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let's begin with the breaking news on omicron. cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joins us now. elizabeth, this is significant here because the wording after three shots is not that this gives a little boost, right, but it increases immunity dramatically. how should folks at home take this news? >> jim, i think we should take this very seriously. of course, larger studies need to be done. what pfizer is announcing today, it jives very nicely with what south african doctors are finding when they take care of their vaccinated patients who get the omicron variant. the bottom line is that two shots really seems to do quite well, but three shots seems to do even better. let's take a look at more of the specific. what's been found so far is that two doses may not provide good protection against invection against omicron. in other words, you may still get omicron, but two doses does give significant protection against sive veer disease. i got that from speaking yesterday with alex seagal, the lead researcher on the south african study. a third dose may give morrow best protection. really, the messaging stays the same. first, get vaccinated. if you're more than six months from your second shot, get your booster. this also jives with what doctors in south africa are seeing. let's take a look at dr. angelique coats yay, the chair of the south african medical association. >> -- still protect against severe disease. as the disease patterns we're seeing are mild on these people that's been vaccinated. >> again, this is way better than people thought it might be. this is a variant with a lot of mutations. people feared the vaccines might not do much at all. it turns out they're actually doing, not perfectly, but they're doing pretty well. jim? >> certainly a lot better than not having the vaccine at all. elizabeth, thanks for breaking it down for us. also with us this morning, dr. carlos del rio, executive associate dean of emory university school of medicine in atlanta. as we've looked at what we've learned this morning, one of the things that stood out to me, we heard from the head of pfizer saying maybe we need to look at boosters coming a little sooner and also one of the doctors out of south africa who has been one of the first doctors to treat omicron patients, she said based on omicron infections she saw that perhaps three months instead of six would make more sense for a booster. do we have enough information yet where we should start talking about shifting that timeline? >> good morning, erica. no, i don't think we have enough information, but the information is emerging. i think also what's becoming pretty clear is maybe full immunization with these vaccines like the pfizer or moderna ma scene is not two doses, but three doses. rather than calling it a booster, it may be that being fully protected requires three doses. many doses we give at point zero, one month and six months. maybe somewhere between three and six months is the right time to take the third dose. irn readingly the data is pretty clear that the third dose is required to protect against strains like delta and now with omicron. >> the information we have right now is from pfizer, not from moderna or j&j. myself and a colleague have three doses of pfizer. which booster do you get. there's questions about whether it makes sense to mix vaccines in terms of protection. what's the answer? >> the answer is a little confusing. i think what we're learning over and over is at some point in time you need to get mrna vaccines. that's the best booster. if you got johnson & johnson, i don't think it makes a difference if you get boosted with pfizer or moderna, there's some data that maybe with moderna you get a little higher antibody response, but it's not that significant. at the end of the day, my response is get boosted and get boosted with what's available, either fieszer or moderna. >> take whatever you can get. that's the most important thing. remind us, too, we've been talking so much this morning about maybe fully vaccinated is three shots. that's not a bad thing, right? we're learning as we go. but for people who have two shots so far or even one shot of the j&j, what is their protection this morning? >> we're going to get more data from south africa. south africa, over 500,000 health care workers got immunized with j&j. they're giving a booster dose of j&j to those workers. we'll know more about their level of protection against omicron. the data i'm getting is that health care workers that have one dose of j&j are getting infected, but not getting sick, not endtion up in the hospital, not requiring oxygen when they get hospitalized. they're having very short hospital stays. it looks like even a single dose of j&j is protecting yourself against severe disease from omicron, not protecting you from infection. >> bottom line, get your booster. thank you. >> take care. coming up at the top of the hour, dr. anthony fauci joining cnn. he will be, of course, weighing in on the latest news about the vaccine's effectiveness and all things covid to be sure to join us for that. house speaker nancy pelosi has just turned down a chance to say if she supports efforts to publish congressman boebert. the colorado republican suggested more than once that ilhan omar, because she's a muslim, might be a terrorist. >> cnn's chief congressional correspondent manu raju joins us now from capitol hill. so drafting that resolution. will it get a vote, manu? >> reporter: it's really unclear at the moment. behind closed doors right now the issue came up. nancy pelosi complained she had been asked by reporters ab what will be done by lauren boebert. she said it's the republicans' issue, they need to discipline members. one democratic members came out and said, quote, nancy deflected. behind closed doors in private she has not said one way or the other how she'd move forward. xi indicated some level of concerned about going forward with punishment because it could elevate the stature of one of these republican members, potentially help their fund-raising is, i'm told, leery about continuing to go after what they consider outlandish behavior by republicans time and time again. but the reason why pelosi is in this position is because of the push by progressive democrats and because the house took unprecedented action earlier this year in punishing a member of the minority party. the first occurred with marjorie taylor greene, stripped of her assignments after past controversial remarks came to light. and also more recently stripping paul go sart, the republican from arizona after he tweeted the animated video showing him committing violence against alexandria ocasio-cortez and president biden. that led to a sewer sure and removed him from his committee assignments. boebert essentially equating omar to a terrorist is just as bad as the last two examples. why shouldn't the house move forward and punish her now. you can tell from our reporting the speaker is not there yet and says it's up to republican leaders to deal with it. the republican leader, kevin mccarthy has no plans to deal with it. this afternoon progressives calling on her to act. will she? that's going to be the question in the days ahead. >> we will be watching. those reporters may just keep asking questions, won't they manu. thank you. still to come, the house select committee investigating the january 6th riot, they have no choice but to advance criminal contempt proceedings against him given that meadows has decided to no longer cooperate with the committee. we'll take a closer look at the vat gee here. plus russian president vladimir putin sharing some details about his call with president biden. what he says his concerns are regarding ukraine. in his first television interview, president biden's new drug czar talks to cnn's sanjay gupta on his plans to tackle the ongoing opioid crisis plaguing this country. ...and dry, cracked skin. new gold bond advanced healing ointment. restore healthy skin, with no sticky feeling. gold bond. champion your skin. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get started today. ♪ say it's all right ♪ ♪ say it's all right, it's all right ♪ ♪ have a good time 'cause it's all right ♪ ♪ now listen to the beat ♪ ♪ kinda pat your feet ♪ ♪ it's all right ♪ ♪ have a good time 'cause it's all right ♪ ♪ oh, it's all right ♪ there's a different way to treat hiv. it's once-monthly injectable cabenuva. cabenuva is the only once-a-month, complete hiv treatment for adults who are undetectable. cabenuva helps keep me undetectable. it's two injections, given by a healthcare provider once a month. hiv pills aren't on my mind. i love being able to pick up and go. don't receive cabenuva if you're allergic to its ingredients or taking certain medicines, which may interact with cabenuva. serious side effects include allergic reactions post-injection reactions, liver problems,...and depression. if you have a rash and other allergic reaction symptoms, stop cabenuva and get medical help right away. tell your doctor if you have liver problems or mental health concerns, and if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, or considering pregnancy. some of the most common side effects include injection site reactions, fever, and tiredness. if you switch to cabenuva, attend all treatment appointments. with once-a-month cabenuva, i'm good to go. ask your doctor about once-monthly cabenuva. the hammerschteins are saving big holiday shopping at amazon. so now they're free to become... the handbell hammerschteins. ♪ just pure artistry. why hide your skin if dupixent has your moderate-to-severe eczema, or atopic dermatitis under control? 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>> reporter: we're learning what documents meadows has handed over to the committee. here are a couple of examples, reading right from the letter, he produced documents that apparently meadows agrees are relevant but not protected by executive privilege. that's going to come up in a very important way once i'm done getting through what he provided. he handed over a november 7th email discussing alternate slates of directors as part of a, quote, direct and collateral attack after the election. he's handed over a january 5th email regarding a 38-page power briefing titled election fraud, foreign interference and options for january 6th that was to be provided, quote, on the hill. among other things, a january 5th email about having the national guard on standby. this letter provides the most detail we have seen to date about what meadows have handed over in this trove of documents that he apparently thinks is available for the committee to review. here is why that's important, because he's at the same time saying he cannot appear for a deposition that was supposed to be right now because of these claims of executive privilege. so the committee is basically saying, look, you gave us all these documents. we'd like to ask you about them. now you won't come in because you say we're not respecting executive privilege? how do you square those two things? bennie thompson said we've given you enough lead time, you've given us documents we'd like to ask you about. you're refusing, so we must move forward with a criminal contempt charge. he now joins -- we talked about this earlier, this growing list of people that the committee is really trying to throw the book at by trying to charge them with criminal contempt. steve bannon was the first, he's going through the process first. jeffrey clark, the resolution has passed, but isn't past the house floor which is required. if there had been any question about how they're going to treat meadows, if they're giving him leniency, they are not. they're going forward with the criminal contempt charge. >> whitney, a january 65th emai about deploying the national guard for what? >> this letter does not say, but hopefully we'll get more of that. what is beneficial in my perspective as someone covering this is, once they start to move forward with these criminal contempt charges, we get a lot more information about what the committee knows. these long resolutions that the committee puts out, sometimes they're up to 20 pages or more. they detail very specifically their case against these people they're trying to refer for criminal contempt. it's certainly possible, jim and erica, we'll find out more from that email, maybe get a quote from it. the transparency is paramount here. we could learn more about that. >> we'll see. >> look forward to that. whitney, thank you. joining us to dig a little deeper, cnn senior legal analyst elie honig, former assistant district attorney for the city of new york. let's pick up where jim's question left off. it makes you perk up where you learn that one of the documents is a january 5th email about having the national guard on standby. the fact that was put into the letter is done on purpose. >> the question jim just asked, what's behind that communication, what was happening on january 5th. that's exactly what the committee would want to ask mark meadows. all those other revelations that whitney went through show communications about direct and collateral attacks on the election, communications about alternate slates of electors. that's the heart of what this committee is looking at. that shows why mark meadows's testimony is so important and why the committee is taking his failure to appear so seriously. >> we also have dana bash with us. because you've been doing some reporting on meadows emote investigation here, the timing of this is telling. it's only earlier this week meadows' book revealed things and then this happens. connected? >> it seems to me it is connected. i've been speaking to sources in trump's orbit who say one of the biggest things to look at is the fact that the former president is furious at mark meadows for putting out this book which was released this week. the timing could not be worse for mark meadows or more consequential for the committee because he -- my understanding in talking to at least one source just today, is that what meadows didn't really consider was how angry the former president would be about putting out all this information about the real deal about his health. i'm not really sure why or how meadows didn't anticipate that by putting everything out there, but apparently he didn't anticipate the former president getting as mad as he is and he is very mad. you have that anger. you have mark meadows saying that he's going to talk to the committee, also before that giving him these documents that are now at least -- there's bread crumbs in this letter which are really fascinating and saying never mind, i'm not going to come talk to you. it is about the former president saying you don't understand -- saying without saying, if you're in my world, i control your fate. that's kind of a quote from somebody i spoke with this morning, a paraphrase of how it it is in trump's world. >> trump in effect ordering meadows not to cooperate. >> i'm not sure if it was a direct order, but something that somebody like mark meadows understood to be the reality based on how mad the former president is about his book. >> even if it wasn't -- to your point, even if it's not a direct quote, we know that's how the former president communicates, right? we've been told that by michael cohen, by a number of people. you are made aware of not only where you stand but how the former president feels, what he wants done, that's communicated with you in some way. dana, you mentioned the crumbs in this letter. the other thing that's fascinating to me, elie, once we saw this reversal is we heard from meadows' attorney. he had been willing to play ball. he wrote about a lot of stuff in this book, but they were claiming, his lawyers, that it was the subpoenas for phone communications and for records that really just took it a step too far. how will all of that play out ultimately if he is held in criminal contempt, referred, as we move forward potentially with that process. the fact of what went before, how will that come into play, elie? >> dana's reporting explains a lot. remember it was about a week ago when meadows reached this tentative cooperation deal with the committee. now something has changed drastically. you can see meadows and his attorney trying to find some explanation for why they've gotten cold feet. what they said in a letter to the committee is we're really offended because you subpoenaed phone records and how dare you. this gets into intensely personal communications. that's nonsense. that's not what the phone records are. the committee doesn't get the content of communications. they get a list of what phone number called what phone number at what time of day and how long they were connected. it's the most fundamental, basic investigative tool out there. in terms of what happens next, the city has said it intends to move forward with contempt proceedings. all that congress can do is refer it to the justice department, doj and merrick garland make the decision of whether to bring criminal charges against mark meadows. i don't think that's going to be as easy a call as steve bannon was. >> dana, when you talk about implied pressure, it reminds me the statement in the midst of the ukraine scandal, bad things are going to happen to marie i don't know vich. non-specific but almost mob-like. some folks are cooperating. marc short, that's no small witness. are they getting what they need here even without the stonewalling? >> they're getting a lot. i mentioned the bread crumbs. i'm looking at the letter that wuft just released that whitney was reporting on. they had a 38-page powerpoint briefing made by somebody in the then white house titled election fraud, foreign interference and options for january 6th. it sounds as though they have a -- mark meadows voluntarily turned over a powerpoint presentation with a potential roadmap for overturning the election. we haven't seen the specifics, we don't know what it is. even that in and of itself is a really, really big deal for him to give that over. >> in particular, that mention of foreign interference. this based on reporting to this point, is based on a whole bunch of dcockamamy bs. talks about changing the ballots and chinese computers. the conspiracy theories were off the wall. >> they were off the wall. another thing that it says is talking about meadows producing documents that include a november 7, 2020 email discussing the appointment of an alternate slate of electors. again, this is an email from the then chief of staff to the president of the united states who just lost a free and fair election, talking in an email about an alternate slate of electors. i mean we're kind of numb to this, and we shouldn't be. that's huge. yes, they would like to talk to him. they would like to ask him questions, but even if they don't, just those things that bennie thompson put in this letter suggest that they have a lot more than maybe they even thought they would get, especially since he didn't claim executive privilege. he gave these documents to the committee voluntarily. >> erica, that's remarkable. >> it really is. i'm sitting here letion it all sink in. dana, you make such a great point. it's something we may talk amongst ourselves, jim and i do a lot, none of this is normal. we do need to continue to call it out and not be numb to it. elie, when we look at what we've learned in the last 10 to 15 minutes, is there something that jumps out at you. a lot of people would like to see some criminal charges here. the reality is what we're learning may not necessarily be criminal, but it is certainly not okay. >> let me start, first of all, looking at this from an investigative standpoint. these documents referenced in the letter, this is a gold mine for the committee. it's also worth keeping in mind, these were documents being kicked around by fringe players on the outside. this was a document produced and possessed by the chief of staff and by the president of the united states. we're going right to the heart of the matter with these mark meadows documents. the fact that he's had this change of heart after producing the documents i think is going to make his legal case a little dicier. the big question will merrick garland, will doj have the comm committee's back? will they support the committee if there's a contempt referral? it's different from bannon in two respects. one, steve bannon did not work in the executive branch at the time of his communications. mark meadows was the chief of staff for the white house. bannon put up a straight up stop sign, red light, saying i'm not giving you anything. here meadows will say i gave you significant documents, these are important documents which sort of cuts both ways. it underscores how central his testimony could be to the committee. >> a powerpoint presentation, a plan to overturn the election. the committee has that. >> it doesn't say he produced it, i just want to say. but as you say, elie, possessed it. one of the questions if we were on the committee, who watched this, who saw it, how far did it go? >> what steps were taken. >> why did they need the national guard on standby? >> that's the key. thanks dana and elie. also developing moments ago, russian president vladimir putin claiming he doesn't want a confrontation since that call with president biden. the warnings from the u.s., could they be enough to deter a russian invasion of ukraine? 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moved the two sides back from the brink of anything? >> i think there's that. i think there's also the sense in moscow that they were heard and the west is at least considering their red lines and that they're being taken seriously as opposed to being poo-pooed and brushed off. i think that was also very important for vladimir putin to be heard by the americans and to be taken seriously. >> the red line you're talking about is any closer association between nato and ukraine with the possibility of eventual membership, which by the way, nato officials are saying, if that's going to happen, it's many years off. but they also say that's up to nato and ukraine, not you, russia. is there any worry that biden and the u.s. will hang him out to dry here and make that assurance that, while ukraine wants greater cooperation? >> i think there is that danger. at the same time i think ukrainians or the ukrainian government understands that nato accession is not in the cards, partly because everything putin has done since 2014, i think nato accession was a long way off before then. france and germany who have much closer economic ties with russia, i think it's made it even more difficult with ukraine. that said, i think putin has hurt himself in that by doing all this, he turned nato's attention back from russia to where it was in afghanistan, before 2014. now russia is the focus of nato and giving more assistance, there's nato advisers in ukraine. that wasn't there before. >> that's a phenomenon, right? we often tend to view -- and you'll hear putin is 12 feet tall. >> he's quite short actually. >> theoretically speaking, does this engender exactly the outcome he didn't want which is, say, more nato forces deployed in more permanent positions? we're not talking about ukraine but in the east, which is what eastern european partners want and putin doesn't want. is that the outcome he ends up with? >> it's kind of hard to say. nato was not focused on russia even though it was brought as an alliance to counter the influgs. the only time article 5 in nato was invoked was after 9/11 when nato sent troops to afghanistan. russia was not on the radar at all until putin invaded and put himself in the a radar, fulfilling his own paranoid fantasy about nato's obsession with him. that also serves him well domestically and geopolitically. it makes him a focus of conversation. it makes us talk about him. it makes the president of the united states take two bilateral summits with him in six months, every time he pulls troops towards the border with ukraine. >> very briefly, is an invasion of ukraine less likely today than it was prior to this conversation? 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>> a lot of the fentanyl, it's easily transportable. it's deadly in nature and it's across all our communities. that's the challenge. let me make it clear, this problem doesn't start or end at the border. it starts in the cocoa fields as well as those fentanyl and meth factories that are elicit and ends unfortunately in the emergency room. >> there's almost nothing you can disentangle from politics now, even things like masks and vaccines. what about with this epidemic of drug overdoses? how political is this? >> somebody suffering from substance use disorder or going through an overdose, they're not republicans or democrats, not living in a red space or blue states, rich or poor or black or white. they're human beings that we need to help support. that's exactly the way i look at it, looking at addiction as a chronic relapsing brain disease rather than a choice. >> if you compare the united states to similar other countries, the overdose death rates are three to four times higher. if it's a brain disease that's driving this, why does it so disparately affect this country? >> if you recall, first we had the prescription opioid epidemic. we saw an incline in deaths and addiction because of that. i was right there in the trenches where i was seeing the marketing happening to me about why these are such great things. from there we went and saw -- it turned into the heroin injection drug use epidemic. we saw it as the fentanyl being cut with heroin. now we're seeing fentanyl and stimulants like meth. so this is not something that's happened overnight. we need to make sure we're looking at prevention as an important tool, especially youth prevention. we have to make sure that people have the ability to have maloxone which is an opioid reversal drug, same thing for other aspects, programs and fentanyl strips. >> this is something that is still controversial in some places, fentanyl test strips you can buy for $1.00 a strip on amazon. yet in some states in the country they're still considered drug paraphernalia. >> we're seeing a crisis for which harm reduction is going to have to be one of the very important tools in our toolbox. it's for that very reason that this administration has made harm reduction for the first time part of its federal policy. >> people will say, look, you're enabling drug use. that's the provocation. >> as a physician that has spent his career dealing with science and moving data around, we just do not have that evidence. >> new york just opened up their first sanctioned safe injection site. places where people can go to use safely. is that something you would support, or do you think we'll see that more widely in the united states? >> i would be interested in looking at the science and data behind any and all of the harm reduction practices. we want to learn and make sure that every possible door that we can open up to help people and connect them to treatment is available to us. >> this seems to signal a shift. >> if you're looking to save lives and you've reached an historic precedent level of deaths and you cannot looking at any and every option in order to save those lives -- >> i've got to tell you, i've been getting these messages asking me if i took the drug czar job. i think people think there's only one dr. gupta in the whole country. >> that's so interesting. >> there are many dr. guptas as it turns out. he's very serious about this issue. even before the pandemic, i don't know if you realized, but life expectancy in the united states was already going down, in part because of these drug overdoses, and then the pandemic just worsened things a lot. two things that i really took away from it, one is this administration is very committed to harm reduction which is controversial, the idea of trying to make drug use safer. some people say it enables it, and the other thing is this idea that fentanyl, even though there's overdoses from cocaine and meth, fentanyl is far and away the biggest contributor. it's cut into everything, even in the non-opioid drugs. those are going to be two areas where they're spending the millions of dollars allocated towards addressing the overdose crisis. >> it's a national tragedy. thank you for shining a light on it. minutes from now, president biden will leave the white house for missouri where he plans to go to sell his bipartisan infrastructure law. the "kansas city star" has a message for him. take a page from bob doele's legacy. i'll speak with a member of the editorial board just ahead. first here is a look at some of the other events we're watching today. age before beauty? 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>> some of it is still to be decided, of course. the president today will visit the bus depot, if you will, erica, a place where kansas city's buses were repaired. kansas city was one of the first major cities in the nation to promote and institute free fares on their buses. it doesn't cost you anything to ride the bus on kansas scity or our train system. i'm sure the president will talk about transit an electric buses, ways to get people from point a to point b. roads and brinls will be included as well. i think the challenge for the president and one of the things we try to talk about in the editorial is people here who supported him in 2020 want to see real accomplishment in their lives. sometimes it's hard to see that when it's a bridge or a new road. they're more worried about the cost of milk or a loaf of bread at the grocery store. we hope and expect the president to sort of bring that issue up as well and focus on that in 2022 and going forward. >> how much focus do you think there needs to be on bipartisanship? that's something he ran on. yes, this is a bipartisan bill. there's a long slog ahead in washington. your state went to a red state fairly quickly. is there a chance for bipartisanship? >> that's the million dollar question, of course. there's always some chance for it. the defense bill in the house passed with bipartisan support yesterday, but it's a very polarized time. no one doubts that in washington or in missouri or in kansas, and there are certainly different approaches to things like covid and other programs for the president. but there is a need to work together. there is a tradition of that. bob dole was the exemplar of that approach and we hope the president and the people in congress pay attention to that as they honor the late senator. >> dave helling, appreciate your time today, thank you. thanks so much to all of you for joining us today. i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm erica hill. 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