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down the economy as he toted the unemployment rate dropping to a new pandemic low. >> i hear republicans say today that my talking about this strong record shows that i don't understand, i don't understand a lot of people are still suffering they say. well, they are. or that i'm not focused on inflation. malaryk. t they voted against the legislation that made it happen. i refuse to let them stand in the way of this recovery and my focus is on keeping this recovery strong and durable, not with standing republican obstruction. >> the president taking on the gop on the economy as he is facing skeptical conservative justice on his, justices i should say on his covid plan and vaccine mandates for large businesses. that as the republican party seems to locked into a never ending game of how low can you go? is exhibit a. ted cruz. who is now trying to backtrack after getting caught doing something that seems to be a cardinal sin in today's gop, telling the truth. >> we are approaching a solum anniversary this week and it is an anniversary of a violent terrorist attack on the capitol where we saw the men and women of law enforcement demonstrate incredible courage, incredible bravery, risk their lives to defend the men and women who serve in this capitol. >> can you guess which part of that got the senator in trouble? >> of all the things january 6th was, it was definitely not a violent terrorist attack or insurrection. was it a riot? sure. it was not a violent terrorist attack so why are you telling us it was, ted cruz? >> it was a violent terrorist attack but ted cruz is so rattled from tucker carlson he asked to go on the fox propaganda network to go before carlson in a more pathetic display would be hard to imagine so i'll just play it for you. >> the way i phrased things yesterday was sloppy and frankly dumb. >> i don't buy that, whoa, whoa, i don't buy that. i known you a long time before you went to the senate. you were supreme court contender. you take words as serious as any man in the senate. i do not believe you used that accidently. i just don't. >> well, and there you have it. proof that the ol' saying that a broken clock is right twice a day. tucker carlson is right about one thing, that ted cruz wasn't being sloppy when he called january 6th a violent terrorist attack. it was. the fbi director called ate domestic terrorism and con congressional testimony and actually described the capitol riot as a terrorist attack as terrorists. repeatedly from the beginning. and ted cruz pa palooza goes on and on anon. >> i wasn't saying the thousands of peaceful protesters were not terrorists. i didn't say the millions of patriots across the country are terrorists. that's when a lot of people misunderstood. >> wait a second. hold on. what you just said doesn't make sense. [ laughter ] >> oh, boy. well, i wonder if the senator knew about that banner saying cruz cruising for a bruising, would you sign up for that? well, you would if you're ted cruz. but it's also the price that you have to pay now if you're a republican begging for forgiveness for speaking the truth. while the fox propaganda network is turning itself into a three ring circus of lies and cringing moments like that, the big news today was a georgia courtroom where three white men learned the price they have to pay for the murder of ahmaud arbery shot to death while jogging two years ago. travis mcmichael and his father gregory mcmichael were sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. william rodney bryan was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole and the judge's words were riveting including a moment rarely seen in the courtroom. more on that coming up. it was ahmaud arbery's grieving family putting a human face on the crime. ahmaud wasn't just a victim but a man they loved, a son, a brother. his sister jasmine addressing the court before sentencing. >> ahmaud had dark skin that glistened in the sunlight like gold. he had thick coilly hair he would often like to twist it. ahmaud had a broad nose and the color of his eyes was real with melon in it. he was tall with an athletic build. he enjoyed running and had an appreciation for being outdoors. these are the qualities that made these men assume that ahmaud was a dangerous criminal and chased him with guns drawn. to me, those qualities reflect that a young man full of life and energy who looked like me and the people i love. >> ahmaud arbery's mother wonda cooper jones speaking movingly about her son and responding to a defense attorney's attempt to insult his memory. >> he had a smile so bright it lit up a room. he never hesitated to tell me, his sister jasmine and his brother marcus that he loved us. and, your honor, we loved him back. he was messy. he sometimes refused to wear socks or take good care of his good clothing. i wish he would have cut and cleaned his toenails before he went out for that jog that day. i guess he would have if he knew he would be murdered. >> she also told the court the men convicted of murdering her son did not deserve lenleniency >> they chose to treat him differently than other people who frequently visited their community and when they couldn't sufficiently scare him or intimidate him, they killed him. >> joining me now, wonda cooper jones, ahmaud arbery's mother and the attorney for the family. thank you both for joining. appreciate it. >> thank you for having us. >> wonda, you know, nearly two years since your son's murder, what was it like to watch these sentences handed down today? >> it was very, very rewarding. today was the day my family and i prayed for almost two years ago and finally got our prayers answered. >> you know, the judge was scathing in his accessment of the mcmichaels zeroing in on the lack of remorse. >> it doesn't require an apology and quite honestly, apologies are made simply to get past problems, remorse is something that's felt and demonstrated. in this case, getting back to the video again, after ahmaud arbery fell, the mcmichaels turned their backs. >> even after they shot your son, they never admitted to making a mistake, never apologized. i know that stuck with you. >> it did. until this day, no one has ever apologized. >> do you want an apology from them? >> at this point, no, i don't. it really doesn't matter. today like i said was a very huge win. after he and travis' testimony during the trial, he tried to justify the moments that he decided to take ahmaud's life and really, if he gave an apology at this point it wouldn't be genuine at all. >> the judge also referred back to something you said. he talked about how closure and how sentencing doesn't generally provide closure, that it's more an exercise in accountability. that was a quote for him. what does closure look like for you? i don't know if that's even possible? >> i don't think my family and i will ever get closure because ahmaud is gone forever. we will get some sense of relief that we did get, a sense of relief today but as far as actual closure, closure, i don't think we'll ever get that. >> wonda, i wanted to ask you you addressed those by defense attorney laura hoge about his toenails. she referred to them as dirty. why did you decide to include that today? >> the day she chose to describe ahmaud's long dirty toenails in her closing arguments, which i thought was very, very rude. she never made mention when ahmaud was lying there with those dirty long toenails, ahmaud was laying there with a big hole in his chest where he was shot with that shotgun and she failed to mention that so i thought it was very, very important to reiterate what she shared in the closing arguments about his long toenails. >> people were shocked by and like why even -- i don't understand why she even went there but i thought that you doing it in your statement was quite appropriate to respond to that. lee, before the sentencing, the judge held a minute of silence. he explained why he did it. let's listen. >> that's approximately a minute. again, the chase that occurred in satilla shores occurred over a five-minute period. when i thought about this, i thought from a lot of different angle the and i kept coming back to the terror that must have been in the mind of the young man running through satilla shores. >> have you ever seen a judge do something like that? >> no, i have never seen a judge make that kind of demonstration and you know thanks one minute in court felt like an eternity. and if you think about it, what he was trying to impress upon all of us is just that for ahmaud, that five minutes must have felt like an eternity and that weighed heavy on his conscience when handing out these life sentences, and i think that's appropriate. >> these men are still facing federal hate crimes trial next month. the family rejected a plea deal to put them in federal prison for 30 years in addition to today's sentencing. the family rejected that, why? >> it took real courage for wanda and marcus to decide not to take the deal from the feds. number one, the hate crime charges will be very difficult to prove. because you have to get into the mind of someone and that is always a difficult task in court. but wanda made the decision we all came to that conclusion because, you know, the hate crime charges are just as important to us as these charges. we believe that the state would have the correct outcome today which was life without the possibility of parole for the mcmichaels and we wanted them to have their day in the court and to be forced to explain the motivation behind their actions and so that's why it was so important we reject that plea deal and allow things to play out in court. >> you are -- so you're -- are you satisfied with the outcome for rodney and also for the mcmichaels? >> yeah, i think the outcome was appropriate for all three defendants. each of these men will be serving at least 30 years in prison. william rodney bryan was as culpable without his invo involvement. ahmaud may have been able to get away that day but there was some reflection on his part after the fact that maybe what he did was the wrong thing and i tend to agree with what the court had to say about his involvement. >> you know, wanda, the way you talked about your son, he had a smile so bright it lit up a room. the way ahmaud's sister described him, dark skin that glistened in the sunlight are special tributes to ahmaud. anything else you'd like to say about him? >> ahmaud arbery was loved. and with the outcome today, ahmaud arbery is not just loved but will implement change. when you see the name of ahmaud arbery, you know it was changed. we held these three defendants accountable for the actions they took. >> yeah. do you know, lee, before i even met wanda, you know the whole thing with the videotape and trying to get it on and airing it and what have you, where do you think we'd be today meaning us who watched this trial and the family and you without that videotape? >> the video was the absolute lynch pin of accountability in this case. it's somewhat sad that for many family whose don't have the benefit of having this kind of video that would capture what happened, we rarely see justice in cases absent of video. we're approaching ten years since the murder of trayvon martin and we know his killer was acquitted. there was no video. that video evidence was key. >> yeah. thank you both. be well. >> thank you. president joe biden calling out republicans for talking down the economic recovery. is this a sign of how he'll deal with the gop from now on? . >> i refuse to let them stand in the way of this recovery and now, my focus is keeping this recovery strong and durable, not with standing republican obstruction nice m. and i just didn't feel well. but then i found clearchoice. 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>> i don't know how you talk about january 6th without talking about donald trump and everything that led to it. you know, don, those -- i don't defend in any way the people who went through the capitol that day but they weren't all proud boys and oath keepers. they were also, you know, average americans who became convinced by donald trump that somehow the election had been stolen and that it was their patriotic duty to protect democracy by doing what they did. he propagated this lie. he spread this lie. he used his authority with other republicans to draw them in and so he was the provocateur. it's important for biden. biden looked strong and rest lute and very passionate on thursday. that's the joe biden people need to see. you know, too often i think he has been a little bit laid back in his presentations and people need to see that kind of energy and that kind of resolve. so i think that's also part of the strategy now. >> yeah, i think his supporters want to see the people who put him into office, they want to see him as a fighter even over some of the just bipartisanship at all costs. listen, president biden is pivoting to voting rights now. he's giving a speech in atlanta on tuesday but without senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema on board with changes to the filibuster, any legislation is really dead in the water. no new tone is likely to change that. >> well, that is what is happening in public. he's going down and making speeches. there is an awful lot going on in private, a lot of conversations between manchin and colleagues and others, some of which have been reported, some of which haven't. i don't think they've had a breakthrough yet. you know, i texted with one senator involved today and he said well, hope springs eternal but nothing has changed so far but the -- you know, so we'll see. i mean, it could end up where some of these other issues have ended up but, you know, manchin has been, i mean, he when he met with reporters the other day did say he was deeply concerned about making sure that people who are eligible to vote have the opportunity to vote and that everyone's vote gets counted and of course, all of these things are being impeded by some legislation we've seen around the country. so, you know, he has laid a predicate for doing something. the question is what is he willing to do? you know, he clings to the notion that the filibuster has somehow promotes debate and promotes cooperation but, you know, we've seen that that is not the case and what it really does is it creates gridlock in the senate and it presents an image to the country that we can't move forward that even when a majority of americans support action, that action can't move forward because the filibuster is moved time and time and time again against majority views in this country. the u.s. senate was constructed and the contusion construncted the senate? such a way to protect minority rights, the rights of the minority views in this country but what we now have is it was to prevent a tyranny of the majority. time and time and time again, republican whose represent 41 million less, fewer americans than democrats do in the senate use the filibuster to thwart the public will, the majority will in this country. that's untenable. that doesn't help strengthen democracy. that doesn't help strengthen our institutions and hopefully at least on this issue, which is so fundamental senator manchin will come to that conclusion. >> well, we hope. we will see. david axelrod, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> good to see you, don, thanks. the first black man to win an oscar dying at the age of 94. spike lee is here to remember sidney poitier. >> i'm his son. i love you. i always have, and i always will. but you think of yourself as a colored man. i think of myself as a man. right now at cvs, get $10 in extrabucks rewards when you spend $30 on select wellness support products. with this offer, there's no room for excuses. 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[ laughter ] >> the guy in the movie. this is what -- >> yeah. >> in the scene. >> in the scene he was that. >> in the scene. >> but listen, i want to play -- >> i mean, that's when the handcuffs came off. >> that is the iconic moment for both of us. the iconic poitier moment. "in the heat of the night". >> was mr. colburt ever in this greenhouse last night abdoout midn midnight? >> you saw it. >> i saw it. >> what are you going to do about it? >> i don't know. i don't remember that. there was a time when i could have had you shot. >> don, 1967 i was 10 years old. >> i was 1. [ laughter ] >> and brother sidney gave it to him. i remember it like it was yesterday. black folks lost their mind. [ laughter ] >> look -- >> we never seen that before. ever. >> but it was reflex. that's exactly how people would react. he requested a script change to add that slap in the film. he even rewrote his contract to prohibit the movie studio from cutting that scene. that -- i mean, what did that slap -- i mean, we're laughing hear but that slap meant everything to black people. that was during really the height of the civil rights movement. >> the height of the civil rights movement and also, we're talking about hollywood. we never seen that before. we've been -- we were animals. we were less than human. you look at the history of our culture, going back to griffin, birth of a nation. so that was like the nuclear bomb went off. a slap, oh, you like this? a slap turned into a nuclear bomb. >> listen, your reaction seeing it, i haven't seen it in awhile, woo when you see it right? i want to talk about your tribute to him today. this is on instagram. you say am i the only one who has noticed that every day we're losing the game changers who have impacted our lives with their positive force and we're losing these giants when there is so much going on in the fight for voting rights, in the fights for civil rights, in the fights for human rights. >> well, we have to remember that sidney were the ones that got paul newman, james gardener, a bunch of hollywood, the right checks and marched with dr. king. it was sidneg fonte that got the white stars to join the movement. >> charles heston. >> he was there. >> i say -- >> james gardener. [ laughter ] >> paul newman was there. >> streetcar -- what's his name? >> brando was there. marlin. frank sinatra. >> sinatra. >> you're no stranger to balancing activism and film. i spoke to harry this summer, poitier and he set the standard for using celebrity, their celebrity to enact change and the sell celebrity of others. this is the 1963 march on washington. we'll have that picture up. we'll have celebrities lend themselves to this cause and these two gentlemen were the ones that did it as you said. amazing. >> yes, and we had -- they understood that just black folks out there, we had to show that we had a white brothers and sisters on with us walking, marching. >> don't we do that now with civil rights, with voting rights i should say? >> well, voting rights but if you saw, i mean with the brother george floyd, i saw -- you saw demonstrations around the world. that was relegated with the black folks so it's there. it's there. >> well, we need people to stand up for voting rights in this time so it would be nice to trkey from sidney but today this is dedicated the sidney poitier 94 years old. thank you, spike. keep doing what you do. appreciate you joining. that's his autobiography. hold it up. "this life sy sidney poitier" a spike lee. >> see you back in new york. >> yes, sir. >> peace. the january 6th committee not ruling out criminal charges and ask a former impeachment manager if he thinks there will actually be accountability this time. congressman joe nagoose is next. , the more questions we have. the biggest question now, what's next? what will covid bring in six months, a year? if you're feeling anxious about the future, you're not alone. calhope offers free covid-19 emotional support. call 833-317-4673, or live chat at calhope.org today. the chairman of the committee investigating january 6th are considering formally asking mike spence to speak with them voluntarily so chairman bennie thompson telling npr he expects that before the month is out. joining me is the house manager during donald trump's second impeachment. congressman, appreciate you joining. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me, don. >> this is the v.p. who had to evacuate the capitol and spent four years as a yes man to donald trump. do you think he's doing to be willing to cooperate or they will have to compel him to do it? >> that's a great question. i think it's an open question, don. i suspect he'll be unlikely to voluntarily cooperate but who knows and obviously, the chairman and the committee i think have good reason to talk to the vice president. he played a pivotal role in the events that day with respect to the certification and our ability to certify the election. one would hope given the way he was treated by the former trump administration, the threats made against him personally that day as we were gathered in the house chamber that he would be willing to step forward and choose country over party and participate in this proceeding but time will tell. >> leaders of the january 6th committee making it clear they will leave open record requests. >> january 6th itself was a line you can't cross. the committee is looking at that and whether what he did constitutes that kind of a crime but certainly, it's dereliction of duty. >> look, you've been here before, right? you were part of president trump's second impeachment. he escaped accountability twice in those investigations. do you think he'll actually be held accountable this time? >> again, don, that is an open question. as you know, he evaded accountability at the conclusion of the impeachment trial. the house charged him with constitutional offenses against the constitution including incitement. i thought we made a compelling case on the floor of the united states senate and i believe ultimately majority of the united states senate agreed and concurred in our conclusion. unfortunately, only switch republican senators were willing to choose country over party and follow their conscience and vote to convict the president so as you stated, he was able to avid accountability. the committee is considering based on the statements i heard from vice chair cheney and thompson potential criminal referrals particularly as it relates to perhaps the obstruction statute impeding an official proceeding that would be the electoral college certification. i'm not going to get in front of the committee. that will involve a number of complex legal questions that the committee is going to have to answer but i trust chairman thompson and his judgment and his ability to get to the bottom of the facts tomerican people and make the necessary decisions as the case may be warranted. >> i want to turn to the destructive fires in your home state of colorado. you were with president biden as he toured some of the devastation there today and i want to play some of what he said about it. >> this situation is a blinking code red for our nation because the combination of extreme drought, the driest period from june to december ever recorded, ever recorded. unusually high winds, no snow on the ground to start created a tinder box, literal tinder box. >> the president talked about rebuilding and recovering but how convinced are you in the change of climate or concerned should i say about the changing climate in this country and the subsequent weather that's been devastating to folks? >> i'm deeply concerned. first, let me say, don, what a difference it makes to have a kind empathetic president who gets it literally within seven days of this disaster in my community, the most destructive fire in colorado's history came to colorado. he sent his fema administratior who the governor hosted a few days ago and today we traveled with the president from washington here to colorado and had a chance to visit with him and ensure that he had the opportunity to visit with families impacted by the terrible marshall fire. literally, families, don, who lost everything in the fire, lost all belongings and home at a moment's notice to evacuate with nothing more than the clothes on their backs. the word the president used, i ca couldn't agree more, super charged. climate scientists warn ever w -- warned for many years this may be the new normal what may be happening for years to come. when you have incredibly dry conditions like we had in colorado coupled with hurricane winds upwards of 90 miles an hour a week ago, what results is a devastating fire that totalled, destroyed over 100 homes. countless families in my community, neighbors who are now working to rebuild and to recover. so i'm grateful to the president for his willingness to help us in the short term on disaster relief and the commitments he's made to me and my colleagues but grateful he's willing to show leadership with the fight against climate change and the time to acre it is now. we've witnessed it and have to get serious about fighting it congressman, thank you for your time. appreciate it. be well. >> thank you, don. the world's top tennis player now living in take this a detention center in australia? 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