today's phone call between president biden and ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky did not go well. the two disagreed about the immediacy of the threat of a russian attack on ukraine. the white house and pentagon have been emphatic they believe an attack could be imminent. the white house just released its own readout of that call and there was no mention of president biden's warnings or the two presidents disagreements. the white house did say biden underscored america's commitment to ukraine's sovereignty. cnn's matthew chance joins us live from kyiv, ukraine. matthew, what more are you learning about this disagreement on the biden/zelensky call? how heated did it get? >> reporter: i'm not sure i could characterize how heated it got but there was definitely a disagreement about the level of risk that the country is facing when it comes to a russian invasion. on the one hand you've got president biden, according to an official who briefed me on the conversation that was had on the telephone call this evening. on the one hand president biden saying the threat is imminent. we've heard this before. ukrainians pushing back on that, saying that the threat according to their intelligence analysts is a bit more ambiguous than that. it's possible there won't be an invasion, whereas president biden apparently telling his ukrainian counterpart that an invasion was virtually certain. later on in february when the ground becomes more frozen in this country. he went on to say that he warned the ukrainian leader that the capital, kyiv, this city here, could be sacked. that's the word he apparently used according to this ukrainian official, sacked by russian forces, who he said may attempt to occupy it. there's also some bad news delivered, although expected news delivered by the u.s. president to the ukrainian side. president biden according to this official who briefed me on the conversation saying that he told the ukrainian leader that ukraine would not be getting significantly more military help, that there would be no u.s. troops sent to ukraine to defend it. we already knew that, of course, but it was reiterated again on this phone call. and also no sophisticated weapons, further sophisticated weapons delivered to ukraine from the united states. there would be no progress on nato and there would be no sanctions goesed on russia preemptively. that would only happen once russia invades. let me just get this line out, quite impactful if you forgive me. president biden telling his counterpart that ukraine should prepare for impact. so quite a stark warning there from the u.s. leader. >> matthew chance reporting live for us in kyiv, ukraine, thank you so much. joining us now is republican congressman mike turner of ohio. he's the new ranking republican on the house intelligence committee. he also serves on the house armed services committee. congressman, thank you for your new post. >> thank you, jake. >> i want to start with our report we just heard that the biden/zelensky call did not go well. ukraine will not be getting significantly more military aid than it's already received and this real disagreement between biden telling zelensky prepare for impact and zelensky insisting that an attack from russia is not imminent. is zelensky wrong? is biden wrong? what do you think? >> well, let's hope president zelensky is correct. certainly everything that we have seen and what has certainly been publicly reported indicates that russia is amassing huge and significant troop numbers, including weapons capability that would give them the ability to invade and to take ukraine. one thing the administration has done correctly is they have made clear that there would be swift and very strong sanctions on putin and upon russia for doing so. the other aspect of this is that the administration has been clear that they're not going to bargain away the sovereignty of ukraine as russia has made demands that were unreasonable. the administration stood up to those and said that they are not going to make statements that would diminish ukraine as a country if russia invades it. they will be facing, i think, a united nato allied front. >> so this senior ukrainian official told cnn's matthew chance that president biden warned zelensky that kyiv itself could be sacked, that the ukrainians need to prepare for impact. the ukrainians obviously want the public in ukraine to stay calm and not panic. that's interesting that biden is saying that kyiv could be sacked, his word, sacked, because some of the -- some of the predictions or some of the people talking about what russia might do have been talking about how putin might take some of ukraine, the donbas region, but not a full-fledged invasion and toppling kyiv. do you think that's actually on the the table, the sacking of kyiv? >> well, if you look at where russia has positioned their troops and the number of troops, that certainly is preparation for a whole scale invasion of ukraine. the problem obviously is, is that we have to find ways in which we deter russia. russia is incorrectly stating that nato is a threat. there's no threat from the defense alliance. this is totally a trumped-up allegation coming from russia as a pretext for invasion. certainly it would be -- if president zelensky is right and russia backs down again, that would be great. they have amassed troops on the border before and left. we have never seen anything of this level and this level of preparedness, so it would be incredibly unlikely to see no conflict. >> so you and many of your republican colleagues have called on the biden administration to be tougher on russia, to give ukraine everything it needs to keep russia out. some people calling for sanctions to be imposed on russia and putin now, even before an invasion. there is also a wing of the republican party that's growing louder in recent years and recent weeks that seems to be actually vocally siding with russia. you pushed back against this argument back in november when you were on fox. let's just play some of that to remind our viewers. >> who's got the energy reserves? who's the major player in world affairs? who's the potential counterbalance against china, which is the actual threat? why would we take ukraine's side? why wouldn't we have russia's side? i'm totally confused. >> ukraine is a democracy. russia is an authoritarian regime seeking to impose its will against a validly elected democracy in ukraine. we're on the side of democracy. >> a few tweets from your colleagues here, congressman thomas massey, quote, the united states should not be involved in any future war in ukraine. congressman paul gosar, we have no dog in the ukraine fight. what's your response to people out there who say, you know, why are we siding with ukraine against russia? russia is the powerhouse and we need to be allied with russia. we have no business defending ukraine in any way? >> well, russia is amassing tanks on the border. you've heard me say before, they're not showing up with ballot boxes and asking ukrainians where they want to go. we are for democracies. we are for the self-determination of peoples. authoritarian regimes when they topple democracies have not been satisfied with one as we've seen in history. there's been a lot of disappointment that the administration has not worked more diligently to get advanced weaponry and stronger weapons into ukraine that can either act as deterrence and raise the costs to russia if they invade ukraine. but this debate about who should we be for is very, very disappointing. if you look at our foreign policy and our basic values as a democracy, it's fairly easy to understand that we don't support authoritarian regimes, we don't support people using tanks to change boundaries and we support democracies and ukraine is a well-known ally with the united states. in addition to russia had already entered into a memorandum guaranteeing the sovereignty and integrity of ukraine with the united states in budapest when ukraine gave up nuclear weapons after the fall of the soviet union. that was the moral basis on which to say russia is violating that. we're not for people violating treaties. >> where do you think this line of thinking comes from? is it a remnant of the trump administration? is it a growing influence of an isolationist or libertarian movement? why are so many people in your party sounding so unlike you? is it a remnant of fatigue from the wars in afghanistan and iraq? >> well, it's certainly not coming from the remnants of the trump administration. as you recall, the obama administration had not sent lethal weapons into ukraine. president then poroshenko imploring that we sent lethal weapons. this administration just sent javelins again. so there's some commonality between the trump administration and biden administration with respect to making sure there are weapons to at least defend ukraine. but i do think this is a troubling debate that we're having. if we can't stand -- people look to the united states and look to lady liberty for the understanding that we stand for democracy. we're the light of freedom and liberty and when we cease to be for that, then our own values are at risk. >> congressman mike turner from ohio, thank you so much. good to see you again, sir. coming up, gruesome new details about the violence one police officer went through on january 6th before he took his own life. stay with us. miss cupc never st ood a chance. until, energizer ultimate lithium. who wants a cupcake? 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>> well, i don't know the answer to this, jake. that's -- we're a legislative committee. that's a department of justice matter. whether they are still making cases, whether -- i don't know the answer. but obviously when you see the video, the vicious attacks on our officers, it's -- there needs to be full accountability in the criminal justice system. meanwhile, the committee is working to uncover all the details not only of the day but of the events leading up to the day. we're making good progress. >> so your committee scored a win in your subpoena for emails from john eastman, that's the conservative lawyer who worked for trump and detailed in an insane memo a wild plan for then vice president pence to throw out biden electors on january 6. your committee was granted access to the emails. what do you hope to learn? >> well, obviously he played a key role in this whole plot to overturn the election. so we want to know what he did. he said he was working at all times for former president trump. we'd like to know more about that. you know, i just read the decision from the court, and basically, you know, he lost on every point. i mean the judge said he failed to even make a prima facie case for some of his allegations. so the judge is ordering the parties to move quickly through this through the weekend so that we can get this information as quickly as possible. we think it's important. >> we're showing video right now of eastman speaking at the january 6 "stop the steal" rally. there's so much of this that just played out in front of all of our eyes. >> right. >> trump citing eastman's argument. trump saying that pence needed to overturn the election. trump saying to the crowd let's go to the capitol, we need to fight, et cetera, et cetera. what more are you hoping to find? are you hoping to find a money trail that shows trump okaying some sort of operation in which people start getting bussed in? it seems like there's so much obvious criminality that we all saw happen. >> well, a lot of this was done in public. i think there's a set of people that think if it's in public maybe it wasn't wrong. we want to find the behind-the-scenes elements and see who was involved in the plot, what were the intentions. i mean this was -- clearly we know already -- not just some random event where people showed up randomly on the 6th of january. there were people who plotted it. we've had interviews with proud boys. we've had interviews with many others in the trump administration, and we need to get the full story. not only to lay out the picture, but also to inform ourselves for the legislative recommendations we're going to make. that would include not only reform to the electoral count act but potentially the insurrection act, which the former president repeatedly throughout the election year threatened to invoke without cause and the like. so we are moving quickly and i think we're more than halfway through, for sure. >> democratic congresswoman zoe lofgren from california, thank you so much. good to see you again. talk about tables being turned, porn star stormy daniels taking the stand to testify against her own former attorney, michael avenatti. stay with us. imate an d genuin e- can be transformational. daddy! for the best audio entertainment and storytelling. audible. - family. - family. - family. - family is everything. - [girl 1] family is with us through all of life's great moments. - bye, bye! - [girl 2] family is who we count on, inner greatest time of need because they're always by your side when we need them the most. - and for the past 100 years, shriners hospitals for children has become family to over 1.5 million kids. - [girl 2] in tough times, and good times... - good girl! - [girl 2] they are there when we need the most. - but it's only possible because of people like you. - people who give every month. - because of that, you're our family too. - you're there when we need you most. - but if you haven't joined the shriner's hospital family yet, now is your chance. - [girl 3] all you have to do, is call the number on your screen or go online to loveshriners.org right now, with your monthly gift. and you'll help thousands of kids just like us, get the care and support we need every day. - when you call or go online today with your monthly gift of just $19, just 63 cents a day, we'll send you this adorable "love to the rescue" blanket as our gift to you. it'll be a reminder of how you're standing by our side, just like family. - thank you. - thank you for being a part of our family. - thank you for being a part of my family. - your monthly gift today, can change my life forever. - [girl 3] you can join the thousands of caring family members who give each month by calling this special number on your screen right now. - it's so good to know that we have a family like you, who cares enough to stand by our side. - thank you. - thank you. - thank you. - [girl 3] please, call or go online right now to loveshriners.org with your monthly gift. - [boy 1] you'll make a difference in our lives, every day. rather stunning exchange is it is playing out in manhattan. attorney michael avenatti has started the cross-examination of his former client stephanie clifford who you might know by her stage name stormy daniels. the director paid -- that she was paid hush money to said that she was paid hush money to not reveal that she had sex with donald trump. shortly after melania gave birth to barron trump. she claimed that he cheated her out of $300,000 from a book deal. he spent much of it on everything from hotels and plane tickets to leasing a ferrari. c kara scannell was present. the court adjourned for the day. how much did he cover in that time? >> reporter: well, jake, it was a brief and cordial exchange. though we don't know what to ant is pi -- anticipate tomorrow. he got at the heart of the issue. the prosecutors say that he had stolen money from stormy daniels. he brought up the contract that they signed which he was entitled he said to $100 payment and could deduct expenses from any money they raised online. there is a line that said he could receive money from any book deal. a reasonable percentage. if it is agreed on by both sides. now daniels testified there was no agreement for her to pay any money to avenatti. she also said that he told her that he would not take a penny from her and called her an american hero. so he asked her if she had any text messages or recordings in which he would not take any money. she said she didn't. then he shifted and went to attack her credibility. he asked her about some claims she has made that she could talk to the dead and that she has conversations with a haunted doll named susan. now daniels said yes this is something that -- this doll is a character on a paranormal show she's involved with, a ghost hunt he show called spooky babes and talks to everyone. and after that the court session was over. avenatti told the judge he will cross-examine her for six hours. he could cut him off at any time and he said sometimes less is more on cross-examination. jake. >> did you say spooky babes? >> reporter: yes,dy. and she has an instagram page according to stormy daniels. >> okay, interesting information. so avenatti was her attorney, how, in her view, did he steal her money in what was the way he did it? >> reporter: so the prosecution over their three hours of direct testimony had her walk through the whole relationship, how they met at the waldorf astoria in beverly hills and then she strikes the book deal and she entitled to her advance over the four installments and then she sent wiring instructions to pass on to the bub lisher and and she never got the second or third advance. she was emailing avenatti on whatsapp for five months asking have you spoken to the publisher. where is my money. and the prosecutors have already showed the jury was that avenatti had set up an account in her name that he controlled and told the publisher and the book agent to wire the money to that account. stormy daniels found out the truth when she finally got in push with the publisher. that is when he cut off avenatti. and she felt de trayed and violations. >> appreciate it. scientists say this space object is unlike anything they've seen before. the clues to what it might be. that is next. it was a tragedy. with knockoff batteries, little miss cupcake never stood a chance. until, energizer ultimate lithium. who wants a cupcake? 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