constructive the conversations were. he is going to have his sleeves rolled up and be very engaged moving forward. >> reporter: yet the president's schedule didn't indicate that today with all meetings being conducted at the staff level. >> the president will not be meeting with lawmakers today. >> we'll see. the president is always open to meeting with discussing and communicating with lawmakers. there is a lot of work that needs to continue that can happen with senior staff members. >> reporter: a lot of work indeed with the $1.2 trillion infrastructure plan up for a vote early next week. along with the broader $3.5 trillion plan to expand education and health care, address climate change, and more. on capitol hill, cnn's manu raju pressed speaker pelosi on the plan cost. have you settled on a price tag >> no, we didn't talk about that. this is not about price tag. this is what is in the bill. >> reporter: it is of course about both but pelosi remained optimistic democrats would find consensus to pass legislation that would touch the lives of nearly all americans. >> the president put us on a course. we intend to stay the course and pass both of these bills as soon as possible. >> reporter: a separate challenge comes one week from tonight when the government runs out of funding at midnight unless congress acts. the office of management and budget began issuing agency contingency plans, detailed instructions to prepare for a government shutdown. the white house said it was hopeful such a scenario could be avoided. >> the fact is shutdowns are incredibly costly, disruptive, and damaging. >> reporter: as for a potential shutdown president biden has instructed his advisers to do whatever they can to avoid that because they believe democrats would indeed be blamed for that despite the messy politics on capitol hill. but, jake, as for his economic agenda i am told by officials the president is still upbeat about getting this passed. they do not know exactly what the path forward for that is. as for him not having meetings today it was actually to spear more discussion amongst the aides who are actually getting this work done. i'm told he will likely have more meetings in the coming days. >> all right. thank you. let's bring in cnn's chief congressional correspondent manu raju live on capitol hill. we just heard your exchange with speaker pelosi from earlier today. what is the reaction from democratic lawmakers? are they any closer to an actual deal that everyone understands what it is? >> reporter: the short answer is no, jake. there are just so many details. even though chuck schumer went out and said there was an agreement between the house, senate, and white house he later came out and made clear the agreement is actually between speaker pelosi, chuck schumer, the chairman of the house ways and means committee, and the senate finance committee, and the administration about a menu of options how to pay for the plan. they have not resolved all of their issues about how to pay for it. they also have to get agreement among members of the house and senators about whether they would agree for the financing not to mention all of the policy initiatives ladoid out in this massive proposal impacting all walks of life. and the price tag, too, is something that is still a major divide between the moderates and the progressives. what the democrats hope going forward is that the white house and leadership can find some sort of resolution with key factions within the respective caucuses to move forward behind one specific approach. so many details and still uncertain how quickly it can come together. >> moderate democrats say they still expect a vote on the infrastructure bill, the bipartisan infrastructure bill on monday. you just talked to the house majority leader steny hoyer the democrat from maryland. what does he say? >> reporter: he can't guarantee the vote will happen on monday. i asked can you absolutely guarantee it will happen? he said i'm not going that far but within the next 72 hours it will be critical to determine whether they can have the vote at that point. this is all contingent on what the progressives in the house do. they are threatening to sink the bipartisan infrastructure bill that was passed in the senate last month because they want leverage to try to pressure the moderates in the house and senate to support that larger democratic only approach to expand the social safety net. they believe that could pressure them to back that and they'll give their support for the infrastructure plan. but given that the negotiation over that separate major democratic only proposal is still not even close to finished, it is uncertain what the progressives ultimately do so that is why democratic leadership is saying they have significant negotiations that have to be had over the next several days to determine whether there will be enough progressives ultimately to push this over the finish line. at the moment progressives are still threatening to sink it. we'll see if that changes come monday. >> thanks so much. let's discuss. just to remind people one of the reasons why this is so messy is because democrats can only afford to lose three votes. right? the margin between democrats and republicans is so narrow and republicans are not going to vote for the budget bill. who has the power in these negotiations? i can't tell. can you clear that up for me? >> no. it is very confusing, jake. so right now you have the moderates that are saying if you do not hold this vote when you promised to hold the vote -- >> the infrastructure bill. >> when you promised it to pelosi and leadership, then we're not going to carry reconciliation. they have leverage on that front because they don't want to vote for reconciliation. progressives have some power. the question is are they actually going to decide to vote in bloc as manu was saying to sink the infrastructure bill? knowing that could very well ruin the chances of the reconciliation bill? i don't know if progressives are fully there yet. they are threatening to be there but we haven't seen them in the past take that big of a step on such a big agenda item for president biden. one thing, also, with the supposed announcement of payment for -- these revenue raises, quote, what the white house calls them, the white house didn't provide any additional information either today. they said we'll let that play out and seems to be saying that is like schumer and pelosi saying right now and provided no details on what exactly is in here or how they're talking to members about it. >> and speaker pelosi said multiple times today, quote, this is not about the price tag. but when it comes to the budget reconciliation bill i don't mean to be disrespectful but it really seems to be about the price tag. >> for moderates it is about the price tag because they want to know how much this costs. they want to know, is it worth putting or investing political capital in it depending on what it funds and how much it costs overall. which is the point that the leadership was trying to get to earlier today. but let's make it clear. a menu of options is not an actual meal you can sink your teeth into. there is no meal right now. they are still, the leadership's announcement was a little befuddling because they weren't able to offer details of what they agreed to. so it was clearly an attempt to move some sort of, show some sort of forward momentum after yesterday's meetings with president biden and various groups of lawmakers. but there hasn't been that much development since yesterday. >> speaker pelosi promised moderates that the infrastructure bill would come up for vote this coming monday. this is one democratic congresswoman who met with biden yesterday and what she said on cnn this afternoon. >> if we put a bill on the floor we have to have 218 votes. that is the important criteria. >> if you don't have those on monday you are okay with waiting? >> we have to make sure we get a bill passed. >> absolutely. i'm thinking about the idea of the menu of options. a menu is important because it does tell you what you might be able to do and what you're not going to do. and getting progressives to say okay. we won't do certain things and getting moderates to say okay we will include certain tax increases is actually a pretty big deal. will they get to it? we'll see. this is a mess for democrats. it is not the chinese communist party. people are arguing in public about what is going on. i talked to some folks at the white house today and one thing i'm being told, and i talked to a progressive member of congress, the progressives feel like they are doing, have been carrying the biden water. they want to see some help from the moderates. the moderates and the folks in the white house will say perhaps a number is one of the ways to get there. if -- >> how much are you willing to spend on a budget? if not 3.5 trillion. >> that's right. if they get toward a common number that might be enough for the progressives to feel like we're in this together. right now the progressives feel they are the only ones moving. >> that is one of the details that came out from our reporting the meetings yesterday and the afternoon meeting with the moderate lawmakers, president biden our sources tell us really press on them to come up with a number, come up with something. come up with something i can present to the other guys. and the moderates in that room refused to do it. so that you're certainly right and what progressives have said over and over you saw bernie sanders say several times today alone that we have already come down. we want $6 trillion and most of our caucus was onboard and it is only a handful of people that kind of forced us to come down to the 3.5 number. >> so, bill, for let's say suburban, former republicans, in virginia, or wherever, watching this, like yourself for example. people who historically have supported republicans but had a change of focus during the trump era, what does this all look like to you sf ifrjts mean, the -- >> i mean, the democratic party. someone said congratulations you voted democrat last time. this is what you get. i think the white house honestly, get involved, do a lot of meetings. i think they should frankly do the opposite. get the cr passed, the government stays open. >> that is the continuing resolution. >> keep the government open. don't want the government to close at this point with the pandemic and other stuff. i think they could back the republicans down on the debt limit and dare them to oppose it. honestly if they vote against moving the debt limit they should bust the filibuster on that. if anything, why is there a filibuster on extending the debt limit which if not extended would destroy the credit and credibility of the u.s.? >> right. and most of the spending was under previous presidents. >> everyone agrees that has to happen. even mcconnell says it has to happen. they should bust the filibuster. >> a good excuse frankly to begin to erode the filibuster. then biden should say you guys work this out. these deadlines are ludicrous. where did september 27 come from? that is not a real deadline. this 3.5 trillion can get propose rated four months or eight months from now. it is mostly not going to be spent for years. then the biden white house should say we're really going to focus on the virus. get more people vaccinated. get the 5 to 11-year-olds vaccinated as soon as possible, get the boosters done, get the rapid testing finally here. two months from now the economy will be good. we'll turn the corner on the virus. congress, that is kind of a mess but i'm president. >> but on that note, john podesta who worked in the clinton white house sent a memo to every democratic member of congress yesterday, obtained by the "new york times," he writes in part the historical trend makes it clear the democrats will face severe head winds next november but nothing will guarantee a political reckoning faster than if the democrats fail to pass anything. you're in touch with a lot of people working on these democratic house races, democratic senate races. is bill's plan an option? do they need to pass something? >> they need to pass something. i was here at this table a week or so ago saying it would be oblivion if they didn't. what would you run on if you have a democratic president, house and senate, and you can't pass a bill to help the american people, how do you go back and argue to vote for democrats? >> how about solving the pandemic and having a strong economy? honestly? >> what do you think? >> the thing we're seeing about the moderate/progressive divide is a lot of moderates are not necessarily in vulnerable seats. stephanie murphy from florida is but there are a lot of moderates in the house side that are front liners that want this done and they want it done fast. they're in vulnerable house seats. >> you mean infrastructure. >> they also want reconciliation. >> they want it all. >> there's a lot that want the prescription drug price negotiation to go through to lower costs for that. they want to see a lot of that go through because a number of democrats have said if any one of these things in this package revealed a pass it would guive e a ton to run on in election. they want to see all of it go through. >> is that what you're hearing too? >> definitely. on so many levels this reconciliation package, failure is not an option for democrats. they are facing significant political head winds next year which is why with all the turmoil right now and this is just part of the messy, legislative sausage making process, it is hard to see democrats let perfect be the enemy of the good but we'll see what happens. >> i mean, they are as of right now. a lot of them. it seems to me. >> hopefully one thing that doesn't matter what happened with the haitians down in the south i'm hearing from progressives they are very concerned. african-americans are feeling like none of the rest of this matters. >> we are about to cover that. thanks so much. some migrants are being sent back to haiti and some let into the united states. what is going on at the border? we'll go live on the ground in mexico and in haiti next. plus do you qualify for a third covid shot? a cdc panel just voted to approve booster shots for some americans but not for everyone. stay with us. ♪ ♪ i can turn anyone into a beach bum. i bring families together for a living. i make memories for people i don't know yet. i know this view is too good not to be shared. i am a vrbo host. ♪ ♪ if you have this... consider adding this. an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan from unitedhealthcare. medicare supplement plans help by paying some of what medicare doesn't... and let you see any doctor. any specialist. anywhere in the u.s. who accepts medicare patients. so if you have this... consider adding this. call unitedhealthcare today for your free decision guide. ♪ your eyes. beautiful on the outside, but if you have diabetes, there can be some not-so-pretty stuff going on, on the inside. it's true, if you have diabetes, you know high blood sugar is the root of the problem. but that excess sugar can cause the blood vessels to be seriously damaged. and when that happens, this could happen, vision loss or even blindness. that's right, diabetic retinopathy is a leading cause of blindness for adults in the u.s. but even though you can't see it, there is something you can do about it. remember this: now is the time to get your eyes checked. eye care is an incredibly important part of your long-term diabetes management. see a path forward with actions and treatments that may help your eyes— and protect against vision loss. just say to yourself, “now eye see.” then—go see an eye care specialist. visit noweyesee.com to get the facts about diabetes, your eyes, and what you can do next—to take control of your sight. brought to you by regeneron. >> in our world lead more than a thousand haitians have been deported from the u.s./mexico border but 3600 remain under the del rio international bridge right now. as the biden administration struggles to try to get a handle on the situation thousands of migrants are currently left in something of a limbo situation. let's bring in cnn's matt rivers live from the border. at one point law enforcement in mexico formed a human chain trying to stop migrants from making the trip across the river. what are you seeing now? >> yes. basically they succeeded in doing that, jake. what we've seen over the past couple days here are people from that encampment on the u.s. side coming across pretty freely from the u.s. to mexico to get supplies. easier to get that in mexico. less people. less chaotic. food, water easier to get. bathrooms easier. we've seen people come here for diapers. that stopped this afternoon. that group of migrants on the other side are some of the last people that were actually able to make it across into the u.s. and will eventually make their way to the encampment where there are thousands of haitians remaining. i can show you why. if you come up here this way up the embankment from the river we talk a lot about governor abbott in texas his wall of steel, all the troopers and border patrol kind of preventing people from coming in. this is a mini mexican version of that. you got municipal police. you've got immigration police. you've got state police. if you look over here there are some relatively more armed police officers here. more or less. basically what happened, jake, is when they initially started this chain of people to come and try and stop migrants from coming in basically you had six or seven immigration agents. they came here and prevented people from the mexican side here from going across. a couple people came up. said why can't we cross. initially word spread very quickly through the camp. then came dozens of migrants some of whom had come here simply to charge their phones quite literally and said we don't want to stay in mexico and go through the immigration process here. we want to go back to the united states. they quickly overwhelmed the six or seven agents here which is how we saw the more chaotic scenes around the one or two p.m. local hour here. a few dozen haitian immigrants were able to make it across but now more enforcement again with the vehicles here. we've seen several haitian migrants come here recently arguing with the police saying please let us through. one man said i have a child on the other side. they are not letting anybody through right now. if you are a haitian migrant in mexico right now even if your family is on the other side of the border and you just came to charge your phone you're stuck. you'll go through immigration proceedings here and maybe get deported back to haiti from mexico instead of the united states. >> matt rivers in mexico for us. thank you so much for great reporting. turning to haiti president biden's own envoy to haiti quit in disgust with the biden administration handling of haitian migrants on the u.s./mexico border and called biden's policies inhumane and deeply flawed. in the last hour democratic congresswoman fredricka wilson of florida told me she is, quote, pissed. >> there is no need to deport haitians to haiti. that is inhumane. they cannot accept that. they have no functioning government. no senate. no parliament. no president. and the prime minister is being investigated for murdering the president. so the government is in tatters. why would you deport people back to a country that is just trying as hard as they can to stay afloat and take care of the people that are there? >> now cnn's melissa bell is speaking one-on-one with some of the desperate haitians deported back to a country filled with just that economic and political strife. >> reporter: a scathing letter of rebuke to the u.s. government and high level resignation. the american special envoy to haiti daniel foote leaving his post in protest telling the secretary of state antony blinken wednesday he will, quote, not be associated with the united states' inhuman, counterproductive decision to deport thousands of haitian refugees from the u.s./mexico border. it comes as chaos intensifies. migrants arriving in droves from encampments at the u.s. border with mexico were deported en masse back to haiti by the american government. many longed for a better life in the u.s. desperate to escape devastating poverty, political unrest, and escalating gang violence in the haitian capital. the former u.s. envoy describing the situation as so dangerous that american officials in haiti are confined to compounds. but these haitian citizens have nowhere to hide, forced to return to their homeland they were trying so hard to escape. those words by the u.s. special envoy about the grinding poverty, endemic violence, and lack of basic resources here in haiti also reflected in the assessment made by the department of homeland security in the spring when it decided to accord special protected person status to those haitians already in the united states. and yet the haitians being returned at the moment here in their hundreds every day haven't even been given the chance of applying for asylum. many returned after a treacherous sometimes deadly journey winding through south and central america, some crossing nearly a dozen countries enroute to the u.s. some of those we spoke to tell us that once at the border u.s. officials treated them more like inmates than exhausted refugees. >> when we got to the u.s. they closed all the access points. we could not go to buy food. >> translator: when we arrived in the u.s. the authorities put us on a bus and sent us to jail and said we would be released in two days. they put chains on our feet, around our stomachs, and our hands. they put us in cars and took us to the airport. >> reporter: some deportees tell us they didn't know where they were being taken when u.s. authorities ushered them on to a plane. it wasn't until landing back in haiti that they discovered it was a return to where they'd started. a seemingly tragic end to a long and desperate journey it appears was all for naught. jake, the international office for migration has given us the latest figures just under 1500 haitian migrants now returned to haiti each with their own tragic tale of many years spent on the road and a return to a country that is worse now even than when they left it. >> all right. melissa bell in haiti, thank you so much for that report. appreciate it. the biden administration may be having a huge fight with the former president trump over huge questions about the capitol insurrection. stay with us. so when their windshield got a chip, they wanted it fixed fast. they drove to safelite autoglass for a guaranteed, same-day, in-shop repair. we repaired the chip before it could crack. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? 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to a done deal? >> that is a really good question. i think it is worth running through really quickly how exactly this works. after the january 6th select committee that is investigating the insurrection, that happened at the beginning of this year, they requested white house documents from president trump from the national archives. so those documents requested are being identified by the national archives personnel. they're then sent to biden and his lawyers as you just noted that first trench has already been sent by august 31st. it was sent august 31st. there is likely more to come in terms of the document dumps that are going to be happening throughout the next few months. and now trump, the former president has 30 days following the delivery of those documents to decide whether he is going to object to that release according to the statute. this white house does have the current white house, the stitting white house counsel has the power, some members of the committee argue, to overrule any potential objections that the president might take here. we've already seen him claim executive privilege but something else we revealed today is that the select committee has sort of come to a consensus arguing that trump no longer enjoys the protection of executive privilege so they have been encouraging the white house actively pushing them to put aside the institutional concerns, look back at former precedents like in 1977, the supreme court ruling in nixon versus the general services and move forward with the investigation by providing some of the documents which they think are really key to putting together a comprehensive, historic record of what exactly happened during the insurrection and what the president was doing, which is still a big unanswered question. >> it is indeed. gloria borger if the biden white house did that it would surprise a lot of people because usually joe biden is an institutionalist and traditionally quite often white houses stick up for this principle of executive privilege because they know if they doesn't it could ultimately come back to bite them. >> sure. you. >> look at recent history. i mean, this white house said to two former justice department officials you can testify about your conversations with the white house regarding the election and they did. so it gives you kind of an indication of where this white house is at this point. >> you mean the biden white house said that about trump white house officials. >> right. trump administration officials. so they said go ahead and testify. this is a former president. this involves potential wrongdoing. there is precedent as you just spoke of with richard nixon and his tapes. and i think this is a matter of history. people want to know what this former president was doing in the days leading up to the insurrection. what was he doing that day. what conversations was he having. this is really important. they've done it before and said you can testify so to me it is sort of like history and i think the biden people may be inclined to say, look. we're not going to stop this. >> you worked as associate white house counsel in the obama administration. i want to read you what a trump spokesperson told the post quote the highly partisan communist style committee has put forward a wide request that lacks both legal precedent and legislative merit. executive privilege will be defended not just on behalf of president trump and his administration but also on behalf of the office of the president of the united states and the future of our nation. does executive privilege in your view still apply even though he is no longer president? >> thanks, jake. a great question. first i should just note for full disclosure that my law firm represents someone who is suing former president trump but not about any of these issues. to answer your question i think it is an uphill battle for a claim of privilege if president biden doesn't agree with former president trump. first of all under the traditional understanding executive privilege is something that only the current president can formally invoke. second, i think there are some questions potentially tough questions about whether privilege would apply at all. in these communications was former president trump speaking more as the president or more as a presidential candidate? were there any discussions of wrongdoing or potential criminal activity? if the answer to those questions is yes, the claim for privilege might be a lot weaker and those are some issues that i think would ultimately have to be confronted if former president trump wants to push forward. >> jackie quickly if you could because we are running out of time if the select committee gets ahold of these documents what might be the political consequences? >> that is a really good question, jake. we've already heard very lightly veiled threats from people like johnny submit who penned about how former president trump could delay the certification of the election saying current white house officials should be looking ahead to the future already to 2023 and 2024 and if they set this precedent here their communications with president biden might come out into the open just as this might potentially happen right now with former president trump. >> mr. eastman the famous author of the how to stage an american coup memo, very interesting. thanks to all of you. really appreciate it. coming up a cdc panel just voted on who can get a covid booster shot and who cannot. we'll break it down, next. stay with us. kinder bueno? woooooow. it's crispy. it's creamy. it's not your average chocolate bar. smooth milk chocolate, crispy wafer and creamy hazelnut filling. it's kinder bueno. ♪ we believe everyone deserves to live better. and just being sustainable isn't enough. our future depends on regeneration. that's why we're working to not only protect our planet, but restore, renew, and replenish it. so we can all live better tomorrow. ♪ tonight... i'll be eating a club sandwich with fries and a side of mayonnaise. wonderful! mayonnaise... on fries? 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>> this is going to cause some confusion. my overall reaction is the recommendations we're hearing are following the science but you have to keep in mind what most people have heard over the past month or so is initially everyone was going to get boosters. >> that came from joe biden. >> that came from the white house? >> yes. >> and that is what pfizer applied for, too. they wanted approval from the fda for boosters for everybody. fda said we'll do an emergency use authorization and it is going to be for people over the age of 65 or at high risk. and people at high risk of exposure as well like health care workers and teachers. cdc has dialed it back a bit more now so we can show you and there were some contentious discussions going back and forth, a few major questions they were asking. first of all they voted unanimously yes on people over the age of 65 and long-term care facility residents recommending a booster for them. ultimately not unanimously but they recommended that 18 plus, 18 years and older also with underlying conditions get a booster. that went back and forth i can tell you for a while. they kept going down by age and when they got to this point there was a lot of discussion. do people that young need it? but as you saw on the boat am there they are basically saying no for people who are just at high risk of exposure. if a healthy person 18 and older high risk of exposure they are not officially recommending a booster for them. >> why not? >> it is interesting. we're seeing some of the process of science and how people interpret the data sort of unfold. i think they felt the evidence wasn't clear enough to provide a benefit there. what was interesting is that when the fda talked about this issue, they basically said the reason we would authorize it for people who are in high exposure jobs is to cut down on the likelihood of severe illness. people will get a lot of exposure, more likely to get sick. what the cdc seemed to focus on is does it make a difference with this population in terms of transmission overall. yes if you're sick. you're high risk because you have underlying conditions. that is different. but for a healthy person they just didn't think the data was clear even if they're in some sort of front line job to recommend a booster. what you kept hearing over and over were two things. one is that the vaccines do work really well as they are. two shots. we need to be very specific about who we think would get additional benefit. the second thing is because it is so confusing, it is almost going to become an equity issue. people who know how to navigate the system, can figure out the pharmacy, go and get this are the ones who will go get the shots. people who don't have that knowledge or connections won't. that is part of the reason they wanted to be very specific about who they thought would actually benefit from this. >> we should just underline this is for the pfizer vaccine not for people who got the moderna or the johnson & johnson vaccine. let me ask you. i know the next step is that the director of the cdc dr. rochelle walensky makes her decision basing it however she wants to on the advisory board. how soon will that happen? how soon will it be approved for the booster shots to go into the arms of those in these vulnerable groups? >> well, she could actually sign this as early as tonight. you know, by tomorrow. part of the reasoning we heard from the white house initially, you know, a month ago or so, was to get these boosters ready in pharmacies so they could be ready to roll out. so the answer to your question is if dr. walensky signs this tonight, then by tomorrow these boosters could start. if she signs tomorrow then the next day. it is going to happen really quickly because i think they got a lot of the infrastructure in place now. >> let me ask you hypothetically, say there is somebody who isn't in the 65 or older. let's see he is 63 or 64. let's say he works in a grocery store. kind of in a front line position but not. let's say he has mild asthma. he doesn't actually qualify but he is like almost able to qualify in any one of these groups. should that person get a shot? should he talk to his doctor first? what do you think? >> yes. i think cut-offs are always going to be challenging because people will come right up against the cut-off and ask these sorts of questions. what i would say is based on the science and now based on the recommendations from the cdc if that person is healthy, doesn't have moderate asthma, because moderate asthma for example would be considered a risk factor for severe covid. they just have mild asthma and no severe risk factors, they wouldn't qualify necessarily for getting a shot. now, the good news is they should feel comfortable that their vaccine works really well for them. that is i think where the conversation kept going here. we have to figure out what the cut-off is and base that on some sort of data. some would have argued it should have been 60 and older. when i looked at the data out of israel and some of the cohort data in the united states you could make that argument. for someone like that maybe he waits until he turns 65. frankly a lot of people are just going out and getting these shots. that is not the recommendation from the cdc. but we know 2 million people have already gotten the shots, jake. >> that's right. dr. sanjay gupta thanks so much. sanjay has a new book coming out world war c lessons from the covid-19 pandemic and how to prepare for the next one. comes out october 5th. preorder now on amazon. coming up next a major flight attendant union wants passengers to start behaving better on planes and to get harsher punishments if they do not. the story next. meet jeff. in his life, he's been to the bottom of the ocean. the tops of mountains. the er... twice. and all the places this guy runs off to. like jeff's, a life well lived should continue at home. home instead offers customized services from personal care to memory care, so older adults can stay home, stay safe, and stay happy. home instead. to us, it's personal. in 2016, i was working at the amazon warehouse when my brother passed away. and a couple of years later, my mother passed away. after taking care of them, i knew that i really wanted to become a nurse. amazon helped me with training and tuition. today, i'm a medical assistant and i'm studying to become a registered nurse. in filipino: you'll always be in my heart. usaa is made for the safe pilots. like mac. who can come to a stop with barely a bobble. with usaa safepilot, when you drive safe... ...you can save up to 30% on your auto insurance. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. get a quote today. if you wake up thinking about the market and want to make the right moves fast... get decision tech from fidelity. 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