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Transcripts For CNN CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell 20240709



at helpfosterchildren.com it is the top of a very busy hour. i'm alisyn camerota. >> i'm victor blackwell. it is a major breaking news day. first this new indictment in the january 6 investigation reveals how one far right group prepared for potential violence. the justice department has charged 11 defendants with seditious conspiracy. meantime the supreme court has blocked president trump's testing mandate for large businesses, but it allows vaccine mandates for health care workers to take effect. >> and this after biden's agenda took another blow on capitol hill, congresswoman sinema has put a stop to the vote. u.s. attorney kim wheeling, josh campbell and analyst el elie hoenig. tell us about this. >> this is a major step the department has taken. we've seen this from the ground up. what we have now is charges against stuart rose, who is a founder of the oathkeepers, a far right anti-government association, and ten others who are now charged with seditious conspiracy. part of what the government is alleging here is that essentially they carried out a paramilitary plan, essentially, that was an effort to prevent, hinder and delay the certification of the electoral college vote on january 6. how did they do that, according to prosecutors? they organized paramilitary training and tactics for some of the members who were there on that day. there were a total of 19 people so far affiliated with this group that have faced charges so far in federal court. they brought paramilitary gear, knives, camouflage uniforms, tactical weapons that they were ready to deploy that day. they even organized what, according to prosecutors, was a quick reaction force just across the river in virginia which the goal was to try to reinforce the group that first attacked the capitol. according to prosecutors, this is not just -- what this tells us is this was not just a spontaneous riot, which is what some of the people have been trying to minimize what happened on january 6 as. i'll read you a couple parts of this indictment where, on december 11, according to prosecutors, there was a signal encrypted-out message that was being communicated by these groups, and stuart rhodes says, quote, it will be a bloody fight. we will have a fight, that cannot be avoided. that is a quote from the indictment. and according to this, it is reaction to president biden on another one. on another one leader rhodes says, quote, we will have to do a massively bloody revolution against him. that is what's going to have to happen. that is a reference to the idea that on january 20, president biden is going to assume office, something they said they would never accept. alisyn and victor? >> elie, let's go to you next. more than 700 people have been arrested as part of this investigation, but these charges of seditious conspiracy are a first. explain what is this charge of seditious conspiracy. >> victor, this is really a powerful statement by the justice department. the term sedition, obviously it's a powerful sort of loaded term, but it's important that people understand what is and isn't charged here. there are various forms of seditious in the federal law. one of them is to try to overthrow the government by force. that is not what is charged in this indictment. another definition of sedition, which is charged here, is an effort to obstruct a governmental fucnction, as evan just said, here that includes the electoral counting of the votes. there are 11 people charged with conspiracy here. there could be more charges of conspiracy which is an agreement by one or more people to break the law. one thing that jumps out at me in this indictment is the root e motivating factor behind all of this according to the indictment is the big lie, the big lie of election fraud. that is what spurred the oathkeepers, according to doj, to attack the capitol, and i think that's really important to keep in mind when you hear some of the revisionist history that started to crop up around january 6. >> and another thing that jumped out at me is how far in advance before january 6 that this planning was. as evan just read, that text to the group chat, the invitation only signal group, that said if president-elect biden were to assume the presidency, it will be a bloody fight. that was on december 11. again, as we all know, the idea this was a spontaneous riot, if you read through this indictment, there is just so much evidence between the training of the paramilitary exercises, the tactical gear the group wore, and then all of these planning texts that were before it. >> right, and that's the concept of conspiracy, right? it's the meeting of the minds of one or more people to agree to commit a crime, even if the crime isn't actually carried out. we heard a lot of discussion of this around the first trump impeachment, if you recall, is it conspiracy or collusion? this is the real deal. and i think it also underscores the violence, where we had been gaslighted as a nation around what actually happened january 6, even people like mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy, who afterward denounced the president, are now backing the president and asking kevin mccarthy to participate in the lawful exercise of getting to the bottom of that. i think honestly, alisyn, the big question is were others on the signature text besides these oathkeepers who have been charged today. the fact that he said he's willing to go all the way to the top, and i'm paraphrasing, does not bode well for inside government for validation of their participation or at least refusal to stop the carnage that happened on january 6. >> let's go to josh campbell, former supervisory agent with the fbi. the details in this, josh, says much about how much they have in this case and the likelihood there is someone on the inside here who is helping them in this investigation. >> well, these cases are very complex. we're talking about a conspiracy, and of course we've seen over 700 people charged in the capitol riot, many of them the so-called low-hanging fruit, the people who were there taking selfies and boasting about what they were doing. this is different. this is now the fbi and justice department saying this was a seditious conspiracy. they just weren't there as tourists, as we've heard some politicians say, but they were there to engage in an unlawful act to try to stop the counting of those votes. and because these investigations are so complex, that requires time. people have been impatient saying where is the justice department? now we're starting to see the results of some of their work. as alisyn was just mentioning, the level of planning and preparation that went into this is so key, and you see that as you read through these court documents, where people didn't just show up on that day and wander into the capitol, but there was that level of combat training in advance, that they were willing to use force, preparing to bring firearms into the district of columbia, and even as striking as the moment the breach happened at the capitol, what these court records show is that while some of the rioters went into the building, this group of oathkeepers were forming what's called a stack. that's a line of one in front of the other, similar to law enforcement or the military preparing to make dynamic entry into the building. that's what these oathkeepers were allegedly doing as they made their way to the capitol and reached the building. the allegation is they had weapons such as knives and batons, and one of the other striking things, they allegedly had this cache of weapons waiting outside the district of columbia that they could draw upon to come and help them should they need it. all of this is allegations of planning, what you don't see from people who are there just as tourists. finally, if you are a member of the oathkeepers, you probably should be worried. as you mentioned, victor, of possible inside help. when you talk about encrypted messages making their way into the hands of law enforcement officers, we can assume that law enforcement got members to provide information or they have confidential human resources they are now running themselves into these groups. a level of complexity, but again, very serious charges by the justice department. >> let's go to julia now. what do you think of these charges? >> a lot of it had to do with january 6 of last year, but i want to talk about the january 6's to come. there could be no better news from the perspective of counter-radicalization, counterviolence than to have charges like this against this group. we'll talk about the past and what they say about the planning. organizations like this, violent organizations, because we really have to focus on the violence. there's radicalization in our country, obviously, but we need to be really focused on those who would turn to violence for political gain. it breeds off success, and they got that a lot in the previous administration with donald trump sort of neurturing these kinds f groups. they are dismantling in the last year culminating in these charges. it does a lot for stopping the kind of recruitment they found easy during the previous administration and threatened to nourish if it wasn't dismantled. so from the counterradicalization perspective, this also has a lot to do with 2022, 2023 and 2024. it doesn't mean it's all kum-ba-ya now, but any concerns about the groups becoming bigger, this does a lot to end the aura of success or that they're part of a winning team. they will act like victims, that's fine. but it's going to be hard to get new people to be interested, to be curious, even, about groups like this. >> kim, how does this evidence stack up against the challenge they have proving these charges in court? >> if the justice department has made the decision for this indictment, particularly given how merrick garland has taken quite a bit of heat for what people perceive as delays in bringing these larger charges, i imagine they have all their ducks in a row and they're pretty confident they can win a verdict in favor beyond a reasonable doubt, and it's also important to point out these investigations take time, the fbi are putting out thousands of search warrants, et cetera, and we're just at the beginning, is my guess. it will continue unfolding leading up to the midterms, frankly, to determine the fate of democracy moving forward, and i agree with the comments before 100%, that it's the future that matters in this moment as much as the past. let's turn to a split over the vaccine mandates. the president wants it mandated for large businesses but also for health workers nationwide. >> we have jessica and john biskupic. >> this is a much bigger loss than win. that's because the first of these mandates were supposed to go into effect in february for 80 million workers who were part of employees of 100 or more. that was blocked. this came down to a decision with liberals relenting, the justice department explaining that while osha can overrule occupational hazards in the workplace, they really can't implement these rules that go to a much bigger, broader public policy aspect. so that is why this is blocked. of course, the liberals say they can't believe it has not gone into effect given the perilous covid crisis this country continues to face. on the other side, there is a mandate that will be allowed to go into effect. this only affects about 10 million health care workers. this is being allowed by the supreme court. this is a 6-3 decision with justice kavanaugh as well as chief justice john roberts joining with the liberals to allow this health care mandate to go into effect. i'll read you the line from the majority. it says, of course, the vaccine mandate goes further than what the health and human services secretary has done in the past to implement infection control. but he has never had to address an infection problem of this scale and scope before. in any event, there can be no doubt that addressing infection problems in medicare and medicaid facilities is what he does. this is a mandate that goes into effect for health care workers who work at facilities that receive federal funding through medicaid and medicare, and that is why the supreme court is giving this a green light saying it's different than that other mandate, saying the other mandate, osha doesn't have the broad power as an agency to put this into effect. guys, a little bit of a split verdict, if you will, for the biden administration, but definitely a much bigger loss because they wanted this mandate with employers to go into effect of 80,000 workers. >> joan biskupic, 6-3 on both of these. where do you see the justice landed on this? >> sun is 6-3, one is 7-4. there was a division among the conservatives in the majority that the unsigned opinion that stood for the court looked fairly narrowly at this rule, looking at what osha was trying to do here in the workplace and specifically addressing the requirement for a vaccine or testing. as i said, narrowly look being at that. but there was a very muscular concurrence written by justices thomas and leto which would have gone far for the justices' power. i think the justices tried to get on the conservative side some power there. but the other one that involved health care workers at medicaid and medicare facilities, that was justice thomas, aledo, barrett and gorsuch, and the thing i want to point out is that the chief justice brett kavanaugh went with the three liberals to form a 5-4 majority. i think what we saw on that one, which is tied to the spending power of the health and human services secretary and the ability to set conservatives, but four of them splitting off and being more aggressive in trying to curtail the power of the federal government. >> elie, help us understand if there was anything surprising here we should take note of. also, does this mean they can institute that same mandate if they choose, but they do not have to follow a mandate from the biden administration? >> on your second question, alisyn, that's exactly right. private employers can choose to have a vaccine mandate, they can choose to have a vaccine or test mandate, but what the supreme court said today was the federal government cannot force them to do that. i think this tells us something really important about the overall orientation about the new supreme court as it regards federal power. so the key distinction here, first of all, is that the supreme court was uneasy with the bigger mandate, the vaccine test mandate that occurred for all employees across the whole country. they said that's troo broad and congress has not authorized you for this. the workers' mandate, they said that is more narrow, more targeted, done under the spending power. traditionally, they have been skeptical of power coming out of the agencies we have a 6-3 supreme court. we'll see if it holds when it comes time for conservative policies that the judge perhaps likes more, but that's the judgment we're seeing here. >> elie hoenig, jessica schneider and kim wehle, thank you. so if biden can't get an agreement for voting rights, what does president biden do? 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>> thank you so much for having me. the request for debunking misinformation is a common ask throughout the pandemic. there is a ton of disinformation and misinformation surrounding covid-19 as a virus, covid-19 vaccines and the data. i wasn't surprised i was getting a deluge of inquiries about this particular episode which, unfortunately, has gone viral and is filled with pretty regularly debunked misinformation. what was most concerning to me, though, and made me respond was the fact i was noticing a trend from people i found to be quite discerning and able to distinguish what's true and not true following the sharing of that particular episode. >> what i find interesting is you're not asking spotify to take down the episode or to cancel joe rogan, you're asking them to create a policy. so what are you looking for here? >> correct. and i think that has somehow gotten completely misconstrued by a lot of joe rogan fans, by a lot of people who are very sensitive to anything that maybe looks like censureship. we're asking for policies and reinforcement of that policy because it is an enormous platform. that particular show has an enormous following and i think there is a responsibility for media companies to at least provide warnings when things are very easily refuted through data and information, not opinion, and people should be warned about what the content they're about to listen to is. >> if you were to craft this policy, what would you need to see? >> i think at the very least, it would be banners and warnings posted about that policy. it would be directing people to credible sources like the cdc and w.h.o. on vaccine-related information or other sources of evidence since there seems to be a ton of speculation happening on these shows, and people take it as infallible, people take it as the other side of science when really there is a ton of consensus here to prove that that information is actually incorrect. at the minimum, banners and warnings. >> joe rogan so significant here because it's the most listened-to podcast in the world. millions of people listen to each episode. have you heard anything, quickly, from spotify? >> no, we have not. i have not personally. >> we reached out to spotify, we reached out to joe rogan. we have not heard anything but i want to read to you the statement spotify released back in april after joe rogan said he would advise a 21-year-old against getting vaccinated. they said, spotify prohibits content on the platform which promotes dangerous, false, deceptive or misleading content about covid-19 that may cause offline harm and/or poses a direct threat to public health. when content that violates this standard is identified it is removed from the platform. is that not enough? >> i know you removed that podcast but podcast is still available on spotify, and that is a problem. it is clearly a policy that exists but is not enforced. we're asking for policies to be enforced that do cause the public harm and do spread misinformation. >> jessica malaty rivera, thank you for your time. >> thanks for having me. president biden tried to get two voting rights bills through congress, but after the meeting, he was not success fortunately. >> the honest to god answer is i don't know if we can get this done. we missed this time and the state legislative bodies continue to change the law not as to who can vote but who gets to count the vote. count the vote. count the vote! it's about election subversion, not just whether or not people get to vote. who counts the vote. that's what makes this so different than anything else we've ever done. i don't know how we get it done but i know one thing. as long as i have a breath in me, as long as i'm in the white house, as long as i'm engaged at all, i'm going to be fighting to change the way these legi legislatures are moving. >> back to you. >> manu raju, abby phillip joins us now. it's hard to do it in separate rooms. abby phillip with us as well. let's start with you, manu. take us inside the room. >> the president did speak at length about his desire to pass these two bills, and his concerns that democracy is at risk, and trying to convince his members to come along. but there is a problem. he simply does not have the votes to do what he wants to do. if they just were going over the current regular order, they would need 60 votes to overcome a republican filibuster. that does not exist. there is zero support for this measure they're trying to get through. there's been a pressure campaign on kyrsten sinema, on joe manchin for months, trying to get them to change the senate rules to pass along straight party lines. sinema came out very forcefully saying she still supports maintaining that 60-vote threshold, concerned that undercutting that would have drastic ramifications on the senate itself. manchin told me moments ago, he said his position has not changed at all. he said, everybody knows where i stand. he did not praise the president's appearance. it was not contentious. but i am told he did not address the room. a number of senators are concerned and frustrated that she came out and officially put the nail in the coffin before biden himself came to capitol hill. just moments ago i tried to ask sinema why the timing of her speech, why she gave that speech before biden even came to the hill. she would not engage on that question at all, but there is definitely some frustration. one senator from new mexico told me -- i said, quote, i'm very frustrated right now and the reason is pretty simple. the biden agenda is simply stalled on many fronts, the build back better bill, it's a question of what can be done before the election, and it appears not a whole lot. >> manu has done a great job of telling what the process seems to be, but what about substance? do we know if senators manchin and sinema are as concerned as president biden seems to be when he kept sounding the alarm when he says, this is about who counts the vote, this is about people being installed in election oversight positions. are they as worried about that? >> well, i think that manchin and sinema would say that they are but their actions seem to indicate that they do not believe that those concerns override their concerns about the process long term, and look, democrats are really angry about this, but you do have to take into consideration that one of the concerns is obviously that if you pass voting -- you know, if you pass voting legislation in a democratic administration to expand voting rights without a 60-vote margin, when republicans take over the senate, they could reverse that just as easily. i think that's part of the concern here. i do think, though, we should read between the lines of what biden was saying to get a sense of where the next move might be. he was talking about who counts the votes. that is a slightly different thing that some of the pieces of policy that are in the legislation that we've been talking about. who counts the votes is also about the process by which some of these republicans who are trying to push the january 6 lie are being installed in positions in the states. that's one of the reasons some people are saying, let's focus on the electoral count act, let's focus even on the john lewis voting rights bill and try to find something around those things. they are starting to be skeptical that republicans won't engage, but that could be the concerns for the next cycle. >> build back better is in the mud. we've seen what happened today with voting rights, and locking the president's mandate on vaccine or testing for large companies. have we heard anything from the white house on that decision, and where does the administration go from here? >> on that, probably not the best day the white house has had when you look across the board at their key priorities. they were bracing for the decision of the vaccine mandate, they could listen to the chief justices on the floor like anybody else could when this was actually heard in the court. i don't think white house officials were not only aware this was likely, but they viewed those 17 million individuals dealing with the vulnerable people, they see that as a positive thing. we also talk to white house officials and they're keenly aware there's been an increase in vaccinations since they attempted to put the mandates in place. they don't belief this will stop large employers from deciding to do it on their own, so they're hoping that will continue, large employees will continue to pursue it. the president earlier this week was pointing out united airlines which put a mandate in place. 95% have complied with it and the deaths in the company have gone down to zero from once a week since that mandate was put in place. i hope that will help as well, but one thing you see in the weeks ahead, if you look at the data and omicron, the fact those people are not vaccinated and they're not dying at the rates before. it's a sharper contrast that white house officials have been considering going into over the course of the next several weeks just with the value vaccines bring in this omicron surge. obviously they wanted to win this. they thought when they introduced this mandate that they were on solid legal footing. the supreme court today said they were not. >> manu, back to capitol hill's next steps. what are the priorities? if voting rights isn't going anywhere, if build back better, as victor just said, is stuck in the mud, what's next? >> a basic housekeeping of government. they have to avoid a government shutdown by february 18th. but the big ticket items on the agenda, there's just simply no path for that. when i talked to manchin about ten minutes before coming on air here, i said, have you had any discussions on the build back better bill? he said, i have had nothing since late december. that was, of course, when he essentially put the brakes on that bill. he wants significant changes. so even getting him on board would take weeks and weeks and weeks, and then they have to get the whole democratic caucus in line. it's uncertain if they can even get to that point. what else is left? possibly smaller changes to voting laws, mainly the electoral notification act, the 1887 law that talks about how votes are certified. then-president trump tried to get vice president pence to throw out electoral votes. there is talk of typing that up to keep the president from discarding the votes from various states. there are smaller, narrower issues where perhaps they can get some agreement, but the big ticket items are essentially out the window, and everything capitol hill for as long as i have, there is one thing very clear. when it's election year, or particularly close to an election, big deals almost impossible to achieve and they worry about their campaigns and their seats back home, so we'll see probably congress move to pretty aggressive campaign footing pretty soon in the coming weeks. >> manu raju for us on capitol hill, phil mattingly at the white house, abby phillip, thank you. now to this. 2021 saw the highest number of law enforcement officers intentionally killed in the line of duty since 9/11. so what's behind this? 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"the lead" starts right now. breaking news. the department of justice has arrested and charged the head of the far right oathkeepers. the leader of the far right extremist group is charged with seditious conspiracy to use force to undermine the election and he is not alone. there is breaking news from the u.s. supreme court this afternoon. the biden administration's nationwide vaccine and testing mandate for big businesses has been blocked but may still be lo

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at helpfosterchildren.com it is the top of a very busy hour. i'm alisyn camerota. >> i'm victor blackwell. it is a major breaking news day. first this new indictment in the january 6 investigation reveals how one far right group prepared for potential violence. the justice department has charged 11 defendants with seditious conspiracy. meantime the supreme court has blocked president trump's testing mandate for large businesses, but it allows vaccine mandates for health care workers to take effect. >> and this after biden's agenda took another blow on capitol hill, congresswoman sinema has put a stop to the vote. u.s. attorney kim wheeling, josh campbell and analyst el elie hoenig. tell us about this. >> this is a major step the department has taken. we've seen this from the ground up. what we have now is charges against stuart rose, who is a founder of the oathkeepers, a far right anti-government association, and ten others who are now charged with seditious conspiracy. part of what the government is alleging here is that essentially they carried out a paramilitary plan, essentially, that was an effort to prevent, hinder and delay the certification of the electoral college vote on january 6. how did they do that, according to prosecutors? they organized paramilitary training and tactics for some of the members who were there on that day. there were a total of 19 people so far affiliated with this group that have faced charges so far in federal court. they brought paramilitary gear, knives, camouflage uniforms, tactical weapons that they were ready to deploy that day. they even organized what, according to prosecutors, was a quick reaction force just across the river in virginia which the goal was to try to reinforce the group that first attacked the capitol. according to prosecutors, this is not just -- what this tells us is this was not just a spontaneous riot, which is what some of the people have been trying to minimize what happened on january 6 as. i'll read you a couple parts of this indictment where, on december 11, according to prosecutors, there was a signal encrypted-out message that was being communicated by these groups, and stuart rhodes says, quote, it will be a bloody fight. we will have a fight, that cannot be avoided. that is a quote from the indictment. and according to this, it is reaction to president biden on another one. on another one leader rhodes says, quote, we will have to do a massively bloody revolution against him. that is what's going to have to happen. that is a reference to the idea that on january 20, president biden is going to assume office, something they said they would never accept. alisyn and victor? >> elie, let's go to you next. more than 700 people have been arrested as part of this investigation, but these charges of seditious conspiracy are a first. explain what is this charge of seditious conspiracy. >> victor, this is really a powerful statement by the justice department. the term sedition, obviously it's a powerful sort of loaded term, but it's important that people understand what is and isn't charged here. there are various forms of seditious in the federal law. one of them is to try to overthrow the government by force. that is not what is charged in this indictment. another definition of sedition, which is charged here, is an effort to obstruct a governmental fucnction, as evan just said, here that includes the electoral counting of the votes. there are 11 people charged with conspiracy here. there could be more charges of conspiracy which is an agreement by one or more people to break the law. one thing that jumps out at me in this indictment is the root e motivating factor behind all of this according to the indictment is the big lie, the big lie of election fraud. that is what spurred the oathkeepers, according to doj, to attack the capitol, and i think that's really important to keep in mind when you hear some of the revisionist history that started to crop up around january 6. >> and another thing that jumped out at me is how far in advance before january 6 that this planning was. as evan just read, that text to the group chat, the invitation only signal group, that said if president-elect biden were to assume the presidency, it will be a bloody fight. that was on december 11. again, as we all know, the idea this was a spontaneous riot, if you read through this indictment, there is just so much evidence between the training of the paramilitary exercises, the tactical gear the group wore, and then all of these planning texts that were before it. >> right, and that's the concept of conspiracy, right? it's the meeting of the minds of one or more people to agree to commit a crime, even if the crime isn't actually carried out. we heard a lot of discussion of this around the first trump impeachment, if you recall, is it conspiracy or collusion? this is the real deal. and i think it also underscores the violence, where we had been gaslighted as a nation around what actually happened january 6, even people like mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy, who afterward denounced the president, are now backing the president and asking kevin mccarthy to participate in the lawful exercise of getting to the bottom of that. i think honestly, alisyn, the big question is were others on the signature text besides these oathkeepers who have been charged today. the fact that he said he's willing to go all the way to the top, and i'm paraphrasing, does not bode well for inside government for validation of their participation or at least refusal to stop the carnage that happened on january 6. >> let's go to josh campbell, former supervisory agent with the fbi. the details in this, josh, says much about how much they have in this case and the likelihood there is someone on the inside here who is helping them in this investigation. >> well, these cases are very complex. we're talking about a conspiracy, and of course we've seen over 700 people charged in the capitol riot, many of them the so-called low-hanging fruit, the people who were there taking selfies and boasting about what they were doing. this is different. this is now the fbi and justice department saying this was a seditious conspiracy. they just weren't there as tourists, as we've heard some politicians say, but they were there to engage in an unlawful act to try to stop the counting of those votes. and because these investigations are so complex, that requires time. people have been impatient saying where is the justice department? now we're starting to see the results of some of their work. as alisyn was just mentioning, the level of planning and preparation that went into this is so key, and you see that as you read through these court documents, where people didn't just show up on that day and wander into the capitol, but there was that level of combat training in advance, that they were willing to use force, preparing to bring firearms into the district of columbia, and even as striking as the moment the breach happened at the capitol, what these court records show is that while some of the rioters went into the building, this group of oathkeepers were forming what's called a stack. that's a line of one in front of the other, similar to law enforcement or the military preparing to make dynamic entry into the building. that's what these oathkeepers were allegedly doing as they made their way to the capitol and reached the building. the allegation is they had weapons such as knives and batons, and one of the other striking things, they allegedly had this cache of weapons waiting outside the district of columbia that they could draw upon to come and help them should they need it. all of this is allegations of planning, what you don't see from people who are there just as tourists. finally, if you are a member of the oathkeepers, you probably should be worried. as you mentioned, victor, of possible inside help. when you talk about encrypted messages making their way into the hands of law enforcement officers, we can assume that law enforcement got members to provide information or they have confidential human resources they are now running themselves into these groups. a level of complexity, but again, very serious charges by the justice department. >> let's go to julia now. what do you think of these charges? >> a lot of it had to do with january 6 of last year, but i want to talk about the january 6's to come. there could be no better news from the perspective of counter-radicalization, counterviolence than to have charges like this against this group. we'll talk about the past and what they say about the planning. organizations like this, violent organizations, because we really have to focus on the violence. there's radicalization in our country, obviously, but we need to be really focused on those who would turn to violence for political gain. it breeds off success, and they got that a lot in the previous administration with donald trump sort of neurturing these kinds f groups. they are dismantling in the last year culminating in these charges. it does a lot for stopping the kind of recruitment they found easy during the previous administration and threatened to nourish if it wasn't dismantled. so from the counterradicalization perspective, this also has a lot to do with 2022, 2023 and 2024. it doesn't mean it's all kum-ba-ya now, but any concerns about the groups becoming bigger, this does a lot to end the aura of success or that they're part of a winning team. they will act like victims, that's fine. but it's going to be hard to get new people to be interested, to be curious, even, about groups like this. >> kim, how does this evidence stack up against the challenge they have proving these charges in court? >> if the justice department has made the decision for this indictment, particularly given how merrick garland has taken quite a bit of heat for what people perceive as delays in bringing these larger charges, i imagine they have all their ducks in a row and they're pretty confident they can win a verdict in favor beyond a reasonable doubt, and it's also important to point out these investigations take time, the fbi are putting out thousands of search warrants, et cetera, and we're just at the beginning, is my guess. it will continue unfolding leading up to the midterms, frankly, to determine the fate of democracy moving forward, and i agree with the comments before 100%, that it's the future that matters in this moment as much as the past. let's turn to a split over the vaccine mandates. the president wants it mandated for large businesses but also for health workers nationwide. >> we have jessica and john biskupic. >> this is a much bigger loss than win. that's because the first of these mandates were supposed to go into effect in february for 80 million workers who were part of employees of 100 or more. that was blocked. this came down to a decision with liberals relenting, the justice department explaining that while osha can overrule occupational hazards in the workplace, they really can't implement these rules that go to a much bigger, broader public policy aspect. so that is why this is blocked. of course, the liberals say they can't believe it has not gone into effect given the perilous covid crisis this country continues to face. on the other side, there is a mandate that will be allowed to go into effect. this only affects about 10 million health care workers. this is being allowed by the supreme court. this is a 6-3 decision with justice kavanaugh as well as chief justice john roberts joining with the liberals to allow this health care mandate to go into effect. i'll read you the line from the majority. it says, of course, the vaccine mandate goes further than what the health and human services secretary has done in the past to implement infection control. but he has never had to address an infection problem of this scale and scope before. in any event, there can be no doubt that addressing infection problems in medicare and medicaid facilities is what he does. this is a mandate that goes into effect for health care workers who work at facilities that receive federal funding through medicaid and medicare, and that is why the supreme court is giving this a green light saying it's different than that other mandate, saying the other mandate, osha doesn't have the broad power as an agency to put this into effect. guys, a little bit of a split verdict, if you will, for the biden administration, but definitely a much bigger loss because they wanted this mandate with employers to go into effect of 80,000 workers. >> joan biskupic, 6-3 on both of these. where do you see the justice landed on this? >> sun is 6-3, one is 7-4. there was a division among the conservatives in the majority that the unsigned opinion that stood for the court looked fairly narrowly at this rule, looking at what osha was trying to do here in the workplace and specifically addressing the requirement for a vaccine or testing. as i said, narrowly look being at that. but there was a very muscular concurrence written by justices thomas and leto which would have gone far for the justices' power. i think the justices tried to get on the conservative side some power there. but the other one that involved health care workers at medicaid and medicare facilities, that was justice thomas, aledo, barrett and gorsuch, and the thing i want to point out is that the chief justice brett kavanaugh went with the three liberals to form a 5-4 majority. i think what we saw on that one, which is tied to the spending power of the health and human services secretary and the ability to set conservatives, but four of them splitting off and being more aggressive in trying to curtail the power of the federal government. >> elie, help us understand if there was anything surprising here we should take note of. also, does this mean they can institute that same mandate if they choose, but they do not have to follow a mandate from the biden administration? >> on your second question, alisyn, that's exactly right. private employers can choose to have a vaccine mandate, they can choose to have a vaccine or test mandate, but what the supreme court said today was the federal government cannot force them to do that. i think this tells us something really important about the overall orientation about the new supreme court as it regards federal power. so the key distinction here, first of all, is that the supreme court was uneasy with the bigger mandate, the vaccine test mandate that occurred for all employees across the whole country. they said that's troo broad and congress has not authorized you for this. the workers' mandate, they said that is more narrow, more targeted, done under the spending power. traditionally, they have been skeptical of power coming out of the agencies we have a 6-3 supreme court. we'll see if it holds when it comes time for conservative policies that the judge perhaps likes more, but that's the judgment we're seeing here. >> elie hoenig, jessica schneider and kim wehle, thank you. so if biden can't get an agreement for voting rights, what does president biden do? 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>> thank you so much for having me. the request for debunking misinformation is a common ask throughout the pandemic. there is a ton of disinformation and misinformation surrounding covid-19 as a virus, covid-19 vaccines and the data. i wasn't surprised i was getting a deluge of inquiries about this particular episode which, unfortunately, has gone viral and is filled with pretty regularly debunked misinformation. what was most concerning to me, though, and made me respond was the fact i was noticing a trend from people i found to be quite discerning and able to distinguish what's true and not true following the sharing of that particular episode. >> what i find interesting is you're not asking spotify to take down the episode or to cancel joe rogan, you're asking them to create a policy. so what are you looking for here? >> correct. and i think that has somehow gotten completely misconstrued by a lot of joe rogan fans, by a lot of people who are very sensitive to anything that maybe looks like censureship. we're asking for policies and reinforcement of that policy because it is an enormous platform. that particular show has an enormous following and i think there is a responsibility for media companies to at least provide warnings when things are very easily refuted through data and information, not opinion, and people should be warned about what the content they're about to listen to is. >> if you were to craft this policy, what would you need to see? >> i think at the very least, it would be banners and warnings posted about that policy. it would be directing people to credible sources like the cdc and w.h.o. on vaccine-related information or other sources of evidence since there seems to be a ton of speculation happening on these shows, and people take it as infallible, people take it as the other side of science when really there is a ton of consensus here to prove that that information is actually incorrect. at the minimum, banners and warnings. >> joe rogan so significant here because it's the most listened-to podcast in the world. millions of people listen to each episode. have you heard anything, quickly, from spotify? >> no, we have not. i have not personally. >> we reached out to spotify, we reached out to joe rogan. we have not heard anything but i want to read to you the statement spotify released back in april after joe rogan said he would advise a 21-year-old against getting vaccinated. they said, spotify prohibits content on the platform which promotes dangerous, false, deceptive or misleading content about covid-19 that may cause offline harm and/or poses a direct threat to public health. when content that violates this standard is identified it is removed from the platform. is that not enough? >> i know you removed that podcast but podcast is still available on spotify, and that is a problem. it is clearly a policy that exists but is not enforced. we're asking for policies to be enforced that do cause the public harm and do spread misinformation. >> jessica malaty rivera, thank you for your time. >> thanks for having me. president biden tried to get two voting rights bills through congress, but after the meeting, he was not success fortunately. >> the honest to god answer is i don't know if we can get this done. we missed this time and the state legislative bodies continue to change the law not as to who can vote but who gets to count the vote. count the vote. count the vote! it's about election subversion, not just whether or not people get to vote. who counts the vote. that's what makes this so different than anything else we've ever done. i don't know how we get it done but i know one thing. as long as i have a breath in me, as long as i'm in the white house, as long as i'm engaged at all, i'm going to be fighting to change the way these legi legislatures are moving. >> back to you. >> manu raju, abby phillip joins us now. it's hard to do it in separate rooms. abby phillip with us as well. let's start with you, manu. take us inside the room. >> the president did speak at length about his desire to pass these two bills, and his concerns that democracy is at risk, and trying to convince his members to come along. but there is a problem. he simply does not have the votes to do what he wants to do. if they just were going over the current regular order, they would need 60 votes to overcome a republican filibuster. that does not exist. there is zero support for this measure they're trying to get through. there's been a pressure campaign on kyrsten sinema, on joe manchin for months, trying to get them to change the senate rules to pass along straight party lines. sinema came out very forcefully saying she still supports maintaining that 60-vote threshold, concerned that undercutting that would have drastic ramifications on the senate itself. manchin told me moments ago, he said his position has not changed at all. he said, everybody knows where i stand. he did not praise the president's appearance. it was not contentious. but i am told he did not address the room. a number of senators are concerned and frustrated that she came out and officially put the nail in the coffin before biden himself came to capitol hill. just moments ago i tried to ask sinema why the timing of her speech, why she gave that speech before biden even came to the hill. she would not engage on that question at all, but there is definitely some frustration. one senator from new mexico told me -- i said, quote, i'm very frustrated right now and the reason is pretty simple. the biden agenda is simply stalled on many fronts, the build back better bill, it's a question of what can be done before the election, and it appears not a whole lot. >> manu has done a great job of telling what the process seems to be, but what about substance? do we know if senators manchin and sinema are as concerned as president biden seems to be when he kept sounding the alarm when he says, this is about who counts the vote, this is about people being installed in election oversight positions. are they as worried about that? >> well, i think that manchin and sinema would say that they are but their actions seem to indicate that they do not believe that those concerns override their concerns about the process long term, and look, democrats are really angry about this, but you do have to take into consideration that one of the concerns is obviously that if you pass voting -- you know, if you pass voting legislation in a democratic administration to expand voting rights without a 60-vote margin, when republicans take over the senate, they could reverse that just as easily. i think that's part of the concern here. i do think, though, we should read between the lines of what biden was saying to get a sense of where the next move might be. he was talking about who counts the votes. that is a slightly different thing that some of the pieces of policy that are in the legislation that we've been talking about. who counts the votes is also about the process by which some of these republicans who are trying to push the january 6 lie are being installed in positions in the states. that's one of the reasons some people are saying, let's focus on the electoral count act, let's focus even on the john lewis voting rights bill and try to find something around those things. they are starting to be skeptical that republicans won't engage, but that could be the concerns for the next cycle. >> build back better is in the mud. we've seen what happened today with voting rights, and locking the president's mandate on vaccine or testing for large companies. have we heard anything from the white house on that decision, and where does the administration go from here? >> on that, probably not the best day the white house has had when you look across the board at their key priorities. they were bracing for the decision of the vaccine mandate, they could listen to the chief justices on the floor like anybody else could when this was actually heard in the court. i don't think white house officials were not only aware this was likely, but they viewed those 17 million individuals dealing with the vulnerable people, they see that as a positive thing. we also talk to white house officials and they're keenly aware there's been an increase in vaccinations since they attempted to put the mandates in place. they don't belief this will stop large employers from deciding to do it on their own, so they're hoping that will continue, large employees will continue to pursue it. the president earlier this week was pointing out united airlines which put a mandate in place. 95% have complied with it and the deaths in the company have gone down to zero from once a week since that mandate was put in place. i hope that will help as well, but one thing you see in the weeks ahead, if you look at the data and omicron, the fact those people are not vaccinated and they're not dying at the rates before. it's a sharper contrast that white house officials have been considering going into over the course of the next several weeks just with the value vaccines bring in this omicron surge. obviously they wanted to win this. they thought when they introduced this mandate that they were on solid legal footing. the supreme court today said they were not. >> manu, back to capitol hill's next steps. what are the priorities? if voting rights isn't going anywhere, if build back better, as victor just said, is stuck in the mud, what's next? >> a basic housekeeping of government. they have to avoid a government shutdown by february 18th. but the big ticket items on the agenda, there's just simply no path for that. when i talked to manchin about ten minutes before coming on air here, i said, have you had any discussions on the build back better bill? he said, i have had nothing since late december. that was, of course, when he essentially put the brakes on that bill. he wants significant changes. so even getting him on board would take weeks and weeks and weeks, and then they have to get the whole democratic caucus in line. it's uncertain if they can even get to that point. what else is left? possibly smaller changes to voting laws, mainly the electoral notification act, the 1887 law that talks about how votes are certified. then-president trump tried to get vice president pence to throw out electoral votes. there is talk of typing that up to keep the president from discarding the votes from various states. there are smaller, narrower issues where perhaps they can get some agreement, but the big ticket items are essentially out the window, and everything capitol hill for as long as i have, there is one thing very clear. when it's election year, or particularly close to an election, big deals almost impossible to achieve and they worry about their campaigns and their seats back home, so we'll see probably congress move to pretty aggressive campaign footing pretty soon in the coming weeks. >> manu raju for us on capitol hill, phil mattingly at the white house, abby phillip, thank you. now to this. 2021 saw the highest number of law enforcement officers intentionally killed in the line of duty since 9/11. so what's behind this? 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>> it's interesting because as you say some people are saying the queen acted way too late on this. this should have happened back with the disastrous bbc interview he did with the bbc. others say it is premature because he has not been found guilty. there is no doubt there are huge questions about how he handled all of this. how much sympathy he has expressed for epstein's victims. you didn't hear that very often. but dufrey and andrew do want it to go to trial or to the next phase which was potentially trial in september. lots of embarrassment for the monarchy to come. therefore i think the queen wanted to separate from that. >> okay. max foster, thank you. president biden is promising masks, tests, and military support to help battle the omicron surge as covid hospitalizations and cases hit record levels. much more on his plan just ahead. superpowers from a spider bite? i could use some help showing the world how liberty mutual customizes their car insurance so they only pay for what they need. 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