video call? >> yeah. hi, fred. this video indeed highly significant because it centers on the international olympic committee president thomas bach holding a phone call with the three-time olympian. let's just remind everybody, she's also a two-time grand slam doubles champ. a huge sports start in her homestand. i can't stress that new. also important to stress here that beijing, which hosted the 2008 summer games will what, in just a matter of weeks now, fred, be hosting the winter games in early february of next year. i want to get to a statement this day, sunday, from the ioc which reads, quote, at the beginning of the 30-minute call peng shuai thanking the ioc for its concern about her well-being. she explained that she is safe and well living at a home in beijing but would like to have her privacy respected at this time. that is why she prefers to spend her time with friends and family right now. nevertheless, she will continue to be involved in tennis, the sport she loves so much. we also got this from the chair of the athlete's commission adding i was relieved to see that peng shuai was doing fine which was our main concern. she appeared to be relaxed. i offered her our support and to stay in touch at any time of her convenience which she obviously appreciates. friend. i do want to make a few points off the back of this. i do want to point out according to the ioc peng has accepted an invitation to have dinner with bach when he arrives in beijing in january for the beginning of the games and one thing important to stress, a still photo was given and snen has not been given access to the video chat and also to reset for our viewers here the big picture, the context of this story which has taken on massive global interest and appeal. this it interview coming off with peng who publicly accused one of the vice premiers of forcing her to have sex with him in his home. from the world and tennis and beyond really i think it's fair to say we've seen peng's case taken up and highlighted by global superstars. i'm thinking of names such asps japanese superstar naomi osaka and serena williams as well and we got a really strong stance, too, from the wta, the women's tennis association head, steve simon works has been calling for more robust proof of peng's liberty and saying he quite simply is willing to lose hundreds of millions of business in china if not fully accounted for and her allegations against the former vice premier of china are not properly investigated. i think it's fair to say that the wta has ten events scheduled for 2022 alone in the forthcoming year. it's a highly lucrative market indeed for the women's professional circuit so that in itself speaks volumes. that is highly significant day as i said at the top. developments are fast moving through this day and the hours ahead. i'm sure we'll be staring across it very, very carefully. >> there is a been any response at all from the wta's receive simon about this video call? >> we're waiting for all the reaction to come into us. i do want to say what i've said before, that he's been absolutely front an center on absolutely not -- the threat is very clear and present, that hundreds of millions of dollars that he's willing to risk and pulling out the miss from china if it actually comes to that. a very, very strong and powerful stance indeed from the wta head receive simon. >> joining us to talk all about this gordon chang, a columnist for "newsweek" and the author of "the coming collapse of china." so good to see you. so what do you believe about this video call involving peng shuai? >> i think this video call, fred, is very strange. now, if you were peng and you wanted to reassure the world that you were safe and free to do what you would want u.would either call international media organization or you would talk to steve simon, head of the women's tennis association because simon has been leading the charge on your behalf. the ioc, international olympic committee, has been very, very quiet about this, and this suggests to me that peng made the call to thomas bach not because she picked him on her own but because beijing was freaking out that they might lose the winter games which start on february 4th, so it seems to me that this is an indication that the coercion on peng is real and it's continuing. >> so you believe the chinese government was commandeering likely this video call because in a couple of weeks, couple of months, the beijing winters games will be taking place, so besides feeling that level of skepticism about the intention of why reaching out to the ioc. do you believe what she's saying. do you believe that -- that that is indeed she speaking on her own will and accord. >> i don't, and the reason is we've seen a number of propaganda videos in the last couple of days, so, for instance, one from yesterday in the beijing restaurant. obviously the conversation was scripted. her coach and someone next to peng were talking in ways that humans don't talk. this is obviously an indication that they wanted to show that she was alive and well and the conversation took place on november 20. also, this video at today from the tennis tournament looks fine, and she is smiling and all of that, but the stands behind her are empty which indicates staging, so right now i don't think that we have a really good sense that she is free to act on her own, and, remember, these allegations are still out there, and these allegations are unprecedented in the history of the people's republic. >> and i guess there's so much skepticism, too, because there is precedence to speaking out, challenging authority there because, you know, of the kind of power that that government wields. people disaoh, you know, or are moved all of the time in that country. now you've got this high-profile tennis player, chinese billionaire jack ma disappeared after criticizing chinese regulators and the superstar head of the wei corporation. people, have i guess, mysteriously disappeared or been punished, and there is precedence. there is a trend there, and that has helped appropriate tate this huge concern for shuai, peng shuai. >> yes, and -- and in the last year or so, you know, it's not only the people you mention who had are just the most recent. we have those two citizen journalists from wuhan, and one of them is now close to death, john because she's on a hunger strike. this is a regime much more coercive than it's been in decade and this reminds us of the early days of the chinese people's republic. xi jinping reveers mao zedong and that's why we've got to be concerned when someone disappears like peng has just done. >> you talk about twitter and other social media outlets are not possible for general citizens to have access to, so what do you think generally chinese people are thinking, hearing about her situation? >> there's a number of different strains because obviously china is a big country because you hear a lot of skepticism about the videos that have been shown because people are just saying what everybody else around the world has been saying and that is let peng speak. let her speak freely. of course, there's some nationalist comments that are against the women's tennis association, but, you know, in general, people don't know about this because beijing has been diligent in scrapping social media posts. peng's initial post was taken down within 30 minutes and all references to tennis have been scrubbed in the last couple of weeks, so this is really a very relentless, determined response by the regime. >> it's very concerning and concerning for her for her. it's very real and widespread. thanks so much. >> thank you, fred. coming, the manhunt continues for a convicted felon whose gun went off inside atlanta's airport causing major chaos and panic. we'll bring you the very latest next. and later an investigation is under way in new jersey after a starbucks employee came to work with hepatitis "a" possibly exposing thousands to the highly contagious virus. motrin works fast to stop pain where it starts. like those nagging headaches. uncomfortable period pains. and disruptive muscle aches. you can count on fast, effective relief with motrin. people with moderate to severe psoriasis, or psoriatic arthritis, are rethinking the choices they make like the splash they create the way they exaggerate the surprises they initiate. otezla. it's a choice you can make. otezla is not an injection or a cream it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. for psoriatic arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. ♪ ♪ ♪ we're carvana, the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100% online. now we've created a brand-new way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. your shipping manager left to “find themself.” leaving you lost. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire developing right now. a search is under way for a man whose gun went off inside one of the world's busiest airports scaring travelers and temporarily grounding flights. the incident happened saturday at a security checkpoint at atlanta's hartsfield jackson international airport. police say 42-year-old kenny wells grabbed the gun that was in his bag as the bag was the being searched by the tsa, and that's when the weapon went off. at least three people were injured, not by direct gunfire but during this chaotic airport evacuation following the chaos. cnn's nadia romero joins us live with more on the search for the suspect. >> reporter: yeah, fred, that's the biggest question out there. where is 42-year-old kenny wells? we have to back up to about this time yesterday. it was about 1:30 in the afternoon when the -- the police tell us and the airport security tell us that kenny wells lunged for his bag and tried to grab a firearm and that was load inside of his back and an atlanta spokesperson said it was an accidental discharge which just sent everyone into confusion and chaos. the problem though is what happened on social media. word got out from a pilot telling his passengers on one plane and then throughout social media that there was an active shooter until people responded accordingly, fleeing, running out of airport trying to get away to what they thought was someone intentionally shooting at people inside of a busy airport on a busy weekend before a holiday. we know that it was an accidental discharge and that three people were injured, but we're being told that those three people who were injured were away from this incident. now the airport says that they get calls for medical attention all the time, but they believe that those three injuries were not sustained because of this particular incident. but, still, the chaos that ensued, the confusion, people running out to the tarmac and people trying to get away was someone shooting, and then you have the ripple effect of the flights and the delays and the ground stop. although it was temporary it still caused this ripple effect. here's what we know about 42-year-old kenny wells and the charges that he's facing right now. >> we have identified the suspect as kenny wells, 42 years old. we have taken out warrants for carry and concealed weapon at a airport and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, discharging a firearm and reckless conduct. we are actively pursuing this individual as we speak, and, of course, once we've conduct our investigation here at the airport we were able to give the all clear and returned back to normal operations. >> and we're being told by authorities that kenny was able to get away, 42-year-old kenny wells, during all of the confusion, that he ran out of the airport. but, remember, this airport, the busiest one in the nation, the second busiest in the world has some 3,000 security cameras, and that is part of the reason why they were able to at least identify who he was. there's still some questions though. how did he get away and how was he not apprehended sooner, and that we're still trying to work on more details right now. fred? >> all right. let's talk about all those questions a little further. nadia romero, thank you, so much. with our next guest, cnn transportation analyst and former inspector general for the u.s. department of transportation mand reporter julia khayyam. what was going on and chief charles ramsey was also with us. mary, let's start with you. initial lit airport officials were calling this an accidental discharge. we've got a little more detail about how it happened. how are they trying now to evaluate not only how it got that far but the response time, you know, and just the -- the sequence of events that would follow. what will they learn from this? >> yes. well, what they are evaluating on is actually based on lessons learned from the 2013 airport shooting in los angeles. folks might recall back then there was an active shooter in the airport in los angeles, and he went through the airport looking for tsa agents to shoot or to kill, and because of that there were a lot of changes put in place. airports had to prepare for this. they had to have plans in place, et cetera, so what they are going to be doing is, one, evaluating the plans that they put in place after the 2013 los angeles shoot were adequate and also to give some, you know, quarter to the airport and technically it was an accidental discharge and he was apparently reaching into his bag, but at the point that he got the gun and was running through the airport with the gun, technically they had to respond as if it was an active shooter. i know there's lots of criticism on social media that this go the, you know, really expanded, but they -- they can't go into the mind of somebody running through the airport with a gun so they had to do this. including they spilled out on to the tarmac in the 2013 attack in los angeles and the 2014 attack in fort lauderdale so that will probably be necessary. >> and while they try to assess what happened and figure out how to prevent something like that, nadia reminds us they have some 3,000 cameras throughout the airport so i imagine they are spending a lot of time right now still trying to figure out the path of this suspect kenny wells from the point of discharge, where and how he ran. >> right. >> how is it that, you know, or if there were calls made, how was it he wasn't apprehended before he actually exited and where did he exit and once happened when he got outside? did he get on the subway, on marta, or did he get in a cab? >> they will be able to tell. they will look at surveillance and he will be found. i have no doubt about that. it will take a little time, but seems to me pick up on what mary said in terms of what happened. there's a security success and then three sort of security breaches or things that we'll want to look at. the success, of course, is that the system picking up guns and the tsa agent saw the gun and pulled the back. >> most of us don't have access to the bag so i'm sort of curious what happened at that moment as well goes for the bag. the second is his ability to get out, right, he gets out on the public side of an airport. that's still controlled by state police or local police so how did he get out and with a gun and not be stopped, and then the third, is of course, the communications. i agree with matter. we have to have, unfortunately, in this country sort of a no regrets policy. if a gun goes off, we don't know if it's accidental or not. you have to suspect it's an active shooter just given the prevalence of guns and, you know, the communication to the public, especially those in the airport, you know, should it have been faster once they knew that it was not an active shooter. i will say the airport over 450 weapons are confiscated a year at that airport alone. the permissiveness of gun owners and putting guns in their bags is something that we have to talk about because while i'm not blaming law full gun own, you know, there is something about a security system beginning to feel comfortable by a breach, right, so if you're experiencing a gun once every day coming across you may not have your -- you know, your backup to the extent as if it were a rarity so that's something that we need to penalize greater. >> there,will be a time of re-evaluation. you bring up a very great point, the critical moment when you put your bags through the machine, the magnetometers and then you're walking through, when they see something. when tsa sees something peculiar, they usually grab the bagwell before you're able to have access to it and ask is this your bag. okay, come over here. you get to grab your other possessions. grab the shoes, et cetera, but what was the proximity to the suspect being able to reach for, reach in the bag when usually you don't have the advantage of a short distance, mary. i mean, usually, they show you the bag and are putting it through another layer of inspection. that's going to be a critical moment that they will re-evaluate is my point. >> yes, that's right. also, they are going to evaluate just the physical layout which they do, and when they get to that point often they ask the passenger is there anything dangerous or anything in the bag that could hurt nip, and usually the officer is within proximity to the bag and while they will be re-evaluating, do you want the passenger to be able to reach the bag. at many checkpoints the passenger stands across from a mess al table so that's going to be an issue as well and i wanted to say, juliet, she's right, so many and we know the rights and what the constitution says, but what we've experienced in just two years is a 50% increase -- a 100% increase. in 2019 it was five guns per million passengers screened that the tsa was picking up. now they are picking up ten guns per 1 million passengers screened so they need new protocols just to deal with the volume and i think they will. i think they will develop them. >> thank you so much. good to see you both again, especially under the circumstances. still glad that the outcome wasn't as bad it is a could have been, still inconvenient. coming up, president biden now facing the daunting task of gaining the support of moderate democrats for his build back better bill. how will he thread that needle while still keeping progressives on board? 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>> arlette saenz as the white house. thank you so much. a cnn political analyst shows us and author of "political playbook." so good to see you. happy thanksgiving week. >> thank you so much. >> senators sinema and manchin have been worried about the cause of this build back better bill. should the white house be confident that they can get them on board? >> reporter: look, i think president biden just needs to stay the course here. these two moderate senators, yes, they are tough to work with and they have their demands, but they did signal an openness to this framework that was announced earlier this year and that passed the house so i think they are on pretty good footing. the problem that biden will have is that progressives see this as sort of the last train leaving the station. it's pretty much the last big bill that democrats will get to pass before they lose the house to republicans next year so there's a lot of republicans who want to dress this up like a christmas tree and put all their favorite goodies, you know, in this bill and the more they do that, the more likely they are to lose moderates like joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. one example is bernie sanders wants to expand medicare so he's still pushing for this behind the scenes. there's democrats who want more with paid leave so, you know, the more they pressure the moderates to add these things, the more likely they are to alienate them and that could be a problem. that's tricky business and they have some work to do but i do think they are on a good path right now. >> all right. let's push even further ahead, but, first, happy birthday to the president. he turned 79 yesterday, but sadly he's not getting a really great gift in the form of poll numbers. they are declining, but there are already people talking about 2024. if he were to run he'd be the oldest, you know, to seek re-election and then there's real jockeying for position reportedly between vice president kamala harris and transportation secretary pete buttigieg so a lot can happen. buttigieg was asked about this earlier today, and this is what he said. >> she and i are part of a team that is disciplined and doesn't focus on what's obsessing the commentators. we're too busy with a job to do. she was the leader in this administration, with her leadership role and i in the present and everybody else in the cabinet and across the administration are laser focused on getting the job done. >> all right. so he underscores there is a team and there is no jockeying for position, you know, with 2024 in mind is this a problem for the white house that this kind of discussion or response has to be had? >> i mean, look, they don't want joe biden to look like a lame duck president so naturally they want to shut this sort of tuck down and that's why you saw buttigieg sort of dodge there, but the reality is, look, president biden just turned 79. there's a lot of questions among democrats about whether he'll have the stamina to run. pretty much everyone i talked to doesn't think that he will so even though you saw reports -- the "the washington post" had a story over the weekend how president biden and his top advise remembers trying to reassure everyone privately he's going to run, he's going to run nobody believes it, and so typically in a situation like this, the number, the vice president would be the one that everybody looks to to take the mantel, but there are a lot of concerns that kamala harris doesn't have what it takes to win nationwide, and so that's why you have people saying, okay, who is going to be the party leader? right now republicans have a lot of momentum. there's a lot of fear in the democratic party about what happen, you know, when biden steps aside if he steps aside so this jockeying is going to continue, and you'll continue to see the white house sort of bat it back and people like pete buttigieg saying there's nothing to see here but there is. >> seems so premature for a lot of people and isn't that the case after inauguration there's discussion about four more years, what happens in four more years so we'll see. rachel, thank you so much. >> thank you. all right. coming up next, what you need to know about covid safety as you gather with your friends and family over the thanksgiving holiday. all of that is next. with a full exam and x-rays, with no obligation. if you don't have insurance, it's free. plus everyone saves 20% on their treatment plan with flexible payment solutions for every budget. we're here making smiles shine bright so you can start the new year feelin' alright. call 1-800-aspendental or book today at aspendental.com why hide your skin if dupixent has your moderate to severe eczema or atopic dermatitis under control? 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ing where everyone is vaccinated. it's going to be there without a mask. >> absolutely. absolutely. that's what i'm going to do with my family, and that's what i think people do. >> everybody is liking that advice. dr. nathan joining me right now. are you on board with that? will that be your advice to everybody? >> >> i think this is really food advice and is a good plan if everybody is vaccinated and the real push has to be for everybody vaccinated. the tough part in that is that kids group that just became eligible so they won't be fully vaccinated but at least if they have gotten one shot in, it's going to be a pretty safe situation, but there are other things that we can do to layer that safety and keep those numbers down so if you're going to be gathering with family try to cope it to a smaller number. maybe not 309 or 40 people indoors, maybe more along the lines of 10 to 15 and then testing. i think this is what we're going to be do, my family is doing is everyone is going to take a test. not at a lab but an at-home test. >> yeah, i think the home tests are very good to know, one, you don't have it so you're not shedding. if you get the negative test, you can be pretty sure that you're not shedding and passion the virus to others so we'll all test before we gather and that's an extra layer of safety. a pretty extra layer of safety. just to guarantee that we're not bringing this to our older family members or our younger family members who haven't been fully vaccinated yet. >> wow. you're very organized. great to impart on all of us. we need to get that organized. so the whole, you know, terminology fully vaccinated. most people have determined that as you've been vaccinated twice, but dr. fauci says that definition is probably going to change because of the whole advent and the necessity for booster shots. what do you think? >> we need more data here to know. i understand the push to say let's get that third dose. let's get the booster, especially heading into the winter, especially as we're seeing cases start to rise across the country. getting the booster makes a lot of sense because we want to keep numbers down of all cases and we also want to make sure we're not transmitting to others that were able to stay at work. i know where i work we always have tight numbers, and somebody calling out sick for two weeks can really mess things up. can really upset family lives so getting a booster makes sense. i think at this point we have been -- many of us have been resistant saying do we really need boosters when the first two doses of vaccine protect us against hospitalization and death but especially heading into the winter, heading indoors it's probably a good idea to go and get your booster. >> okay. >> and right now we're right on the edge of that winter wave that some experts, you know, have said to brace for. we're seeing spikes in some cases and some communities, confusion over the booster shots. what have you been experiencing and witnessing in the e.r. >> this is really interesting because what we're hopeful to see is that the vaccines continue to protect us against hospitalization and death so what we might see in rising cases, we're not going to see the big hits to hospitalizations. won't see the big number of deaths like we saw last winter, and if you look into jerseyy, we've had rising cases for two weeks but deaths and hospitalizations aren't markedly rights. we don't have a ton of cases, nothing like what we were seeing last winter and we're hoping that the high level of vaccination in our community continues to keep us protected against that. we really have to follow this and see and we also have to understand it's not just state by state by county but county so areas where vaccinations are 50% and i guarantee they will see rising hospitalizations and deaths whereas opposed to where i live and work the vags names rates are much higher and we're probably not going to see that. >> let's get away from covid for a hot second in your home state of new jersey. we got wind that this starbucks employee came to work knowing that they had tested positive for hepatitis "a," potentially exposing thousand of customers over the course of a few days and state officials are pushing vaccinations for the virus now to try and, you know, head off an outbreak and what's your take on that and hepatitis "a," how contagious and what can all those customers in the starbucks do? >> hepatitis "a" is very contagious passed by dirty hands, dirty food and then other people ingesting that virus as well. the last number, since the advent of the he "a it" vaccine we've reduce it had by 90%. most people that get hepatitis "a" will get better. it's a miserable course, vomiting and diarrhea not what you want around the holidays. so a vaccine makes sense to get protected and some small group will have liver failure as a result of hepatitis "a" and the question we need to work is why did someone come to work because calling out for work for two weeks might not be possible. many of these jobs don't have the best support for sick leave and that's what this person should have been able to have, paid time off to be sick to protect everyone around them. >> good point. >> employees at starbucks as well as the thousands of people coming in but we don't have that system. this person should have been guaranteed sick pay so they can stay at home and not get everyone sick. >> well, you're a wealth of information. doctor, thank you. good to see you. you laid a whole other stress on me. i was worried about getting the rapid test. i was just worried about what kind of sides i was going to have. >> happy thanksgiving, fred. >> happy thanksgiving. we'll be right back. bipolar depression. it made me feel like i was trapped in a fog. this is art inspired by real stories of people living with bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place... ...and be hard to manage. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be. latuda is not for everyone. call your doctor about unusual mood changes, behaviors, or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. elderly dementia patients on latuda have an increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about fever, stiff muscles, and confusion, as these may be life threatening... ...or uncontrollable muscle movements, as these may be permanent. these are not all the serious side effects. now i'm back where i belong. ask your doctor about latuda and pay as little as $0 for your first prescription. your record label is taking off. but so is your sound engineer. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire what happens if you ever need to miss work for a long time? 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