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you know, one of the things -- they're actually looking at something right now, don, it's kind of like pie in the sky polly anna, democrats are looking at changing the senate rules so it would actually be a filibuster like mr. smith goes to washington. and like there's no way this is going to happen, but i think it would be so important to have the discussion, and i'm not talking about, you know, ted cruz green eggs and ham style. >> yeah. >> talking about actually discussing what is at stake and hearing from both sides hearre see what they think. >> i think we're beyond that, it would be great if we could actually do it in a democratic way, small d democratic way, we'll see. we appreciate it. i will see you on friday. back tomorrow. >> see you then. >> this is "don lemon tonight." senate republicans baclocking voting rights legislation put forward by democrats. they're going to vote any minute now at the nuclear option, as we look at mitch mcconnell, changing the filibuster to allow the legislation to pass with a simple majority. also, all but certain to fail due to the objections of two democrats, talking about manchin and sinema, and all of that comes in the wake of president biden's nearly two-hour long news conference today. did you watch it? it was a long news conference. what i want to do here is really take a clear look at what we saw today, what we actually saw and heard and how it comes across, okay? so let's use common sense to take a good look at this and i'm going to give it to you straight here, just the facts, no conservative, not liberal, right, just facts. we saw president defending his record, changing his tune. does he realize now that his presidency needs to adjust to the reality of events? is he thinking and remembering why he got elected? it was to end the pandemic and end the crazy. that's what people really wanted, some normalcy, stability. end the pandemic, end the crazy. just think about it, excuse me, think about it. all the press conferences, the fake media and da da da and the screaming, you didn't have any of that today. you may not have liked what he said, whatever, but you didn't have anybody attacking anyone, attacking the media, attacking people who didn't vote for him or don't support him. none of that. do presidents misspeak? sure, they do. all the time. they have to come back and clean up on aisle ukraine, sure they do, but that's normal stuff. how soon we forget. that's normal stuff. now, we all know that, look, that the crazy part didn't happen, right? he hasn't really added the stability and hasn't ended the pandemic, and that's why he's in a big jam trying to get out of it and get back on track, but we can't look at that without looking at the republicans again, facts, republicans who want to make sure that he stays jammed up, and that's where we are right now. and that's where we saw a change of tone today. i want you to listen to what he says about -- this is about mitch mcconnell and what he said about mitch mcconnell and republicans, watch. >> i think that the fundamental question is what's mitch for? what's he for on immigration? what's he for? what's he proposing? what's he for dealing with russia that's different than i'm proposing and many of his republican friends and colleagues are supporting as well. what's he for on these things? what are they for? did you ever think that one man out of office could intimidate an entire party where they're unwilling to take any vote contrary to what he thinks should be taken for fear of being defeated in a primary? >> not wrong. he's not wrong. i mean, think about it. when he says what's mitch mcconnell for? that's not a attack. that's true. remember repeal and replace, how long did they do that? eight, ten years? . what do republicans stand for except for blocking joe biden. that was the one thing that i was surprised that he didn't realize, you know, they told you, mr. president, that they wanted to kill your presidency in the crib, in its infancy. shouldn't wbe surprised. on the night the senator's driving a stake through the heart of voting rights legislation. here's how the president answered a question about black voters who fought to put him in the white house and now feel that he is not fighting for them. >> well, i think if, in fact, no matter how hard they make it for minorities to vote, i think you're going to see them willing to stand in line and defy the attempt to keep them from being able to vote. i think you're going to see the people we're trying to keep from being able to show up, showing up and making the sacrifice that needs to be made in order to change the law back to what it should be. >> look, it is true. black folks are accustomed to having to do whatever it takes to fight for voting rights. we will stand in line for hours. we will stand in line for hours so that the wrong person doesn't get in office, but there is a limit. look, i got to tell you, i get a text from my mom. i don't care what they say about joe biden is her text, and i'm quoting here, if he runs again i'm going to vote for him. those are the moderate middle of the road democrats who are not that political who actually went to the polls, the church ladies with hats. that's my mom. those are the voters who put him into office, not the extremes. they're still with him. but they want to see the fight. they want the energy, bring the energy, bring the fight. get voting rights done. i'm going to talk about what black folks care about in just a minute here. not that different than anybody else, but they do care about voting rights, it's very important. so clearly we see that tonight, others including senators in congress are not doing the right thing. we get it. we see it. but while people of color care about voting rights, the rights that so many americans fought and died for, we also care about safety. we care about security, and we care about the economy, centrist, middle of the road democrats, church ladies like my dad, my stepdad, carried a lunchbox to work every day god rest his soul, right? workers, middle of the road. they don't care about the extremes. they want their families to be safe physically and financially. that's the bottom line, but they do want voting rights. they want that just like every other american to keep their family safe, to be able to afford things. everyone cares about how much it costs to put food on the table and put gas in the tank. they care about crime. they care about covid as we enter year three of a pandemic that has changed life in america and not for the better. >> i'm not going to give up and accept things as they are now. some people may call what's happening now the new normal. i call it a job not yet fi finished. >> mm-hmm. so let's be real. what's been one of the main obstacles to finishing that job? a deliberate strategy on the right to make sure that he does not succeed, to obstruct, to spread misinformation, and to inflame anger over masks and vaccines. today we saw a president who wanted to acknowledge the struggles people are facing but who isn't willing to capitulate to the emerging narrative that his presidency hasn't done anything to help. >> i think you have to look at things that we used to look at on balance. what is the trajectory of the country? is it moving in the right direction now? i don't know how we can say it's not. i understand the overwhelming frustration, fear, and concern with regard to inflation and covid. i get it, but the idea if i told you when we started, i tell you what i'm going to do, the first year i'm going to create over 6 million jobs, i'm going to get unemployment down to 3.9%, i'm going to generate and i named it all, you look at me like you're nuts. >> now, that does not mean that there aren't things that need to change in this administration, okay? there are. this president needs to focus on what got him elected, right? he ran as a problem solver, the adult in the room who could get things done. that is a joe biden people want to see. not one who is focused on the left or blundering a strategy on voting rights and the filibuster, setting up a defeat on the very night that he tried to turn things around. that's not what people want, adult in the room in the pandemic, normalcy. get rid of the crazy. you think about it and you listen to joe biden today, when has trump ever been -- the former president, measured words. let me think about what i'm going to say here. never. people don't want to see one whose party isn't ready to follow the grand vision, a president whose party is not ready to follow the grand vision of transformational change that they have been pushing, and that's why he said that he'd be willing to break up his build back better plan to get parts of it done, and why he said there are parts important to him that he might not be able to get done. the fact is democrats are worried with the midterms just months away. moderates, independents, progressives, blacks and whites, urban and suburban, that's who elected this president, and if you don't forget that, it's not too late to get this administration back on track. there's a new "new york times" op-ed, conservative columnist brett stevens, you should read it. he writes biden's performance thus far is sometimes compared with jimmy carter's, maybe the better source of comparison is bill clinton who ran as a centrist, tilted left in his first year, saw his signature legislation blow up in congress, suffered military humiliation in somalia, and then figured out how to recapture the center and save his presidency. roll that back for me mr. teleprompter. i want to read that again. okay? this is from brett stevens, listen, biden's performance thus far is sometimes compared with jimmy carter's, maybe the better source of comparison is bill clinton who ran as a centrist, tilted left in his first year, saw his signature legislation blow up in congress, suffered military humiliation in somalia -- afghanistan -- and then figured out how to recapture the center and save his presidency. what did they say, history doesn't often repeat itself, but it sometimes roohymes, right? is joe biden more like jimmy carter or is he more like bill clinton? this is not about transformation or bipartisan dreams, it's about how this white house is going to respond to reality. the reality that republicans aren't going to work with you just like they did not want to work with you for president barack obama. they have proved that over and over. it is not the same senate as when joe biden was in the is that the. it's not the same senate as when joe biden was vice president. it is not the same senate as it was two years ago, three years ago. the reality of covid and millions of anti-vaxx americans who still believe the misinformation that they have been fed by the right wing, that's where we are now. the reality of inflation that americans are feeling every day, that's where we are now. the reality of crime that is making our citiesless safe. that's where we are now. will president biden deal with the reality that there will continue to be obstruction, there will continue to be resistance, there will continue to be misinformation, the big lie, all of it, there will continue to be that. people are locked in their positions because they have been fed so many misinformation they don't know what's true, what's not. they're just -- they sit in front of the television locked into one channel that feeds them bs. in a few months, the american people will decide whether the administration is living in the real world that they see every day. let's bring in now cnn senior politics analyst, kirstjen powers and max boot. hello to both of you, thank you so much. don't mean to be dramatic, but listened to the press conference today ask that's where i am right now. good evening. how are you guys doing? >> food. >> good. i i thought you were great, don. >> what did you think? i'm going to do like what's his name used to do on your old network when i used to watch. what did i do -- you know who i'm talking about, right? what did i do wrong? how did i do, kirsten, right? >> well, look, i think -- the thing -- my big takeaway from all of this is -- and i think that it's pretty different than what a lot of people think which is we have these unrealistic expectations. joe biden has been president for one year. >> right. >> and it's like how is joe biden not solved every single problem in the world? how could he not have done that? first of all, he's been president for one year. second of all, there's been a global pandemic, which is not something that most presidents have to deal with, and the economy actually is doing very well, which normally people would be talking about that as a good thing. inflation is a problem, but on every other metric, the economy is doing very well. he actually has passed some legislation that's pretty meaningful, bipartisan infrastructure bill showing that he can work with both parties. the rescue package around covid. i do think that it was a mistake to be trying to get joe manchin and kyrsten sinema to go along with something that they were never going to go along with, but does that make him a failure? it doesn't, and i just think the way that this is covered is like it's covered like it's sports or something, and it's not sports. it's very complex. it's very complicated. he doesn't have 50 senators that he can count on. he has a republican party that will not do anything with him basically other than the few people he was able to get for the infrastructure bill, but on anything else, they don't want to work with him. >> yeah. >> so when it comes to voting rights, who are the bad guys in the voting rights story? it's the republicans. right? >> i can't believe there isn't one republican -- i can't believe there isn't one republican who is not for securing voting rights for people, you know, for everyone. and i got to get max in, max she mentioned the republicans. president biden said today that the gop was not nearly as obstructionist during the obama years. i'm not sure that's true, you know, because remember mcconnell said that -- they said the same thing, one-term president, joe biden's presidency infancy, obama one-term president. and senator mcconnell vowed to block the biden administration 100%. he was elected on bipartisanship, but is he dealing with the reality of the republican party? >> i think the scales are falling from joe biden's eyes, and i think a lot of people have been suggesting for the last couple of years that he had very romantic, rosy eyed views of the republican party. i mean, in some ways, don, frankly this reminded me of donald trump's conceit. trump always said i'm the greatest deal maker and biden had the same notion, that he could make a deal with republicans. now after a year of banging his head against the wall, he's realized that's largely not the case. although in fairness he did get the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill, which is more than donald trump was ever able to achieve, but as you point out, there is not a single republican vote on voting rights, and you know, republicans are even afraid to investigate what happened on january 6th. and so that to me, don, was actually in some ways the most striking part of the press conference today where biden was acknowledging that he was wrong about the republicans. they don't have any positive agenda as he pointed out. they are just being simply obstructionist, and he is coming to terms with that. and you've seen the last couple of weeks, he has fwgiven some o the toughest speeches of his presidency attacking republicans for inciting the january 6th insurrection, attacking republicans for not supporting voting rights, and of course the reaction from pundits and republicans is, oh, you know, biden is being divisive. how awful. well, the reality is 71% of republicans don't even acknowledge that joe biden was legitimately elected, so who is being divisive here? >> yeah, i'm glad you mentioned that. i'm going to let you guys go, but i'm glad you mentioned that because i wrote about -- i where in the book that i wrote last year on the subject of race how people are more upset about the idea that someone will call them a racist than actually doing the right thing. so when he said i wasn't saying that they were racist, that they were george wallace, and that they were bull connor, i'm saying that's the side that you're on. i completely get what he's saying, i get the metaphor. i get the analogy. you can say that someone's on that side or talk about the arc of history without saying that you are a racist. i think people, the pundits like to use that. anyways, that's it. thank you, guys. i appreciate it. thanks for listening to me. i'll see you guys soon. >> thank you. >> so we heard a clear change of tone from the president today when it comes to republicans. is he ready take them on? that is a question for -- there he is. mr. kasich. hey, after the break. ♪ my name is austin james. as a musician living with diabetes, fingersticks can be a real challenge. >> announcer: "don lemon tonight" is brought to you by freestyle libre. i know my glucose numbers without fingersticks. now i'm managing my diabetes better and i've lowered my a1c from 8.2 to 6.7. take the mystery out of managing your diabetes and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free at freestylelibre.us do you take aspirin? 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will they try to now turn their attention to build back better or trying to slim that down. that's what we're going to keep an yay out for. right now, we are watching the senate vote on this filibuster rules changes and what we are expecting to happen and what we are keeping an eye on is that democrats will not have enough votes to get that done. >> all right, jessica dean, thank you very much as expected. we appreciate that. joining me now cnn senior commentator and former ohio governor, mr. john kasich. good evening to you, how are you? >> hi, don, i'm good. always interesting. >> yeah, i know, and it never stops. you've been critical on the course of this president, the course this president has taken lately even though you supported president biden against trump. did you like what you heard today from him? what did you think? >> i just don't think he hit the mark particularly well, don. lack, we mentioned bill clinton in -- you know, you talked about him earlier. you know, bill clinton did something that was -- but he was an unbelievably gifted politician. he could not only be very compassionate with people, but he could also be very, very positive. you know, he was the guy that came up with the saying i can feel your pain. so i think the ability to be compassionate and then to inspire hope i think is good, and i think at the end, don, you kind of hit on some of the subjects, inflation, covid, crime, schools, those are the things that people are thinking about across america, and i think because he hasn't touched those issues very effectively, inflation, you know, i think that's why his numbers are down. can he -- look,ic y i think you going to have a republican house, maybe even a republican smat, and you're going to see a different joe biden. you're going to see the joe biden i thought we were going to see when he took office. there will be compromises and get some things dope. >> i think joe biden has done all the compromising. i think the republicans haven't done all the compromising. he's been trying -- he's been reaching -- listen, this is why you're here, he's been trying to have this bipartisanship, bipartisanship, bipartisanship, and nothing is working. he never gets any votes from republicans no matter what. >> don, the biggest infrastructure package -- >> except for infrastructure. >> -- >> in our modern history. that's like except for the fact that the titanic hit an iceberg. it's a big deal -- >> hold on, let me just say this -- >> there's more than infrastructure, there are a lot of other things. you're right, i gave you infrastructure, except for, that but there are other things that are important to the american people. >> i know there are, but you say that they're not getting any help, even mitch mcconnell voted -- and i'm not the biggest fan of any of those folks as you know, look, infrastructure passed the senate with 19 republicans, including the republican leader. in the house they had 13 votes, and they could have had 20 had he pushed it: joe biden made no effort to reach out. let's talk about voting rights. you heard what the former senator said -- or the senator now, mitt romney, he says no one ever called me. hear what biden said, i needed to get my act together before i called them. don, if you and i are going to put something together where we fundamentally disagree but we think there's something we can agree on, don't call me and just tell me what it is, work with me to put it together. >> i don't disagree with you -- >> so i think there's a child credit that could happen. >> i wouldn't think i would knead to call you for something like voting rights. i would think that you are, you know, smart enough, compassionate enough man to understand that the right to vote should be available to all, access to the voting booth should be available to all, and we should make it as easy as p possible. that's what john kasich stands for, why would i have to call you about that? >> let me just tell you this -- i am told, and i don't know this because if you read "the wall street journal," they say one things and if you read "the new york times," it's like a tale of two different cities. think about this, i was told tonight that the voting restrictions in joe biden's home state of delaware are more severe than in georgia. i don't know if that's for sure true. i'm with you, we should not make it hard for people to vote. we should make it easy for people to vote, and the vote has to have great integrity. anything that starts to make it hard for people to vote i'm not for, period, end of story, and i think there are senators that could feel the same way if they get sought out. that's what i think. >> remember, it's not just, you know, people think, well, where can you not vote? people can vote, but if you look at the laws that are actually going on the books around the country by republican legislatures, it is -- it's pretty scary, and who they're putting in charge of counting and all of that, that's all part of voting rights as well. we must remember that. i've got to say, you said you're going to see -- and you can correct me if i'm wrong -- the joe biden that was -- that you thought would emerge after he was elected. this president emphatically is saying that he is not a socialist. he's not bernie sanders, that he's a mainstream democrat. did that remind you of how he campaigned in the general election, maybe he realizes he may appear to have moved too far to the left? >> don, think about this for a second. the president of the united states said i am not a socialist. i mean, and there are people around america saying it. okay? just for him to have to say that just seemed patently crazy, right? the fact of the matter is biden institutionally in his dna, he's moderate. he's center left, and there are plenty of people on the center right that could put deals together. i'm telling you the child tax credit. you're going to get something, i think, on this electoral reform. i think it's going to come. there is grounds on which to do prescription drugs and to lower -- there's plenty of areas to do this. i agree with you in the house, though, the republicans in the house, they're out of control, and you know what? sad, the thing is, they're going to probably win the majority, but if they win the majority, it's going to change joe biden. he'll be back to the old joe that we all knew. >> you know why he has to say that he's not -- partially, i do think that the administration doesn't realize that they are -- they have been catering to the extremes of the party too much, to the left. but also, it's because of a narrative that is created by the right that has been adopted by the pundits, you know, the -- he has to say because many people know him or they are pbasing their opinion or forming their opinion on something they have seen either on the propaganda network or some right wing loon knee network that joe biden is a socialist. he's not. it's crazy that he has to say it. it's only because that's how he's being painted in certain corners. >> you know, there's one other thing, don, to think about for a second. there are people that they're afraid that the values of our country are being undermined. they don't want any changes. see, i think there's three groups of people. there's people on the left that are kind of woke. they want to change everything. there are people on the right that don't want anything to change, and then there's us who are in the middle and for evolution, not revolution, and that's -- >> sounds like you were listening to the beginning of my show -- >> i actually didn't because i was talking about voting rights with a guy from ohio secretary of state. but don, that's the middle of the country. >> i agree with you. >> and i love when we can have a conversation like this. this is a good thing. >> the centrists and the folks in the middle. everybody's going to get mad at me, you know, the far left and the far right. i don't really care. >> yes, they will. >> the people who put joe biden in office were the people who are in the middle, and they wanted -- what people want, right, they want -- they want to get rid of the crazy, and they want stability. that's it. that simple. thank you, sir. >> and by the way, he's got -- he's only been the president for one year, there's three years to go. >> you're killing me, my producers are yelling at me. >> i know you're out of time. president biden defending his record over his first year in office, but has the white house done enough to tout his accomplishments? 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it's a lot better than dems, infighting filibuster, so joining me now to discuss a former mayor of new orleans, mitch landrieu, the white house infrastructure czar. good evening. so i don't need to explain everything that is going on with you. so you're the guy in charge of the roads part basically, so what'd you think of the legislation failing? what'd you think of what biden did today? do you -- here's a better question. do you take issue with the idea that this presidency needs a reset is what i really want to ask you? >> well, first of all, we're only in the first year of a four-year presidency. that's why it's a four-year term, and when people talk about reset, it's amazing because nobody wants to talk about actually what he did in his first year. you know, the president has great empathy for the american people and for what we've all gone through. i mean, all of us have been through a rel hellish time with omicron and how many family members have been lost and the tragedy of it. he has been to many tragic sites this year. he has great empathy for that. but he also is a guy that's tough and he's deliberate. i mean, if you think about it with the american rescue plan and with the infrastructure bill, he's passed two of the largest pieces of legislation in the history of the country, and for some reason people seem to be glossing over that. when we got there there were 2 million people who were vaccinated, now there are 200 million people. lots of people were dying when he took office. not so many today. he actually cut the poverty rate by 40% in the country and put money in people's pockets and saved the economy and then turned around and pased the largest infrastructure bill in the history of the country since eisenhower, something that the past five, six presidents have been unable to do. basically we're in a position now to rebuild roads, rebuild bridges, have clean water so that people can have safe lives again, get rid of lead pipes, extend broadband across the united states of america. clean up wells that are spewing met methane. all of those things are fantastic. today i'm listening to the media talk about, you know, the criticism, and by the way, i love john kasich, but just to remind people on the infrastructure bill, there are actually 214 republican members of the house, and all but 14 voted against it. and just now on the filibuster, it is true that two democrats voted against it, but all of the republicans voted against it. so in my life, i'm from new orleans, and when the music plays, baby, it takes two to tango, not just one. so the president is going to do his work. he's going to do what is necessary to get things done and make americans' lives safer and lower the cost. you know, there are two sides to this story, and right now only one of them is being told. >> it takes a whole group to second line, and so -- >> i guess that's one way to say it. listen, the president takes responsibility for what's going on in this country, but he's not by himself. this is an all in kind of deal, so i think early on -- i mean, if the republicans sit down and don't do anything, it's kind of hard to drag them along. it would be helpful if they got up and walked a little bit towards you. he's not supposed to be feeding him warm porridge all the time. >> i want to continue to talk to you, don't go anywhere. we're coming right back with mitch landrieu. >> all right. nt ♪ but heinz knows there's plenty of magic in all that chaos. ♪ so different and so new ♪ ♪ was like any other... ♪ some of my best memories growing up were cooking with mom. so when she moved in with us, a new kitchen became part of our financial plan. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com you could wait... all night... for an email response from steve, who will sign back in at 9 am tomorrow morning. orrrr... you could find the answer right now in slack. and give steve a break. slack. where the future works. after my car accident, i wondered what my case was worth. so i called the barnes firm. when that car hit my motorcycle, insurance wasn't fair. so i called the barnes firm. it was the best call i could've made. atat t bararnefirmrm, our r inry a attneysys wk hahard i could've made. atat t bararnefirmrm, to get you the best result possible. call us now and find out what your case could be worth. you u mit bebe sprisised ♪ the barnes firm injury attorneys ♪ ♪ call one eight hundred, eight million ♪ okay, so mitch landrieu is back with me. mitch, you and i have had many conversations about the right to vote and the state of our democracy. are you personally disappointed by the demise of voting rights, at least for now? >> i think it's awful. i don't know what are the republicans for, nothing, what are they afraid of? everything. why would you be afraid of people voting. in america it's supposed to be easy, not hard, unless you're scared of something. so -- and listen, to the white people of america, i'd wake up. this is just not about african americans. i mean, the right to vote is an essential american right that without we don't really have a democracy. so as dr. king said if people would read the letter from birmingham or the latest book he wrote, which is where do we go from here, it's a deeper dive. it's critically important to the black community. i think you said black people voting is not the only thing, the safety, being able to make a dollar, being able to build generational wealth, being able to become a business person, you know, making sure your kids have a better life than you, just like everybody else. but when somebody threatens the thing that gives you the opportunity to have a voice in america, all of a sudden it gets real personal. i think it's a shame what happened tonight. obviously this fight is not over, it's been going on and people have lost their lives over this as you and i know. i was very disappointed in the vote tonight. but you know, the president's going to keep fighting and that's what he does. >> can you just give me a quick word, people say, well, people have access to the voting booth. where can people not vote. this is about what's happening in different legislatures around the country about who counts the vote and who can overturn and so on and so forth. >> this is jim crow 2.0, there's no question about it. a long time ago they used to scare people because folks got lynched and then they made you count jellybeans and threw all kinds of things in the way of making it hard to vote. here's the point. if you want people to do something, make it easy. if you want to make it hard for them to do it, then make it harder. it's just not rocket science. you can dress this up a whole bunch of different ways and it just looks nasty. it's unfortunate, but we're going to keep fighting. people have been struggling for a long, long time in this country, and that road is well worn, but we have a long way to go before we perfect our democracy. but tonight was a step backwards i thought. >> it's always good to have you on, tell your mom i said hi. your mom and them, everybody i said hello. >> thank you. your mom and them. >> take it easy, mr. landrieu, always a pleasure. the supreme court deal ing a blow to the former president, now the january 6th committee will soon get its hands on hundreds of documents that could shed light on what happened leading up to the insurrection at the capitol. you can act quickly. that's decision tech, only from fidelity. if you have medicare and medicaid, a unitedhealthcare dual complete plan can give you extra benefits at no cost to you. like up to $150 for covered over-the-counter items and groceries every month. with unitedhealthcare dual complete... ...there's more for you. 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>> they have had hundreds of different interviews of people. they have evidence that's come in. they have people behind the scenes already testified. we know the ones who have refused, steve bannon or mark meadows, but remember at this juncture they probably have a whole host of information that could corroborate anything that comes down the line. so this might be the final jigsaw puzzle piece to show whether somebody was acting at the direction, really the highest officeholder in the land, the president of the united states, and anyone in his orbit and could give us information about what the president was doing at the time, what he did leading up to january 6th and what he did afterwards and really could unpack that big lie that has been metastasized and codified across this land in voter legislation. >> there was only one, justice clarence thomas, said he would have sided with the state. not making the records public. legal experts saying this is the right call, but are you surprised by the decision given the conservative majority of the court? >> you know, it was the right call. and i think trump is surprised, three supreme court justices he feels he put in place didn't have his back. i know that justice kavanaugh talked about the idea of, listen, there are instances when a former president, even though they are former president, might have some rights tro having executive privilege. we don't want a chilling effect for people who want to give candid information. it has constraints and it -- it should shock no one, including the former president when you have an insurrection on the citadel of our democracy, congress has a right and the public has a right in know what happened and your personal prerogative should not dictate. this isn't a foreign affairs or conversation that would be private. this is the public's house that was stormed and we have a right no to know. that's what the supreme court thought was most important. >> laura coates, her new book "just pursuit." thank you, laura. see you soon. >> thank you. president biden holding a nearly two-hour news conference to mark his first year in office and he is signaling a major change in how he approaches his presidency. well, would you loo? 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