over 60% of everybody feels like they're not sleeping well right now. >> listen. i've had issues sleeping. you know, there's -- number of reasons that i won't give here but a lot of it has to do with what we do, the people who come after us and all kinds of things. so i've had that issue. but okay, you know, fine. i'm a big boy and we have the privilege of having this platform, so there are tradeoffs, but i think the key to all of this when you tell me i sleep too much, naps. wherever i can get a nap, i can take a nap all day and i think more speem should do -- >> especially since you bogarted my bed in the back of the suv. >> no, it's mine. i got my own. >> i know you did. but you know where you got the idea. >> yes, from you. >> chris and i during covid -- >> he called it the hearse. he said you're laying in it like coffin. >> we were commuting 2 1/2 hours every day during quarantine. chris does it more than i do. so we both put these beds in the back of the car so that -- i had to do it because that's where my fiance wanted to be and there are tradeoffs and you have to make sacrifices. he has family on the east of long island. that's where we lived during quarantine. i was in the city every single day, every single night working. so i was here and there. you abandoned the city. i was here working. but i would just sleep there. yeah, listen, i think wherever you can get sleep you should get it. if you can take a nap during the day like they do siestas or people who do tm, which i have been trying to do, where you take a couple minutes for yourself every day, at least 20 minutes, i think you should do it because you don't get to get that, you know, seven to ten or whatever it is that people need every single night. and it's very important that you get sleep. >> i also wonder do you think it's healthier for a relationship -- look, if somebody's got sleep apnea or something like that, something that's causing a medical condition with snoring, you can't sleep next to them. >> tim sleeps. tim snores. >> that's different. >> yeah. >> but do you think it is healthy for a relationship for the people to sleep in separate rooms on a regular basis? >> well, i think it should be an option. i don't know if it should be on a regular basis every single night but i think it should be options, especially when you have dogs and don't tell me you don't know because you have that little dog and it's been in the bed with you -- >> that rat dog is in the bed every night and one out of every three nights she wants to go when i'm getting in the bed because christina is already asleep when i get home. i get home after midnight. >> same thing. >> that dog, this rat rescue chihuahua hot dog that, you know, came from a rough situation will go at me under the covers like some kind of crazed mongoose. >> well, she knows. she knows what the problem is. hey, look, again -- i know people think it's light hearted but it's a good conversation to have about i think people -- i think sleep, most important thing. sleep and water. right? you have to have a good diet. you have to drink lots of water and you have to sleep. everything else secondary. i do believe. >> and if you're blaming somebody when you are sleep deprived, you're not at your best, and if you blame somebody for that that's going to get ugly early. so i do think that it's -- you know, what harry fell onto with the stats is people are figuring out that they've got to do what works. and that's sticking to tradition may not be the best thing. >> go home so that you don't wake christina up. >> i'm not allowed in any other bed in our house. by the way. this is a new problem we'll have to have harry research. my wife, it's like i'm a guest in there. i'm not allowed to touch anything. i'm only allowed to be in certain rooms. i can't wear shoes anymore. >> yeah. well, there you go. the couch is mine. remember. i've fallen asleep on that couch many nights. >> i have seen you there. and let me tell you, he talks when he sleeps and -- >> goodbye. go home. >> i love you d. lemon. >> have a good weekend. love you too. this is "don lemon tonight." trying to have a little bit of humor on a friday night. it's been a long, long week. but you know what? this is "don lemon tonight" by the way. you know who it's been a long week for? the president. this is a week the president and democrats are probably happy to see end. the biden agenda still hangs in the balance. the democrats are deeply divided. the debt ceiling fixed but just for the moment, temporarily, right? the majority leader chuck schumer took to the floor with an angry partisan speech last night after that vote. take a listen to it. >> leader mcconnell and senate republicans insisted they wanted a solution to the debt ceiling but said democrats must raise it alone by going through a drawn out convoluted and risky reconciliation process. that was simply unacceptable to my caucus and yesterday senate republicans finally realized that their obstruction was not going to work. >> oh, boy. well, why would he do that? it's not the tone that anyone was looking for. maybe look, you feel there is truth to it but read the room and read the country right now. and read the polling. so i'm going to play it again. all right? i want you to watch senator joe manchin behind senator schumer. see him there? with his head in his hands. shaking it no. well, yeah, he's all of us right now. about a lot of things right now. we're going to come back to the biden agenda in just a minute. i want you to look at what we learned about january 6th and executive privilege. trump wants everything kept locked up. some of his team responding. bannon not playing ball. >> the quiet part out loud today, the anxiety, pearl clutching is the democrat party's fear of the return of trump. that's where all these committees are. that's what they're trying to do. the justice department is this. the senate that. dick durbin's got the long face. the return of trump. and it ain't going to be in 2024. it's going to be in 2022 or maybe before. as we start the decertification process out in arizona. >> you never know where he's going to be from one day to the other on the trump -- on trump. so listen, the house select committee investigating the january 6th insurrection got a major boost from the biden administration, which is refusing to assert executive privilege on the first batch of documents from the previous administration that the committee wants to review. >> the president has determined that an assertion of executive privilege is not warranted for the first set of documents from the trump white house that have been provided to us by the national archives. we will evaluate questions of privilege on a case by case basis but the president has also been clear that he believes it to be of the utmost importance for congress and the american people to have a complete understanding of the events of that day to prevent them from happening again. >> so the disgraced twice-impeached former, or ex-occupant of the office as we would expect blocking the release of the documents and threatening to sue. very litigious. very litigious. that's what he's done to our society. contributed to the litigation. what is he trying to hide? he's intent on gumming up the work of the committee and hopes that the gop retakes the house in 2022 and disbands it altogether. he's told four of his loyalists not to comply with the subpoenas. the first deadline to cooperate was last night. now, we're told that mark meadows and kash patel are engaging with the committee. not sure what that means exactly. the status of dan scavino unclear, and bannon basically telling the committee to take a hike. and then there's the family feud with the democrats, if you can even call that a family anymore. a group of people supposedly playing on the same team supposedly who can't agree on how to turn president biden's infrastructure and economic spending plans into law. the president expressing frustration at members of his own party as his agenda hangs in the balance. >> these bills are not about left versus right or moderate versus progressive or anything that pits americans against one another. these bills are about competitiveness versus complacency. they're about opportunity versus decay. they're about leading the world or continuing to let the world pass us by, which is literally happening. >> the president making a rare trip to capitol hill to rally his troops. >> i'm telling you, we're going to get this done. >> when? 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what do you think of that? >> i think trump, as we know, if there's some way to gum up the works he will try to do it. i don't know -- will you bear with me a moment? because i've been thinking about this and talking to people and living it like you and lots of people, and if you go back to the nixon case in watergate, 1972, 1973, the investigation focused on the watergate burglary, that one episode, and then the reporting showed that no, it wasn't isolated, you have to look broader. and so we started looking at other espionage and sabotage and realized that to understand watergate you had top understand this, the frenetic illegal fund-raising from corporations. so i wonder if the january 6th committee and that investigation in the house took a page from that period of investigating nixon and actually broadened their investigation, not just look at the insurrection or the effort trump has made, which is really over the line, to say the election was stolen, but look at the national security implications of what trump did. and bob costa and i found that those are quite substantial, that trump was doing things that enraged and worried the chinese so they thought we were going to attack them. at another point they thought we were going to write two days after the insurrection that maybe the united states would collapse. general milley had to kind of put some call in to people who run the war room in the pentagon and say you're not going to take military action or use nuclear weapons unless i'm involved in that process. these are extraordinary dangerous moments and if you look at them, i think there is more there and certainly it's much more serious than some of these things we're looking at which are incredibly serious by themselves. >> you say, you know, lots of -- i hear people all the time saying trump is gone and why are you looking at that. why are you investigating that? why are you still talking about that? but i think you're correct, as you write in your book "peril" about january 6th be being a dress rehearsal and the danger of misinformation -- disinformation. so how concerned about the future are you about our democracy? >> of course, yes, clearly something to worry about. anybody who has looked at this, is deeply worried and the remedy is understanding trump completely across the board just like nixon. if you just took one piece of nixon you didn't get the whole and i think trump is exactly the same and it's very important to take a comprehensive look. yes, you're right, this puts democracy on the line in a very serious way but it puts our national security on the line in an equally serious, if not more important way and you only -- look, as trump is going to be in our lives for more months, more years, we need to know more about him. bob costa and i found if you take the time, we had the months, start looking at this, i mean, the element of surprise we had when we discovered these things about a national security crisis that the chinese thought we were going to attack them, this is the most worrisome moment for anybody in the military. >> of course, but let me -- what happened to the guardrails then bob? even in the senate we're seeing this constant brinksmanship with things like the country's debt. which could destroy the economy. how does the country get back to a place where truth and customs actually mean something? >> yeah, i think this is a great question, and i take a lesson from the old editor of the "washington post," ben bradlee said the truth emerges. sometimes it takes weeks, months, years, even decades and the only way to get that full proof or the best obtainable version of it as we say is to do the work and look at the whole trump enterprise. it's extraordinary. it -- i mean, if you just look before the election, what he was doing. he was talking publicly incessantly about the chinese virus, pinning it on them, saying things like oh, millions of foreign ballots are going to flood into the united states. he said at his nominating convention last year, he said well, if i don't win, it means the election was stolen. he laid the groundwork for all of this. anyway, i -- costa and i found if you talk to people, go back as you point out, look at the documents, insist on getting the documents and notes, you get a fuller picture. i don't think we want as a country to leave this trump era without knowing a lot more because -- >> that's true. >> -- there is a lot more to know. >> yeah. bob, thank you. bob, your book "peril" with robert costa is a blockbuster, a bombshell. lots of bombshells in the book. and i would encourage everyone to pick it up. thank you, bob. have a good night. appreciate you appearing. >> thank you. >> they lost $70 million. trump claimed he was making money hand over fist in his d.c. hotel but financial documents tell a whole different story. $70 million he lost. it's not the first time. that's next. you could wait... all night... for an email response from steve, who will sign back in at 9 am tomorrow morning. orrrr... you could find the answer right now in slack. and give steve a break. slack. where the future works. welcome to allstate. where you can pay a little less and enjoy the ride a little more. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ now, get new lower auto rates with allstate. because better protection costs a whole lot less. you're in good hands with allstate. click or call for a lower auto rate today. did you know some deodorants may not last all day? 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and so what did you think when you heard this? >> well, when i watched the special, i felt kind of disheartened that he was continuing this attack on the trans community. i think we love to say oh, comedians are just telling jokes. like that's what they do. but i think it ignores the fact that they have platforms and those platforms, the rhetoric that they espouse has real world consequences. for a lot of cis-gender straight people who don't know trans people in their everyday life, their first interaction with trans people is through the media. it's through what they watch, through what they read. so if the only things that they hear are these constant misconceptions about our experiences, demonizing words about who we are, saying that we're not women if we're trans women, saying that trans men are not men and on and on, then they're going to actually bring that into their everyday lives and that's why we see high rates of violence. 38 -- at least 38 trans gender and non-conforming folks have been murdered this year. we will continue to see more pieces of legislation put forth that actually impact young trans people. and so i think that's also the other thing too, is that people get so fixated on the adjective of trans, right? the trans part of it. but we are human. and i think that chappelle did a sloppy job of speaking to our humanity. >> yeah. there is a part in there where he talks about his friend, right? and he said his friend said, you know, i'm not asking you to understand, i'm just asking you to listen and i'm telling you that i'm having this experience and that i'm a human being. so did you -- is there any part that is redemptive in there or is there anything you would like to, if you had a discussion with chap chappelle, would you -- what would you say to him? >> well, i think what is unfortunate is that he has not really grappled with the fact that as a black cis-gender straight man he could have easily used his platform to talk about the tensions that exist within our own community as black folks, right? i think that there's a way that he and other black cis-gender straight comedians kind of gloss over the fact that black lgbtq plus folks exist. so it's easy for him to paint the lgbtq plus community as purely just the white community. there are all these ideas that queerness and transness and all these different things are white inventions. and that's just not true. black lgbtq plus folks have always existed. and i really wish he didn't spend so much time only focusing on the fact that there are white people within our community because it lets him get off the hook. he doesn't have to hold himself accountable for the transphobia and homophobia that exists within our own community. >> well, look, some of the terms that you're talking about like cis and all of that, people may not be familiar with. and it's our job to educate people, right? so i just want to -- and to talk and tell people what gender identity is and transgender here. so let's set the record straight just so people know that gender identity is one's innermost concept of self as male, female, a blend of both or neither, how individuals perceive themselves and what they call themselves. one's gender identity can be the same or different from their sex assigned at birth. and then there is transgender, which is an umbrella term for people whose gender identity and/or expression is different from cultural expectations based on the sex that they were assigned at birth. so when chappelle says gender is a fact, what do you think of that? >> well, i think he along with a lot of the transexclusionary radical feminists, or t.e.r.f.s that he brought up, like to put forward this idea that trans people are saying that gender does not exist. that is completely antithetical to what many of us are actually saying. we're actually saying that gender is more complex than most people think, gender and sex are things but they aren't the exact same thing. and so the way that you are assigned at birth may be based on genitalia or whatever, it's not the same thing -- [ audio difficulty ] so on and so forth. so we're really saying that these things are more complex and it's actually not just trans people having a gender experience. everybody is having a more complicated gender experience. >> yeah. thank you so much, raquel. i appreciate you joining us. and getting your side out there. you be well. and i hope you'll come back and we'll continue these discussions. thank you so much. >> of course. thank you, don. >> i want to bring in now comedian flame monroe. hey, flame. how are you doing? >> hey, don lemon. how are you? >> i'm doing very well. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> listen, i've watched your netflix specials and a lot of you on the internet. i haven't gone to your show in person but i really do want to. so listen, your stand-up can also be seen on netflix. what do you think? do the jokes cross a line for you? >> well, see, i have three dogs in this fight. so let me start there. i'm black. i am a comedian. and i am transgendered. so i have three dogs in this fight. and i want to be fair to each and every one of those platforms. what i heard from dave chappelle's latest special was the overpouring of racism this he talked about because i understand that he's talked about the transgender community and some of the things were painful to hear but funny because as a comedian that is our safe place, that is where we are the safest on stage, where we should feel like we should be able to say anything. nina simone said it best. how can you be an artist and not speak about the times? he says it in socially inappropriate ways that people say is not politically correct but is teachable moments and there was no lies told. here's the hypocrisy for me, don. and i love my community, lgbtq plus. i'm saying it correctly because i'm still a comedian first but i'm going to be respectful tonight to everyone involved because i have three dogs in this fight. the love of the comedian will always be in me but i can hide that. the transgender person that i identify as will always be me but i can hide that. but the black person in me i can never hide. i hate the fact that we keep skirting around. so here it is, the hypocrisy. dave chappelle gave his friend, his words, had his friend who is white and transgender who wanted to be a comedian an opportunity to open for him. dave chappelle is one of the greatest to do it of our time right now. that was a huge opportunity for her. the lgbtq community never reached out to give her any opportunity like that. but then they turned and said he was transphobic, he was homophobic, all the backlash he received from two or three episodes ago from specials. and she stood with her friend, the transgender woman, and stood against dave to say no, he's not like that. the lgbtq plus community bashed this woman so bad that she jumped off a building and killed herself. dave was not responsible for that. so who is? >> flame, we don't know -- i have to say we don't know exactly why she killed herself. but anyway, go on. i'm sorry. >> her constitution and my constitution are very different. the backlash that me, i'm not going to do that. but here's the thing. who are we blaming for that? dave gave her an opportunity that the community did not give her. >> mm-hmm. listen, dave chappelle is saying quite honestly what a lot of people think. they don't understand the trans community and how people may identify. is that a fair statement? >> i think that's very fair. and i think that he has opened up an opportunity for us to come to the table and have real conversations, don, about this. the problem is we keep sending disgruntled angry people with their fists balled up and their attitude to come to the table. if you come to the table with an attitude you will never hear what i'm saying and i will never hear what you're saying. if we don't take the time to have real conversation with real people in the community that represent, you can't come with an already agenda. so we can let down the smoke screen between us and them so there will just be be an us. he pretty much said that we are so much more alike than we have different. and i'm telling you, you hear what you want to hear. you had to know that dave chappelle was cool in who he is because dave chappelle walked away from $50 million a few years ago. it is in the bible and it says for what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? the money was never the problem. he came back. >> hey, flame. >> yes. >> let me ask you this. because i've heard your stand-up and you say that we fight over the wrong things. we get too hung up on titles. >> yes. >> and even as african-americans and as members of the lgbtq plus community, that we get too hung up on things that are -- look, you call people what they want to be called. that's how i feel. but we can have these discussions -- >> yeah, and -- >> but we get too hung up on, you know, titles and letters and -- >> well, what is -- it's kind of like the democratic party to he m. are we trying to win the war or these little battles? and here's the thing. there are going to be two sides of history with the transgender community. the disgruntled angry side that is still fighting over bathroom wars and pronouns and these minute rights. and then there's the sight of history where we have a state senator, sarah mcbryant in delaware. joe biden appointed a doctor who is a transgender woman. m.j. rodriguez just made history by being nominated as the first transgender actress, actress to be nominated for a lead role in tv. so there's two sides of history. we're going one way and then we're being pulled back the other way only by us. only by us. because if you sit down honestly and have a conversation with people, don, people are really willing to listen. and in my experience as a trans woman for more than 30 years most trans men and trans women are very willing to tell their stories to you if you sit them in a safe capacity and make them feel comfortable and say hey, how are you? what's your name? as opposed to coming to me with an attitude or embattlement because i'm already going to be on the defensive because of the life that i have lived and it's not a chosen life. it really is in you. it is not a chosen life. it is in me to identify as transgender. >> i would love to continue to have this conversation. and i think that there is -- we should be able to have these discussions without yelling at each other and offer some understanding about -- >> that's true. >> -- this community. and at the very least, look, you can love what dave did or hate it or whatever, but i think you're right -- >> i'm a comedian. i am a comedian and i'm telling you, i got three dogs in the fight. i have to be fair to all three. >> but at the very least we're talking about it. and i think we should use this opportunity to continue to have these discussions in a responsible, productive way. >> absolutely. >> flame, i can't wait to come see you. and if i do come i want to sit in the front row. >> we're going to have a drink together, don. >> help me get some tickets. >> for sure. thank you so much for having me. >> i really appreciated having this conversation with both these women. cnn contacted netflix for i ament could on criticism of chappelle's special. we're waiting to hear back. and conversations like these can be tough for many. if you or someone you know needs help call the suicide prevention lifeline. the number is now on your screen. the numbers are on your screen right now because you can text it as well. okay? 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>> i don't disagree. i think chappelle is trying to frame himself as someone who is just kind of like posing honest questions out there to the audience. i also think too, though, it feels like it's very apologetic. i think he feels on the defensive about what he's been backed into a corner on in terms of accounting for a lot of his early jokes. i do think that he is missing a lot of spots here in his ability or desire to try to raise these conversations. i think he's overlooking the fact that when he speaks on transgender and sexuality issues, he's omitting the fact that black people are apparently part of those communities as well, and he seems to be upholding a lot of the -- commentary by trying to frame a lot of these groups against each other. i don't think they're helping any conversations for anyone. >> in the special, he says he hates the phrase punching down, but you think he's doing exactly that. why do you say that? >> look, you know, i looked up chappelle's age just a little while ago because i kind of lost track of him. i get it. he's only a few years older than me, and i get it. like the world is changing in a lot of ways than the ways we've kind of grown up. the language around things are changing. the culture around things are changing. but one of the things i have had the opportunity to grow and reflect and develop on is the fact that as i think about my own bodily, social, political autonomy in the world, i know that it can't come at the expense of other people's own set of -- like freedom. i think for chappelle, what i think is interesting about the special is that a lot of this is about -- you know, some of his older work was talking about deeply examining the -- discomfort and systems in the majority of populations. here he seems trained on wanting to feel like -- frailty or a lack of like kind of viability inside of other marginalized communities like experiences, their advocacy, and i don't think it's helping them. i really do thinking it is punching down. i think he is in a way being vocally antagonistic saying, i'm just trying to defend myself. i'm just trying to clarify where i'm coming from. of course i love these people. i love all these people. but i think the scrutiny that he's leveling against the way that other groups and other movements show up speaks to a lack of grace and passion for them that gets really contorted in the -- >> i appreciate you joining us, trey. i wish the connection was clearer, but i think we understood everything you were saying. thank you very much, sir. i appreciate it. >> i'm sorry. >> that's all right. it's not your fault. it's the internet's fault. thank you very much. i appreciate it. it's broadband. thank you. so please release the records. president biden says that he won't stand in the way of the committee investigating the january 6th insurrection, but trump and his minions, they're not going down without a fight. stay with us. because his plan is backed by the team at fidelity. a group of investment professionals manages ben's ira for him, analyzing market conditions and helping him stay on target. he gets one-on-one coaching when he wants some advice, and can adjust his plan whenever he needs to. and now he's so prepared for retirement, ben is feeling totally zen. that's the planning effect from fidelity. - we're thrive cosmetics and our liquid lash extension mascara creates showstopping lashes that won't clump, flake or smudge. 100% vegan, cruelty-free and powered by our high-performance formula. there's a reason this mascara has over 275,000 five-star reviews. come discover why at thrivecosmetics.com president biden rejecting the former guy's request to keep white house records away from the january 6th select committee. plus steve bannon defying his subpoena. the committee now threatening to advance a criminal contempt of congress referral. and on the search for brian laundrie, police say there's no physical evidence in the area that they've been searching for weeks. this comes amid new questions about what his family knows. police describe one of their first interactions with parents as, quote, odd.