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you know, the debt ceiling, when you raise the debt ceiling, you are not authorizing future debt and future spending. you are, in effect, acknowledging the debt and the spending that has already occurred. and of course most of that occurred under president trump and republican-controlled senate. so it is kind of the high point of hypocrisy to now refuse to pay the bills that you ran up, you know, while you were in control. you know, there's just a tiny number of republicans who have indicated any openness to this. in the end, democrats may have to figure out a way to do this like almost everything else on a party-line basis. but as usual, we are sailing into crisis without a clear port in sight. >> kirsten, democratic factions are really at a standoff over infrastructure and the entire agenda in peril right now. sources are saying the president is going to meet with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer tomorrow as well as some of these democrats that he thinks he can salvage this. what do you think? >> i don't think it's in peril. i think that this is part of the deal-making that happens in washington and that both sides are going to stake out these -- i mean we started out with these really astronomical numbers, you know, and then it ends up shrinking down a little bit, and that's what happens. this battle between progressives and moderates has been around for as long as i've been around. the progressives have just become a little more powerful. but in the end, i think what will happen is that each side is going to have to give a little and they're going to have to do something that's going to work for the president. and i don't really see democrats making it impossible for president biden to get -- not just have a win, not to just have a political win, but to be able to effect the kind of change that very few presidents get to do, especially in this era, where it's so difficult to get enough votes to get anything done. so if he has a chance to do anything, i think that you will see democrats come together around that ultimately. >> who's going to compromise to see him do that? are the democrats going to compromise? >> well, i think both sides will have to compromise a little bit. >> what did you say, ron? >> yeah, no. i think she's right. you know, look, the perils of pauline is not unusual in these legislative fights. the aca was declared many times in 2009. the clinton budget survived in 1993 by the barest of margins. even the bush tax cut faced a 25% reduction in 2001 because of defection from some senate republicans. almost always, almost always they find a way to come together because the alternative is so damaging for really both sides who are negotiating. the progressives obviously don't want to see too much of this $3.5 trillion spending package cut away. it's been described as the great society in a single bill. i think that's a fair comparison. look, if the democrats look to be in total disarray, it is the frontline moderates who are going to pay the biggest electoral price. so it is in everyone's interest to find an agreement. usually as you look back at the big legislative fights, the history is that they do. the counterexample is the republicans never found a way to come together on repealing and replacing the affordable care act. there is the risk of failure, but the downside of failure is so high for both factions in the party, it is really hard to believe they would be logical enough to let it all crash and burn. >> how many votes did we stay up late into the night and cover about the affordable care act, and then john mccain coming and going -- >> yes. >> they tried. they really, really did try. listen, we've gone through this whole debt ceiling thing before. >> yes. >> you know, people not getting their checks and, you know, all kinds of things. we've gone through this before. who gets the blame for this, you think, kirsten, if it is shut down? >> well, i mean, if it's shut down, the blame should go to the people who are responsible for shutting it down. in this case it clearly would be the republicans. i don't see how anybody could look at it and say otherwise. they haven't really even given a credible reason to oppose it. it's just that this is what they do. they just oppose everything. >> well, the difference, biden is in office. there's a democratic president in office. that's the difference. >> but this is -- but since obama, this has been their strategy, right? this wasn't always the way that they operated, and their strategy has just been oppose, oppose, oppose, just make things as difficult as possible. forget we actually were sent here to be helping run this country. it's just all about preserving and gaining power, and i'm not saying like -- i'm not saying democrats don't care about power. of course they do. but there is this dynamic where the democrats are the grown-ups, and the republicans are acting like children, and it's just -- it's incredibly tiring, and it's incredibly dangerous, and it harms a lot of people. >> that's why it gets so frustrating. i'll let you jump in, ron in a second. when people try to both-sides all of this. there's honestly one side who is acting like the adults in the room, and everything else is politics as usual. >> yes. >> you have what's happening at the border. it's terrible. it's politics as usual. most of it is politics as usual. we can deal with it. but there's one side now who's really not operating in reality, so it's hard to kind of both-sides all of these issues. go ahead, ron. >> even more fundamentally, there's one side that is, you know, turning away from being a small "d" democratic party in kind of the western tradition and kind of moving openly to both suppress the rights of people to vote and potentially to subvert the election result. the only thing i was going to add is doesn't it seem like everything that is happening in the last few weeks underscores how ridiculous it is that we are still being held hostage by the filibuster? i mean the reason we are at risk of crashing the domestic and global economy and defaulting on our debts is because of the possibility of the filibuster. the reason democrats are trying themselves in knots trying to negotiate an entire legislative agenda in one bill is because it's the only way they can avoid the filibuster. the reason it's unclear whether democrats can respond to this anti-democratic push going on in so many red states is because joe manchin and kyrsten sinema may not let them, you know, get around the filibuster. i mean the anachronism of the filibuster in a quasi parliamentary system where the president can basically count on no votes from the other party and allowing, what, 43% of the country represented by republicans at this point in the senate to basically veto the agenda of the majority, i just think everything that is happening is pointing democrats toward having to confront whether the filibuster still makes sense in this era. >> all of this for this relic of an idea, the bipartisanship, for the sake of bipartisanship. not going to work. thank you both. i appreciate it. i want to turn to evan os oes. he's been covering joe biden for years and he has a new book. it's called "wild land: the making of america's fury." another book on my reading list. evan, thank you so much. i appreciate you joining us this evening. look, you literally wrote the book on joe biden. will this go down as the biggest make-or-break week of his presidency or too soon to tell? >> well, this really is everything that he's been training for. i mean if he was an athlete, you would say this is sort of the olympic gold medal event because it's relying on some of those closed-door interactions which he has always prized. the ability to, you know, let's be honest, get joe manchin in a headlock and get him to say, okay, i'll reach a deal, or to figure out how to use the power of the pulpit and try to push people. but, look, don, the truth is that the reason why it's such a make-or-break moment is precisely because there has been so much deferred maintenance in the fullest sense of the world, not just in infrastructure terms but in the most basic political terms, addressing these huge, overwhelming challenges for the united states. it shouldn't have to have rested on a single bill, but we find ourselves in that moment. and he would probably be -- he would be able to admit this. he's too old, and he's been at this too long to let a moment like this go by. so, yeah, it's all on the line. >> well, listen, the house majority leader, steny hoyer, told reporters tonight that he hopes that biden has the secret sauce to bring all factions of the democratic party together behind these two bills. is this the plan, hope it works out? >> the secret sauce in this case is his approach to the negotiation, which is actually quite specific and a bit odd in washington. his whole view is don't get people into the room and focus immediately on what you don't agree on. get people into the room and say these are the eight things we agree on, and now we'll talk about the two we don't agree on, which sounds like it's intuitively obvious except what he's trying to do is to say to them, this is our moment. if we fall short on this, not only do we leave the country behind, but we also will fundamentally imperil the credibility and the future of the democratic party's ability to attract young people. you had record turnout in 2020, don, for people voting because they said this is an opportunity to try to tun the tide. and if they fall short, then they're falling short of something beyond just this individual bill. >> i hope they're listening to you. evan, this all comes as president biden addressed the u.n. general assembly today, defending his decision to withdraw from afghanistan. here it is. >> i stand here today for the first time in 20 years with the united states not at war. we've turned the page. all the unmatched strength, energy, and commitment, will, and resources of our nation are now fully and squarely focused on what's ahead of us, not what was behind. >> so, i mean, this is the foreign policy pivot biden wants to make to focus on future threats like china. but the president still has major questions to answer about the chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan, does he not? >> he does. i mean turning the page is the goal, but some of his allies are not ready to do that. what's interesting, don, if you look at what he's actually saying, he's saying it is time for us to focus on the challenges of the next 20 years, not the last 20 years. i decided to go back and look at a comparison between the u.s. and china 20 years ago. the u.s. economy was eight times the size of china's economy when the united states went into afghanistan. today our economies are about equal. the words that you heard him say today in his unga speech, the most important ones were democracy. he mentioned it a dozen times. and competitiveness. he kept referring to this question of competition. he didn't talk about china by name, but he said we want to avoid a cold war, but we must be competitive. what he's trying to do is say to the allies, look, i get it. you're not on the same page as me about how we did it. we probably could have done this a lot better, but now we have to shore up this alliance if we want to be prepared for the next 20 years. >> here's what president biden also promised. he promised an era of relentless democracy in his speech while france, one of our key allies, is calling the united states' new submarine deal with the uk and australia a stab in the back. will biden be able to repair this critical relationship? >> he will. it's going to take a lot of work. there's some real bruising on the u.s./france relationship, but it's one of the oldest diplomatic alliances in the world for a reason. i mean between the united states and any country, and that's because we've been through a lot. and, you know, if you really press the white house on it, they would probably say to you, is france going to turn against the united states and join up on another team? it doesn't seem like it. part of the reason why france is responding the way it has been is because it has its own domestic political demands and issues. and joe biden would be the first one to tell you that as he knows. i think they underestimated just how much of a reaction this would generate in france. but there are reasons why france is responding the way it is, and the biden administration has work to do. look, tony blinken is a secretary of state of speaks french. there was a lot of excitement about him coming into office when he did. i think he's going to be on the phone to paris a lot over the next few weeks and months. >> it's not london calling. it's going to be paris calling, or him calling paris. thank you very much. i'll see you soon. thousands of migrants still crowded along the rio grande, and we're learning border patrol agents being investigated over that confrontation with the migrants are now on administrative duties. >> i was horrified by what i saw. i'm going to let the investigation run its course, but the pictures that i observed troubled me profoundly. tony here from creditrepair.com taking to the streets to talk about credit. can you repair your credit yourself? 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>> i think it's the policy, don. i mean i think that while we are talking about and investigating the perpetrators of this particular incident, what the administration is not talking about is ending the trump-era policy that got us here. i mean it's title 42, which stephen miller used to crack down on migrants coming across the border. it's the same policy that -- it's the same trump policy that this biden administration is going to court to fight for, which allows you to expel migrants quicker when they're coming over looking and seeking asylum. and it allows for things like what we saw to happen. anyone who looks at what we saw and the crisis that we saw with these haitian migrants, anyone who saw that and whose stomach doesn't turn does not truly understand what this country stands for. and until we get rid of these trump-era policies, i mean you can't blame trump anymore. he's not the president. but until you get rid of these trump-era policies and add some humanity to your immigration policy, none of this really matters. it's all talk. >> scott, one of the videos shows a patrol agent swinging a horse rein in a way that looks to many like a whip. is that troubling to you? >> i tell you what's troubling to me candidly, don, is the instant attempt to vilify these border patrol agents that are clearly overwhelmed. we have -- you showed the pictures -- thousands upon thousands of people trying to stream into this country illegally. these border patrol agents are doing the best they can in an impossible situation. then you have all these people swooping in trying to vilify them, and now they've been placed on administrative leave. you know, there was an instant sort of reaction. oh, they're using whips. they're not whips. they're reins as you correctly called them. i don't like the idea that we ask these public servants to do an impossible job and then we vilify them because people don't know the difference between whips and reins. i don't like this whole situation. i don't like thousands of people. i don't like the fact that the biden administration has failed. i don't like the fact that kamala harris is m.i.a. on all this. but i don't think these border patrol agents ought to take the bruntd of our anger about a failed policy. joe biden is the president and he's going to have to do something about this because this is a disaster and a disgrace. >> go ahead, bakari. >> nothing that scott said outside of the fact that it's a failed policy actually rings true. first, kamala harris did speak out against it but she has to not only speak out but hold mayorkas accountable, and i agree with that. look, i have a great deal of sympathy and compassion for our law enforcement in this country. it's a very difficult job that they have. but when you start whipping people and when you want to split hairs between reins and whips, i don't care what it is. that lacks humanity. and if you don't have the compassion or ability where you blow a gasket and you can't do the job, then don't do it. but my cgod, you can't beat people. you can't separate them when they're in your custody and yell at them and treat them like they're less than human. no one is asking border patrol to do anything other than treat them with their humanity. we know they're put in a very difficult situation. there's no doubt. but the point is you can't treat people like they're less than just garbage or trash. and that's the biggest problem that we have. they treated those -- >> you don't think that there is some truth to the border patrol agents being -- >> there's no question that border patrol probably needs to be paid more. they have positions that need to be filled. i'm sitting here in a hotel room in petersburg. i'm not on the border with them. i completely understand all of that. but all i'm talking about, don, is common decency. like you can't whip people's ass with a whip or a rein and say you're doing your job simply because your job gets difficult. you treat people with humanity. none of those migrants were any type of lethal or deadly threat to any of them. but instead, they treated them like garbage, and i don't care what anybody says about how difficult your job is. you better get some compassion, or you better get some empathy because that's just not right. >> i would just say you've got a few guys on horses and thousands of people streaming across the border. what is the alternative, bakari? are they supposed to just stand back and let people stream across the border? i know that's what a lot of democrats think is the correct policy, but i don't think that's what the american people want. there has to be some order to this. i actually believe we ought to be taking in refugees, people seeking asylum. i believe in that, and a lot of republicans do. but what we don't believe in is letting people stream across the border, come into the country illegally outside of any recognized process. that's what we don't have, and you put these border patrol agents between a failed policy and thousands of people that want to come in, and then you show up and try to vilify them for riding a horse and you can't tell the difference between whips and reins. i think it's disgusting. we have to have compassion, but we got to have laws and a process, ask that's why these border patrol agents are in such a rough spot here. >> first of all, democrats don't want people to stream in without a process. what we're saying is we want a process. nobody wants open borders. we actually want a process that has humanity, a process that allows these individuals to seek asylum as they should and not just be rounded up and shipped back and not know where they're going when they're actually coming to try and seek asylum and they need a process to be able to do it. that's first. you're giving people a false choice. no one is simply saying that either we have laws and you get to beat people with reins or whips. there's no real cleardy certainment between the two, or you don't. my only point is, look, do your job, and i know your job is difficult. but how difficult is it for me to ask you to give people the benefit of their humanity and not whip them? like not whip them. i don't understand why that's so difficult. >> all right. thank you very much. we're going to be continuing this. listen, the pictures and the images are horrible, but the reality of what those people are dealing with, even worse than the images. thank you very much. i appreciate it. the fbi director coming out with a warning everyone should hear today, saying domestic terrorism has, quote, exploded over the past year and a half. so what are they doing about it? >> today terrorism moves at the speed of social media. in business, it's never just another day. it's the big sale, or the big presentation. the day where everything goes right. or the one where nothing does. with comcast business you get the network that can deliver gig speeds to the most businesses and advanced cybersecurity to protect every device on it— all backed by a dedicated team, 24/7. every day in business is a big day. we'll keep you ready for what's next. comcast business powering possibilities. so here's the breaking news right now. the former president has filed a lawsuit in new york state court against his niece, mary trump, as well as several "new york times" journalists for the disclosure of his tax information that was published in several "new york times" articles. remember the damning reports included many details like trump paid no federal income taxes whatsoever in 10 out of 15 years beginning in the year 2000? the litigious former president is seeking damages in the amount to be determined at trial but believed to be no less than $100 million. a "new york times" spokesperson says the lawsuit is an attempt to silence independent news organizations and the paper plans to vigorously defend against it. in a statement mary trump said, and i quote, i think he is a loser, and he is going to throw anything against the wall he can. it's desperation. the walls are closing in, and he is throwing anything against the wall that he thinks will stick, as is always the case with donald, he'll try to change the subject, and that's a statement from mary trump. also happening today, the fbi director christopher wray testifying that his agency's domestic terrorism caseload has exploded since last year. >> since the spring of 2020, so the past 16, 18 months or so, we've more than doubled our domestic terrorism caseload from about 1,000 to around 2,700 investigations, and we've surged personnel to match, more than doubling the number of people working that threat from a year before. >> joining me now, former director of the national intelligence james clapper. he is now a cnn national security analyst. thank you, sir. appreciate you joining us. director, it's hard to believe that it wasn't so long ago that people were shocked by the idea that domestic terrorism was such a major threat. what happened? >> well, count me among those who were shocked. it's hard not to think back 20 years ago and what we just commemorated, the anniversary of 9/11, where we're completely focused on the foreign terrorist threat. and now at a very high volume and velocity, that's all changed, and it is a profound thing. it really is. the thing that struck me, don, about director wray's testimony was this skyrocketing caseload of domestic terrorist cases and the manpower and resources, special agents, analysts, support people that have been put on these cases. well, what is it that's not getting done now? so the big worry for me frankly is does the fbi, with all that it is expected of it, have sufficient resources? because he also talked about the cyber threat, the china threat, in addition to the very profound threat posed by domestic terrorism. >> yeah. he spoke about the role social media plays in domestic terrorism. let's listen to that. >> some of these same people before might have been stewing away in, you know, the basement or the attic in one party of the community and not communicating with the other. but today terrorism moves at the speed of social media, and you have the ability of lone actors, disgruntled in one part of the country to spin up similar like-minded individuals in other parts of the country and urge them into action or inspire them into action. >> so, director, we know social media was used to help organize the january 6th attack. are officials focusing enough on what is happening online? >> i believe the fbi certainly is. i don't know if people appreciate what a weapon social media can be. this is something i saw very dramatically in the run-up to the 2016 election in how the russians use social media to exploit the divisiveness and polarization in this country. and of course we used to worry about foreign terrorists radicalizing people here in this country. now we have our own people radicalizing other u.s. citizens. >> mm-hmm. >> it's, to me, very scary development and particularly given its magnitude and the speed with which this radicalization process can happen. >> director, we've discussed this before, but considering, you know, today with the director of the fbi is saying, director wray testified of that the biggest chunk of racially and ethnically motivated violent extremism the fbi tracks is now favoring white supremacy. what is going on with that? what is driving that? >> well, i think, you know, our last president, i think, had a lot to do with this. i think the dog whistling that went on for four years, i think, brought out an element in this country that i think had been suppressed, tried to stay below the radar, and now it has come into prominence where in their minds, it's okay to be overt -- an overt white supremacist. and it's a very disturbing trend. >> yeah. you know, just last week, capitol police caught a man with a machete and a bayonet near the dnc headquarters, director. i mean his car was outfitted with neo-nazi symbols and a swastika. are these lone wolves a bigger threat than the larger organized groups, you think? >> well, i think -- in fact, i think director wray in his testimony mentioned this, that their concern is the lone wolf, the lone actor. and this is something in common with, i think, with domestic terrorism and that which is foreign-inspired, is someone who becomes radicalized and doesn't evince any signatures, to use an intelligence term, that alerts you to them. and director wray pointed out what a challenge that is for the fbi. >> yeah. director clapper, thank you, sir. it's always a pleasure to see you. >> thanks, don. >> it's good to see you in a studio instead of, you know, in your house. >> in new york city of all places. >> thank you, director. i appreciate it. be well. >> thank you. new information about covid booster shots out tonight. we're going to tell you who else might need to look into getting another shot. that's next. that's a nice truck. yeah, it's the chevy silverado. check out this multi-flex tailgate. multi-flex, huh? wow. it becomes a step. mom, dad's flexing again. that's not all. you can extend the bed for longer stuff. is he still... still flexing. that's right! and, it becomes a workspace... you can put your laptop here. i'm sending an imaginay email. hey dad, dinner! hey! look who stopped by daddy's office. wait, you work here? 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(music) ♪ i think to myself ♪ ♪ what a wonderful world ♪ (music) ♪ i think to myself ♪ ♪ what a wonderful world ♪ some very important information coming out that will say exactly what to do. so wait until then but i can give you a sense that, yes, particularly if you're older, you are going to be recommended to get a booster even with the j&j vaccine. >> as we await the fda's final decision on booster shots, doctor, do you expect they'll do anything other than adopt the recommendations for a limited rollout? >> i don't think so. i think they'll go right with that recommendation. that's what we have the data for. but what we have to also understand is we're going to continue to follow people more and more months after their second dose for the mrna vaccines and the one dose for j&j. remember the first people to get the vaccine eight months ago were health care workers and those who were in long-term care facilities, the older population. they're the ones now that have been out six to seven to eight months where they could see more waning immunity. we're going to start having 25, 45, 55-year-olds who will also get out there eventually. i think the data will show they too have more breakthroughs. not even just breakthroughs but potential for more severe illness. if that's the case, i think you're going to be seeing booster recommendations. they're going to take it down to potentially very young ages. >> i can't believe we're talking about this again this year, doctor. but this warning that doctors are giving us about the potential of twindemic this winter between covid and the flu. why is it expected to be so much worse this year? >> you know, you may not recall but i actually said on this show a year ago when people were predicting twindemics then that we have to be careful because we don't know why this virus does what it does or why did the flu disappear last year. we have just come through the winter in the southern hemisphere and they say no increase in influenza again. i think we could have the same situation, but it's better to be prepared. so get vaccinated now. don't wait for it to happen. but don't expect necessarily that it is going to be a twindemic. this is where we need a lot of humility. we're learning a lot about this virus. if you could explain to me why new york and l.a. right now are seeing very little activity relative to what the rest of the country is seeing given they have the same rates of vaccination, the same activities going on, we can't explain it. i think this is the part where humility is an important part of our science approach. >> there you go. humility. thank you, doctor. i appreciate it. >> thank you. the search for gabby pe petito's fiance picks up again in the morning. one woman is speaking out saying she and her boyfriend picked up brian laundrie as a hitchhiker. her story after this. what was that? judy? d-con. mice love it to death. tonight a coroner in wyoming confirms human remains found in grand teton national park are those of gabby petito. the fbi says her death is a homicide and that final autopsy results will determine the actual cause of death. meanwhile, police in florida still searching for petito's fiance, brian laundrie. cnn's randi kaye is in wyoming retracing some of their steps. >> hi. my name is miranda baker and on august 29th, my boyfriend and i picked up brian at grand teton national park at 5:30 at night. i'm hoping this can help someone identify him. >> reporter: that's miranda baker sharing her story on tiktok on social media about how she believes she and her boyfriend picked up gabby petito's fiance, brian laundrie, when i was hitchhiking. >> he approached us asking us for a ride because he needs it to go to jackson, which we were going to jackson that night. i said hop in. he hops in the back of my jeep. we then, you know, proceeded to make small talk. >> reporter: she says the chance encounter happened on august 29th, five days after gabby last facetimed her family. miranda says before he got in her jeep, the man offered to pay her $200 for the ride. she says he offered this explanation for what he was doing out there on his own. >> he then told us he's been camping for multiple days without his fiancee. he did say he had a fiancee, and that she was working on their social media page back at their van. >> reporter: this is colter bay where miranda baker says she picked up brian laundrie. it's about 17 miles from the entrance of the spread creek camping area. miranda says brian laundrie was carrying a backpack, wearing long sleeves and hiking boots. she also made a few other observations. >> he had told us that him and gabby were not camping on a regulated camp site in the national park, that they were camping basically out in the middle of nowhere along snake river. this is key information. he said that he had hiked for days along snake river, but like looking at his backpack, it wasn't full, and he said all he had was a tarp to sleep on. >> reporter: she said he asked to go south to jackson, wyoming. when she told him she was heading to jackson hole nearby, this happened. >> he freaked out. he's like, nope, i need to get out right now. you know, like pull over. so we pulled over at the jackson dam, which i don't know if you know like teton park, but it's not very far from colter bay. he kind of like hurried out of the car, and then he's like, okay, i'm going to find someone else to hitchhike. we're like, okay. it was a weird situation. >> reporter: this is jackson lake dam where miranda baker says she dropped brian laundrie off. it's less than ten miles from where she picked him up, so he wasn't in the car very long. she said that he told her he was going to walk across the street to that parking lot and look for another ride to keep on hitchhiking. where he went from here is still a mystery. in another video, she provides evidence of her encounter. >> this is a text i sent my mom. this had the date in it and the time stamp. so we dropped him off at 6:0 9. we picked him up at 5:54. >> reporter: randi kaye, cnn, moose, wyoming. >> thank you, everyone, for watching. our coverage continues. tony here from creditrepair.com taking to the streets to talk about credit. can you repair your credit yourself? 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