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scaled back build back better bill but how much can you scale it back and have it be building back better? will democrats go along? let's go "out fron." good evening. i'm erin burnett. closing in on trump. big blows to the former president tonight. first closer to criminal charges in georgia. the fulton county da writing tonight her office found, quote, possible criminal disruptions and has opened an investigation into any coordinated attempts to unlawfully alter the outcome of the 2020 elections. the operative word there, criminal. and tonight the georgia prosecutor requesting a special grand jury to force witnesses to testify. all of this investigation centers around the trump phone call with georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger. >> all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. >> and georgia just one of the hits trump is taking tonight. the january 6 committee taking a huge step today. they sent this eight-page letter to ivanka trump full of never before seen texts and details. and a lot of the revelations in this letter come from the man i'm about to show you, keith kellogg. then the vice president mike pence's national security adviser. you see him there. he was in the room with ivanka trump and the former president donald trump on the morning of january 6th. according to the committee and what we found out today he provided a first-hand account of a phone call he and ivanka saw, observed when the room -- between trump and mike pence the vice president that morning. his testimony is cited in the letter. the committee asks kellogg, and i quote, another report of this phone call is that trump said, mike, it's not right. you can do this. i'm counting on you to do it. if you don't do it i picked the wrong man four years ago. you're going to wimp out. do you remember anything like that the committee asked kellogg. kellogg responds. words like that? yes. and according to the committee, kellogg testified that at the end of this call between trump and pence ivanka trump turned to me, quoting the letter, and said, mike pence is a good man. i said, yes, he is. well, here is something else we didn't know in this letter. they talk in here about a text from someone outside the white house urging team trump to do something, anything. we hadn't seen this before. the text reads, is someone getting to potus? he has to tell protesters to dissipate. someone is going to get killed. the response from a white house staffer, quote, i've been trying for the last 30 minutes. literally stormed in outer oval to get him to put out the first one referring to the first tweet. it completely is insane. well, around that time again according to kellogg's testimony as recounted here in the letter, the white house was relying on it to be ivanka, ivanka to be the one to get through to her father. the letter says. the committee asked kellogg, quote, he didn't say yes to mark meadows or kayleigh mcenany or keith kellogg but he might say yes to his daughter? kellogg answers, exactly right. she was the one that all eyes turned to that day. and then there's this. the committee saying here they want to know more about what ivanka knows about this video. you remember the video, the one done hours into the whole thing at 4:17 on january 6th, this one? >> this was a fraudulent election. but we can't play into the hands of these people. we have to have peace. so go home. we love you. you're very special. >> okay. we all remember that. right? it came hours into the whole thing. we learned today from this letter something crucial. and that is that trump filmed multiple takes of that video and that those multiple takes are in existence. and in take after take trump did not say, go home. in take after take he didn't call off his supporters who were attacking the capitol. what he did do was call the insurrectionists very special. did not say go home. we now know multiple takes are there. that happened. they exist. and the news tonight from georgia and from the january 6th select committee in washington is adding to a building crisis for trump this week. yesterday the supreme court allowed allowed more than 700 documents from trump's white house to be sent to the january 6 committee and in new york the attorney general revealed her investigation into the trump organization she says has the goods, has uncovered a number of, quote, misleading statements and omissions in financial statements. it is important to note the investigation is civil but it is running parallel to a criminal investigation led by manhattan's da looking at some of the same conduct. we'll go outfront live in washington to begin our coverage. jamie, i know you have been talking to your sources about this letter, these eight pages. we find a whole lot of new information in here. what more are you learning about what they want from ivanka trump? >> reporter: erin, i don't think we've ever seen a letter like this from the committee, and it is really worth people going online and reading the footnotes because it gives you more than a clue, a road map, to how much the committee already has. my sources tell me that you'll see in here it says documents on file with the select committee. what does that mean? this is testimony, witnesses. this has nothing to do with the national archives. they haven't even really gone through that yet. so what do we know from this letter? we've heard before that ivanka went to the oval office multiple times to try to get her father to say something to stop the riot. that's been reported before. what this letter reveals very, very pointed questions that they have for ivanka trump, and it's based on, to your point about keith kellogg, new texts, new testimony, not just from keith kellogg who is considered a trump loyalist, but from former press secretary kayleigh mcenany. those are brand new texts the committee now has that we've never seen before. very specific topics. they want to ask ivanka trump about her father's state of mind. they want to know why they didn't -- he didn't go down the hall to the briefing room to make a statement to call off the riot. and one of the things that i've never heard before that i think is really an explosive headline, is that ivanka trump on the morning of january 6th was in the oval office, and she heard her father on the phone pressuring mike pence. she is a first-hand witness to trump trying to get pence to overturn the election. >> all right. so, jamie, please stay with me. i want to bring in dana bash, our chief political correspondent and co-anchor of "state of the state the union along with elie horn ig former district attorney for the southern district of new york. we know that ivanka and her husband jared have always played a coy game. they want credit with being the closest advisers to the president, they want to be the one to benefit in every way that entails but then distance themselves when things are uncomfortable. they are the normal ones. the truth holds nobody knows more than ivanka trump does about donald trump's thoughts, feelings, intentions, his mind that day and after. >> that is exactly right. and as jamie was just reporting, you cannot over state how much influence the former president's daughter/senior adviser had on her father not just in personal terms as a daughter but much more importantly for four years as a senior adviser. that is why people would go to her when they wanted to try to get to her father on days that were not january 6th. the four years leading up to that day. but on that day, clearly, from what we are hearing from this letter, there was even more pressure on her to be the person to finally get to her father. it is really noteworthy there was actual testimony from somebody as jamie said is, was a trump loyalist explaining that dynamic. doesn't say anything about whether ivanka trump will actually come because we have to emphasize she was asked to come voluntarily. but i just want to add one other note. we have reported months ago about the disconnect, intentional disconnect by jared and ivanka kushner in order to distance themselves from him politically. you talked about the normalcy, trying to be normal. i am told that is still the case. they're still family. they still spend time together. but on politics they are trying to stay away still one year later. >> right. i know trying to, you know, build business relationships with people certainly in the middle east. money involved for them as well. elie, in the letter, i want to hone in this part about the phone call between the president, vice president, that ivanka trump was there for. the committee writes, quote, testimony obtained by the select committee indicates that members of the white house staff requested your assistance on multiple occasions to intervene in an attempt to persuade president trump to address ongoing lawlessness and violence. published reports indicate that senator graham called you during this period pleading that the president, quote, ask people to leave. in his sworn testimony general keith kellogg explained that white house staff wanted the president to take immediate action to quell the unrest. the president was according to one account stubborn. the staff recognized you may be the only person who could persuade him to act. the testimony also suggests you agreed to talk to the president but had to make multiple efforts to persuade president trump to act. so, elie, talking about going into the oval office and as i mentioned also the phone call that she was there for. in all of this, we see, yes, texts from kayleigh mcenany, a lot of new stuff here, but it seems to rely very heavily on unseen details by us from general kellogg. what is the strategy behind that? >> i think what the committee is doing is showing ivanka trump and all of us we already know an awful lot about what was going on inside the white house before, during, and after january 6th and you, ivanka trump, were a crucial player in all of this. as that excerpt you just read shows, even very powerful, well placed people recognized that ivanka trump was really the only person capable of even trying to talk sense to her father not particularly successful on january 6th but that's how crucial she was and, erin, you said something very important earlier. ivanka trump and jared kushner try to keep up this sort of duality, detached, the adult in the room. if you look at it, they are witnesses, crucial witnesses. ivanka's responsive statement that came out today in response to this letter i found to be so disingenuous because her representative said, well, ivanka didn't speak at the rally and she is opposed to police violence and disrespect of the police. i mean first of all, she tweeted originally that the people who stormed the capitol were great patriots. she deleted that. second of all if she really pleefd that she would testify. she is not above this because she is the former president's daughter. she has crucial evidence. if she meant what she said she would testify. i know she won't but she should. >> this is the point, jamie. the statement did seem to be very, i am too good for this. it said, this is what we got from the spokesperson, quote, ivanka trump just learned of the january 6 committee issued a public letter asking her to appear. as the committee already knows ivanka did not speak at the january 6th rally. as she publicly stated that day at 3:15 p.m. any security breach or disrespect to our law enforcement is unacceptable the violence must stop immediately. know peaceful. that has absolutely nothing to do with what they are asking her to talk about. it is just like i'm going to put out a statement about something else. >> correct. >> what does the committee plan to do if she doesn't say, okay. actually i'm going to come answer your questions? >> we've seen a history here where the committee will invite someone and then will subpoena them. we're not there yet. let's see what happens. although the committee has said that they won't rule something like that out. i think there is something else very important about this letter and about ivanka trump and keith kellogg and kayleigh mcenany. once again, what we are seeing here is that the committee has information from trump's inner circle. these are people he thinks are loyal to him. and they are telling the committee first hand fact witnesses what was going on. that is not good for donald trump. >> and, dana, that is not the only thing, right, in the past couple days. you have this news. you have the georgia news. you have the supreme court completely shutting trump down on his efforts to withhold 47b docu47b -- 700 documents from the committee, the grand jury in georgia, the new york attorney general. she says she has the goods on trump and his children lying, each of them by name, to obtain loans and insurance. there is a parallel criminal investigation going on. and this is happening, dana, as trump is back out doing rallies and interviews. clearly wanting to jump back into the presidential race it seems. does any of this impact what he does? >> absolutely it could. people who are around him and have known him for a long time have told me over and over again there are two things that would keep him from running again. number one, his health if he had a health issue. and number two, if he were in serious, legal jeopardy. we have seen him depending on the level of real legal jeopardy try to deflect and actually use it to his political benefit. so we have to see. but there is no question that all of the things you just described are not good for the former president. for lots of reasons. for legal reasons. for historical reasons. and for political reasons. i think what jamie said about the fact witnesses and the people around the president, former president, is so important because they were relying only on that to get to where they are today. now the supreme court, which we don't need to remind people, but it is worth saying, included on the supreme court are three trump appointees. they all said or at least the majority said that it's okay to give his records to this committee. that means that there is so much more information they're going to see and we now know that they already have a good deal. >> right. and as jamie said they haven't had a chance to go through all that and as you point out all three justices appointed by trump did vote against his case in this specific instance. so elie, one thing i have to ask you about georgia because i mentioned it today, obviously the developments there the da investigating former trump's efforts to overturn the election in georgia specifically has requested a special grand jury in the letter the word criminal is invoked. what does this signal? >> it tells me the da is getting serious down in fulton county, georgia. it does not mean there will certainly be an indictment or the da will even ask a fwrand jury eventually for an indictment but this gives the da crucial tools that, frankly, i don't know why it took her a year to get to this point but we'll leave that. now through this grand jury the district attorney has the ability to issue subpoenas. she says in her letter requesting it, key witnesses have declined to talk to me voluntarily including she mentions brad raffensperger so i need subpoenas. that is a crucial tool to any prosecutor. by the way these are prosecutorial subpoenas. these are not congressional. nobody messes around with these. if you get one of these you have to testify in front of a fwrand jury and if you don't you will be brought in to do so. >> thank you all very much. and next, more breaking news. president biden trying to clean up remarks about russia. right now ukrainian officials tell cnn he must do more. we are live on the ground in ukraine with the latest with our matthew chance. plus senator joe manchin speaking out saying build back better, anything about that got to start from scratch. and the idea of an election police unit picking up steam in georgia after taking a cue from florida. at libertymutual.com so you only pay for what you need. isn't that right limu? 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>> it has really stirred things up. you don't often see a public spat between these two allies, the ukrainian leadership depending so heavily on the united states for political and diplomatic and military support but the comment by president biden really kind of causing the simmering frustrations in the relationship that were kept very much behind the scenes to sort of come out a bit more into some instances boil over. one ukrainian official spoke to me tonight about how the united states must really ramp up its efforts to deter a russian invasion because he said that on going threat the united states is making to impose crushing sanctions on russia if it invades is simply not having the deterrent effect that is necessary. they want immediate sanctions imposed ahead of any russian invasion like for instance stopping the gas pipeline from working in order to punish russia for its aggression and stance against ukraine. also, a lot of complaints behind the scenes in kiev among officials about what they call the slow pace of u.s. military aid to this country. i know it's been stepped up. hundreds of millions of dollars from the united states to ukraine has already been forthcoming. but the ukrainians say they want effie weaponry, antiaircraft facilities. they want antimissile batteries. here is what the official said to me. we want patriots. if we've got patriots then we stand chance of holding back a russian invasion. if we haven't got patriots, the antimissile defense systems of course then we don't stand a chance. and so these are just some of the frustrations that we're being briefed on, i am being briefed on behind the scenes in this sort of ongoing moment of tension between the united states and its ally ukraine. >> matthew, thank you very much. i want to go now on the back of matthew's reporting to democratic congressman adam smith because he is the chair of the house armed services committee and just received a classified briefing on ukraine. senator, let me start by asking you then a chance to respond to what matthew just reported that they say patriots. if we get patriot antimissile defense systems we're okay. if we don't we won't. it comes down to that. are you for doing that? >> well, i don't think that is militarily accurate. in terms of if they had patriots they could stop the russian invasion. i think what is clear from the reporting is, you know, ukraine is an incredibly difficult situation and dangerous situation and they want help. i think we need to be clearer about our support for them. i think there are more weapons we can provide to them and work with our allies to provide them. i completely agree with the ukrainian government we need to send a clearer signal that we will help them, you know, thwart a russian invasion and make it a very high cost effort for putin. more needs to be done. i don't agree that a few patriot missile batteries are the decisive factor at this point. >> so that which i think is important that you lay that out, the ukrainian intelligence reports that matthew chance has obtained they say 127,000 russian troops are near the border with several tens of thousands more ready. seth jones with csis, you know, showed some pictures with us that showed hundreds of battle tanks, self-propelled howitzers, missile systems all within striking distance of ukraine and the capital. i know you're limited with what you can share, chairman, but are you more or less worried tonight about a russian invasion after your briefing? >> well, more, without question. i mean, there is a sense and you've reported on it widely. it is nothing classified. that putin is seemingly more each day inclined to invade. now, it is also very clear no set decision has been made. but the threat is growing. i think our response and the forcefulness of our response needs to take that into account. we are no longer in a position where we are simply trying to dissuade him from moving down this road. he is moving down this road. i think we need to be more aggressive about taking steps to get him to stop. >> let me ask you about that. it gets to the heart of the issue about what type of incursions acceptable versus isn't, to biden's comments. look, president biden has been clear he doesn't want to send u.s. forces into ukraine. he has said that publicly. so far, no signs that the sanctions thus threatened are deterring putin as you just laid out. but the big thing we learned last night is it appeared nato is not united on how to respond because one diplomat from nato told cnn about the minor incursion comment from biden that there is some truth there. there is some truth there. did president biden simply say what the reality is which is if you don't have nato on board and europe on board with sanctions and some incursions are okay and others aren't to them, there is not so much the u.s. can do? >> no, it is not true. it is accurate to say the various nato countries are not necessarily in the same place. it is not accurate to say that absent all of the nato country being 100% on board there isn't anything we can do. there is a lot the u.s. can do. there is a lot we can do with the allies in nato who support us in terms of how aggressive the economic sanctions are. they have not been as aggressive as they could be. in terms of outright canceling nord stream 2, which, you know, we can certainly put pressure on germany to do, which we could put sanctions in place that would effectively do. >> and do you believe germany would do that? that would really hurt them. >> that is why i just said either we persuade germany to do it or we can impose the sanctions that would make it happen anyway. there are options there. the last point is on the weaponry that could be provided to ukraine. certainly, this is about ukraine, but understand what putin is doing here. i've read a lot of reporting about, well, why is putin doing this? it's hard to figure out. putin has been very clear going on over 15 years now. he wants to reconstitute the soviet union empire. he considers its destruction a great tragedy. and ukraine is but one step in that. whatever one feels about ukraine and i feel it is very much worth helping to protect, this is about more than that. if we can provide weapons so even if putin does invade it is a very costly invasion that makes it clear to putin and russia that it was not a smart thing to do, that, too, is important. that is why providing the weaponry, aggressive economic sanctions, is important. but i think the president made it clear this morning and i wish he had yesterday, there is no minor incursion that is okay. what the russians did in crimea, what they did in the eastern ukraine in 2014, that wasn't okay. any further step no matter how small in ukraine is something we will not support and not let pass. >> all right. chairman, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thanks, erin. next, a blow to president biden's agenda tonight from senator joe manchin. he says build back better, if there are negotiations, they have to start from scratch. is the white house even prepared to do that? 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signaling a very tough road ahead as the white house vows to pass, quote, big chunks of president biden's domestic agenda during his second year in office. nancy pelosi panned that but so did manchin telling cnn when asked about the future of build back better, and i quote, senator manchin, i am open to start with a clean sheet of paper. we'll just be starting from scratch. whenever we start on that. manu raju is outfront live from capitol hill. you spoke to senator manchin about all this today. he full well understands that when all of this fell apart he had indicated he was on board with several things already in there and that the kind of perception was well if we come back to the negotiating table we're starting pretty far along. he clearly wanted to tell you something very different today. >> yeah, he made it very clear they're going to start over here. in fact, remember last month he offered the white house $1.8 trillion, had a whole wide range of things indicating he could support ultimately those talks fell apart over manchin's refusal to accept an expansion of the child tax credit which has expired at the end of the year. manchin says the $1.8 trillion offer he had is no longer on the table saying they need to negotiate essentially from the start and he also told me he has not spoken to the president about this issue in detail, not engaged in negotiations be the this since late last month. and also setting a very high bar to all of this. he says in order to move forward they need to get inflation under control and also covid under control. >> is a trillion dollars too much money for you? >> i really don't -- the main thing we need to do is take care of the inflation. get your financial house in order. get a tax code that works. get covid out of the way. then we'll be on, we'll be rolling. >> now, amid all this he has faced enormous criticism from many in his party including the independent from vermont bernie sanders who says him and kyrsten sinema are undermining joe biden's agenda. when i asked manchin about that accusation he said i'm not a washington democrat, so the base they have is a different base than i have. >> wow. again, these words are all chosen to be, carry the barbs that they carry. thank you very much. i want to go outfront now to transportation secretary pete buttigieg. i really appreciate your time tonight, secretary. senator manchin knew what he was doing today when he said this, right, i am open to start with a clean sheet of paper. we'll just be starting from scratch. were you surprised by that? are you okay with that? >> you know, as somebody who is working a lot with the transportation bill that did pass one thing i remember is how many ups and downs there were in that process, times we were close to a deal, back to the drawing board, and what i've noticed as i go around the country talking about the bridges we're going to fix and roads we're going to build is nobody is asking me whether the version that passed was closer to 2.0 or 3.0 or how many times we started with a clean sheet of paper. people just care about the impact on them. i think it is going to be the same with build back better. we know these are good policies that the american people correctly believe are going to make them better off over all whether talking about fighting inflation, lowering the cost of insulin, lowering the cost of being in the work force by getting people child care they can afford, getting people pre-k child tax credit, things we have to do for our climate. you name it. these are really important policies. they are going to make americans better off, help deal with the fact there is a lot of upward pressure on prices and for that reason we continue to believe it will pass. what form or legislative vehicle it is in, ups and downs and twists and turns on capitol hill will continue i'm sure to be a long, drawn out story but at the end of the day these are good policies that have to get done and we'll keep pushing for it >> i know you attended a meeting at the white house today with president biden's infrastructure task force. that is the group you're working with to implement the $1.2 trillion infrastructure package. that is something that both obama and trump failed to do. biden did do it and touted it as his biggest achievement thus far. as we all wln it be voting rights or build back better it is just part of his agenda. what gives you the consul' get build back better considering what it has been through? it's been battered. i understand your point about making sausage is ugly but this has been particularly ugly. >> i don't remember how many times they said the transportation bill was dead too. this is the one-year mark for this presidency. you look at where we started at, you know, a year ago in terms of the public health situation, you know, less than 1% of americans vaccinated. now more than 200 million americans protected. is the job done? of course not. we are dealing with this variant and a lot more but look how far we've come. the economy in grave danger. now unemployment below 4%, unemployment claims lowest level since the '60s. does that mean the job is done? of course not. we are looking at inflation and other issues but extraordinary progress. the same thing with this bill. the president inherited a deeply frighteningly divided country and it remains so in many ways and this bill passed with bipartisan support. i was there with democrats and republicans who voted for it on the south lawn of the white house with the president. that gives me confidence. the fact that in one year this president was able to achieve things that would define the entire term of most american presidencies tells me that i don't know exactly how or what shape it'll take or what day it'll happen but more really good achievements are coming this year. >> let me ask you one other thing top of mind. that is the 5g fiasco going on. verizon and at&t which does own cnn's parent company have announced a delay in launching 5g service near some airports. you got 5g in a lot of other countries so we're lagging on it anyway. airlines have warned of dire consequences. as you know the faa has been sounding an alarm on the problem with this band width and where it is on the spectrum vis-a-vis radar since at least 2015. they were saying, watch, watch, watch. okay. that was obama. then comes in trump. federal government goes ahead anyway. they wanted the money and sold the spectrum for $81 billion to at&t. and the other telecom companies. isn't this a failure of the u.s. government? why did they sell something that they weren't going to then allow to be utilized safely? >> i do think once we have a little more calm around the situation we'll look back and ask ourselves some questions about how we handle these issues. they are really unsexy and really important issues. they sound super technical. getting them right is critically important on issues like aviation safety and the economy as a whole. right now our focus is on handling this with a minimum of disruption. 5g is beginning to be operated around the country. there are buffer zones around the airports to be sure they're safe. the faa will not allow anything unsafe to go forward which is exactly why we had this sense of urgency around this issue. i'll tell you, there is a remarkable level of collaboration going on with the cell phone companies that have voluntarily agreed to delay the activation of some of these towers with the equipment manufacturers the altimeters, which is the worry cell phones could interfere with, and with the airlines with so much at stake in flight making sure they don't get delayed or diverted because of directives from a safety concern. there is remarkable collaboration going on to minimize, you look at what we avoided. our focus is making sure that process is a success then we can zoom out and ask ourselves broader questions about how we handled these issues. telecommunications is so important, advancing it is important. they're going to continue to have these processes of making spectrum available and trying to get us the fast internet we all want just like we all want and need a safe aviation system for everybody. >> i appreciate your time, secretary. thank you. >> thank you. good to be with. >> all right. next the white house doing damage control tonight after biden appeared to cast doubt on the upcoming midterm elections. we'll take you inside beijing to see the incredible lengths china is going to to keeping covid from impacting the olympics. epson ecotank printer. a ridiculous amount of ink! do i look like a money tree? the epson ecotank. just fill & chill. are you taking a statin drug to reduce cholesterol? it can also deplete your coq10 levels. i recommend considering qunol coq10 along with your statin medication. the brand i trust is qunol. ♪ ♪ do your eyes bother you? because after all these emails, my eyes feel like a combo of 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governor in georgia david perdue an enthusiastic supporter of the big lie calling for the creation of an election police force in his state. he says to investigate election crime and fraud and arrest anyone found guilty of such offenses. an election police force. well, that comes as florida's governor ron desantis is asking his state legislature to set aside millions of dollars for a similar police force to investigate election fraud. and answer directly to the governor. outfront now an election security expert with more than 20 years of experience. you know, there is something jagr about election police force. it just sort of brings a lot of historical moments to mind i think for many. but how concerned are you about these proposed election police forces, david? >> i'm significantly concerned for a couple reasons. first of all we have a very good idea of how much voter fraud actually exists and the amount is not zero but not much greater than zero. florida and georgia are great examples of that. election officials in both those states, republicans and democrats, do a very good job of protecting against voter fraud and if those rare cases where it does happen, prosecuting that voter fraud. even right leaning groups who promoted the idea of voter fraud like the heritage foundation, the bush justice department, even trump's voter fraud commission he installed, have not been able to demonstrate any significant amount of fraud. there is a handful of cases when it happens. it is detected. it is prosecuted. and so these are unnecessary police forces that are probably more directed at the election officials who did an outstanding job in 2020 rather than at any actual threats to election integrity. >> as you point out, you know, 0.001% of the ballots cast in these usually states, the ap analysis, and as you point oud republican secretaries of state, democratic secretaries of state, they all agree on this, right? they all have investigated it. that context is really important, because, you know, today you have the white house press secretary jen psaki having to clarify twice that president biden, she says, was not intending to cast doubt on the upcoming midterm elections when he said this after being asked whether those elections would be legitimate if congress does not pass his voting rights legislation. >> i'm not saying it isn't going to be legit, it's a direct proportion to us not being able to get these reforms passed. >> that was a word sandwich. david, you know, at a time when lies have been used to sow doubt over u.s. elections were you disappointed biden did not just clearly black and white very simply state that u.s. elections are free and fair? >> well, i'm glad the white house clarified the position today and it is a fact that democracy is incredibly fragile right now. mainly because of the efforts to delegitimize elections and democracy by the losing presidential candidate in the last we need to stand up for our elections, because the election officials around this country, republicans, democrats, at the state and local level vshgs done a remarkable job. we are more professional now in the administration of elections than ever before. the 2020 election was the most secure, transparent and verified election than before. so if you vote, your vote matters, it will count, and the result of the elections will be accurate and verifiable, and the people that take power will be the people who truly won the majority of the vote. >> that is the simple black and white stated answer. thank you, david. i appreciate you. >> thank you. next, a look at beijing and how it's handling an influx of people around the world for the upcoming olympics. wait till you see this. imagine happening in the u.s. or europe. and an attorney for victims speaking out, does not agree with the cia. slash... and this is the basement slash panic room. maybe what your family needs is a vacation home slash vacation home. find yours on the vrbo app. with 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competition. these winter games, taking place in a capital city thane creasingly feels like a fortress. can china determined to keep out any new cases of covid-19, starting at the airport. this is the terminal used by athletes, and the olympic personnel, and media arriving into beijing. they set a wall up that keeps the general population away from everyone who is part of the olympic arrivals. those coming in required to download this official app to monitor their health, inputting their information starting 14 days before arriving in beijing. while health surveillance and strict contact tracing is part of life for everyone living in china, it's making visitors uneasy. cybersecurity researchers warn the app has serious encryption flaws, potentially compromising personal health data. china dismisses concerns, but team usa and athletes from other countries are being advised to bring burner phones instead of their personal ones. athletes and personnel will be taken into what organizers call the closed loop system. not one giant bubble, but multiple bubbles connected by dedicated shuttles. there are several hotels and venues, plus the olympic village that will only for participants. transport buses, personnel, the media will come through these gates. but for those that are residents outside, that is ago close as we can get. then there are the mountain venues. connected by high speed train and highways, newly built for the winter games. so as to main tin the separation, even the rail cars are divide. and the buses given marked lanes. officials have told residents that if they see one of the vehicles that's part of the olympic convoy get into a crash, to stay away. they have got a specialized unit of medics to respond to those incidents. it's all to keep the virus from potentially spreading. it also helping keep visiting journalists from leaving the capitol city to other regions like tibet, to explore controversial topics. with the world's attention, the olympics allows china to showcase its perceived superiority in containing the virus. but this will in many ways be a tale of two cities. one cure rated for the olympic arrivals and preselected group of spectators. another that is the real beijing. though some local beijing residents are now in a bubble of their own. communities locked down after recent cases surfaced in the city outside the olympic boundaries. a mounting challenge for a country that's trying to keep covid out, and yet still stage a global sporting spectacle to wow the world. erin, that is the real channel, to portray this as an open, welcoming host city, when you're surrounded by barriers. we're seeing more and more broadcasters and personnels canceling plans to come here, in part because the realization is starting to hit. china's zero covid restrictions are like nothing else in the world. if you contract the virus, or you've been in close contact, there is no challenging them. they can and most likely will put you in isolation. airen? >> it is incredible. just seeing your own streets -- it's unbelievable. thank you so much. and next, an attorney for victims of havana syndrome taking on the cia. how about a throwback? ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ this is elodia. she's a recording artist. 1 of 10 million people that comcast has connected to affordable internet in the last 10 years. and this is emmanuel, a future recording artist, and one of the millions of students we're connecting throughout the next 10. through projectup, comcast is committing $1 billion so millions more students, past... and present, can continue to get the tools they need to build a future of unlimited possibilities. it's been nearly two years since the pandemic started. our students and teachers tried their best, but as a parent, i can tell you that nearly 18 months of remote learning was really hard. i'm so angry that instead of helping our kids get back in the 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