democratic leaders, plus progressives and moderate democrats. the two wings of the party tonight still at serious odds. so far, neither budging. ats issue is a vote in just five days on a bipartisan infrastructure bill. the moderates support that bill. they want to get it passed, stat. it's a bipartisan bill. the progressives, though, want action on a separate, triple the size, $3.5 trillion tax and spending plan that touches on everything from immigration to climate change to healthcare. and they say they will not support the much smaller bipartisan infrastructure bill without that spending bill, first. even as moderates say no way. that price tag is way too high. they're far apart and the stakes could not be higher for president biden. not only is his first term agenda on the line, his party which let's just be clear here, they got the white house. they got the senate. and they got the house. and they still aren't able to pass legislation. failed to make headway on key promises. police reform, as of tonight, is dead. negotiators coming out and saying it. officially, throwing in the towel despite this promise. biden said, quote, we can do it. we can enact rational police reform. that's a quote from the president but that is now formally dead, as of tonight. voting rights. another core part of the president's domestic agenda going nowhere despite biden saying this. again, i quote him. we must also fight for the john lewis voting rights advancement act to restore and expand protections and prevent voter suppression. and yet, where is all of that voting rights? it's nowhere. and what about comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship? that was another core part of the domestic agenda going nowhere despite biden saying this. we are working really hard to get done in a humane and serious way. now, to be fair, biden does need republicans to pass these major pieces of legislation. but even biden, who has prided himself on compromise. he has been saying, look, the fact that i have been in the senate for decades is a strength, not a weakness, because i can get deals done. and yet, he has not been able to get what he wants through congress and it is taking a toll. according to a new gallup poll, biden's approval rating has hit a new low. 43%. 53%. a clear majority disapprove of president biden's job. phil mattingly is outfront live at the white house tonight and, phil, has president biden gotten any closer to bridging the gap between these moderate and progressive democrats? i mean, this is a real schism in the party which controls the senate, controls the house, controls the white house, and can't get on the same page with its own party. >> yeah, erin. we have really been witnessing kind of an interparty war over the course of the last several weeks which is exactly why president biden stepped in. he's been engaged in almost five hours of nonstop meetings with nearly two dozen democratic lawmakers. really, representing every ideological side of the democratic caucuses in the house, in the senate. now, erin, i was texting back and forth with a lawmaker who met with the president earlier who told me the meeting he had was a, quote, absolute necessity. i said does this mean things are closer to reaching some type of outcome? some type of deal? he responded, we'll see over the course of the next several days. and the point that this lawmaker was making was that basically the president was sitting down, not mingling the two kind of pulls of this fight together. they were meeting separately. moderates, in one meeting. progressives, in another meeting. but basically, for everybody to lay out where they stood. they went in detail through the different planks of the different pieces of legislation here. there were -- there was a robust discussion about the $3.5 trillion top line that progressives want on that second economic and climate package. no, there was no deal struck. no it's not clear whether or not this will help get things across the finish line. but one of the messages i am told by several lawmakers the president wanted to convey was the necessity in getting this done. necessity in taking down the temperature to some degree and getting everybody in the room to actually have negotiation. something that had more or less broken down over the course of the last several days. erin, you hit on a skey point. there is a very compressed time window given that house democratic vote scheduled for september 27th, just next week. but one thing the president left several lawmakers with that i have spoken to tonight was this. failure is not an option and i think that's something that the president wanted to convey, white house officials have been trying to convey over the course of the last several days that, yes, there are very real divides and very real differences about the size and scale of programs, the size and scale of the overall package but when it comes to democrats, what they pledged to do in the campaign in 2020. what they pledged to do with the majorities in the senate, the house, and holding the white house, they pledged to deliver and this is the moment to do just that and whether they agree or disagree on the specifics of certain policies, they need to figure out a way to unify and come together. the ultimate test will not be in these five hours of meetings, it will be in the days ahead as they try and hammer out those differences. but it is clear, the president at least started to put them on that path. what they do with that, that is still an open question, erin. >> all right. thank you very much. phil. of course, i mean, look, these are huge philosophical, ideological differences and they are moral differences i think some of these lawmakers feel. outfront now, democratic congressman of nevada. a member of the house budget committee. and i know, of course, you were one of the moderates who met with biden today. so i appreciate your time, congressman. so, you know, in -- in your meeting, and -- and president biden -- obviously, has, you know, we are talking about five hours of these meetings, back to back. met with moderates like yourself. wrapped up a final meeting with progressive lawmakers tonight who at this point appear to be holding firm against voting for that bipartisan infrastructure bill that is set for a vote on monday. unless they get their much bigger spending package, first. what did president biden say to you? >> well, thank you, erin, for having me on. and you know, what i will first say is this congress with the leadership of president biden is committed to delivering for the american people. we delivered with the american rescue plan. these have been unprecedented times with the pandemic and a recession that is disproportionately hit every community but states like mine in nevada where we saw high unemployment back in july of 2020. and we are as committed now to passing the president's build back better agenda as well as the bipartisan infrastructure deal. the president, as you said, said that we can get this done and we will work together. i don't think that there is as much disagreement as people want to -- um -- frame. because what we are in agreement on is delivering for the american people. the american family. the american worker and american small businesses who desperately need an economic recovery plan because this is a once-in-a-generational opportunity for us to build back better, as the president says. >> so i want to play for you, congressman, what the house speaker nancy pelosi said right after her meeting with president biden today. listen to this. >> i will not be talking about that right now. we -- we are on schedule. that's all i will say. >> thank you, ma'am. >> and -- and we're calm and everybody's good and our work's almost done. we're in good shape. >> so, you know, this is this promise, right? that there is going to be this vote on the package that i know you support. the bipartisan deal that passed the senate, as well. should the speaker move the vote even if progressives are going to vote against it and shoot it down? 50, of course, are threatening to vote no. >> well, i think ongoing conversations are happening through today and -- and over the course of the next few days. but that's a false choice. we need to pass both the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the build back better agenda. this is part of what i shared with the president. why? because i support the bipartisan infrastructure bill. but it does not include in -- investment in workforce development and skills training. it doesn't include childcare funding. one of the barriers that working families, particularly women, experience in being able to return to the workforce. it doesn't include the extension of the child-tax credit, which is a cut for the majority of middle-class families. in my district, 97% of families with children receive that child-tax cut which is about $3,000 per child, per family. and it doesn't include paid leave and so many other elements. and so, yes, we need the bipartisan infrastructure deal. but we also need to pass human infrastructure that invests in our people. and we can do both. >> all right. i appreciate your time, congressman. thank you very much. and i want to go now to dana bash, our chief political correspondent and co-anchor of course of state of the union. dana, what's pretty incredible here and i know the congressman is -- you know, there's some nicer words being thrown around after these meetings with the president today. but you have covered congress a long time. you've seen lawmakers take a lot of bills to the brink. but this -- this really feels, in some ways, a little bit different, doesn't it? i mean, this is -- this is a schism. it doesn't just seem like it's policy that they are disagreeing on. it really is -- as i -- maybe used too strong a word but this is a moral issue for some of them. >> yeah. there are really, really big differences. the closest i think that i can remember that the democratic party has come to where they are now is right before they ended up passing obamacare. and that was, again, a democratic president, democrats in charge of the house and the senate. and it took a very long time, and there was a lot of intraparty fighting. the difference between then and now is light years when it comes to where the party is. and that -- by that, i mean that it is true that for the most part the progressive agenda, the things that bernie sanders has been talking about for decades and made popular within the party when he ran, first, in 2008. and then, in -- in 2020 -- was the idea that he -- that there is a social-safety net that matters. >> uh-huh. >> and that has, for the most part, taken hold. having said that, there still are -- um -- a lot fewer but there are a number of moderates. and in a party and in a congress where the margins are so, so narrow, erin, just three seats in the house, no -- no room to spare in the senate -- those differences matter because each side is dug in and using its leverage. and so, the question is whether the president after five hours of meetings that phil talked about today is going to find a way to bring them together. only he can do that, at this point. >> right. well, and, of course, a lot of them have been very definitive about what they are going to do. would have to be going directly against their own word and their own promises to their voters on both sides of this. there is also reports tonight on the republican side, minority whip steve scalise is telling republicans to vote against the bipartisan infrastructure bill that republicans in the senate got over the finish line. so now, you know, you are in a situation where the democrats may not even be able to get the one thing they thought was a sure thing? >> right. and remember, just for context, i know you know this but it's good to remind our viewers because we are talking about a lot of different policies here and -- and bills. the infrastructure bill is something that mitch mcconnell voted for. along with, you know, what, about a dozen of his republican colleagues in the senate. and now, you have the house leadership, the republican leadership, saying you should not vote for this. and i have been communicating with some house republicans who have been thinking about voting yes. who said it matters. it matters that their leadership is saying do not do this. so, it is just one more data point in something that we have been experiencing and we have seen, certainly, this week. which is, how -- how tribal things are. certainly, the democratic party is trying to figure out where they want to go. but beyond that, when you have the debt ceiling and now this infrastructure bill, it makes it so much harder when it's very difficult for the two sides to come together even on things like infrastructure. where i can tell you that chamber of commerce republicans, business republicans, they're not so happy about this because they think that infrastructure means jobs. >> right. right. and -- and when -- you know, getting into just the very narrow definition of it, it is something thats is, you know, wide agreement on its need among voters, among democrats and republicans. thanks so much, dana. and next, trump and his allies pushing for backers of the big lie to run for secretary of state in key states. it's sort of happening under the radar but it really matters, right? 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but just to be clear, trump has already endorsed each of the three candidates that i just played and the five key states where the backers of trump's election lie are running had secretaries of state in 2020 and this is really important to say, all of the states -- secretaries of state in 2020 bravery stood up to trump as he called out lies in those states. like for example, the secretary of state, brad raffensperger, of georgia. >> people said that there were thousands of dead people that voted. it was less than a handful. they also told us that over 66,000 underaged voters voted. there were zero. they talked about unregistered voters voting. there was none of that. president trump came up short in georgia. >> he is a lifelong republican. said he voted for trump. he stood up for the facts. trump lost georgia and nevada's republican secretary of state said and i quote, these concerns do not amount to evidentiary support for the contention that the 2020 general election was plagued by widespread voter fraud. look. if it weren't for a handful of brave secretaries of state who stood up for the truth, democrat and republican, we might be having a very different conversation right now. imagine if those three people that i played had actually been in the job. it's not over because many signs point to another trump run. just listen to reporters bob woodward and robert costa who spent months covering and reporting on trump for their new book "peril." >> this is someone who wants back into the presidency. and he believes the republican party is still very much in his grip. >> it's president trump who really wants back based on our own reporting. >> and if i may say, once back and if -- if you get into the question which is important, to do what? and the answer is to be donald trump. >> so how does he get back? get supporters of his big lie to become the next generation of top-key election officials in key states, right? the people who call the winner. right? get that guy in in georgia who said that trump won as opposed to the guy who did the election in georgia, who actually counted it, recounted it, recounted it, audit after audit after audit and ran all these things down and came to the incontrovertible fact that biden con. nathan lane. nathan, i really appreciate your time and i just want to emphasize how significant your rotting is, right? because most people are not focused in on sec retary of stae races in states. and yet, these are crucial. and you have gone out and done it. you have interviewed nine of the 15 candidates for this story. only two of them would admit to you, would tell you that biden is the legitimate president. i mean, okay. you might have -- people might have told you you would hear that but when you actually got on the phone and interviewed these people, were you surprised by what you heard? >> sure, thank you for having me, erin. um, you know, i had done a fair amount of reporting over the past year in areas of the country where -- where trump is popular. so, you know, i knew that this was where the base was. um, but i -- i -- i was -- i was surprised. um, i thought we'd find more people -- candidates, republican candidates who might try to differentiate themselves f ffrom -- and take a more moderate line and say, you know, look, all the evidence is in. you know, biden won. they have all been certified. it's over. let's move forward. but i was quite surprised to find the number of people, the extent to which they were basically -- um -- towing the trump line. you know, either fully embracing the idea there was rampant fraud that led to trump's loss. or nuancing it a bit. but still, saying that, you know, i'm not -- i'm not convinced that biden won and we need to do more investigation. >> so as i said, you talked to nine of the 15 candidates. i know that you didn't speak with the three candidates who trump endorsed. and i played sound bytes from them. but i know you tried. so tell me what happened? >> we made multiple attempts with -- with the candidates for obvious reasons. they -- they are -- they have got the trump endorsement. we really wanted to, you know, hear their -- hear their side of the story. see if they have changed their views at all. um, and -- and really, you know, put some tough questions to them. um, i don't know why they didn't want to engage. representative heiss just did not. his campaign didn't respond to multiple e-mails. his congressional office also didn't respond and -- and i had a brief exchange with -- with mr. fincham but in the end, he didn't respond. and so, we made multiple attempts. i can't speculate as to why. but they decided not to talk with us. >> i mean, you point out, though, trump's involvement here. it's so important but it's also unprecedented because as i said, most people aren't -- i'm not saying they -- they -- they shouldn't focus on these races but they generally don't. okay? and a former president getting involved at this point in the cycle and secretary of state races in multiple states is an unprecedented thing. and i know you spoke to trump's former aide boris epstein and they are going big on this. >> for sure. as you said, you know, this is -- these are races which are somewhat, i think, in normal years an afterthought. but as we saw in 2020 and what happened with mr. raffensperger, you know, these are -- these are really important races now -- um -- because the election could very well hinge on -- on who is -- who is in those positions. but these -- this is unprecedented. i mean, i don't think we have ever seen a former president get involved in this race this -- this position in -- and backing these races at this level, ever. and it shows how much that is part of -- of trump's strategy. we did speak to mr. epstein. we also spoke with david bossie who is a former deputy campaign adviser and his -- his group, the presidential coalition, interestingly they backed brad raffensperger in 2018. but now, they are backing jody heiss and they put in the max for -- for a primary contribution in june. and they said they are going to be going after other states, as well. >> all right. well, thank you very much, nathan, i appreciate it. and now, i want to go to jena griswold. she is the top elections official for the state of colorado. i am glad to speak with you, again. so, what was your reaction, your first reaction, when you heard this reporting from nathan? >> well, erin, thank you for having me on. um, my top reaction at seeing this reporting is that president trump is trying to make the disavowal of the 2020 elections and democracy a test for his endorsement. and to be very clear, these -- it's very concerning. we need to have election officials -- the chief election officer for states believing in fact and the will of the voter, rather than conspiracy theories and helping their favorite candidates win. so what we are seeing, as you said, is in every swing state, a republican run for secretary of state who's been an author of voter suppression at the insurrection, or lying about 2020. and voters will really be able to decide in 2022 whether -- what will happen with the future of democracy and our nation with these races. >> you know, it's amazing because you have got brad raffensperger in georgia. just come under such incredible pressure and bullying and demands by the president to lie, right? and he has stood up to it, right? and now, they are throwing the president -- the former president is throwing the max against, you know, the rivals. i mean, this is -- they are going all out to win here. and ten of the 15 declared republican candidates for s secretary of state, according to nathan's reporting in these five crucial battleground states, they have either declared the 2020 election was stolen oh or called for their -- to be further invalidated or investigated. what's going on in arizona right now. i keep mentioning georgia. what impact could it have on u.s. elections if people who -- who believe the big lie and say the big lie are in these crucial positions? >> well, it can have a huge impact, frankly. there is a lot of executive authority within the secretary of state's positions. that's why our executive authority has been under attack in places like georgia and arizona. because we can do things like add drop boxes. we can do things like set up automatic-voter registration, expand vote by mail. um, republicans in extreme states have done things also to help suppress the vote. leading the charge to take away americans' freedoms. leading the charge to take away access. but imagine if, in a state like arizona, colorado, where you have proponents of the big lie pushing fake audits, if the sec re sttare of state would spread those lies, imagine if you had a situation in colorado where we had a local-county election officials become an insider threat by leaking sensitive information. what if the secretary of state refused to act? so the -- the effects are rippling. we need to make sure that the people who oversee elections believe in democracy and the will of the people. and that's the fundamental question facing the nation right now. do we believe that americans get to choose their elected officials? democratic secretaries of state say yes. extreme republicans are on the opposite side of that question. >> secretary griswold, i appreciate your time. thank you very much and i want everyone to know there is another republican secretary of state who is standing up for the truth, in this case standing up to the mypillow ceo who's come out with all these kind of bizarre conspiracy theories. republican secretary of state john merrill says lindell's claim is not true. not even possible from a technological standpoint. so you do have people trying to stand up and do the right thing but -- um -- it's just a question of how loud their voices are going to be? outfront now, ron desantis tapping a new state surgeon general and it is a doctor that sounds a lot like the florida governor. plus, cnn tracks down a doctor touted by trump that is now crossing the country spreading alarming lies about covid and vaccines. >> sars-cov-2 is lethal virtually only when the patient was at or exceeded their life expectancy. of seeing the world. but i'm not chasing my dream anymore. i made a financial plan to live it every day. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com frequent heartburn? 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>> well, look, i'm not surprised that the governor picked someone with his world view on these issues. um, the new surgeon general has strong medical credentials and i hope he takes an open mind to -- to his position in evaluating these things on behalf of the residents of florida. the reality is there is a lot of interventions that can have some impact, maybe a marginal impact but some impact. but if there are otherwise less costly interventions that are going to allow us to go about most of our normal activities without much interruption, we ought to reach for those interventions and things like masks are something we can do easily. we know they have an impact. people can debate how impactful they are but if you are wearing a high-quality mask, kn95 mask, level-three procedure mask, it is going to afford you a level of protection. there is pretty good literature right now looking at flu and covid demonstrating that the masks can provide a measure of protection. and in an environment where there aren't a lot of other easy things that we can do, the masks become a very important tool. >> well, i hope -- i hope that he will listen to -- to you and the facts and the studies. i mean, he is a medical doctor. now, the surgeon general there. um, "the new york times" is just reporting that the fda has authorized booster shots of the pfizer vaccine for those who are 65 or older and those at high risk. of course, you said on the -- the board of pfizer. you know the situation well. do you think the fda will do booster shots for those under 65? as president biden has made very clear, dr. gottlieb, that he wants. >> yes. so their -- the approval or the authorization that the fda just issued and i just caught the headline. i had some awareness of it. um -- also scopes in people who are at high risk of severe outcome from covid which can include a occupational exposure. tomorrow, acip, advisory committee to the cdc is going to interpret. and that could be quite broad. it could include a lot of people who are at high risk from a bad outcome from covid because they are more likely to come into contact with the disease that they are working in occupations where they are put at risk of contracting the illness, as well. so cdc is going to get an opportunity. i suspect, what's going to happen is we will continue to collect data on this cohort, 65 and over, and other people who are made eligible and eventually the agency may walk down the authorization to younger age cohorts depending what they learn from the data set here in the united states. >> all right. so the average number of daily cases in the u.s. has been trending down. it's actually the lowest level it's been at in a month and i mention that because you actually predicted this in july. here you are. >> the delta variant's going to move its way through the country over the course of august and september, maybe into october. the peak of this epidemic would really be sometime around the end of september. >> and that's where we are, right? i mean, because we are at 2,000 plus deaths a day. right? so you are at the peak death but cases are trending down. so where do you think we are now in terms of the peak? and -- and if you think that this is soon to be perhaps in the rear-view mirror in terms of delta now, are you now worried dr. gottlieb about other variants that could emerge and become dominant? >> well, look. this has been a highly regionalized epidemic all the way through. there was one point in the winter time when we had a con fluent epidemic across the united states but otherwise, it's been very regionalized. the south had a very dense, delta wave of infection. it's coming down right now and that's what's driving the national average. they are -- they are dropping very quickly. but you are seeing cases pick up in the midwest, states like indiana, kentucky, even ohio. the pacific northwest. the question remains what kind of epidemic delta wave is the northeast gonna see? is the northeast somewhat impervious because they have a high rate of prior infection so there is immunity in the population and also higher rates of vaccination? or will they see some spread? i happen to believe there is going to be a pickup in cases in the northeast that were not entirely impervious from this. and so, you are going to see the delta variant course its way through different parts of the country. now, that said, this is probably the last major wave of infection to sweep the nation, barring something really unexpected happening where you get a variant that pierces the immunity that we have from vaccination and from prior infection. and this is going to start to transition to a more endemic virus where it becomes a constant threat but not the really severe, pervasive threat it is right now as we are in the throes of this epidemic wave of delta. >> dr. gottlieb, okay, if i am vaccinated, can i really go back to normal life? and -- and what you are talking about, about it being endemic, plays into that. but a real big part of what plays into that from what i hear is people wanting to know if the vaccine protects them from long covid, right? am i going to have permanent heart issues? is it going to shorten my life span? am i going to have nervous system issues? brain shrinkage, right? all these fears people have. my friend, piers morgan, tweeted yesterday. has anyone had long covid symptoms for ten weeks or more and then fully recovered? if so, what did you do to get over it? it's getting very irritating. i say this because he's fully vaccinated, got covid as you may be aware and has ended up with this long covid despite being fully vaccinated. this is what people are afraid of. there is a study out of the uk that shows that being fully vaccinated reduces, by half, the odds of getting long covid. it's just one study, though. where are you on this, dr. gottlieb? >> well, look, it's an unclear question right now. there is a number of studies that suggest that if you are vaccinated and you develop an infection, you are less likely to have long-term persistent symptoms. you are also less likely to develop a symptomatic infection if you are vaccinated. i think the other thing is the fact that the children aren't vaccinated. so when i talk to a lot of individuals, they have confidence that since they are vaccinated, they're unlikely to develop a very severe infection. that they are unlikely to be hospitalized from covid. the vaccines have proven very effective at preventing severe disease. what they are concerned about is developing a mild infection or an asymptomatic infection and bringing it back into their house where there may be vulnerable people. and so i think we have to have a better handle on how many breakthrough infections are happening, whether or not people are as likely to be contagious if they are vaccinated and have a breakthrough infection. the answer is probably not. the period in which you are infectious if you have been vaccinated and develop a breakthrough infection is probably much shorter so you shed virus for a shorter period of time. but these are the critical questions we need to answer. and cdc, so far, isn't collecting the kind of information we need on a systematic basis to really answer these questions. the answers we are getting is out of iz ksrael where they are doing a much better job collecting data as well as the uk. >> israel seems to be six weeks or two months ahead of us on pretty much anything. they say do this and we hear from the u.s. community, no, no, no, and then six weeks later, we do it. what are they -- what are they doing better? >> collecting data. um, they are collecting data across their entire population, analyzing it much better than us. >> all right. thank you very much, dr. gottlieb, appreciate your time. it's great to talk to you. and next, cnn tracks down an influential doctor who still has her license and is spreading dangerous lies about covid and vaccines. >> nick watt with cnn. can we speak to you for a couple minutes? plus, underwater dive teams have joined the search for gabby petito's fiance. it has been eight days since he was last seen. so, where do think they brian laundrie is? the end of their first year automatically woo! i got my mo-ney! it's hard to contain yourself isn't it? uh- huh! well let it go! woooo! get a dollar for dollar match at the end of your first year. only from discover. i'm not hungry! you're having one more bite! no! one more bite! ♪ kraft. for the win win. at usaa, we've been called too exclusive. because we were created for officers. but as we've evolved with the military, we've grown to serve all who've honorably served. no matter their rank, or when they were in. a marine just out of basic, or a petty officer from '73. and even his kids. and their kids. usaa is made for all who've honorably served and their families. are we still exclusive? absolutely. and that's exactly why you should join. emergency planning for kids. we can't predict when an emergency will happen. so that's why it's important to make a plan with your parents. here are a few tips to stay safe. know how to get in touch with your family. write down phone numbers for your parents, siblings and neighbors. pick a place to meet your family if you are not together and can't go home. remind your parents to pack an emergency supply kit. making a plan might feel like homework, but it will help you and your family stay safe during an emergency. tonight, an influential covid skeptic who spreads vaccine misinformation far and wide and pushes a conspiracy that the pandemic was a quote pretext to take down the u.s. also, happens to be a licensed medical doctor and an indicted january-6th insurrectionist. yep. nick watt is outfront. >> reporter: she wears a white coat but not a face mask. struts to a ted nugent tune in a promo video. tours the country making false claims about the coronavirus. >> asymptom at ilatic spread is thing. >> all the vaccine candidates have problems. the spike proteins themselves are what we doctors call pathogenic, meaning they are disease causing. >> reporter: that is not true, dr. paul offit, member of the fda vaccine advisory committee, told cnn. but dr. simone gold is a licensed emergency room physician, so people listen to her. >> there are two huge impacts when a doctor lies in the middle of a plague. one, other critics, doubters quickly point out that they are doctors. suggesting that their opinions are somehow mainstream or common. the other is that they have trust on the part of the public. >> reporter: and the cdc says the unvaccinated are 11-times more likely to be killed by covid-19. but dr. gold claims she's saving lives, leading a civil rights crusade against vaccine mandates. >> with the tyranny of medical apartheid nipping at our heels, rise up, rise up, rise up! yes. >> reporter: she actually likens herself to susan b. anthony and rosa parks. and just rolled up to a rally in san francisco like a tardy rock star draped in the flag, claiming our leaders are the ones lying. >> the other one that really hurt our country was saying that masks work. >> reporter: gold claims she's been cancelled by big and social media. we caught up with her at that rally in san francisco this past weekend. >> dr. gold, nick watt with cnn. can we speak to you for a couple minutes? >> reporter: it was her speech flanked by associates on the steps of the supreme court that catapulted gold to fame or infamy. >> we're here because we feel as though the american people have not heard from all the expertise that's out there. >> reporter: president trump retweeted this video which social media companies later took down of them promoting unfounded cures like hydroxychloroquine. through gold's website, you can now connect to a third party that offers a $90 telemedicine consultation and those unfounded medicines for an additional price. patients with symptoms will be prioritized. >> that's preying on people who are desperate, trying to sell them junk when they're in dire straits. >> now, gold has been arrested and indicted. but for this, filmed inside the capitol during the january-6th insurrection. # she pleaded not guilty to all five counts, including disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building. >> at the very least, it means the government can't be saying it's safe and effective. >> reporter: as of today, gold is still a licensed doctor here in california. the state's medical board can't say if she is under investigation, citing confidentiality. but told us, publicly spreading false covid-19 information may be considered unprofessional conduct and could be grounds for disciplinary action. >> i think people who spread false information or undermine trust in vaccination at the present time are spreading misinformation that is dangerous, that cost lives. and i think their licenses should be revoked. >> reporter: and that, i'm told is a slow and deliberate process in any state. and, you know, it should be. doctors work long and hard to get that license, so it shouldn't be taken away lightly. now, now, dr. gold is not the only doctor in this country spreading covid misinformation. there aren't many of them but even one doctor saying this stuff has an outsized influence. erin. >> absolutely. so many just grab onto it. nick watt, thank you so much for your always-excellent report. next, as the search intensifies for gabby petito's fiance, we are learning new details about brian laundrie's demeanor after he returned home without gabby. plus, he was kidnapped from a chicago hospital as a baby. only to be found and reunited with his family. but as you are about to learn, that's not the whole story. al. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ lisa here, has had many jobs. and all that experience has led her to a job that feels like home. with home instead, you too can become a caregiver to older adults. apply today. that delicious omelet was microwaved? 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>> i thought it was just, again, a normal, you know, they were going for a walk kind of -- um -- you know, thing. so never thought anything about it. >> the initial determination for the manner of gabby petito's death, homicide. the fbi now asking the public for assistance. some tips to the fbi proving valuable. a second person says he witnessed a domestic dispute between petito and laundrie on august 12th, and gave a handwritten sworn statement saying in part, they were talking aggressively at each other and something seemed off. at one point, they were sort of fighting over a phone. i think the male took the female's phone. it appeared that he didn't want her in the white van. and from my point of view, something definitely didn't seem right. another witness, jessica schultz, a woman who was camping in wyoming says in a tiktok video that she alerted the fbi when she spotted the white van used by laundrie and petito suspiciously parked for several days. >> so a group of friends and i were camped from the 22nd to the 29th and in that timeframe, we all independently noticed that van parked there and i noticed it particularly because i had seen it trying to park and also because it wasn't actually parked in a designated spot. i figured they'd get booted by the people that patrol the area but the van was there for several days and nights. and it did not get booted. the weirdest part about it was was that there was no indication that there was anybody actually at the van. >> and jessica schultz declined to comment to cnn. the fbi also told us that they would not comment, citing privacy on this report. as for where the focus is on this search, we know that the fbi is digging through much of the evidence that was recovered earlier in the week from where the couple lived. and the search here at the carlton reserve continues because police tell us this is the only information that they have to go off of from the family. the family telling them that this is where brian laundrie was headed the last time they saw him and, erin, as for tonight, the search has ended. we expect them to begin again in the morning. >> leyla, thank you very much reporting as you can see there venice, florida. out front now, jim clemente. underwater dive team now called in for the search for brian laundrie who nhas not been seen by his family in eight days. at this point, do you think there is any way they are not looking for a body as opposed to a live person? >> i think if he's in the preserve, i think it -- it maybe raises the chance that he might not be alive. but i don't think that it's necessarily where he is. i mean, if you look at the best predictor of human behavior being a past pattern of behavior. and you see the fact that he had sort of set up an alibi with these young ladies who had given him a ride hitchhiking. he left the vehicle at the location where the body was later found. and he hitchhiked away from that. so, he was setting up an alibi by leaving a vehicle in one place and going in another direction. >> so, one of brian laundrie's neighbors told fox news that laundrie seemed normal. that was the word they used after he returned home on september 1st without petito. and she said, quote, he mowed the lawn. him and his mother went for a bike ride around the block. everything was normal life once he came back. it seemed like nothing bothered him. what does this tell you and add to the profile you've been building of him? >> well, if you look at his behavior, that is, if he was involved in her death. and at this point, we know of nobody else who could have been but if he was involved in her death and then he came home without her, knowing that her body was laying in that -- in the ground somewhere in the middle of nowhere. and then, he acted very normally. it just -- it seems like there's a lack of empathy there and that's a lack of empathy that i saw on the body cam of the police officers, as well. his fiancee, who he says he loves, is in extreme distress just yards away from him and he is laughing and joking with the police officers. it seems like that could be an indicator that he doesn't have a level of normal human empathy. and that could put him somewhere on th on. next, a baby kidnapped and years later reunited with who he believes are his parents. but what really happened? 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he is like i don't know what to think. i don't know what to feel but he -- he was upset but yet masking it, i could tell. he's like, i can't believe it. he's like they're not the real -- he's like i don't know my birthday. he's like i don't even know where i was born or who my parents are. he's like i have no idea. he's like i don't even know how old i am. >> don't miss the lost sons, sunday night at 9:00. thanks so much for joining us. ac "360" starts now. new information at this hour, and breaking news in the killing of gabby petito and the disappearance of her fiance, brian laundrie. what we learned could shed new light on her final days alive and his state of mind as the manhunt for him takes a new direction. again, tonight, we are joined by crime buster john walsh, whose viewers, as always, are lending their eyes and ears to the effort. first, though, our randi kaye in moose, wyoming, with the new information. randi.

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