and, your honor, we loved him back. he was messy. he sometimes refused to wear socks or take good care of his good clothing. i wish he would have cut and cleaned his toenails before he went out for that jog that day. i guess he would have if he knew he would be murdered. she also told the court the men convicted of murdering her son did not deserve lenleniency they chose to treat him differently than other people who frequently visited their community and when they couldn t sufficiently scare him or intimidate him, they killed him. joining me now, wonda cooper jones, ahmaud arbery s mother and the attorney for the family. thank you both for joining.