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who were with me in the chamber are all aiming their concerns at the white house and trump is doing nothing. and this is just one witness who is only giving us a very little amount of information, all the more reason to probe further. >> why does it matter? >> donald trump may be on the hook for criminal liability. it wasn't an accident that liz cheney laid out the elements of the offense of essentially not acting to save the congress while we're performing the electoral college count. there may be a criminal referral that could take place there. they have a lot more to learn in that regard. it also matters for history, to hold the president accountable, if he did indeed incite and aim the mob at the capitol and did nothing and it matters because january 6th, 2025, is not too far away. we're going to have to do this again. if we protect and harden the capitol against an attack like this again, we need to know what went wrong on january 6th, 2021. >> so possible crimes, and for history. both very important. i want to take them separately if i can. possible crimes. what crimes? >> impeding congress' ability to carry out an official act. obstruction of congress. that's a possible crime. still a lot more to learn. i hope the department of justice is also looking at this. this should not fall on congress. >> do you have any reason to believe the department of justice is looking at it? >> there have not been leaks. it may be a good thing. typically you hear about people going in for grand jury testimony. we haven't heard anything like that. >> do you personally see right now a reason for criminal referral? >> i see a reason to keep going and looking at, you know, everyone around donald trump and, again, they have said, donald trump is not off the table. and if people are going to say i'm not coming in, i'm taking the fifth, that also tells you i need to know, yes, that's a criminal -- >> the law that would need to be broken in this case would pertain specifically to what? would it pertain to keeping congress from certifying or reading the electoral college count? keeping that from happening is the law that was broken? >> yes, and whether by his action or inaction, and inaction really only can apply to him. he's the commander in chief. his dereliction of duty, not sending reinforcements, not sending the national guard, that would be inaction that would lead to the obstruction of congress. still early. >> do you need to prove that either the president or others had a role in getting people inside the capitol in order for it to be a crime? >> we have shown -- no. but we have shown in the second impeachment, this committee is showing that the president from about mid-december through his tweets, through his public statements, through $50 million in facebook ads, he incited, mobilized, aimed the mob at the capitol on that day when other speakers were talking about committing violence, the president said you have to fight like hell or you're not going to have a country. told them to go to the capitol and as we're learning now sat and did nothing when people were pleading for help because of lives being at risk. >> we certainly see the pleas coming in. repeatedly to mark meadows. we may not know exactly what mark meadows told donald trump because mark meadows won't testify. based on what you've seen in merrick garland, merrick garland seems to have his own set of considerations running the department of justice. what is your reasonable expectation, honestly, based on what you've seen of garland, for what he would do? >> i want him to be independent. he indicted steve bannon. that was an easy call. i hope he indicts or looks at the laws and the facts with mark meadows. that's his call. i'm not the prosecutor. it's his call. as it relates to donald trump, if there is evidence of obstruction of congress, i hope at least he gets a fair trial at the department of justice. what i fear though, john, i don't want just to sweep this under the rug because it is a former president and don't treat him any more harshly because he's donald trump, but don't do him any favors because he's a former president. >> you talk about history. these text messages, i was a little surprised by the detail that came in. so the last few days has been surprising to me. i was even more surprised yesterday to hear from the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell talk about what he's learned and how he feels about this process. listen. >> i do think we're all watching as you are what is unfolding on the house side. and it will be interesting to reveal all the participants who were involved. >> interesting to reveal all the participants who were involved. what do you hear there? >> well, he has concerns about people in his own caucus, josh hawley, ted cruz and others. by the way, mitch mcconnell had the opportunity to vote to convict. he walked away from that. he had the opportunity to join us and have a bicameral, bipartisan investigation in the january 6th. he walked away from that. all those people sending messages to the president, it is maddening to me. i sat in that chamber. i didn't send messages to mark meadows. i didn't send messages to the president. i sent a text message to my wife telling her good-bye because i didn't think reinforcements were coming and we ultimately because of the grace of god and the cops who fought like hell for us saved us. we were able to get out. that day could be repeated and that's why this is so important. >> congressman eric swalwell, nice it see you. have a happy holiday. >> you too. this morning the national institutes of health is expected to release the latest data on the vaccine efficacy against the omicron coronavirus variant. this is happening as both new york and california are reinstating mask mandates in indoor public settings for about a month beginning this week. cnn's elizabeth cohen is with us now on this. elizabeth? >> brianna, what we know about the omicron variant right now is that it is very transmissible. let's take a look at something that cdc director dr. rochelle walensky said yesterday. she said in some countries rates are doubling every two days in some countries. that's faster than delta. it seems like months ago we were talking -- it was months ago that we were talking about how fast delta was. now, thankfully with omicron, if you look at the south africa experience and other people's experience, people don't seem to get as sick. that obviously is a good thing. let's take a listen to dr. anthony fauci. >> whatever it is, the disease seems to be less severe. whether it is inherently less pathogenic as a virus, or whether there is more protection in the community. we're just going to have to see when it comes in the united states, and for sure, jim, it is going to be dominant in the united states given its doubling time. >> so we just heard dr. fauci say for sure omicron is going to be dominant in the united states. and, you know, in some ways you think who cares? it doesn't seem to make people as sick as delta or other variants. and here is the reason why we care. if this spreads far and wide as it seems like it will, it will reach people who are unable to fight it off. so there will be many, more people for whom it will be the case of the sniffles and no big deal, but it will reach people who are immune compromised, it will reach people who can't fight it off and that's one of the concerns going on here. brianna? >> we're all vectors, you know. that's what we have to remember. we're all part of the system. elizabeth, thank you so much. >> and on that note, this just in -- secretary of state antony blinken's trip to asia being cut short due to a member of the traveling press testing positive for coronavirus. instead of attending his meetings in thailand scheduled for tomorrow morning, blinken will make his way back to the united states speaking with thailand's foreign minister, speaking with thailand's foreign minister, he expressed his deep regret and invited him to washington. he already visited the uk, indonesia and malaysia on this international trip. >> i think this is what we're going to see, right? we're going to see people who are affected by this, it is affecting national security and foreign policy. so happening today, the biden administration is expected to publicly release a tranche of secret documents. these are documents that some historians and conspiracy theorists hope might shed light on the assassination of president john f. kennedy. cnn's katie bo lillis with us now on this story. what are the documents? what are we going to see here? >> yeah, so what are we expecting to learn today? i think the release of documents, the number of documents we're talking about today probably relatively small with a larger tranche expected scheduled for this day next year. these are documents that were meant to be released earlier this year, president biden delayed them because he wanted to put in place his own review process to go through concerns from national security agencies like the fbi, the cia who are worried that exposing this information was going to damage sources eiand methods. it is important to understand these documents, while they're meant to focus on the assassination, they have in fact covered a great deal of information related to sensitive intelligence activities during the height of the cold war. now, jfk-ologists, historians, congress members who are worried that not releasing this information is damaging in american faith and institutions, they're saying this is ridiculous. like, what sources and methods do we need to protect from the 1960s? intelligence agencies say, look, no, like, we are in fact genuinely worried about this, they're arguing to hold this back. it is possible that there is a cia agent, dating from the 190s still alive. but those familiar with this universe of documents, they will tell you that the chances that there is going to be a smoking gun in here that will change the official narrative, pretty small. >> so i think i might know the answer to this question, but, i mean, is this going to satisfy people who want to know what's going on here? >> yeah, it is a good question. look, trump released tens of thousands of these documents over the course of his presidency. so there is about 95% of the material from this bunch that is actually out there already. there are about 15,000 documents that have some redactions, and about 500 that are withheld entirely. we're told that is almost entirely tax return information to include lee harvey oswald's tax returns. are people going to be satisfied? probably not. we already have seen a prominent jfk researcher threaten to sue biden for not releasing all of this information today, claiming he's flouting congress. we do know from public polling that a majority of americans don't believe lee harvey oswald acted alone. is today's release going to change that? probably not. >> i think we should be able to see this. it has been so long and it seems there is damage done by waiting to release it even longer. >> the credibility question for serious people is the biggest concern here. >> katie, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> katie bo. your mother would be mad at me if i didn't -- so the d.c. attorney general says he plans to hold those accountable for the capital insurrection by bankrupting them. he's going to join us next. and donald trump says his own vice president is mortally wounded after refusing to help him overturn the election. does his party, do his voters agree? and pick your player. elon musk, senator elizabeth warren, escalating their battle over taxes. because you're forever connected by love... two touching center diamonds, representing the connection you share. forever connected. the perfect gift to give this holiday. exclusively at kay. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list event. snacking can mean that pieces get stuck under mike's denture. but super poligrip gives him a tight seal. to help block out food particles. so he can enjoy the game. super poligrip. instantly clear everyday congestion with vicks sinex saline. for fast drug free relief vicks sinex. instantly clear everyday congestion. and try vicks sinex children's saline. safe and gentle relief for children's noses. for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test. research shows people who take h-i-v treatment every day and get to and stay undetectable can no longer transmit h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems. do not take biktarvy if you take dofetilide or rifampin. tell your doctor about all the medicines and supplements you take, if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have kidney or liver problems, including hepatitis. if you have hepatitis b, do not stop taking biktarvy without talking to your doctor. common side effects were diarrhea, nausea, and headache. if you're living with hiv, keep loving who you are. and ask your doctor if biktarvy is right for you. 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>> right. this is what state lawmakers are really trying to get to the bottom of. this employee was then forced out of her job, she says, a few months after this meeting. she ended up filing an age discrimination suit against the state. but what was so interesting was that she could not answer a lot of the questions in this hearing yesterday about why she was forced out because under the settlement agreement she has a nondisparagement clause. and so she was not able to explain the reasons that she thinks she was forced out of her job. but a lot of lawmakers including kristi noem's new opponent, who is challenging her in the governor's race next year want that nondisparagement clause to be lifted for this former state employee so that she can really talk about what went on in this meeting, and whether noem had a role in forcing her out. so south dakota has very weak sunshine laws on accountability for lawmakers, so it is unclear whether we're ever really going to get all the details on this, but it cast a shadow over noem and her future ambitions potentially for the white house. >> yeah, if you can't get the answers to those questions, how can there be consequences for an elected official. that's something to consider. maeve, thank you for your reporting. appreciate it. >> thank you. here's what else to watch today. a top facebook executive says users are to blame for consuming and believing misinformation that is spread on the platform. listen. >> if your democracy can't tolerate the speech of people, i'm not sure what kind of democracy it is. the individual humans are the ones who choose to believe or not believe a thing. they're the ones who choose to share or not share a thing. i don't feel comfortable at all saying they don't get to have a voice. i don't agree with what they said. >> joining us now is the co-ceo of free press, jessica gonzalez. jessica, what did you think of what you heard there? >> you know, i think this is just another play out of the facebook pr playbook. deny, deny, deny. deny its platforms are causing any harm. deny that it has any control over the design of its systems that drive inflammatory and false content out to millions of people. deny that they're making decisions about content moderation every single day with impunity. sure, of course, people have the right to speak online. the government should not infringe upon that. but the truth is that facebook is amplifying lies and covid conspiracy theories to the tune of millions and millions of people per day. and they're doing that in a really targeted and strategic way. they are tracking our every move. they're collecting our personal and demographic data, and then they're driving content to us based on our perceived interests and vulnerabilities. so, you know, that includes covid conspiracies and this business model isn't just creepy. it is actually contributing to the death toll. so when i see this kind of comment and i know that as bad as this problem is in english, it is even worse in spanish and nonenglish languages, i'm really disappointed. we heard from frances haugen that facebook has all the tools and the resources to fix these targeted conspiracy theories. and that it just doesn't want to. so this cavalier attitude in the same week that we have hit 800,000 covid deaths in this country shows a real callous disinterest in facebook understanding and stemming its own role. sure, we can't control people, but facebook has a role that is separate and apart from that that is driving the flow of hate and lies across its platforms. they show no interest in stemming that. we have been calling on congress and the federal trade commission to take action. >> i think most important words you used there are contributing, amplifying and the distant disinterest and making it better. look, facebook will go to no ends it deny any responsibility for what is going on. but i do think occasionally that there is a risk at saying facebook's responsible for the fact that people want to believe lies. facebook's responsible for the fact that people have conspiracy theories that they are spreading. this kind of stuff was there before facebook and will be here after facebook. but you're saying facebook makes it worse. >> yeah. no doubt. and in fact, free press has been really, really active on protecting some of the liability protections for facebook that help it not have to be liable for every single thing that an individual user posts. what we're saying, though, is that facebook is responsible for its own actions. it is responsible for violating its privacy, it is responsible for using those privacy invasions to drive targeted conspiracy theories. and it knows how to disrupt these problems. it is choosing not to do so. so, sure, i'm not saying that it has to be responsible for every single person's decisions about how to behave on the platform, but there is a design element here that needs to be looked at more deeply, and i'm very concerned that -- about this attitude frankly that it is not responsible for anything at all. sure, conspiracy theories have always been around, right, like those of us who existed before the internet remember those. but the -- it is different the way they operate on the internet. it relies on the extraction of data and the targeting that facebook provides. >> jessica, thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you for having me. elon musk calls elizabeth warren senator karen. plus, president biden about to surpass his predecessor on a key milestone in reshaping the federal courts. and as it is about to welcome the city's new mayor, new york city police just did something historic. when our daughter and her kids moved in with us... our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. turns out it's mostly water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. 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>> there is no indication it is changing now. he's repeated the same thing over and over and over again throughout the course of this year. obviously the pressure campaign mounts from interest groups who are very focused on this, you saw raphael warnock, the georgia senator, trying to rib him a little bit and bring him along. but there has been no indication that there is any movement. so once again, joe manchin stands at the very center of the biden agenda. >> can we talk about what elizabeth warren and elon musk have been doing going back and forth kind of sparring? it started warren tweeted, let's change the rigged tax code so the person at the end of the year will pay taxes and stop freeloading off everyone else. musk tweeted stop projecting. please don't call the manager on me, senator karen. i think, look, we all know karen. i don't think senator warren is a karen. >> i don't think she fits. >> i don't know what he's talking about. what is your read on this. >> it is not a fight that elizabeth warren is afraid to have with elon musk. i'll say that. if you look at her entire career, a, and, b, look at the public perceptions on this, asking billionaires to pay more taxes is an unbelievably popular thing. like, it is across the board republicans, democrats, independents, they love that the very wealthy should pay more taxes. so i don't think this is a fight that elizabeth warren is afraid to have. but obviously elon musk just sort of going to the gutter there, you know, a little wbit f a sexist remark there to elizabeth warren, that is probably not something she's going tone gauge in all that mto engage in all that much. >> sources familiar with david chalian's thinking have said that he thinks one of the most interesting things was the former president donald trump talking about his vice president mike pence, his unwillingness to flout the constitution and basically hand him the election. this is what donald trump said out loud. >> i think mike has been very badly hurt by what took place with respect to january 6th. i think he's been -- i think he's been mortally wounded, frankly, because i see the reaction he's getting from people. >> david, why do sources familiar with david chalian's thinking think this is so notable? >> listen, we know there is no love lost here this year since january 6th between donald trump and mike pence. and trump has been out there sort of questioning, still smarting over the fact that pence didn't go through with his attempted coup plan that trump had depfvised for him that penc followed the constitutional order probably in terms of counting the electoral votes. what i find amazing about this, now donald trump is stepping up this game. he's trying to ensure mike pence doesn't have a political future in the republican party. he is, by saying he's mortally wounded, and by the way, trump's analysis, it could be right, there are few people who sort of understand where the base of the republican party is, than donald trump. so his analysis may be right that this may be too tough a bridge for mike pence to cross, with the modern day trump republican base in a potential 2024 republican primary. but donald trump's point here is to make sure he muddies up pence as much as possible should pence move forward with what many people expect to be a bid for the presidency. >> my sources are pretty good that you found that interesting. >> don't you? i think it is fascinating. >> definitely. >> i was not one of the sources. though i wish that i were. so, you know, david, when we think of reshaping of the courts, we think a lot about donald trump. because the impact he had on the supreme court. but it is really worth noting that biden is actually set to surpass trump in his first year when it comes to federal judicial nominees, which is -- that's significant. >> it is. we have seen so much. whether it is the election issues we have talked about, whether it was some of the immigration issues that have been such a hot button flashpoint in american politics, we have seen it all land in the courts time and again. it is notable that this was mission critical for donald trump. this is how he unified the pretrump conservative base to his movement. around the issue of judges. he put out that list of preapproved supreme court nominees should he get any vacancies. the fact that biden has been working a way to try to put his imprint on the federal judiciaries key, it doesn't get as much attention because there hasn't been a supreme court vacancy yet and donald trump had three of those. >> david chalian, great to see you. >> thanks, guys. good to see you. time for five things to know for your new day. first, house lawmakers voting to hold former trump white house chief of staff mark meadows in contempt for defying a subpoena from the committee investigating the january 6th capitol insurrection. it will be up to the department of justice to decide whether to pursue criminal charges. new data expected today about how effective vaccines are against the omicron variant, which is now doubling covid numbers in some countries every two days. so far research out of south africa adds to evidence that omicron sneaks past vaccines, but may cause milder symptoms. and president biden heads to kentucky this morning to survey the catastrophic damage from the series of tornadoes that killed at least 74 people in the state and displaced thousands, leaving more than 100 kentuckians still unaccounted for. overnight, congress voted to increase the debt ceiling by $2.5 trillion and extend it into 2023. lawmakers raced to avoid what would have been a catastrophic default ahead of a midweek deadline. congressman adam kinzinger was the only republican to break ranks and vote with democrats. she will be the first woman to lead the nypd in its 176-year history. chief of detectives keechant sewell was introduced as the new madam commissioner in queens just a few minutes ago, wearing blues, of course, runs in her family. her grandfather was a member of the force as well. and those are the 5 things to know for your "new day." more on these stories all day on cnn and cnn.com and don't forget to download the 5 things podcast every morning. go to cnn.com/5things and find it wherever you get your podcasts. qanon curious and lover of violent anime, paul gosar taking credit for something he voted against. a reality check next. and golden state warrior steph curry breaking an nba record. >> it's good! there it is! stephan curry! 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a socialist spending scheme for more critical funding? but gosar understands that he can vote no and still score the dough. he's far from the only congressman to take credit for a bill he tried to kill. take alabama congressman gary palmer, republican freedom caucus member who voted against the bipartisan infrastructure bill, called it recklessly expensive, and then promptly put out a press release touting its benefits back home saying funding the northern beltline has consistently been one of my top priorities, it will benefit the entire region and enhance economic development and employment opportunities. these are only a few blatant grading examples of this. i could add others, madison cawthorn, greg pence, or kevin mccarthy. after all, not a single republican voted for biden's american rescue plan. only 13 house republicans voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill and they caught massive flack for it from their colleagues. you might have thought they voted to investigate an insurrection. this is ridiculous. and yet it is the way we live now. kentucky democratic congressman john yarmuth didn't need much of a crystal ball when he predicted this in march. >> what we're all concerned about on our side is the republicans are all going to vote against this, and then they're going to show up at every ribbon cutting, every project that is funded out of this bill, and they're going to puff up their chest and take credit for all the great benefits coming to their citizens. >> the reason he could predict all this is because we have seen it before. like during the obama years, when republicans pursued a strategy of total obstruction during the fiscal crisis and one year after the passage of the recovery act, 70% of the house gop had taken credit for some kind of improvement in their home district. prompting washington monthly it call them highway hypocrites. but this is more than mere partisan hypocrisy, it is part of the zero sum game that stops people in congress from reasoning together in good faith. republicans after all only seem to care about deficits and debt when a democrat is president. they attack popular social spending bills as socialism run amok and turn around and take a victory lap at home when the money starts flowing in. it should not be too much to expect some constancy. if a bill benefits your constituents consistently with your principles, vote for it. there will always be trade-offs, folks, perfect never on the menu. but if you demonize a bill, then you can't credibleably turn around and take credit for it. at least not without getting called out. and that's your reality check. >> remember in high school, avalon, you would have a group project and, of course there is someone who does all the work and someone who does none of the work, but they all get the credit. >> that guy, yeah. >> that guy. you mean that guy. yes. all right, john, thanks. >> take care. >> i just call that efficient. in an emotional scene at madison square garden last night, golden state warriors superstar steph curry broke the nba record for most career three-pointers ever made. his teammates joined the celebration, while fans gave him a standing ovation. nice knicks fans had something to cheer about. hugs all around, first from his father, former nba player dell curry and then from the man who is now number two on the all time list, ray allen himself. can curry addressed it after the game. >> this is pretty special, man. >> i never want to call myself the greatest shooter until i got this record. so comfortable saying that now. >> people say who the greatest shooter of all time now. >> i got that, baby. >> look, he is. i had a chance to see the golden state warriors play in the nba finals in 2015. in your home stadium there out there. i have to tell you it was the most amazing thing i've ever seen. i've never seen anything like it, his shooting. >> i just like him personally. it is so much more fun when you see someone who, you know, achieves something so big and you actually like him. couldn't happen to a nicer goo i. >> he speaks very highly of you. >> thank you, john. appreciate it. up next, a man who lost his home to the kentucky tornadoes finding a moment of peace at his piano. ♪ f everything. ♪ this is how we shine... at zales. the diamond store. ho ho ho! not again. oh no. for the gifts you won't forget. the mercedes-benz winter event. as a professional bull-rider i'm used to taking chances. but when it comes to my insurance i don't. i use liberty mutual, they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. wooo, yeaa, woooooo and, by switching you could even save 665 dollars. hey tex, can someone else get a turn? 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