this is cnn breaking news. hello, everyone, i'm alisyn camerota, it's the top of the hour. >> i'm victor blackwell, a just released affidavit reveals new details about how guns were handled on the set of the alex ba -- alec baldwin movie "rust," a local prosecutor said no one has been ruled out for criminal charges in the death of cinematographer halyna hutchins, you're looking at what may be the final photo on set of hutchins. this afternoon, the d.a. and sheriff had a news conference, the first one on the case. >> as the man who pulled the trigger and a producer on the movie, does alec baldwin himself face the potential of criminal charges. >> all options are on the table at this point. i'm not commenting on charges whether they will be filed or not or on whom. no one has been ruled out at this point. >> the sheriff also revealed that investigators extracted the suspected live round that he believes killed hutchins from the shoulder of joel sousa, the director of the "rust," and 600 pieces of evidence were collected from the scene, including 500 rounds of ammunition, describing them as a mix of blanks, dummy rounds and what are expected to be live rounds. cnn's lucy kafanov is in new mexico with more on the new search warrant. lucy, what are crow lyou learni about it? >> reporter: we know from the press conference that at least three people handled the gun that was used in that accidental shooting, alec baldwin, rehearsing for the scene when the gun went off, hannah gutierrez reid, the head armorer in charge of safety, and assistant director david halls who earlier according to an affidavit shouted cold gun when bringing the weapon to mr. baldwin which should have indicated it was safe to use. in the newly released search warrant i should say the deputy on the scene describes conversations with halls and gutierrez. these are not exact transcripts. these are the conversations ass deputy remembers them but in his interview with halls, i'm going to read you a portion, it says during an interview with david halls when the detective asked david about the safety protocol on set in regards to firearms, he advised i check the barrel for obstructions. most of the time there's no live fire, and she, referring to hannah gutierrez opens the hatch and spins the drum, and i say cold gun on set. now, david advised when hannah showed him the firearm before continuing rehearsal, he could only remember seeing three rounds. he advised that he should have checked all of them, but didn't, and could not recall if she spun the drum. the detective also spoke to hannah gutierrez. she told him, according to the a affidavit that on the day of the incident she checked for quote dummies, blank bullets and ensured they were not hot rounds. when asked about live ammo on set, hannah responded no live ammo is ever kept on set. obviously this is going to be a big focus of the investigation. the investigation is still continuing. we have learned that alec baldwin had been interviewed multiple times and we know from authorities all three individuals who have handled the weapon have been fully cooperating with police, guys. >> the presence of three rounds there, how is that a cold gun? any explanation there? >> that's a question for investigators. that's a question for investigators and authorities. >> let me ask you this about hannah gutierrez. we understand you've got new details about accusations of mishandling guns on a previous film. tell us about that. >> reporter: yeah, so we know that this movie "rust" was the second time she worked as the armorer in charge of safety. the previous was one a film with nicolas cage called the old way. two crew members told cnn that she was the lead armorer on the set and she quote mishandled weapons, a key grip on the film "old way" told cnn she handled the guns in a reckless manner and urged the assistant director to fire her. he said, quote, there's a universal way to handle weapons on set, and immediately red flags went up when i worked with hannah. that is why i asked for her dismissal. this is why people get injured, quote, because of rookie mistakes. he described an incident in which gutierrez actually fired a gun near nicolas cage without warning. he described nicolas cage as shouting make an announcement, you just blew my expletive eardrums out, and walked offset, according to a source who spoke to cnn. we have reached out to the film producers for comment. we have not gotten a response just yet, guys. >> lucy kafanov in santa fe, thank you. let's go to washington now, dr democrats who can not agree what goes into the president's spending bill are trying to decide how to pay for it. senator joe manchin, one of the two moderates trying to lower overall costs is pushing back on the idea of taxing billionaires as an option to pay for it. >> that didn't take long. >> no. >> dozens of progressive house members are threatening to tank the bipartisan infrastructure bill again. cnn's manu raju is on capitol hill. manu, are they getting further apart now? >> it's really just hard to say, but it was very clear is that there are serious divisions on the policy and on the strategy, and both of which can sink both bills, both the larger package to expand the social safety net, to pump hundreds of billions of dollars in efforts to combat climate change and the separate bipartisan infrastructure bill, $1.2 trillion. that passed the senate. it's been awaziting action in te house. the division of strategy, it's unsure if the infrastructure bill can get the votes. steny hoyer wants a vote tomorrow on the infrastructure bill, and he's calling on joe biden to come and talk to house progressives and tell them that they should vote for this bill assuming they can get an agreement, at least an outline of an agreement on the larger bill, but an outline of agreement is simply not enough for the progressives. they actually want legislative language, and they actually want that bill to actually pass the house before they agree to vote yes for that infrastructure bill, and that's a process that could potentially take weeks. and moments ago, i caught up with alexandria ocasio kcortez who's a progress in the caucus, and making it clear she's not ready to vote for the infrastructure bill even if the president urges her to do so, because she wants to see the details on the larger bill. >> framework is not sufficient for you. >> we have had framework for six months. we need text. we need text. i think we can talk a little bit, there's flexibility around process but we need confirmed text. >> reporter: the infrastructure bill. >> i don't see how ethically i can vote. >> and pramila jayapal, the head of the congressional progressive caucus said there are dozens of members that have the same position. what dot democratic leaders do, punl punt the infrastructure bill because there's not going to be a bill to pass the house by tomorrow, certainly not by the end of the week. they're still negotiating on the larger package with joe manchin, and kyrsten sinema and manchin has pushed back on expanding medicare, a no go. bernie sanders on the left, liberals want that. paid leave for workers. joe manchin says no, liberals want that as well. you mentioned the billionaires tax, how to finance the overall package, manchin is resisting that as well. so as you can see a lot of difficulties for the party ahead, even as the white house and the democratic leaders are trying to get something together. when that will happen is anybody's guess, guys. >> manu raju on capitol hill, thank you: let's bring in cnn political analyst, and vp of digital content, natasha halford, welcome back. let's start with the president's spending package. first the question was what goes in it. now it's how do you pay for it. they blew through the end of september deadline, now you've got 40 democrats who were saying, the progressives saying we're not going to vote for the infrastructure bill if we don't get more than a framework. just describe for me the degree of distrust f there's a better word for it, give it to me that you see from one faction to the other. >> well, this is what happens when you are pushing through legislative mandate through something like reconciliation, right, you see all of these different factions coming out and fighting for what they think is important, and you know, victor, what comes to mind is repr representative cori bush saying it's not enough for me when talking about the idea of a framework, you know, being enough to move forward, and she said it's not enough for me, and folks like cori bush, they're asking to abolish poverty, right, they're thinking about these very big picture transformative ideas, and so they know how washington works, and they've said, essentially, that, you know, we held out. we delayed that infrastructure bill, and look what we got by doing that. if anything, they have more incentive to stand their ground and to advocate for what they want, and they're basically saying that, you know, to be a progressive caucus, it's not enough to have shared values, we need to be flexing our political muscle, too. >> look, some of these deadlines are arbitrary, some of them have real world consequences, and you know, president biden had hoped to have some progress on climate provisions, when he goes tomorrow overseas because people do look still to the united states as a role model on climate change or at least that's how the united states would like to be perceived, and so to show up empty handed, in other words, he can't even get u.s. senators or congress people on board, what's the message. >> absolutely, alisyn, i mean, i think the message is that they don't have it together, right? washington doesn't have it together and that democrats even when they have these majorities, albeit slim jomajorities still aren't able to push things through for their voters. you talk about the world watching, the voters are watching too, right, this democratic base, i always am thinking about voters of color who were told, these are the stakes, this is why you have to show up for these elections, and this is why your vote naerts, and you can't get things like infrastructure, and of course we're looking at the governor's race in virginia which i'm sure we'll talk about where, you know, terry mcauliffe is saying like give me something to work with, give me this infrastructure bill so i can show what democrats actually got done. >> let's do that now, natasha. let's talk about the virginia governor's race. what the party is giving him is more of what he has been telling voters is tying glenn youngkin to donald trump. let's listen to president biden campaigning for terry mcauliffe. >> terry's opponent has made all of his private pledges of loyalty to donald trump but what's really interesting to me, he won't stand next to donald trump now that the campaign is on. think about it. he won't allow donald trump to campaign for him in this state. and he's willing to pledge his loyalty to trump in private, why not in public. what's he trying to hide? is there a problem with trump being here? is he embarrassed? >> sounds like the president trying to go, president trump to come to virginia, and they think that would help terry mcauliffe. is this the argument that wins the race for terry mcauliffe. it hasn't stopped the polls from narrowing. it hasn't dropped the drain of independence from his fold. >> and that's a great question, victor, obviously this is strategic, right, i don't know, when you two were watching that clip, it reminded me of the school y schoolyard bull ri. c -- school bully. i think there has to be more than saying someone is like trump. we have heard it for four years. i think people have sort of reached this point of numbness. they know how absurd trump is, and so many candidates have decided to basically imitate him to get support. it actually works when candidates align themselves with trump, so, you know, i think this is a state where donald trump lost. right? he lost in 2020. he lost in 2016, but that doesn't mean that basically aligning youngkin with trump is going to be enough for some of those independent vote rs who ae willing to try someone different because they're dissatisfied with how things are going on a national and at the state level. >> president biden there employing the strategy known as if you're scared, say you're scared, speak to go glenn youngkin. natasha alford, thank you so much. told the house committee investigating the january 6th attack postponed its requests for dozens of pages of records from the trump white house. we don't know what is in those rec records, but we do know donald trump has tried to play the executive privilege card on more than 40 other documents, and we're also expecting to hear about a subpoena for a conservative attorney, john eastman, he's the one who drafted that memo outlining multiple ways to overturn the fair election results. cnn's ryan nobles is on capitol hill. why is the committee postponing this request? >> the big reason is because it is so many documents that the national archives needs to go through, and each one of these documents individually could be a lengthy court battle, so they want to be very specific in the information they're requesting because the former president has already issued this request to defend executive privilege, that means that each individual piece of information has to be adjudicate instead a court of law. they're not saying they never want to see these documents. they're deferring these requests down the road so they can get specificity to what exactly they're looking for and request those for when they're ready to have the lengthy court battle. you talk about the john eastman subpoena, and this question about when he will be brought before the committee. i actually just caught up with the chairman of the homeland security committee, also the chair of the january 6th select committee, bennie thompson, i asked about john eastman, he did say it's important to get minimum in front of the committee because of the things he was involved with on january 6th, specifically that memo that he wrote that he gave and delivered to donald trump in the white house, and outline add questionable legal strategy that the former vice president mike pence could use on january 6th. eastman backed away from the memo, said it wasn't a viable legal strategy but was recently caught on tape embracing it once again, listen. >> all your legal reasoning is totally solid. >> there's no question, but -- >> but, i mean, like, you know, supported and supporter, why do you think that mike pence didn't do it. >> because mike pence is an establishment guy at the end of the day, and all of the establishment republicans in d.c. bought into this very myopic view that trump was destroying the republican party. >> and so eastman's role in all of this, very important. he was supposedly in that war room at the willard hotel on january 6th and sowing doubts about the 2020 election, a big part of what drove the violence, and chaos on january 6th, one of the big reasons he's interested in what everyone knows about what happened on january 6th. now to this story, a judge says that the three men who were shot by kyle rittenhouse during last year's kenosha protests cannot be referred to as victims but calling them looters or rioters might be okay. and 5 to 11-year-olds could get a first dose of the covid vaccine as soon as next week. a panel of fda advisers recommended the pfizer shot, a doctor on that panel joins us ahead. ♪ i'm a reporter for the new york times. if you just hold it like this. yeah. ♪ i love finding out things that other people don't want me to know. mm-hmm. 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>> well, i'm not sure. i don't understand that either. i mean, that seems to be more prejudicial than the term victim, but i'm glad that viewers are getting a glimpse into courtrooms around the country. this is vastly different than watching law and order and thinking all of a sudden that you have a j.d. that was handed out by jack dorsey on twitter. everybody wants to play lawyer on twitter after they watch law and order. you get a chance to see many of the inequities that exist in the courtroom, and the state attorney just has to throw his hands up and still advocate for the victims in this matter. i am concerned deeply about the table that's been set by this judge for a not guilty verdict, and it's going to be extremely difficult for these charges to come back in a conviction based on the table that's been set. >> well, that's what i'm wondering about, so the fact that the judge is making this ruling, which as you say is kind of unorthodox, and as the attorney in the courtroom, no other judge in the county plays by the rules, does that set up the possibility of fill in the blank, an appeal, a mistrial, does it complicate whatever the finding will be in this case? >> well, i mean i think you have to let it play out. i think that this definitely is an appealable issue. appeals aren't heard until after the jury comes back with their guilty and not guilty verdict. i would be honest with you, alisyn, i had to take the bar exam more than one time. i may not be johnny cochran or thurgood marshall, but i do practice law, and i have tried many a cases and i can tell you that this is one of the things that i have never seen before, and this borderline is absurd, if not over the line of being absurd, and my problem with that is that it's going to be very difficult to have justice for these victims with this judge making rulings the way that he has. is appealable issue? of course. you have to get through the entire trial. i think the country is going to be watching not only the arguments made by the defense and the prosecutor in this, but now they will have their eye on the judge. what he's doing is illogical, and not bound in the law. >> bakari sellers, great to see you, thank you. >> always good to see you. thank you. dozens of progressives are threatening to votes against the infrastructure bill. we're going to talk with one of the vice chairs of the progressive caucus. >> a new poll finds one in four parents of kids will definitely not get their kids vaccinated against covid. a doctor on the fda advisory panel who voted to approve this shot has a message for those parents that we'll hear next. 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>> well, thank you for that, victor, and parents are right to ask questions. they should have all of their questions answered. in the case of the meeting we had yesterday as an fda advisory panel, the committee voted in favor of recommending authorization of a pfizer mrna vaccine for american children 5 to 11 years of age. your viewers should note that the recommended dose is lower than the adult dose. in fact, quite a bit lower. it is one-third the dose that's given to an adult. >> you've taught us before dr. levy, it's not about weight or huskiness, it's about age. an 11 1/2-year-old is not seen the same as a 12-year-old regardless of how much they weigh. >> by all means, and there are a range of opinions among american parents about development. victor summarized them appropriate. we have to understand, the questions i get from parents, are listen, doctor, we understand that vaccination is important. however, you know, covid is rarely severe in 5 to 11-year-olds, so why witare we immunizing them, exposing them to a vaccine. i remind parents we're at a delicate time in the pandemic. yesterday 50,000 americans were hospitalized due to covid, greater than 400 americans died due to covid yesterday. we have hundreds of american children have died of covid, including a couple of hundred in that age group of 5 to 11 with thousands being hospitalized or going to icus and many more with symptomatic infection, and of course these children can also spread the infection to older individuals, parents, grandparents, teachers. the main concern that was talked about in safety is the potential for heart inflammation. we call that myocarditis, but again, the dose is much lower, and that age group appears to be less susceptible to that, we believe, and usually self-resolves, overall, the committee made the assessment that the risks are much lower than the benefits. in other words, the benefit outweighs the risk and therefore we voted in favor. >> there was a member of the panel who had another concern, so let's listen to his reservation and then talk about it. >> i'm just worried that if we say yes, that the states are going to mandate administration of this vaccine to children in order to go to school, and i do not agree with that. i think that would be an error at this time. >> first, would that be an error if it's mandated, and then is it possible to mandate it considering this is just a walk up to an authorization, not a full approval for 5 to 11-year-olds? >> thank you for that, victor, and that's the key question of the day, isn't it. you know, i voted on the advisory panel, an advisory to fda. we do not determine mandates on that committee. it will go on if fda, if states make that determination, localities, myself, and other committee members expressed our opposition at this point as a matter of personal opinion, as a matter of personal opinion, our opposition to any mandate in this age range at this point in time, but it's not -- it's not our purview to determine that. >> that's really interesting about how that will play out because so many parents as we say, are still on the fence, thep they want to wait and see, and we have seen the cry about mandates so we'll see what happens. dr. levy, we appreciate your expertise in this. >> we believe it is important to make the vaccine available to children and families who wanted to choose to take it, including children with comorbidities and are at risk. thank you for the opportunity to speak this afternoon. >> thank you, doctor. in her latest attack on democracy, the freshman republican from georgia has a new angle on the deadly insurrection. s! they have customized solutions to help our family's special needs... giving us confidence in our future... ...and in kevin's. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected. ♪ your new pharmacy is here. to help you compare prices, and save on your medication. amazon prime members get select meds as low as $1 a month. who knew it could be this easy? 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>> no, what i have said very clearly, victor, is i think we need to reach an agreement with respect to the framework and see some legislative text in terms of what we actually will be voting on, and i suspect that that's going to happen. >> so is that a yes? >> during the rules committee proceeding. >> there are three options here, cong congressman, you will vote for the infrastructure bill if you get a framework, you will vote against it or haven't decided, which one of those is it? >> i guess what i'm saying to you, victor, i don't think it's a binary question. i think what i'm saying clearly is i am prepared to support the infrastructure bill provided we reach a deal on the build back better act, and i believe we're fairly close to getting there. i would like to be able to see the legislative text around the various programs that we are going to be putting into law, and i think a lot of members feel that way as well. at the end of the day i'm confident we're going to be able to reach a resolution. >> i tried three times on that one. let me move on to how you pay for it. there is the proposal of the billionaires tax, taxing those who make more or report income of more than 100 million for three consecutive years or have a billion or more in assets to pay for this plan. do you support that? >> i do support that. i think there are a number of different revenue options on the table. ultimately they all collectively will achieve one principle in mind, which is ultimately making sure that folks are paying their fair share, right, and at the end of the day, the investments that are made tin this bill wil be paid for and don't add to the deficit. i think it's important about what this bill will do for the american people, right, the programs that we are talking about investing, the revenue str streams, for example, the billionaires tax that will be used to pay for things like universal pre-k. i have a 3-year-old daughter, victor, like many parents in this country, i know how important preschool education is for her, and i believe that every single 3 and 4-year-old in our country should have access to those educational opportunities. that is a very well could be the reality that we create by virtue of the build back better investments in addition to expansions for health care, climate investments and so much more. really transformative investments across the board. >> let me ask you, you probably know this by now, senator man chin is against the potential billionaires tax. let's play what he told manu raju. >> are you supportive of the billionaires tax? >> i'm supporting basically that we do -- everyone should pay their fair share, and i don't like it. i don't like the con notation that we're targeting different people. >> if he's against it, it goes nowhere as everyone knows now, you need all 50 senators to vote to support it. so if that's out, taxing people who make less than $400,000 a year is out, gas taxes are out, a lot of the regressive tax is because they hit people at the bottom and the middle, we have the billionaire's tax at the top that's out. sinema is against the corporate tax increase. how do you pay for this if all of those elements, those options are off the table? >> victor, i can assure you it will be paid for, and i think that the conundrum that you're describing is precisely what we have some of our brightest minds in the caucus in the house and democratic senate caucuses working on at this moment in congress junction with the white house negotiating -- conjunction with the white house negotiating some of the finer points, i suspect we'll draft a package that will pay for the investments i've described. i think that it is very clear the president has been very clear that we will not raise taxes on any family in the united states making under $400,000. that's an ironclad commitment and one we intend to honor. again, as i said before, it is reflective of the fact that we have a very diverse democratic caucus. we're a big ten party and i think the richness and diversity of the views, we should respect it at the end of the day will come together on the vision that has president has laid out. >> we are certainly seeing the big tent. i know that the climate element is especially important to you, and you propose legislation to make sure as we're watching the fires out west that firefighters get an increase in pay, and something we don't talk about enough. mental health support as well. tell us about it. >> well, you're precisely right, as you know, victor, i represent northwest colorado, central colorado and northwestern colorado, a district that's bigger than the state of new jersey, and last year we had two of the largest wildfires in the history of colorado, both happen in my congressional district, and we rely on federal wild land firefighters to ultimately keep us safe, to protect human life and protect our communities, and i think it's important for congress to step up to the plate, and realize that we are pushing our federal wild land firefighters to a breaking point: the wildfires in the west only going to grow more pervasive and intense as a by product of climate change, and as a result, i think we've got to invest more in compensating our firefighters. they are woefully under compensated, as you know, earlier this year, the president made an executive order to raise the pay to $15 an hour. that was an important step but it was a first step. we've introduced bipartisan legislation with republican representative liz cheney, and democratic representative katie porter out of california and wyoming respectively to raise firefighter pay to guarantee housing and to also, as you said, ensure the provision of health and mental health benefits, the suicide rate amongst federal wild land firefighters is alarmingly high. i believe that we have got to make these investments. we've got to do them now, and make a bill on precisely that topic, and we hope to get that done in short order. >> congressman joe neguse, thank you so much for your time. now an update on queen elizabeth, she has cancelled a key appearance just days after a hospital stay, what we know about her health, next. ♪ i... ♪ ( ♪ ) ♪ i... i... ♪ ♪ i like it like ♪ ♪ i... ♪ ♪ i... ♪ ♪ i... ♪ ♪ i like it like ♪ ♪ i... ♪ ♪ i... ♪ ♪ i... i-i-i-i-i... ♪ (music fades) ♪ i... i like it like ♪ [oof] i'll also be needing, stain remover, club soda and a roll of paper towels. 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