>> strong cigarette game he had in that, where he held it, looking at it. looking at it is key. >> a lot of looking there. >> then talking out. >> he's got a new spoken word album out, in case you didn't know. >> he is on the show with me tomorrow night. is there any song that you would like to have him speak? >> well, he has a new album out so he very well might want to speak something of that. >> but i want to give him something he doesn't have on his album. >> try "rocket man" again. >> that's very original, coop. we want to throw him a little bit. he's going to be riding high. >> how about "tiny dancer"? >> that's my man. also my nickname in high school. tonight, the biggest pandemic problem no one has really talked about until now. >> the supply chain. >> the supply chain. >> the supply chain issue. >> the supply chain. what is it? the issue is like the blob from the early sci-fi movies, this mysterious mass of manpower, motivation, and business maneuvers that is moving slowly, smothering out economy and more. this video of cargo ships in the water off l.a. port. they're not just sitting. they are stranded. why? no one to receive. no one to offload. and no one to export. do i sound like shatner right now? back to news. this is the mark of the blob. and that's why the man who is most threatened by the blob, president biden, went there to take it on. >> the port of los angeles announced today that it is going to begin operating 24 hours a day, seven days a week. this follows the port of long beach's commitment to 24/7 that it announced weeks ago. 24/7 system. >> l.a. and long beach are key factors in this because they control about 40% of the shipping of american goods. listen, why i am calling it the blob? it's not to be funny, certainly. this is a nebulous thing. we know there are a combination of economic indicators that are conspiring to create a slowdown. but it depends on where and what to get you to a why. let's deal with what we know and what the factors are and what people think the fix may be. i'll tell you this now, this is something that's going to haunt us through the holidays. remember that. this will only get worse between now and the holidays. so if you want to shop for christmas, i would do it sooner rather than later. 40% of all the shipping containers that come into this country come in through those two ports. that's why they're doing this. they get another 60 hours of operation just this year. hopefully that will help with the backlog of more than 50 ships that are waiting to dock. but when we talk about the blob or the supply chain, there are many links. and you know what they say about change, right? only as strong as the weakest link. forecasts for home heating just came out. why are they going up? because everything will that needs to be produced or transported. just like it already does to feel up your car. heating oil is expensive. propane is going to be expensive. gas is expensive. i went to two different gas stations today. both were changing their price numbers as i drove in. why? look, feeding your family, same thing. you're going to see food costs go up. not having the people and equipment to make and move product affects everything. that's why everything seems to cost more. why it's harder to take care of your family. so let's deal with the why. why are we short labor and equipment? well, the? is the easier part of the analysis. why? because it's about making. people make, right? you have to make the parts. so you'll hear about a lot of people waiting on parts, okay? a whole product, you'll hear that also. but look for parts. you're going to hear about parts. cars, different -- you know, the trucks that are used for long haul supply. you know, even when we have the workers, a lot of the equipment is down. why? because they can't fix it. and without people working, things don't get made. and the things needed to take things, you know, to make them better, they don't get made. double delay. apple announcing production shorts on the new iphone. why? can't get it made. so less product. and then anything that does get made doesn't get where it needs to be, certainly not fast. why? you don't have the people to load, process, and transport. now, the next why. why is that true, which it is? why are we short so many workers? one answer. people are quitting their jobs like they never about before. this is a stat you haven't heard much of before, i expect. 4.3 million. that's how many people quit their job in just august. so why did they quit? vaccine mandates? no. that's mostly just a few thousand. surprising, right? for all the talk it gets. that's politics, not reality. now, 4.3 million, huge. unusual. why? people normally only quit when things are really good. more options, more chances for better pay. but that's not the case. unemployment is still high. for industry after industry, the story is they can't find enough workers. that's because everything stayed home because they're getting fat on those government checks? unlikely. why? they stopped months ago. and they brought most people to minimum wage. that's hardly easy street, that's hardly retirement money. we learned more about the why when we go from how many are gone to who they are. we're talking mostly about people who work in food, retail, and health care. the last one, we're talking 524,000 since february. now, one of the side notes in this big debate about letting insurance companies negotiate directly with big pharma. keep your eye on big pharma and health care's labor numbers. because if they don't get what they want, they're going to start talking about sweating employees, laying people off. they're already dealing with a shortage. but they're one of the biggest employers in the united states. and they're going to have tremendous leverage. keep that in mind. now, let's dig deeper and you'll see how it's all connected. you take the truck drivers we need to get the packages from the ships to your house. burnout. huge problem for years. we were 60,000 drivers short before covid. that number could as well to 100,000 in less than two years. across the spectrum, when you look at why people are quitting, money plays a role, but the far bigger reason is people don't feel valued. something may have changed during covid. either they were overworked to the point where they couldn't bear it, or they had time to think and process what mattered to them. this frustration, this unease with the status quo is something i hear a lot from you guys. it's a feeling we've seen amplified for profit by right wing media and companies like facebook. the current republican party uses those feelings to fuel its entire reason for existence. it's why you see so many on the right playing up fears about inflation. they want to be the agent of your anger at circumstances that seem beyond your control. fierce that seem to hit home when you see joe biden's numbers on the economy. that's why this moment, what we do right now, is critical. almost 80% of adults in this country are vaccinated. shots for kids may be coming soon. possibly a pill, so if you get sick, you don't get that sick. do we capitalize on these added ingredients? will that drive the next chapter of pandemic recovery? and if we don't get it right, will it drive chapter 7 and 11 bankruptcy cases that we'll see all over this country? few know the stakes better than economist and "new york times" columnist paul krugman. paul, good to have you. >> good to be on. >> the analysis at the top. good enough? >> i think the one thing i would say is, you know, we talk about a slowdown. it's not actually the case that less stuff is getting through to people. you look at consumption of consumer durables, sorry, economist jargon, but stuff like refrigerators, exercise machines, whatever, that's actually way up from before the pandemic. the problem is that people want to buy so much stuff that the supply chain can't handle it. so a lot of this is because people were not able to do -- still in many ways are not able to do what they were doing before so they've turned to things to take their place. you can't go to the gym so you buy exercise equipment. you can't eat out so you buy some things for your kitchen. it's not that we've fallen short, it's because people are trying to buy stuff because they're still scared of the virus. that's what's strained the system to the brink. >> so how do you factor in the attrition? what we've seen in people quitting their jobs and not wanting to return to the workforce. >> yeah, that's a different -- i mean, it's all -- it's all pandemic-related. but, you know, in a way, that's really hitting some of those very services that people weren't able to consume and now they're starting to go back to them. but the restaurants can't hire. that i think is because people -- you know, the pandemic led a lot of people to look at their life, what am i doing with myself. i really hate my job, do i need to go back to it? that, i think, is the best way to think of it. >> where does it go from here? >> well, to some extent, if the vaccinations -- you know, the delta wave seems to be receding. if vaccinations continue to expand and people start to return to normal life, some of that pressure, people won't feel the need to buy things to replace the experiences they can no longer have. that will take some of the pressure off. places which are really short of workers will raise wages. that's supply and demand. they will eventually raise the wages enough so that people come in. we may end up with several million fewer people working than we had before because they've decided they actually don't need or want to do those jobs. and we'll come to live with it. but this has been such a shock to everything, to the whole psychology of work, to the whole structure of things we buy, that we're having a hard time adjusting to it. but it's not permanent. you know, in the end, we have a resilient economy. it's just a little overwhelmed at the moment. >> what does it mean for the biden agenda? how important is this? >> that's really hard to say. right now the biden agenda legislatively is not being held up by supply chain problems, it's being held up by, you know, a little fraction of his party. but a lot of it depends really on what happens in the next year or so. i mean, if these things are alleviated, then by this time next year, we could be looking at a really clear economic boom and people finally having -- biden thought we would have a summer of joy and that didn't happen, but maybe we'll be having a spring of joy next year and people will be feeling good. that's really where we are. it's all about whether -- you know, this thing will get resolved. whether it will get resolved enough to bring biden's popularity up to the point where the democrats can hold on in the midterms, god knows. >> what do you think happens if this demand creates a price spike and you start to get inflation, what will that do in the near term to his fate? >> well, that's an interesting question. my guess is that it will hurt some. but i think mostly people -- it's more a question of how people are feeling about life. and if life is starting to get some of its appeal back -- i mean, it's a good jobs market, workers are quitting in part because they feel it's safe to quit, that's actually a good sign. and we're not at anything like the kind of real, you know, livelihood-destroying inflation that we had in the '70s and i don't think we're likely to get there. there is a question about -- you know, we could talk about that, but the question really is whether this spooks the federal reserve which raises interest rates too soon or, you know, just in general whether the kinks in our system manage to get worked out in time to help biden politically. >> moody's analytics reported monday supply chain disruptions, quote, will get worse before they get better. several analysts say this will last until late 2022 or mid-'23. >> you know, i mean, by all means, let's take these things seriously and try to plan for it. but, you know, did any of these analysts see this coming? i think a lot of -- there's a lot of tendency to extrapolate from where we are right now. and i just find it hard at a sort of abstract level to believe that a modern economy with all the resources ours has and all of the ingenuity ours has, is going to be unable to fix these -- what are fundamentally short term problems for that long. it is true, there's kind of a -- i keep looking at this supply chain stuff and thinking about the old children's song, there's hole in the bucket, can't fix this, can't fix that, down the line. there is an aspect of that. but in the end, really? a year or more than a year of not being able to get this stuff at least somewhat under control? it's hard to believe. >> part of the confusion will be enlightening, because the corporate sector hasn't had to think about how to please workers for a long time. i'm hoping this creates a leverage shift where these people have choice, these workers, they have leverage, and they have to be addressed at people who matter as not something to mitigate and keep as a cost point as low as possible, but to treat with the respect that many workers in this country crave. all right, paul, i've got to jump. i would love to have you back and i would love to have you on on a regular basis, you're a man in high demand, but the economy will be a big story for the next 12 to 16 months. it would be great to have you. >> thanks a lot, take care. >> take care, thank you. those cargo ships that are stalled off the shore are all headed in the same direction. segue. why can't the democrats? 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yes, the main holdup is not about the party, it's not endemic. it's individual. joe manchin. kyrsten sinema. some people in the house. but even they aren't on the same page with each other. nobody knows what's going on with sinema. so what does that mean for democrats down the line? and are they getting anywhere? top progressive congressman ro khanna joins me now. it's good to have you. >> good to be back on. >> i want to talk about, you know, what you just heard from paul, what it means. but just on the existential level, the idea that your opponents, right, in a binary system, it's half, are all in on saying you guys cheated the last time, they are changing the laws in states to allow you to not cheat this time, and they are going to do everything they can to find out ways to change elections that they lose in the midterms. do you believe that your party is aware of the threat and preparing for the same? >> yes, we are. and that's why it's not just, chris, about the january 6 commission. we not only have to hold trump accountable and defeat trump. we have to address the conditions that led to the rise of trumpism. and that is the systematic deindustrialization in this country. that is the systematic disrespect of the working class. that is the lack of pride and hope that so many millions of americans had. and that's what the president's agenda, the build back agenda, is all about. it's about restoring hope and dignity in this country so that trump's xenophobia doesn't resonate, so we don't have the conditions that gave us donald trump. >> so where does it stand in the state of play? is it checking all the boxes, but how much money for each? or is it about making choice about which aspects programmatically you will fully fund? >> it's about making choices and it's about following this president's lead. every member of congress including me, the progressives, we've had our say, it's time that we unify behind this president. he has a compromise. let's get behind it. let's get it done. we need to deliver. and now is the time for us to do that. >> is it all of the boxes checked and how much money for each? or are you going to leave some programs out to fully fund others? >> i would rather we do all of the president's vision, that we give people childcare so they can get back to work, that we make sure every kid can have preschool, that we make sure our seniors can afford to go to a dentist or get eyeglasses. but if this president says we have to have compromises, let's get it done. we have to ask a very threshold question, chris. are we better off today than we were one year ago? let's just remember one year ago where we were. we had no control over this pandemic. people couldn't go to football games. we had unemployment at 7%. now we have 200 million americans vaccinated. we have this pandemic under control. it's going to get better after delta. we have unemployment at 5% and in the right direction. people are back at football games. it's not perfect. there have been mistakes. but we're a year into it and this president has made life better. >> do you have any better idea about what it takes to get your two, you know, difficult senators to be less difficult? >> i think we just have to continue to say we're flexible, we're behind this president, and isolate them and say, why are you not for a compromise? tell us what you want. and what you're hearing from progressives -- >> you still don't know what they want? really? >> i don't know what senator sinema wants. she says she only tells the white house that. she doesn't tell the speaker. >> and they don't tell you? what is going on here, ro? how can it be that you guys don't know what each other wants? >> the president knows. that's why the president needs to make the deal and we need to get behind him. i think if he gets senator manchin and others on board and then we isolate it to one senator, senator sinema, i think we'll get it done. we have to show flexibility and trust his judgment. he went across this country, he heard the pain of the working class. he has a vision to make life better. we need to deliver and we'll be proud once we deliver these two bills. i'm confident we will. >> speaking of confidence, last question, pelosi set the date to have that first vote. you and i discussed it a couple of different times. i didn't understand it. it didn't work out well. now she's saying she wants it by the 31st. again, why is she creating a deadline when you guys are not ready for it? >> chris, if you don't have a deadline in washington, nothing happens. now, we both know you don't always meet the deadline. but you have to have a deadline to have any possibility of getting something done. i am confident that we're going to get this done, whether it happens exactly on this deadline or not, i don't know. but we will deliver this. and if it weren't for that deadline we wouldn't have progress. >> congressman ro khanna, appreciate the straight talk. good luck in doing the work of the people. >> thank you, great conversation with krugman, you should have him on all the time. >> that guy's smart, huh? 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because he's funny, that's why. and it's his attitude towards life and making fun of himself and making fun of what stresses people out. he went into space and he had a ball, at age 90. he got to finally make a real trek to the stars, or close enough. boldly going where no man or woman his age has gone before. the edge of space. this was a voyage to watch. a show in the sky over a west texas desert. shatner blasting off with three others on board. a new "shepherd" spacecraft developed by blue origin, a rocket company of course owned by billionaire jeff bezos. the same craft that took bezos himself to space this summer. so they went 65 miles up, at more than 2,000 miles an hour, okay? and the most captivating show ended up being on the ground after. why? because of shatner's completely authentic, human, just sense of being overwhelmed by what he just experienced. it's worth a watch. >> so moving. this experience, it's something unbelievable. you see -- weightlessness, my stomach went up, it's so weird. but not as weird as the covering of blue. oh, it's one thing to say, oh, the sky and the fragile -- but what is unknown is this pillow, this soft blue. look at the beauty of that color. and it's so thin. and you're through it in an instant. is it a mile, two miles? >> it depends on how you measure, maybe 50 miles. >> but you're going 2,000 miles an hour. so you're through 50 miles at whatever the mathematics is, it's like a beat and a beat and suddenly you're through the blue. and you're into black. what you have given me is the most profound experience i can imagine. i'm so filled with emotion about what just happened. it was extraordinary. extraordinary. i hope i never recover from it. i hope that i can maintain what i feel now. i don't want to lose it. it's so -- so much larger than me and life. it hasn't got anything to do with the -- it has to do with the enormity and the quickness and the suddenness of life and death. oh, my god. >> it's so beautiful. >> beautiful, yes, beautiful in its way. >> i mean your words. i hope i never recover from it. i hope that i can maintain what i feel now. i don't want to lose it. it's so -- so much larger than me and life. it hasn't got anything to do with the -- it has to do with the enormity and the quickness and the suddenness of life and death. oh, my god. >> it's so beautiful. >> beautiful, yes, beautiful in its way. >> i mean your words. >> oh, my words. >> it's just amazing. >> i don't know, i can't even begin to express it. the vulnerability of everything, it's so small. this air which is keeping us alive is thinner than your skin. it's a -- it's a sliver. it's immeasurably small when you think in terms of the universe. so quickly. 50 miles and you're in death. >> this is life. >> this is life, and that's death. and in an instant, you go, whoa, that's death. that's what i saw. >> that's amazing. that's amazing. >> i am overwhelmed. >> right? i mean, it's just so real. and it's interesting on so many levels. he's an actor but he's not acting. this is completely authentic awe from somebody who spent so many years trying to make us believe that he understood what it was to be in space when he never had any idea. but he does now. so we're going to give him some time to process. and i have found that when somebody goes through something like this, that really was shaping, it was a shaping experience for him, it will be interesting to give him a moment and then talk to him about it, right? so tomorrow, we have the captain. he's going to be live on the program. now that he had a chance to process, what does it mean to him? what does he want it to mean to us? how did it change him? because at 90 years old, with all the life he's had, all the experiences, all the fame, all the iterations of his existence, the chapters, why did this one mean so much to him? and what is the lesson in that for the rest of us? i can't wait to have that conversation. hopefully you'll have it with me. we'll bring him on tomorrow night and it will be fun. and i want to kind of tee us up for that. let's bring in a real astronaut, former nasa astronaut massamino, one of mine, italian. what does it mean to see how overwhelmed shatner is and by what? 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nasa astronaut mike massamino. good to see you, brother. >> chris, great to see you, thanks for having me on. >> what is it like to see shatner, is it like being a pro guy who is seeing somebody at his first time? >> hearing his expression of what he saw, what he felt, i felt very similar. i think most astronauts do. as professional astronauts, though, we're there to do a job, repair things, fix stuff, explore and so on. but we also get that emotional part of it, the experience of being there. i kept mine in check, i think, my emotions. even when i got on the ground, and it hit me, chris, when i got back to crew quarters, after we got medically checked out and had a short press conference, i got back to my room in crew quarters, i was thinking about this today, it was the same room i had left that morning, two weeks earlier that i had left the planet, and everything looked the same but i had changed so much. and i thought about the beauty i had seen during my mission. and i broke down and started crying. all that emotion just was built up inside of me for two weeks and it let itself out. i had a long, good cry, got myself together, put on my jeans, and met my crewmates for lunch. that's how it went for me. the emotion of seeing our planet, it was a paradise. i thought i was looking into heaven. he also mentioned the blackness you see there. you have a blue sky, but the stars are always out, we just can't see them because the atmosphere is in the way. you get above that and you see the stars in the black sky. you see the sun in a black sky. and you look out there and you realize that there's no other option for us. we've checked out the neighborhood. you have darkness in one direction and in the other direction you see our beautiful planet with the thin atmosphere. and you realize, we have to make this planet work. it's beautiful and it's also very crowded. i thought he expressed it very well. >> are you okay with people going on these space flights? >> yeah, i think it's great. >> because some people, you know, in your field are like, leave it to the pros, this is like, you know, tourism. what do you think? >> i think that anyone who can go and get that perspective is worthwhile. i think it makes the world a better place. i think we also have different perspectives and different ways of expressing what we've seen. he went up there, william shatner went up there as a professional actor, a person who can express his feelings. as a 90-year-old person that's lived on our planet for a long time and had a chance to view our planet from space and what it's like out there, even just for a few minutes, and he can come back and explain it to us and get us excited and make a difference in our lives by hearing what he saw. and i look forward to what he's going to tell you tomorrow night too. so i think that that makes our world a better place. so it doesn't just have to be professional astronauts. i think the great thing about the technology we have now and the automation that makes the training time smaller, so you don't need to train for years like i did to get an experience in space, is wonderful. and hopefully the usability will help bring the cost down so and more people can experience this. >> thank you for your service to the country, and it is an added source of pride. one italian-american to another. you make us proud. be well. >> thanks, buddy. >> i'll talk to you soon. >> great seeing you again. >> always. big news on the january 6 front. the house select committee investigating the capital attack just subpoenaed a central figure in trump's coup attempt. someone who may have been trying to help him overturn the election. the panel spoke for hours today to another trump doj official. this one who didn't cave to pressure put on him by trump. where does it all lead? 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do you get to say listen, until i figure out this issue we're not going to compile? you don't have the right to withhold your response to a legal subpoena because you think there is an existing legal issue. >> you're absolutely right. of course, mr. bannon doesn't get to make up the law as he goes along. this is a legally binding subpoena. he needs to show up, provide the documents, provide his testimony and chris, if you look closely at that letter, it says over and over again, because the president is exercising executive privilege, well, guess what chris? donald trump isn't the president anymore. >> right. >> he doesn't get to decide because he sends the letter. we know the biden administration has been waiving executive privilege, letting witnesses testify ordering documents to produce, bannon doesn't get to invent his own law. >> now, jeffrey clark is the most interesting character in all of this to me. the doj official who helped assert lies about election fraud and really tried to architect a way around legitimizing the election. how significant to you and what do you expect of his response? >> clark is a significant figure. he was the most senior person inside the trump justice department who was pushing for trump's coup undercover of law making outlandish statements. he circulated a letter. chris, thank goodness that his superiors, mr. donohue and mr. rosen did not go for it. they rejected it out of hand with the absurd notions that there was improprieties in georgia and the georgia leg legislature should overturn the election. clark is a key figure and needs to answer that subpoena. >> you believe that the meeting with the acting a.g. under trump, jeffrey rosen, you believe that what came out of it is a sign that the committee is winning. why? >> chris, there's been a lot of focus on the coming contempt likely criminal contempt against those who aren't cooperating but there is much more cooperation that's happening. you have mr. donohue and mr. rosen, mr. clark's bosses who have gone in to testify, first to the senate and then to the house committee. you have the white house authorizing the disclosure of executive privilege documents. you have others cooperating confidential providing information. that information is pouring in and unlike the contempt litigation, chris, if it comes here, it's up to donald trump to go to court and shut it off so the burden is on the other foot and guess what, that information is going to go when the committee writes its report, maybe sooner right into the hands of federal and state prosecutors including the fulton county d.a. already reports she's cooperating with the committee investigating trump for solicitation of election fraud in georgia. >> a little bit of color. do you believe that the four lawyers that are reported to have turned down trump did it because he doesn't pay or is that a reflection of that people don't want to get involved with this kind of soup? >> well, it's the worst of all possible worlds representing trump, chris. you don't get paid. your reputation gets dragged through the mud. you yourself might get meshed in his potential liability, civil or criminal. that's what happened to mr. clark. now, i was one of a group of ethics experts who filed a bar complaint. it is a mess for your career, your wallet and your reputation if you represent the guy. no go. >> norm eisen, you're always full go. good to have you. thank you again. >> thanks, chris. >> all right. let's take a break and let's come back and get after it with the handoff. and found some really cool stuff... it was just a lot of fun. just to talk to my parents about it and to send it to my grandparents and be like, hey this person we're all related to look at this crazy stuff they did in arizona 100 years ago. it actually gives you a picture of their life, so you get to feel like you're walking the same path they did. ♪ ♪ discover card i just got my cashback match is this for real? 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"don lemon tonight." >> that's the twilight zone. >> it was nice to see somebody be completely authentic and human in a public setting like the way shatner was. i'm glad it meant so much to him especially at that stage. >> think about it for those of us that grew up even reruns watching "star trek." it was a real, real treat. i would love to see what all the other characters, that would be great. some are not with us anymore. it was great and completely authentic. he was so grateful to jeff bezos for giving him the opportunity. he said i don't know what to say. someone like william shatner, a very seasoned actor, very pro when it comes to public speaking like blah, blah, blah i don't know what to say. it was great, don't you think?

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