germany s chancellor saying they don t want to make such a bold move alone and calling on others including the u.s. to do the same. and this is the strategy we have, that we are strategically interlocked, together with our friends and partners, that we are never doing something just by ourselves but together with others, especially the united states. reporter: that german resistance straining the nato alliance when they have acted largely in unison for the past year of this war and frustrating ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. translator: do not hesitate. there is no need to compare. if you say i will give tanks if someone else also give tanks or i am powerful in europe but i will help if someone else outside of europe also helps. it seems to me that this is not a very correct strategy. reporter: ukraine s defense ministry putting out a lighthearted video appeal. the american m-1 abrams tanks, u.s. officials say, is too heavy, too complicated, too hard to m
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