his alarming behavior at school. >> they also said that the day before the shooting a teacher spotting the suspect searching for ammunition on his cell phone. the school left his parents a voice mail but the call was not returned and later of the prosecutor said that jennifer crumbly sent a text to her son about the incident and wrote this, lol, i'm not mad at you. you have to learn not to get caught. the prosecutor said there were more warning signs, the morning of that shooting. >> on november 30th, 21, the morning of the shooting, the next day, ethan crumbly's teacher came upon a note on his desk when alarmed her to point that she took a picture of it on her cell phone. the note contained the following. a drawing a semi automatic gun and said the thoughts won't stop me and a drawing of a bullet with the words above the bullet, quote, blood everywhere, end quote. between the drawing of the gun and the bullet is a drawing of a person who appears to be shot twice and bleeding. be low that figure is a drawing of a laughing emoji. further down the drawing are the words, quote, my life is useless, end quote. >> james and jennifer crumbly with summoned to school and their son was removed from the class and what happened next is key to why she charged them. >> at the meeting they were shown the drawing and were advised they were required to get their son into counseling within 48 hours. both james and jennifer crumbly famed to ask their son if he had niz gun with him or where his gun was located and failed to inspect his backpack for the presence of the gun which he had with him. they resisted the idea of then leaving the school at that time, of their son leaving the school at that time. instead james and jennifer crumbly left the high school without their son. he was returned to the classroom. when the news of the active shooter at oxford high school had been made public, jennifer crumbly texted to her son, at 11:22 -- i'm sorry at 1:22 p.m., quote, ethan, don't do it. >> cnn's shimon prokupecz is following all of the developments for us. shimon, you could just here how angry and frustrated that prosecutor was with the parents' behavior. >> well that anger that she felt and has been speaking -- spoke about finally spoke about, think about this for days, i've been on the ground here and i've been asking questions about this information, they had refused to confirm, they have refused to make it public. and she -- that anger that she speaks about is the anger that many of the people in this community feel against the school. and the sheriff's deputies who ran into that school to save people's lives and saw the dead bodies, that is the anger they feel as well because they know and they believe that the school could have done more. so today obviously it was a lot about the parents. and the prosecutor working through the week here saying they have information and they were working on this information about potentially bringing charges against the parents and so finally they did that. we have the four counts of involuntary manslaughter and the prosecutor really describing everything that they have found in the week. leading up to filing these charges. but then also she talked about responsible gun ownership and why this case was so important to bring. take a listen. >> i want to be really clear that these charges are intended to hold the individuals who contributed to this tragedy accountable and also send a message that gun owners have a responsibility, when they fail to uphold that responsibility, there are serious and criminal consequences. >> reporter: and the issue that the prosecutor said here, yes, this gun, they believe was purchased for the 15-year-old by the parents. he was present at the gun shop when it was bought. but also it is the failure to secure the weapon that they didn't have it in a locked box, that they didn't do more to make sure that the gun got into their hands. into his hands. but the other thing that she brought up is is that the family knew something was going on. she said there was evidence, she did not want to speak about it, that shows this was not something that he planned in a couple of days. that perhaps this went on for many longer, that there was other things going on in this person's life. she just -- the prosecutor does not want to go into think that. but this is still going to bring up a lost angner this community, continued frustration and really hurt. so much hurt in this community because it is the school they feel was the last hope that they had, the last chance that they had to prevent this and the school never alerted law enforcement to any of this, allison. >> just listening to the prosecutor today, there were so many red flags and so many points at which something different could have happened. shimon, thank you very much for all of the reporting on the ground there for us. and joining us now is former federal prosecutor kim whaley, also a law professor at the university of baltimore. great to have you. so four counts each the parents of involuntary manslaughter, meaning, what? what is the evidence they were connected to the deaths of these four students? >> well the argument here is extreme negligence. negligence that goes to the point of recklessness. so it is akin to driving drunk for example and by mistake unintentionally causing someone's death. the idea is not that the parents were in some conspiracy with their son to kill these victims, but instead that they had enough knowledge that it was criminally negligence for them to have not taken steps to protect in this instance the other students in the school. >> now, there are so many people asking the question, why didn't these teachers, the school officials do more than they did, contact law enforcement and insist that he leave the school that day instead of accepting the resistance from the parents. is there any exposure legally for the school officials. >> it sounds like the prosecutor has not ruled that out. she's made that clear, that there is still an ongoing investigation. but of course stool officials have rules and regulations that governor how they discipline students in the school. i think the bigger question, there are two elements here, one is accountability. we're seeing this moment where the question of these mass shootings, does the accountability go beyond the shooter, to the parents, and the second is, you know, it will be great if we lived in a society where everyone exercised really good judgment. but instead we have laws. we have laws that manage behavior and create indcentives and there is a patch work of laws called child access prevention laws and some states like california require parents to lock up their guns and other states don't. and this is say moment for reasonable regulation and science. but of course congress has prevented the cdc from doing research on what measures would reasonably protect our children from gun violence. >> one of the most sickening things that came out of the press conference with the prosecutor today was how the student, this suspect, was searching for ammunition on his cell phone during a class. and a teacher saw it and they alerted the office. the office then called, left a voice mail for his mom, then emailed both of his parents and got no response. but then this text message, the prosecutor later found from the mother to her son, lol, i'm not mad at you. you have to learn not to get caught. so that is -- those are the lessons, i guess, that parenting lessons they had been given their son. a question was asked of the prosecutor, will the parents be taken into custody today? and so they're looking at 15 years if they were convicted. will they be in prison until this court case or for involuntary manslaughter will they not be? >> well, i don't know what the sort of -- what the procedure would be in michigan for that. it is possible that they would get some kind of bail that they could make. but i agree with you, alisyn, that as a parent listening to that, it is really a stunning and astonishing. but studies show, again, that most parents, 70% or so, believe their children don't have access to guns in their home. and the studies also show that actually a third of the kids could get to them within five minutes. so this is a disconnect with parents understanding what their children want and understand and also of course this boy we hear that had been bullied, suicides have gone up since covid, gun deaths related to children have gone up 33% because these kids are home. this is a public health crisis. this is something that legislators need to get behind and given that about 80% of the american public, including 70% of the gop registered voters are supportive of laws that require that you just lock up your guns, not take the guns away, but lock them up, hopefully this tragedy can lead to some saving deaths, saving children from deaths moving forward to gun -- relating to gun violence. >> it is important you point out the child access prevention laws. according to the gifford law center, 4.6 million minors in this country live in a home with an unloaded, unlocked firearm as was the case here. fewer than half of the states have those cap laws in place. kim whaley, thank you so much. >> thank you. the new jobs report shows a hiring hit a speed bump. fell short of expectations. but the president insists there is a boom around the corner. and as scientists around the world rush to learn more about omicron, delta is still wreaking havoc so we'll hear about the new plan to fight these in a live interview with the cdc director rochelle walensky. off menu: when you watch a chef do it, they don't rush through this stage. why we drive: few of us will ever dive so deep into our cars, but those who do venture down into the nuts and bolts... the dollar rebellion: when you wake up and face a challenge, you have to give all of yourself when you do something, and 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unemployment rate than the lower top line number significantly from the economists and what this report underscores when you listen to the president today and talk to white house officials, it is the pandemic in a nutshell in terms of the top line number, definitely missed what expectations were, was significantly lower than what white house officials wanted it to be, but if you dig in there are a number of a positive sides. the unemployment rate dropping from 4.6% to 4.2% and you have labor force participation ticking up so it is a mixed bag and that presents its own complications as the white house has seen and acknowledged over the course of the last several months particularly with supply chain bottlenecks and energy prices high as well and that is the issues. it seems like people have been latching on to, is the president acknowledged today. take a listen. >> despite this progress, families are anxious, their anxious about covid and the cost of living, the economy more broadly. they're still uncertain. i want you to know i hear you. it is not enough to know that we're making progress. you need too see it and feel it in your own lives and around the kitchen table and in your checkbooks. >> reporter: obviously a key focus for the white house over the course of the last several weeks and will be going forward. and you may have noticed the president's voice was gravel dwri, he often cleared his throat and he was asked about why that was the case. this is what he said. >> your voice sounds a little different. are you okay? >> i'm okay. i have a test every day. i have a one and a half-year-old grandson who had a cold to likes to kiss his pop. and he's been kissing -- anyway, so but it is just a cold. >> reporter: really diming out his grandson there. the president's remarks saying he just had a cold backed up with a memo from the white house physician a few moments ago, the physician saying he does have a cold and taking over-the-counter medications an tested three times this week for covid and he's tested negative every time. >> that is good because his voice is like an octave lower than it was yesterday. >> yes. phil, thank you. let's go to mark zandi now, from moody's analytics. what do you see in the numbers that were released this morning? >> well, victor, i see them more as glass half full than empty. the job gain was soft, disappointing. but i think it is important to realize that all year long these initial estimates from the bureau of labor statistics, the government agency that puts the data together had been revised higher as we get more information and data. we saw that today. the october and september numbers got revised higher. so when this is all said and done i wouldn't be surprised if the november job numbers were revised significantly higher. and that decline in the unemployment rate, that is really significant. not only because we're getting close to 4%, which is close to what most people would consider to be full employment, but it also happened when we saw big increase in labor force participation rate. so it is a lot of cross currents, you have to look deep into the data by my sense is it signifies the job market is strong. >> and labor participation rate going up means that people are finally coming in from the sidelines where they've been for 18 months? >> yeah, that is exactly right. so alisyn, during the pandemic, lots of people left the labor force for a lot of different reasons. illness, taking care of ill people and we need to get those folks back into the labor force and taking the unfilled job positions and today's numbers suggest that that process is underway. that people are now starting to come back in and taking those positions. that will help ease some of the labor shortages and normalize the economy. >> let's talk about the influence of another set of numbers. the new daily cases now above 100,000 per day for the first time in two months. the influence of those numbers, the now presence of omicron here in the u.s., how fears of that and the winter surge, how that could impact job growth. >> yeah, it is obviously the biggest threat. the economy remains tethered to the pandemic. when the delta wave hit us back in the summer, that did a lot of damage. it slows growth, cost us jobs and of course it is the key reason why we've seen this spike in inflation. so, you know, now that we're seeing infects started to rise and omicron on our doorstep, this is something we need to watch and it is going to be an issue and slow growth. hopefully each new wave, there is any waus, it is polianish to think that is not the case but hopefully each wave is less disruptive to the health care system and the economy than the previous wave. if that is the case, then we'll be okay. but, you know, there is a lot of script to be written here on that. >> mark, you have a prediction about gas prices i think people will be happy to hear. >> yeah. so, oil prices, which are obviously the key element into 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announced yesterday are, we believe, are sufficient to deal with the proper medical precautions to deal with the spread of this new variant. i'm not a scientist, so i continue to rely on the scientists and asking them wlrnts we have to move beyond what we did yesterday. right now they're saying no. >> cnn's chief medical constituent dr. sanjay gupta is here and going to discuss all of this and more with cdc director dr. rochelle walensky. sanjay, take away. >> doctor, welcome. and thanks for joining urs. >> thank you. good to be with you. good to be back with you. >> let's get to it. it is been over a week since the world learned about the new variant. what do we know now that we didn't know then? >> you know what, the data are starting to em ernl. we've seen a rise in cases in south africa and southern africa and we're learning a lot about, we will learn a lot about of this variant from them. there are now six states that have reported cases here in the united states. we have scaled up our genomic sequencing here and have been prepared tor this because of all of the work that we've done so far. we have so many more tools now to address variants than we did a year ago. but i want to highlight what was said at the top which is, you know, we now have about 86,000 cases of covid right now in the united states being diagnosed daily and 99.9% of them, the vast majority of them continue to be delta. and we know what we need to do against delta. and that is get vaccinated. get boosted if you're eligible and continue all of those prevention measures including masking and those are very likely to work against omicron. >> are you worried that omicron will become the dominant strain. what is your level of concern? >> you know, it might. and we don't yet know. what we do know is that early data and even mutation data are telling us that this may well be a more transmissible variant than delta. and so this is going to take some time to sort out. we are prepared, though, we are doing genomic sequencing in all of the states but it may be that we start to see more omicron than we have delta. and we will be following that very carefully. >> you know, as you mentioned, we're doing a lot more sequencing than a year ago or even several months ago but it strikes me, we're still only doing about a million tests a day, period. there was talk at one point of doing 20 million, 30 million tests a day. if we're not doing enough tests, even if we're sequencing more, doesn't that put us behind in terms of actually being able to have real vision on what is happening here? >> so, i think you're referring to the pcr test. we're doing about one and a half million pcr tests per week. but i think what we really need to comment on is we're doing a lot more rapid testing and even with the president's actions yesterday, we're scaling up rapid testing in our international airports as we speak, in l.a.x. and san francisco, atlanta, newark, jfk, to make sure that we have rapid and pcr 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covid-19, you should go and get a test and i would say if you have access to a rapid test, or a pcr, get that one. so anybody that has symptoms should get a test and consult with your health care provider but quarentine until you have the results of that test. and many people are using tests for asymptomatic screening in our k through 12 systems and in many higher ed and many are using it as people start to gather for the holidays. so for example you want to have a gathering, you have a whole group of people would are vaccinated, who have been practicing prevention measures for the weeks before the gathering and really want that extra amount of reassurance, you could get a test there as well to make sure that your safe to gather. >> you mentioned the patients who have now been diagnosed with the new variant here in the. one of them is a patient in minnesota and this is a person who was fully vaccinated and had a booster as well. so we're advising people to get vaccinated. get a booster. and then we hear about this particular person. now it sounds like the symptoms are mild. but what level of concern does this present? >> you know, i think we have to understand the whole circumstance there and we're still learning a lot about this case and about all of the contacts. it may very well be that this case had been one of a thousand people who have been exposed to omicron and this was the only case that turned positive, in which case it would indicate that our vaiccines are working very well. it is also helpful to understand that this person had mild symptoms that have, to my understanding, resolved pretty swiftly. so this may very well be, actually a story of vaccine success and not necessarily one of vaccine failure and that is what all of the science right now we're doing to understand. >> you know, i do want to ask about this issue of natural immunity, dr. walensky. it comes up quite a bit. people who have have had covid feel like they have in infection acquired immunity, wondering why they still need to get the vaccine. is it been a lot of back and forth on this. should there be some plan in place to be able to figure out if someone actually has antibodies, have immunity and therefore doesn't either need to be vaccinated now or, you know, get a booster now, whatever it may be? >> yeah, this is really important question. and still one that is under study. but the thing that i think is really important to understand here is the more mutations you have in a variant, the more you would like to bolster your immunity to have as much immunity as possible to overcome that variant. and so what we know now, with the omicron variant, is more immunity will be better. so if you have previously had infection, will you definitely be more protected if you also get a vaccine and that is really the goal here, is to provide the most amount of protection as possible so people will be protected against severe disease and against infection altogether. >> typically when something like this happens we're used to hearing from the cdc right away. do you think the country would have benefited from hearing from you when this variant actually came out? >> we were all working together through the holiday weekend. and we had a statement as soon as this came out and we have -- we intend to and will continue to be fully transparent with all of the data that we are learning as soon as we are learning it. >> so you weren't being side lined in any way? >> oh, absolutely not. we have been collaborating and working through the weekend altogether. >> okay, dr. walensky, please keep in touch. we want to keep hearing from you and, you know, keep us informed on what is happening with the omicron. >> well, absolutely do. thank you so much for having me. >> all right. dr. walensky. >> sanjay, fascinating conversation. and where you left off there, the question early on after we got the name omicron was got that greek letter, where is dr. walensky, especially after we saw some confusion over boosters and who should get them. the cdc director was crucial to hear from her and we didn't for a couple of days. >> yeah, she just talked about that. she said she was working over the weekend. you're right. typically we do hear from the cdc first in these situations, they are the ones that usually announce this sort of thing. but i guess dr. fauci and others were out there talking about this. she was at the briefing monday which was three days later. but you heard her explanation there. >> sanjay, i'm so glad you brought up the issue of natural immunity. because i have read research that suggests and you often hear people say that that provided more protection than a vaccine and i've read more research that suggests that a vaiccine provids much longer lasting and stronger than natural immunity after you've caught covid. so is it not settled science, is that what i just heard? >> i think what is interesting about this is historically, you look at a lot of people, even going back to the days of sars, people who have infections, they did develop long-standing immunity after those sorts of infections, with this particular virus it does appear to be different. reinfection rates seem to be higher among people who have previous infections versus those who are vaccinated. if you look at south africa, and look at the waves of infection over there, you see that they have these surges, hardly any vaccination there, especially early on, they have waves of infection and then it sort of dies down for about three to four months and then another wave. and i reason i bring that up is because that is a population that gives you an idea of how long infection acquired immunity last. and it could be three to four months and it is not effective against new variants. so this is a big question going forward as you heard from the cdc director, but i think it is pretty clear that say that you had covid in the past with a previous variant, the idea that it will protect you against omicron or delta if you didn't have dealta, seems low and that is why the vaccines are so critical. >> sanjay, thank you so much for that conversation. >> you got it. >> nikki haley's icy relationship with former president trump appears to be thawing. the two reunited ten months after haley was banished from trump world. we'll tell you about meeting, next. we've been waiting all year to come together. ♪ happy holidays from lexus. get $1500 lease cash toward a 2022 rx 350. ♪ the hammerschteins are saving big holiday shopping at amazon. so now they're free to become... the handbell hammerschteins. ♪ just pure artistry. well the federal government once again averted a shutdown last night they will keep the government until the end of february but republicans were two votes short of derailing it over the desire to stop president biden mandates. mike lee of utah said they will keep bringing this up any chance they get. here to discuss gloria borger and commentator charlie dent, former republican congressman from pennsylvania. gloria, first to you, we're a week and a half out for the deadline for the debt ceiling increase. is this something we expect that they're going to continue to bring up and leet to this catastrophe as we heard. >> i think you could expect republicans to continue raising the issue of the vaccine mandate over and over again. senator lee said as much, every time they could. it is a good issue with their base and i think that we're at a point in the congress where you could expect to see this through the 2022 election. it is not a matter of governing, right now for the minority. they want to make sure that biden cannot govern and show that he has a governing majority. and so that is what we're watching unfortunately. >> charlie, i want to get your thoughts on vaccine mandates because i know that you're not a fan. so i want what your thoughts are on that. but in terms of the federal mandate since it has been implemented, for federal employees, the compliance rate of getting vaccinated is upwards of something like 95%. so it is effective. i get that you don't like it. >> i'm okay with the federal mandates on government workers -- federal workers and the military and public safety. >> what don't you like. >> i'm not crazy about the osha mandate for private sector over 100 people. >> and that is what these republicans are objecting to. what don't you like. >> it is difficult to find workers right now and if you have to fire 10% to 20% of your work force, we'll have more supply chain shortages. so we have to figure out a way to work through it. but think it is bad politics to carry on about the vaccine mandates because most of us are vaccinated and that is -- and we should be appealing to people who are vaccinated, a lot more of them than unvaccinated so i think it is a mistake to overly politicize this issue. >> let's turn to this meeting that happened between former president trump, former u.n. ambassador nikki haley, it is described as pleasant but brief. which is a brief description as well. according to politico. he rejected her meeting a few months ago after what she wrote about hi role on jon ever jan -- role on january 6. what is the meeting considering what likely 2024 has for both of them. >> it is interesting to watch all of he's gyrationsba they feel they have to go to mar-a-lago to kiss the ring and they don't want to alienate donald trump and he has a long memory. this weekend i spoke with a force who is familiar with donald trump's thinking about nikki haley and the source he doesn't like nikki haley and ron desantis. two of them are potentially very popular republican presidential candidates who could challenge him should he run. i will add that the source said that he's 99.9% sure that trump is going to run. so i'm not sure, but this source is. >> that is very interesting. >> yep. >> speaking of running. dr. oz, so famous television doctor, is running for senate in your homeland of pennsylvania and i know that you've said that generally people, pennsylvaniaabs don't take likely to a carpet bagger who hasn't lived in pennsylvania for a long time. doesn't his celebrity trump that, pun intended. >> hurt it. >> i think a celebrity will help mitigate the problem. but i think i could tell you as a guy who ran against a candidate who never lived in the district, this is what we call the 80% issue. it was in every message, it was powerful, the simple argument was how you could send somebody to washington to represent you who doesn't live in your community. >> you said that every time. >> every time. there was no other issue. it was the only issue. it was very effective. the powers that be in washington, said don't use that, that is not going to work until it was the only issue that was effective in every message. so the bottom line it may not be a disqualifying issue given his celebrity, but it is going to be a close race. you can't afford to lose people in frackville and bratford county. some people could be parochial about these sort of things. if i were dr. oz, that is a big issue. and he has to deal with the quack therapies that he's been pushing but i think this residency issue is problematic for him. >> okay, thank you both. great to talk to you. meanwhile alex baldwin is talking about the moments on his film set after the shooting of the cinematographer hallena hutchins. he insisted he is not responsible for her death. the one question he wants answered, next. the peñas are saving big holiday shopping at amazon. so now, they're free to become... ♪ the party peñas. ♪ they see your ugly sweaters, and raise you some mittens. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get started today. earn about covid-19, the more questions we have. the biggest question now, what's next? what will covid bring in six months, a year? if you're feeling anxious about the future, you're not alone. calhope offers free covid-19 emotional support. call 833-317-4673, or live chat at calhope.org today. alec baldwin says that someone is responsible for that deadly accidental shooting on his movie set but it's not him. baldwin cried several times during his first in-depth interview about the incident but he stressed, according to him, there's only one question that really needs to be answered, who brought live rounds on to the "rust" set. >> someone is responsible for what happened, and i can't say who that is, but i know it's not me. honest to god, if i felt that i was responsible, i might have killed myself if i thought i was responsible. and i don't say that lightly. somebody brought live rounds plural on to the set of the film. and one of them ended up in that gun, and if the bullets didn't come on the property, we wouldn't be having this conversation. there's only one question to be resolved. only one, and that is where did the live round come from. >> cnn national correspondent natasha chen has more of that interview. natasha, that is the big question, haven't investigators figured out yet how that live round got on the set? >> well, alisyn, victor, it could be quite a while before we hear any developments from investigators who are currently combing through a lot of evidence and interviews. now, alec baldwin did talk about some of the legal issues in this case. he did say that he spoke to some of the people that he felt are in the know, and that he feels it's unlikely that he would be charged criminally, but he's already been named in a couple of civil suits filed, for example, by mami mitchell, the script supervisor on set, as well as serge svenony, a lighting technician. here's what he said about that. >> there are two people that filed civil suits so far, and one of them walked up to me outside the church probably within 15 or 20 minutes of the event itself and put their hand on me and said, you realize that you have no responsible for what's happened here, don't you. >> was this serge? >> no comment. one of those two. and now that person is suing me. >> he said the fact that they have filed suits before the husband of the late halyna hutchins has even done so is unsettling. alisyn and victor. >> let me ask you about the attorney for one crew member. she's already firing back after this interview. tell us about that. >> that's gloria allred, the attorney representing the script supervisor, one of the people filing a suit, and alli lhead needs to look in the mirror to see one of the people responsible, and he needs to step up and take that responsibility. here he is. >> there's no point in pitting victims against each other. the point is mr. baldwin is not taking responsibility. he said in this interview what can i do. i will tell you, alec baldwin, what you could have done. you could have checked that gun before it was fired from your hand, and it matters what happened to mami mitchell. i mean, she ran out and made that 911 call okay. she cared about helping someone else. what did alec baldwin do? >> baldwin did address the issue of actors checking the guns. he said that is not required as part of the job. he said the job of checking the gun is that of the armorer or the prop master. again, he said that as far as responsibility, he said someone is, but it's not him, victor and alisyn. >> natasha chen in los angeles. thank you. this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome to the newsroom, i'm alisyn camerota. >> i'm victor blackwell. let's turn to the new charges from the michigan prosecutor who is seeking justice in tuesday's deadly school shooting. james and general fur crumbley are charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter for the four students their son allegedly killed on tuesday. >> prosecutor karen mcdonald revealed that these parents purchased the handgun for their 15-year-old son of christmas, and on the morning of the shooting, the crumbleys were summoned to school after teachers saw their son with a violent drawing, depicting guns, and people bleeding, and the phrase the thoughts won't stop. help me. >> jennifer and james were shown the drawing and advised that they were required to get their son into counseling in 48 hours. both james and jennifer crumbley failed to ask their son if he had his gun with him or where his gun was located and failed to inspect his backpack for the presence of the gun, which he had with him. james and jennifer crumbley resisted the idea of their son leaving the school at that time. instead, james and jennifer crumbley left the high school without their son. he was returned to the classroom. when the news of the active shooter at oxford high school had been made public, jennifer crumbley texted to her son at 1:22 p.m., quote, ethan don't do it. >> oakland county sheriff michael bouchard joins us now. sheriff, thank you for your time. they have now been charged. where are the crumbleys? >> as a matter of fact, that's a question our detectives are working on right now. this morning, prior to any charges being issued an attorney representing them called our detectives and said if the prosecutor announces charges, we'll make arrangements to have them arrested and, when we were informed the prosecutor had issued charges, we sent detectives out and got a call from the lawyer for the couple saying they're not returning her calls or texts, so if they think they're going to get away, they're not. >> so the crumbleys are missing now? >> correct. >> have you searched their house? >> oh, we have, yeah, a host of detectives out, including our partners with the fbi and the u.s. marshal service. my fugitive apprehension team, like i said, if they think they're going to not come with their attorney but going to run, we're going to remedy that. >> when is the last time there was communication with the crumbleys? >> they haven't communicated with us, the only communication we have was through their attorney. >> do you know the last time that their attorney had confirmation or some communication with them? >> as i said, the attorney this morning told us if charges were issued and at that point they had not, that she would make arrangements to have them arrested, so, you know w, when e made that actual last contact, i don't know: but that's when she called us and told them that she would let us know and make arrangements to have them arrested. >> what's your degree of concern that they are armed? >> you know, anything's possible. i would not encourage anybody to approach them. i think it would be unlikely, but we're not going to take that chance. we're going to go get them. >> can you give us an idea of the breadth of the search for them right now? >> well, every available resource that is there is happening. it's going on right now. and if they're tuned in

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