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cleared by the government, suella braverman accused the metropolitan police of "playing favourites" by treating pro—palestinian marches differently to demonstrations by right wing groups. our home affairs correspondent, june kelly, has the latest. the war in the middle east has led to weekend pro—palestinian protests in london... ..and other cities around the uk. and tomorrow, once again, demonstrators are due to be on the march in the capital. they're scheduled to set off after the armistice day two minute silence. suella braverman has denounced these demonstrations as hate marches and, controversially, she's accused the police of showing favouritism to left wing groups. the met police commissioner sir mark rowley insists there are currently no grounds to ban tomorrow's march, and now he's being backed by another senior officer. the chair of the national police chiefs' council, gavin stephens, says in policing we need the space to make difficult operational decisions in an independent manner. however, some politicians are adamant the march should be banned and there was this message to the met. i am begging them, and i use that word advisedly, begging them for the sake of all of those servicemen, ex—servicemen and the public, who hold this as a sacred day, think again. from one of his conservative colleagues, there was a different appeal. i would just say to every minister and every political leader, we've got tojust use our language carefully and we've got to make sure that we concentrate on dampening things down rather than fuelling that sort of hatred and that division. so this weekend, as the country remembers so many lives lost in wars past, it's the response to a current conflict which is causing division. june kelly, bbc news. our political correspondent hannah millerjoins us now from the cenotaph in central london. very worth going through the ministerial code when it comes to this article and the rules that surround ministers. absolutely. we are at the cenotaph _ surround ministers. absolutely. we are at the cenotaph this _ surround ministers. absolutely. we are at the cenotaph this morning i are at the cenotaph this morning where there are due to be remembrance commemorations over the weekend. the main one happening on remembrance sunday. tomorrow is armistice day march is due to happen. it doesn't actually go exactly passed this spot. this has an almighty rowjust behind those gates in downing street. rishi sunak is in difficult spot. he has admitted suella braverman did not have sign off on the word she used and that means she can either be left in place, in which case she would have been seen to undermine him or he can sack her. downing street are looking at the ministerial code, the rules ministers have to follow while they remain in post. it says all major announcements have to be cleared by downing street. the question is whether this opinion piece really was a major announcement. there are disagreements about language used. quite senior conservative mps feel she has stepped over the line and are calling for her to go. her team would argue the article she wrote yesterday was was not a major announcement as search and for that reason she has not necessarily breached the ministerial code. ultimately, rishi sunak will decide whether or not she has and whether or not she should go.— whether or not she has and whether or not she should go. thank you very much. or not she should go. thank you very much- let's — or not she should go. thank you very much- let's get _ or not she should go. thank you very much. let's get an _ or not she should go. thank you very much. let's get an update _ or not she should go. thank you very much. let's get an update on - or not she should go. thank you very much. let's get an update on what . or not she should go. thank you very much. let's get an update on what is happening in the middle east. charlie. israel's prime minister says the country's goal is not to conquer, occupy or govern the gaza strip after its war with hamas ends. hamas is designated a terrorist organisation by the uk. meanwhile, israel is implementing daily four—hour pauses to allow civilians to flee northern gaza. here's our middle east correspondent yolande knell with the latest. even as the war rages on in gaza, the debate is intensifying about what comes next if israel deposes hamas. israel's prime minister recently said his country would keep security control here indefinitely — but that idea was criticised by washington, and he's now shifting his position. we don't seek to govern gaza, we don't seek to occupy it, but we seek to give it and us a betterfuture in the entire middle east. fleeing israel's advances and in search of food and water, tens of thousands of palestinians have been heading south this week, at times when israel's army is allowing safe passage. the us says it's a step in the right direction. it's pushing for longer pauses — short of a full ceasefire — to get aid into gaza. in gaza city, israel says its forces are tightening their stranglehold. there have been fierce battles near two major hospitals — including al—shifa, which israel says is in the heart of the hamas military quarter. but with every day of fighting, fears grow of a humanitarian catastrophe. more than a month after the deadly cross—border attacks of hamas brought heavy israeli bombardment, civilians in gaza are paying a grave price. many thousands killed and wounded, and 1.5 million displaced. the suffering is immense. yolande knell, bbc news, jerusalem. yolande joins us now from jerusalem. i suppose we had two things to talk about this morning, comments from benjamin netanyahu. so many people asking about the end game and how things end in any way at all and the practical issue of these pauses, these four hour pauses. that practical issue of these pauses, these four hour pauses.- these four hour pauses. that is ri . ht. these four hour pauses. that is right- first _ these four hour pauses. that is right. first of _ these four hour pauses. that is right. first of all, _ these four hour pauses. that is right. first of all, on _ these four hour pauses. that is right. first of all, on the - these four hour pauses. that is right. first of all, on the issue | these four hour pauses. that is i right. first of all, on the issue of the future of the gaza strip after the future of the gaza strip after the war, that is something that is coming up increasingly. it was very much the subject of some of the conversations that us secretary of state antony blinken was having when he went around the region and met israeli officials. the americans in particular want to know what the endgame is. there was alarm in washington with some of the comments that came from mr netanyahu said earlier in the week which opened the way for occupation of the gaza strip. the americans came out and said they saw a different sort of future where the whole of the gaza strip should remain palestinian land and that a palestinian should have governance of both the west bank and the gaza strip together. it should be a step on the path to palestinian statehood, the international long formula for peace in this part of the world. then we have seen a slightly different comments coming from mr netanyahu in the past 2a hours where he is saying, we do not want to have an occupation of gaza, we want to make sure that future terrorist threats cannot emanate from there. that is on the one hand. otherwise, what the us has really been pressing for other humanitarian pauses. what the israelis are saying is we are already and now allowing those and in the last few days we are giving for our windows which are sometimes extended for people in the north of the gaza strip to flee from the south. we have seen that with many people making the journey using the last bit of fuel in petrol tanks of their cars and even taking the donkeys and carts, not carrying many possessions at all. they are fleeing the fighting that is increasingly encircling part of gaza city, different neighbourhoods, and also complaining as they leave, they have not been able to get drinking water orfood supplies. not been able to get drinking water or food supplies.— government plans to reform adult social care in england are behind schedule — according to a report from the spending watchdog. plans for a decade—long overhaul of the system in england were set out in december 2021 but the national audit office says more than half of the budget has since been diverted elsewhere. the government says it remains committed to reforms. a production company owned by the actor, robert de niro, has been ordered to pay a former employee more than one million dollars over claims of gender discrimination and retaliation. it ends a year—long legal battle after graham chase robinson alleged she was abused, demeaned and underpaid. jurors did not find the actor personally liable in the civil trial. vehicle breakdowns caused by potholes have reached a record high due to the "substandard state" of local roads. the rac said it received almost 6,000 call—outs due to poor road surfaces in the uk, betweenjuly and september. the government says an extra £8 billion has been allocated to help fix the problem. new figures released later this morning, will give us an indication of the health of the uk economy. the latest gdp figures forjuly to september will be released at 7:00 this morning. peter ruddick is at a factory in cardigan for us this morning. it is one of those significant days when everyone has a moment, a snapshot of where we are at. that is ri . ht. snapshot of where we are at. that is right- these — snapshot of where we are at. that is right. these figures _ snapshot of where we are at. that is right. these figures matter, - snapshot of where we are at. that is right. these figures matter, not - right. these figures matter, not just in downing street where there will be watched very closely but they have really important real—world impact. a growing economy means businesses expand where they can invest and create jobs. means businesses expand where they can invest and createjobs. a slowing economy, that means firms and livelihoods are at risk. i am jeans factory today in cardigan, where they know all about the impact of economic ups and downs. at one point it was the largest factory for jeans. now it is under new ownership. owners have re—employed lots of local people. rising costs mean operating a business at the moment is still a challenge. if we look at the national picture. the uk economy has actually proved relatively resilient. between april and june it expanded by 0.2%, helped by hotels, restaurants and live events. today the figures are about to in that period we are expecting a knot .1% decrease in gdp, essentially a shrinking of the economy due to both bad weather but also the rising impact of interest rates. that is a problem in downing street. the prime minister has made growing the economy one of his five priorities for the year. you'll get those figures at seven this morning. there could be signs that things will get worse before they get better. the bank of england says we are in a 50% chance of a recession. that is a worry and notjust politically. that is a worry and not “ust politicallvi that is a worry and not “ust oliticall . ., ~' , ., , . in a major scientific feat, surgeons in new york have performed the world's first eye transplant. aaronjames underwent 21 hours of surgery, in an operation that replaced half of his face after a work—related accident. our reporter sean dilley has the story. this is a medicalfirst. aaronjames is the first human recipient of a whole transplanted eye. they told me, they said, "honestly, we never expected it to make it to the transplant, you know?" i mean, never expected it to work at all. and they told me that from the get go. but just the fact that it's allowed... i mean, you know, that's... that's the first step. surgeons here in new york spent 21 hours removing part of their donor's face and left eye, including the optic nerve, then skillfully grafting them on to their patient. this is a day that could so easily have never come for aaron james. the 46—year—old electrical worker from arkansas suffered life—changing injuries injune 2021 after his face contacted a 7,200 volt live wire. the accident cost him his left arm, nose, lips, front teeth and left eye, as well as his chin and part of his cheek. do you have any pain at all? no. it's been six months since the experimental surgery. so far, the transplanted eye sees nothing, but surgeons are positive about what this means for the future. well, i'm pretty impressed with what we're seeing this early on. at this point, the mere fact that the eye is alive and looks healthy is pretty special. for aaronjames, the cosmetic benefits are plain for others to see, even if his new left eye can't. but doctors say the first whole human eye transplant offers real hope that what they've learned here could one day restore sight to those who cannot see. sean dilley, bbc news. that is an extraordinary story. the —— bbii is alive and healthy but he cannot actually see out of it. —— the eye. music legend sting has officially accepted the freedom of his home borough of north tyneside, 13 years after it was offered. the singer and bass player was awarded the honour in 2010, but his touring schedule delayed him receiving it. sting said growing up in the area, was central to his career success. everything i've achieved in life was dreamt up in north tyneside. so in a way, it's coming full circle and having the borough acknowledge that is a kind of fantasy in itself. i'm not sure whether i dreamt it up, whether i fantasised that one or not, but it is a fantasy. he has a very strong bond with the place you came from. better late than never, that award. here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. perfectly placed under a rainbow. not a pot of gold! fix, perfectly placed under a rainbow. not a pot of gold!— perfectly placed under a rainbow. not a pot of gold! a double rainbow. a lovely day — not a pot of gold! a double rainbow. a lovely day to _ not a pot of gold! a double rainbow. a lovely day to come _ not a pot of gold! a double rainbow. a lovely day to come in _ not a pot of gold! a double rainbow. a lovely day to come in north - a lovely day to come in north tyneside are more of us will see the sunshine over the next couple of days. we do have a few lively downpours particular towards wales and the southwest. some strong wind. more sunshine developing across the country. in the best of the sunshine you have that trickiest of starts. parts of scotland down to —5. cooler start to a morning since april. temperatures down to seven, 11 in some southern coastal counties. here the wind is whipping up. longer spells of heavy and re—rain will get us through the morning rush hour. that is heading south and east. come north, a few showers close to the coast will fade away. a few shows to the north of northern ireland and scotland. a dry start. if the patches of mist and fog. the sun will be up in a couple of hours and it should be a fine day. one or two showers into the north of northern ireland and it will turn wetter in the north—east of scotland. the rain and strong winds were clear through, just clearing away from the far south—east corner as we head into the second half of the afternoon. temperatures on the cooler side will stop with clearer skies quit lighter winds tonight, it will be a colder night for many. the exception will be in scotland. a greater chance of frost in central and eastern scotland and down through northern and eastern england. it leads us into a lovely day on saturday. the vast majority, there will be plenty of sunshine around to get your weekend under way. still sunshine around to start on sunday that more cloud and rain will gather data. i5 cloud and rain will gather data. is mist a new thing in your graphics? i mista new thing in your graphics? i have mist a new thing in your graphics? i have never seen that before. it will! have never seen that before. it will be a case of _ have never seen that before. it will be a case of mist _ have never seen that before. it will be a case of mist and _ have never seen that before. it will be a case of mist and fog _ have never seen that before. it will be a case of mist and fog around i be a case of mist and fog around this weekend, some of it can linger. thousands of people will march past the cenotaph this sunday, to remember those who've fought for their country. among them will bejilly and her sons austen and cooper — their dad christopher, an armed forced veteran, took his own life in 2017. it's the first time the boys are taking part in the remembrance day parade — supported by a charity for bereaved military children. they've been speaking to our reporterjohn maguire. what are we talking about? pretty, isn't it? it is. do you like it, cooper? yeah. it's nice. it's a very good place to share your memories. this is a place of comfort, peace and solace forjilly and her two sons, austen and cooper. we were driving on the top of here, and cooper got really upset. so we stopped and we kind of all had a cuddle and we talked about dad and we got out and i think we all stood and realised, "oh, wow, look this place is amazing! why did we not come and stand here?" so itjust became somewhere that we came on dad's birthday. on remembrance, we do father's day. the boys were just seven and three years old when their dad, chris, a photographer in the army, took his own life seven years ago. both boys were so young. so initially i'd done the whole story that daddy was a star and not really been honest with them about what had happened. and it was quite a tough journey. since chris's death, they've been supported by scotty's little soldiers, a charity that helps bereaved children from military families. genuinely believe if we hadn't have met scotty's, the journey for all three of us would have been really, really different. ijust remember us not really talking about it. and you would do things you didn't think we'd notice — like you'd just go into the bathroom and cry, while we'd sit in the living room and just pretend to ignore it — we started talking about it and we started doing it through ways that would help us. like, i always did it through art, and you would just do it whenever you felt. you'd just talk because you're good at that and you'd make up little stories that you remembered and you'd tell us things about that, and that would be your way of connecting. and then we joined scotty's and it's just... it's helped us so much. the charity provides services such as counselling, but also organises parties and activities for the children. they can take part in a council and have a say on how it's run. austin is a member. i love being on the council because obviously you get to put your say, you get to say what you want to do and put that into scotty's. recently, we brought out a video for kids especially. remembrance can mean a lot to us as it's the one time of year when the whole country is invited to pay their respects to the men and women who have served our country, including our parents. and it'sjust saying, well, you're not alone and it probably feels like it, but you're not. and there's everyone here. it's really important to know that you're not alone. the precious box of keepsakes helps them talk about chris. the charity has shown them how to have those conversations and to ensure he remains part of the family. now we will say to people, "no, we talk about dad all the time, and we're still really close to dad's family. we spend lots of time with them as well." so it's really, really special. and it is all down to the fact that they opened us up to start those conversations. they're receiving their distinctive yellow and black scarves to join other families at the remembrance sunday parade in london — an event they had previously avoided. i've always felt that we're expected to grieve on that day. and actually, the boys don't grieve because it's remembrance, the boys grieve because their dad's not here, and they grieve on days that he might want someone to take him to football or austin's doing a show. and actually, there's that empty seat, i guess, for cooper. he asked this time, "why are we not going? and i said, "oh, i didn't think you wanted to." and he said, "well, i do, because it's about remembering my dad." and you're really proud, aren't you? so you really want to wear the medals and do that walk. and actually we said, "well, we all make choices as a family," so that's what we do. well, i wasjust thinking, right, i don't get to know much about him. i was only young, so i... i don't remember much at all. it'sjust nice to, like, learn more about him — learn some stories and have fun really _ we need to figure out which side they go because... remembrance means different things to us all. but, for this family, it's about the husband, father and soldier that they've lost but is still a major part of their lives. john maguire, bbc news, penistone in south yorkshire. our thanks to them ahead of the weekend, paying tribute to their dad. very moving hearing those two young men talking about their diet. it is the first time they will take part in that parade. the sense of camaraderie they will feel be something to treasure forever. let's take a look at today's papers. the times says the government told the home secretary to "tone down" her article and ministers are now trying to "establish the detail" of how the piece was published without formal approval. it adds that rishi sunak is now "weighing up braverman's future" and could bring forward a cabinet reshuffle, in order to remove her. the guardian's front page also features suella braverman. it reports that labour has "sought to pile pressure" on the prime minister, with shadow cabinet office minister pat mcfadden saying that to "do nothing" about the article would be a "display of weakness." a report from two journalists, who met with israeli military on the gaza front—line, leads the sun's front page. the paper says they went inside a hamas base where they were shown "chilling items" related to the 7th october attacks. and one of the most—read articles on the bbc news website is about strictly come dancing star amy dowden, who has rung the bell to signify the end of her cancer treatment. the dancer had her eighth and final round of chemotherapy yesterday. congratulations, amy. a hedgehog—like creature, that was believed to be extinct, has been captured on film for the first time. named after sir david attenborough, the ancient mammal is thought to have first emerged 200 million years ago, and has now been re—discovered in indonesia. our environment correspondent jonah fisher has more. that's the first ever image, that one, of attenborough's long—beaked echidna. that anyone has ever recorded... ever. ..in entirety of history? correct. proof of life from a species that was feared lost forever. i was euphoric and the whole team was euphoric. 12 seconds of camera trapped footage, a reminder that there are still places on earth that humans have not disturbed. it's absolutely astonishing. i think it's extremely important to discover enigmatic new species and rediscover enigmatic lost species because they demonstrate the value of the environment in which they live. it's an echidna and you can tell that it's a mammal because it's got hair. a favourite of sir david, the rediscovered species is called attenborough's long—beaked echidna. it's weirdly different from a hedgehog, a porcupine, or almost any other kind of mammal. here sir david is with its much easier to find cousin, the short—bea ked echidna. thought to have lived alongside dinosaurs, echidnas are one of only two mammals to lay eggs. just one specimen of the attenborough echidna has been gathered, back in 1961. it's so special it's kept under lock and key in the treasure room of naturalis, the natural history museum of the netherlands. it may look a little bit like a run over hedgehog, but until now, this unique specimen was the only proof that the attenborough long beaked echidna actually existed. and that's because these echidna live in one of the most remote places on earth, the cyclops mountains in indonesia. previous efforts to find the echidna failed due to a combination of opposition from local villagers and the brutal conditions. you got it? yeah. so you're slipping all over the place. you're being scratched and cut. there are venomous animals around you. deadly snakes like the death adder. there are leeches literally everywhere. my colleagues and i were chuckling all the time. oh, this is new. nobody has seen this. it wasn't all about the echidna. other scientists in the four—week long expedition found new discoveries, in particular of insects at every turn. it was a truly monumental expedition. and you think you found lots of new species? several dozens, for sure. in the nearest village to the mountains, the attenborough echidna's elusiveness plays a role in local tradition, as a way to bring peace. when members of the community are in conflict, one is sent up into the mountains to locate an attenborough's long beaked echidna, the other goes out into the ocean to locate a marlin. this can sometimes take decades, but once those two very difficult—to—find animals have been located, it symbolises that the sort of quest for the resolution of conflict is complete. having established that the cyclops mountains are as unique as the echidna that lived there, the hope is that it will be easier to get all of it protected. jonah fisher, bbc news. so the long big echidna has been rediscovered. we saw the short big echidna. very cute. then he really enjoyed that peace doing all those —— seeing all those marvellous animals. coming up later in the programme... from much—loved family pets to life—saving companions, we're a nation of dog lovers. the broadcaster clare balding has been exploring our canine friends for her new book, and she'll be here to tell us all about it, at ten to eight this morning. it's at her with her dog? it must be. she will be delighted with that picture. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm alison earle. police investigating the disappearance of a man in south london have found a body in the boot of a car. justin henry was last seen on the 15th of october at a fast—food restaurant in croydon. two men have been charged with his murder. 72 billion litres of sewage has been pumped into the river thames since 2020, according to figures from the liberal democrats. the worst—affected site was mogden near twickenham, where over 17 billion litres was released. thames water said it's started a £100 million upgrade of the mogden sewage treatment works, which will reduce the number of storm discharges from the site. counting begins this morning in the by—election to see who'll be the new mayor of hackney. the vote was held following the resignation of the former labour mayor. he stood down over his association with a former councillor found guilty of possessing indecent images of children. the result is expected around lunchtime. vehicle breakdowns caused by potholes are said to have reached a record high due to the "substandard state" of local roads. that's the verdict of motoring group the rac, which said it's received nearly 6,000 call—outs due to poor road surfaces between july and september — that's a 46% increase from the same period last year. hard to believe, but this was 17 years ago. # and moments like this... leona lewis became a global star after winning the x—factor in 2006. since then she's sold 35 million records. she now divides her time between london and la and is soon off on a uk christmas tour. but when she's not here, there is one thing she always craves. i really miss a good roast dinner. you take that for granted when you're living here — it'sjust normal — but when you're away, that's what i really miss, yeah. 0k — noted! travel now, and this is how the tube is looking at the moment. there's no service on the overground between liverpool street and cheshunt / chingford due to a signalfailure. there's also no service between willesden junction now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. there are a few showers around first thing this morning — one or two of those could be quite heavy, but sunny spells developing as we head further through the day. now, you can see the progression of the showers overnight coming in from the northwest, so this morning they're likely to be to the west and the south of london, but we could get one or two isolated showers anywhere. ahead of them, clearing away south, dry this afternoon, plenty of sunshine, and temperatures reaching around 11 celsius — feeling cool in a northwesterly breeze. now, overnight, it's dry and it's clear. the wind light, too, so we could see one or two mist and fog patches develop — largely out towards the home counties — but a widespread frost as temperatures drop down to one celsius. for saturday, it is looking dry and clear. plenty of sunshine around after a cold, crisp start to the day. temperatures tomorrow, again around ten, 11 celsius — just a bit of patchy light cloud. then, as we head into sunday, bright start. another frost as temperatures in low single figures, but more cloud and then some patchy light rain through the middle part of the day. there's more on our website, including the historic london sites said to be at risk. that's it for now — i'm back in around half an hour. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. let's return to one of our main stories this morning, and the comments made by israel's prime minister on the future of his country's relationship with gaza. benjamin netanyahu said israel is not seeking to conquer, occupy or govern the gaza strip after its war with hamas ends. hamas is regarded as a terrorist organisation by the uk government. speaking to us television outlet fox news, he spoke about the future governance of the territory. we'll have to find a government — a civilian government — that will be there, but in the foreseeable future we have to make sure that this doesn't happen again. so we have to have a credible force that, if necessary, will enter gaza and kill the killers. because that's what will prevent the re—emergence of a hamas—like entity. yeah. meanwhile, president biden says israel's plan to implement daily four—hour military pauses, to allow civilians to flee areas of northern gaza, is a "step in the right direction". there will be two humanitarian corridors established, allowing people to escape the bombardment. more than 10,000 people have now been killed in gaza since the start of the war — according to the hamas—run health ministry — including more than 4,000 children. our correspondent, yogita limaye has been to meet some of the gazan children, facing life—long disabilities. singing. what must it take for a mother to comfort her child... ..when reality is so devastating? two—year—old fatima was stuck under the rubble of a bombing in gaza three weeks ago. this woman and her husband had tried for 1h years to have a baby. and then fatima was born. translation: what is her fault? what did she do wrong? we have to constantly give her painkillers. as soon as the effect of one wears off, i give her another. her life revolves around painkillers, and every other day she undergoes surgery. trapped in gaza, under the constant threat of being bombed. hospitals fill up with more wounded children. amira, 13. seven of her brothers were killed — and her mother, too. her father says they'd fled to southern gaza for safety. that's where they were bombed. amira has spinal injuries. "i want peace and security. i want to be treated and go back to normal life — to my home," she says. "i want to feel safe." it's not clear if amira will be able to walk again. yogita limaye, bbc news, jerusalem. meanwhile, back in the uk, the controversy over a planned pro—palestinian march on armistice day continues. after the home secretary accused the metropolitan police of "playing favourites" by treating pro—palestinian marches differently to demonstrations by right wing groups, one of the uk's most senior police officers has responded by saying policing cannot be influenced by politics. we're joined now by dal babu, a former police chief superintendent for the metropolitan police. we appreciate your time this morning. can you may be first of all help our audience with a bit of the relationship between home secretary in this case and the most senior police officer in the country, the head of the metropolitan police? how different is what you have seen happen over what suella braverman said in relation to the met police? can you describe why this is so significant?— can you describe why this is so significant? can you describe why this is so siunificant? ,., ., ., , , significant? good morning. this is unprecedented. _ significant? good morning. this is unprecedented. the _ significant? good morning. this is unprecedented. the home - significant? good morning. this is. unprecedented. the home secretary along with the mayor of london are responsible for effectively the management of the most senior police officer, said mart crowley. the intervention and operational level is unprecedented. i have never known an example where the home secretary has intervened on operational policing matters. quite frankly, politicians don't necessarily understand the tactics, the legislation and the process and procedure of operational policing. when a fire arms command, i wouldn't expect politician to tell me what to do with firearms officers, in the same way you would expect a politician to tell a police officer how to manage a major march. you how to manage a ma'or march. you must have _ how to manage a ma'or march. you must have seen, — how to manage a ma'or march. you must have seen, as _ how to manage a major march. you must have seen, as everyone has, what suella braverman has said about perception, she said, that senior officers play favourites when it comes to protesters. what was your thought? i comes to protesters. what was your thou . ht? . , comes to protesters. what was your thou:ht? ., , ~ comes to protesters. what was your thou ht? ., , ~' , thought? i was quite shocked. it is the kind of— thought? i was quite shocked. it is the kind of article _ thought? i was quite shocked. it is the kind of article you _ thought? i was quite shocked. it is the kind of article you expect - thought? i was quite shocked. it is the kind of article you expect to i the kind of article you expect to see from an economist, not a holder of one of the great estates of office. i think it was inaccurate. i was the borough commander in harrow when we had the far—right group english defence league group during ramadan, it was passed the mosque. i didn't want to do much to take place but it still took place. so the idea that the far right are not allowed to march is untrue.— that the far right are not allowed to march is untrue. some people miaht to march is untrue. some people might say. _ to march is untrue. some people might say. dal— to march is untrue. some people might say, dal babu, _ to march is untrue. some people might say, dal babu, the - to march is untrue. some people might say, dal babu, the idea i to march is untrue. some people i might say, dal babu, the idea that the home secretary cannot have a frank opinion about policing in the country, that seems fair, why shouldn't she be allowed to have a strong and forthright opinion on how policing should happen? i think strong and forthright opinion on how policing should happen?— policing should happen? i think you can certainly _ policing should happen? i think you can certainly have _ policing should happen? i think you can certainly have an _ policing should happen? i think you can certainly have an opinion - policing should happen? i think you can certainly have an opinion but i can certainly have an opinion but this has gone more than opinion. this is an attempt to impact on how the march is policed. it is about operational policing, interference. that is a huge difference there has been. i think without a shadow of a doubt this is unprecedented and very, very unhelpful. i doubt this is unprecedented and very, very unhelpful.— very, very unhelpful. i should apologise _ very, very unhelpful. i should apologise to _ very, very unhelpful. i should apologise to you _ very, very unhelpful. i should apologise to you and - very, very unhelpful. i should apologise to you and people | very, very unhelpful. i should - apologise to you and people watching because our image of you on your link has actually frozen but we can hear your words perfectly well. can ijust hear your words perfectly well. can i just ask you about the march itself, and that day itself. the attention that has been drawn to this moment in time on armistice day, in relation to this row, if you can call it that, between home secretary and the met police. what do you think the impact of that is? i think it is very troubling, very worrying. normally these conversations would be held behind closed doors. there may well be a difference of opinion but the ultimate thing to do is to make sure that there is not any violence, any disorder. the danger is with the kind of language the home secretary has used, she has talked about hate marches, being very, very derogatory about policing. the danger is that this will make far right groups more bold and possibly come out when there was no intention is to do so. in the last month we have had marches during the israeli bombing of gaza, the marches have included people of up to 250,000 people, it hasn't resulted in any major public disorder. i think we have had less than 30 arrests at a march of 150,000 people. so there is no evidence for what the home secretary is suggesting. you have had the national police council come out and express concerns about political interference. this is unprecedented and i hope that people will use calm heads, calm voices, calm language to calm things down and not to stoke up any potential disorder.— any potential disorder. thank you very much. _ any potential disorder. thank you very much. that _ any potential disorder. thank you very much, that is _ any potential disorder. thank you very much, that is dal— any potential disorder. thank you very much, that is dal babu, - any potential disorder. thank you very much, that is dal babu, a i very much, that is dal babu, a former metropolitan police superintendent. apologies that the image froze but i think it was important to carry on and hear what dal had to say. we important to carry on and hear what dal had to say-— dal had to say. we will be speaking to stehen dal had to say. we will be speaking to stephen flynn, _ dal had to say. we will be speaking to stephen flynn, the _ dal had to say. we will be speaking to stephen flynn, the snp - to stephen flynn, the snp westminster leader, late in the programme, regarding that and pressure that the snp is putting on the labour party to call for an immediate ceasefire in israel and gaza. let's talk to mike. it amazes me when you hear of personal trials that sports people or anyone who is doing a high—profilejob that or anyone who is doing a high—profile job that they go through personally and yet still perform. lewis diaz —— luis as an example of that. perform. lewis diaz -- luis as an example of that.— example of that. liverpool left it to him to the — example of that. liverpool left it to him to the cyber— example of that. liverpool left it to him to the cyber to _ example of that. liverpool left it to him to the cyber to play. - example of that. liverpool left it to him to the cyber to play. firstj to him to the cyber to play. first match since his father was taken. he was in france with the liverpool team when he heard the news, saw pictures of his dad being released in colombia and reunited with the rest of his family and nothing else mattered. absolutejoy rest of his family and nothing else mattered. absolute joy for luis diaz and relief. iiis mattered. absolute 'oy for luis diaz and relief. , ., , ., and relief. his mum was also kidnapped- — and relief. his mum was also kidnapped. she _ and relief. his mum was also kidnapped. she was - and relief. his mum was also kidnapped. she was released and relief. his mum was also i kidnapped. she was released on and relief. his mum was also - kidnapped. she was released on the niuht kidnapped. she was released on the ni . ht of the kidnapped. she was released on the night of the hostagetaking - kidnapped. she was released on the night of the hostagetaking but - kidnapped. she was released on the night of the hostagetaking but his i night of the hostagetaking but his dad is now home. the news of his dad's release came through just a couple of hours before liverpool and diaz kicked off their europa league match in toulouse in the southwest of france. thousands of miles away, manny diaz was given a hero's welcome as he arrived home, weak but in good spirits, having been held captive for 13 days. the colombian police and military had focused their search in dense forests near the border with venezuela. his kidnappers, the national liberation army — had said they'd taken luis diaz's parents at gunpoint by mistake. his mother was released that night, and finally yesterday the kidnappers handed his father over to members of the united nations and catholic church. he was returned home and reunited with his family in emotional scenes. they'd waited for this moment for nearly two weeks. translation: first of all, i i want to thank god for having given me this second chance, and for being back home. i want to thank all the people at barrancas, the families, and colombia for the great support they have given my family. thank you all. i love you all very much. very soon i will have the opportunity to hug you all. thank you so much, my people, thank you. after hearing the joyful news, diaz started in the match at toulouse, and was said to be beaming by his manager. liverpool lost the game. diogojota pulled it back to 3—2 in the 89th minute to give them hope, and they thought they'd equalised seven minutes into added time throutharell quansah, but there was yet another controversial var decision — the goal ruled out for handball, way back in the build—up. managerjurgen klopp's press conference afterwards the match was as tumultuous as those final moments of the match. we were as good organised as the way to the press conference, obviously. pretty chaotic. who had the idea to do the press conference here? that will be a really interesting question. wow. loud chanting. elsewhere in the europa league, it was a great night in amsterdam for brighton, who recorded a commanding win over ajax. this is brighton's first european campaign — remember and they completed back—to—back victories against the dutch giants ansu fati, scoring before setting up simon adingra to make it 2—0. a goal by lucas paqueta put west ham top of their group as they beat olympiacos 1—0. two points from their final two games will be enough to ensure european action after christmas for the third season in a row. rangers are also in good shape to make the knock—out stage after a 2—1win over sparta prague, todd cantwell scoring what turned out to be the winner. rangers are second in their group. in the europa conference league, a late winner by ollie watkins helped aston villa come from behind to beat az alkmaar 2—1. after watkins sneaked in between the dutch defenders, villa need just one more point from their final two matches to reach the knockout stages. aberdeen can't now make it through in the europa conference league, despite a cracking free kick from jamie mcgrath, which earned them a point against paok in athens. a busy night of football, but there we go. a busy night of football, but there we no. ., ~' a busy night of football, but there we no. ., ~ ,, there has been a lot of rain. storm babet and ciaran. a beautiful picture again. i know it sounds trite but we just want some respite from the rain. we need it, we certainly do. i am a glass half full type of person and i have a bit of optimism. certainly for the start of the weekend. very good morning. we have something drierforjust about all. good morning. we have something drier forjust about all. i find datacom for some today and as we head into the weekend, saturday is a day to get out, enjoy the changing autumn colours while we still have them on sunday should start fine before the rain arrives again. through the weekend you will notice much colder, some frost in the morning to the north and east and fog patches. that window of quieter weather is out there, clear slot here just ahead of the rain which will come in on sunday. for the time being notice how these clouds are circulating anticlockwise, an indication of low pressure and lighter clumps in wales and the south—west, really lively, heavy showers and thunderstorms at the moment. gale force winds, 50 to 60 mph through the south and english channel. the rainbow push its way southward and eastward through today, eventually clearing from the far later. a few isolated showers north and east scotland, becoming more abundant later, the shower in northern ireland. for the majority of friday afternoon looks good. some sunshine around, not especially warm, seven to 11 degrees, a little down on where we should be for the time of year but not far off. this evening and overnight, cooler weather in place, a few showers in northern scotland, northern ireland, drifting into parts of wales. clear skies in between, a greater chance of frost across some parts of southern scotland, northern and eastern england. temperatures in major towns and cities one or 2 degrees, frost in the suburbs and countryside. into armistice day, a case of blue skies for many throughout, some dense patches of fog around to begin, showers in north wales, the odd isolated shower close to the north sea coasts but for most, a dry saturday as we started to cloud and rain arrived to the far south—west into the afternoon and more especially into the evening. temperature are fairly similar to what we will see through today. the cloud and rain will start today. the cloud and rain will start to make inroads as we go into sunday. slow progress, heavy bursts through the night into sunday morning around the english channel and fire south—west but elsewhere, clear skies still, and increasing moisture in the atmosphere. could see more fog. quite a murky start to sunday in many parts of the country and one or two of you will struggle to brighten up. dense patches of fog around. frost to the north and east of the uk, outbreaks of rain in the south—west are slowly pushing northwards and eastwards through the day. northern ireland, points in the midlands, north—west england. not much rain across eastern parts of england and through scotland, if you clear the fog, it will be another fine day for remembrance sunday, some sunshine in many places especially around the coast. temperatures similar to recent days, around seven to 12 degrees, may be milder to the but into next week, i know i am a glass half full type of person, milder to the but into next week, i know i am a glass half full type of person, there milder to the but into next week, i know i am a glass half full type of person, there will milder to the but into next week, i know i am a glass half full type of person, there will be milder to the but into next week, i know i am a glass half full type of person, there will be a milder to the but into next week, i know i am a glass half full type of person, there will be a bit milder to the but into next week, i know i am a glass half full type of person, there will be a bit more rain around. person, there will be a bit more rain around-— earlier this week, we heard the first king's speech in more than 70 years — setting out the government's plans for the upcoming year. now, the scottish national party is calling for an amendment — and a vote on an immediate ceasefire in the war between israel and gaza. we're joined now by the snp's westminster leader, stephen flynn. stephen flynn, good morning to you. good morning. flan stephen flynn, good morning to you. good morning-— good morning. can you explain? we have the kings _ good morning. can you explain? we have the kings speech _ good morning. can you explain? we have the kings speech last - good morning. can you explain? we have the kings speech last week, i have the kings speech last week, lots of plans laid out and then there are days of debate. what are you proposing now?— there are days of debate. what are you proposing now? essentially what we are proposing _ you proposing now? essentially what we are proposing is _ you proposing now? essentially what we are proposing is that _ you proposing now? essentially what we are proposing is that at _ you proposing now? essentially what we are proposing is that at the - we are proposing is that at the first available opportunity to us, which i think would be next wednesday, we want to have a vote in the house of commons on a ceasefire. we want to put international law, the preservation of civilian life, and peace at the forefront of our efforts in relation to the horrific scenes we have all seen in gaza over the course of recent weeks. all of us, all of us are acutely aware of the apparent atrocities undertaken by hamas on october the 7th and there can be nojustification, know ifs and buts that that was an appalling act. similarly we cannot just sit silently whilst there is collective punishment unfolded on the palestinian people in gaza, it is estimated some 10,000 civilians have been killed, in excess of 4000 of those are children. it needs to stop and it needs to stop now. sir keir starmer has been challenged and i know you are appealing to all the parties tojoin in i know you are appealing to all the parties to join in this amendment. sir keir starmer has been challenged, leader of the labour party, and he has said that a humanitarian pause is the approach and he has explained it is the only credible approach. he has explain this because he says and he argues that a ceasefire would leave hamas' infrastructure intact, enabling the group to carry out future attacks. do you —— did you see that interview? and we are seeing pauses to allow civilians to move in for our windows. to allow civilians to move in for ourwindows. in to allow civilians to move in for our windows.— to allow civilians to move in for our windows. ., ., ., ., ., , our windows. in relation to hamas we are all united — our windows. in relation to hamas we are all united in _ our windows. in relation to hamas we are all united in our _ our windows. in relation to hamas we are all united in our belief— our windows. in relation to hamas we are all united in our belief that - are all united in our belief that hamas can and must be defeated but it is what that defeat looks like and what the collateral damage of that defeat looks like, which we all need to reflect upon. are we seriously saying that we, as one of the permanent members of the un security council, i happy to just sit silent while civilians are killed in their thousands? i am not comfortable with that and i'm surprised that the leader of the labour party and indeed the leader of the conservative party are. what we are seeing with this humanitarian pauseis we are seeing with this humanitarian pause is more questions than answers. civilians within gaza expecting to be moving to, where are they expecting to be moved to? what happens after those pauses? do the bombs that were expected to drop in that window simply follow in the hours following? this is a devastating situation and it is why we need a ceasefire now to uphold international law, and collective punishment and save civilian lives. i should say that the king's speech was this week, days merge into one sometimes and the debates go on. how confident are you that the party leaders will agree to this amendment?— leaders will agree to this amendment? �* ., .., ., leaders will agree to this amendment? �* ., ., ., amendment? are not confident at all that they will — amendment? are not confident at all that they will agree. _ amendment? are not confident at all that they will agree. i _ amendment? are not confident at all that they will agree. i think _ amendment? are not confident at all that they will agree. i think that - that they will agree. i think that is to the detriment of the parliament itself. as i said earlier, the uk is a permanent member of the un security council. whether we like it or not, we have a say and we have a voice and what we are proposing is notjust unique to the scottish national party, i think 76% of people on these isles are in support of a ceasefire. emanuel macron is in support. the un general secretary is in support of a ceasefire and we know the likes of david miliband, a former senior figure in the labour party, yesterday called for a ceasefire, as well. what we are seeking to do is uphold national law —— international law and protect civilians. how many more children have to die before the uk grows a backbone and speaks up? i want to go through your thoughts in the time remaining about the controversy, the discussions about pro—palestinian march taking place in london on armistice day. first, do you think that march should go ahead? mr; do you think that march should go ahead? y ., ., ~ do you think that march should go ahead? g . ., ~ ,., do you think that march should go ahead? g . ., ~ ., , ahead? my grandfather, like so many other people's _ ahead? my grandfather, like so many other people's on _ ahead? my grandfather, like so many other people's on these _ ahead? my grandfather, like so many other people's on these isles, - other people's on these isles, fought in the second world war and i never got the opportunity to speak with him about it but i have no doubt he did so on the basis of fighting to protect our freedoms and one of those freedoms was fundamental rights we all enjoy, the right to protest. you can fundamentally disagree with the cause, with the banner under which people choose to protest, but what we all must do is defend that right to protest and i'm quite unequivocal in that regard, if people want to protest and protest peacefully, they should be allowed to do so. the home secretary suella _ should be allowed to do so. the home secretary suella braverman _ should be allowed to do so. the home secretary suella braverman has - secretary suella braverman has spoken about this march and no doubt you will have seen the article yesterday in the times. what is your position on her comments? the home secreta i position on her comments? the home secretary i believe _ position on her comments? the home secretary i believe is _ position on her comments? the home secretary i believe is quite _ position on her comments? the home secretary i believe is quite a _ secretary i believe is quite a dangerous individual. we have seen some comments from her in recent times in relation to asylum seekers, in relation to the homeless which i think quite frankly are nasty. and now she is poisoning the well, rishi sunak is weak. he cannot afford —— no... he must do should not have put in place. no... he must do should not have put in lace. ., ., , ., ., in place. you need to explain that. you said he _ in place. you need to explain that. you said he is— in place. you need to explain that. you said he is weak— in place. you need to explain that. you said he is weak and _ in place. you need to explain that. you said he is weak and cannot - in place. you need to explain that. | you said he is weak and cannot get rid of her. we you said he is weak and cannot get rid of her. ~ ~ ., rid of her. we know the prime minister in — rid of her. we know the prime minister in order _ rid of her. we know the prime minister in order to _ rid of her. we know the prime minister in order to become . rid of her. we know the prime - minister in order to become prime minster stuck a deal with the right wing of the conservative party and suella braverman taking back on the role of home secretary was key to that after all liz truss had sacked her beforehand. even liz truss had a site suella braverman. now the prime minister cannot get rid of her, he is incredibly weak. i think the entire public know she needs to go, she is not fit for office, she is a nasty politician and a nasty politician should not hold the position of home secretary. you would like _ position of home secretary. you would like to _ position of home secretary. you would like to see _ position of home secretary. you would like to see her sacked? . | would like to see her sacked? . stephen flynn, westminster leader of the snp, thank you for your time. coming up later in the programme... we'll have the first—ever glimpse of an extremely rare mammal — that was believed to extinct. the re—discovered species has been named after sir david attenborough — and we'll have all the details later in the programme. it in the programme. is all about the beak. short bea 01’ it is all about the beak. short beak or a long beak. and those images we will explain have never been seen before. ., ., . ., will explain have never been seen before. ., ., ., ., ~ , will explain have never been seen before. ., ., ., ., a , before. not for a long time. as this lona one before. not for a long time. as this long one never _ before. not for a long time. as this long one never been _ before. not for a long time. as this long one never been seen? - before. not for a long time. as this long one never been seen? well, l before. not for a long time. as this long one never been seen? well, it is the filming. _ long one never been seen? well, it is the filming, it _ long one never been seen? well, it is the filming, it has _ long one never been seen? well, it is the filming, it has never - long one never been seen? well, it is the filming, it has never been i is the filming, it has never been filmed before. you will see in the filmed before. you will see in the film later that there is a dead version of that animal that exists in a museum, effectively, and nobody has ever filmed the creature live. i'm sorry, i have lost the name... adincna? ?_ adincna? ? echidna. we are on a learnin: adincna? ? echidna. we are on a learning curve. _ time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. i'm alison earle. police investigating the disappearance of a man in south london have found a body in the boot of a car. justin henry was last seen on the 15th of october at a fast food restaurant in croydon. two men have been charged with his murder. 72 billion litres of sewage has been pumped into the river thames since 2020, according to figures from the liberal democrats. the worst—affected site was mogden near twickenham, where over 17 billion litres was released. thames water said its "started a one hundred million pound upgrade of the mogden sewage treatment works, which will reduce the number of storm discharges from the site. counting begins this morning in the by—election to see who'll be the new mayor of hackney. the vote was held following the resignation of the former labour mayor. he stood down over his association with a former councillor — found guilty of possessing indecent images of children. the result is expected around lunchtime. vehicle breakdowns caused by potholes are said to have reached a record high due to the "substandard state" of local roads. that's the verdict of motoring group the rac, which said it's received nearly six thousand call—outs due to poor road surfaces betweenjuly and september — that's a 46% increase from the same period last year. hard to believe but this was 17 years ago. # a moment like this....# leona lewis became a global star after winning the x—factor in 2006. since then she's sold 35 million records. she now divides her time between london and la. and is soon off on a uk christmas tour. but when she's not here, there is one thing she always craves. i really miss a good roast dinner. you take that for granted when you're living here — it'sjust normal — but when you're away, that's what i really miss, yeah. 0k — noted! travel now. and this is how the tube is looking at the moment. there's no service on the overground between liverpool street and cheshunt/chingford due to a signal failure at walthamstow central. now on to the weather with kate. good morning. there are a few showers around first thing this morning — one or two of those could be quite heavy, but sunny spells developing as we head further through the day. now, you can see the progression of the showers overnight coming in from the northwest, so this morning they're likely to be to the west and the south of london, but we could get one or two isolated showers anywhere. ahead of them, clearing away south, dry this afternoon, plenty of sunshine, and temperatures reaching around 11 celsius — feeling cool in a northwesterly breeze. now, overnight, it's dry and it's clear. the wind light, too, so we could see one or two mist and fog patches develop — largely out towards the home counties — but a widespread frost as temperatures drop down to one celsius. for saturday, it is looking dry and clear. plenty of sunshine around after a cold, crisp start to the day. temperatures tomorrow, again around ten, 11 celsius — just a bit of patchy light cloud. then, as we head into sunday, bright start. another frost as temperatures in low single figures, but more cloud and then some patchy light rain through the middle part of the day. there's more on our website including the latest london tea craze. that's it for now, i'm back in around half an hour. good morning. welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today... a senior officer says keep politics out of policing, as calls for the home secretary to be sacked increase, after she accused the metropolitan police of bias. israel's prime minister says the country is not seeking to occupy or govern the gaza strip after its war with hamas ends. good morning. solving the growth problem. within the next few minutes we will find out how the economy fared between july and we will find out how the economy fared betweenjuly and september. i am at a jeans factory in cardigan to find out why those figures matter. the agony is over for luis diaz. he hears that his father has been freed by colombian kidnappers are reunited with his family just hours before he plays for liverpool in the europa league. medical history is made as surgeons complete the world's first entire eye transplant. a lot more sunshine around as we head into the start of the weekend. some overnight frost and fog. before we get there, this morning heavy downpours in some parts of wales and the south—west. all the details on that here on breakfast. it's friday, the 10th of november. one of the uk's most senior police officers says policing cannot be influenced by politics. it comes as the prime minister is under pressure to sack his home secretary, following comments she made in the times newspaper. in the article, which hadn't been cleared by the government — suella braverman accused the metropolitan police of "playing favourites" by treating pro—palestinian marches differently to demonstrations by right wing groups. our home affairs correspondent, june kelly has the latest. the war in the middle east has led to weekend pro—palestinian protests in london... ..and other cities around the uk. and tomorrow, once again, demonstrators are due to be on the march in the capital. they're scheduled to set off after the armistice day two minute silence. suella braverman has denounced these demonstrations as hate marches and, controversially, she's accused the police of showing favouritism to left wing groups. the met police commissioner sir mark rowley insists there are currently no grounds to ban tomorrow's march, and now he's being backed by another senior officer. the chair of the national police chiefs' council, gavin stephens, says... however, some politicians are adamant the march should be banned and there was this message to the met. i am begging them, and i use that word advisedly, begging them for the sake of all of those servicemen, ex—servicemen and the public, who hold this as a sacred day, think again. from one of his conservative colleagues, there was a different appeal. i would just say to every minister and every political leader, we've got tojust use our language carefully and we've got to make sure that we concentrate on dampening things down rather than fuelling that sort of hatred and that division. so this weekend, as the country remembers so many lives lost in wars past, it's the response to a current conflict which is causing division. june kelly, bbc news. our political correspondent hannah millerjoins us now from the cenotaph in central london. good morning good morning to good morning to you. good morning to you. it good morning to you. it is good morning to you. it is really good morning to you. it is really worth explaining the ministerial code and what ministers are and are not allowed to say and whose permission they need to get. absolutely. yes. this is the cenotaph itself, where there are due to be commemorations over the weekend. they had just turned up to start sorting out the planks for the next few days. it is beyond about being a row about whether or not the march should be allowed to happen over this weekend or not, it has now prompted huge angerjust behind those gates in downing street. their suggestion at the moment is they are still looking into exactly how this article came to be published without the corrections and changes that they had made. labour is calling for they had made. labour is calling for the prime minister to look into whether or not suella braverman has breached the ministerial code. that is a set of rules that ministers had to stand by while they remain in the cabinet. it says that all major announcements and media interviews should be cleared in advance by number 10. should be cleared in advance by number10. suella should be cleared in advance by number 10. suella braverman's team would say it is not a policy announcement, it is an opinion piece in a newspaper and she had run it by number 10 was that they would argue therefore she has not breached the ministerial code. the ultimate arbiter of whether or not she has is rishi sunak, the prime minister himself. it seems very much at the moment as to whether the interpretation of whether the rules had been breached depends on which side of the argument you are on. thank you. we need to bring you up—to—date with events in the middle east. charlie. israel's prime minister says the country's goal is not to conquer, occupy or govern the gaza strip after its war with hamas ends. hamas is designated a terrorist organisation by the uk. meanwhile, israel is implementing daily four—hour pauses to allow civilians to flee northern gaza. here's our middle east correspondent yolande knell with the latest. even as the war rages on in gaza, the debate is intensifying about what comes next if israel deposes hamas. israel's prime minister recently said his country would keep security control here indefinitely — but that idea was criticised by washington, and he's now shifting his position. we don't seek to govern gaza, we don't seek to occupy it, but we seek to give it and us a betterfuture in the entire middle east. fleeing israel's advances and in search of food and water, tens of thousands of palestinians have been heading south this week, at times when israel's army is allowing safe passage. the us says it's a step in the right direction. it's pushing for longer pauses — short of a full ceasefire — to get aid into gaza. in gaza city, israel says its forces are tightening their stranglehold. there have been fierce battles near two major hospitals — including al—shifa, which israel says is in the heart of the hamas military quarter. but with every day of fighting, fears grow of a humanitarian catastrophe. more than a month after the deadly cross—border attacks of hamas brought heavy israeli bombardment, civilians in gaza are paying a grave price. many thousands killed and wounded, and 1.5 million displaced. the suffering is immense. yolande knell, bbc news, jerusalem. we can speak to her now. in some ways we are talking about the two ends of the spectrum, things that are happening right now about pauses and the differences that can make and the differences that can make and then the bigger, longer term questions about the endgame. benjamin netanyahu addressing that to a degree. that benjamin netanyahu addressing that to a decree. . , benjamin netanyahu addressing that toadearee. . , ., benjamin netanyahu addressing that to a decree. . , ., ., to a degree. that is right. i had to sa some to a degree. that is right. i had to say some of— to a degree. that is right. i had to say some of the _ to a degree. that is right. i had to say some of the comments - to a degree. that is right. i had to say some of the comments he - to a degree. that is right. i had to i say some of the comments he made earlier this week when he was speaking to an american network and said he believed that israel would have to keep a presence inside gaza indefinitely to kind of maintain security control there and to make sure no threats can emanate from there, that really set off alarm bells in washington. we heard afterwards that us secretary of state laying out quite a different vision of how they see things, saying there would be no israeli occupation and what the us and was that in future you should have gaza the west bank underjoint governance and there should be a step on the path to palestinian statehood, which of course is the long—time international formula for peace here. now we have had the israeli prime minister himself coming out, changing his message somewhat and he has said he doesn't see an israeli occupation in the gaza strip, which is something some members of his hard—line government have been advocating for even saying there could be jewish advocating for even saying there could bejewish settlements built again in the future. mr netanyahu changing his position to be more in line with what israel's most important ally, the us, seems to think. ., ~ important ally, the us, seems to think. . ~ , ., , important ally, the us, seems to think. . ~ i. , . england's chief medical officer has warned that the uk faces a health crisis because of a rapidly ageing population. in his yearly report, professor chris whitty says while more people are living longer, many of their later years are spent in bad health. there's also concern that large numbers of elderly people will be concentrated in rural or coastal areas with poor nhs provision. a production company owned by the actor, robert de niro, has been ordered to pay a former employee more than $1 million over claims of gender discrimination and retaliation. it ends a year—long legal battle after graham chase robinson alleged she was abused, demeaned and underpaid. jurors did not find the actor personally liable. vehicle breakdowns caused by potholes have reached a record high due to the "substandard state" of local roads. the rac said it received almost 6,000 call—outs due to poor road surfaces in the uk, betweenjuly and september. the government says an extra £8 billion has been allocated to help fix the problem. in a major scientific achievement, surgeons in new york have performed the world's first eye transplant. aaronjames underwent 21 hours of surgery, in an operation that replaced half of his face after a work—related accident. our reporter sean dilley has the story. this is a medicalfirst. aaronjames is the first human recipient of a whole transplanted eye. they told me, they said, "honestly, we never expected it to make it to the transplant, you know?" i mean, never expected it to work at all. and they told me that from the get go. but just the fact that it's allowed... i mean, you know, that's... that's the first step. surgeons here in new york spent 21 hours removing part of their donor's face and left eye, including the optic nerve, then skillfully grafting them on to their patient. this is a day that could so easily have never come for aaron james. the 46—year—old electrical worker from arkansas suffered life—changing injuries injune 2021 after his face contacted a 7,200 volt live wire. the accident cost him his left arm, nose, lips, front teeth and left eye, as well as his chin and part of his cheek. do you have any pain at all? no. it's been six months since the experimental surgery. so far, the transplanted eye sees nothing, but surgeons are positive about what this means for the future. well, i'm pretty impressed with what we're seeing this early on. at this point, the mere fact that the eye is alive and looks healthy is pretty special. for aaronjames, the cosmetic benefits are plain for others to see, even if his new left eye can't. but doctors say the first whole human eye transplant offers real hope that what they've learned here could one day restore sight to those who cannot see. sean dilley, bbc news. it is so interesting. straightaway you think, if the eye doesn't work, why did the operation? the eye is alive and healthy, so it is a stepping stone for what might happen in the future. absolutely brilliant. good luck to him. music legend sting has officially accepted the freedom of his home borough of north tyneside, 13 years after it was offered to him. it has taken him a while. the singer and bass player was awarded the honour in 2010, but his touring schedule delayed him receiving it. sting said growing up in the area, was central to his career success. everything i've achieved in life was dreamt up in north tyneside. so in a way, it's coming full circle and having the borough acknowledge that is a kind of fantasy in itself. i'm not sure whether i dreamt it up, whether i fantasised that one or not, but it is a fantasy. a great day for him in the end, as is the sunshine. i think the good thing is worth waiting for after all of this rain. abs, thing is worth waiting for after all of this rain-— of this rain. a brief window but a window nonetheless. _ of this rain. a brief window but a window nonetheless. let's - of this rain. a brief window but a window nonetheless. let's take l of this rain. a brief window but a | window nonetheless. let's take a look. there will be some sunshine around today. still the chance of some heavy downpours. you will be noticing them in the south—west and the strong winds. where it is dry and sunny it is particularly chilly. let's take a look at some of the lowest temperatures from each of the four nations. in scotland we saw temperatures down below —6 in the highlands, leading to the cold this morning we had since the end of april. three degrees in north wales. further south the green colours on the map showed things are more mild. 10 degrees in parts of south—west england and wales. here we have the heavy showers. lengthy downpours of rain and rumbles of thunder as well. winds gusting to 40 miles per hour. the odd isolated showers across the north—east of england, far north of northern ireland and the north of scotland. in between there's areas, a dry, bright and sunny start for many. if you mist and fog patches around and they will be slow to clear in one or two valleys. what you will find with a day, we start with heavy rain in parts of wales and the south—west, they will be confined to showers. rain confined to the south—east corner and most will finish the day dry. in the far north of scotland more rain will spread and later. showers, a bit more breezy tonight across the north of scotland. not as cold here. elsewhere temperatures will drop further than last night. southern scotland, the north—east of england, there will be a more widespread frost as we go into the start of saturday. armistice day, after that, a frosty and start of should be a cracker of a day put up more mist and fog to start on sunday before more rain arrives from the south—west. more rain arrives from the south-west— more rain arrives from the south-west. , ., , ., , south-west. he promised a brief window. that _ south-west. he promised a brief window. that was _ south-west. he promised a brief window. that was it. _ south-west. he promised a brief window. that was it. thank - south-west. he promised a brief window. that was it. thank you i south-west. he promised a brief l window. that was it. thank you for that. in the last couple of minutes, the latest gdp figures have been released, giving us an indication of how the uk economy is faring. this figure is quite important when it comes to the government's pledged to grow the economy. peter ruddick is at a factory in cardigan for us this morning with the details. good morning. good morning. how you doin: ? good morning. good morning. how you doing? very — good morning. good morning. how you doing? very well- _ good morning. good morning. how you doing? very well. you? _ good morning. good morning. how you doing? very well. you? yes, _ good morning. good morning. how you doing? very well. you? yes, very - doing? very well. you? yes, very well. doing? very well. you? yes, very well- the — doing? very well. you? yes, very well. the prime _ doing? very well. you? yes, very well. the prime minister's - doing? very well. you? yes, veryl well. the prime minister's pledged to grow the economy, these figures will not make for good reading. between july will not make for good reading. betweenjuly and september will not make for good reading. between july and september there was zero growth. the economy was totally flat. slightly better than some economists had been forecasting. they thought perhaps the economy had been shrinking a little. not much cause for celebration. we know real estate by buying and selling of housing suffered. manufacturing and construction did hold up slightly. as well as their smattering politically, also really important when real—world impact. when the economy grows, that means businesses can expand, invest and create jobs. when economy shrinks when that means businesses and households, livelihoods are at risk. they know all about that here. in 2002, this factory closed was up 10% of local jobs were lost overnight. a few years later, this company was born, we employ people who lost their jobs. let's chat to claire, the boss. are you all right? you had me talking about those figures, totally flat. why does what's going on in the wider economy matter to you here? , ., the wider economy matter to you here? , . ., , ., ., here? times are really tough at the moment. here? times are really tough at the moment- we _ here? times are really tough at the moment. we have _ here? times are really tough at the moment. we have had _ here? times are really tough at the moment. we have had one - here? times are really tough at the moment. we have had one of - here? times are really tough at the moment. we have had one of our l moment. we have had one of our toughest — moment. we have had one of our toughest years yet. people need to see some _ toughest years yet. people need to see some good news. they feel like consumers — see some good news. they feel like consumers have lost confidence. we make _ consumers have lost confidence. we make a _ consumers have lost confidence. we make a luxury high end product. you know, _ make a luxury high end product. you know. we _ make a luxury high end product. you know, we need people to put their hands _ know, we need people to put their hands in _ know, we need people to put their hands in their pockets to buy them. if hands in their pockets to buy them. if interest _ hands in their pockets to buy them. if interest rates are rising in the economy— if interest rates are rising in the economy is— if interest rates are rising in the economy is suffering, if there is a recession. — economy is suffering, if there is a recession, people do not have the confidence — recession, people do not have the confidence to spend. we need some .ood confidence to spend. we need some good news, — confidence to spend. we need some good news, ithink. we confidence to spend. we need some good news, i think.— good news, i think. we know costs are risin: good news, i think. we know costs are rising for _ good news, i think. we know costs are rising for us _ good news, i think. we know costs are rising for us all, _ good news, i think. we know costs are rising for us all, households i are rising for us all, households and businesses. how difficult has that been for you to manage? same hotel. last year, energy prices went up hotel. last year, energy prices went up significantly. transportation costs have gone up, material costs have gone up, rents have gone up. it is slightly easier now and we're balancing — is slightly easier now and we're balancing the books a bit better but it has _ balancing the books a bit better but it has been— balancing the books a bit better but it has been a really tough ride for us. ~ ., it has been a really tough ride for us, ~ ., ., , ., us. what goes on in the wider economy _ us. what goes on in the wider economy will _ us. what goes on in the wider economy will matter. - us. what goes on in the wider economy will matter. thank. us. what goes on in the wider. economy will matter. thank you us. what goes on in the wider- economy will matter. thank you so much forjoining us. we can actually see some pictures of the old factory backin see some pictures of the old factory back in its heyday, its height. 30,000 pairs ofjeans a week were made here then. one person who will remember that is cloudier, he is in charge of cutting the denim when it comes in. first started in 1968. i think your title is grand master, officially the best title of anyone! talk to me about when the factory closed. did you ever think you will be back here making jeans? ida. i be back here making 'eans? no, i didn't. be back here making 'eans? no, i dun-t. we — be back here making 'eans? no, i didn't. we were _ be back here making jeans? no, i didn't. we were devastated - be back here makingjeans? no, i didn't. we were devastated when it closed, _ didn't. we were devastated when it closed, not — didn't. we were devastated when it closed, notjust people working here but the _ closed, notjust people working here but the town itself. i never thought i but the town itself. i never thought i would _ but the town itself. i never thought i would see — but the town itself. i never thought i would see jeans coming back here. you are _ i would see jeans coming back here. you are a _ i would see jeans coming back here. you are a grand master because as well as doing the cutting, you are essentially passing on your skills to the next generation, including best apprentice here. yes. to the next generation, including best apprentice here.— to the next generation, including best apprentice here. yes, tom, my son. i am best apprentice here. yes, tom, my son- i am passing — best apprentice here. yes, tom, my son. i am passing on _ best apprentice here. yes, tom, my son. i am passing on the _ best apprentice here. yes, tom, my| son. i am passing on the knowledge. for me. _ son. i am passing on the knowledge. for me. that— son. i am passing on the knowledge. for me, that is brilliant. i enjoy passing — for me, that is brilliant. i enjoy passing on _ for me, that is brilliant. i enjoy passing on that knowledge and hopefully it will continue going forward — hopefully it will continue going forward. we hopefully it will continue going forward. ~ ., ., ~ hopefully it will continue going forward. ~ . ., ~ ., forward. we are talking about the economy and _ forward. we are talking about the economy and things _ forward. we are talking about the economy and things are _ forward. we are talking about the economy and things are really - forward. we are talking about the - economy and things are really tough. any concern for you at all about the future? sign up it is always a concern. hopefully things will change and there will be a feature in cardiganfor change and there will be a feature in cardigan for making genes again. these are quite a high—end pair. can you spot a cheap pair? ih these are quite a high—end pair. can you spot a cheap pair? in a these are quite a high-end pair. can you spot a cheap pair?— you spot a cheap pair? in a men's department _ you spot a cheap pair? in a men's department store, _ you spot a cheap pair? in a men's department store, the _ you spot a cheap pair? in a men's department store, the first - you spot a cheap pair? in a men's department store, the first thing | you spot a cheap pair? in a men's| department store, the first thing i look for— department store, the first thing i look for is — department store, the first thing i look for is men'sjeans. | department store, the first thing i look for is men'sjeans. i will department store, the first thing i look for is men'sjeans.— look for is men's 'eans. i will not ask ou look for is men's 'eans. i will not ask you what — look for is men's jeans. i will not ask you what you _ look for is men's jeans. i will not ask you what you think _ look for is men's jeans. i will not ask you what you think of - look for is men's jeans. i will not ask you what you think of my - look for is men's jeans. i will not l ask you what you think of my jeans ask you what you think of myjeans this morning because i probably know the answer. the flat growth 0.1% were 0.2% when those figures matter, not just for the were 0.2% when those figures matter, notjust for the prime minister in downing street but for the future of businesses just like this up and down the country. claire was saying she thinks there might be some green shoots. the problem is the bank of england thinks only half of the impact of high interest rates had passed down to people in the wider economy. there is a chance that things could get worse before they get better. flat growth, as a reminder betweenjuly get better. flat growth, as a reminder between july and get better. flat growth, as a reminder betweenjuly and september, 0% for gdp growth was that the bank of england says, in the next year, there is a 50% chance of recession, a real worry, notjust politically. you learn a lot about the economy by coming to businesses like this. if you want to keep yourjeans looking fresh, the secret is to not wash them for the first six months. how do you feel about that? i them for the first six months. how do you feel about that?— do you feel about that? i feel fine about it if you _ do you feel about that? i feel fine about it if you do _ do you feel about that? i feel fine about it if you do not _ do you feel about that? i feel fine about it if you do not wear - do you feel about that? i feel fine about it if you do not wear them i about it if you do not wear them everyday — about it if you do not wear them everyday for six months. that would be weird _ everyday for six months. that would be weird. then i think they would actually— be weird. then i think they would actually get up and walk to the washing — actually get up and walk to the washing machine themselves. you are on board for— washing machine themselves. you are on board for not _ washing machine themselves. you are on board for not washing _ washing machine themselves. you are on board for not washing those - washing machine themselves. you are on board for not washing those full- on board for not washing those full six months, dan. ithink on board for not washing those full six months, dan. i think i might not sit next to you on the sofa again. you will not be invited to sit next to me _ you will not be invited to sit next to me on — you will not be invited to sit next to me on the sofa again. it is treat, to me on the sofa again. it is great. isn't _ to me on the sofa again. it is great. isn't it _ to me on the sofa again. it is great, isn't it exclamation i to me on the sofa again. it 3 great, isn't it exclamation that you were fascinated by the size of the scissors. ahead of armistice day this weekend, the oldest surviving veteran of the 1940 dunkirk rescue, has been sharing his memories of serving in the british army. 105—year—old john hamilton was an anti—aircraft gunner and has been speaking to our reporter, lee madan. explosion. it's remembering what this country went through to survive. last post plays. and if it hadn't been for dunkirk, i think the war would have been over. those 338,000 would have been taken by the germans. because, you know, sitting on that beach for three days, wondering when the hell you were to get off it, and all the time there's bloody bombers coming down. and you'd been training then for quite a few years to do this. what was it like actually doing it for real? did you suffer fear, john? i suppose, at the time, yes. but on the other hand, you had to say, "well, here we are, we're a group, we're together." i was actually in the gunning seat... right. ..looking through a telescope, to shoot down at least two planes. because we were the only...the only anti—aircraft unit on the beach. i think those who hadn't fought in a war look up at us and say, "my goodness, i might not be here if it hadn't been for you." it's very true. yes. and what does that feel like? it gives you a feeling of pleasure, of...you've set an example. what's your secret? all my life, i have been active. there are the exercise dumbbells down there that i use every morning. brilliant. 15 minutes on the ground. then i have a walk — i walk a mile in the afternoon. do more than me. yeah! yeah. and what's it like, all these years later, to be the last man standing, aged 105 — what's that like? ha! well, it's. .. it's... it's strange to me, in a way, that i should be the oldest surviving rescuer out of 338,000 men! that veteran, john hamilton, 105 years old. that was veteranjohn hamilton speaking to our reporter lee madan. he would put many of us to shame. number one, it was about his story and what he tells and what he witnessed first hand. such an honour to be able to speak to people first—hand who lived through that experience. 105 years old and looking amazing. thank you so much. coming up later in the programme... from much loved family pets to life—saving companions, we're a nation of dog lovers. the broadcaster clare balding has been exploring our canine friends for her new book, and she'll be here to tell us all about it, at ten to eight this morning. and about this specific photo that we shall bring up with her when she sits with us on the sofa. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm alison earle. police investigating the disappearance of a man in south london nearly four weeks ago have found a body in the boot of a car. justin henry was last seen on the 15th of october at a fast—food restaurant in croydon. two men have been charged with his murder. 72 billion litres of sewage has been pumped into the river thames since 2020, according to figures from the liberal democrats. the worst—affected site was mogden near twickenham, where over 17 billion litres was released. thames water said it's started a £100 million upgrade of the mogden sewage treatment works, which will reduce the number of storm discharges from the site. counting begins this morning to see who'll be the new mayor of hackney. the vote was held following the resignation of the former labour mayor. he stood down over his association with a former councillor found guilty of possessing indecent images of children. the result is expected around lunchtime. vehicle breakdowns caused by potholes are said to have reached a record high due to the "substandard state" of local roads. that's the verdict of motoring group the rac, which said it's received nearly 6,000 call—outs due to poor road surfaces between july and september — that's a 46% increase from the same period last year. hard to believe but this was 17 years ago... # a moment like this... leona lewis became a global star after winning the x—factor in 2006. since then she's sold 35 million records. she now divides her time between london and la, and is soon off on a uk christmas tour. but when she's not here, there is one thing she always craves. i really miss a good roast dinner. you take that for granted when you're living here — it's just normal — but when you're away, that's what i really miss, yeah. 0k — noted! travel now, and this is how the tube is looking at the moment. there's no service on the overground between liverpool street and cheshunt/ chingford due to a signal failure at walthamstow central. now onto the weather with kate. good morning. there are a few showers around first thing this morning — one or two of those could be quite heavy, but sunny spells developing as we head further through the day. now, you can see the progression of the showers overnight coming in from the northwest, so this morning they're likely to be to the west and the south of london, but we could get one or two isolated showers anywhere. ahead of them, clearing away south, dry this afternoon, plenty of sunshine, and temperatures reaching around 11 celsius — feeling cool in a northwesterly breeze. now, overnight, it's dry and it's clear. the wind light, too, so we could see one or two mist and fog patches develop — largely out towards the home counties — but a widespread frost as temperatures drop down to one celsius. for saturday, it is looking dry and clear. plenty of sunshine around after a cold, crisp start to the day. temperatures tomorrow, again around ten, 11 celsius — just a bit of patchy light cloud. then, as we head into sunday, bright start. another frost as temperatures in low single figures, but more cloud and then some patchy light rain through the middle part of the day. there's more on our website — including the latest london tea crazew. that's it for now — i'm back in around half an hour. the latest london tea craze. that's it for now — i'm back in around half an hour. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. half of uk police forces have no comprehensive system in place to screen and support gambling addicts if they're arrested — the bbc has learned. charities are calling for more to be done to support problem gamblers in custody — which is standard practice for those struggling with drug or alcohol addiction. our north of england reporter rowan bridge has more. the overpowering feeling of every week that i had to have that bet, and it had to be at a certain level of money — it was out of control. i then started to steal money from the company that i'd worked forfor20...20 years, nearly 21 years, i think, by the time i left. and it started off with me stealing a few hundred pounds, and it ended up with me stealing in excess of £1 million that i stole. andy was sentenced to four years for fraud. he's now out on licence, but he's not looking for sympathy for his addiction, nor leniency for his crime. stakes of £10 went to 20, to 50, to 100, and then they had to become in the thousands. you stole a massive amount of money that has a massive impact on the company, employees — ramifications well beyond just you. do you understand why people feel you ought to go to prison? 100%. there's no... there's never been any question in my mind that i shouldn't have gone to prison. i had to go to prison. and i needed to. and... there's only one person to blame for what happened in my life, and that's me. i lost relationships. i lost, at points, family members that didn't want to talk to me. i saw it in my mum every single day — you know, stress, crying every single day. and i don't know what to do. you know, i don't know how to fix it. but my fix was, "let me go back to gambling and we make up this money again, give it back to her, and i'll be done with it." naman stole £100,000 from those nearest to him. i loved gambling. it gave me everything i wanted. you know, it was loyal to me. you name it — everything. this is my prison diary, which i never thought i would ever have in my life. he served just over two and a half years for defrauding friends and family, but he says he's got no help from the criminal justice system. er, nothing. one of the detectives, he said he has a family member who's gone through the same thing. and, at this point, i'm thinking, you know, he's going to understand my situation, hopefully there'll be more support, hopefully i might not even go to prison — they might give me a suspended or community service or whatever. you know, ijust went in prison, thought, "right, ijust have to help myself." naman wants gamblers to be offered the same support as those with alcohol and drugs issues. how police treat people with gambling problems is a postcode lottery. custody staff would book the detainee in... cheshire police is one of only eight forces offering gamblers comprehensive support. when people are arrested, it shouldn't be an everyday thing that happens to somebody. it can be quite a tipping point in their lives — it's an opportunity for intervention, it's an opportunity for help and support. yourjob is not to be a social worker. yourjob is to make sure these criminals are off the streets. yeah, and absolutely, we take a robust approach to dealing with criminality, but also give people that much—needed support. people do have those vulnerabilities — it's really important for us as the police service to try and understand those root causes, not only to provide them with support, but to prevent re—offending and things like that, as well. both the police and the ministry ofjustice — which oversees prisons — accept there's more to be done. a couple of quid on the centre—half — i love a bet builder. _ the national police chiefs' council, which represents chief constables in england and wales, highlighted training schemes available to front—line officers. and the moj says it already provides a range of support for those with gambling problems injail, and is developing a programme to better identify people with a gambling addiction. andy may says such steps are essential. gambling can lead to a huge level of crime. i think that it should be treated on a level playing field in terms of other addictions. improvements to the system will come too late for naman and andy, but both say their greatest wish is that others don't face what they have, and that the issue's given the attention they think it deserves. rowan bridge, bbc news. we're nowjoined by matt gaskell, head of the nhs northern gambling service. we were just talking as we were seeing just how quickly, i think, things can spiral down, that the problem with gambling is that you cannot see it, it is not tangible, you cannot see someone and say, oh, they are struggling with gambling addiction where they gambler. and thatis addiction where they gambler. and that is what makes it so difficult to treat and see, particularly in custody. it to treat and see, particularly in custod . , , , ., ., custody. it is. this is one of the difficulties _ custody. it is. this is one of the difficulties with _ custody. it is. this is one of the difficulties with gambling, - custody. it is. this is one of the difficulties with gambling, it. difficulties with gambling, it usually is when everything has collapsed around the person that it becomes obvious. sometimes people can hide the gambling and the money even from their closest loved ones. what we need to do is change the system so there is much more early identification and earlier intervention, just as we have with other health behaviours like smoking, alcohol and so on. for example. _ smoking, alcohol and so on. for example. if— smoking, alcohol and so on. for example. if you _ smoking, alcohol and so on. for example, if you were to train someone to spot this, when you can't see it, what... give me a key clue or indicated that they would be trained to spot. i or indicated that they would be trained to spot.— trained to spot. i think it is difficult- — trained to spot. i think it is difficult. |_ trained to spot. i think it is difficult. i mean, _ trained to spot. i think it is difficult. i mean, you - trained to spot. i think it is difficult. i mean, you look| trained to spot. i think it is i difficult. i mean, you look for things like changes in mood, people being preoccupied with finances, asking for money when perhaps otherwise they wouldn't have done. but there isn't something that would just define this as gambling addiction, which is why it is quite difficult for the likes of the police or gps. it is about curiosity and maybe putting a few different things together. really, that we need legislation to work here, really, because every transaction is spotted by the gambling industry because everything is a digital now and online. the banks can see every transaction. so actually, where the data is, is there, and wejust transaction. so actually, where the data is, is there, and we just need to find a way to bring that to life and do the relevant checks so that people can perhaps be stopped in their tracks a little earlier before it gets to the kind of cases you have just seen. i it gets to the kind of cases you have just seen.— it gets to the kind of cases you have just seen. have 'ust seen. i am thinking of a visit have just seen. i am thinking of a visit police _ have just seen. i am thinking of a visit police station, _ have just seen. i am thinking of a visit police station, someone - have just seen. i am thinking of a i visit police station, someone having a crisis —— and a cup visit police station. i am trying to think how difficult it would be in that scenario, on a busy saturday night, everything else going on, can you envisage how the police could be helped to help people, where the cause might be something, as we have established, very hard to see. how can that working practice with time factors, the noise and the chaos of a busy night doing thejob? that factors, the noise and the chaos of a busy night doing the job?- a busy night doing the 'ob? that is a busy night doing the 'ob? that is a aood a busy night doing the 'ob? that is a good question. h a busy night doing the 'ob? that is a good question. it _ a busy night doing the 'ob? that is a good question. it is _ a busy night doing the job? that is a good question. it is a _ a busy night doing the job? that is a good question. it is a challenge. | a good question. it is a challenge. one of the things they could do is scream for gambling, like they might ask about alcohol or drugs. —— screen for gambling. so ask about alcohol or drugs. -- screen for gambling.— ask about alcohol or drugs. -- screen for gambling. so when they are asking questions... _ screen for gambling. so when they are asking questions... different i are asking questions... different needs are _ are asking questions... different needs are usually _ are asking questions... different needs are usually asked - are asking questions... different needs are usually asked about i are asking questions... different - needs are usually asked about when people are in custody or arrested. that could happen. i think when people are —— police attend incidents, they could have a bit more training to have this in mind. owing to an incident, it might be someone in real distress, for example, there may be gambling underneath it. if there is no food in the house and you see things look a bit odd, it could be gambling that is underneath it. the a bit odd, it could be gambling that is underneath it.— is underneath it. the two case studies we — is underneath it. the two case studies we had _ is underneath it. the two case studies we had in _ is underneath it. the two case studies we had in our - is underneath it. the two case studies we had in our report i is underneath it. the two case i studies we had in our report both happened to be men. i don't know what people's perception is of problem gamblers. i suspect it may be that they are mostly men. but you were saying a moment ago there is a sharp increase in the number of women who you are seeing who have problems. women who you are seeing who have roblems. , ~ women who you are seeing who have roblems. , ,, ., ., ., problems. yes, i think a lot of --eole problems. yes, i think a lot of people are _ problems. yes, i think a lot of people are beginning - problems. yes, i think a lot of people are beginning to - problems. yes, i think a lot of people are beginning to see i problems. yes, i think a lot of i people are beginning to see that there is likely to be an equivalent prevalence of women, and in the future the way things are going. you have probably observed a change in advertising and marketing specifically targeting women. find advertising and marketing specifically targeting women. and it is online. specifically targeting women. and it is online- it — specifically targeting women. and it is online. it is _ specifically targeting women. and it is online. it is online _ specifically targeting women. and it is online. it is online so _ specifically targeting women. and it is online. it is online so we - specifically targeting women. and it is online. it is online so we are - is online. it is online so we are preoccupied — is online. it is online so we are preoccupied by _ is online. it is online so we are preoccupied by our _ is online. it is online so we are preoccupied by our phones. i is online. it is online so we are preoccupied by our phones. soj is online. it is online so we are l preoccupied by our phones. so it is online. it is online so we are - preoccupied by our phones. so it is appealing to different demographics, different age groups, different agendas, etc now and it has become normalised and embedded across our culture —— different genders. the covenant is stepping in, there has been a white paper produced, there is consultation on some of those measures. whether they will go far enough, we wait to see, but the regulator and government are paying much closer attention. i do regulator and government are paying much closer attention.— much closer attention. i do wonder, when ou much closer attention. i do wonder, when you hear— much closer attention. i do wonder, when you hear and _ much closer attention. i do wonder, when you hear and see _ much closer attention. i do wonder, when you hear and see adverts - much closer attention. i do wonder, when you hear and see adverts for i when you hear and see adverts for gambling, your height must sink. it does, i'm afraid. —— your heart must sink. we have had the conversation with mental health, we need the same with mental health, we need the same with addiction. we seem to lack the same compassion. addiction is a mental health disorder and we need to get beyond this idea that it is about the individual or there is some dysfunction that must reside within the individual. actually, we have a very powerful commercial environment here that is acting upon us and influencing our behaviour. we have a smartphone and synergy of very addictive looks and profiling and marketing to people and it has a real impact. and marketing to people and it has a real impact-— real impact. very interesting talkinr real impact. very interesting talking to — real impact. very interesting talking to you _ real impact. very interesting talking to you this _ real impact. very interesting talking to you this morning. | real impact. very interesting - talking to you this morning. that is a matt gaskell, head of the nhs northern gambling service, speaking to us. thank you very much. mike has the latest sport and your story today, of course it is a sport but more human story. in story today, of course it is a sport but more human story.— story today, of course it is a sport but more human story. in the grand scheme of things, _ but more human story. in the grand scheme of things, the _ but more human story. in the grand scheme of things, the football- scheme of things, the football doesn't really matter. the worry and angst is finally over for liverpool star luis dias. he was told that his father had been released by kidnappers just a couple of hours before liverpool and diaz kicked off their europa league match in toulouse in france. thousands of miles away, manny diaz was given a hero's welcome as he arrived home, weak but in good spirits, having been held captive for 13 days. the columbian police and military had focused their search in dense forests near the border with venezuela. his kidnappers — the national liberation army — had said they'd taken luis diaz's parents at gunpoint by mistake. his mother was released that night, and finally yesterday the kidnappers handed his father over to members of the united nations and catholic church. he was returned home and reunited with his family in emotional scenes — they'd waited for this moment for nearly two weeks. after hearing the joyful news, diaz started in the match at toulouse, and was said to be beaming by his manager. liverpool lost the game. diogojota pulled it back to 3—2 in the 89th minute to give them hope, and they thought they'd equalised seven minutes into added time throutharell quansah, but there was yet another controversial var decision — the goal ruled out for handball, way back in the build—up. elsewhere in the europa league, it was another historic night for brighton as they celebrated their first away european victory, and it came in amsterdam as they beat ajax 2—0. they completed back—to—back victories against the dutch giants, who are four—times european champions. ansu fati had scored the first before setting up simon adingra to double their lead. and so brighton in theirfirst european campaign are now second in their group and well placed to reach the knock—out stages. a goal by lucas paqueta put west ham top of their group as they beat olympiacos 1—0. two points from their final two games will be enough to ensure european action after christmas for the third season in a row. rangers are also in good shape to make the knock—out stage after a 2—1win over sparta prague, todd cantwell scoring what turned out to be the winner. rangers are second in their group. in the europa conference 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balding, has written - dogs, clare balding, has written about how important they are to our society. you are also a dog lover, matt? i society. you are also a dog lover, matt? ., , �* society. you are also a dog lover, matt? . , �* , , . ., matt? i wasn't, but my children have ersuaded matt? i wasn't, but my children have persuaded me _ matt? i wasn't, but my children have persuaded me and _ matt? i wasn't, but my children have persuaded me and changed - matt? i wasn't, but my children have i persuaded me and changed everything. you can't _ persuaded me and changed everything. you can't have a dog and not love a dog. i'm not sure it is good dog walking weather unless you have a towel ready at hand to clean up mucky pause. the towel ready at hand to clean up mucky pause-— towel ready at hand to clean up mucky pause. the towels are well used. mucky pause. the towels are well used- they _ mucky pause. the towels are well used. they love _ mucky pause. the towels are well used. they love mud. _ mucky pause. the towels are well used. they love mud. they- mucky pause. the towels are well | used. they love mud. they don't| mucky pause. the towels are well. | used. they love mud. they don't -- mucky pause. the towels are well- | used. they love mud. they don't -- i used. they love mud. they don't —— i don't, _ used. they love mud. they don't —— i don't. and _ used. they love mud. they don't —— i don't. and the — used. they love mud. they don't —— i don't, and the house doesn't. the ground _ don't, and the house doesn't. the ground is— don't, and the house doesn't. the ground is so— don't, and the house doesn't. the ground is so wet. we are concerned about flooding across _ we are concerned about flooding across the uk. good morning. let's look at _ across the uk. good morning. let's look at this— across the uk. good morning. let's look at this chart. it effectively shows — look at this chart. it effectively shows how wet the ground is relative to normat _ shows how wet the ground is relative to normal. these yellow areas to the west of— to normal. these yellow areas to the west of scotland are drier than normat — west of scotland are drier than normat i— west of scotland are drier than normal. i want to pick out the darker— normal. i want to pick out the darker areas, where the ground is particularly — darker areas, where the ground is particularly wet stop any further rain is _ particularly wet stop any further rain is the — particularly wet stop any further rain is the tipping point between flooding — rain is the tipping point between flooding and not and so with more rain in _ flooding and not and so with more rain in the — flooding and not and so with more rain in the forecast into next week, that is— rain in the forecast into next week, that is why— rain in the forecast into next week, that is why we are always concerned we could _ that is why we are always concerned we could see further flooding over the coming days and indeed coming weeks _ the coming days and indeed coming weeks as— the coming days and indeed coming weeks. as we are into this weekend weeks. as we are into this weekend we will— weeks. as we are into this weekend we will see — weeks. as we are into this weekend we will see the fact that rain will eventually arrive. this is the cloud that will— eventually arrive. this is the cloud that will come in on sunday but for now let's _ that will come in on sunday but for now let's enjoy this quiet winter of whether— now let's enjoy this quiet winter of whether behind the cloud we have i’i l ht whether behind the cloud we have right now. — whether behind the cloud we have right now, producing heavy rain across— right now, producing heavy rain across wales, south—west england so far. across wales, south—west england so far flashes— across wales, south—west england so far. flashes of lightning and rumbles _ far. flashes of lightning and rumbles of thunder and gale force winds— rumbles of thunder and gale force winds in— rumbles of thunder and gale force winds in and around the southern and western— winds in and around the southern and western approaches. all that will work— western approaches. all that will work its — western approaches. all that will work its way into northern france through— work its way into northern france through the day. limited effect on the south — through the day. limited effect on the south east corner, still a few downpours. away from that, very few showers. _ downpours. away from that, very few showers, many dry, a few showers around _ showers, many dry, a few showers around the — showers, many dry, a few showers around the northern and eastern coast, _ around the northern and eastern coast, certainly know this, and later— coast, certainly know this, and later and — coast, certainly know this, and later and if— coast, certainly know this, and later and if you into northern iretand _ later and if you into northern ireland. still one or two later in the day— ireland. still one or two later in the day and western parts of wales. most of— the day and western parts of wales. most of you finished the day with dry conditions, temperatures cool but not _ dry conditions, temperatures cool but not far— dry conditions, temperatures cool but not far from where we should be at this— but not far from where we should be at this stage in november. work out an extra _ at this stage in november. work out an extra scotland, last night temperatures down to —6. further showers _ temperatures down to —6. further showers and a breeze means it won't be as— showers and a breeze means it won't be as cold _ showers and a breeze means it won't be as cold but with clear skies this is where _ be as cold but with clear skies this is where we — be as cold but with clear skies this is where we are most likely to see a frost as _ is where we are most likely to see a frost as we — is where we are most likely to see a frost as we go into saturday. with winds _ frost as we go into saturday. with winds lighter, we will see fog patches _ winds lighter, we will see fog patches. for most, a bright start to armistice _ patches. for most, a bright start to armistice day and it will remain dry and sunny— armistice day and it will remain dry and sunny throughout. one or two showers _ and sunny throughout. one or two showers in — and sunny throughout. one or two showers in the west to begin with, most _ showers in the west to begin with, most will— showers in the west to begin with, most will fade. a few isolated showers — most will fade. a few isolated showers in the north and east of scotland. — showers in the north and east of scotland, very close to the coast of north-east — scotland, very close to the coast of north—east england, but for most fine, _ north—east england, but for most fine, dry. — north—east england, but for most fine, dry, sunny day. temperatures similar— fine, dry, sunny day. temperatures similarto— fine, dry, sunny day. temperatures similar to today. later on, we see the cloud — similar to today. later on, we see the cloud approach to the south—west of the _ the cloud approach to the south—west of the channel islands, that is the area of— of the channel islands, that is the area of cloud i showed you on the satellite — area of cloud i showed you on the satellite imagery. it will bring rain through saturday evening and into saturday night. slow progress, some _ into saturday night. slow progress, some of— into saturday night. slow progress, some of the rain will be heavy initially— some of the rain will be heavy initially with blustery conditions. but notice the north and east into sunday— but notice the north and east into sunday morning, the rain fronts clear— sunday morning, the rain fronts clear but— sunday morning, the rain fronts clear but with more moisture around we will— clear but with more moisture around we will see _ clear but with more moisture around we will see dense patches of fog for remembrance sunday. it will be cold, still the _ remembrance sunday. it will be cold, still the chance of a frost across northern — still the chance of a frost across northern and eastern areas and where we have _ northern and eastern areas and where we have the _ northern and eastern areas and where we have the fog it could take a white — we have the fog it could take a white to — we have the fog it could take a while to shift. eventually through the day— while to shift. eventually through the day we will see outbreaks of rain from — the day we will see outbreaks of rain from the south—west of wales spreading — rain from the south—west of wales spreading northwards and eastwards, turning _ spreading northwards and eastwards, turning lighter and patchy as it goes — turning lighter and patchy as it goes. much of north east england will stay— goes. much of north east england will stay dry, some fog, and where it lingers _ will stay dry, some fog, and where it lingers it— will stay dry, some fog, and where it lingers it will remain chilly. milder— it lingers it will remain chilly. mitder to— it lingers it will remain chilly. milder to the south—west but we are in the _ milder to the south—west but we are in the north— milder to the south—west but we are in the north atlantic air and as i said _ in the north atlantic air and as i said it _ in the north atlantic air and as i said it will— in the north atlantic air and as i said it will be more rain next week. thank— said it will be more rain next week. thank you — said it will be more rain next week. thank you. we will see you later. in august, the most deadly wildfire in modern us history tore through the town of lahaina, on the hawaiian island of maui. its cause is still under investigation. 99 people were killed and thousands were displaced — with residents describing chaos during the evacuation. our reporterjames clayton has been investigating why it was so hard to escape from the town. lahaina was the gem of maui in hawaii. it's been near totally destroyed. it's unfathomable, the reality of lahaina burning. oh, my god. they crossed. she was one of many residents who tried to escape from lahaina that day. she managed to get some of her neighbours into her car, but when they set off, the traffic was gridlocked. and i'm thinking to myself, "my god, we're not moving fast enough, we've got to get out of here, there's people back there." you know? and just... how many cars behind you? hundreds. many people had to abandon their cars and enter the sea to survive. both sides to the left and the right are on fire. the bbc has obtained police bodycam footage that shows that even officers were exasperated with the traffic jams. why are the cars not moving? there's stopped traffic on both sides of the highway. but why was the traffic so bad? we already knew that an emergency siren had not been activated, but a bbc investigation has found other mistakes on the ground that contributed to the chaos. the police blocked some roads because they believed downed power lines were energised. we want to make sure that you didn't go over a downed live power line. but hawaiian electric has told the bbc that it told the police several times during the day that the power lines weren't energised. this is one recording of such a conversation given to the bbc by hawaiian electric. hi, police department — fire is asking if you guys can shut down all of the electric off of lahaina, above and below the bypass. it's off right now. it's all off? yeah. 0k. thank you. 0k, bye. the police, however, told the bbc that the company did not give clear and definitive confirmation that the lines were de—energised. the result was police treating fallen lines as live and blocking roads. one witness, travis miller, showed the bbc his footage. he filmed the main road going north out of the town, blocked for hours by the police. i knew, like, once i saw the roadblock, this is insane. people lost their lives that wouldn't have lost their lives. maui's mayor, richard bissen, concedes the town should have been better prepared. you know, better preparation. right? i mean, that's what everybody is pointing to. and who should take responsibility for that? we all should take responsibility. all of us, for sure. u! and the neighbours she took in her car survived. some of her neighbours, though, weren't so lucky. some people are, "you're a hero for saving them. they would have been dead." and i'm like, "i'm nota hero to people i passed, evidently — that i didn't know about, that i didn't check on." so many things that should have happened that didn't happen. that report was from james clayton. the investigation into the cause of that goes on. i have a feeling i'm being looked at very intensely. a lot of experience in life broadcasting and i feel it. nice to see you, both. brute in life broadcasting and i feel it. nice to see you, both.— in life broadcasting and i feel it. nice to see you, both. we have seen a lovely picture _ nice to see you, both. we have seen a lovely picture this _ nice to see you, both. we have seen a lovely picture this morning. - nice to see you, both. we have seen a lovely picture this morning. have i a lovely picture this morning. have you seen it? you have seen it before, presumably. not this one. your book is all about dogs. this confirms my _ your book is all about dogs. this confirms my belief. _ your book is all about dogs. try 3 confirms my belief. jessica, who has done the illustrations, particularly this one of the cocker spaniel puppies, wouldn't that be a great wallpaper or a great runner? now you have made that happen and this is what i will do. probably a bit smaller, may be as a runner. border? that's what — smaller, may be as a runner. border? that's what i — smaller, may be as a runner. border? that's what i mean. _ smaller, may be as a runner. border? that's what i mean. well _ smaller, may be as a runner. border? that's what i mean. well done, - smaller, may be as a runner. 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dogs. he made a group of friends for us that i still our friends now. and none of us have the dogs we originally had when we met but it is amazing what dogs can do. cats, is woelfl so we were talking outside about the secret to happiness and longer life and i know you will have a doctor on talking about that and i said what about pets? is there data to show that people who have pets live longer? we were talking about loneliness and how pets really are crucial in people's lives. for dogs getting them out of the house, and with both dogs and cats, giving them comfort and that feeling of not being alone. it is really important part of the structure of our lives. i it is really important part of the structure of our lives.— it is really important part of the structure of our lives. i have heard stories before _ structure of our lives. i have heard stories before about _ structure of our lives. i have heard stories before about dogs - structure of our lives. i have heard stories before 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nigelwill call it nigel, no matter what the sex. nigel will be the name of the dog? _ sex. nigel will be the name of the do ? c, c, dog? no, it will not. laughter _ laughter yeah i met a lovely dog called raymond the other day. dog names are funny, you could do a whole morning. my funny, you could do a whole morning. my favourite so funny, you could do a whole morning. my favourite— my favourite so far it is taxi! because i — my favourite so far it is taxi! because i love _ my favourite so far it is taxi! because i love the _ my favourite so far it is taxi! because i love the idea i my favourite so far it is taxi! because i love the idea of. my favourite so far it is taxi! - because i love the idea of someone shouting "taxi!" . it is because i love the idea of someone shouting 'taxi!�* .— shouting 'taxi!�* . it is a lovely read. i shouting 'taxi!�* . it is a lovely read- i hope — shouting 'taxi!�* . it is a lovely read. i hope you _ shouting 'taxi!�* . it is a lovely read. i hope you 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myself with puppies. you could do at then and now shot with your— you could do at then and now shot with your new dog.— you could do at then and now shot with your new dog. lying next to it on the lawn? _ with your new dog. lying next to it on the lawn? in _ with your new dog. lying next to it on the lawn? in a _ with your new dog. lying next to it on the lawn? in a smock. - with your new dog. lying next to it on the lawn? in a smock. great i on the lawn? in a smock. great idea... on the lawn? in a smock. great idea--- i— idea... ! laughter clare's book, isle of dogs: my canine adventure through britain, is out now. next time, bring a dog in, as well. it nearly happened. sheldon was going to come in today. i was all over that, don't worry, going to come in today. i was all overthat, don't worry, but going to come in today. i was all over that, don't worry, but never mind. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. i'm alison earle. police investigating the disappearance of a man in south london nearly four weeks ago have found a body in the boot of a car. justin henry was last seen on the 15th of october at a fast food restaurant in croydon. two men have been charged with his murder. counting begins this morning in the by—election to see who'll be the new mayor of hackney. the former labour mayor philip glanville stood down over his association with an ex councillor who was found guilty of possessing indecent images of children. the result�*s expected around lunchtime. vehicle breakdowns caused by potholes are said to have reached a record high due to the "substandard state" of local roads. that's the verdict of motoring group the rac, which said it's received nearly six thousand call—outs due to poor road surfaces betweenjuly and september — that's a 46% increase from the same period last year. travel now. and this is how the tube is looking at the moment. there's no service on the overground between liverpool street and cheshunt/chingford due to a signal failure at walthamstow central. now on to the weather. there is the chance of a light shower in places, but it should turn brighter this afternoon. and staying mostly dry this evening. expect temperatures of up to 11 degrees. there's more on our website and social media, including the latest london tea craze. that's it for now, i'm back in around half an hour. good morning. welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today... a senior officer says keep politics out of policing, as calls for the home secretary to be sacked increase, after she accused the metropolitan police of bias. israel's prime minister says the country is not seeking to occupy or govern the gaza strip after its war with hamas ends. good morning. the growth problem continues. new figures out today suggest the economy was totally flat between july and september. suggest the economy was totally flat betweenjuly and september. i am matted jeans factory in cardigan to find out why getting the economy growing again matters. —— at a jeans factory. the agony is over for luis diaz. he hears that his father had been freed by colombian kidnappers, and reunited with his family, just hours before he plays for liverpool in the europa league. getting old doesn't have to mean getting ill. england's chief medical officer is giving advice on how we can help ourselves stay well into our later years. and a brief window of dry weather heading our way but with some overnight frost and fog. for the time being, still downpours today, particularly across the southern half of the uk. all the details on that here on breakfast. it's friday, the 10th of november. our main story. one of the uk's most senior police officers says policing cannot be influenced by politics. it comes as the prime minister is under pressure to sack his home secretary, following comments she made in the times newspaper. in the article, which hadn't been cleared by the government, suella braverman accused the metropolitan police of "playing favourites" by treating pro—palestinian marches differently to demonstrations by right wing groups. our home affairs correspondent, june kelly has the latest. the war in the middle east has led to weekend pro—palestinian protests in london... ..and other cities around the uk. and tomorrow, once again, demonstrators are due to be on the march in the capital. they're scheduled to set off after the armistice day two minute silence. suella braverman has denounced these demonstrations as hate marches and, controversially, she's accused the police of showing favouritism to left wing groups. the met police commissioner sir mark rowley insists there are currently no grounds to ban tomorrow's march, and now he's being backed by another senior officer. the chair of the national police chiefs' council, gavin stephens, says... however, some politicians are adamant the march should be banned and there was this message to the met. i am begging them, and i use that word advisedly, begging them for the sake of all of those servicemen, ex—servicemen and the public, who hold this as a sacred day, think again. from one of his conservative colleagues, there was a different appeal. i would just say to every minister and every political leader, we've got tojust use our language carefully and we've got to make sure that we concentrate on dampening things down rather than fuelling that sort of hatred and that division. so this weekend, as the country remembers so many lives lost in wars past, it's the response to a current conflict which is causing division. june kelly, bbc news. our political correspondent hannah millerjoins us now from the cenotaph in central london. morning to you. i think the ministerial code needs to be explained about what rules ministers are tied to abide by.— are tied to abide by. absolutely. the are are tied to abide by. absolutely. they are making _ are tied to abide by. absolutely. they are making preparations i are tied to abide by. absolutely. i they are making preparations now here at the cenotaph for the commemorations for the weekend. we have seen people looking at the flags as well. in many ways it has moved on from being a row about whether or not the pro—palestinian man should go ahead. it is not due to come exactly passed here but this is now a row in downing street about the future of the home secretary. they say they are still looking into exactly how this article came to be published without the changes they had asked for. there is a question here about whether or not suella braverman had breached the ministerial code. that is a set of rules that ministers have to abide by when they take up their cabinet positions. it says all major policy announcements have to be run by downing street itself. the team of suella braverman would say it was not a major policy announcement, it was an opinion piece in a newspaper. ultimately, it does seem that these guidelines could very much be open to interpretation. the prime minister does have an advisor who can advise on whether or not the rules have been breached. ultimately it is rishi sunak himself who will decide whether she ought to be sacked or kept in post, perhaps with some other kind of punishment or whether he needs to accept this has happened and allow her to remain. thank you for taking us through that. hannah miller. events in the middle east are developing. charlie. israel's prime minister says the country's goal is not to conquer, occupy or govern the gaza strip after its war with hamas ends. hamas is designated a terrorist organisation by the uk. meanwhile, israel is implementing daily four—hour pauses to allow civilians to flee northern gaza. here's our middle east correspondent yolande knell with the latest. even as the war rages on in gaza, the debate is intensifying about what comes next if israel deposes hamas. israel's prime minister recently said his country would keep security control here indefinitely — but that idea was criticised by washington, and he's now shifting his position. we don't seek to govern gaza, we don't seek to occupy it, but we seek to give it and us a betterfuture in the entire middle east. fleeing israel's advances and in search of food and water, tens of thousands of palestinians have been heading south this week, at times when israel's army is allowing safe passage. the us says it's a step in the right direction. it's pushing for longer pauses — short of a full ceasefire — to get aid into gaza. in gaza city, israel says its forces are tightening their stranglehold. there have been fierce battles near two major hospitals — including al—shifa, which israel says is in the heart of the hamas military quarter. but with every day of fighting, fears grow of a humanitarian catastrophe. more than a month after the deadly cross—border attacks of hamas brought heavy israeli bombardment, civilians in gaza are paying a grave price. many thousands killed and wounded, and 1.5 million displaced. the suffering is immense. yolande knell, bbc news, jerusalem. mark lowen joins us now from southern israel. good morning to you. now your position as one of yours are familiar with now with gaza behind you. i think we can see some smoke from a number of strikes, particularly, i think you have information on some fighting near hospitals within gaza. tell us more. yes, charlie. this is the israeli advance towards al—shifa hospital, which was the biggest hospital in gaza before the war and remain so because so many hospitals are out of operation. it is thought to be a hospital that is sheltering some 60,000 civilians possibly in the grounds. it is a very complicated target for the israelis. the israelis have consistently said it is concealing hamas tunnels and fuel storage also, which makes it in their view, a legitimate target by not targeting the facility itself all the civilians but targeting what they say is the hamas infrastructure. hamas denies using that hospital. we have seen graphic videos which appear to show mrs hitting the ground to the hospital and very extensive injuries there. we are hearing from our teams on the ground that israeli forces are around 250 metres away from the hospital and they are advancing on four different axes. that appears to be one major target of the israeli offensive. another hospital has already reported increasing attacks this morning. when you look at the extent of israeli military control on the ground in gaza, our teams have said it is the most extensive presence of israeli military on the ground in gaza since israel seized gaza in 1967. hat gives a sense of how the israelis have pursued their presence on the ground and are tightening their grip evermore on gaza city. tightening their grip evermore on gaza ci . c, ~ tightening their grip evermore on gaza ci . c, ,, , c, tightening their grip evermore on gaza ci . c, ~' , c, , tightening their grip evermore on gazaci . c, , c gaza city. thank you very much. our re orter, gaza city. thank you very much. our reporter. who _ gaza city. thank you very much. our reporter. who is— gaza city. thank you very much. our reporter, who is in _ gaza city. thank you very much. our reporter, who is in southern - gaza city. thank you very much. our reporter, who is in southern israel. | government plans to reform adult social care in england are behind schedule — according to a report from the spending watchdog. plans for a decade—long overhaul of the system in england were set out in december 2021 but the national audit office says more than half of the budget has since been diverted elsewhere. the government says it remains committed to reforms. a production company owned by the actor, robert de niro, has been ordered to pay a former employee more than $1 million over claims of gender discrimination and retaliation. it ends a year—long legal battle after graham chase robinson alleged she was abused, demeaned and underpaid. jurors did not find the actor personally liable. vehicle breakdowns caused by potholes have reached a record high due to the "substandard state" of local roads. the rac said it received almost 6,000 call—outs due to poor road surfaces in the uk, betweenjuly and september. the government says an extra £8 billion has been allocated to help fix the problem. the uk's economy failed to grow between july to september, according to the latest gdp figures. peter ruddick is at a factory in cardigan for us this morning with the details. ina way in a way it is all about making things and who is spending what. what other telling us? that things and who is spending what. what other telling us?— what other telling us? that is rirht. what other telling us? that is right- there — what other telling us? that is right. there were _ what other telling us? that is right. there were some i what other telling us? that is right. there were some fears| what other telling us? that is i right. there were some fears these figures today could be negative and if that had happened and then we had had another negative decline in three months' time, that would mean we are in a technical recession, which would be a bit of a headache in what is likely to be, could well be an election year. there might well be some relief in downing street about these numbers today, perhaps. the prime minister has made growing the economy one of his five priorities for the year. between july and september there was zero growth. the economy was totally flat. to be specific, the economy declined by 0.02% when a figure rounded up to 0%. we know the businesses that rely on buying and selling houses suffered. manufacturing, construction, factories like this, house building weather actually held up relatively well but not enough to deliver what well but not enough to deliver what we call growth. those figures do not just matter politically, they also have a real—world impact as well. when you have a growing economy, businesses like this can expand when they can invest, createjobs. if you have a slowing economy, well, that puts firms and livelihoods at risk. so many businesses like this one rely on consumer spending, though. with energy prices set to go up again injanuary, with figures suggesting there are more people falling behind in their mortgage payments, there are some fears that despite today's figure suggesting the economy is flat things could still get worse before they get better. c, ~' , c, , c in a major scientific achievement, surgeons in new york have performed the world's first eye transplant. aaronjames underwent 21 hours of surgery, in an operation that replaced half of his face, after a work related accident. our reporter sean dilley has the story. this is a medicalfirst. aaronjames is the first human recipient of a whole transplanted eye. they told me, they said, "honestly, we never expected it to make it to the transplant, you know?" i mean, never expected it to work at all. and they told me that from the get go. but just the fact that it's allowed... i mean, you know, that's... that's the first step. surgeons here in new york spent 21 hours removing part of their donor's face and left eye, including the optic nerve, then skillfully grafting them on to their patient. this is a day that could so easily have never come for aaron james. the 46—year—old electrical worker from arkansas suffered life—changing injuries injune 2021 after his face contacted a 7,200 volt live wire. the accident cost him his left arm, nose, lips, front teeth and left eye, as well as his chin and part of his cheek. do you have any pain at all? no. it's been six months since the experimental surgery. so far, the transplanted eye sees nothing, but surgeons are positive about what this means for the future. well, i'm pretty impressed with what we're seeing this early on. at this point, the mere fact that the eye is alive and looks healthy is pretty special. for aaronjames, the cosmetic benefits are plain for others to see, even if his new left eye can't. but doctors say the first whole human eye transplant offers real hope that what they've learned here could one day restore sight to those who cannot see. sean dilley, bbc news. an amazing medical advancement. just shows how the industry is progressing. some good news to bring you. strictly come dancing star amy dowden has proudly rung the bell to signify the end of her cancer treatment. what a special moment that must be for her! the dancer had her eighth and final round of chemotherapy yesterday at good hope hospital in birmingham. amy discovered the lump in her breast in april and has been raising awareness of the disease through her treatment. big hugs to her. you have done this. we have both reported from hospitals where we have spoken to cancer care nurses. when they see these patients do that, it is as emotional for them is that they have gone through the whole treatment caring, seeing the ups and downs and it is congratulations, amy. you had a child early on, what was it about? wetness. —— a child. relative wetness. wetness. -- a child. relative wetness-— wetness. -- a child. relative wetness. c, c c, , wetness. -- a child. relative wetness. c, c c, wetness. particularly some parts of wales, wetness. particularly some parts of wales. england _ wetness. particularly some parts of wales, england and _ wetness. particularly some parts of wales, england and western - wetness. particularly some parts of. wales, england and western scotland. these colours are amazing. look at this picturejust these colours are amazing. look at this picture just from this these colours are amazing. look at this picturejust from this morning in cumbria. you'll get to enjoy the autumn colours across most parts of the country at their finest with lots of sunshine on the way. actually quite chilly. the coldest night last night since the end of april, —6 in the far north of scotland. frost free further south. temperatures ten, 11 in parts of wales and south—west england. here we with very wet and windy conditions. heavy rain across central and southern england right now pushing towards the south east. lots of surface water and if few rumbles of thunder and flashes of lightning. if few showers dotted around the coast here and there. in the north of scotland they will merge into longer spells of rain later on in the day. for many of you it would be a decent day. even in the south where we had heavy rain at the south where we had heavy rain at the moment, it will clear through into grants. still a few isolated showers in the west developing over the isle of man and the north of wales later today. temperatures today around seven to 12 degrees. the shower is in scotland and more of a breeze. the greatest chance of frost in scotland and the east of england. mrand bug gradually clearing. later on the rain returns. back to you. —— mist and fog gradually clearing. old age shouldn't always equal ill—health — that's the message from england's chief medical officer chris whitty, as part of his annual health report. he says both government and health professionals need to adapt to an ageing population but he's also hoping to make people realise there are ways they can help themselves. by 2050, a quarter of people in the uk will be over 65. and by they time they reach the age of 85, more than half are physically inactive. to combat this, people are being advised to maintain a good social network, make sure they are mentally stimulated and continue to exercise as they age. our reporter, beth parsons, has been to visit a group of over 50s, who've found a way to keep fit and have some fun. yeah. we're going to start now. are you ready? these three are ready to move. they're just three of more than 1,200 adults, over 55 in leeds and bradford who have joined in since these dance on classes begun five years ago. other side. physical exercise is good for everybody. i like to think i've always been doing it, but that's not the case. we are really thrilled. it is so encouraging to our group. we enjoy it to the best, really. i'm and arthritis patient and when i move my body, my pain is going to less and circulation is going to better. and have you noticed it's helped? has it made a difference? yeah. i get the happiness. the classes are run by yorkshire dance and sophie runs three of them a week. this is like the bestjob ever because it doesn't feel like work. and from me, starting these classes and seeing where people are, so like lower moods and coming into class and they might have, like, a few health conditions that are keeping them, you know, like not having as much mobility, but then i've seen, like over time, once they've been doing dancing, i'm not saying it's gone away, but you can see the changes in them, like, they maybe carry themselves a little bit better, they're coming into the class with a spring in their step because it's like they're enjoying doing the dancing. standing nice and tall if you can now. and those physical benefits, they're notjust anecdotal. biomedical experts say these sessions are an effective way of reducing the risk of falls and preventing a downward spiral into frailty. so we know from the evidence and the data that have been gathered by the university of leeds that dance promotes health and wellbeing, physical activity, it can improve strength and balance. and, also the social aspect of it is really important. as you can see today, it's about connecting with your community and connecting with other older adults. we're joined now in the studio by dr fari ahmed and breakfast fitness guru, mr motivator. hello to you. morning will stop what a beautiful day! _ hello to you. morning will stop what a beautiful day! i— hello to you. morning will stop what a beautiful day! i am _ hello to you. morning will stop what a beautiful day! i am in _ hello to you. morning will stop what a beautiful day! i am in lisbon i hello to you. 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never too late. thank you so much. | thank you. enjoy lisbon. thank you. thank you. enjoy lisbon. thank you. thank you. morning live follows breakfast on bbc one this morning. let's find out what they have in store with gethin and gaby. you always exercise during your programme. we you always exercise during your programme-— you always exercise during your rouramme. ~ . ~' programme. we were 'ust thinking that. mph programme. we were 'ust thinking that. strictly fitness _ programme. we were just thinking that. strictly fitness is _ programme. we were just thinking that. strictly fitness is a _ programme. we were just thinking that. strictly fitness is a massive l that. strictly fitness is a massive part of morning live. getting a heart rate up. coming up... millions of tenants remain in limbo, with fears of being evicted, because laws to protect them have been delayed again. consumer champ matt allwright has an update on the renters reform bill. this "landmark" legislation was mentioned in the king's speech but the big bit, which will protect tenants from section 21, where landlords can ask them to leave for no reason, has been shelved. i'm answering your questions, including if it'll still be possible for landlords to hike the rent up mid contract. also on the show... 1,000 people a day visit a&e with burns during diwali — the festival of light. as celebrations start, dr punam meets the lady with life—changing injuries after falling into a bonfire, and tells us how putting cling film on burns can reduce pain and stop infection. plus, punam, she's got an update on the national adhd medication shortage that's affecting thousands. also today... rhys stephenson's live at the royal albert hall, chatting to 93—year—old singer and chelsea pensioner colin thackery and musician mica paris. they're telling us why they're honoured to perform at saturday's annual festival of remembrance. and he's the food critic that's tucked into dozens of michelin star dishes. jimi famuerewa shares why he just wants a contestant to serve him up a crisp sarnie! see you at 9:15am. thank you so much. enjoy the programme. see you later. where they still talking? i think they were saying goodbye. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm alison earle. police investigating the disappearance of a man in south london have found a body in the boot of a car. justin henry was last seen on the 15th of october at a fast—food restaurant in croydon. two men have been charged with his murder. the river thames has been polluted by at least 72 billion litres of sewage discharges since 2020, according to figures from the liberal democrats. the worst—affected place was near twickenham, where over 17 billion litres was released. thames water said it's started a £100 million upgrade of the mogden sewage treatment works, which will help to reduce the number of storm discharges there. counting begins this morning in the by—election to see who'll be the new mayor of hackney. the former labour mayor philip glanville stood down over his association with a former councillor who was found guilty of possessing indecent images of children. the result�*s expected around lunchtime. vehicle breakdowns caused by potholes are said to have reached a record high due to the "substandard state" of local roads. that's the verdict of motoring group the rac, which said it's received nearly 6,000 call—outs due to poor road surfaces between july and september — that's a 46% increase from the same period last year. hard to believe but this was 17 years ago... # a moment like this... leona lewis became a global star after winning the x factor in 2006. since then she's sold 35 million records. she now divides her time between london and la, and is soon off on a uk christmas tour. but when she's not here, there is one thing she always craves. i really miss a good roast dinner. you take that for granted when you're living here — it's just normal — but when you're away, that's what i really miss, yeah. 0k — noted! travel now, and this is how the tube is looking at the moment. there's no service on the overground between liverpool street and cheshunt/ chingford due to a signal failure at walthamstow central. now onto the weather with kate. good morning. there are a few showers around first thing this morning — one or two of those could be quite heavy, but sunny spells developing as we head further through the day. now, you can see the progression of the showers overnight coming in from the northwest, so this morning they're likely to be to the west and the south of london, but we could get one or two isolated showers anywhere. ahead of them, clearing away south, dry this afternoon, plenty of sunshine, and temperatures reaching around 11 celsius — feeling cool in a northwesterly breeze. now, overnight, it's dry and it's clear. the wind light, too, so we could see one or two mist and fog patches develop — largely out towards the home counties — but a widespread frost as temperatures drop down to one celsius. for saturday, it is looking dry and clear. plenty of sunshine around after a cold, crisp start to the day. temperatures tomorrow, again around ten, 11 celsius — just a bit of patchy light cloud. then, as we head into sunday, bright start. another frost as temperatures in low single figures, but more cloud and then some patchy light rain through the middle part of the day. there's more on our website and socials — including the latest london tea craze. that's it for now — i'm back in around half an hour. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. thousands of people will march past the cenotaph this sunday, to remember those who've fought for their country. among them will bejilly and her sons austen and cooper — their dad christopher, an armed forces veteran, took his own life in 2017. it's the first time the boys are taking part in the remembrance day parade — supported by a charity for bereaved military children. they've been speaking to our reporterjohn maguire. what are we talking about? pretty, isn't it? it is. do you like it, cooper? yeah. it's nice. it's a very good place to share your memories. this is a place of comfort, peace and solace forjilly and her two sons, austen and cooper. we were driving on the top of here, and cooper got really upset. so we stopped and we kind of all had a cuddle and we talked about dad and we got out and i think we all stood and realised, "0h, wow, look, this place is amazing! why did we not come and stand here?" so itjust became somewhere that we came on dad's birthday. 0n remembrance, we do father's day. the boys were just seven and three years old when their dad, chris, a photographer in the army, took his own life seven years ago. both boys were so young. so initially i'd done the whole story that daddy was a star and not really been honest with them about what had happened. and it was quite a tough journey. since chris's death, they've been supported by scotty's little soldiers, a charity that helps bereaved children from military families. genuinely believe if we hadn't have met scotty's, the journey for all three of us would have been really, really different. ijust remember us not really talking about it. and you would do things you didn't think we'd notice — like you'd just go into the bathroom and cry, while we'd sit in the living room and just pretend to ignore it — we started talking about it and we started doing it through ways that would help us. like, i always did it through art, and you would just do it whenever you felt. you'd just talk because you're good at that and you'd make up little stories that you remembered and you'd tell us things about that, and that would be your way of connecting. and then we joined scotty's and it's just... it's helped us so much. the charity provides services such as counselling, but also organises parties and activities for the children. they can take part in a council and have a say on how it's run. austen is a member. i love being on the council because obviously you get to put your say, you get to say what you want to do and put that into scotty's. recently, we brought out a video for kids especially. video: remembrance can mean a lot i to us as it's the one time of year. when the whole country is invited to pay their respects to the men and women who have served our country, including our parents. and it'sjust saying, well, you're not alone and it probably feels like it, but you're not. and there's everyone here. it's really important to know that you're not alone. the precious box of keepsakes helps them talk about chris. the charity has shown them how to have those conversations and to ensure he remains part of the family. now we will say to people, "no, we talk about dad all the time, and we're still really close to dad's family. we spend lots of time with them as well." so it's really, really special. and it is all down to the fact that they opened us up to start those conversations. they're receiving their distinctive yellow—and—black scarves to join other families at the remembrance sunday parade in london — an event they had previously avoided. i've always felt that we're expected to grieve on that day. and, actually, the boys don't grieve because it's remembrance, the boys grieve because their dad's not here, and they grieve on days that... he might want someone to take him to football or austen's doing a show. and, actually, there's that empty seat, i guess, for cooper. he asked this time, "why are we not going?" and i said, "oh, i didn't think you wanted to." and he said, "well, i do, because it's about remembering my dad." and you're really proud, aren't you? so you really want to wear the medals and do that walk. and actually, we said, "well, we all make choices as a family," so that's what we do. well, i wasjust thinking, right, i don't get to know much about him. i was only young, so i... i don't remember much at all. it'sjust nice to, like, learn more about him — learn some stories and have fun really _ we need to figure out which side they go, because... remembrance means different things to us all. but for this family, it's about the husband, father and soldier that they've lost but is still a major part of their lives. john maguire, bbc news, penistone in south yorkshire. our thanks to them for telling us and letting them into our lives —— mecca letting us into their lives. i wish them all the happiness in that march because they will be surrounded by people that understand and they will be able to honour their dad. good luck to them all. sometimes a news story, a really important _ them all. sometimes a news story, a really important family _ them all. sometimes a news story, a really important family story, - them all. sometimes a news story, a really important family story, very i really important family story, very difficult situation seems more important than sport. far more important _ important than sport. far more important than _ important than sport. far more important than what _ important than sport. far more important than what happens l important than sport. far more | important than what happens on important than sport. far more - important than what happens on the field. that was the case for luis diaz, who has been wracked with worry, worrying about his parents. both were kidnapped in colombia, his mother was released the night of the kidnapping but his father was held for two weeks, 13 days in total. luis diaz was given the choice by liverpool, does he play on? he didn't at first but he did play, he scored in the draw against luton at the weekend and finally last night before going onto the pitch he found out his father had been released. i am sure by now they will have had a zoom conversation which will have been emotional, hopefully they will get to see each other stop whether he will fly his parents over, we are yet to see. they are due to play brentford on friday. but what a relief! liverpool star luis diaz was beaming with joy, according to his manager — after being told that his father had been released by kidnappersjust a couple of hours before liverpool and diaz kicked off their europa league match in toulouse in france. thousands of miles away, manny diaz was given a hero's welcome as he arrived home, weak but in good spirits, having been held captive for 13 days. the columbian police and military had focused their search in dense forests near the border with venezuela. his kidnappers — the national liberation army — had said they'd taken luis diaz's parents at gunpoint by mistake. his mother was released that night, and finally yesterday the kidnappers handed his father over to members of the united nations and catholic church. he was returned home and reunited with his family in emotional scenes — they'd waited for this moment for nearly two weeks. it seemed so much longer. diaz started in the match at toulouse, and for once the result didn't matter in the grand scheme of things. liverpool lost the game. diogojota pulled it back to 3—2 in the 89th minute to give them hope, and they thought they'd equalised seven minutes into added time throutharell quansah, but there was yet another controversial var decision — the goal ruled out for handball way back in the build—up. managerjurgen klopp's post—match press conference, which was held in a marquee, was disturbed by the home fans celebrating this surprise win over liverpool. we were as good organised as the way to the press conference, obviously. pretty chaotic. who had the idea to do the press conference here? that will be a really interesting question. wow. loud chanting. yeah, what annoys! —— a noise. elsewhere in the europa league, it was another historic night for brighton, as they celebrated their first away european victory, and it came in amsterdam as they beat the ajax 2—0. they completed back—to—back victories against the dutch giants, who are four—times european champions. ansu fati had scored the first before setting up simon adingra to double their lead, and so brighton in theirfirst european campaign are now second in their group, and well—placed to reach the knock out stages. a goal by lucas paqueta put west ham top of their group as they beat olympiacos 1—0. two points from their final two games will be enough to ensure european action in the new year for the third season in a row. rangers are also in good shape to make the knock—out stage after a 2—1win over sparta prague — todd cantwell scoring what turned out to be the winner. rangers are second in their group. the europa conference league, which is the compeitition just below the europa league, is a real chance for aston villa to win a first major trophy since 1996, and a late winner, by ollie watkins, helped them come from behind, to beat az alkmaar 2—1. villa need just one more point, from their final two matches, to reach the knockout stages of the cup that west ham won last season. aberdeen can't now make it through in the europa conference league, despite a cracking free kick from jamie mcgrath, which earned them a point against paok in athens. that is your sport for now. lots of ositive that is your sport for now. lots of positive stories. _ that is your sport for now. lots of positive stories. not _ that is your sport for now. lots of positive stories. not for _ that is your sport for now. lots of| positive stories. not for aberdeen, a treat positive stories. not for aberdeen, a great free — positive stories. not for aberdeen, a great free kick _ positive stories. not for aberdeen, a great free kick but _ positive stories. not for aberdeen, a great free kick but they _ positive stories. not for aberdeen, a great free kick but they are - positive stories. not for aberdeen, a great free kick but they are out. | a great free kick but they are out. somebody has to lose. thank you. a hedgehog—like creature, that was believed to be extinct, has been captured on film for the first time. named after sir david attenborough — the ancient mammal is thought to have first emerged 200 million years ago — and has now been re—discovered in indonesia. our environment correspondent jonah fisher has more. that's the first ever image, that one, of attenborough's long—beaked echidna. that anyone has ever recorded... ever. ..in entirety of history? correct. proof of life from a species that was feared lost forever. i was euphoric and the whole team was euphoric. 12 seconds of camera—trap footage, a reminder that there are still places on earth that humans have not disturbed. it's absolutely astonishing. i think it's extremely important to discover enigmatic new species and rediscover enigmatic lost species because they demonstrate the value of the environment in which they live. it's an echidna, and you can tell that it's a mammal because it's got hair. a favourite of sir david, the rediscovered species is called attenborough's long—beaked echidna. it's weirdly different from a hedgehog, a porcupine, or almost any other kind of mammal. here sir david is with its much—easier—to—find cousin, the short—bea ked echidna. thought to have lived alongside dinosaurs, echidnas are one of only two mammals to lay eggs. just one specimen of the attenborough echidna has been gathered — back in 1961. it's so special it's kept under lock and key in the treasure room of naturalis, the natural history museum of the netherlands. it may look a little bit like a run—over hedgehog, but until now, this unique specimen was the only proof that the attenborough long—beaked echidna actually existed. and that's because these echidna live in one of the most remote places on earth — the cyclops mountains in indonesia. previous efforts to find the echidna failed due to a combination of opposition from local villagers and the brutal conditions. you got it? yeah. so you're slipping all over the place. you're being scratched and cut. there are venomous animals around you. deadly snakes like the death adder. there are leeches literally everywhere. my colleagues and i were chuckling all the time. "oh, this is new — nobody has seen this!" it wasn't all about the echidna. other scientists in the four—week—long expedition found new discoveries — in particular of insects — at every turn. it was a truly monumental expedition. and you think you found lots of new species? several dozens, for sure. in the nearest village to the mountains, the attenborough echidna's elusiveness plays a role in local tradition, as a way to bring peace. when members of the community are in conflict, one is sent up into the mountains to locate an attenborough's long—beaked echidna, the other goes out into the ocean to locate a marlin. this can sometimes take decades, but once those two very difficult—to—find animals have been located, it symbolises that the sort of quest for the resolution of conflict is complete. having established that the cyclops mountains are as unique as the echidna that live there, the hope is that it will be easier to get all of it protected. jonah fisher, bbc news. so it is the long beaked echidna, the rediscovery. do you know what tickles me? stating the obvious, and afraid. it hasjust tickles me? stating the obvious, and afraid. it has just been there doing its own thing. and it has been there the whole time, it's just we haven't found it. do you know what i mean? oh, well, it's there, but it has been walking around.- oh, well, it's there, but it has been walking around. without being bothered. are _ been walking around. without being bothered. are just _ been walking around. without being bothered. are just being _ been walking around. without being bothered. are just being a - been walking around. without being bothered. are just being a long - bothered. are 'ust being a long beaked bothered. are just being a long beaked echidna. _ beaked echidna. laughter i know what i mean! ., laughter iknowwhatimean! ., . laughter iknowwhatimean! ., , ., i know what i mean! no, i see what you mean- — i know what i mean! no, i see what you mean- it _ i know what i mean! no, i see what you mean. it has _ i know what i mean! no, i see what you mean. it has been _ you mean. it has been doing its thing- hide _ you mean. it has been doing its thing. hide and _ you mean. it has been doing its thing. hide and seek— you mean. it has been doing itsj thing. hide and seek champion. you mean. it has been doing its - thing. hide and seek champion. maybe it is deliberate. _ thing. hide and seek champion. maybe it is deliberate. now— thing. hide and seek champion. maybe it is deliberate. now it _ thing. hide and seek champion. maybe it is deliberate. now it is _ thing. hide and seek champion. maybe it is deliberate. now it is like, - it is deliberate. now it is like, oh, the it is deliberate. now it is like, oh. they are _ it is deliberate. now it is like, oh, they are going _ it is deliberate. now it is like, oh, they are going to - it is deliberate. now it is like, oh, they are going to bother l it is deliberate. now it is like, i oh, they are going to bother me again! gorgeous views in the echidna habitat. beautifulview again! gorgeous views in the echidna habitat. beautiful view not obviously anywhere near as tropical oras obviously anywhere near as tropical or as dry. fit. obviously anywhere near as tropical or as d . �* . obviously anywhere near as tropical or as d . �* , ., or as dry. a sign of winter approaching- _ cold start this morning but brighter weather— cold start this morning but brighter weather on the way tomorrow. good morning _ weather on the way tomorrow. good morning. this is how it looked a short— morning. this is how it looked a short while _ morning. this is how it looked a short while ago in central scotland. some _ short while ago in central scotland. some frost — short while ago in central scotland. some frost on the ground, some fog. we will— some frost on the ground, some fog. we will see more of that as we head into the _ we will see more of that as we head into the start of the weekend. but later on— into the start of the weekend. but later on sunday the rain will gradually turn to southern and western — gradually turn to southern and western parts. but overall a window of quieter— western parts. but overall a window of quieter weather coming in. western parts. but overall a window of quieterweather coming in. not quiet _ of quieterweather coming in. not quiet this— of quieterweather coming in. not quiet this morning across parts of wales— quiet this morning across parts of wales and — quiet this morning across parts of wales and southern england. this hatch _ wales and southern england. this batch of— wales and southern england. this batch of heavy rain working through central _ batch of heavy rain working through central and — batch of heavy rain working through central and southern england. some rumbles _ central and southern england. some rumbles of— central and southern england. some rumbles of thunder with showers through— rumbles of thunder with showers through the english channel, strong to gate _ through the english channel, strong to gale force winds here. all of that is— to gale force winds here. all of that is sliding southwards and eastwards. we will see what went for a time _ eastwards. we will see what went for a time in _ eastwards. we will see what went for a time in the south—east before enrolling — a time in the south—east before enrolling in the afternoon. away from _ enrolling in the afternoon. away from it. — enrolling in the afternoon. away from it. a — enrolling in the afternoon. away from it, a few showers dotted around the coast _ from it, a few showers dotted around the coast through today. many this afternoon — the coast through today. many this afternoon dry, sunny spells and temperatures around where we should be for _ temperatures around where we should be for this— temperatures around where we should be for this stage in november. slightly— be for this stage in november. slightly chilly after the cold start in the _ slightly chilly after the cold start in the north and east. tonight, long spells _ in the north and east. tonight, long spells of— in the north and east. tonight, long spells of rain into northern scotland, more breeze, not as cold as the _ scotland, more breeze, not as cold as the -6 _ scotland, more breeze, not as cold as the -6 we — scotland, more breeze, not as cold as the —6 we saw last night but elsewhere, showers across northern ireland, _ elsewhere, showers across northern ireland, through irish sea coasts into north — ireland, through irish sea coasts into north wales, most will be dry and across— into north wales, most will be dry and across parts of northern ireland, _ and across parts of northern ireland, scotland, northern and eastern — ireland, scotland, northern and eastern england, greater chance of more widespread frost. not as cold tomorrow— more widespread frost. not as cold tomorrow morning in northern scotland _ tomorrow morning in northern scotland. forarmistice tomorrow morning in northern scotland. for armistice day, a fine one for— scotland. for armistice day, a fine one for the — scotland. for armistice day, a fine one for the vast majority. just one or two— one for the vast majority. just one or two showers around, mainly to the north-east _ or two showers around, mainly to the north-east of — or two showers around, mainly to the north—east of scotland, north—east england _ north—east of scotland, north—east england. early showers in the west were fade — england. early showers in the west were fade but later in the day the si-n were fade but later in the day the sign of— were fade but later in the day the sign of rain — were fade but later in the day the sign of rain on the way and as we head _ sign of rain on the way and as we head into — sign of rain on the way and as we head into remembrance sunday, the rain will— head into remembrance sunday, the rain will start to work its way northwards and eastwards. thank you very much. you are welcome- _ thank you very much. you are welcome- i— thank you very much. you are welcome. i we _ thank you very much. you are welcome. i we seeing you - thank you very much. you are - welcome. i we seeing you tomorrow chris r an welcome. i we seeing you tomorrow chris ryan no- _ welcome. i we seeing you tomorrow chris ryan no. don't— welcome. i we seeing you tomorrow chris ryan no. don't look— welcome. i we seeing you tomorrow chris ryan no. don't look so - welcome. i we seeing you tomorrow chris ryan no. don't look so happy. chris ryan no. don't look so happy about that. have a good weekend. from the costa rican rainforest to the indus river of pakistan — viewers will be given a glimpse into the world of freshwater species in the latest instalment of planet earth. sunday's episode offers an insight into an ecosystem that's very rarely seen, captured using never before seen techniques. let's take a look at the moment a crocodile ambushes its prey. this is one of the less genteel moments. i am warning you. he digs down into the mud... ..deep enough to hide beneath the vegetation. he has built his trap right on the water's edge... ..so it's the first place that thirsty deer will come to drink. idid do i did do the warning. i know, and i hadn't seen _ i did do the warning. i know, and i hadn't seen them _ i did do the warning. i know, and i hadn't seen them before, - i did do the warning. i know, and i hadn't seen them before, either. l we're joined now by producer and director charlotte bostock and assistant producer abi brown. good morning. i suspect a lot of our audiences are _ good morning. i suspect a lot of our audiences are saying, _ good morning. i suspect a lot of our audiences are saying, oh, _ good morning. i suspect a lot of our audiences are saying, oh, r. - good morning. i suspect a lot of our audiences are saying, oh, r. it- good morning. i suspect a lot of our audiences are saying, oh, r. it is. audiences are saying, oh, r. it is that feeling. you can talk me through that? what were we watching? apart from the obvious which is a crackdown doing what it does. the crocodiles have this amazing hunting strategy. _ crocodiles have this amazing hunting strategy. they— crocodiles have this amazing hunting strategy. they are _ crocodiles have this amazing hunting strategy, they are really _ crocodiles have this amazing hunting strategy, they are really clever- crocodiles have this amazing hunting strategy, they are really clever and i strategy, they are really clever and ithink— strategy, they are really clever and i think that — strategy, they are really clever and i think that is — strategy, they are really clever and i think that is what _ strategy, they are really clever and i think that is what we _ strategy, they are really clever and i think that is what we try- strategy, they are really clever and i think that is what we try to - strategy, they are really clever and i think that is what we try to focus i i think that is what we try to focus on in _ i think that is what we try to focus on in this. — i think that is what we try to focus on in this. we have so much- i think that is what we try to focus i on in this. we have so much respect for these _ on in this. we have so much respect for these animals— on in this. we have so much respect for these animals but _ on in this. we have so much respect for these animals but they - on in this. we have so much respect for these animals but they are - for these animals but they are building — for these animals but they are building traps _ for these animals but they are building traps on— for these animals but they are building traps on the - for these animals but they are building traps on the edge - for these animals but they are building traps on the edge of. for these animals but they are - building traps on the edge of water holes. _ building traps on the edge of water holes. they— building traps on the edge of water holes. they dig _ building traps on the edge of water holes, they dig into— building traps on the edge of water holes, they dig into the _ building traps on the edge of water holes, they dig into the water, - holes, they dig into the water, submerge _ holes, they dig into the water, submerge themselves- holes, they dig into the water, submerge themselves and - holes, they dig into the water, i submerge themselves and cover themselves— submerge themselves and cover themselves with _ submerge themselves and cover themselves with vegetation - submerge themselves and cover themselves with vegetation as i themselves with vegetation as camouflage _ themselves with vegetation as camouflage and _ themselves with vegetation as camouflage and then - themselves with vegetation as camouflage and then they- themselves with vegetation as camouflage and then they are | themselves with vegetation as - camouflage and then they are waiting for the _ camouflage and then they are waiting for the deer— camouflage and then they are waiting for the deer to — camouflage and then they are waiting for the deer to come _ camouflage and then they are waiting for the deer to come and _ camouflage and then they are waiting for the deer to come and drink- for the deer to come and drink and you can _ for the deer to come and drink and you can guess— for the deer to come and drink and you can guess what _ for the deer to come and drink and you can guess what happens - for the deer to come and drink and you can guess what happens next. | you can guess what happens next. they— you can guess what happens next. theyiump — you can guess what happens next. theyiump out _ you can guess what happens next. theyiump out of _ you can guess what happens next. theyjump out of the _ you can guess what happens next. theyjump out of the water - you can guess what happens next. theyjump out of the water to - you can guess what happens next. i theyjump out of the water to catch one. _ they 'ump out of the water to catch one. ., . , , , one. how much time is spent getting that moment? _ one. how much time is spent getting that moment? it _ one. how much time is spent getting that moment? it starts _ one. how much time is spent getting that moment? it starts with - one. how much time is spent getting that moment? it starts with that - that moment? it starts with that beautiful aerial shot where you think, oh, something wonderful here. then something is lacking. it is also beautifully coordinated. the hunt itself is _ also beautifully coordinated. the hunt itself is over in a split second _ hunt itself is over in a split second but to get that actual moment, the camera operator spent 300 hours — moment, the camera operator spent 300 hours in the hide. for the first 100 hours. — 300 hours in the hide. for the first 100 hours, literally nothing happened. he was sat there, staring at the _ happened. he was sat there, staring at the water. it takes a huge amount of time _ at the water. it takes a huge amount of time and — at the water. it takes a huge amount of time and actually took us four years of going back to be able to .et years of going back to be able to get that— years of going back to be able to get that moment.— years of going back to be able to get that moment. years of going back to be able to net that moment. ~ ., ~ ., ., get that moment. wow. again, we are alwa s get that moment. wow. again, we are always fascinated _ get that moment. wow. again, we are always fascinated with how _ get that moment. wow. again, we are always fascinated with how close - get that moment. wow. again, we are always fascinated with how close you l always fascinated with how close you can get to creatures like this. you mention to hide. presumably with the crocodile you are not close. this mention to hide. presumably with the crocodile you are not close.— crocodile you are not close. this is a very traditional _ crocodile you are not close. this is a very traditional long _ crocodile you are not close. this is a very traditional long lens. - crocodile you are not close. this is a very traditional long lens. we . a very traditional long lens. we have _ a very traditional long lens. we have a — a very traditional long lens. we have a big. _ a very traditional long lens. we have a big. big _ a very traditional long lens. we have a big, big lens _ a very traditional long lens. we have a big, big lens so - a very traditional long lens. we have a big, big lens so you - a very traditional long lens. we have a big, big lens so you are| a very traditional long lens. we i have a big, big lens so you are not disturbing — have a big, big lens so you are not disturbing the _ have a big, big lens so you are not disturbing the animals _ have a big, big lens so you are not disturbing the animals but- have a big, big lens so you are not disturbing the animals but you - have a big, big lens so you are not disturbing the animals but you canj disturbing the animals but you can .et disturbing the animals but you can get the _ disturbing the animals but you can get the close—ups. _ disturbing the animals but you can get the close—ups. (an _ disturbing the animals but you can get the close-ups.— disturbing the animals but you can get the close-ups. can we talk about other clever — get the close-ups. can we talk about other clever creatures? _ get the close-ups. can we talk about other clever creatures? the - get the close-ups. can we talk about other clever creatures? the mugger| other clever creatures? the mugger crocodile, great name. the play dead fish, another great name. this crocodile, great name. the play dead fish, another great name.— fish, another great name. this is robabl fish, another great name. this is probably one _ fish, another great name. this is probably one of _ fish, another great name. this is probably one of my _ fish, another great name. this is probably one of my favourite - fish, another great name. this is i probably one of my favourite stories because. _ probably one of my favourite stories because. as — probably one of my favourite stories because, as you said, the name, play dead fish. _ because, as you said, the name, play dead fish. it _ because, as you said, the name, play dead fish, it lies on the bottom of the lake _ dead fish, it lies on the bottom of the lake bed pretending to be dead and then— the lake bed pretending to be dead and then catches unsuspecting fish. what _ and then catches unsuspecting fish. what it— and then catches unsuspecting fish. what it does more than that is it actually— what it does more than that is it actually fakes its own death and some _ actually fakes its own death and some of— actually fakes its own death and some of these deaths are really quite _ some of these deaths are really quite dramatic and bombastic. i don't _ quite dramatic and bombastic. i don't know if you have the footage. i don't _ don't know if you have the footage. i don't know— don't know if you have the footage. i don't know if we do. it don't know if you have the footage. i don't know if we do.— i don't know if we do. it nosedives into the sand. _ i don't know if we do. it nosedives into the sand. but _ i don't know if we do. it nosedives into the sand. but it _ i don't know if we do. it nosedives into the sand. but it is _ i don't know if we do. it nosedives into the sand. but it is truly - into the sand. but it is truly amazing. _ into the sand. but it is truly amazing-— into the sand. but it is truly amazin.. . ~ , ., ., into the sand. but it is truly amazin.. . ~' , ., . . amazing. talk us through what we are seeina. in amazing. talk us through what we are seeing- in this— amazing. talk us through what we are seeing. in this clip _ amazing. talk us through what we are seeing. in this clip the _ amazing. talk us through what we are seeing. in this clip the fishes - seeing. in this clip the fishes auoin seeing. in this clip the fishes going around _ seeing. in this clip the fishes going around delivery - seeing. in this clip the fishes going around delivery along. | seeing. in this clip the fishes - going around delivery along. this is the play— going around delivery along. this is the play dead fish and it will do a side flop— the play dead fish and it will do a side flop and it will lie there waiting _ side flop and it will lie there waiting for the unsuspecting prey to come _ waiting for the unsuspecting prey to come in. _ waiting for the unsuspecting prey to come in. . . . waiting for the unsuspecting prey to come in. , ,. come in. this is an oscar-winning performance- _ come in. this is an oscar-winning performance. it _ come in. this is an oscar-winning performance. it is, _ come in. this is an oscar-winning performance. it is, and _ come in. this is an oscar-winning performance. it is, and in - come in. this is an oscar-winningj performance. it is, and in another cli it performance. it is, and in another clip it does— performance. it is, and in another clip it does a _ performance. it is, and in another clip it does a full— performance. it is, and in another clip it does a full dive _ performance. it is, and in another clip it does a full dive bomb - performance. it is, and in another clip it does a full dive bomb which is hilarious — clip it does a full dive bomb which is hilarious and then it's catches them _ is hilarious and then it's catches them like — is hilarious and then it's catches them like this. it is not always that— them like this. it is not always that successful will stop here we no. that successful will stop here we i o, , that successful will stop here we .0_ , , ., that successful will stop here we no. , , ., ., ., . that successful will stop here we go. this is the over dramatic one. that was its _ go. this is the over dramatic one. that was its oscar-winning - that was its oscar—winning performance death. that was its oscar-winning performance death.- that was its oscar-winning performance death. that was its oscar-winning erformance death. ~ ,. , ~ performance death. with scenes like that, ou performance death. with scenes like that. you know— performance death. with scenes like that, you know that _ performance death. with scenes like that, you know that the _ performance death. with scenes like that, you know that the fish - performance death. with scenes like that, you know that the fish does - that, you know that the fish does this but it hasn't been seen before, is that how you are related to it in the first place, while you are filming that fish in that place? yes, so this was written in the 1980s — yes, so this was written in the 1980s paper by a scientist and he suspected that this happened but 'ust suspected that this happened but just didn't have the technology to truly. _ just didn't have the technology to truly, truly know. so we went out and bit _ truly, truly know. so we went out and bit of— truly, truly know. so we went out and bit of a — truly, truly know. so we went out and bit of a gamble with our high speed _ and bit of a gamble with our high speed cameras, so what you are seeing _ speed cameras, so what you are seeing that clip is about 800 frames per second, super, super slow motion. — per second, super, super slow motion. only when we were filming at those _ motion. only when we were filming at those speeds can you actually see what _ those speeds can you actually see what it _ those speeds can you actually see what it is— those speeds can you actually see what it is doing, which is these crazy— what it is doing, which is these crazy agile _ what it is doing, which is these crazy agile jumping out of water to catch _ crazy agile jumping out of water to catch the _ crazy agile jumping out of water to catch the fish. it is crazy agile jumping out of water to catch the fish.— catch the fish. it is fun talking about the _ catch the fish. it is fun talking about the animals _ catch the fish. it is fun talking about the animals and - catch the fish. it is fun talking about the animals and exactly catch the fish. it is fun talking - about the animals and exactly what they do, but the joy of having you guys on the sofa and talking about this every week is the work that is behind. and abi, there is a lot of the unglamorous stuff, the data, talking to the scientist to find out what is going on, and when it comes to freshwater observations, rainfall is so important. matt has been talking about it all morning but these are the things you monitor that give hints as to when best to film and where.— that give hints as to when best to film and where. exactly. we love to talk about the _ film and where. exactly. we love to talk about the weather _ film and where. exactly. we love to talk about the weather but - film and where. exactly. we love to talk about the weather but we - film and where. exactly. we love to talk about the weather but we have | talk about the weather but we have become _ talk about the weather but we have become experts _ talk about the weather but we have become experts in _ talk about the weather but we have become experts in predicting - talk about the weather but we have i become experts in predicting weather across— become experts in predicting weather across the _ become experts in predicting weather across the world _ become experts in predicting weather across the world and for the - become experts in predicting weather across the world and for the frog - across the world and for the frog sequence. — across the world and for the frog sequence. that _ across the world and for the frog sequence, that was _ across the world and for the frog sequence, that was hugely- across the world and for the frog - sequence, that was hugely important to know— sequence, that was hugely important to know when — sequence, that was hugely important to know when the _ sequence, that was hugely important to know when the rain _ sequence, that was hugely important to know when the rain would - sequence, that was hugely important to know when the rain would fall, - to know when the rain would fall, the frogs — to know when the rain would fall, the frogs only— to know when the rain would fall, the frogs only come _ to know when the rain would fall, the frogs only come down - to know when the rain would fall, i the frogs only come down to breed to know when the rain would fall, - the frogs only come down to breed in those _ the frogs only come down to breed in those huge _ the frogs only come down to breed in those huge numbers— the frogs only come down to breed in those huge numbers at _ the frogs only come down to breed in those huge numbers at the _ the frogs only come down to breed inj those huge numbers at the beginning of the _ those huge numbers at the beginning of the rainy— those huge numbers at the beginning of the rainy season. _ those huge numbers at the beginning of the rainy season. and _ those huge numbers at the beginning of the rainy season. and it _ those huge numbers at the beginning of the rainy season. and it happenedl of the rainy season. and it happened a month— of the rainy season. and it happened a month early— of the rainy season. and it happened a month early one _ of the rainy season. and it happened a month early one year— of the rainy season. and it happened a month early one year and - of the rainy season. and it happened a month early one year and a - of the rainy season. and it happened a month early one year and a monthl a month early one year and a month late a month early one year and a month iate another— a month early one year and a month late another year. _ a month early one year and a month late another year. horat— a month early one year and a month late another year.— late another year. how much is this slowed down? _ late another year. how much is this slowed down? probably _ late another year. how much is this slowed down? probably about - late another year. how much is this slowed down? probably about 500 | slowed down? probably about 500 frames er slowed down? probably about 500 frames per second. _ slowed down? probably about 500 frames per second. these - slowed down? probably about 500 frames per second. these are - slowed down? probably about 500| frames per second. these are frogs glide _ frames per second. these are frogs glide down — frames per second. these are frogs glide down from _ frames per second. these are frogs glide down from the _ frames per second. these are frogs glide down from the rainforest - glide down from the rainforest canopy. — glide down from the rainforest canopy. they— glide down from the rainforest canopy, they come _ glide down from the rainforest canopy, they come down - glide down from the rainforest canopy, they come down to i glide down from the rainforest. canopy, they come down to one particular— canopy, they come down to one particular pond _ canopy, they come down to one particular pond in— canopy, they come down to one particular pond in the _ canopy, they come down to one particular pond in the rainforestj particular pond in the rainforest will stop— particular pond in the rainforest will stop up— particular pond in the rainforest will stop up to _ particular pond in the rainforest will stop up to 10,000 - particular pond in the rainforest will stop up to 10,000 of- particular pond in the rainforest will stop up to 10,000 of theml particular pond in the rainforest . will stop up to 10,000 of them can come _ will stop up to 10,000 of them can come down — will stop up to 10,000 of them can come down to— will stop up to 10,000 of them can come down to breed _ will stop up to 10,000 of them can come down to breed so— will stop up to 10,000 of them can come down to breed so it - will stop up to 10,000 of them can come down to breed so it is - will stop up to 10,000 of them can| come down to breed so it is chaotic, frogs _ come down to breed so it is chaotic, frogs everywhere. _ come down to breed so it is chaotic, frogs everywhere. do _ come down to breed so it is chaotic, frogs everywhere-— frogs everywhere. do you think kermit was _ frogs everywhere. do you think kermit was modelled _ frogs everywhere. do you think kermit was modelled on - frogs everywhere. do you think kermit was modelled on this i frogs everywhere. do you think- kermit was modelled on this rock? it looks similar. you _ kermit was modelled on this rock? it looks similar. you have _ kermit was modelled on this rock? it looks similar. you have predicted - kermit was modelled on this rock? it looks similar. you have predicted to| looks similar. you have predicted to see where it — looks similar. you have predicted to see where it is _ looks similar. you have predicted to see where it is going _ looks similar. you have predicted to see where it is going to _ looks similar. you have predicted to see where it is going to land - looks similar. you have predicted to see where it is going to land to - looks similar. you have predicted to see where it is going to land to get| see where it is going to land to get those shops. brute see where it is going to land to get those shops-— those shops. we worked with this amazin: those shops. we worked with this amazing scientist who _ those shops. we worked with this amazing scientist who has - those shops. we worked with this | amazing scientist who has studied these _ amazing scientist who has studied these frogs — amazing scientist who has studied these frogs fit _ amazing scientist who has studied these frogs fit five _ amazing scientist who has studied these frogs fit five years, - amazing scientist who has studied these frogs fit five years, he - amazing scientist who has studied these frogs fit five years, he did i these frogs fit five years, he did his phd— these frogs fit five years, he did his phd and _ these frogs fit five years, he did his phd and then _ these frogs fit five years, he did his phd and then and _ these frogs fit five years, he did his phd and then and he - these frogs fit five years, he did his phd and then and he was - these frogs fit five years, he did i his phd and then and he was with these frogs fit five years, he did - his phd and then and he was with us all the _ his phd and then and he was with us all the time. — his phd and then and he was with us all the time-— all the time. this is like a frog ort . i all the time. this is like a frog orgy- i didn't— all the time. this is like a frog orgy. i didn't know _ all the time. this is like a frog orgy. i didn't know if - all the time. this is like a frog orgy. i didn't know if we - all the time. this is like a frog orgy. i didn't know if we couldj all the time. this is like a frog - orgy. i didn't know if we could say that on tv- _ orgy. i didn't know if we could say that on tv- i _ orgy. i didn't know if we could say that on tv. iwill— orgy. i didn't know if we could say that on tv. i will get _ orgy. i didn't know if we could say that on tv. i will get in _ orgy. i didn't know if we could say that on tv. i will get in trouble, i that on tv. i will get in trouble, don't worry- _ that on tv. i will get in trouble, don't worry. the _ that on tv. i will get in trouble, don't worry. the males - that on tv. i will get in trouble, don't worry. the males were . don't worry. the males were desperate — don't worry. the males were desperate to _ don't worry. the males were desperate to make - don't worry. the males were desperate to make so - don't worry. the males were desperate to make so they l don't worry. the males were i desperate to make so they are fighting — desperate to make so they are fighting over— desperate to make so they are fighting over the _ desperate to make so they are fighting over the females - desperate to make so they are fighting over the females so i desperate to make so they are . fighting over the females so they fi-ht fighting over the females so they fight and — fighting over the females so they fight and fall— fighting over the females so they fight and fall into _ fighting over the females so they fight and fall into the _ fighting over the females so they fight and fall into the water - fighting over the females so they. fight and fall into the water below. let fight and fall into the water below. let me _ fight and fall into the water below. let me take — fight and fall into the water below. let me take you _ fight and fall into the water below. let me take you back _ fight and fall into the water below. let me take you back under- fight and fall into the water below. let me take you back under water. those sequences underwater, hours and hours. it is one thing being in and hours. it is one thing being in a difficult place with airbus when you are under water, how long can you are under water, how long can you stay under water on one shot just waiting? {lin you stay under water on one shot just waiting?— you stay under water on one shot just waiting? on the play dead fish se . uence just waiting? on the play dead fish sequence we _ just waiting? on the play dead fish sequence we spent _ just waiting? on the play dead fish sequence we spent 150 _ just waiting? on the play dead fish sequence we spent 150 hours - sequence we spent 150 hours underwater in total and we were diving _ underwater in total and we were diving on — underwater in total and we were diving on rebreather units meaning we could _ diving on rebreather units meaning we could dive six or seven hours per day. we could dive six or seven hours per da . ., . . we could dive six or seven hours per da . ., ., ., ., , ., day. you are under water for six or seven hours _ day. you are under water for six or seven hours per— day. you are under water for six or seven hours per day? _ day. you are under water for six or seven hours per day? you - day. you are under water for six or seven hours per day? you are - day. you are under water for six or seven hours per day? you arejust| seven hours per day? you are 'ust waitint , seven hours per day? you are 'ust waning. just fl seven hours per day? you are 'ust waning. just sat fl seven hours per day? you are 'ust waiting, just sat there. i seven hours per day? you are 'ust waiting, just sat there. trying h seven hours per day? you are just waiting, just sat there. trying to . waiting, 'ust sat there. trying to sta waiting, just sat there. trying to sta still. waiting, just sat there. trying to stay still. then _ waiting, just sat there. trying to stay still. then you _ waiting, just sat there. trying to stay still. then you have - waiting, just sat there. trying to stay still. then you have the - stay still. then you have the currents- — stay still. then you have the currents. is _ stay still. then you have the currents. is that _ stay still. then you have the currents. is that healthy? i stay still. then you have the l currents. is that healthy? i... stay still. then you have the i currents. is that healthy? i... i don't know! — currents. is that healthy? i... i don't know! you _ currents. is that healthy? i... i don't know! you are _ currents. is that healthy? i... i don't know! you are getting i currents. is that healthy? i... i. don't know! you are getting lots currents. is that healthy? i... i- don't know! you are getting lots of oxygen— don't know! you are getting lots of oxygen so— don't know! you are getting lots of oxygen so it is properly good for your— oxygen so it is properly good for your skin — oxygen so it is properly good for your skin or something. laughter the whole point is you are not moving because you want to blend in best you can. moving because you want to blend in best you can-— best you can. what is really hard to do when you _ best you can. what is really hard to do when you have _ best you can. what is really hard to do when you have a _ best you can. what is really hard to do when you have a bit of - best you can. what is really hard to do when you have a bit of current. l do when you have a bit of current. we were _ do when you have a bit of current. we were not— do when you have a bit of current. we were not that deep in that particular situation, may be a few metres. _ particular situation, may be a few metres. so— particular situation, may be a few metres, so you have the movement on the surface. _ metres, so you have the movement on the surface, as well. it is a real skill— the surface, as well. it is a real skill for— the surface, as well. it is a real skill for the _ the surface, as well. it is a real skill for the camera operator to even _ skill for the camera operator to eveniust— skill for the camera operator to evenjust to stay skill for the camera operator to even just to stay still and get the shots _ even just to stay still and get the shots and — even just to stay still and get the shots and not scare the fish. so many— shots and not scare the fish. so many things. shots and not scare the fish. so many things-— shots and not scare the fish. so man thins. , ., ., , , many things. they are not disguised as marine creatures _ many things. they are not disguised as marine creatures in _ many things. they are not disguised as marine creatures in any - many things. they are not disguised as marine creatures in any way. i many things. they are not disguised | as marine creatures in any way. they are not. i wasn't _ as marine creatures in any way. they are not. i wasn't on _ as marine creatures in any way. they are not. i wasn't on this _ as marine creatures in any way. they are not. i wasn't on this shoot, but you just _ are not. i wasn't on this shoot, but you just -- — are not. i wasn't on this shoot, but you just -- out _ are not. i wasn't on this shoot, but you just -- out the _ are not. i wasn't on this shoot, but you just —— out the fish _ are not. i wasn't on this shoot, but you just —— out the fish get - are not. i wasn't on this shoot, but you just —— out the fish get very. you just —— out the fish get very used _ you just —— out the fish get very used to— you just —— out the fish get very used to the _ you just —— out the fish get very used to the camera _ you just —— out the fish get very used to the camera operators i you just —— out the fish get very- used to the camera operators being there _ used to the camera operators being there they— used to the camera operators being there they are — used to the camera operators being there they are not _ used to the camera operators being there they are not bothered. - used to the camera operators being there they are not bothered. his i there they are not bothered. always, amazing pictures. there they are not bothered. as always, amazing pictures. that| there they are not bothered. as. always, amazing pictures. that is fantastic. abi, _ always, amazing pictures. that is fantastic. abi, charlotte, - always, amazing pictures. that is fantastic. abi, charlotte, thank. always, amazing pictures. that is. fantastic. abi, charlotte, thank you so much. love hearing the secrets. planet earth: freshwater will air this sunday on bbc one at 6:15pm. you're watching bbc breakfast, it's 8:59. live from southern israel. this is bbc news. the hamas—controlled health ministry in gaza says israel is carrying out air strikes on or near at least three hospitals. the largest is reportedly surrounded by israeli forces. the us welcomes israel's agreement for daily military pauses, allowing civilians to leave northern gaza along two humanitarian corridors. i'm frankie mccamley in london. also in the programme... there are growing calls for the uk prime minister to sack his home secretary who accused police of bias over pro—palestinian marches. and surgeons in new york perform the world's first complete human eye transplant. welcome to bbc news live from southern israel close to the gaza strip where ms well closes and we understand from one of the main hospitals in gaza, al—shifa hospital, the largest hospital in the city. we will come to that and military developments in a moment. to start this hour, let's talk about how president biden has been welcoming announcements by israel a four hour humanitarian pause to come in daily into some areas of northern gaza with advance warning

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