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one days since the start of the pandemic. dr. fauci says you can enjoy a traditional thanksgiving as long as you take steps to keep your family and friends safe. how good does it feel to have all those people there? >> reporter: it's an emotional experience to be out here, not only for me, but for the people out here as well. just everybody in an incredibly good mood. people here taking in the parade. happy thanksgiving to you all. we have 15 balloon, many of them new. this is reasonable mcdonald, the fifth iteration, but the first time this particular balloon has made the parade. they have had 28 floats, thousands of people helping to get the balloon down the street. it is a perfect new york fall day today, and the balloon are as high as i have seen them in the many years i have covered this thing. it is great to see everybody out here, and amazing to you how it's all kicking off. interestingly enough, the people who have gotten the biggest applause as they've been going down the way is the sanitation department as they help clean up the streets already. just amazing how excited people are to be out here. 2.5 million people on this route alone they are preparing for. millions more watching around the world. it does feel a bit like we're getting back to normal. >> it must be quite something to you, miguel, to cover something happy. you were one of our key reporters through the whole pandemic in those emergency rooms for two-plus years. so grateful to you, friend. thank you for bringing us some cheer this morning. >> after two years, this is great. happy thanksgiving to you. have a great one. well, the u.s. has set a new pandemic era record for air travel. 2.3 million people passed through tsa checkpoints yesterday. now the justice department is warning against unruly behavior. let's go to pete muntean. i'm glad to see the doj is saying prioritize this. these flight attendants and fellow passengers are being put at serious risk. >> reporter: you know, flight attendants have been on the front lines of enforcing the federal mask man dade. the head of the association sarah nelson says it's about time for these violent passengers to face tougher penalty. now merrick garland is telling prosecutors to prioritize them. they can only assess civil foot fines, the faa, when these numbers are so high. thins what the numbers look like, 5300 reports of unruly passengers by flight crews to the faa. 266 enforcement actions initiated by the faa, but of those, the faa has only referred 37 cases to the department of justice. it's only the most extreme cases where passengers could face up to 25 years in prison. attorney general garland says, quote, passengers who assault, intimidate or threaten violence against flight crews do more than harm employees. he also says the department of justice and the faa are committed to more information sharing. this is coming as so many people are rushing back to air travel. we just set a pandemic eera travel report. 2.3 million people passing security, and it's likely we'll see numbers even higher come sunday. that's when everybody who left for the holiday begin coming home all at once, poppy. >> pete, thank you for the report. happy thanksgiving. this year the thanksgiving dinner will be the most expensive ever, thank to inflation. this traditional feith is like lie completely out of reach for family who struggle to put food on the table. rosa flores has more from houston. these are the best of the best people, who give of their thanksgiving to give to others. what are we expecting? >> reporter: poppy, it's so great to be with you. happy thanksgiving. this is a texas-sized feast here ocean of the georgia r. brown convention center. look at the food behind me. this is being placed into baskets that will be handed out to the 25,000 to 30,000 people who are expected to participate here today on thanksgiving. now, you'll see a lot of the volunteers behind me. the organization says that they have about 3500 people helping to make all of this happen. beyond these volunteers, beyond this food, there's a lot of tables here at this convention center and a serving area. that's where the hot meals will be served. according to the organizers, 3200 turkey were cooked for this. i can tell you, i was in the kitchen yesterday. it smells very good. they were cutting fresh yams, and baking fresh cornbread. the meal will be amazel amazing. beyond that there's a stage with entertainment at morning long. and there will be a drive-up site where about 15,000 turkey will be handed out to people who drive up in their cars. they'll also be handing out these basks that are supposed to last a five of five to six about three, four days. they want to make sure this is not just for the thanksgiving meal but that these individuals have plenty of food for a few days at least. poppy, the organizer tells me she's been doing this for more than 40 years. she says this year, of course, there's been so many people impacted because of the pandemic and because of the increasing gas prices and food prices, the arctic freeze here in texas that impacted so many. so there is so much need. that's why they're celebrating thanksgiving day so just process that for a moment. >> thank you, rose. what an amazing woman. dos this for 40 years. a reminder we can all do a bit more. thank you very much. rosa. fresh signs of the u.s. economy is on the mend, despite this heavy inflation we have. weekly jobless claims have fallen below pre-pandemic level, in fact the lowest since 1969. retail sales are slowing since dropping to a pandemic low. now more americans are expected to shop this year, and projected to spend about $1,000 each this holiday season, according to the national retail federation here. joining me is the president of the federation. thank you for joining us on thanksgiving. >> thanks for having me. >> i find is so interesting we have all these great economic indicators that i just mentioned, but you have them coupled with really painful inflation for people whether it's at the gas station or the grocery story. that story, though, doesn't seem to be hitting consumers. they're spending a lot of money. >> yeah, poppy, i think at the highest levels, at the macro level, the economy is in a good place. consumers are healthy, $4 trillion in savings on the sidelines. they have paid down debt. we've seen $5 trillion really supportive monetary policy, so the economic on the demand side is so good. it's overheated. that's leading to real pressures and inflationary prices in many goods. retailers are working very, very hard not only to make sure the goods that consumers want are on shelves, but also to mitigate the price increases. you have seen retailer being very creative about the way they're holding prices do you think, and so far consumers continue to respond in a positive way. >> here in new york city, the eggs i usually buy that was $2.99 were $4.49. so what is being done? >> i think certainly we have wage inflation as well, so people have more purchasing power. their wages are going further, but in every retail store, in every segment it's going to be different. if you're in a luckiy store, retailer working with all of their individual products to try to move those prices around in ways that they mitigate the price increase off consumers as much as possible. >> where are you -- you're probably tapped into these supply chain issues better than almost anyone. there are so many factors, what's going on at the ports, so many levels, but when are you expecting the supply chain pressures to ease? >> well, i think it's a combination of things. just a minute ago we mentioned the stimulus measures we put in place that's overheated demand. then we think of the supply chain as what happens at the ports of the country, but this is a global supply chain system, so what happens in vietnam, with shipping containers. lockdown due to covid spikes. i think it will be well into next year before we see these things come back into balance. until then we'll be working hard to make sure consumers have what they need. >> i want to talk about the position that the national retail federation has taken on mandated covid vaccinations from the biden administration. we have new covid cases up. we've got the cdc now saying and forecasting that covid deaths will increase over the next month, but the national retail federation is not supportive of the testing requirements. you want, look this is coming in the -- but what do you say to people who look at that position and ask, are you prioritizing profits over public health? >> i guess, poppy, i would start by pointing out one of the great success stories has been the way the retail industry has stupid up and made sure even in the darkest days when the whole country was essentially in lockdown, we had groceries, we had prescription drugs, pet food. as we moved through the various spaces, we had what we needed to go to school, to entertain, recreate from home, so the retail industry has been part of the succeed. our objection is not about the vaccines or effectiveness or even mandate. our concern is simply about the timing. we've had that conversation with the white house repeatedly. the lawsuit was a last resort, not a first resort. we want to phase this in, but given the labor shortages we are all facing across industries, this is an incredibly time to implement that te. >> i hear you, and we're all beyond grateful for the sacrifices, but isn't that an argue to do everything you can as an organization that represents them to endure consumer safety, whether it's in the form of vaccine or regular testing at a moment heading into a season where cases and deaths are going up. >> that's one of the reasons in july of '20 we were the first to come out and encourage mask mandates in all retail locations. we were out front on that. retailers have invested billions in bonuses, additional wages, time off, health care, personal protective equipment. i think you would find that it really interesting to know in the vast majority of cases retail stores are some of the safest places you can go. the spikes we have seen haven't been spiked that occurred in retail locations where people are in masks and observing ppe, social distancing. it's happening in other places. we've had that conversation with the biden administration. we want to work on the timing, but to force this on an industry now in the midst of this hiring crisis. we're trying to keep people employed, this is the wrong time to do it. let's talk about this in january and february. let's get through the holiday season and work together to make it happen. matthew shay, thank you for your time this morning and happy thanksgiving. thank you. happy thanksgiving. accountability for the death of ahmaud arbery. all three men were found guilty. why his mother talks about how she looks at that empty chair differently this year. we're live in europe where a new wave of the virus and possible lockdowns. and the inflated prices aren't helping farmers, either. i mean just cause you look like someone else doesn't mean you eat off the floor, [ chuckles ] or yell at the vacuum, or need flea medication. oh, yeah. that's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ (swords clashing) -had enough? 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>> i appreciated those comments. the reason i appreciated them, more than anything else, throughout the case, throughout the trial, the prosecution walked a tightrope in how it dealt with the issue of race. they definitely put out bush they weren't aggressively talking about it in front of the jury, as opposed to the defense that had no problem, i don't know if they were trying to trigger latent bigotry, but in any event to hear her talk about things implicit bias overt li and directly, is comforting. she understood that race was a fact and element in this trial. >> you make as much as an important point that really the prosecution did not bring up race until the closing argument. however, if the february trial, the federal trial and hate crimes charges, that certainly i would expect would not be the case, right? do you expect that race will be a central focus, given that it's a hate crimes charge across the board, but they will do things like focus on internet searches done by bryant or photo evidence of the vanity license plate with the confederate emblem on the pickup truck. will that really be central this time? >> absolutely. i think it will get a much bigger part of the case as that trial unfolds. i also think when it comes to evidence and what comes in, a lot of the evidence that you see or that you saw in the trial we just had is not going to be the same evidence that you will see put forward in the federal hate crimes case, because it's a different case and the statutes are different, and what you have to prove are different. >> yeah. >> so what's relevant becomes different. while a judge in this case may not have seen those things to be relevant, in the federal case i would expect the judge to see them as more probative and relative. >> one thing i find just fascinating. there was a lot maid of it during the trial, was is the makeup of the jury. not fully representative of the community, but the prosecutor talked yesterday about the real confidence that she had in this jury all the way through. >> yeah. you know, poppy, there are a lot of people who pointed to this case and said this is evidence that the justice system is working. while i can appreciate that and would like to share that optimism, i was deeply concerned about the rarkt makeup for the jury. i said for a very long time on different programs race was the 13th juror in this case. i don't think we can ignore that. before we get too excited about what the justice system did in this case, i want you and viewers to think about a couple things. as we heard from ahmaud arbery's more, it took prosecutors over 2 1/2 months to even arrest three people who are now convicted murderers. we had a prosecutor in brunswick, georgia, who has now been indicted, because she attempted to shield the same three convicted murderers from even being arrested. were it not for the video that had been taken by rodney bryant, which played a key element into their overall conviction, who knows where we would be. those three things do not suggest to me ked with simply just say a blanket statement that our justice system is working the way it should. it's not a guarantee. it's not something we can count on. until this becomes something that is the expectations and that we can put our faith in, we have to continue to press forward so that it no longer remain the exception. charles, thank you very much. happy thanksgiving. >> thank you. you as well. a precarious situation for the white house. president biden's message to ukraine is next. also, first, what to watch. here's a look at what else to watch today. >> the landscape has changed, not for the last time. the rules of business are being reinvented with a more flexible a mountain of toys to fulfill many wishes must be carried across all roads and all bridges. it's not magic that makes more holiday deliveries to homes in the us than anyone else, it's the hardworking people of the united states postal service. ♪ say it's all right ♪ ♪ say it's all right, it's all right ♪ ♪ have a good time 'cause it's all right ♪ ♪ now listen to the beat ♪ ♪ kinda pat your feet ♪ ♪ it's all right ♪ ♪ have a good time 'cause it's all right ♪ ♪ oh, it's all right ♪ [upbeat pop music throughout] [upbeat pop music throughout] woman: i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer ♪ ♪ yeah i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin, yeah that's all me. ♪ ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin that's my new plan. ♪ ♪ nothing is everything. ♪ woman: keep your skin clearer with skyrizi. most who achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months had lasting clearance through 1 year. in another study, most people had 90% clearer skin at 3 years. and skyrizi is 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. ♪ it's my moment so i just gotta say ♪ ♪ nothing is everything. ♪ skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, such as fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches, or coughs or if you plan to or recently received a vaccine. ♪ nothing is everything. ♪ woman: talk to your dermatologist about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save. . well, president biden and his familier spending thanksgiving in nantucket today. it had to be skipped last year because of covid. arlette saenz is that traveling with the president. the president had a surprise thanksgiving message? >> reporter: he did. they descended here on nantucket, an island off the coast of massachusetts. they have been visiting for more than 40 years. the white house twitter account sent out a message, offering some thoughts on this thanksgiving holiday. take a listen. >> happy thanksgiving, everyone. this is always a spect of special time in america, but this years the blessing are especially meaningful. >> we have a new precious for the little moments we can't plan or replicate. the music of laughter and a warm kitchen, the thump of small feet making big sounds. the circle of faces crowded around our dining room table, glowing in the candlelight. >> as we gather together again, our table and hearts are full of grace and great dude, and as commander in chief, i'm especially grateful to our service members and their families for the sacrifices for our nation. >> reporter: we've already gotten -- the president and first lady called into the macy's day parade. they are staying at the home of of dived reuben stein here on the island. biden has been coming here for more than four decades. if you talk to folks in town, a lot of people have stories of running into biden. but he can't exactly move around the island as easily and freely as he did, back when he was vice president and the senator. we'll see if he pops up anywhere over the cost of the next few days. arlette, thank you. >> reporter: happy thanksgiving. president biden is reaffirming his support for ukraine, sending m ing military advisers. adding the goal is to avoid war. let me bring in staff writer susan glasser. it's very good to have you. let me get for news that just crossed. nato's foreign ministers will meet in latvia next week to discuss the security situation with russia, sending a strong sign of support to ukraine. this is coming from secretary-general sultanberg. how much of a precipice are we on at this point? >> thank you so much, poppy. happy thanks giving to you. i do they ink this time it's different. remember the significant military buildup a few months ago, an immediate run-up for the first biden/putin summit. it seemed to de-escalate tensions. there was a sense that biden wanted to come out with establishing, if not better a more predictable relationship with russia. that has not happened. thises in military buildup, i'm hearing a much enhanced sense of alarm, in that military action is in fact possible. vladimir putin is known over his two decades in pow foremaking late decisions, but wanting to have the options to do things. remember, as unthinkable as it seems, vladimir putin has shown a willingness to take military action in what he considers to be a sphere of influence. ukraine, in his view, is unacceptable to interthe sphere of the west. to enter nato. i think his desire is to cut even talk of that off. here's these thousands of troops on the border, do what i want or else. >> russia's opposition is to ukraine getting closer to the west, leaning into nato, but you do have, i would note, a different ukraine in terms of military preparedness this time around than in 2014, right? you've got advance anti-tank missiles, drawing on u.s. intelligence, but an overwhelming adversary. how prepared is ukraine should there be an incurring? >> not only is ukraine not a member of nato. >> right. >> in reality, what you are hearing over and over again from the biden administration, expressions of serious concern, you will hear that from nato foreign ministers. russia could take over ukraine, potentially at great cost. there's very little -- it's highly unlikely the u.s. would come into direct military conflict with russia. of course, it's not in a position to do so. we don't have a guarantee 6 mutual assistance, as we do with the other nato members. unfortunately ukraine is very, very vulnerable when it comes to russia. >> reporter: the conflict in east ukraine that putin took over, when he took over the crimean peninsula. that has continued today in essentially a standoff. this is a destabilizing move, even if putin did not opt for a full-scale invasion of ukraine. >> there's been a real push by especially republicans in congress for the biden administration to do more, sanctions-wise when it comes to that pipeline. would that -- would you advise the biden administration to do that, to take extra sanctions, would that do anything? would it move russia's hand at all? >> quell, you know, that is the thing about being a journalist, we don't have to make the tough decisions on policy. but i would say this. you have round after round of discussions. they have certainly isolated russia to a certain extend financially. there's more that condition done. you're also hearing talk among republicans here in washington that there should be more direct military assistance. biden already approved assistance for the ucontain, $400 million in military assistance that donald trump held up, which led to his first impeachment by congress. it's not within the u.s.'s direct power to shut that down. germany would have to take a decision in the end. if russia -- ukraine -- you would see the germans finally cancelling that pipeline, frankly. it would be a huge, huge disruption in the european order for any military move right now by russia. >> susan glasser, thank you, and as always, happy thanksgiving. thank you. happy thanksgiving. next, official trying to curb rising case in europe. some countries are taking new measures. will it be enough? 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>> so, poppy, this is going to be significant, we believe, particularly the countries that are pushed into lockdown-like conditions. austria is the notable country so far. others have been reluctant to go that way, but they may have few options. covid is spreading rapidly. there's huge variation between countries, even within some regions. so there's still a lot of people who are vulnerable to infection and potentially serious disease. even move the vaccinations there are concerns that immunity may be waning. there's a push to get the vaccines programs going further, but there's an acknowledgement by health officials that would not be enough to close what they call the immunity gap twixly enough this winter. they are pushing for other restrictions. france today has said it is determined to not go the lockdown route. instead it's doubling down on the health system and once again making masks mandatory. cases are rising. there's very much a real cause for concern here in europe. it is not entirely clear how they will proceed through these months without implementing touch lockdown measures in some of the countries worse effected. >> phil black, thank you for that reporting. here in the u.s., the pandemic is affecting everyone, including farmers. their story is next. what a pain in the... alice? 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>> add that much, maybe more next year. >> reporter: the usda says the average dinner costs is up 5%. the farm buro says might be as much as 14%. they say pry hikes from potatoes to cranberries to turkeys, nearing a record high. despite the markups, many farmers say the price they receive seven going up. >> but your prices tay the same? >> or a little -- >> reporter: why don't farmer raise the price of their crops? >> they are price takers, now makers. >> much more of middle man than anybody else. >> reporter: processors and distributors that get the production are the ones passing look surging costs with materials and ingredients still stuck on cargo ships, and a shortage of labor and truckers driving up costs. >> we're paying for the uncertainly in the economy alone. we're in the middle of a perfect storm. i would say buckle up for a while longer, of these higher unput costs. >> reporter: some are stocking up. others are waiting for prices to drop, all these costs are threatening this farmer's california sweet potato farm. we were making $100,000 to $150,000. this year we'll probably lose $80,000 to $100,000. >> reporter: and it's getting worse. >> we would not have enough cash into the following year to get our operating loan in order to operate for the following year. >> reporter: farmers are used to volatility. they were both looking for ways to adapt like downsizing or shifting to other crops. >> i ain't going to let it keep me down. we will survive, somehow. >> reporter: as long as the money problems stop piling up. >> we just need a fair price for what we are growing. abe cohen, thank you for that important reporting. two people who became unlikely friends after a woman sent a text to the wrong number are keeping the tradition alive. she was thinking he was her grandson. once they sorted it out, he asked, could i still come to dinner? 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