all swear clouds gathered without burke's —— outbreaks of rain. the full forecast coming up here on breakfast. it's saturday the 30th of september. our main story. a teenage girl who died after a school bus crashed on the motorway in merseyside has been named as 15—year—old jessica baker. she was killed — along with the coach driver — in the collision on the m53 at morning rush hour yesterday. several other children were injured. our correspondent helena wilkinson has the latest. this is a 15—year—old jessica baker, one of �*s schoolchildren on the bus skilled in the crash. the driver who has been named online as stephen shrimpton also died. more than 50 children were on their way to school when their journey children were on their way to school when theirjourney ended in tragedy. this is the aftermath of the crash on the m53 on merseyside. the coach overturned. it happened just after eight 0'clock yesterday morning. a major incident was declared. police, ambulance and fire crews were quickly sent to the scene. condolences for their family and friends at this tragic time. we are offering support to both families and working with schools and the councils to ensure that necessary trauma support is in place for the children on the bus. the 14-year-old bo is also children on the bus. the 14-year-old boy is also being _ children on the bus. the 14-year-old boy is also being treated _ children on the bus. the 14-year-old boy is also being treated for- children on the bus. the 14-year-old boy is also being treated for life - boy is also being treated for life changing injuries. 0ther boy is also being treated for life changing injuries. other children were also injured. 5c} changing injuries. other children were also injured.— changing injuries. other children were also injured. were also in'ured. 50 children were transported— were also injured. 50 children were transnorted to _ were also injured. 50 children were transported to a _ were also injured. 50 children were transported to a casualty _ were also injured. 50 children were transported to a casualty clearing l transported to a casualty clearing centre of the emergency service training centre. of those 50, 39 have now been discharged. the remainder have been taken to hospitalfor remainder have been taken to hospital for further treatment. the children were going to two schools. the boys to a grange grammar school and the girls to west kirby grammar school. they have been provided with specialist trauma support. so are other children from both schools who were on buses travelling in convoy with the one that crashed and saw what happened. police have appealed to anyone who has — cam footage to contact them urgently as investigators establish how the crash happened. a crash which has left two families devastated. schoolchildren injured and so many locally traumatised by what they experienced and what they saw. jessica baker was a pupil at west kirby grammar school and our reporter is there. more information is emerging about the two people who lost their lives. yes. is emerging about the two people who lost their lives.— lost their lives. yes. flowers have been left outside _ lost their lives. yes. flowers have been left outside the entrance - lost their lives. yes. flowers have been left outside the entrance ofl been left outside the entrance of west kirby grammar school here. one message reads thoughts are with the family. jessica baker was a pupil here, she was on that coach that was travelling in convoy and overturned on the m53 motorway. there were students from another local grammar school on board as well and a young boy was left with serious life changing injuries. we know now that the driver has been named online as stephen shrimpton. his family have posted a message on a go find me page. they say that he died as a result of medical issues at the wheel and leaves a wife and two young children who will now grow up without their beloved father. investigations are under way. we know the family liaising offices of supporting the families of those involved have children from both schools will be given specialist support. the school has a wide catchment so a number of communities have been affected and they will be given support as well. as far as the motorway is concerned, that has reopened this morning and as we were travelling here we could see it has reopened but police are clearly appealing for witnesses and — cam footage. appealing for witnesses and - cam footaae. . ~ appealing for witnesses and - cam footaae. ., ~ y., , appealing for witnesses and - cam footaae. . ~ ,, , . appealing for witnesses and - cam footaae. ., ~' ,, , . , footage. thank you very much. it is now 6:05 and we _ footage. thank you very much. it is now 6:05 and we have details - footage. thank you very much. it is now 6:05 and we have details on i footage. thank you very much. it is| now 6:05 and we have details on an important medical breakthrough? thousands of men every year who undergo treatment for prostate cancer could safely be given far less radiotherapy according to a major international trial. the study found that radiotherapy doses can be cut by three quarters meaning less pressure on the nhs. here is our medical editor fergus walsh. there was no pain — medical editor fergus walsh. there was no pain or— medical editor fergus walsh. there was no pain or inconvenience. - medical editor fergus walsh. there was no pain or inconvenience. the | was no pain or inconvenience. the treatment was just so swift and easy. treatment was 'ust so swift and eas . . . treatment was 'ust so swift and eas . ., , ., ., , treatment was 'ust so swift and eas . .,, ., ., , ., easy. there was no downside to it. alistair kennedy _ easy. there was no downside to it. alistair kennedy rose _ easy. there was no downside to it. alistair kennedy rose feels - alistair kennedy rose feels extremely fortunate to have had his prostate cancer treated in just five sessions of radiotherapy. eight years on, the 64 is still cancer free. it years on, the 64 is still cancer free. . . years on, the 64 is still cancer free. ., , ., .,, years on, the 64 is still cancer free. .,, ., .,, years on, the 64 is still cancer free. ., , ., ., , ., free. it was almost as if i had never had — free. it was almost as if i had never had prostate _ free. it was almost as if i had never had prostate cancer - free. it was almost as if i had - never had prostate cancer because i did not have any symptoms to start with and the treatment was so easy, ultimately so very effective. he with and the treatment was so easy, ultimately so very effective.- ultimately so very effective. he was treated here — ultimately so very effective. he was treated here at _ ultimately so very effective. he was treated here at the _ ultimately so very effective. he was treated here at the royal— ultimately so very effective. he was treated here at the royal marsden i treated here at the royal marsden hospital in london as part of a pivotal trial involving nearly 900 men at 38 hospitals in the uk, ireland and canada. all the men had medium risk prostate cancer which had not spread. afterfive medium risk prostate cancer which had not spread. after five years, 96% of the men who had five high doses of multiple beam radiotherapy were cancer free. doses of multiple beam radiotherapy were cancerfree. compared doses of multiple beam radiotherapy were cancer free. compared to 95% who had at least 20 doses of standard radiotherapy. both groups had low side effect. the big area is the prostate gland. the medical director of the royal marsden led the international trial. for him, this is a big moment.— the international trial. for him, this is a big moment. when i got the results i was — this is a big moment. when i got the results i was blown _ this is a big moment. when i got the results i was blown away. _ this is a big moment. when i got the results i was blown away. it - this is a big moment. when i got the results i was blown away. it was - results i was blown away. it was probably one of the best days in my career. i think it is fantastic news for patients and brilliant news for the nhs. so what are the implications? i think it will be an enormous change and i suspect the nhs, instead of getting 20 doses we could get five and if we extrapolate that that is hundreds of thousands of doses of radiotherapy that will be saved and in the system that is under pressure that will be very welcome. �* ., ~' , under pressure that will be very welcome. �* ., ~ ,~ ., , welcome. another likely change is less use of — welcome. another likely change is less use of hormone _ welcome. another likely change is less use of hormone therapy - welcome. another likely change is less use of hormone therapy in . welcome. another likely change is| less use of hormone therapy in the future. none of the men on the trials given any and so was spared the side—effects like extreme fatigue, hot flushes and low libido. it will be a better experience for thousands of men with prostate cancer every year. they will be able to have all their radiotherapy treatment in just one week and without the need for hormone therapy. alistair�*s prostate cancer was picked up after a simple blood test. he wants all men over 50 to get themselves checked. fergus walsh, bbc news. police in the us have charged a former gang leader with murdering the rapper tupac shakur 27 years ago. he was killed in las vegas in a drive—by shooting. 0ur correspondent has the latest. tupac shakur is still one of the bestselling and most influential rappers of all time. he took off after the release of his debut album in 1991 and five years later he was gunned down with his career cut short. shot on the lost vegas strip while waiting at a red light. hit by bullets fired from a passing cadillac. six days later he died. now, after 27 years, police have finally arrested a suspect. z? finally arrested a suspect. 27 ears. finally arrested a suspect. 2 years. 27 years. for 27 finally arrested a suspect. 2t years. 27 years. for 27 years the family of tupac shakur have been waiting forjustice. we are here today to announce the arrest of 60—year—old dwayne keith davis a.k.a. actor mac for the murder of a. k.a. actor mac for the murder of tupac a.k.a. actor mac for the murder of tupac shakur. he a. k.a. actor mac for the murder of tunac shakur-— a. k.a. actor mac for the murder of tupac shakur. he was the leader of the can: tupac shakur. he was the leader of the gang who _ tupac shakur. he was the leader of the gang who was _ tupac shakur. he was the leader of the gang who was feuding - tupac shakur. he was the leader of the gang who was feuding with - the gang who was feuding with death—row records, the record label of tupac shakur. police say it started at this fight. tupac shakur and his record producer kicked a rival gang member. they are then accused, keefe d is accused of a plan to retaliate. fast forward to july this year and police raided keefe d's home. he is the man on the right. the case had been revived in recent years using his own words about the incident published in a memoir. the musical legacy of tupac shakur was honoured earlier this sha kur was honoured earlier this year at shakur was honoured earlier this year at the hollywood walk of fame. but question surrounding his death have also gripped his fans who may soon get their answers. two people were taken to hospital after the flying scotsman steam train was involved in a crash with another heritage train in the cairngorms. the low—speed collision took place in the scottish highlands. people were treated at the scene and police said no injuries were serious. a man in his 60s has been arrested by police investigating the cutting down of a famous sycamore gap tree in england. the landmark was filled overnight on wednesday. a 16—year—old boy was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage and has been released on bail. rail passengers face more disruption todayis passengers face more disruption today is around 12,000 train drivers stage their latest one—day strike over pay and conditions. the fresh wave of action from the union means fewer than half of trains will be operating next week. the union is also staging an overtime ban. local councils in england could be curbed from introducing 20 mile—per—hour speed limits on the roads, one of several policies to be announced by the government ahead of the conservative conference in manchester this weekend. 0ur political correspondent reports. rishi sunak has been doing more to set out his political direction of travel recently. defying expectations the conservatives held on the uxbridge by—election injuly by opposing the extension of the low emission zone. and is now signally... . emission zone. and is now signally---_ emission zone. and is now siunall... ., signally... . most people are caettin signally... . most people are getting around _ signally... . most people are getting around in _ signally... . most people are getting around in cars - signally... . most people are getting around in cars and i signally... . most people are getting around in cars and it| signally. .. . most people are | getting around in cars and it is important when they do that the roads are maintained and we should invest more in maintenance and potholes. in invest more in maintenance and otholes. ., , potholes. in an interview rishi sunak is travelling further - sunak is travelling further down that road, claiming he has slammed the brakes on the war on motorists. he wants to limit the ability of local councils to introduce blanket 20 mph speed limits and reduce the number of 24—hour day bus lanes and is reviewing low traffic neighbourhoods in residential areas. conservatives and councils have imposed such restrictions but with people signing a petition against such an expansion, the government sees a political opportunity in england. rishi sunak is setting out his political dividing lines with labour ahead of his party conference this weekend. he hopes to put his political opponents on the spot challenging them to reverse his plans and will see the same approach adopted across a range of policy areas as we move closer to the next general election. but not everyone saw the political mileage in the plans. i saw the political mileage in the lans. .. :: saw the political mileage in the lans, ~' i , ., ., saw the political mileage in the lans. ~ :: , ., ., , plans. i think 20 miles an hour is aood. it plans. i think 20 miles an hour is good- it is— plans. i think 20 miles an hour is good- it is a _ plans. i think 20 miles an hour is good. it is a lot _ plans. i think 20 miles an hour is good. it is a lot safer. _ plans. i think 20 miles an hour is good. it is a lot safer. i - plans. i think 20 miles an hour is good. it is a lot safer. i have - good. it is a lot safer. i have young children and i am for a 20 mile—per—hour speed limit. 30 is mile-per-hour speed limit. 30 is fine but 20 _ mile-per-hour speed limit. 30 is fine but 20 will _ mile-per-hour speed limit. 30 is fine but 20 will be _ mile-per-hour speed limit. 30 is fine but 20 will be a _ mile-per-hour speed limit. 30 is fine but 20 will be a problem. i mile-per-hour speed limit. 30 is. fine but 20 will be a problem. and labour fine but 20 will be a problem. fific labour questioned the fine but 20 will be a problem. fific labour questioned the prime minister �*s priorities. labour questioned the prime minister 's riorities. ~ ., 's priorities. while there are issues to — 's priorities. while there are issues to address _ 's priorities. while there are issues to address for - 's priorities. while there are issues to address for drivers 's priorities. while there are l issues to address for drivers i think many people will be shocked that this should be the priority when people are really struggling with the cost of living and struggling to access basic public services. rishi sunak will drive to manchester today. there is a train strike. and with many voters using cars every day he hopes to gain some ground on labour. find cars every day he hopes to gain some ground on labour.— ground on labour. and we will be s-ueakin ground on labour. and we will be speaking more — ground on labour. and we will be speaking more about _ ground on labour. and we will be speaking more about this - ground on labour. and we will be speaking more about this with . ground on labour. and we will be| speaking more about this with the transport secretary mark harper at 8.30. energy firms are holding onto too much of their customers money in the form of account credit according to the chairman of the energy select committee. figures seen by money box reveal total credit held in the first few months of this year was £18.1 billion. credit on energy bills is not a bad thing. —— £8.1 billion. you pay more in summer two build up and news that money in winter. unless you end up paying too much and then struggled to get it back. it much and then struggled to get it back. . much and then struggled to get it back. , ., ., , , ., ., back. it is laughable. it should not take years. _ back. it is laughable. it should not take years. days — back. it is laughable. it should not take years, days of— back. it is laughable. it should not take years, days of my _ back. it is laughable. it should not take years, days of my time, - back. it is laughable. it should not take years, days of my time, a - back. it is laughable. it should not. take years, days of my time, a month and a half to get the money back. it is a lot of money and they are obviously reading from a script, they make me work hard to get my own money back. that they make me work hard to get my own money back-— money back. that does not make sense. in the _ money back. that does not make sense. in the first _ money back. that does not make sense. in the first three - money back. that does not make sense. in the first three months. money back. that does not make | sense. in the first three months of this year energy suppliers held more than eight pounds of customers money in the form of credit on people's accounts. a figure which, according to one senior mp, dwarfs the £2 million of debt suppliers were owed over the same period. i am staggered- _ over the same period. i am staggered. we _ over the same period. i am staggered. we know - over the same period. i am staggered. we know the i over the same period. i —ii staggered. we know the energy debt is 1.8 billion and this is 4.5 times greater. it is a huge figure that dwarfs any debts owed to the energy companies collectively because customers, collectively, giving them about 8.1 billion and that is quite the fund they have, perhaps unwittingly, and then it pans out over the entire year but for quarter four and quarter one, these are colossal figures and they dwarf the debt. , . ,, ~ ,, ., debt. energy uk which speaks for su liers debt. energy uk which speaks for suppliers said _ debt. energy uk which speaks for suppliers said that _ debt. energy uk which speaks for suppliers said that the _ debt. energy uk which speaks for suppliers said that the time - debt. energy uk which speaks for suppliers said that the time the i suppliers said that the time the credit was held prices were uncertain and the level of government help was unknown and it is not meaningful to compare credit and debt. if customers think they pay too much they can ask for direct albert to be amended and they have the right to have any credit refunded in a timely fashion. if customers are still unhappy they can complain to the energy ombudsman. take a look at these pictures. a state of emergency has been declared in new york after torrential downpours triggered flash floods, turning streets into rivers. now, in some places more than ten centimetres of rain fell in just a few hours. extraordinary pictures their mac from new york. time to checkin their mac from new york. time to check in with matt, hopefully the weather closer to home is not as extreme? clear mac yes, one of the wettest days on record in new york. we have got some rain to come later for some of you, not everybody. it is a dry start, if you are about to head out, nothing too much of concern. a bit cooler than it has been over the past few mornings. this is the weather system which will eventually bring rain across the central parts of the uk. the bottom of scotland, the far south—east of england towards the channel islands, should stay dry throughout. just a few isolated showers in the west. best of the sunshine to the north and east, crowd increasing through the morning, then into the afternoon, let's focus on the rain. by the end of the morning it is across a good part of mid—north wales and northern ireland, pushing of the isle of man into south—west scotland, north—west england and parts of the midlands as we go into the afternoon. either way, north—east scotland, a drier day, a less breezy day than yesterday. to the south—east, the channel islands, it will stay dry as well, with some sunshine and highs of around 21 or 22. turning increasingly misty across the west, some of the rain, that is coming and going for northern england and north—west wales, it will be heavy at times, parts of scotland and northern ireland, clearing skies here, it is going to feel increasingly muggy tonight, some in the south—west not going below 20. that will lead into quite a humid day across many southern and eastern areas tomorrow, the winds coming in from the south are a south—westerly direction. still, more rain to come tomorrow for parts of northern ireland and parts of wales. that rain pushing its way south, so lancashire, part of kerrigan, brightening up through the afternoon. rain pushing into the midlands and the south—west, turning lighter and patchy. sunshine in the south and east. it is a warmer start to october, still feeling pleasant, sunny spells as well for scotland and northern ireland. 0ne sunny spells as well for scotland and northern ireland. one or two match hours he had to come through sunday afternoon. that heat we have been feeling through the south—east on sunday, high pressure across much of central and southern europe, we will be dragging up another weather system as we go through into monday, and that is across parts of south—west england and wales, where we could see some of the heaviest rain developing later. still lots of showers in north—west scotland. blustery wind to go with it, sunshine here, northern ireland and northern in one, some thundery showers towards the south end of the east, where again, temperatures could be into the low 20s. as we go through into the rest of next week, lots of dry weather coming across southern areas, there will also be rain at times, but wetter for the north let's ta ke let's take a look at the papers. the cap mac miller devotes its front page tojessica baker, the 15—year—old who died in the school bus crash on merseyside yesterday. the teenager and the driver of the coach were killed when a vehicle overturned on the m 53. and the conservatives are eyeing a host of driver friendly policies ahead of the next election. the prime minister criticised low traffic neighbourhoods and said he is slamming the breaks on the war on motorists. 0nto the times, the times has interviewed the chancellor ahead of the conservative party conference which is due to begin tomorrow. jeremy hunt has pledged to end what he calls a vicious cycle of ever rising taxes, by reforming the benefit system and tackling the spiralling cost of public services. we finish with a picture, mike, you can help us with this. it is a great picture. hundreds of thousands of golf fans descending on rome for the ryder cup. the fans are very much part of the story, aren't they? do you know what is going on here? yes. you know what is going on here? yes, i do it. you know what is going on here? yes, i do it- these — you know what is going on here? yes, i do it. these are _ you know what is going on here? i'eis i do it. these are american you know what is going on here? is: i do it. these are american fans, dressed as astronauts. some of the fans we saw supporting team usa were dressed as eagles and astronauts, but what happened, propelled them into space, you know why. because europe were so, the costumes looking so full on, the face of that american fan, they were blown away. team europe or totally dominant. so the european fans were absolutely delighted with their pizza huts and roman centurion costumes. you can understand a perplexed look on the american faces. yes, the horn is blunted. they might as well have been thrown to the lions, it was that dominant, in the colosseum in rome. 0ver300,000 that dominant, in the colosseum in rome. over 300,000 fans over three days, huge crowds. probably some saw european heads this morning, the way they were celebrating. nobody expected such dominance. we know the americans have never beaten the europeans on home soil for 30 years, and last time, obviously, it was the other way around, in the us. so how much of a surprise is this? ids, around, in the us. so how much of a surprise is this?— surprise is this? a big surprise. there was _ surprise is this? a big surprise. there was this _ surprise is this? a big surprise. there was this theory _ surprise is this? a big surprise. there was this theory that - surprise is this? a big surprise. there was this theory that the i there was this theory that the american team were largely resting before this tournament, because the europeans were busy playing in tournaments, so the phrase rusted rather than arrested has come to mind. —— rested —— rested —— rested. clear mac and that is a brilliant shot, isn't it? i mean, they could not believe how dominant it was. the second day is under way, we were really reflecting on this huge, dominant day by europe. the us are facing a mountain to climb. europe is my clade of five point is a record equalling and the americans failed to register a single win in the day. that has never happened before, as any swiss reports. it was the morning — before, as any swiss reports. it was the morning rush _ before, as any swiss reports. it was the morning rush hour— before, as any swiss reports. it was the morning rush hour in _ before, as any swiss reports. it was the morning rush hour in rome, a l the morning rush hour in rome, a 6am tee stampede as fans charged to the first for that unique ryder cup atmosphere. the first for that unique ryder cup atmosphere-— first for that unique ryder cup atmosphere. first for that unique ryder cup atmoshere. �* .., , ., atmosphere. the americans are full of themselves, _ atmosphere. the americans are full of themselves, there _ atmosphere. the americans are full of themselves, there are _ atmosphere. the americans are full of themselves, there are more - of themselves, there are more europeans, we are louder and better and we are going to win! thea;r europeans, we are louder and better and we are going to win!— and we are going to win! they have all the noise. _ and we are going to win! they have all the noise. we _ and we are going to win! they have all the noise. we have _ and we are going to win! they have all the noise. we have a good - all the noise. we have a good player. we will talk with our shots. but that _ player. we will talk with our shots. but that american confidence was soon silenced.— but that american confidence was soon silenced. , , ., , soon silenced. representing europe, john ram tirrell _ soon silenced. representing europe, john ram tyrrell has. _ soon silenced. representing europe, john ram tyrrell has. roared - soon silenced. representing europe, john ram tyrrell has. roared on - soon silenced. representing europe, john ram tyrrell has. roared on by. john ram tyrrell has. roared on by theirfans. — john ram tyrrell has. roared on by theirfans. it— john ram tyrrell has. roared on by their fans, it was _ john ram tyrrell has. roared on by their fans, it was europe _ john ram tyrrell has. roared on by their fans, it was europe that - their fans, it was europe that showed the way in spectacular fashion. g ., ~.,. showed the way in spectacular fashion. y ., ., showed the way in spectacular fashion. g ., ., , , fashion. my word x mac and inspired rahm helped — fashion. my word x mac and inspired rahm helped to _ fashion. my word x mac and inspired rahm helped to bag _ fashion. my word x mac and inspired rahm helped to bag the _ fashion. my word x mac and inspired rahm helped to bag the first - fashion. my word x mac and inspired rahm helped to bag the first point . rahm helped to bag the first point point. rahm helped to bag the first point oint. . ., ., ., ., . ., point. victor holman gave the crowd len point. victor holman gave the crowd plenty to shout _ point. victor holman gave the crowd plenty to shout about, _ point. victor holman gave the crowd plenty to shout about, and - point. victor holman gave the crowd plenty to shout about, and once - point. victor holman gave the crowd | plenty to shout about, and once rory michael roy showed his pinpoint precision, europe had won all four mac opening matches for the first time in ryder cup history. and come the afternoon, there was more joy for europe, from the magnificent matt fitzpatrick. even rory mcavoy could only applaud. while the us had their chances, the other three matches were all tired. justin rose dramatically denying them on the final hole. not a single win for the us. forthe final hole. not a single win for the us. for the hosts, final hole. not a single win for the us. forthe hosts, it final hole. not a single win for the us. for the hosts, it could hardly have gone better. and so europe and the first day here with a five—point lead. the ryder cup is still a long way from being one, but it is some start. any swiss, bbc news, rome. anybody writing off the chances of new zealand at the rugby world cup will need to rethink. they have announced themselves in real style. scotland on action later against romania, one of the big matches, one of three games today. everybody will have noticed what was happening in lyon, because the all blacks demolished in italy side who some thought might give the three—time champions a scare. new zealand running 14 tries in total a 96—17 win. in rugby league it will be an emotional day forjames roby, who will play his final home game for saints when they host warrington in this afternoon's eliminator. last night, hull kr got their revenge after losing to the leopards in the challenge cup final earlier this year, now hull kr beat them in the super league eliminated 26. victory puts them into the semifinals, where they will face wigan warriors or catalans dragons, and they arejust one match away from their first—ever appearance in super league grand final. worrying times for sheffield after the owner released a statement complaining about his treatment by disgruntled fans, saying that he was not going to put any more money into the club the time being because of this. and sadly for the owls, things and sadly for the owls, things are no better on the pitch. bottom of the table before they were thrashed last night at home, 3—0 by sunderland. player of the match was jack clark, got another two. sutherland up to fourth. some big boxing news, a fight between tyson fury and 0leksander usyk 0leksander usyk 0leksander usyk has been signed and will take place in saudi arabia. the fight may have to wait until next year, when it does take place it will be the first undisputed heavyweight bout since 1999. fury is currently preparing to face mma star francis in ghana in a nontitle fight in riyadh next month. now, you might remember that back in 2021, a certain rower, frank rothwell, he was a businessman who became a rower, he became the oldest person to complete the solo across the atlantic rowing challenge. he was 70. since then he has had major open heart surgery and has taken on his favourite football club. he is going to smash his own record and raise another million pounds towards finding a cure for alzheimer's, which is closer than before to his own heart. his boat is now on its way to the canary islands for the challenge. before he left, i went to see him training. ready to make waves again. the 73—year—old who is always in fine voice. i’m waves again. the 73-year-old who is always in fine voice.— always in fine voice. i'm the kind of au always in fine voice. i'm the kind of guy who will _ always in fine voice. i'm the kind of guy who will never _ always in fine voice. i'm the kind of guy who will never settle - always in fine voice. i'm the kind i of guy who will never settle down! as he was back injanuary 2021, after spending months at sea rowing alone nonstop across the atlantic, and dealing with the worst of the ocean could throw at him. making history, raising £1.1 million for alzheimer's research. since then, he survived a life—saving open—heart surgery and bought his local football club, 0ldham athletic, in the national league, where he is a very inspirational chairman. do we need three points this weekend? we need three points this weekend? - certainly do. so tonight early to bed, so you are fully rested for tomorrow-— tomorrow. he is such a good inspiration- _ tomorrow. he is such a good inspiration. i— tomorrow. he is such a good inspiration. i look— tomorrow. he is such a good inspiration. i look at - tomorrow. he is such a good inspiration. i look at him, i. tomorrow. he is such a good i inspiration. i look at him, i also want _ inspiration. i look at him, i also want to he _ inspiration. i look at him, i also want to be able to do these things, you know. — want to be able to do these things, you know, when i am that age. this winter frank— you know, when i am that age. this winter frank will _ you know, when i am that age. ti 3 winter frank will not only be waving goodbye to his team. 0ver winter frank will not only be waving goodbye to his team. over the busy christmas period. but also his wife and family again, as he gets ready to row solo across the atlantic once more. aiming to beat his own world record. ., . , , ., record. owning a football club is a bigger challenge _ record. owning a football club is a bigger challenge than _ record. owning a football club is a bigger challenge than running - record. owning a football club is a bigger challenge than running an i bigger challenge than running an ocean, because i've got an element of control of the rowing of the ocean, but with the football club, there are so many other things that i have no control over. i there are so many other things that i have no control over.— i have no control over. i knew when he came in, — i have no control over. i knew when he came in. he _ i have no control over. i knew when he came in, he looked _ i have no control over. i knew when he came in, he looked really- i have no control over. i knew when he came in, he looked really well. he came in, he looked really well compared to what i thought he would. mentally and physically. some people came in— mentally and physically. some people came in and they were quite struggling, but he was like, within two hours. — struggling, but he was like, within two hours, he was throwing the grandchildren in the swimming pool. he has— grandchildren in the swimming pool. he hasjust _ grandchildren in the swimming pool. he hasjust rowed the atlantic, you know _ he hasjust rowed the atlantic, you know he _ he hasjust rowed the atlantic, you know. he soon recovered from it. i knew _ know. he soon recovered from it. i knew he _ know. he soon recovered from it. i knew he was missing it, in a way. and i_ knew he was missing it, in a way. and i think— knew he was missing it, in a way. and i think it was, you know, raising — and i think it was, you know, raising i~i _ and i think it was, you know, raising 1.1 million, to do it again, it was— raising1.1 million, to do it again, it was on— raising 1.1 million, to do it again, it was on the _ raising 1.1 million, to do it again, it was on the agenda. well, i've done _ it was on the agenda. well, i've done it— it was on the agenda. well, i've done it once, i will see what i can do. if_ done it once, i will see what i can do. if i _ done it once, i will see what i can do. if i can— done it once, i will see what i can do. if i can do— done it once, i will see what i can do, if i can do it again.— done it once, i will see what i can do, if i can do it again. while i am at sea, i do, if i can do it again. while i am at sea. i am _ do, if i can do it again. while i am at sea, i am going _ do, if i can do it again. while i am at sea, i am going to _ do, if i can do it again. while i am at sea, i am going to be _ do, if i can do it again. while i am at sea, i am going to be missing i do, if i can do it again. while i am | at sea, i am going to be missing 13 games, six home games and a seven away games, sojudith will be my representative, won't you? i will away games, so judith will be my representative, won't you? i will be hooks make — representative, won't you? i will be hooks make you — representative, won't you? i will be hooks make you can _ representative, won't you? i will be hooks make you can stand - representative, won't you? i will be hooks make you can stand in, - representative, won't you? i will be hooks make you can stand in, you i representative, won't you? i will be i hooks make you can stand in, you can be hooks make you can stand in, you can he chairman— hooks make you can stand in, you can be chairman of the board meetings. all sinus _ be chairman of the board meetings. all sinus research uk, that is the charity that i am rowing for, they have changed their strapline out to open a quote going for a cure, so i can be part of that, and since i have done it, there have been to make drugs on the market that can slow, can delay its onset.— slow, can delay its onset. when he has had time _ slow, can delay its onset. when he has had time away _ slow, can delay its onset. when he has had time away from _ slow, can delay its onset. when he has had time away from the - slow, can delay its onset. when he l has had time away from the football, frank has been back on the water for training come on hollingsworth lake, north of rochdale. and some sage advice from his grandson, frank junior. . , advice from his grandson, frank junior. ., , ., ., , ., junior. that is going to be harder, he is three _ junior. that is going to be harder, he is three years _ junior. that is going to be harder, he is three years older, _ junior. that is going to be harder, he is three years older, that - junior. that is going to be harder, he is three years older, that will i he is three years older, that will be harder. time flies by, deal with the attacks mac so this is it, for frank poss max second epic crossing of the atlantic, the boat is actually four feet shorter. it is li . hter, actually four feet shorter. it is lighter. but — actually four feet shorter. it is lighter, but crucially _ actually four feet shorter. it is lighter, but crucially quicker, and frank said his sleeping quarters are better. last time he had a bucket for a toilet. he has upgraded now, he has a luxury. hello, frank x mac what have you got for your toilet? this is a portable bathroom. so it is still a bucket? yes, but it has a seat! . .. . is still a bucket? yes, but it has a seat! ., ~ ., ., , . ,, is still a bucket? yes, but it has a seat! ., ~ ., ., , ., seat! frank had not been back in a boat since — seat! frank had not been back in a boat since finishing _ seat! frank had not been back in a boat since finishing his _ seat! frank had not been back in a boat since finishing his last - boat since finishing his last challenge, but he has not lost his stamina, and at least knows what to expect this time.— expect this time. yes, the biggest thing is missing _ expect this time. yes, the biggest thing is missing family _ expect this time. yes, the biggest thing is missing family and - expect this time. yes, the biggest thing is missing family and your i thing is missing family and your loved ones. judith and myself have been married now for 50, 53 years, and i love her to bits. the been married now for 50, 53 years, and i love her to bits.— and i love her to bits. the last time frank's _ and i love her to bits. the last time frank's fundraising - and i love her to bits. the lastj time frank's fundraising made and i love her to bits. the last l time frank's fundraising made a and i love her to bits. the last - time frank's fundraising made a huge difference to alzheimer's research, which is the driving force behind doing it again, especially after he personally lost a good friend to it this year. mr; personally lost a good friend to it this ear. ~ , ., this year. my friend phil died of alzheimer's _ this year. my friend phil died of alzheimer's this year. - this year. my friend phil died of alzheimer's this year. so - this year. my friend phil died of alzheimer's this year. so it - this year. my friend phil died of alzheimer's this year. so it has | alzheimer's this year. so it has been a real motivation, seeing him deteriorate from the person he was, i loved him to bits, absolutely fantastic relationship we had. the next time frank will see his boat will be in the canary islands, ready for the start in early december. i know how big the waves are and i know how warm it gets and how cold it gets, and the things that you have, the board, and the big seas. the biggest problem will be the wind blowing the wrong way. or no wind at all. , blowing the wrong way. or no wind at all. i ii blowing the wrong way. or no wind at all. i ., i blowing the wrong way. or no wind at all. i .i i �* .i all. there is a boy, i didn't warn ou all. there is a boy, i didn't warn you about _ all. there is a boy, i didn't warn you about that, sorry. _ all. there is a boy, i didn't warn i you about that, sorry. you nearly crashed me _ you about that, sorry. you nearly crashed me expect _ you about that, sorry. you nearly crashed me expect normally - you about that, sorry. you nearlyl crashed me expect normally frank you about that, sorry. you nearly - crashed me expect normally frank has got his eye on his rear view mirror, but thankfully he will not have anybody distracting him on his 3000 mile solo challenge, which this time he hopes to complete within 50 days. for now though he is with his team but off to the canary islands soon to started and do the work again. he is to started and do the work again. he: is extraordinary, he really is. great company.— is extraordinary, he really is. great company. is extraordinary, he really is. great coman . ~ in: i .i great company. 6:33 is the time and we will be back _ great company. 6:33 is the time and we will be back with _ great company. 6:33 is the time and we will be back with the _ great company. 6:33 is the time and we will be back with the headlines i we will be back with the headlines at seven. time now for un— spun world. hello, and thanks for joining me for unspun world here at the bbc�*s london headquarters. the world is in a parlous state, we know that. but supposing the main, the dominant western country, the united states, were to be run by a man who had open contempt for nato, admired vladimir putin and kimjong—un, but seemed to be spoiling for a fight with china. well, according to one opinion poll this week, that man could be ten points ahead ofjoe biden in the opinion polls. well, in one opinion poll, that could easily be an anomaly. yet none of the western governments whose doings i monitor on a daily basis seems to have made the slightest preparation for the possibility that donald trump might very well be back in office in 16 months' time. do me a favour. just get your union guys, your leaders, to endorse me. cheering other that is than to pray it doesn't happen. the odds are still probably slightly against a trump victory, but it would create a massive upheaval, not least in russia's war against ukraine. only three months ago in that war, vladimir putin seemed to be on the ropes as a result of the mutiny by his most effective ally, yevgeny prigozhin. but now... there's lots of distrust and also fear from people who are close enough to mr putin that something that happened to prigozhin could happen to them if they disappoint the big boss. 70 years after women got the vote in mexico the two main candidates at next year's election will, as things stand, both be women. what effect will that have on a country so traditionally macho? there's been a real push to make sure that there is representation from women within politics at all levels. so that is something of a dramatic change. and africa, after the years of hope, is it time to despair again? you have a generation of young men, young women, very frustrated, frustrated with the lack of democracy, frustrated with the growing unemployment. fatally damaged. that was the kind of expression a lot of western commentators and russia experts were using about vladimir putin's leadership back injune, when the violent, unpredictable warlord yevgeny prigozhin staged his apparent coup attempt and his men headed up the road to moscow. it was wishful thinking. prigozhin's plane mysteriously crashed last month and no—one seems to be challenging putin any more. for now anyway. so how stable is his position post prigozhin, i ask famil ismailov, news editor of bbc russian? 0n the surface what we see, president putin has become even stronger. people sort of still support him. he appears here and there, shaking hands and being at very close proximity, which wasn't expected from him since the days of pandemic, of covid pandemic. and secondly, we could see him quite active in trying to shore up russia's reputation with, especially with china, with turkey being quite active in trying to push russia's agenda abroad, but at the same time inside the country. so on the surface, we see that no damage has been done to his reputation. but how do we know it? there's no public opinion polls that we could trust. there's not much that could give us any signs of if the elite is supporting mr putin as much as it used to before prigozhin affair. and we can only guess that there's lots of distrust and also fear from people who are close enough to mr putin that something that happened to prigozhin could happen to them if they disappoint the big boss. we can say that his power is intact. at the moment. at the moment, at least for now. what would threaten that? the only thing that could threaten that would be if we could see... ..combined effort by the russian elite that holds key to the main income of the main russian financial flows inside russia and within russia, like from sales of oil, gas and lots of other incoming assets, money. and also if those people from elite will have enough support within security apparatus in order to provide any possible opposition or any possible threat to putin's power. at the moment, the security apparatus is totally behind mr putin, and the elite are extremely scared. prigozhin was a person who was very close to mr putin, was trusted by mr putin, and all of a sudden the man who was such a close friend, who could just call him directly, dies in such a spectacular way. i do understand why russian elite is so nervous. some people have been saying that if ukraine manages to capture the whole of, or part of, crimea, putin couldn't survive that. what do you think? it sort of doesn't ring true to me. i'll explain why. of course, crimea is a big, it was at least in 2014, a big pet project for mr putin, but so were lots of other things. taking over ukraine in seven days was probably also a pet project. it didn't work and there's nothing wrong with that. as we can see, putin still there and the army is still battling almost two years on and putin is still there. so i don't think that the loss of even the whole lot of the lands and crimea included would do anything to putin's reputation. he will find a way to explain what's going on. that's one thing. the other thing is, it is, i don't think they see it that way. they don't think that there is ever a strong enough ukraine with strong enough weapons to withstand a pressure from a nuclear power. he's miscalculated the whole ukrainian affair. so my thinking is maybe this miscalculation continues further. time passes by, the west gets tired of supporting ukraine, and russia, which is way bigger than ukraine in terms of manpower, in terms of production power, military production power, will continue churning out people who will die on the front line and continue churning out missiles raining on ukraine when everybody will get tired and say, "ok, let's stop and start negotiate." and he will present that as a victory. i think his vision is something along the lines of this. can i turn to another conflict which has flared up again, the one between armenia and azerbaijan over nagorno—karabakh. how does that relate to the ukrainian war or doesn't it? there's a direct link between ukrainian war and with what happened in nagorno—karabakh. if there wasn't a ukraine war, azerbaijan would probably think twice before launching another operation. so at the moment, we have about 2,000 russian military in nagorno—karabakh with peacekeeping mission. they obviously don't have air support. they basically are lightly equipped because it's a peacekeeping force, it's there to keep peace and order and not conduct defensive or offensive operations. turkey militarily supported azerbaijan from the very beginning in 2020 war, which lasted 44 days and now which was basically a one day operation. and armenians didn't have that support from russia. russia was quiet in 2020 and was even quieter in 2023. the main thing is that russia is very much tied up in ukraine. when russian army failed so much on ukrainian front line and russia's military prowess, reputation has suffered as a result, so the governments in all those former soviet countries, they look at russia with a bit of fear, but don't find russia as threatening as it used to be before. mexico is one of those latin american countries which has traditionally seemed to embody the notion of patriarchy. it was only in 1953 that women got the vote there, and even at the turn of this century, the mexican senate was 80% male. suddenly, all that's changed. a majority of mexican senators are now women. and as things stand, both the main candidates for the presidential election next year will be women. how important is this transformation for mexico? katy watson, the bbc south america correspondent. i think the fact that there are two women, one of whom is expected to win the elections, is a massive deal. certainly it's been talked about all the way down here in sao paulo. mexico is a country that is traditionally known for being very macho. the fact that two women will be facing each other in next year's elections is clearly a huge step in this region, in mexico, but in the region as a whole. but do you see any signs of a change in mexican society that kind of parallels this political change? well, i think there are two sides of it. i mean, there's no question political participation in mexico has really has seen huge movement in the last couple of years. i mean, parity is enshrined in their constitution. there's been a real push to make sure that there is representation from women within politics at all levels. so that is something of a dramatic change in the world. i mean, it's a leader in that sense. at the same time, it is still a deeply macho country. it's a very violent country. i mean, you look at issues such as femicide, you know, the killing of women. and that has soared in recent years. amlo, the current president, he has tried to tackle that and he has failed. it's almost as if the problems with mexico are bigger than who becomes president. so the fact that there is this change is a very welcome change. the fact that it will be a different leadership, expected in 2024, again, is welcome. but there are massive issues to tackle within mexico. and is that something that a person can do in six years? remember, in mexico, there's no such thing as re—election. there's a six year presidency and that is it. so they only have a finite amount of time in which they can actually push through change and make meaningful change on the ground. because i think that's the issue, is that these two women have shown that you can get to the top and you can be equal when it comes to politics. but when it comes to the average mexican, i think the reality is very different. and what would be the different stance between the two women on, for instance, the major issue of the cartels' violence, the drug cartels? claudia sheinba, she's a former mayor of mexico city. she's an ally of the current president. he's really, really backed her and she looks like she's the front runner for now. xochitl galvez, she comes from an indigenous background. she's a tech entrepreneur, she's also a politician. you know, these two women are highly educated, highly experienced, both seen as social progressives, although one's from the left, one's from the right. they both believe in the decriminalisation of abortion. how they're going to tackle the issue of drug cartels? i mean, that, it's almost it's bigger than mexico. i mean, it's a world wide issue. yes, the cartels are in mexico, you know, colombia in this part of the world. but this is a worldwide industry that probably takes more than having a president for six years to be able to tackle it. i mean, you could argue even they're kind of parallel governments. i mean, they're incredibly powerful groups. and many of the groups also have very powerful women within those groups, too. but no doubt that will be an issue that will be rumbling along and arguably probably almost impossible to change. externally, mexico's reputation as a country has really taken a leap forward, certainly in the western world, with the decriminalisation of abortion and now the issue of the likelihood that there will be a woman president next. what is the sort of understanding of mexico's standing in the world outside? so i've covered this region for a decade in mexico and here, and i think in the last decade, i think you've seen huge amounts of change. so, yes, mexico has huge problems with lawlessness, rule of law, i would argue, probably more than here in sao paulo. but when it comes to like the feminist movement, we have seen a massive change. it's called the green wave movement. argentina has really led the way with the legalisation of abortion, mexico we've seen just a few weeks ago, the topic was started being debated here in brazil. this region has always felt the presence of the us, but what we're seeing, especially when it comes to abortion, you know, the rights are being rowed back in the us. here, there are big steps moving forward and you know, across the region there's been liberalisation of abortion rights. now, that of course, it has to be said, it had hugely strict rights. i mean, if you look at el salvador in central america, abortion is illegal under any circumstance. women are imprisoned for miscarriages because people, you know, they've been accused of abortion, aborting their baby. and i think, you know, there's still so much to be done. but if you're talking about the last decade or so, certainly since i've been covering it, i think there've been huge steps. is there any grounds that you feel, knowing mexico so well, to be optimistic about it? yeah, sure. i mean, any change is welcome change. and i think that, you know, the more that there's that parity and that dialogue and that both men and women are represented, and, you know, what harm does it do to have that change and have to have somebody else in power from the status quo? and also what does it teach, for example, the us? because of course its biggest trading partner has yet to have a female president. so it shows again that, you know, there's a lot to be seen, a lot to be taught from other parts, especially here in latin america. 20 years ago, the future prosperity of the continent of africa seemed fairly assured. south africa had come through the dangerous transition triumphantly from apartheid to majority rule. there were more democracies and fewer dictatorships in the continent, and the us president, george w bush had launched his perhaps slightly unlikely campaign to fund economic growth in africa. and then things started to go wrong. under presidentjacob zuma, south africa became a kleptocracy, with billions siphoned off to private bank accounts in the middle east. loud explosions after a brief respite, wars broke out again. soldiers staged what often looked like frivolous coups, even in niger, one of the more hopeful examples of democracy. and russian soldiers began to appear in several parts of francophone africa. what's extraordinary is quite how brazen it is. andrew harding, who's been the bbc�*s long serving africa correspondent throughout this entire process, has finally moved on. i took the opportunity of sitting him down to listen to his thoughts and experiences of covering the last 19 years in the continent. the big picture stuff is quite worrying, i would say. i mean, we've been through a decade where everyone's been looking very actively for good news from africa, and there's been the whole africa rising narrative, there's been the resource boom, china driven, all that export, all that money. and yet it now feels to me like a lot of that has been wasted and that the democratic gains that we saw bubbling up all over the place are not really bedding in that well in a lot of countries, we're seeing rollback. we're seeing a kind of c—minus kind of level democracy taking hold. i think that's a cause for concern. you've got this big demographic bubble, this youth bubble in africa, which for a long time has been understandably, maybe justifiably, seen as a positive. you look at ethiopia, somewhere that's trying to kind of ride to economic success on the back of that youth bubble. and the fear now is that that demographic benefit is being wasted and that it could become, it's already becoming in some places, a real threat, a real challenge, because you have a generation of young men, young women, well—educated in some cases, but very frustrated, frustrated with the lack of democracy, frustrated with the growing unemployment. and you see that particularly in the sahel region, and that's what's driving all these people to seek to cross the mediterranean, to get to europe, to find prosperity. right across, particularly the former french empire in africa, we're seeing all of these military coups. it's just like back in the �*705. there are a lot of different factors at work. and you see places like sudan as well, which has just had a military coup as well, and which is in a sense the biggest crisis in africa right now. the sheer complexity of it now, so many different players trying to have a role, i don't think is good for africa. i don't think it's helping anyone. i'm not saying people are yearning for a return to simpler times, but right now in the central african republic, the russians have taken over there. they're pretty much holding the country hostage. nothing to do with the french there really any more. and it's astonishing the extent and the ease with which ambitious, unprincipled often, new powers in africa, external powers like russia, are managing to get real leverage on the ground. and, yes, francophone africa right now, we've seen it in chad, we've seen it now in niger. and the latest news, of course, is that macron has sort of succumbed to what i think many people thought was inevitable and has announced that he's pulling french troops out of what had been their key base in this region. but what i would also say is that, that i don't think it's lost, in the sense france has lost africa. i think it's in play and i think we'll see the extent to which these coups are very much elite operations. they are the work of a tiny group of military men who are using the anti—colonial rhetoric and are being given russian flags, presumably by the kremlin, to wave. the russians may have played this weak hand very successfully, and they may currently be doing well in mali, in niger, in burkina faso, elsewhere. but i don't think that means they're necessarily there to stay because the regimes they're propping up are very weak, very fragile, and they are not going to satisfy the demands forjobs, for security, for economic growth that the populations there want. you don't think that if, say, donald trump comes to power in the us that the west in general will turn its back on african countries? the problem with that argument is from an african perspective, i think people would say, well, look, it was actually george bush and his pepfar programme that pumped billions into fighting aids, into fighting tb in africa. he was the last american administration that really made a difference. there are a lot of american companies trying to do business in the continent, but they are being eclipsed on a massive scale by the chinese. the chinese are there on the ground. chinese diplomacy, chinese businessmen, small and large, are everywhere. and the americans may be investing from a distance, but they're just not there in the way that i think impresses africans and makes them feel that they're being treated seriously. so when the chinese come, when the russians come, when russia invades ukraine, african governments and african populations go, well... ..we don't want to be anybody�*s plaything, but at least the chinese seem to take us seriously. at least the russian diplomacy, sergei lavrov comes for days, he comes for weeks. he visits so much more often than any british diplomats. you lived in south africa, injohannesburg. what's gone wrong there? it's a very schizophrenic country. it is still spectacular. it is still impressive on many levels. it still has a very vibrant private sector, a very energetic, quite optimistic population. and yet infrastructurally, the rot has been spectacular. and the anc, the governing anc admits as much. it talks about a lost decade underformer president jacob zuma. a lot of africans, south africans will go, look, the legacy of apartheid was never going to be undone and overcome in a generation. and that's very true. you still see that structural apartheid, the townships, the legacy of those times hard baked into the country. and it is a difficult one to overcome. and in many ways, the anc started incredibly ambitiously and impressively trying to undo that. the problem is that they've been in power for nearly 30 years, and what party can survive that without rotting? there's a sort of broad group of opposition parties that are hoping to take control. the thing that makes a lot of people nervous is the eff, a much more radical nationalist, populist, racialized party that might end up propping up the anc, keeping it in power. if that happens, you're going to see such a rush for the doors with investment. and investment is already flat—lining, foreign investment. and if that happens, i think the rand will collapse. foreign investment will dry up and south africa can't fix its problems without foreign help. it needs that foreign investment. do you think it's got the ability to claw its way back? i mean, i hope south africa will turn around. my concern is a sort of slow, long—term downhill... ..decline without saying it's going to turn into a war zone. i mean, some people would say it already is in terms of the violence there, but i think its long—term future is still up for grabs. andrew harding, the bbc�*s long serving africa correspondent, who's now heading for a possibly gentler posting in paris. and that brings this edition of unspun world to an end. thanks so much for being with me and the unspun team. and until we meet again, goodbye. good morning. welcome to breakfast with sarah campbell and charlie stayt. our headlines today: the 15—year—old girl killed in a school bus crash on the m53 is named asjessica baker. the driver also died in friday's accident. new hope of a much faster radiotherapy treatment for thousands of men diagnosed with prostate cancer. a man in his 60s is arrested by police investigating the cutting down of the famous sycamore gap tree in northumberland. good morning. ruling the roost in rome. it's european ectasy, after building up a record—equalling lead, on the opening day of the ryder cup, with the usa failing to win a single match. with a ban on xl bullies planned for the end of the year, animal charities warn of more abandoned dogs and confusion among owners. a dry start to the weekend for many and it will stay that way top and tailor the country. it's saturday the 30th of september. our main story. a teenage girl who died after a school bus crashed on the motorway in merseyside has been named as 15—year—old jessica baker. she was killed — along with the coach driver — in the collision on the m53 at morning rush hour yesterday. several other children were injured. our correspondent helena wilkinson has the latest. this is a 15—year—old jessica baker, one of the schoolchildren on the bus killed in the crash. the driver who has been named online as stephen shrimpton also died. more than 50 children were on their way to school when theirjourney ended in tragedy. this is the aftermath of the crash on the m53 on merseyside. the coach overturned. it happened just after eight o'clock yesterday morning. a major incident was declared. police, ambulance and fire crews were quickly sent to the scene. condolences for their family and friends at this tragic time. we are offering support to both families and working with schools and the councils to ensure that necessary trauma support is in place for the children on the bus. a 14—year—old boy is also being treated for life changing injuries. other children were also injured. 50 children were transported to a casualty clearing centre at the emergency service training centre. of those 50, 39 have now been discharged. the remainder have been taken to hospital for further treatment. the children were going to two schools. the boys to calday grange grammar school and the girls to west kirby grammar school. they have been provided with specialist trauma support. so too are other children from both schools who were on buses travelling in convoy with the one that crashed and saw what happened. police have appealed to anyone who has dashcam footage to contact them urgently as investigators establish how the crash happened. a crash which has left two families devastated. schoolchildren injured and so many locally traumatised by what they experienced and what they saw. 15—year—old jessica baker was a pupil at west kirby grammar school. our reporter yunus mulla is there now. we can see tributes there and thoughts with the people who lost their lives. ii i , their lives. that is right. over my shoulder you _ their lives. that is right. over my shoulder you can _ their lives. that is right. over my shoulder you can see _ their lives. that is right. over my shoulder you can see flowers - their lives. that is right. over my| shoulder you can see flowers that have been left outside the grammar school and one message it simply reads sorry to see you go. thoughts with the family. jessica was a pupil year on—board that bus that overturned on the m53 yesterday. sparking a major incident to pupils also from caldy grange grammar a short distance away from here. they were travelling in convoy and a 14—year—old oil was left with life—threatening injuries and also a bus driver was killed. that bus driver has been named online as stephen shrimpton and his family have posted a fundraising page. they say he had medical issues at the wheel and they have also said he leaves a wife and two young children. an investigation is clearly under way and family liaison officers are supporting the families. the birkenhead mp has said the community will come together to support the families involved in what he describes as an absolute tragedy. the m53 motorway was closed yesterday to allow complex investigation work to take place in that motorway has now reopened. thank you very much. we have more now on a major medical breakthrough. thousands of men every year who undergo treatment for prostate cancer could safely be given far less radiotherapy — that's according to a major international trial. the pace—b study found that radiotherapy doses can be cut by three—quarters, meaning less pressure on the nhs. here's our medical editor fergus walsh. there was no pain or inconvenience. the treatment was just so swift and easy. there was no downside to it. alistair kennedy rose feels extremely fortunate to have had his prostate cancer treated in just five sessions of radiotherapy. eight years on, the 64 is still cancer free. it was almost as if i had never had prostate cancer because i did not have any symptoms to start with and the treatment was so easy, ultimately so very effective. he was treated here at the royal marsden hospital in london as part of a pivotal trial involving nearly 900 men at 38 hospitals in the uk, ireland and canada. all the men had medium risk prostate cancer which had not spread. after five years, 96% of the men who had five high doses of multiple beam radiotherapy were cancer free. compared to 95% who had at least 20 doses of standard radiotherapy. both groups had low side effect. the pink area is the prostate gland. the medical director of the royal marsden led the international trial. for him, this is a big moment. when i got the results i was blown away. it was probably one of the best days in my career. i think it is fantastic news for patients and brilliant news for the nhs. so what are the implications? i think it will be an enormous change and i suspect the nhs, instead of getting 20 doses we could get five and if we extrapolate that that is hundreds of thousands of doses of radiotherapy that will be saved and in the system that is under pressure that will be very welcome. another likely change is less use of hormone therapy in the future. none of the men on the trials given any and so was spared the side—effects like extreme fatigue, hot flushes and low libido. it will be a better experience for thousands of men with prostate cancer every year. they will be able to have all their radiotherapy treatment in just one week and without the need for hormone therapy. alistair�*s prostate cancer was picked up after a simple blood test. he wants all men over 50 to get themselves checked. fergus walsh, bbc news. police in the us have charged a former gang leader with murdering the rapper tupac shakur, who was killed in a drive—by shooting in las vegas 27 years ago. duane davis, known as "keefe d" has been arrested and charged with the killing. two people were taken to hospital after the flying scotsman steam train was involved in a crash with another heritage train in the cairngorms. the low speed collision took place at aviemore railway station, in the scottish highlands. three other people were treated at the scene. police said no injuries were serious. a man in his 60s has been arrested by police investigating the cutting down of the famous sycamore gap tree in northumberland. the landmark was felled overnight on wednesday. a 16—year—old boy, who was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage, has been released on bail. local councils in england could be curbed from introducing 20 mile per hour speed limits on their roads. it's one of several transport proposals to be announced by the government ahead of the conservative conference in manchester this weekend. our political correspondent iain watson reports. rishi sunak has been doing more to set out his political direction of travel recently, defying expectations the conservatives held on in the oxbridge by—election in july by opposing the extension of london's low emission zone. it is now signally they are the motorists friend. ~ ii i now signally they are the motorists friend. ~ iii i ii i now signally they are the motorists friend. ~ i iii ii now signally they are the motorists friend. i i iii ii friend. most people are getting around in cars _ friend. most people are getting around in cars and _ friend. most people are getting around in cars and it _ friend. most people are getting around in cars and it is - friend. most people are getting i around in cars and it is important when they do that that the roads are well—maintained and we should invest in road maintenance. i well-maintained and we should invest in road maintenance.— in road maintenance. i interviewed that make after _ in road maintenance. i interviewed that make after an _ in road maintenance. i interviewed that make after an interview - in road maintenance. i interviewed that make after an interview with i that make after an interview with the sun newspaper he is travelling further down that road claiming he is slamming the brakes on motorists in the waragainst is slamming the brakes on motorists in the war against them. he wants to limit the ability of councils to introduce blanket speed limits and reduce the number of 24 day bus lanes and is reviewing low traffic neighbourhoods. but counsellors of all political colours have imposed such restrictions but with around 444,000 people signing a petition against expansion, the governments is a political opportunity in england. rishi sunak are setting out a political dividing line with labour ahead of the party conference this weekend. he hopes to put his opponents on the spot, challenging them as to whether they will reverse his plans for motorists and could see the same approach adopted across a range of policy areas as we move closer to the next general election. adhere not everyone is so approving of the prime ministers plans. i think it is good and i think it is a lot safer. i have young children so i all four 20 miles an hour speed zone. if} i all four 20 miles an hour speed zone. i; i: i i z: i ii zone. 30 is fine but 20 will be a problem- _ zone. 30 is fine but 20 will be a problem- and — zone. 30 is fine but 20 will be a problem. and labour _ zone. 30 is fine but 20 will be a | problem. and labour questioned zone. 30 is fine but 20 will be a - problem. and labour questioned the rime problem. and labour questioned the prime ministers _ problem. and labour questioned the prime ministers priorities. _ problem. and labour questioned the prime ministers priorities. while - prime ministers priorities. while there are clearly _ prime ministers priorities. while there are clearly issues - prime ministers priorities. while there are clearly issues to - prime ministers priorities. “er is: there are clearly issues to address for drivers i think a lot of people would be quite shocked that this should be the priority when people are really struggling with the cost of living and struggling to access basic public services. rishi sunak will drive to _ basic public services. rishi sunak will drive to the _ basic public services. rishi sunak will drive to the party _ basic public services. rishi sunak will drive to the party conference | will drive to the party conference in manchester todayjudah would in manchester today judah would train in manchester todayjudah would train straight. but with many voters using their cars every day he is hoping to gain some ground on labour. it's one year since russia's illegal attempt to annex several regions of eastern ukraine in what have been branded "sham" elections — but it still does not fully control any of them. our ukraine correspondent james waterhouse is in kyiv. james — 12 months on, what's changed? 12 months on can you tell us what has changed and, crucially, for the people living there what it is like 12 months on? fin people living there what it is like 12 months on?— people living there what it is like 12 months on? ~ ii ii i 12 months on? on the ukrainian side very little has changed. _ 12 months on? on the ukrainian side very little has changed. you - 12 months on? on the ukrainian side very little has changed. you have - very little has changed. you have four regions which russia has announced as being annexed a year ago which are not completely under russia's control so this time last year you had zaporizhzhia, don yet, but three on regions which are still still very contested and in the time since the southern city of was liberated. and in the last four months we saw a counteroffensive launched south of zaporizhzhia where gains have been far less obvious but hugely costly and nevertheless ukraine is retaking territory, slowly. we see missile strikes into occupied crimea and we see the russians very much on the defensive footing but, nevertheless, ukraine is somewhere off the desired liberation very much fighting for. so why did russia announce the annexations? we saw the scenes in red square last night with vladimir putin talking. he thanked the people in the region for passing on their love of the country to their children. it is a message to say everything is going according to plan in this so—called special military operation. and its audience, his audience of the russian people themselves. it is for internal consumption to try and keep criticism at bay and to put on a display of strength, if you like. vladimir putin spoke about a process which has been internationally recognised. these annexations have only been recognised by syria and north korea, two countries very much aligned with russia. so for ukraine, this changes very little. it is still a story of occupation and attempted liberation and for russia it is actually a continuation of a trend as well in that vladimir putin, the kremlin, his generals are trying to put on a picture that everything is going according to plan. they have a firm grasp on 150 of ukraine but what we are seeing a missile strikes and troop movements, we see continued support from the west in an attempt to undermine the presence and ukraine, at the moment, is showing no signs of concession in its quest to fully repel the russian forces from its territory. a state of emergency has been declared in new york after torrential downpours triggered flash floods — turning streets into rivers. in some places, more than ten centimetres of rain fell in just a few hours. those pictures really are extraordinary. over to you, those pictures really are extraordinary. overto you, mad, those pictures really are extraordinary. over to you, mad, for the weather. it extraordinary. over to you, mad, for the weather-— the weather. it looks quite wet behind you _ the weather. it looks quite wet behind you as _ the weather. it looks quite wet behind you as well? _ the weather. it looks quite wet behind you as well? yes, - behind you as well? yes, those scenes from your quite incredible. lets put some numbers on it and give perspective. jfk saw more rain in a single day then the entire month of september, that also made it their wettest calendar day on record. i have never seen that much rainfall in one day. in an urban area, of course, that is why we saw all that flooding. it is the equivalent of three or four months of rain flooding. it is the equivalent of three orfour months of rain in birmingham falling in the space of just one day. new york of course is the latest spot to suffer flooding during september. this is the area of crab responsible. the weather system has this little finger of crowd bringing intense rain, that is now easing away. if we cross over the atlantic to our shores, we have crowd moving in. this is coming in and is said to bring rain to some of us, not on the same scale as we go through to the second half of this afternoon. i dry start on saturday, some spells of sunshine in the west and north, a bit of crowd elsewhere but some breaks for those sunny spells, through the morning, ten went to the north and west of wales. increasingly so into northern ireland as we head into lunchtime. strengthening winds around the irish sea. that rain were go into parts of the north midlands, north—west england and south—western parts of scotland well. windiest towards the west, lighter winds elsewhere. most other areas will stay dry, with a bit of sunshine, 20 degrees in london, a fresh day in the far north of scotland, about 12—14. staying largely dry here. the edge up here as we go into tonight, the heaviest rain clearing out for a time, more bursts of heavy rain into northern england, north west wales, late in the far south and east, one of the areas that will stay dry of night and into tomorrow morning. what we will also see tonight, after a fresh and into tomorrow morning. what we will also see tonight, after a fresh night last night, temperatures holding up much more, 12 to 16 or 17 degrees. a humid feel for many as we go into sunday. to the south and east of this weather front, northern ireland, parts of north—west england and wales, more rain to come, that will edge its way south and fragments just a will edge its way south and fragmentsjust a little bit. scotland and northern ireland, the finalfitting one, brightening up with sunny spells. the same light of the channel isles and east anglia, should stay dry for much of the day. varying amounts of air, warm in the sunshine, temperatures up to 23 or 24 celsius, a particularly warm start to october. if you're travelling by rail today you're likely to face significant upheaval, because train drivers are staging another strike. because train drivers the fresh wave of industrial action — by members of the aslef union — means fewer than half of trains will be operating. mick whelan, general secretary of aslef, joins us now from london euston. good morning to you, thank you for talking to us this morning. today and wednesday it is going to be very difficult for people getting around the country, there will be people at home, i am sure, watching this. they may have had plans to meet relatives, travelling by train, and i will not be able to do it. what can you say to them as to why they cannot travel on trains today? well. cannot travel on trains today? well, when we get — cannot travel on trains today? well, when we get to _ cannot travel on trains today? well, when we get to february _ cannot travel on trains today? well, when we get to february next - cannot travel on trains today? -ii when we get to february next year it will be half a decade since my members have had a pay rise. quite simply, it is a westminster problem, created by a westminster government. we have done 12—14 pay deals in the last year and as you said, 50% of the trains are running. all those companies with which we've done pay deals, you have trains that are running. this is a political dispute caused by a government that doesn't want to invest in railways, doesn't want to invest in railways, doesn't want to invest in personnel, and thinks it is the job of the workers to support our employers, we don't work for the government, we work for private companies which are earning hundreds of millions of pounds on paying dividends to their private shareholders. you paying dividends to their private shareholders.— shareholders. you mentioned the government- _ shareholders. you mentioned the government- a — shareholders. you mentioned the government. a statement - shareholders. you mentioned the government. a statement from i shareholders. you mentioned the i government. a statement from the department for transport says that there is a fair and reasonable offer on the table that would take train drivers pluto's salaries from £60,000 to £65,000 for a 35 hour, four day week. that offer, they say, has not been put to your members. why not? has not been put to your members. wh not? i ii i i has not been put to your members. wh not? i iii i ,, ii i why not? well, as they know, they dealt with us _ why not? well, as they know, they dealt with us for _ why not? well, as they know, they dealt with us for the _ why not? well, as they know, they dealt with us for the past _ why not? well, as they know, they dealt with us for the past 23 - why not? well, as they know, they dealt with us for the past 23 years, j dealt with us for the past 23 years, we have a policy made by our members that we only put out deals that we recommend. we also have a framework agreement with the employees about what we are going to do, what the talks will contain. part of that was having five meetings to take away the red lines to make sure that there was a chance that deal would succeed. they gave us a deal with all the red lines in. when you say that fair and reasonable is a strapline, they use that in the nhs, they use it in other sectors. if you put lies and deceit in the place of being fair and reasonable, that is where who we are dealing with. hosp where who we are dealing with. how will this be resolved? this is the 12th day of strikes in the 16th man speak —— my 16 month dispute. is thisjust going to speak —— my 16 month dispute. is this just going to be the norm? people will be working out how they're going to get places, there will be working out now how on wednesday they are going to get children to school, how they are going to get to work. do people have to get used to this because there is no sign of any resolution between yourselves?— no sign of any resolution between ourselves? i ii ii i yourselves? well, we have not seen the transport _ yourselves? well, we have not seen the transport minister— yourselves? well, we have not seen the transport minister make - yourselves? well, we have not seen the transport minister make any - the transport minister make any publication since last december. we have not seen the rail minister since january. we haven't seen the employer since april. we have been saying all along we are willing to talk and find a way out of this, but it is not all gusts, it is not an fighter complete process. it has to be acceptable to all people and be truly reasonable, not forced to be reasonable. truly reasonable, not forced to be reasonable-— reasonable. presumably your members are losing money _ reasonable. presumably your members are losing money every _ reasonable. presumably your members are losing money every time _ reasonable. presumably your members are losing money every time you - reasonable. presumably your members are losing money every time you have i are losing money every time you have are losing money every time you have a day of strikes. on the programme today we have been speaking to people from the hospitality industry, they have been particularly talking about the concern at christmas, people who are on far less money than the average pay for a train driver. they are genuinely worried about their jobs, if we have another christmas of strikes. can you at least say that christmas will be kept out of the strikes this year? i christmas will be kept out of the strikes this year?— christmas will be kept out of the strikes this year? i can't say that. you have the _ strikes this year? i can't say that. you have the government - strikes this year? i can't say that. - you have the government introducing minimum service levels, minimum service levels that exacerbate and make industrial strife longer and cause far more of it, and make for a less safe railway. at this moment in time, we have not looked at what we are doing next, we are only in september, we cannot say what will happen. in september, we cannot say what will ha en. ii september, we cannot say what will ha . en, ii ii happen. in the next hour on breakfast — happen. in the next hour on breakfast we _ happen. in the next hour on breakfast we will _ happen. in the next hour on breakfast we will be - happen. in the next hour on i breakfast we will be speaking happen. in the next hour on - breakfast we will be speaking to the transport secretary. what is your message to him?— transport secretary. what is your message to him? well, say hello for me. it message to him? well, say hello for me- it would — message to him? well, say hello for me. it would be _ message to him? well, say hello for me. it would be nice _ message to him? well, say hello for me. it would be nice to _ message to him? well, say hello for me. it would be nice to see - message to him? well, say hello for me. it would be nice to see mr - me. it would be nice to see mr harper, i didn't know he still existed. we are running a theme today of where's wally? where is mark? because we have not seen him for so long. let's see if the government wants to talk to us, but see if they really want a resolution, because all the indications are that they want to strive, they don't want to end this, and they don't want to talk to us. thank you, we will pass that message on. since the prime minister announced plans to ban american bully xl type dogs, animal charities say they've had an increase in calls from worried pet owners. the government says it's taking quick action to protect the public after a series of recent attacks — but owners are now concerned how a ban could affect them. john maguire reports. one—year—old rufus is a happy dog, but with a very uncertain future. he is among the 20 here at the hope rescue centre in south wales that may be affected by the ban on excel bullies, and staff fear there may be more to come. bullies, and staff fear there may be more to come-— more to come. since the prime minister announced _ more to come. since the prime minister announced the - more to come. since the prime minister announced the ban - more to come. since the prime minister announced the ban we j more to come. since the prime - minister announced the ban we have seen a massive increase in the number of phone calls, messages that we are getting from panicked donors. firstly they are worried about whether their dog is going to fit into this ban, so we are hearing from not only owners of xl bullies, but also other bully breeds, instead of going to fit despair, and what does it mean to their dog? if people are panicked and are not sure what to do, will we see a high number of dogs coming into our care, which at the moment, when we are already working at capacity, is really scary for us. iii ii working at capacity, is really scary for us. ii ii working at capacity, is really scary for us. ii,i, ii working at capacity, is really scary for us. i for us. good boy x might 'ust get him used to i for us. good boy x might 'ust get him used to putting h for us. good boy x mightjust get him used to putting his face - for us. good boy x mightjust get him used to putting his face in i him used to putting his face in different— him used to putting his face in different things, making it nice and simple _ different things, making it nice and simle. i i simple. this is the second time simone and _ simple. this is the second time simone and nick— simple. this is the second time simone and nick brought - simple. this is the second time simone and nick brought their| simple. this is the second time i simone and nick brought their xl bully, creed, to be changed to wear a muzzle. he is rewarded with treats, and is making very good progress. his owners are being proactive, anticipating a proposed law that would change the way they live with their dog.— live with their dog. i would rather be ahead of the _ live with their dog. i would rather be ahead of the game _ live with their dog. i would rather be ahead of the game and make | live with their dog. i would rather- be ahead of the game and make sure that we are repaired. creed had never won a muzzle before and he doesn't particularly like things near his face, so it could take a while to get comfortable with it. and i want to make sure that if and when they do bring this ruling, we are not trapped in the house and cannot take me out and walking because we cannot get a muzzle on him. , i because we cannot get a muzzle on him. i i ii i, i him. they believe dangerous behaviour— him. they believe dangerous behaviour is _ him. they believe dangerous behaviour is derived - him. they believe dangerous behaviour is derived from - him. they believe dangerous| behaviour is derived from the responsible breeders and owners, caused by humans, not animals. i just think it should be notjust xls, it should be tighter dog control for everybody. and if your dog does attack someone you should pay the consequences. it should be treated the same as like manslaughter. i treated the same as like manslaughter.— treated the same as like manslaughter. treated the same as like manslauhter. ~ ii i, manslaughter. i think that would control a lot _ manslaughter. i think that would control a lot of _ manslaughter. i think that would control a lot of issues. _ manslaughter. i think that would control a lot of issues. here - manslaughter. i think that would control a lot of issues. here at i manslaughter. i think that would i control a lot of issues. here at the dog academy near milton keynes, they have been inundated with requests for help since the prime minister announced his intention to ban the breed. i, i ii ii i breed. people are getting really overwhelmed. there _ breed. people are getting really overwhelmed. there is - breed. people are getting really overwhelmed. there is a lot - breed. people are getting really overwhelmed. there is a lot of. overwhelmed. there is a lot of people who have been coming in with dogs that they just aren't going people who have been coming in with dogs that theyjust aren't going to wear a muzzle. dogs that theyjust aren't going to weara muzzle. i dogs that theyjust aren't going to wear a muzzle. i know a couple of people who have put their pets to sleep already because either they can't afford it or the stigma attached to it. it is a hard decision for a lot of people. cairo's owners have so far tried unsuccessfully to muzzle him at home. he is a large dog, but at nine months, is still a puppy, and is already taking to this method. his owners are not sure if his exact breed, but they are not taking any chances. ile breed, but they are not taking any chances. ii i i i, i chances. he has shown so much potential- it _ chances. he has shown so much potential. it is _ chances. he has shown so much potential. it is quite _ potential. it is quite heartbreaking. that is why we are trying to take these steps before anything comes into place. determining whether or not a dog belongs to a band breed is difficult, and there are concerns that the breed will affect responsible owners while doing little to tackle those who already abuse existing laws, the system and dogs themselves. and we'll be speaking with a dog rescue charity at around 9.15 this morning, to help answer questions on how the ban could work. to get in touch with the programme if you have particular questions. we've been reporting how one of the uk's most well—known trees — the sycamore gap tree at hadrian's wall — was cut down earlier this week. it's something that's sparked a huge amount of anger and sadness, both here in the uk and internationally. our reporter alison freeman's been following this story and she's at site now. i know you have been there for 24 hours or so, but every time you say that shot, it doesn't stop being shocking. it is so immediately obvious what has happened there mac. and the change, we saw the picture on a big screen a moment ago, from how it was to what it now is. yes mac, it how it was to what it now is. yes mac. it is — how it was to what it now is. yes mac, it is still _ how it was to what it now is. i;e::i mac, it is still incredibly shocking. it is the third day that i have been here, it doesn't get any easier. lots of the people we have been speaking to are really upset. it is not a crime scene any more, the police tape has down. iron man in his 60s has now been arrested by the police in connection with their investigation. as i said, thoughts now are turning to what happens next for the area. i am joined now by andrew, the chair of cat make a visit to northumberland. andrew, can you just tell me, the first time you saw it how did you feel? i you just tell me, the first time you saw it how did you feel?— saw it how did you feel? i think i was working _ saw it how did you feel? i think i was working through _ saw it how did you feel? i think i was working through the - saw it how did you feel? i think i was working through the stages | saw it how did you feel? i think i i was working through the stages of acceptance and i was in denial, but it really— acceptance and i was in denial, but it really is— acceptance and i was in denial, but it really is upsetting, it is dreadful, that this has happened, in such a _ dreadful, that this has happened, in such a spiritual place.— such a spiritual place. thoughts are now turning — such a spiritual place. thoughts are now turning to _ such a spiritual place. thoughts are now turning to how _ such a spiritual place. thoughts are now turning to how businesses - such a spiritual place. thoughts are now turning to how businesses will| now turning to how businesses will be affected. there are lots of businesses around here that use that image to sell their businesses. are you worried about that future? i think there will be a curiosity, a demand — think there will be a curiosity, a demand factor, initially, in terms of people — demand factor, initially, in terms of people wanting to see it, but i think— of people wanting to see it, but i think it's — of people wanting to see it, but i think it's important that we mentioned the site is safe first. we will let— mentioned the site is safe first. we will let the national park and the national— will let the national park and the national trust do what i have to first _ national trust do what i have to first we — national trust do what i have to first. we will have to work with our other— first. we will have to work with our other partner agencies, and actually, _ other partner agencies, and actually, cap might visit england had a _ actually, cap might visit england had a call— actually, cap might visit england had a call yesterday to see what we can do together.— can do together. holly, you are in chare of can do together. holly, you are in charge of marketing. _ can do together. holly, you are in charge of marketing. what - charge of marketing. what can businesses do? there was this initial spite of people coming to see it, but what can be done next? it is quite hard. people are angry and feeling — it is quite hard. people are angry and feeling quite _ it is quite hard. people are angry and feeling quite sad _ it is quite hard. people are angry and feeling quite sad has - it is quite hard. people are angry. and feeling quite sad has happened, and feeling quite sad has happened, and we _ and feeling quite sad has happened, and we have — and feeling quite sad has happened, and we have seen— and feeling quite sad has happened, and we have seen recently— and feeling quite sad has happened, and we have seen recently on- and feeling quite sad has happened, and we have seen recently on social| and we have seen recently on social mediai _ and we have seen recently on social media, a _ and we have seen recently on social media, a lot — and we have seen recently on social media, a lot of— and we have seen recently on social media, a lot of outpouring - and we have seen recently on social media, a lot of outpouring of- and we have seen recently on social media, a lot of outpouring of grief, | media, a lot of outpouring of grief, people _ media, a lot of outpouring of grief, people wanting _ media, a lot of outpouring of grief, people wanting to _ media, a lot of outpouring of grief, people wanting to do _ media, a lot of outpouring of grief, people wanting to do something i media, a lot of outpouring of grief, i people wanting to do something going forward, _ people wanting to do something going forward, we _ people wanting to do something going forward, we have _ people wanting to do something going forward, we have seen funding pagesl forward, we have seen funding pages being _ forward, we have seen funding pages being set— forward, we have seen funding pages being set up. — forward, we have seen funding pages being set up. etc _ forward, we have seen funding pages being set up, etc. what— forward, we have seen funding pages being set up, etc. what is— forward, we have seen funding pages being set up, etc. what is importantl being set up, etc. what is important is that— being set up, etc. what is important is that we _ being set up, etc. what is important is that we maintain _ being set up, etc. what is important is that we maintain protection - being set up, etc. what is important is that we maintain protection for. is that we maintain protection for the landscape _ is that we maintain protection for the landscape and _ is that we maintain protection for the landscape and the _ is that we maintain protection for the landscape and the site, - is that we maintain protection for the landscape and the site, so i the landscape and the site, so whatever— the landscape and the site, so whatever we _ the landscape and the site, so whatever we do— the landscape and the site, so whatever we do going - the landscape and the site, sol whatever we do going forward, the landscape and the site, so - whatever we do going forward, we will make — whatever we do going forward, we will make sure _ whatever we do going forward, we will make sure that _ whatever we do going forward, we will make sure that we _ whatever we do going forward, we will make sure that we are - whatever we do going forward, we will make sure that we are fully. will make sure that we are fully supporting _ will make sure that we are fully supporting it— will make sure that we are fully supporting it northumberland l supporting it northumberland national— supporting it northumberland national park— national park and the national trust. and _ national park and the national trust, and other— national park and the national trust, and other partners, - national park and the national trust, and other partners, to i national park and the national - trust, and other partners, to make sure that _ trust, and other partners, to make sure that whatever— trust, and other partners, to make sure that whatever we _ trust, and other partners, to make sure that whatever we do - trust, and other partners, to make sure that whatever we do going - sure that whatever we do going forward is — sure that whatever we do going forward is the _ sure that whatever we do going forward is the right _ sure that whatever we do going forward is the right thing, the l forward is the right thing, the right— forward is the right thing, the right thing for this _ forward is the right thing, the right thing for this place - forward is the right thing, the right thing for this place and i right thing for this place and we can find — right thing for this place and we can find something _ right thing for this place and we can find something that - right thing for this place and we can find something that works i right thing for this place and we i can find something that works for everybody — can find something that works for everybody. is _ can find something that works for everybody. is there _ can find something that works for everybody. is there a _ can find something that works for everybody. is there a practical- can find something that works forl everybody. is there a practical way that you _ everybody. is there a practical way that you can — everybody. is there a practical way that you can remind _ everybody. is there a practical way that you can remind people - everybody. is there a practical way that you can remind people aboutl everybody. is there a practical way. that you can remind people about the rest of— that you can remind people about the rest of the _ that you can remind people about the rest of the landscape? _ that you can remind people about the rest of the landscape? it— rest of the landscape? it is important. _ rest of the landscape? it is important, but _ rest of the landscape? it is important, but it _ rest of the landscape? it is important, but it is - rest of the landscape? it is important, but it is not - rest of the landscape ?- important, but it is notjust cap mexican war cab mike gap? has mexican war cab mike gap? as dreadful as it is, from the local point _ dreadful as it is, from the local point of— dreadful as it is, from the local point of view, this is a destination, people come here for this reason. it is a spiritual place _ this reason. it is a spiritual place. people have been proposed to heari _ place. people have been proposed to hear. they— place. people have been proposed to hear, they have scattered family ashes i— hear, they have scattered family ashes. i think there will always be that legacy. for international visitors — that legacy. for international visitors l _ that legacy. for international visitors i think this isjust an element _ visitors i think this isjust an element of the fantastic county and all the _ element of the fantastic county and all the experience we have to offer around _ all the experience we have to offer around this— all the experience we have to offer around this area, so i think we have to remember— around this area, so i think we have to remember that.— to remember that. thank you for “oinin us to remember that. thank you for joining us this — to remember that. thank you for joining us this morning. - to remember that. thank you for joining us this morning. just - to remember that. thank you for joining us this morning. just one| joining us this morning. just one little thing to tell you, we left yesterday afternoon, overnight somebody has gone on to plant a new sycamore here at sycamore gap. we spoke to some experts yesterday, whether it can survive the elements that have blown through here for hundreds of years and turning to the next famous tree. charlie and sarah. walks it is just after 7:30. residents fighting plans to turn a former raf base into an asylum centre have set up a protest camp at the site. the home office intends to house up to 2000 people at raf scampton in lincolnshire, with the first 50 set to arrive within weeks. alice key has the story. a steady stream of visitors have called in at the camp which orders the old raf base bringing supplies and solidarity. ii the old raf base bringing supplies and solidarity-— and solidarity. if people do not stand u- and solidarity. if people do not stand up for— and solidarity. if people do not stand up for their _ and solidarity. if people do not stand up for their beliefs - and solidarity. if people do not stand up for their beliefs then | stand up for their beliefs then everything just gets railroaded through. it everything 'ust gets railroaded throuh. i everything 'ust gets railroaded throu~h. i i, everything 'ust gets railroaded throuh. i i, i ii through. it is not necessarily that --eole do through. it is not necessarily that people do think _ through. it is not necessarily that people do think the _ through. it is not necessarily that people do think the worst. - through. it is not necessarily that people do think the worst. i think it isj'ust — people do think the worst. i think it isjust the unknown. the people do think the worst. i think it isjust the unknown.— people do think the worst. i think it isjust the unknown. the base was once the home _ it isjust the unknown. the base was once the home of _ it isjust the unknown. the base was once the home of 617 _ it isjust the unknown. the base was once the home of 617 squadron - once the home of 617 squadron responsible for the famous dam buster raids in 1943. up until last year it was also a base for the red arrows. tony feels very strongly about the heritage of the site. heroes have walked through those fields and heroes have flown in and out of those runways. some came back, some did not and it is tragic if we let this go. the back, some did not and it is tragic if we let this go.— if we let this go. the government said it had _ if we let this go. the government said it had to _ if we let this go. the government said it had to deal— if we let this go. the government said it had to deal with _ if we let this go. the government said it had to deal with record - said it had to deal with record numbers of people crossing the channel to claim asylum. the result away about why the a decision waiting for a decision. others have gone up on these talents have i not only straight out of the mouth and 90,000 men hereby deliver residents of the presidency has impact on the amount of beans helping into account they will start to listen to her that they have not profile stop it is something the prime minister was challenged on this week. brute is something the prime minister was challenged on this week.— challenged on this week. we are not iranorin challenged on this week. we are not ignoring concerns. _ challenged on this week. we are not ignoring concerns. home _ challenged on this week. we are not ignoring concerns. home office - challenged on this week. we are not ignoring concerns. home office is i ignoring concerns. home office is liars and with local stakeholders and the council to make sure everything is done properly. that, fundamentally, we need an alternative to housing people in hotels which costs the taxpayer 5— £6 million a day. its, hotels which costs the taxpayer 5- £6 million a day.— hotels which costs the taxpayer 5- £6 million a day. a temporary stop notice has been _ £6 million a day. a temporary stop notice has been issued _ £6 million a day. a temporary stop notice has been issued by - £6 million a day. a temporary stop notice has been issued by the i £6 million a day. a temporary stop notice has been issued by the local council to try and hold proceedings and residents have been keeping a watchful eye for any signs it is not being followed.— watchful eye for any signs it is not being followed. i have been at the ates and being followed. i have been at the gates and this _ being followed. i have been at the gates and this driver _ being followed. i have been at the gates and this driver here - being followed. i have been at the gates and this driver here has i being followed. i have been at thej gates and this driver here has now been told that he has got to turn around and go back.— been told that he has got to turn around and go back. ashley stopped a [or at the around and go back. ashley stopped a lorry at the gates _ around and go back. ashley stopped a lorry at the gates to _ around and go back. ashley stopped a lorry at the gates to inform _ around and go back. ashley stopped a lorry at the gates to inform the i lorry at the gates to inform the driver about the notice. he has now parked his caravan at the camp and says he will do the same again. est says he will do the same again. git the end of the day of they want to carry on and do it so be it. but i feel like they should know exactly what is going on. the plans of the home office will be scrutinised in court at the end of october before a final decision is made. lihtiii court at the end of october before a final decision is made.— final decision is made. until then, -rotesters final decision is made. until then, protesters say _ final decision is made. until then, protesters say they _ final decision is made. until then, protesters say they are _ final decision is made. until then, protesters say they are not - final decision is made. until then, protesters say they are not going | protesters say they are not going anywhere. mike has all the sport for us. the ryder cup is an enormous sporting occasion and it starts and it is extraordinary what happens next. an incredible one—sided story. if ever a picture told a story. the european team pinching themselves, just like the fans because no—one predicted how dominant they would be on the opening day of the cup. as they built up their record equalling lead, and it's hard to see how the americans can recover after failing to win a single match. the second day is underway, and our sports correspondent andy swiss, is there. there could not be a bigger contrast in the mood of fans and teams arriving there today and still taking in, the european fans drinking in the drama of yesterday. that is right. it was an incredible day for europe yesterday, wasn't it? i don't think in their wildest dreams they could have asked for much more. remember, it was the first time in ryder cup history that they won all four opening matches on they won all four opening matches on the first day. the afternoon matches were much tighter and the us had real chances to win three of those matches that in the end all three matches that in the end all three matches ended up being tied and we saw real drama on the 18th hole. justin rose had a putt to tie his match. could he snatch half a point? of match. could he snatch half a point? of course he could. and theyjust summed up the european day. you could see what it meant tojustin and his teammates. a sensational day for europe but a terrible day for the united states. the first time in ryder cup history that they have failed to win a single match over the course of a day. afterwards, interestingly, their captain said there had been a bit of illness going around the us team which may have affected their play but whatever the reasons they know they have to improve today if they are going to have any chance of keeping their hopes alive. find going to have any chance of keeping their hopes alive.— their hopes alive. and for europe i uess it their hopes alive. and for europe i guess it is — their hopes alive. and for europe i guess it is a _ their hopes alive. and for europe i guess it is a case _ their hopes alive. and for europe i guess it is a case of _ their hopes alive. and for europe i guess it is a case of not _ their hopes alive. and for europe i guess it is a case of not letting i their hopes alive. and for europe i guess it is a case of not letting a i guess it is a case of not letting a motion sweep over them are getting to your forehead at this stage in keeping that momentum going. that is riht. keeping that momentum going. that is right. the european fans _ keeping that momentum going. that is right. the european fans are _ right. the european fans are arriving here in a confident mood. you can see them still streaming in behind me. another glorious morning here in rome. the fans were up early again. it was still pitch black when they started to get into the course. so much noise and colour, so much fancy dress, many of them charged off to the first tee to try and get a vantage point. unsurprisingly the european fancier making plenty of noise this morning after that incredible opening day. the european team, i can tell you, they made a strong start today as well. in the opening match we have rory mcilroy and tommy fleetwood. fleetwood mac is they have been dubbed, against justin thomas and jordan speith and what an incredible start it was for the european players. an incredible putt from tommy fleetwood on the second hole as europe took an early lead in that match. what a moment that was for him. that's certainly got the crowd going. europe lead in the opening two matches at the moment. the usa lead in the third but the usa know that they need something very special indeed. they need a strong start and they have not got it yet and europe will be hoping to build on the commanding thursday. brute hoping to build on the commanding thursda . i i i ii ~ hoping to build on the commanding thursda . i i i ii ,, i, hoping to build on the commanding thursda . i ii ii ,, i, ii ii thursday. we will speak to you again later. andy- — thursday. we will speak to you again later, andy. thank _ thursday. we will speak to you again later, andy. thank you. _ thursday. we will speak to you again later, andy. thank you. talking i thursday. we will speak to you again later, andy. thank you. talking of i later, andy. thank you. talking of dominance and one—sided affairs, anyone writing off new zealand at the rugby world cup will need to rethink. they announce themselves in style. scotland are on the same side of the draw and are in action later, facing romania and a chance to aput big score on the board. one of 3 games today, but all the other teams will have noticed what was happening in lyon. the all blacks demolished an italy side, who some thought might give the three—time champions a scare. instead new zealand ran in 14 tries in total in a 96—17 win. italy narrowly avoided becoming the first team since portugal in 2007, to concede 100 points in a rugby world cup match. it means new zealand are on the cusp of the quarterfinals. in rugby league, it will be an emotional day forjames roby, who will play his final home game for saints when they host warrington in this afternoon's eliminator. last night, hull kr got their revenge after losing to leigh leopards in the challenge cup final earlier this year, with hull kr, beating them in their super league eliminator 20—6. the victory puts them into the semi finals — where they'll face wigan warriors or the catalan dragons — and just one match away from their first ever appearance in the super league grand final. now some big boxing news, and an history making, undisputed heavyweight fight between champions tyson fury and oleksandr usyk, has been signed and will take place in saudi arabia. the date of the fight has yet to be confirmed — december 23rd the target — although the fight may have to wait until 2024. when it does take place, it will be the first undisputed heavyweight bout, since 1999. fury is currently preparing to face, mma star francis ngannou in a non—title fight in riyadh on october 28th. the world gymnastics championships begin tomorrow with the finals live on the bbc beginning on tuesday. a number of team gb's brightest stars are heading to antwerp including world champion jessica gadirova and, for the first time since the tokyo olympics, triple olympic champion max whitlock. i cannot wait. i am honoured to have the opportunity to represent gb again with the guys and the girls but i feel like, i feel like again with the guys and the girls but i feel like, ifeel like i have come back this time with a different mindset and in a positive way. i feel i am more chilled and things in a better perspective so i look forward to going out there, having my best shot and getting back on the world team that world stage. and fina0lly, the big names in sport are not immune to what's happening in the news and newcastle united's ground is only 30 miles from sycamore gap at hadrian's wall, where the much—loved tree was cut down to the horror of so many. while experts believe some new shoots could grow from the stump of the famous tree, they admit it'll never be the same again, and it's caused such sadness, including in the newcastle camp. iam i am really sad that i was not able to get there before what has happened in the last few days. saddened by it, really. i don't know quite how to describe it but when i heard the news i was just so disappointed that an act can ruin something that is there for the pleasure of everybody and it is such a beautiful thing. very sad. it has affected the _ a beautiful thing. very sad. it has affected the whole _ a beautiful thing. very sad. it has affected the whole area _ a beautiful thing. very sad. it has affected the whole area and they| affected the whole area and they have all gotten caught up in the story. thank you, mike. earlier this week on bbc breakfast, we launched the uk's biggest writing competition for children — 500 words. it gives young writers a chance to tell a story they'd love to read. to mark the launch, we've been meeting some everyday storytellers — as well as inspirational young people — to find out how writing can lead to bigger and better things. shaun peel has more. hello, hello. how are you doing? to see you. mr; hello, hello. how are you doing? to see ou. 3 ii hello, hello. how are you doing? to see ou. g ii i ~ ii ii hello, hello. how are you doing? to see ou. g ii i: ii iii hello, hello. how are you doing? to see ou. 3 ii i~ ii iii ii see you. my name is amanda. we all tell stories, every _ see you. my name is amanda. we all tell stories, every day. _ see you. my name is amanda. we all tell stories, every day. it _ see you. my name is amanda. we all tell stories, every day. it may - tell stories, every day. it may be about what happened at work or school, with a little embellishment. amanda smith from the charity read for good goes into hospitals like jenny lind and it spins magical yarns to help children forget their pain for a while. today, ella is the audience. i ii i i ii audience. what is exciting and interesting. — audience. what is exciting and interesting, especially - audience. what is exciting and interesting, especially about i audience. what is exciting and interesting, especially about a j interesting, especially about a story writing competition is that you start wherever you are with whatever idea ignites in your imagination and their new role with that and you do not know how it will end. it is an exciting process and when you finish, sometimes you sit there and go, well, what happened there?! i made this thing up and i had no idea that story was in me and thatis had no idea that story was in me and that is valuable.— that is valuable. these sisters from northampton _ that is valuable. these sisters from northampton entered _ that is valuable. these sisters from northampton entered 500 - that is valuable. these sisters from northampton entered 500 words i that is valuable. these sisters from i northampton entered 500 words four years ago. they did not win but they love the process so much they kept on writing and went on to self publish their own novels. now they are going to schools to inspire other students. brute are going to schools to inspire other students.— are going to schools to inspire other students. i i i, i, other students. we put our own books into school library _ other students. we put our own books into school library is _ other students. we put our own books into school library is because - other students. we put our own books into school library is because we i into school library is because we wanted to show children that no matter how young you are aware you are from, what your background is, you can do anything. 500 words is important to me because not only did it kickstart everything we do now it also taught me a lesson to say that failure does not equaljust failure. it showed me resilience and that just because you failed does not mean it is the end of the story. children between five and 11 are asked to write a fictional story that they would love to read, no more than 500 words long. what would yours be about? it more than 500 words long. what would yours be about?— yours be about? it would include a horse that could _ yours be about? it would include a horse that could maybe _ yours be about? it would include a horse that could maybe fly. - yours be about? it would include a | horse that could maybe fly. a little top trumps. _ horse that could maybe fly. a little top trumps, like the _ horse that could maybe fly. a little top trumps, like the character. i horse that could maybe fly. a little top trumps, like the character. my| top trumps, like the character. my sto top trumps, like the character. story would top trumps, like the character. my story would be set in outer space. that is _ story would be set in outer space. that is a bestseller. _ story would be set in outer space. that is a bestseller. [— story would be set in outer space. that is a bestseller.— that is a bestseller. i am going to write this- — that is a bestseller. i am going to write this. back _ that is a bestseller. i am going to write this. back at _ that is a bestseller. i am going to write this. back at the _ that is a bestseller. i am going to write this. back at the hospital, i write this. back at the hospital, ella decided that she would start writing her story.— ella decided that she would start writing her story. near the end you want to have _ writing her story. near the end you want to have bad _ writing her story. near the end you want to have bad people _ writing her story. near the end you want to have bad people but i writing her story. near the end you want to have bad people but first i want to have bad people but first you want to introduce the good people and in the middle of the story and near the end i put the bad guys and wizards and scary people, monsters and then at the end i would finish off with a happy ending with the happy people from the start who put the baddies in prison. ihshd the happy people from the start who put the baddies in prison.— put the baddies in prison. and that is the end of— put the baddies in prison. and that is the end of my _ put the baddies in prison. and that is the end of my story. _ put the baddies in prison. and that is the end of my story. the end i put the baddies in prison. and that is the end of my story. the end of| is the end of my story. the end of that story but _ is the end of my story. the end of that story but maybe _ is the end of my story. the end of that story but maybe the - is the end of my story. the end of that story but maybe the start i is the end of my story. the end of that story but maybe the start ofl that story but maybe the start of yours. shaun peel reporting there. and to find out everything you need to know and the full terms and conditions and privacy notices, head to bbc.co.uk/500words. the deadline for entry is friday 10th november 2023, at 8:00pm. we have had very good storytellers on the sofa this week. we had michael yesterday he was fascinating and also saying that when he was a kid he said what he was good at was lying and he turned that into storytelling. just to qualify that. with some success along the way. matt has the weather for us. how does the weekend look? is that a new picture? yes, look at this across tower bridge. cumulus cloud, reflecting some of that sunlight earlier as it was about to come up. it is an indication of what many have this morning. a bit of crowd around, a bit of sunshine. a dry start. it will not stay that way for everybody. there will be a wet ending to the story, because this weather system is set to push in, especially across the central strip of the uk. you can see the rain gathering as we go through the morning, probably first arriving in parts of west wales in the mid—morning, then into northern ireland for lunch, spreading north and east. to the south and east it will stay dry with the occasional bit bit of sunshine, the far north of scotland, a dry day, only one or two isolated showers. rain taking hold across much of northern ireland, pushing to south—western scotland and northern england, with strong and gusty winds developing around irish sea coasts as well. away from that, northern, eastern and the far south of the country staying dry, temperature is fairly similar to yesterday. going into this evening and overnight, the first batch of heavy rain out of the way, wetter conditions into northern scotland, then more heavy rain into parts of northern ireland, north and west wales, as we go through to tomorrow morning. temperatures tonight higher than last night, staying in double figures, may be 16 or 17 as a lawyer towards the south of england and wales, because we are dragging in this plume of humid air coming in on the south—westerly winds. a muggy feeling day, especially for england and wales. misty and murky in places tomorrow, the north of england and north—west wales, heavy rain at times through the morning. that will ease as it spreads into the midlands and east anglia later in the afternoon. a fair bit of sunshine developing, a few showers in western scotland, the south—east corner, staying dry throughout. here we can see temperatures 23 or 24 celsius. that is well above where we should be for the first day of october. that stays in place as we go through the night and into monday, much of europe sitting on a high pressure on monday as well, they want to here but we will tap into this weather system that will push its way in gradually from the south—west as we go through monday. could be quite murky to begin with. across the south, heavy rain, even thundery rain developing, with a few heavy showers further east. northern half of the country, largely dry, a few isolated showers and feeling fresher than it does in the south—west corner. how should one tv channel cover the troubles of another tv channel. welcome to news watch, with me, samir ahmed. welcome to news watch, with me, samirahmed. —— samira. coming up: gb news is underfire after offensive comments were made on air, but was on newsnight fair to the channel in the way it covered it on wednesday? and why were bbc one viewers tweeted to a 2017 edition of news watch last weekend? first, has brexit disappeared from the public discourse? for many people, the decision to leave the uk is now history in the country has moved on, but for others it is still very much a live issue. ibis reported on saturday afternoon, on the news channel. pro—european protesters are marching in central london today. the national rejoin march is due to culminate with a rally at parliament square. they want the prospect of britain rejoining the european union back on the political agenda. but rejoining the european union back on the political agenda.— the political agenda. but that 20 seconds or _ the political agenda. but that 20 seconds or so _ the political agenda. but that 20 seconds or so was _ the political agenda. but that 20 seconds or so was pretty - the political agenda. but that 20 seconds or so was pretty much i the political agenda. but that 20 l seconds or so was pretty much the limit of bbc television reporting of the national rejoin march, which didn't feature on bbc one's news bulletins. as well as the thousands in the streets of central london on saturday, hundreds of others then contacted the bbc to complain about what they saw as insufficient coverage of the event. one of them was sued by an article he recorded this video for us. this was sued by an article he recorded this video for us.— this video for us. this march was covered by _ this video for us. this march was covered by various _ this video for us. this march was covered by various foreign i this video for us. this march was covered by various foreign news | covered by various foreign news channels and also various uk and international newspapers. who made the decision not to cover it, and why not? as their hasn't been a deliberate decision to downplay the effect of brexit on the lives of everyday people, or is it more sinister than that? is the bbc under instruction not to broadcast anything which could be critical of the government? i would like some answers, please. this the government? i would like some answers, please.— answers, please. this was the statement _ answers, please. this was the statement issued _ answers, please. this was the statement issued in _ answers, please. this was the | statement issued in response. perhaps to the bbc�*s relief, and other news broadcasting organisation has been in the spotlight this week. gb news, who have suspended contributor laurence fox and suspended dan wootton, after what the channel themselves called unacceptable on—air comments by fox about a female journalist, which they said were insufficiently challenged by the presenter. the channel was the subject of a discussion on wednesday's newswatch on bbc two. i ii i, ii i, on bbc two. these are poundland fox news channels. _ on bbc two. these are poundland fox news channels, these _ news channels, these right—wing channels. what you do is, you use shock and awe. this channels. what you do is, you use shock and awe.— shock and awe. this is what it is about. frankly, _ shock and awe. this is what it is about. frankly, what _ shock and awe. this is what it is about. frankly, what ofcom i shock and awe. this is what it is i about. frankly, what ofcom should do is shut_ about. frankly, what ofcom should do is shut it _ about. frankly, what ofcom should do is shut it down, the same way it shut_ is shut it down, the same way it shut down— is shut it down, the same way it shut down rt. | is shut it down, the same way it shut down rt.— is shut it down, the same way it shut down rt. i actually agree with that, it shut down rt. i actually agree with that. it should _ shut down rt. i actually agree with that, it should have _ shut down rt. i actually agree with that, it should have been - shut down rt. i actually agree with that, it should have been taken - shut down rt. i actually agree with that, it should have been taken off| that, it should have been taken off air, it _ that, it should have been taken off air, it was — that, it should have been taken off air, it was entirely— that, it should have been taken off air, it was entirely predictable - air, it was entirely predictable laurence _ air, it was entirely predictable laurence fox _ air, it was entirely predictable laurence fox would _ air, it was entirely predictable laurence fox would come - air, it was entirely predictable laurence fox would come out| air, it was entirely predictable - laurence fox would come out with a statement _ laurence fox would come out with a statement that offensive. _ laurence fox would come out with a statement that offensive. the - statement that offensive. the olitical statement that offensive. the political blogger _ statement that offensive. political blogger guido statement that offensive.- political blogger guido fawkes invited his followers to complain to the regulator, ofcom, about what he called newsnight�*s extreme and unbalanced coverage of gb news, arguing impartiality rules had been breached. one viewer followed that advice and submitted an ofcom complaint. he wrote: well, the reason why there was some unanimity among the panel could be explained by what presenter victoria derbyshire said at the start of the discussion. we derbyshire said at the start of the discussion. ~ ., r' derbyshire said at the start of the discussion-— discussion. we did ask for an interview _ discussion. we did ask for an interview with _ discussion. we did ask for an interview with the _ discussion. we did ask for an interview with the boss - discussion. we did ask for an interview with the boss of. discussion. we did ask for an i interview with the boss of gb discussion. we did ask for an - interview with the boss of gb news. he said he could not come on until he had completed his investigation. later in the wait, that boss told the radio for�*s today programme that he was appalled by the remarks made by laurence fox. fox himself apologised. ofcom launched an investigation into whether the gb news broadcast broke its rules on offence. let's talk now to the editor of newsnight, stuart maclean. thank you for coming on news watch. three voices, nobody giving the gb news point of view.— news point of view. shouldn't you have not news point of view. shouldn't you have got someone? _ news point of view. shouldn't you have got someone? well, - news point of view. shouldn't you have got someone? well, i - news point of view. shouldn't you have got someone? well, i think| news point of view. shouldn't you i have got someone? well, i think not make the starting point is that we would always seek to ensure that every discussion we do on a live issue like this is as balanced as possible, with a range of voices. as your clip showed, victoria was very clear on the programme, we did invite gb news to appear on the programme and we understood at the time they were unable to because they were conducting an investigation into doctor mike you could have got someone else, to express their point of view. well, thank you, absolutely. and we have a production team at newsnight who spend many hours a day working to find guests from across a range of views, and we tried many people, people who used to work the gb news, many others who might be sympathetic to gb news, and unfortunately on wednesday we were not able to find anyone who could come on. i think it is worth saying we don't get everything right all the time. i have watched that discussion, i'm quite happy to accept that discussion would have been better, had we had that range of views and had we had that range of views and had we had a robust defender of gb news. i am sure your viewers will understand that when we are putting out live news programmes, two things are true. one is that you never quite know the direction in discussion might go, when you are on air, and the second thing is it is often hard to pin down guests, especially for a late news programme, who are available and able to come on. not every item can be perfect. we strive for total balance, we bring in as wide a range of views is possible that every time. that is really a guiding principle of every programme we make. as we said wednesday, we don't always hit that mark. when we don't get it right, we acknowledge it. that is appreciated. why don't you ask laurence fox?— that is appreciated. why don't you ask laurence fox? at the time of our broadcast on — ask laurence fox? at the time of our broadcast on thursday, _ ask laurence fox? at the time of our broadcast on thursday, laurence - ask laurence fox? at the time of our broadcast on thursday, laurence foxi broadcast on thursday, laurence fox had made it clear he was not prepared to apologise for what he had said, and he was questioning the motives of media organisations that were covering the programme. so on that occasion he was not somebody we invited onto the programme. we did invited onto the programme. we did invite many other people at gb news, including dan wootton and the station's boss. none of them were able to come on. i assure you, we did invite a whole number of people who would speak in favour of the channel, but given the difficulties of the time, none of them are available to come on.- of the time, none of them are available to come on. you could have asked laurence _ available to come on. you could have asked laurence fox _ available to come on. you could have asked laurence fox and _ available to come on. you could have | asked laurence fox and pre-recorded asked laurence fox and pre—recorded him? asked laurence fox and pre-recorded him? ., . asked laurence fox and pre-recorded him? . . ., ., , , him? laurence fox had been very clear in the _ him? laurence fox had been very clear in the course _ him? laurence fox had been very clear in the course of that - him? laurence fox had been very clear in the course of that day - him? laurence fox had been very clear in the course of that day on | clear in the course of that day on his social media that he was not prepared to do any pre—recorded interviews, and we only do live interviews, and we only do live interviews, so that was not an option. interviews, so that was not an 0 tion. , , ., interviews, so that was not an otion. , ,, ., ., interviews, so that was not an otion. , ., ., ,. ,, ., option. did you have a discussion with more senior _ option. did you have a discussion with more senior editorial- option. did you have a discussion with more senior editorial figures at the bbc about whether it was ok to go ahead without that missing point of view, which as you said, would have made for a better discussion?— would have made for a better discussion? ., �* �* �* discussion? no, we didn't. the bbc does not often _ discussion? no, we didn't. the bbc does not often work _ discussion? no, we didn't. the bbc does not often work in _ discussion? no, we didn't. the bbc does not often work in that - discussion? no, we didn't. the bbc does not often work in that way. i discussion? no, we didn't. the bbc| does not often work in that way. the discussion, it is worth saying, was not just about gb discussion, it is worth saying, was notjust about gb news. it was a broader discussion with three very well informed people who know a lot about the broadcasting landscape, and although the discussion started focusing on gb news it was broader in scope and we were talking about the regulatory environment, and each of those people on the panel had a lot of experience in the area. so although we didn't have anyone who was on their mac representing gb news, there were a range of views on there, including a conservative mp. we often get complaints that programmes like newsnight are obsessed with talking about the media, and given that you did not have all the sides, perhaps it was justified, but was itjustified to give so much discussion time to it? people think you are always talking about yourselves, in some way. i am about yourselves, in some way. i am not sure that — about yourselves, in some way. i am not sure that is _ about yourselves, in some way. i am not sure that is fair. _ about yourselves, in some way. i am not sure that is fair. a _ about yourselves, in some way. i—n not sure that is fair. a programme like newsnight generally covers two or three stories in depth every night. we actually let our programme on wednesday with a very long film from the front line in ukraine, and we have done a lot of coverage of foreign news all this week. i think on wednesday the row about gb news and, for us, the broader question is that it raised around broadcasting in the uk, and some of the rules around that, it was one of the hot topics for discussion. i around that, it was one of the hot topics for discussion.— topics for discussion. i think it is erfectl topics for discussion. i think it is perfectly relevant _ topics for discussion. i think it is perfectly relevant area - topics for discussion. i think it is perfectly relevant area for - topics for discussion. i think it is perfectly relevant area for us - topics for discussion. i think it is perfectly relevant area for us to | perfectly relevant area for us to explore. stewart, thank youse so much for coming news watch. it is really appreciated. you much for coming news watch. it is really appreciated.— much for coming news watch. it is really appreciated. finally, when things go wrong somewhere on bbc news, we sometimes feature those moments on newswatch, if they have elicited complaints or comments from you. so it is only fair that when there is a problem with news watch —— my newswatch itself, we should highlight that also, and explained what happened. so let's take a look at last saturday's transmission of the programme on bbc one as part of breakfast. hello, and will to news watch, with me, samirahmed. how does hello, and will to news watch, with me, samir ahmed. how does the bbc source and verify the flood of user generated content it gets after a terrorist attack or a natural disaster doctor mac regular viewers will have immediately spotted that is not our current studio or title sequence, and irregular ones will not have taken much longer to realise that a clip of home secretary amber rudd speaking to andrew marr that this was an old edition of newswatch. exactly six years old, in fact, originally shown on september 20 two, 2017. human error meant that similarly dated addition was played instead of last week's programme, which had already gone out correctly in ourii:30pm which had already gone out correctly in our 11:30pm slot on friday evening on the news channel. mark powell had posted this: open the fact that bbc breakfast accidentally showed an old episode of newswatch this morning means that people who complain to newswatch about news will complain about is to newswatch, and i think the may implode close quote. maggie's human was similarly troubled. slow brain this morning, hang on, she isn't in government any more, that is the old set, andrew marr doesn't have that show any more. and annette plays a open question two was not shown on bbc breakfast today. was this sabotage because it was about russell brand? instead they started showing an old episode, and then stopped then stopped it. what is going on close quote? the old episode was pulled off air after a couple of minutes when the mistake was realised and the correct edition appeared on sunday's breakfast instead. so no sabotage. we apologise for the year and have taken steps to make sure it does not happen again. and a reminder that we are always watchable on the bbc iplayer, where you can catch up on that edition and any other from the whole of the past year. let'sjust any other from the whole of the past year. let's just hope that you are watching the correct programme right now! thank you for all of your comments this week. if you want to share your opinions about what you see or hear on bbc news, on tv, radio, online and on social media, e—mail us orfind us on x, formerly known as twitter. you can also call us. to have a look at previous interviews on our website. that is all from us for now. thanks for joining us. to think about getting in touch or perhaps even coming on the programme. we will be back to him more of your thoughts about how the bbc covers the news next week. goodbye. good morning. welcome to breakfast with sarah campbell and charlie stayt. our headlines today... the is—year—old girl killed in a school bus crash on the m53 is named asjessica baker. the driver also died in friday's accident. new hope of a much faster radiotherapy treatment for thousands of men diagnosed with prostate cancer. 27 years after the us rapper tupac shakur was fatally shot in las vegas, a former gang leader is charged with his murder. good morning... ruling the roost in rome... europe are aiming to keep their momentum going, after building up a record equalling a 5 point lead, on the opening day of the ryder cup, with the usa failing to win a single match. as the investigation continues into who cut down the world—famous sycamore gap tree in northumberland — we're live on location to look at the future for the landmark and a dry start for the weekend. elsewhere, cloud gathers but he is your forecast coming up on breakfast. it's saturday the 30th of september. our main story. a teenage girl who died after a school bus crashed on the motorway in merseyside has been named as is—year—old jessica baker. she was killed along with the coach driver in the collision on the m53 at morning rush hour yesterday. several other children were injured. our correspondent helena wilkinson has the latest. this is is—year—old jessica baker, one of the schoolchildren on the bus he was killed in the crash. the driver who has been named online as stephen shrimpton has also died. more than 50 children were on their way to school when theirjourney endedin way to school when theirjourney ended in tragedy. this is the aftermath of the crash on the m 53 near merseyside. the coach overturned. it happened after 8am, a major incident was declared. police, ambulance and fire crews were quickly sent to the scene. fiur quickly sent to the scene. our thou . hts quickly sent to the scene. our thoughts are _ quickly sent to the scene. our thoughts are very _ quickly sent to the scene. treatment. the children were going to two schools. the _ treatment. the children were going to two schools. the boys _ treatment. the children were going to two schools. the boys to - treatment. the children were going to two schools. the boys to the - to two schools. the boys to the grammar school and the girls to west kirby grammar school. they are being provided with specialist trauma support. so are other children who were in buses travelling in convoy with the ones that crashed. police are appealing to anyone with —— cam footage to contact them urgently as investigators establish how the crash happened. it's left a families devastated. helena wilkinson, bbc news. is—year—old jessica baker was a pupil at west kirby grammar school. our reporter yunus mulla is there now. yunus — what more do we know? we can see some of the tributes laid out. ., �* , we can see some of the tributes laid out. . �* , ., , we can see some of the tributes laid out. . �*, ., , , ., out. that's right, over my shoulder out. that's right, over my shoulder ou can out. that's right, over my shoulder you can see — out. that's right, over my shoulder you can see the — out. that's right, over my shoulder you can see the flowers _ out. that's right, over my shoulder you can see the flowers that - out. that's right, over my shoulder you can see the flowers that have i you can see the flowers that have been _ you can see the flowers that have been left — you can see the flowers that have been left outside the entrance to west— been left outside the entrance to west kirby grammar school. one message — west kirby grammar school. one message simply reads, sorry to see you go _ message simply reads, sorry to see you go. thoughts are with your fanrity — you go. thoughts are with your famil ., ,, you go. thoughts are with your famil -. ,, you go. thoughts are with your famil ., ,, ., you go. thoughts are with your famil. ,, . family. jessica was on the bus which overturned on _ family. jessica was on the bus which overturned on the _ family. jessica was on the bus which overturned on the m _ family. jessica was on the bus which overturned on the m 53 _ family. jessica was on the bus which overturned on the m 53 sparking - family. jessica was on the bus which overturned on the m 53 sparking a l overturned on the m 53 sparking a major incident. she was killed. a 14—year—old boy was left with life changing industries. the boys from the grammar school a short distance away were travelling in convoy with that vehicle as well. the bus driver was also killed. details have emerged about him over the past few hours or so. he has been named online as stephen shrimpton. his family have posted a fund raising page. they said he suffered medical issues at the wheel. they say he leaves a widow and two young children. the families of those involved are being supported by specialist officers and liaison officers. the schools have a wide catchment so there will be a number of areas affected. the mp for birkenhead hasidic community will come together to support the families involved in what he describes as an absolute tragedy. —— birkenhead says the community. the time now is five minutes past eight. we've got more news for you now. police in the us have charged a former gang leader with murdering the rapper tupac shakur 27 years ago. the hip hop artist was killed in a drive—by shooting in las vegas. our north america correspondent, barbara plett usher, has the latest. # i see no changes. # all i see is racist faces. tupac shakur is still one of the best selling and most influential rappers of all time. he took off after the release of his debut album in 1991. just five years later, he was gunned down. his career cut short. shot on the las vegas strip while waiting at a red light. hit by bullets fired from a passing cadillac, he died six days later. now, after 27 years, police have finally arrested a suspect. 27 years. for 27 years, the family of tupac shakur has been waiting forjustice. we are here today to announce the arrest of 60—year—old dwayne keith davis, a.k.a. keef e d for the murder of tupac shakur. he was the leader of a gang that was feuding with tupac�*s record label, death row records. police said the whole thing started with this fight at a las vegas hotel. tupac and record executive suge knight punched and kicked a rival gang member. keef e d is accused of then hatching the plan to retaliate fast forward to july this year. police raided his home in a los angeles suburb. he's the man on the right. the case had been revived in recent years, using his own words about the incident published in a memoir. tupac�*s musical legacy was honored at the hollywood walk of fame earlier this year. the questions surrounding his death have also gripped his fans. they may soon get their answers. barbara plett usher, bbc news, washington. two people were taken to hospital after the flying scotsman steam train was involved in a crash with another heritage train in the cairngorms. the low speed collision took place at aviemore railway station, in the scottish highlands. three other people were treated at the scene. police said no injuries were serious. a man in his 60s has been arrested by police investigating the cutting down of the famous sycamore gap tree in northumberland. the landmark was felled overnight on wednesday. a ig—year—old boy, who was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage, has been released on bail. local councils in england could be curbed from introducing 20 mile per hour speed limits on their roads. it's one of several transport proposals to be announced by the prime minister, to end what he called a "war on motorists". labour said rishi sunak had thirteen years of tory failure to defend — from potholes to petrol prices. more than 30 conservative mps have said they won't vote for any it comes ahead of the party's annual conference this weekend. let's speak to our political correspondent tony bonsignore. good morning. the conference starts tomorrow. ., , good morning. the conference starts tomorrow. ., ., , . good morning. the conference starts tomorrow. ., , ., , tomorrow. today, the topic is taxes. yes. tomorrow. today, the topic is taxes. yes- you've — tomorrow. today, the topic is taxes. yes. you've heard _ tomorrow. today, the topic is taxes. yes. you've heard a _ tomorrow. today, the topic is taxes. yes. you've heard a few _ tomorrow. today, the topic is taxes. yes. you've heard a few of _ tomorrow. today, the topic is taxes. yes. you've heard a few of them - yes. you've heard a few of them already this morning talk about motorists, low traffic neighbourhoods. i think the issue of tax though and what should be the conservative approach to tax going into the next general election next year should be one of the hot topics in manchester. what's that you've had today is a group of 30 conservative mps signing a pledge, sirjack berry writing an article today saying that they won't support further taxes and they should be moving towards a low tax economy to get economic growth going. there are no tax rises imminent but this is really about positioning, drawing a line in the sand. we heard from jeremy hunt today. he says we need to end the vicious cycle of tax rises but the way he says to do that is use modern technology to make the public sector more progressive and reform the benefit system as well. i think it's going to be a huge topic of debate in manchester. in a sense, it's still the same debate we were having a year ago when we had the mini budget. there is this debate within the party about whether low taxes are the cause of economic growth or whether they are something we need to deal with as a hangover from ukraine and the coronavirus academic. —— the coronavirus pandemic. rail passengers are facing more disruption today as around i2—thousand train drivers stage their latest one—day strike over pay and conditions. the fresh wave of action, by members of the aslef union, means fewer than half of trains will be operating. our business correspondent, marc ashdown, reports. pubs, bars and restaurants are facing a difficult weekend. the latest strike by train drivers means a likely drop in customers and takings. some of the biggest names in the hospitality world have written an open letter to the main players involved in this rail dispute, urging them to do a deal before christmas or at least commit to cooling things off during such a busy period. the loss of christmas trade... last year, we know that for the christmas hit with strikes, it cost the sector 1.5 billion. if we were to lose another christmas, we've lost two to covid completely to two rail strikes. that golden period of time that is so valuable and so vital to our profitability, that would take the sector's losses to close to £5 billion. that's just unsustainable for many of these small businesses in towns and city centres. travelling anywhere by train is going to be difficult. today, around 12,000 members of the aslaug union are staging a 2k hour strike in their long running dispute over pay. members of the conservative party might have a frustrating time trying to get to their annual conference, which starts in manchester tomorrow. it's going to be a tough week all round for train passengers after today's one day strike. it's going to be a tough week all round for train passengers after today's one day strike. the union is also carrying out an overtime ban from monday to friday, so services will be limited all week. drivers will also walk out again for another 2a hour strike on wednesday. and in london, members of the rmt union working at london underground will stage two 24—hour walkouts on the tube on wednesday and friday in their dispute over potentialjob losses. today is the 13th time train drivers have walked out in the past 16 months. aslaug has rejected a pay offer of li% for last year and the same for this year. and as it stands, there are no fresh negotiations planned. we've been saying we need to find a way out of this. it has to be a deal thatis way out of this. it has to be a deal that is truly reasonable and not falsely claimed to be reasonable. falsely claim to be reasonable. union leaders say they regret having to take yet more strike action and maintain they are open to fresh talks on the other side of the table. the group representing the rail companies has apologised to passengers and said it too wants to resolve things. but hospitality bosses ahead of their crucial busiest festive trading period are fearful. mark ashdown, bbc news. it's 13 minutes past eight. we're not sure what plans you have the weekend. maybe you to nice weather? here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. if you are in lancashire or parts of the western uk make the most of it because where we will see those clouds been swapped for something much greyer, this outbreak of rain. these strengthening winds too. it will take awhile to sweeping and it will take awhile to sweeping and it will be top and tail the country. but most will starts the day with some sunshine. moving to in towards the south—east. for scotland, staying dry, in between whether cloud increases for parts of northern and west wales. heavy bursts and during the afternoon that spread into western parts of northern england and the south west of scotland. it's going to limit the temperatures with the strong winds around the irish coast. 22 celsius in the south—east. we see that first batch of heavy rain working its way out into the north sea and then later, northern england and north wales will see heavy bursts of rain. either side of that, dry weather to end the night in a pretty warm night, 16—17 c end the night in a pretty warm night, 16—17 c and feeling humid with it. humid south of the weather front which will produce rain across wales. the rain fragments, eases a little bit but heads toward south—west england and lincolnshire as we head into the afternoon. some sunny breaks but a lot more sunshine to the north of that rain area. temperatures here, 17 celsius. upon today's value so it shouldn't feel too bad. 23—24 c, pretty warm for the first day of october. were still on the edge of it and that does allow this next weather system to sneak its way in as we go through monday so well that we are reasonably dry start they will be a bit of brightness breaking through the merc. heavy thundery downpours through the midlands and the south—east. parts of northern england, scotland and northern ireland, staying dry but one or two isolated showers and a bit fresher than tomorrow. back to the studio. it's 8:16am. an international trial has found that thousands of men every year could be successfully treated with a more intense form of radiotherapy which would significantly shorten the time it takes to treat them. prostate cancer is the most common cancer in men — with 52,000 cases diagnosed every year. 1 in 8 men and 1 in 1! black men will be affected. and 12,000 die from it every year. the study was led by the royal marsden hospital in london which said the treatment could help 8,000 men a year and would help ease pressure on the nhs. here's our medical editor fergus walsh. there was no pain or inconvenience. the treatment was just so easy and swift there was no downside to it. alistair kennedy rose feels extremely fortunate to have had his prostate cancer treated in just five sessions of radiotherapy. eight years on, the 64—year—old is still cancer free. it was almost as though i'd never had prostate cancer because i didn't have any symptoms to start with. and the treatment was so easy, ultimately, so very effective. he was treated here at the royal marsden hospital in london as part of a pivotal trial involving nearly 900 men at 38 hospitals in the uk, ireland and canada. all the men had medium risk prostate cancer, which had not spread. after five years 96% of the men who'd had five high doses of multiple beam radiotherapy were cancer free, compared to 95% who'd had at least 20 doses of standard radiotherapy. both groups had low side effects. the pink area is the prostate gland. the medical director of the royal marsden led the international trial. for him, this is a big moment. when i got the results, i was literally i was blown away. i mean, it was probably one of the best days of my career. i think it's fantastic news for patients and it's brilliant news for the nhs. so what are the implications? well, it's going to be an enormous change. i expect that the nhs will rapidly adopt this. so instead of giving 20 doses of radiotherapy, we can give five. if we extrapolate that across the whole nhs, that's hundreds of thousands of doses of radiotherapy that are going to be saved. and in a system which is quite under pressure, that's going to be very welcome. another likely change is less use of hormone therapy in future. none of the men on the trial was given any and so were spared the side effects like extreme fatigue, hot flushes and low libido. it'll mean a better experience for thousands of men with prostate cancer every year who'll be able to have all their radiotherapy treatment injust a week and without the need for hormone therapy. very quiet, peaceful. alistair�*s prostate cancer was picked up after a simple blood test. he wants all men over 50 to get themselves checked. fergus walsh, bbc news. we are nowjoined by dr alison tree, consultant clinical oncologist at the royal marsden. a lot of people will be watching and be very interested in the results. it's been a long project but we are so excited — it's been a long project but we are so excited to see this come out. and for nrany— so excited to see this come out. and for many men who have been diagnosed with prostate cancer across the uk. can you _ with prostate cancer across the uk. can you take us through the key findings and the difference it will make? ,, ., ., findings and the difference it will make? ., ., ., , ., make? so, what we found was that five da s make? so, what we found was that five days of— make? so, what we found was that five days of outpatient _ make? so, what we found was that five days of outpatient radio - five days of outpatient radio therapy _ five days of outpatient radio therapy treatment isjust five days of outpatient radio therapy treatment is just as good as therapy treatment is just as good as the long _ therapy treatment is just as good as the long more arduous treatment. there _ the long more arduous treatment. there were — the long more arduous treatment. there were 95% of men free of cancer with low _ there were 95% of men free of cancer with low levels of side effects which — with low levels of side effects which is — with low levels of side effects which is fantastic. it�*s with low levels of side effects which is fantastic.— with low levels of side effects which is fantastic. it's charlie and the studio- _ which is fantastic. it's charlie and the studio. a _ which is fantastic. it's charlie and the studio. a lot _ which is fantastic. it's charlie and the studio. a lot of _ which is fantastic. it's charlie and the studio. a lot of people - which is fantastic. it's charlie and the studio. a lot of people asking straightaway when will everyone he straightaway when will everyone be able to access this treatment. the aood able to access this treatment. the good news — able to access this treatment. the good news about this is that there's so many— good news about this is that there's so many centres using this trial so that nrost— so many centres using this trial so that most uk radio therapy centres have the _ that most uk radio therapy centres have the kit and know how to deliver this treatment so it can be rolled out really— this treatment so it can be rolled out really quickly to the whole country — out really quickly to the whole count . ., , ., ., out really quickly to the whole count . ., ,, ., , out really quickly to the whole count . ., ., , ., country. can you tell me a bit more about that- — country. can you tell me a bit more about that. are _ country. can you tell me a bit more about that. are there _ country. can you tell me a bit more about that. are there still - about that. are there still procedures to be gone through. are there more tests or is it waiting for a signature somewhere? well, es. i for a signature somewhere? well, yes- i think _ for a signature somewhere? well, yes- i think we _ for a signature somewhere? well, yes. i think we are _ for a signature somewhere? well, yes. i think we are ready - for a signature somewhere? well, yes. i think we are ready to - for a signature somewhere? well, yes. i think we are ready to go. i for a signature somewhere? well, yes. i think we are ready to go. the radiotherapy— yes. i think we are ready to go. the radiotherapy community has worked hard to— radiotherapy community has worked hard to make this ready to roll out across the — hard to make this ready to roll out across the uk with different machines and we know we can deliver it safely— machines and we know we can deliver it safely at— machines and we know we can deliver it safely at over 30 centres in the uk so _ it safely at over 30 centres in the uk so it's— it safely at over 30 centres in the uk so it's ready to go. find it safely at over 30 centres in the uk so it's ready to go. and whenever one of these — uk so it's ready to go. and whenever one of these new _ uk so it's ready to go. and whenever one of these new developments i uk so it's ready to go. and whenever one of these new developments gets talked about, one of the questions askedis talked about, one of the questions asked is whether it's going to be more expensive so could you take us through that side of things? so more expensive so could you take us through that side of things?- through that side of things? so the nhs is under _ through that side of things? so the nhs is under a _ through that side of things? so the nhs is under a lot _ through that side of things? so the nhs is under a lot of— through that side of things? so the nhs is under a lot of pressure, i nhs is under a lot of pressure, there _ nhs is under a lot of pressure, there are — nhs is under a lot of pressure, there are lot of radiographers —— a shortage _ there are lot of radiographers —— a shortage of— there are lot of radiographers —— a shortage of radiographers but we can make _ shortage of radiographers but we can make this _ shortage of radiographers but we can make this available to every man with prostate cancer so we can deliver— with prostate cancer so we can deliver them straightaway now. it! was deliver them straightaway now. it was referenced in the film a moment ago, not all prostate cancer is diagnosed early enough and it may be further progressed. are you now working on the next step of your trials to see whether some of the things you've looked at now could work in other circumstances? exactly that. work in other circumstances? exactly that- we've — work in other circumstances? exactly that. we've already _ work in other circumstances? exactly that. we've already recruited - work in other circumstances? exactly that. we've already recruited 1200 i that. we've already recruited 1200 men for— that. we've already recruited 1200 men for our— that. we've already recruited 1200 men for our next study which is looking — men for our next study which is looking at— men for our next study which is looking at men with more advanced prostate _ looking at men with more advanced prostate cancer to see you the five treatments isjust prostate cancer to see you the five treatments is just as good for those men too _ treatments is just as good for those men too. but for early cancer this is applicable but for further advance _ is applicable but for further advance cancer that they will be waiting — advance cancer that they will be waiting a — advance cancer that they will be waiting a little bit longer, i'm afraid — waiting a little bit longer, i'm afraid. ~ ., waiting a little bit longer, i'm afraid. ~ . ., ., afraid. what about timing and the difference in _ afraid. what about timing and the difference in terms _ afraid. what about timing and the difference in terms of _ afraid. what about timing and the difference in terms of treatment i afraid. what about timing and the i difference in terms of treatment and also side effects? the difference in terms of treatment and also side effects?— also side effects? the differencing timin: is also side effects? the differencing timing is massive. _ also side effects? the differencing timing is massive. men _ also side effects? the differencing timing is massive. men come i also side effects? the differencing i timing is massive. men come between monday— timing is massive. men come between monday and _ timing is massive. men come between monday and friday for four to ten weeks _ monday and friday for four to ten weeks of— monday and friday for four to ten weeks of treatment. it's10—15 minutes— weeks of treatment. it's10—15 minutes of treatment but if you imagine — minutes of treatment but if you imagine the impact on that man's life, imagine the impact on that man's life. being — imagine the impact on that man's life, being away from work, driving to hospital. — life, being away from work, driving to hospital, to treat in five treatments is a massive step forward _ treatments is a massive step forward. with such high cure rate of over 95%— forward. with such high cure rate of over 95% and low levels of side effect, — over 95% and low levels of side effect, lower than we would have expected — effect, lower than we would have expected when we started to study it really _ expected when we started to study it really is _ expected when we started to study it really is a _ expected when we started to study it really is a win — win. help expected when we started to study it really is a win - win.— really is a win - win. help us with this one- — really is a win - win. help us with this one. was _ really is a win - win. help us with this one. was there _ really is a win - win. help us with this one. was there a _ really is a win - win. help us with this one. was there a eureka i this one. was there a eureka moments? was there are moments where you went, do you know what? this is a game — changer. we'vejust heard about it as the public but i presume there was a moment. in a hospital? in a laboratory?— there was a moment. in a hospital? in a laboratory? this goes back over a decade or— in a laboratory? this goes back over a decade or more, _ in a laboratory? this goes back over a decade or more, this _ in a laboratory? this goes back over a decade or more, this work - in a laboratory? this goes back over a decade or more, this work and i in a laboratory? this goes back over a decade or more, this work and it l a decade or more, this work and it was one _ a decade or more, this work and it was one of— a decade or more, this work and it was one of the predecessors who ran a trial— was one of the predecessors who ran a trial showed that four weeks was good _ a trial showed that four weeks was good at _ a trial showed that four weeks was good at eight weeks and say the natural— good at eight weeks and say the natural extension which has been led is to say. _ natural extension which has been led is to say, can — natural extension which has been led is to say, can we drop it down to five days— is to say, can we drop it down to five days and may be in the future less five days and may be in the future iess than — five days and may be in the future less than five treatments. we are delighted — less than five treatments. we are delighted we've got that although it was a _ delighted we've got that although it was a slow process. earl}r delighted we've got that although it was a slow process.— was a slow process. early diagnosis is ke , was a slow process. early diagnosis is key. isn't — was a slow process. early diagnosis is key. isn't it? _ was a slow process. early diagnosis is key, isn't it? absolutely. - was a slow process. early diagnosis is key, isn't it? absolutely. you i is key, isn't it? absolutely. you have to get yourself checked otherwise none of this can happen. sadly, prostate cancer is asymptomatic, it has no symptoms so is often _ asymptomatic, it has no symptoms so is often found late. we want to find a eariy _ is often found late. we want to find a early so _ is often found late. we want to find a early so we have a good chance of curing _ a early so we have a good chance of curing it~ _ a early so we have a good chance of curing it if— a early so we have a good chance of curing it. if men are worried or want _ curing it. if men are worried or want to— curing it. if men are worried or want to check, cancer uk have a risk checker— want to check, cancer uk have a risk checker and — want to check, cancer uk have a risk checker and then you can go to your gp for— checker and then you can go to your gp for a _ checker and then you can go to your gp for a blood test. the checker and then you can go to your gp for a blood test.— gp for a blood test. the time is sam. as the weather turns colder, we're all starting to think more about our energy bills and whether it's worth turning that radiator on. but there are warnings that energy suppliers are holding on to too much of our money in the form of account credit. figures seen by radio 4's money box reveal energy companies are holding on to more than £8 billion, overfour times as much as customers owe them. dan whitworth from money box joins us now. dan, what are your thoughts on those figures and what do they tell us? it's a lot of money! it's a huge amount of money and i think the industry has legitimate questions thanit industry has legitimate questions than it needs to look to answer on this. we did some digging. the figures are as credible as they come because they come from ofgem who is the industry regulator and what it shows us, and those figures that 8.1 billion that is just from january, february and march this year. and no one is saying that there is anything wrong with credit per se. sometimes you wrong with credit per se. sometimes y°u pay wrong with credit per se. sometimes you pay a little bit more than you actually use in the summer so you build up that credit so that come september october it's good to then use in the winter when your bills are higher and you are still paying the same amount. it are higher and you are still paying the same amount.— are higher and you are still paying the same amount. it helps smooth out the same amount. it helps smooth out the bills. the same amount. it helps smooth out the bills- how — the same amount. it helps smooth out the mus. how is _ the same amount. it helps smooth out the mus. how is it— the same amount. it helps smooth out the bills. how is it impacting _ the bills. how is it impacting customers? if the bills. how is it impacting customers?— the bills. how is it impacting customers? 3 ., ~' customers? if it's working well it should rrot _ customers? if it's working well it should not be _ customers? if it's working well it should not be impacting - customers? if it's working well it i should not be impacting customers but, again, that takes into account the over that 12 month period your balance wants to be zero because you've earned it over the summer and paid it off in the winter. round about april or may that's when you're credit should be £0 but we are in reality so it should be close to that. the problem is when that system doesn't work well in excess credit build—up. i've been speaking to dan malcolm who suffers from just that problem. he pays by direct debit but then basically one time he checked his bill, he doesn't look at it all the time, i certainly don't manage my bills like that, he found he had £1100 in credit and you try to get £800 of that back and he told me he had a real problem just getting that money back. it’s getting that money back. it's laughable. — getting that money back. it's laughable. it _ getting that money back. it's laughable, it shouldn't take me three _ laughable, it shouldn't take me three phone _ laughable, it shouldn't take me three phone calls— laughable, it shouldn't take me three phone calls and _ laughable, it shouldn't take me three phone calls and a - laughable, it shouldn't take me three phone calls and a monthl laughable, it shouldn't take me i three phone calls and a month and a half to— three phone calls and a month and a half to get— three phone calls and a month and a half to get £800 _ three phone calls and a month and a half to get £800 back. _ three phone calls and a month and a half to get £800 back. it's— three phone calls and a month and a half to get £800 back. it's not - three phone calls and a month and a half to get £800 back. it's not like l half to get £800 back. it's not like 580 _ half to get £800 back. it's not like 580 its— half to get £800 back. it's not like 580 it's a — half to get £800 back. it's not like 580 it's a iot _ half to get £800 back. it's not like £80. it's a lot of— half to get £800 back. it's not like £80. it's a lot of money _ half to get £800 back. it's not like £80. it's a lot of money and - half to get £800 back. it's not like £80. it's a lot of money and that l £80. it's a lot of money and that obviously— £80. it's a lot of money and that obviously reading _ £80. it's a lot of money and that obviously reading from _ £80. it's a lot of money and that obviously reading from a - £80. it's a lot of money and that obviously reading from a script l £80. it's a lot of money and that . obviously reading from a script and making _ obviously reading from a script and making me — obviously reading from a script and making me work— obviously reading from a script and making me work hard _ obviously reading from a script and making me work hard to— obviously reading from a script and making me work hard to get- obviously reading from a script and making me work hard to get my. obviously reading from a script and i making me work hard to get my money back _ making me work hard to get my money back. ., ., , ., ., ,, making me work hard to get my money back. ., ., , ., .«r , , making me work hard to get my money back. ., .,, ., , , �*, back. that does not make sense. it's im ortant back. that does not make sense. it's important to — back. that does not make sense. it's important to say _ back. that does not make sense. it's important to say here _ back. that does not make sense. it's important to say here that _ back. that does not make sense. it's important to say here that dan i back. that does not make sense. it's important to say here that dan was l important to say here that dan was totally within his rights to ask for his money back. if you've got credit on your account you can either amend your direct debit payments or you can ask for your credit back. bearing in mind he wanted a cushion as you heard. six weeks it took him to get it back. all day on the phone. it your credit should be refunded in a timely manner, it didn't happen in dan's case. i imagine a lot of people will be checking their balances just to see. as you say, it gives you a cushion going into a colder period but if you find that you've got that much in there, you should be able to get it. ., , , ., ., , in there, you should be able to get it. people should do is check their account. with _ it. people should do is check their account. with winter _ it. people should do is check their account. with winterjust - it. people should do is check their account. with winterjust around | it. people should do is check their i account. with winterjust around the corner, maybe not the best time to be asking that credit back but if it's excessive like dan, you don't need that much credit. certainly come at this end of usage season, that's when you really want to check and that's when your balance should be close to zero.— be close to zero. what have people been saying — be close to zero. what have people been saying about _ be close to zero. what have people been saying about this? _ be close to zero. what have people been saying about this? we - be close to zero. what have people been saying about this? we took. be close to zero. what have people l been saying about this? we took this to an 'ust been saying about this? we took this to an just mcneil— been saying about this? we took this to an just mcneil who _ been saying about this? we took this to an just mcneil who is _ been saying about this? we took this to an just mcneil who is in _ been saying about this? we took this to an just mcneil who is in the - to anjust mcneil who is in the chair— to anjust mcneil who is in the chair select committee in the house of commons. and he told us about this fit _ of commons. and he told us about this 8.1 billion pounds figure. this is four and — this 8.1 billion pounds figure. this is four and a _ this 8.1 billion pounds figure. this is four and a half— this 8.1 billion pounds figure. this is four and a half times greater. this— is four and a half times greater. this is— is four and a half times greater. this is a — is four and a half times greater. this is a huge _ is four and a half times greater. this is a huge figure _ is four and a half times greater. this is a huge figure and - is four and a half times greater. this is a huge figure and this. this is a huge figure and this dwarfs — this is a huge figure and this dwarfs any— this is a huge figure and this dwarfs any debts _ this is a huge figure and this dwarfs any debts owed i this is a huge figure and this dwarfs any debts owed to i this is a huge figure and this| dwarfs any debts owed to the this is a huge figure and this- dwarfs any debts owed to the energy companies _ dwarfs any debts owed to the energy companies collectively _ dwarfs any debts owed to the energy companies collectively because i companies collectively because customers— companies collectively because customers collectively- companies collectively because customers collectively have i companies collectively because i customers collectively have given them _ customers collectively have given them and — customers collectively have given them and have _ customers collectively have given them and have them _ customers collectively have given them and have them in— customers collectively have given them and have them in credit i customers collectively have given them and have them in credit byl customers collectively have given i them and have them in credit by 8.1 billion _ them and have them in credit by 8.1 billion i_ them and have them in credit by 8.1 billion. i would _ them and have them in credit by 8.1 billion. i would be _ them and have them in credit by 8.1 billion. iwould be interested - them and have them in credit by 8.1 billion. i would be interested to i billion. i would be interested to see billion. ! would be interested to see how— billion. ! would be interested to see how this— billion. i would be interested to see how this pans _ billion. i would be interested to see how this pans out - billion. ! would be interested to see how this pans out over- billion. i would be interested to see how this pans out over the| billion. i would be interested to i see how this pans out over the year but in _ see how this pans out over the year but in quarter— see how this pans out over the year but in quarter one, _ see how this pans out over the year but in quarter one, these _ see how this pans out over the year but in quarter one, these are - but in quarter one, these are coiossai— but in quarter one, these are colossal figures _ but in quarter one, these are colossal figures that- but in quarter one, these are colossal figures that dwarf i but in quarter one, these are. colossal figures that dwarf the debt — colossal figures that dwarf the debt. �* , ., , ., colossal figures that dwarf the debt. ,, ., debt. it's a funny one because have the energy — debt. it's a funny one because have the energy companies _ debt. it's a funny one because have the energy companies done - debt. it's a funny one because have l the energy companies done anything wrong? what are they saying about what they have or haven't done? is a what they have or haven't done? is a difficult what they have or haven't done? is — difficult question to answer because this clearly anecdotal evidence or individual customer testimony but i don't think there's any incentive for them to be doing this. we obviously contacted them. energy uk who speaks for suppliers, they said energy prices were extremely volatile and that the glyph of government help was unknown and they said to angus mcneil�*s point it's not meaningful to compare credit the debt that they are owed but people take their own interpretation of that. ~' , ., take their own interpretation of that. ~ ,, take their own interpretation of that. ~' that. like you say, i think people will be going _ that. like you say, i think people will be going home _ that. like you say, i think people will be going home and - that. like you say, i think people will be going home and checking| will be going home and checking their credit.— their credit. keep across things, definitely- _ their credit. keep across things, definitely. money _ their credit. keep across things, definitely. money box _ their credit. keep across things, definitely. money box will i their credit. keep across things, definitely. money box will be i their credit. keep across things, i definitely. money box will be taking an stay with us, headlines coming up. hello, this is breakfast with sarah campbell and charlie stayt. as we've been hearing this morning, the prime minister is announcing a series of measures to support drivers, ahead of the conservative party conference in manchester this weekend. abraham said the tories have had 13 years of failure. —— labour have said. we're joined now by the transport secretary mark harper. good morning. we are setting out a number— good morning. we are setting out a number of— good morning. we are setting out a number of things we have said today, making _ number of things we have said today, making sure — number of things we have said today, making sure we do not see in england what has _ making sure we do not see in england what has happened in wales, want to strengthen— what has happened in wales, want to strengthen guidance so you do not .et strengthen guidance so you do not get 20 _ strengthen guidance so you do not get 20 mile an hour speed limits but you have _ get 20 mile an hour speed limits but you have them in places that make sense _ you have them in places that make sense outside schools for example, where _ sense outside schools for example, where there is a particular accident issue _ where there is a particular accident issue but— where there is a particular accident issue but what does not make sense as a blanket — issue but what does not make sense as a blanket and position regardless of iocai— as a blanket and position regardless of local circumstances. we are iooking — of local circumstances. we are iooking at _ of local circumstances. we are looking at making local authorities do not _ looking at making local authorities do not use — looking at making local authorities do not use topic penalties as a way of raising _ do not use topic penalties as a way of raising revenue rather than making — of raising revenue rather than making the roads safer and we are iooking _ making the roads safer and we are iooking at— making the roads safer and we are looking at how local traffic measures are implemented so they are not used _ measures are implemented so they are not used to— measures are implemented so they are not used to attack drivers, they are used _ not used to attack drivers, they are used sensibly with local consent and ithink— used sensibly with local consent and i think those are sensible measures which _ i think those are sensible measures which witt— i think those are sensible measures which will make life easier for drivers — which will make life easier for drivers. most people in the country is the _ drivers. most people in the country is the cause — drivers. most people in the country is the cause to get about and to get the kids— is the cause to get about and to get the kids to — is the cause to get about and to get the kids to school and to work on two important appointments and we want to— two important appointments and we want to make life easier for them. where _ want to make life easier for them. where have — want to make life easier for them. where have 20 mile an hour blanket speed limits happened? in where have 20 mile an hour blanket speed limits happened?— where have 20 mile an hour blanket speed limits happened? in wales. the labour government _ speed limits happened? in wales. the labour government in _ speed limits happened? in wales. the labour government in wales _ speed limits happened? in wales. the labour government in wales has i labour government in wales has imposed — labour government in wales has imposed a — labour government in wales has imposed a blanket 20 mile an hour speed _ imposed a blanket 20 mile an hour speed limit in all built—up areas regardless of local circumstances. and you _ regardless of local circumstances. and you have seen the backlash from a number— and you have seen the backlash from a number of— and you have seen the backlash from a number of people signing... but mark a number of people signing... mark harper, a number of people signing... elle mark harper, that is not the case because not all 30 mile an hour zones have become 20? that is just not true. it zones have become 20? that is 'ust not true. , ., not true. it is. the default position — not true. it is. the default position in _ not true. it is. the default position in wales - not true. it is. the default position in wales now- not true. it is. the default position in wales now is i not true. it is. the default i position in wales now is that all not true. it is. the default - position in wales now is that all of those _ position in wales now is that all of those 30 _ position in wales now is that all of those 30 melanosomes happening to 20m _ those 30 melanosomes happening to 20... �* , ., those 30 melanosomes happening to 20... ~ , a, a, those 30 melanosomes happening to 20... �* ., ,':ifi 20. .. are you telling me all 30 mile an hour limits _ 20. .. are you telling me all 30 mile an hour limits in _ 20. .. are you telling me all 30 mile an hour limits in wales _ 20. .. are you telling me all 30 mile an hour limits in wales have - 20. .. are you telling me all 30 mile| an hour limits in wales have become 20? , _ a , 20? yes! the policy the welsh government... _ 20? yes! the policy the welsh government... but _ 20? yes! the policy the welsh government... but hasn't - 20? yes! the policy the welsh - government... but hasn't happened? that is what — government... but hasn't happened? that is what i — government... but hasn't happened? that is what i asking _ government... but hasn't happened? that is what i asking you. _ government... but hasn't happened? that is what i asking you. yes, - government... but hasn't happened? that is what i asking you. yes, the i that is what i asking you. yes, the oli has that is what i asking you. yes, the policy has kicked _ that is what i asking you. yes, the policy has kicked in _ that is what i asking you. yes, the policy has kicked in and _ that is what i asking you. yes, the policy has kicked in and they - that is what i asking you. yes, the policy has kicked in and they have| policy has kicked in and they have introduced — policy has kicked in and they have introduced registered but we do not think it _ introduced registered but we do not think it makes sense. we think it makes _ think it makes sense. we think it makes sense local authorities to implement those policies where they make sense. 20 mile an hour speed limit outside a school makes total sense _ limit outside a school makes total sense and — limit outside a school makes total sense and you get high levels of compliance with that because people can see _ compliance with that because people can see it_ compliance with that because people can see it makes sense but it doesn't — can see it makes sense but it doesn't make sense to make it a blanket— doesn't make sense to make it a blanket policy applied in wales by the labour government and across the whole _ the labour government and across the whole of _ the labour government and across the whole of wales, regardless of local circumstances. it doesn't make sensa — circumstances. it doesn't make sensa the _ circumstances. it doesn't make sense. the public does not think it makes _ sense. the public does not think it makes sense and global strength and guidance _ makes sense and global strength and guidance in england so that you would _ guidance in england so that you would ought that sort of blanket imposition. would ought that sort of blanket imposition-— would ought that sort of blanket im osition. ., ., , ,, , imposition. you are putting yourself on the side of _ imposition. you are putting yourself on the side of the _ imposition. you are putting yourself on the side of the motorist - imposition. you are putting yourself on the side of the motorist so - imposition. you are putting yourself on the side of the motorist so some} on the side of the motorist so some people hearing what you are announcing will be thinking great, bob will be fewer of those 20 mile in our areas so will there be fewer 20 mile an hour speed limits in england? 20 mile an hour speed limits in encland? �* , . 20 mile an hour speed limits in encland? v . . 20 mile an hour speed limits in encland? �*, ., ., , england? it's what i have 'ust said. no, it's a england? it's what i have 'ust said. no. its a very * england? it's what i have just said. no, it's a very straightforward - no, it's a very straightforward question. will there be fewer of them? ., �* , question. will there be fewer of them? , ., , ~ them? there won't be any blanket im osition them? there won't be any blanket imposition of _ them? there won't be any blanket imposition of them _ them? there won't be any blanket imposition of them with _ them? there won't be any blanket imposition of them with the - them? there won't be any blanket i imposition of them with the strength and guidance but what we are looking at doing _ and guidance but what we are looking at doing is— and guidance but what we are looking at doing is making it so local authorities can continue putting them _ authorities can continue putting them in — authorities can continue putting them in places quote they make sense for example _ them in places quote they make sense for example outside a school, or for there _ for example outside a school, or for there is— for example outside a school, or for there is an — for example outside a school, or for there is an accident issue based on local_ there is an accident issue based on local circumstances but what we want to make _ local circumstances but what we want to make sure yes you did not give a blanket— to make sure yes you did not give a blanket imposition is the labour party— blanket imposition is the labour party has— blanket imposition is the labour party has done in wales which makes no sense _ party has done in wales which makes no sense and makes life harder for motorists, — no sense and makes life harder for motorists, what other people using buses, _ motorists, what other people using buses, there's been a number of bus companies _ buses, there's been a number of bus companies who say it will be harder to deliver— companies who say it will be harder to deliver services, buses are the most _ to deliver services, buses are the most popular form of public transport and we want to make life easier— transport and we want to make life easier for— transport and we want to make life easier for drivers. that is what we are setting — easier for drivers. that is what we are setting at the plants we are today — are setting at the plants we are toda . ., ., , .,, today. part of the problem with this, i today. part of the problem with this. i am _ today. part of the problem with this. i am trying _ today. part of the problem with this, i am trying to _ today. part of the problem with this, i am trying to be - today. part of the problem with this, i am trying to be clear- today. part of the problem with i this, i am trying to be clear about the question, what you are seeing in england, something that is not happening, the blanket ban will not happen. so that is why i was trying to ask the question clearly because of is driving down a street today and they are avoided just 20 miles and they are avoided just 20 miles an hour your announcement today about this consultation does not mean that that will change, it will stay the same?— mean that that will change, it will stay the same? mean that that will change, it will sta the same? ~ ., ., , stay the same? what we are saying is an local stay the same? what we are saying is any local authority _ stay the same? what we are saying is any local authority that _ stay the same? what we are saying is any local authority that is _ stay the same? what we are saying is any local authority that is tempted - any local authority that is tempted by having — any local authority that is tempted by having some sort of blanket imposition... but by having some sort of blanket imposition. . .— by having some sort of blanket imosition... �* ., ,, ., imposition... but no, you have said that already. _ imposition... but no, you have said that already. i _ imposition... but no, you have said that already, i am _ imposition... but no, you have said that already, i am trying _ imposition... but no, you have said that already, i am trying to - imposition... but no, you have said that already, i am trying to work. imposition... but no, you have said that already, i am trying to work at| that already, i am trying to work at the specifics of a sign that says 20, someone driving down a road, people who claim to represent, it should not be 20, people are irritated and what you talk about today will not mean that saying goes today will not mean that saying goes to 30? it today will not mean that saying goes to 30? ., �* , ., i: to 30? it won't. if there is a 20 mile and _ to 30? it won't. if there is a 20 mile and outside _ to 30? it won't. if there is a 20 mile and outside a _ to 30? it won't. if there is a 20 mile and outside a school, - to 30? it won't. if there is a 20 mile and outside a school, that} mile and outside a school, that makes — mile and outside a school, that makes perfect sense and actually most _ makes perfect sense and actually most people in the circumstances think— most people in the circumstances think it _ most people in the circumstances think it makes sense and actually compliance with those limits is very high _ compliance with those limits is very high. where it does not make sense is where _ high. where it does not make sense is where it— high. where it does not make sense is where it is— high. where it does not make sense is where it is imposed as a blanket measure _ is where it is imposed as a blanket measure regardless of local circumstances, that does not make sense _ circumstances, that does not make sense and — circumstances, that does not make sense and that is what we have seen the lahour— sense and that is what we have seen the labour government doing in wales with a _ the labour government doing in wales with a big _ the labour government doing in wales with a big public backlash and that is what _ with a big public backlash and that is what you are running out in engiand — is what you are running out in england but we're not saying that sensible — england but we're not saying that sensible schemes, implemented sensibly— sensible schemes, implemented sensibly for sensible reasons iocaiiy — sensibly for sensible reasons locally with high levels of compliance, that is perfectly sensible _ compliance, that is perfectly sensible and i think most people understand that. i sensible and i think most people understand that.— understand that. i am looking at comments _ understand that. i am looking at comments from _ understand that. i am looking at comments from rishi _ understand that. i am looking at comments from rishi sunak - understand that. i am looking at comments from rishi sunak and j understand that. i am looking at i comments from rishi sunak and he said i am slumming the brakes on the waron said i am slumming the brakes on the war on motorists. it has been conducting a war on motorists? there has been a lot — conducting a war on motorists? there has been a lot of— conducting a war on motorists? there has been a lot of commentary - conducting a war on motorists? there has been a lot of commentary about this and _ has been a lot of commentary about this and i_ has been a lot of commentary about this and i give you a specific example _ this and i give you a specific example. in wells, the welsh labour government implementing policies... do you _ government implementing policies... do you know what? i do not want you to talk about the welsh government. i would quite like to talk about what the prime minister has said. yes, and i am giving you an example, you set— yes, and i am giving you an example, you set can— yes, and i am giving you an example, you set can'— yes, and i am giving you an example, you set can i give you an example of what _ you set can i give you an example of what there _ you set can i give you an example of what there is — you set can i give you an example of what there is a war on motorists and i am giving _ what there is a war on motorists and i am giving you an example of the labour— i am giving you an example of the labour government in wales saying it is not _ labour government in wales saying it is not going _ labour government in wales saying it is not going to build new roads or invest— is not going to build new roads or invest in— is not going to build new roads or invest in road infrastructure. it's implemented a blanket 20 mile an... but you _ implemented a blanket 20 mile an... but you are _ implemented a blanket 20 mile an... but you are the conservative government of england, why cannot you talk about that? there has been able motorist conducted by the conservative government, is that right? conservative government, is that riuht? ., ., ~ conservative government, is that riuht? ., ., , right? no, no. we are implementing olicies right? no, no. we are implementing policies here — right? no, no. we are implementing policies here so _ right? no, no. we are implementing policies here so drivers _ right? no, no. we are implementing policies here so drivers can - right? no, no. we are implementing policies here so drivers can have - policies here so drivers can have confidence — policies here so drivers can have confidence in policy in england, they— confidence in policy in england, they will— confidence in policy in england, they will not be a blanket imposition of 20 mile an hour speed limits— imposition of 20 mile an hour speed limits and _ imposition of 20 mile an hour speed limits and bcb will look at policies to make _ limits and bcb will look at policies to make it — limits and bcb will look at policies to make it harder for councils to use moving _ to make it harder for councils to use moving traffic enforcement as a method _ use moving traffic enforcement as a method of— use moving traffic enforcement as a method of raising revenue rather than _ method of raising revenue rather than being focused on making roads safer _ than being focused on making roads safer you _ than being focused on making roads safer. you are putting those reassurances in place so people can see the _ reassurances in place so people can see the most popular form of transport _ see the most popular form of transport which is coarse, and how most _ transport which is coarse, and how most people outside london get to work and _ most people outside london get to work and get around, their lives are easier— work and get around, their lives are easier and _ work and get around, their lives are easier and more straightforward. i think— easier and more straightforward. i think that's — easier and more straightforward. i think that's very common sense policy— think that's very common sense policy which will be welcomed by most _ policy which will be welcomed by most people across the country. a most people across the country. couple more things i'd like to announce asking about. what is a clear stance you can get me about whether the northern lake of hs2 will or won't go ahead? hsz whether the northern lake of hs2 will or won't go ahead?— whether the northern lake of hs2 will or won't go ahead? hs2 we are caettin on will or won't go ahead? hs2 we are getting on with _ will or won't go ahead? hs2 we are getting on with building _ will or won't go ahead? hs2 we are getting on with building the - getting on with building the project, you know it's moving ahead of place _ project, you know it's moving ahead of place. speeds are in the ground and all— of place. speeds are in the ground and all sorts of other construction equipment. we are getting on with it. equipment. we are getting on with it on _ equipment. we are getting on with it on your— equipment. we are getting on with it. on your specific question, there's— it. on your specific question, there's been a lot of speculation and you — there's been a lot of speculation and you want me to but would not expect _ and you want me to but would not expect me — and you want me to but would not expect me to comment on media speculation. expect me to comment on media speculation-— expect me to comment on media speculation. no, let me be clear, mark harper- _ speculation. no, let me be clear, mark harper- i — speculation. no, let me be clear, mark harper. i am _ speculation. no, let me be clear, mark harper. i am not _ speculation. no, let me be clear, mark harper. i am not asking - speculation. no, let me be clear, mark harper. i am not asking you speculation. no, let me be clear, i mark harper. i am not asking you to comment on speculation, you are the transport secretary, i am asking you what is happening. brute transport secretary, i am asking you what is happening.— transport secretary, i am asking you what is happening. we are getting on with delivering _ what is happening. we are getting on with delivering the _ what is happening. we are getting on with delivering the project. _ what is happening. we are getting on with delivering the project. phase - with delivering the project. phase one between london and birmingham is under— one between london and birmingham is under way— one between london and birmingham is under way at _ one between london and birmingham is under way at pace and on track to deliver— under way at pace and on track to deliver against the in service dates promised — deliver against the in service dates promised we are getting on with delivering. any other questions about— delivering. any other questions about speculation that is in the media — about speculation that is in the media and you would not expect me to comment— media and you would not expect me to comment on— media and you would not expect me to comment on that. well media and you would not expect me to comment on that.— comment on that. well i would quite likel to comment on that. well i would quite likely to keep _ comment on that. well i would quite likely to keep me — comment on that. well i would quite likely to keep me an _ comment on that. well i would quite likely to keep me an answer- comment on that. well i would quite likely to keep me an answer to - comment on that. well i would quite likely to keep me an answer to the l likely to keep me an answer to the question anyway. you likely to keep me an answer to the question anyway-— likely to keep me an answer to the question anyway. you would like me to comment — question anyway. you would like me to comment on _ question anyway. you would like me to comment on speculation - question anyway. you would like me to comment on speculation but - question anyway. you would like me to comment on speculation but i - question anyway. you would like me to comment on speculation but i aml to comment on speculation but i am not going _ to comment on speculation but i am not going to. to comment on speculation but i am rrot going to— not going to. let's leave that. want more topic — not going to. let's leave that. want more topic for _ not going to. let's leave that. want more topic for you, _ not going to. let's leave that. want more topic for you, an _ not going to. let's leave that. want more topic for you, an important i more topic for you, an important subject for people who may be having problems because of the train strikes. the situation we seem to bns the position that the government as this will just bns the position that the government as this willjust play out? if the unions do not back down and come to an agreement, strikes on the trains isjust what an agreement, strikes on the trains is just what people have to get used to? isjust what people have to get used to? ~ , ., ., ., , isjust what people have to get used to? ., to? will they have already received one of the disputes _ to? will they have already received one of the disputes on _ to? will they have already received one of the disputes on the - to? will they have already received one of the disputes on the railway. one of the disputes on the railway networks. — one of the disputes on the railway networks, network rail and the infrastructure part, we had fair and reasonable — infrastructure part, we had fair and reasonable pay office, the rmt put them _ reasonable pay office, the rmt put them to— reasonable pay office, the rmt put them to their members and the smaller— them to their members and the smaller units and that dispute was resolved _ smaller units and that dispute was resolved but the strikes today at the train — resolved but the strikes today at the train drivers. i think they are well— the train drivers. i think they are well paid. — the train drivers. i think they are well paid, 60,000 point average pay for a four—day week and the deal on the table _ for a four—day week and the deal on the table gives that a £65,000 pay package _ the table gives that a £65,000 pay package for a 35 hour four day week and package fora 35 hour four day week and i_ package for a 35 hour four day week and i think— package for a 35 hour four day week and i think that's quite reasonable and i think that's quite reasonable and it— and i think that's quite reasonable and it comes with some reform to make _ and it comes with some reform to make the — and it comes with some reform to make the train system more sustainable. what is some f ones with their— sustainable. what is some f ones with their political strike today timed — with their political strike today timed for the conservative party conference is a large pay rise with no strings— conference is a large pay rise with no strings or reforms attached, to make _ no strings or reforms attached, to make the — no strings or reforms attached, to make the rail system is better for passengers and that would be caving in to that, _ passengers and that would be caving in to that, a — passengers and that would be caving in to that, a short—term decision, easy— in to that, a short—term decision, easy decision but wrong for the future — easy decision but wrong for the future. the government is about making — future. the government is about making the right decision for the lon- making the right decision for the long term — making the right decision for the long term interests of the country and that's— long term interests of the country and that's what we will stick today. we spoke — and that's what we will stick today. we spoke to mcquillan from aslef and he said to say hello, number one and he said to say hello, number one and he said to say hello, number one and he said he would like to have a chat. when you chat with him, is that a possibility?— that a possibility? well, i have soken that a possibility? well, i have spoken to _ that a possibility? well, i have spoken to him _ that a possibility? well, i have spoken to him before - that a possibility? well, i have spoken to him before and - that a possibility? well, i have spoken to him before and i... | that a possibility? well, i have - spoken to him before and i... when it was the last _ spoken to him before and i... when it was the last time? _ spoken to him before and i... when it was the last time? the _ it was the last time? the negotiations _ it was the last time? the negotiations as - it was the last time? the negotiations as you'd - it was the last time? the negotiations as you'd expect between the employers, the train operating companies — the employers, the train operating companies and mcquillan and his union— companies and mcquillan and his union and — companies and mcquillan and his union and those negotiations have taken _ union and those negotiations have taken place and there is a fair and reasonable — taken place and there is a fair and reasonable offer on the table. what he wants _ reasonable offer on the table. what he wants is — reasonable offer on the table. what he wants is lots of taxpayer money thrown _ he wants is lots of taxpayer money thrown at — he wants is lots of taxpayer money thrown at it — he wants is lots of taxpayer money thrown at it and no strings attached. it that reasonable deal for passengers to taxpayers. gn attached. it that reasonable deal for passengers to taxpayers. on the issue of when _ for passengers to taxpayers. on the issue of when you _ for passengers to taxpayers. on the issue of when you spoke _ for passengers to taxpayers. on the issue of when you spoke to - for passengers to taxpayers. on the issue of when you spoke to him, - for passengers to taxpayers. on the i issue of when you spoke to him, when was that? i issue of when you spoke to him, when was that? , ,., ,, ., was that? i spoke to him when i became transport _ was that? i spoke to him when i became transport secretary... i was that? i spoke to him when i - became transport secretary... when was that? _ became transport secretary... when was that? i_ became transport secretary... when was that? i won fair and reasonable pay office _ was that? i won fair and reasonable pay office on the table, negotiations take place between the employers, the train operating companies and his union, those negotiations have taken place, they have resulted in a fair and reasonable pay offer with some requirements for reform on the table — requirements for reform on the table he — requirements for reform on the table. he should put that deal to his members, he is refusing to do so and that— his members, he is refusing to do so and that is— his members, he is refusing to do so and that is how you resolve industrial disputes. you do not resort— industrial disputes. you do not resort them by throwing taxpayer money— resort them by throwing taxpayer money at — resort them by throwing taxpayer money at them, that is the wrong decision— money at them, that is the wrong decision for— money at them, that is the wrong decision for the future of the country— decision for the future of the country and it is not one make. mark harer, country and it is not one make. mark harper. we — country and it is not one make. mark harper, we appreciate _ country and it is not one make. .— harper, we appreciate your time this morning. harper, we appreciate your time this morninu. . , harper, we appreciate your time this morninu. ., , ., ~ harper, we appreciate your time this morninu. .,, ., ~' ,, morning. pleasure, thank you. time to churn mike _ morning. pleasure, thank you. time to churn mike bishop _ morning. pleasure, thank you. time to churn mike bishop now. - morning. pleasure, thank you. time to churn mike bishop now. some - to churn mike bishop now. some scenes coming from rome got the ryder cup! —— time tojoin mike busheu ryder cup! —— time tojoin mike bushell now. the european captain zacjohnson saying _ the european captain zacjohnson saying there is a must in the american _ saying there is a must in the american camp. catch deficit the american — american camp. catch deficit the american team, for the europeans it's all— american team, for the europeans it's all about keeping the momentum lloll'i it's all about keeping the momentum going on— it's all about keeping the momentum going on the second day of the ryder cup with— going on the second day of the ryder cup with the first matches all under way and _ cup with the first matches all under way and early stages. and europe defending their history equalling five—point lead, that they built up on the opening day. this was a moment that will go down in history, a putt from justin rose, which meant the final match of the day was tied and this denied the usa team, what would have been their only win, their last chance to get their colour red on the board. it's the first time, the americans failed to win a match in a day and the europeans celebrated the significance, and were in dreamland with their 6.5 to 1.5 advantage. their togetherness as a team and with the european fans was there for all to see. you get the significance of the score, no word on the board, bob and i did not want to make that mistake. sketch momentum this afternoon. what could easily have been a claw—back for team usa. at the rugby world cup, new zealand showed last night that no one should write off their chances even if they did lose their opening match. scotland are on the same side of the draw — and are in action later, facing romania and a chance to a big score on the board — that's one of three games today but every other team will have taken notice of the statement by the all blacks in lyon. they— demolished an italy side, who some thought, might give the three—time champions a scare. instead, new zealand ran in 14 tries in total in a 96—17 win. italy narrowly avoided becoming the first team since portugal in 2007, to concede 100 points in a rugby world cup match. it means new zealand are on the cusp of the quarter finals. its a big weekend in rugby league with the super league play off elimators when the season will end for either st helens or warrington. james roby will play his final home game for saints in that one. meanwhile, hull kr ended leigh leopards' hopes, beating them in their super league eliminator 20—6. revenge this for the challenge cup final. the victory puts hull kr into the semi finals — where they'll face wigan warriors or the catalan dragons — and just one match away from their first ever appearance in the super league grand final. boxing history is going to be made with an undisputed heavyweight fight announced between champions tyson fury and oleksandr usyk — the deal is signed and will take place in saudi arabia. the date of the fight has yet to be confirmed — december 23rd the target — although the fight may have to wait until 2024. when it does take place, it will be the first undisputed heavyweight bout to decide who is the greatest since 1999. fury is currently preparing to face mma star francis enganoo in a non—title fight in riyadh on october 28th. now do you remember frank rothwell who a few years ago at the age of 70, became the oldest person to complete the solo, trans—atlantic rowing challenge? he's now 73, has recently had major open heart surgery, and taken over a football club — surely thats enough to deal with? but no, not for frank. he is back in a boat and is going to row the atlantic again on his own for 3,000 miles, aiming to smash his own record and raise another million plus, pounds towards this time, trying to find a cure for alzheimer's. his boat is now on its way to the canaries for the start in december but before it left i went to see him back in training. ready to make waves again. the 73—year—old who's always, it seems, in fine voice. # i'm the kind of guy who will never settle down...# as he was back in february 2021, after spending months at sea, rowing alone, non—stop across the atlantic and dealing with the worst the ocean could throw at him. making history and raising £1.1 million for alzheimer's research. since then, he's survived life—saving open heart surgery and bought his local football club, oldham athletic, in the national league, where he's a very inspirational chairman. hey, do we need three points this weekend? we certainly do. so tonight, none of that in the bar. no, early to bed so you're fully rested for a good day tomorrow. he's such a great inspiration. honestly, when i look at him, you know, i also want to be able to do these things when i'm, you know, when i'm that age. this winter, frank won't only be waving goodbye to his team over the busy christmas period, but also his wife and family again as he gets ready to row solo across the atlantic once more, aiming to beat his own world record. owning a football club is a bigger challenge than rowing an ocean, because i've got an element of control with the rowing the ocean, but with the football club, there's so many other things that i have no control over. i knew when he came in at antigua he looked really well compared to what i thought he would look, mentally and physically. some people came in and they was quite struggling, but he was like within two hours he's throwing the grandchildren in the swimming pool. whoa, wait a minute. you've just rowed the atlantic. you know, so he soon recovered from it. i knew he was missing it in a way. then i think it was, you know, raising 1.1 million, to do it again, it was on the agenda. the well, i've done it once. ican see... let's see what i can do. if i do it again. while i'm at sea, i'm going to be missing 13 games, i think, six home games and seven away games. sojudith will be my representative, won't you, judith? you'll be there. i will be. you'll be waving the flag, stand in and be the chairman at the board meetings, judith. no. no way. alzheimer's research uk, which is the charity i'm rowing for, they've changed their strap line now, it's "going for a cure". so while i could be part of that, and since i've done it, there's been two drugs on the market that can stall, delay, its onset. when he's had time away from the football, frank has been back on the water for training on hollingsworth lake, north of rochdale, and some sage advice from grandson, frankjunior. oh, it's going to be hard. he's three years older. that'll be harder. frank wails. oh, time flies by. deal with it. so this is it for frank's second epic crossing of the atlantic. the boat is actually four foot shorter. it's lighter, but crucially quicker. and frank's in his sleeping quarters at the moment. and, you know, last time he had a bucket for a toilet. well, he's upgraded now. he's got luxury — hi, frank! now, then... what have you got for your...? oh, well, this is the portable bathroom. so it's still a bucket. but it's got a seat. a homemade toilet seat. frank hadn't been back in a boat since finishing his last challenge, but he's not lost his stamina and at least knows what to expect this time. yeah. the biggest thing is missing family and your loved ones. you know, judith and myself, we've been married now for 50...53 years and missing her every day, love her to bits. last time, frank's fundraising made a huge difference to alzheimer's research, which is the driving force behind doing it again, especially after he personally lost a good friend to it this year. my mate phil died of alzheimer's this year, so it's been a real motivation seeing phil deteriorate from the person he was and i loved him to bits. absolutely fantastic relationship we had. the next time frank will see his boat, it'll be in the canary islands, ready for the start in early december. i know how big the waves are and i know how warm it gets and how cold it gets, and things that you have. and the boredom and big seas are always a problem. so the biggest problem would be the wind blowing the wrong way, you know? or no wind at all. oh, there's a buoy! i didn't warn you about that. sorry, i didn't see it. oh, he nearly crashed me then! we hit a buoy. normally frank has always got his eyes on his rearview mirrors and thankfully, he won't have anyone distracting him on his 3,000 mile solo challenge, which this time he hopes to complete within 50 days. what you do not see there is how unstable — what you do not see there is how unstable the boat is at one side. i am thinking of frank having a rush and a _ am thinking of frank having a rush and a showerand am thinking of frank having a rush and a shower and the board will bring _ and a shower and the board will bring around. everyday things like that _ bring around. everyday things like that. being a super goal of those months — that. being a super goal of those months. we that. being a super goal of those months. ~ ., ., , , ., ,, months. we will follow his progress. on christmas — months. we will follow his progress. on christmas day, _ months. we will follow his progress. on christmas day, he _ months. we will follow his progress. on christmas day, he will _ months. we will follow his progress. on christmas day, he will have - months. we will follow his progress. on christmas day, he will have a - months. we will follow his progress. | on christmas day, he will have a bag of turkey— on christmas day, he will have a bag of turkey crisps!— here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. it feels like it has been really warm, out again in t—shirts yesterday. it has. the met office here in the uk so back and experience one of our warmest september sun record but looking into europe, the national weather service is reporting they have experienced their warmest september ever seen on record. if you listen to what is happening globally, bear with me. this graph shows global temperature each year since 1850, each one is a line but it is this black one i am interested in, the current year 23, not as far above any previous year that we have had on record. climate scientists who produce the graph say it is very likely oversee this current year as the warmest ever year on record. bringing signs of the climate changing very rapidly and we will see more warmth coming our way over the next few days. but we've got at the next few days. but we've got at the moment is no pressure in the north atlantic, weather fronts pushing in and bringing rain throughout the day but on the southern edge what we started do is drag and increasingly humid air across the country as we go through into sunday but more especially towards the south and east, could be a warm start to october. it's been a bit of a fresh start compared to the past few days, varying amounts of cloud, sunshine in the north and east the plot increasing, ran into was through this morning, lunchtime, northern ireland some heavy bursts of rain spreading into north west england in south—west scotland. pretty strong winds this afternoon in around the irish sea but north east and the south of the country staying dry with sunshine. highs of 21 in the south—east, pressure further north but the one not as strong as they break yesterday. the wind will pick up tonight and tomorrow, some rain and some of that getting out of the way tonight but tomorrow morning, some heavy rain across northern england, north and west wales, pushing south and east but look at the temperatures, 16 or 17 degrees, 2a degrees by the afternoon. back to you. we've been reporting how one of the uk's most well—known trees — the sycamore gap tree at hadrian's wall — was cut down earlier this week. this is how it looked, a much loved site for many people. it's something that's sparked a huge amount of anger and sadness, both here in the uk and internationally. our reporter alison freeman's been following this story and she's at site now. it doesn't stop being shocking, does it? seeing the scale of the tree itself. just what has happened and what has gone? i itself. just what has happened and what has gone?— itself. just what has happened and what has gone? i was going to start with sa inc what has gone? i was going to start with saying it _ what has gone? i was going to start with saying it doesn't _ what has gone? i was going to start with saying it doesn't get _ what has gone? i was going to start with saying it doesn't get any - what has gone? i was going to start with saying it doesn't get any less l with saying it doesn't get any less shocking, we are able to stand next to it because the police tape has gone, it is not a crime scene any more and forensics officers were here yesterday finishing their investigation and taking samples and they have sliced a little bit from they have sliced a little bit from the top of the stump. people are still coming by to see it for themselves, to see that it is true. there's lots of grief and anger but thoughts are now turning to how this will affect the many local businesses who have relied on this iconic image for their trade over the years. i've been speaking to some people about how they are feeling and catching up with some businesses. for many, it wasn'tjust a tree. it was a special place. when i saw it on the television last night, ijust had a lump in my throat. i just... ifeelactually, ifeel i'm filling up now. rae from sweden last visited five years ago with her family who live here. i didn't really believe it at first. so, i thought that, yeah, let's go and have a look. and unfortunately, it is true. whilst the raw emotion was still clear from the steady stream of people visiting, concerns have begun to grow about the wider effect of the loss of the tree. at the twice brewed breweryjust down the road, the best—selling beer is called sycamore gap. in the long term there was that |thing of say if nothing happens| - to the sit,e in five years' time - we've got a beer called sycamore gap or we've got the tree as a logo. people are going to go, "well, what's the tree for? _ there's not many trees on here. it's the moorland", you know. so there is that thing that - in the future we may have to look at rebranding on some of the things. yeah. and the knock—on effects could go further. the adjoining pub, like many other businesses in the area, the felling has brought a spike in customers, for now. the first initial impact will people be in disbelief and they may come and visit. but then in more distant times away. and then yes, they may seek other places because the tree isn't there. and it won't be such a draw for ourselves and all the businesses up here, you know. a team from the national trust has taken samples from the tree in a bid to grow new ones. and as the police investigation continues, forensics officers were also on site taking evidence from around the stump. but the question of what was behind this still remains. lam iamjoined by i am joined by catherine, who is a local holiday let. the first time you have seen at this morning, visibly upset. i you have seen at this morning, visibly upset-— you have seen at this morning, visibly upset. i was in tears, it is shocking. _ visibly upset. i was in tears, it is shocking. i _ visibly upset. i was in tears, it is shocking, i don't _ visibly upset. i was in tears, it is shocking, i don't think— visibly upset. i was in tears, it is shocking, i don't think any - visibly upset. i was in tears, it is shocking, i don't think any of - visibly upset. i was in tears, it is shocking, i don't think any of us| shocking, i don't think any of us envisaged — shocking, i don't think any of us envisaged this could happen. when you at— envisaged this could happen. when you at first — envisaged this could happen. when you at first was announced we thought— you at first was announced we thought it was a hoax and had to come _ thought it was a hoax and had to come here — thought it was a hoax and had to come here to check. we just drove past and _ come here to check. we just drove past and could clearly see it had been _ past and could clearly see it had been felled, it had not blown over. personal _ been felled, it had not blown over. personal feelings for you around about your business will be affected?— about your business will be affected? , , ., , . affected? yes, hugely affected, we have been affected _ affected? yes, hugely affected, we have been affected personally, - affected? yes, hugely affected, we have been affected personally, this is a special— have been affected personally, this is a special place, a place of solace — is a special place, a place of solace and we came here during the pandemic, _ solace and we came here during the pandemic, we were grieving, we lost our mum _ pandemic, we were grieving, we lost our mum and — pandemic, we were grieving, we lost our mum and sister, our family could not meet _ our mum and sister, our family could not meet together but will be at work _ not meet together but will be at work here — not meet together but will be at work here and in lots of beautiful places _ work here and in lots of beautiful places across northumberland but the cheek— places across northumberland but the cheek is— places across northumberland but the cheek is a _ places across northumberland but the cheek is a very special place to us and we _ cheek is a very special place to us and we are — cheek is a very special place to us and we are devastated it has gone. notiust_ and we are devastated it has gone. notjust your business and we are devastated it has gone. not just your business is and we are devastated it has gone. notjust your business is but how are other businesses in the area being affected? lots are other businesses in the area being affected?— are other businesses in the area being affected? lots of businesses u . being affected? lots of businesses u- and being affected? lots of businesses up and down _ being affected? lots of businesses up and down the _ being affected? lots of businesses up and down the tyne _ being affected? lots of businesses up and down the tyne valley - being affected? lots of businesses up and down the tyne valley have | being affected? lots of businesses i up and down the tyne valley have the tree as— up and down the tyne valley have the tree as their _ up and down the tyne valley have the tree as their emblem, it's a very strong _ tree as their emblem, it's a very strong symbol and it's a beautiful symbol — strong symbol and it's a beautiful symbol. but we want people to know there's _ symbol. but we want people to know there's so _ symbol. but we want people to know there's so much more about here in northumberland, so much to do here. we are _ northumberland, so much to do here. we are coming into the dark sky season, — we are coming into the dark sky season, we _ we are coming into the dark sky season, we are the gold standard dark sky— season, we are the gold standard dark sky park and people can come and see _ dark sky park and people can come and see the — dark sky park and people can come and see the most spectacular skies, we have _ and see the most spectacular skies, we have on— and see the most spectacular skies, we have on from the water swimming, beautiful— we have on from the water swimming, beautiful historic sites, forts, there — beautiful historic sites, forts, there are _ beautiful historic sites, forts, there are so much more to see here. yes, _ there are so much more to see here. yes. we _ there are so much more to see here. yes. we have — there are so much more to see here. yes, we have lost a huge icon but there _ yes, we have lost a huge icon but there is— yes, we have lost a huge icon but there is lots— yes, we have lost a huge icon but there is lots to do here in northumberland. ., , ., northumberland. catherine, sorry to catch a short — northumberland. catherine, sorry to catch a short but _ northumberland. catherine, sorry to catch a short but thank _ northumberland. catherine, sorry to catch a short but thank you - northumberland. catherine, sorry to catch a short but thank you so i northumberland. catherine, sorry to| catch a short but thank you so much. someone overnight has put in a new sycamore tree, we are not sure it will be allowed to stay, this is a protected site.— will be allowed to stay, this is a rotected site. ., ,, , ., . stay with us, headlines coming up. good morning welcome to breakfast with sarah campbell and charlie stayt. our headlines today... the 15—year—old girl killed in a school bus crash on the m53 is named asjessica baker. the driver also died in friday's accident. new hope of a much faster radiotherapy treatment for thousands of men diagnosed with prostate cancer. 27 years after the us rapper tupac shakur was fatally shot in las vegas, a former gang leader is charged with his murder. good morning... ruling the roost in rome... europe are aiming to keep their momentum going, after building up a record equalling a 5 point lead, on the opening day of the ryder cup, with the usa failing to win a single match. with a ban on xl bullies planned for the end of the year, animal charities warn of more abandoned dogs and confusion among owners. and a dry start the weekend than many in the top and tail of the country will stale that way —— stay that way. your full forecast on bbc breakfast. it's saturday the 30th of september. our main story. a teenage girl who died after a school bus crashed on the motorway in merseyside has been named as 15—year—old jessica baker. she was killed — along with the coach driver — in the collision on the m53 at morning rush hour yesterday. several other children were injured. our correspondent helena wilkinson has the latest. this is 15—year—old jessica baker, one of the schoolchildren on the bus who was killed in the crash. the driver who has been named online as stephen shrimpton has also died. more than 50 children were on their way to school when theirjourney ended in tragedy. this is the aftermath of the crash on the m 53 near merseyside. the coach overturned. it happened after 8am, a major incident was declared. police, ambulance and fire crews were quickly sent to the scene. our thoughts and condolences are very much with their family and friends at this tragic time. family liaison officers are providing specialist support to the families and we are working with the schools and the councils to provide the necessary trauma support for the children who were on the bus. a 14—year—old boy is being treated for life—changing injuries. other children were injured. 50 children were transported to a casualty clearing centre in wallasey. of those 50, 39 have now been discharged. the remainder have been taken to hospital for further treatment. the children were going to two schools. the boys to calday grange grammar school and the girls to west kirby grammar school. they are being provided with specialist trauma support. so too are other children from both schools who were in buses police are appealing to anyone with dashcam footage to contact them urgently as investigators establish how the crash happened. a crash that has left two families devastated. helena wilkinson, bbc news. 15—year—old jessica baker was a pupil at west kirby grammar school. our reporter yunus mulla is there now. there have been tributes laid outside the school gates there. what more do we know?— outside the school gates there. what more do we know? flowers have been left outside the _ more do we know? flowers have been left outside the main _ more do we know? flowers have been left outside the main reception i more do we know? flowers have been left outside the main reception to i left outside the main reception to west kirby grammar school here. there are messages. one simply reads "sorry to see you go. our thoughts are with the family. we know the school have said they will provide support for all the children involved in that accident. jessica was a pupil here. there were a number of pupils from the boys grammar school a short distance away who were involved. there were two other buses travelling in convoy here. we have more detail about the driver. he was killed in that accident. he has been named online by his family in a fund raising posed as stephen shrimpton. the family say he leaves a widow and two young children who will grow up without their beloved father. we know there's a lot of support available for the children involved. the birkenhead mp has said the community will come together to assist in what has been described as an absolute tragedy. clearance has been made on the motorway because it is now open. been made on the motorway because it is now open-— is now open. thank you. the time now is now open. thank you. the time now is am. -- 9:06am. _ thousands of men every year who undergo treatment for prostate cancer could safely be given far less radiotherapy — that's according to a major international trial. the pace—b study found that radiotherapy doses can be cut by three—quarters, meaningless pressure on the nhs. here's our medical editor fergus walsh. there was no pain or inconvenience. the treatment was just so easy and swift there was no downside to it. alistair kennedy rose feels extremely fortunate to have had his prostate cancer treated in just five sessions of radiotherapy. eight years on, the 64—year—old is still cancer—free. it was almost as though i'd never had prostate cancer because i didn't have any symptoms to start with. and the treatment was so easy, ultimately, so very effective. he was treated here at the royal marsden hospital in london as part of a pivotal trial involving nearly 900 men at 38 hospitals in the uk, ireland and canada. all the men had medium risk prostate cancer, which had not spread. after five years 96% of the men who'd had five high doses of multiple beam radiotherapy were cancer—free, compared to 95% who'd had at least 20 doses of standard radiotherapy. both groups had low side effects. the pink area is the prostate gland. the medical director of the royal marsden led the international trial. for him, this is a big moment. when i got the results, i was literally... i was blown away. i mean, it was probably one of the best days of my career. i think it's fantastic news for patients and it's brilliant news for the nhs. so what are the implications? well, it's going to be an enormous change. i expect that the nhs will rapidly adopt this. so instead of giving 20 doses of radiotherapy, we can give five. if we extrapolate that across the whole nhs, that's hundreds of thousands of doses of radiotherapy that are going to be saved. and in a system which is quite under pressure, that's going to be very welcome. another likely change is less use of hormone therapy in future. none of the men on the trial was given any and so were spared the side effects like extreme fatigue, hot flushes and low libido. it'll mean a better experience cancer every year who'll be able to have all their radiotherapy treatment injust a week and without the need for hormone therapy. very quiet, peaceful. alistair�*s prostate cancer was picked up after a simple blood test. he wants all men over 50 to get themselves checked. fergus walsh, bbc news. police in the us have charged a former gang leader with murdering the rapper tupac shakur 27 years ago. the hip hop artist was killed in a drive—by shooting in las vegas. our north america correspondent, barbara plett usher, has the latest. # i see no changes. # all i see is racist faces. tupac shakur is still one of the best selling and most influential rappers of all time. he took off after the release of his debut album in 1991. just five years later, he was gunned down. his career cut short. shot on the las vegas strip while waiting at a red light. hit by bullets fired from a passing cadillac, he died six days later. now, after 27 years, police have finally arrested a suspect. 27 years. for 27 years, the family of tupac shakur has been waiting forjustice. we are here today to announce the arrest of 60—year—old dwayne keefe d for the murder of tupac shakur. he was the leader of a gang that was feuding with tupac�*s record label, death row records. police said the whole thing started with this fight at a las vegas hotel. tupac and record executive suge knight punched and kicked a rival gang member. keefe d is accused of then hatching the plan to retaliate. fast forward to july this year. police raided his home in a los angeles suburb. he's the man on the right. the case had been revived in recent years, using his own words about the incident published in a memoir. tupac�*s musical legacy was honored at the hollywood walk of fame earlier this year. the questions surrounding his death have also gripped his fans. they may soon get their answers. barbara plett usher, bbc news, washington. two people were taken to hospital after the flying scotsman steam engine was involved in a crash with another heritage train in the cairngorms. the low speed collision took place at aviemore railway station, in the scottish highlands. three other people were treated at the scene. police said no injuries were serious. a man in his 60s has been arrested by police investigating the cutting down of the famous sycamore gap tree in northumberland. the landmark was felled overnight on wednesday. a 16—year—old boy, who was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage, has been released on bail. the prime minister is announcing a series of transport proposals to end what he called a "war on motorists". labour said rishi sunak had 13 years of tory failure to defend over transport. as part of the government's plans, local councils in england could be curbed from introducing 20 mile per hour speed limits on their roads. you have them where they make sense, outside _ you have them where they make sense, outside schools and so forth. what doesn't _ outside schools and so forth. what doesn't make sense is where they're going _ doesn't make sense is where they're going and _ doesn't make sense is where they're going and regardless of local circumstances and where local authorities don't use steps to make roads— authorities don't use steps to make roads safer~ — authorities don't use steps to make roads safer. so they are not used to attack _ roads safer. so they are not used to attack drivers, they are used sensibly— attack drivers, they are used sensibly with local consent. rail passengers are facing more disruption today as around 12,000 train drivers stage their latest one—day strike over pay and conditions. the fresh wave of action, by members of the aslef union, means fewer than half of trains will be operating. next week, the union is also staging an overtime ban. energy firms are holding onto too much of their customers' money, in the form of account credit — that's according to the chairman of the energy select committee. figures seen by radio 4's money box reveal the total credit held in the first three months of this year was £8.1 billion. dan whitworth reports. credit on energy bills is not a bad thing. you pay more in the summer to build it up. when your actual bills are smaller. you then use that credit in the winter when your bills are bigger, but you get to stay paying the same monthly amount, which helps smooth out your bill over 12 months, unless you end up paying too much and then struggle to get it back. it's laughable, isn't it? you're telling me an off year sense of timely fashion. it shouldn't take me three full years of my time and a month and a half to get the my money back. it's not like £80, you know. it's a lot of money and it's there, obviously, from a step of the way in, given the money back and made me work hard to get my money back. that doesn't make sense. in the first three months of this year, energy suppliers held more than £8 billion of customers money in the form of credit on people's accounts, a figure which, according to one senior mp, dwarfs the £2 billion of debt suppliers were owed over the same period. i'm quite staggered. i mean, we know that the energy debt is at £18 billion and this is four and a half times greater. this is a huge figure. so this dwarfs any debts owed to the energy companies collectively because customers collectively are given them and have them in credit by £8.1 billion. that's quite the bung the energy companies have got, probably unwittingly. it'd be interesting to see how this pans out over the entire year, but for the quarter four and quarter one, these are colossal figures and as i say, dwarf the debt. energy uk, which speaks for suppliers, said at the time this credit was held, prices were extremely uncertain. the level of government help was unknown, and it's not meaningful to compare credit and debt. if customers think they're paying too much, they can ask for direct debits to be amended, and they have the right to have any credit refunded in a timely fashion. if customers still aren't happy, they can complain to the energy ombudsman. dan whitworth, bbc news. a state of emergency has been declared in new york after torrential downpours triggered flash floods — turning streets into rivers. in some places, more than 10 centimetres of rain fell in just a few hours. here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. extraordinary scenes from new york. let's put some numbers to that. let's put some numbers to that. let's take it to jfk let's put some numbers to that. let's take it tojfk airport. 200 millimetres of rain falling in an urban area. that's why we saw the extensive flooding. that's about the same as birmingham seen three to four months worth of rain in the space of 2a hours. the rain falling new york was courtesy of this weather system here. sat over the same area throughout the day. this is now shifting eastwards. an improving picture there. this area of cloud has been moving in off the atlantic, so far this morning not bringing the same rainfall but a wet afternoon compare to what you had this morning. showers in the west turning quickly wet and towards west wales. the far south and east will stay drier and brighter. in between that cloud extends northern ireland, southern scotland and north—west england and to the west. we will see some strong and gusty winds particularly around the irish sea, 40-45 particularly around the irish sea, 40—115 mph. temperatures are on the cool side in the far north of scotland. pleasant in the sunshine to the south—east. 21 celsius. dry here tonight, but rain will spread across scotland fairly erratically and then more heavy bursts of rain returned to west wales into the morning. tomorrow morning, much warmer than this morning. temperatures tonight across southern areas not dropping much lower than 16-17 c. that areas not dropping much lower than 16—17 c. that humid air pushing its way across many southern east areas. northern england to begin the day some heavy bursts of rain around, easing in sunny conditions in the afternoon. that weather front works its way towards the south—west, lincolnshire and east anglia. sunshine in the afternoon and one or two showers across scotland and northern ireland but today, for the south of that weather front we can see temperatures hitting 23—24 c, the warmest october in 12 years. that warmth is felt across much of europe under high pressure but was still on the edge of it. there's a chance of another weather system pushing its way and so after a bright start then we will see more on the way of rain. could be a bit misty and murky in the southern counties but in the south—west of wales, rain developing and some passing sales for scotland and northern ireland and then more sunshine. since the prime minister announced plans to ban american bully xl type dogs, animal charities say they've had an increase in calls from worried pet owners. the government says it's taking quick action to protect the public after a series of recent attacks — but owners are now waiting to find out how a ban could affect them. john maguire reports. one year old rufus is a happy dog, but with a very uncertain future. he's among the 20 here at the hope rescue centre in south wales that may be affected by the ban on xl bullies and staff fear there may be a lot more to come. since the pm announced the ban on xl bullies we've seen a massive increase in the number of phone calls messages were getting from panicked owners. firstly, they're worried about whether their dog is going to fit into this ban. so we're hearing from not only owners of xl bullies, but of owners of other american bullies and just large bull breeds. is their dog going to fit this ban? and what will that mean for the dog? if people are panicked and they're not sure what to do, are we then going to see a higher number of dogs coming into our care, which at the moment when we are already working at capacity is is really scary for us. good lad! yeah. good boy. this is the second time simon and nick have brought their xl bully creed to be trained to wear a muzzle. he's rewarded with treats and with gentle persuasion is making very good progress. his owners are being proactive, anticipating a proposed law that would change the way they live with their dog. i'd rather be ahead of the game and make sure we're prepared. creed has never worn a muzzle before. and he doesn't particularly like things near his face, so we thought it could take quite a while to get him comfortable with it. and i also want to make sure that if and when they do bring this rule in, we're ready and we're not trapped in the house and not able to take him out on a walk because we can't get a muzzle on him. they believe dangerous behaviour is derived from irresponsible breeders and owners caused by humans, not animals. ijust think it should be notjust xls. i i think it should be tighter dog control for everyone. - and i think if unfortunately your dog does attack someone, i you should pay the consequences. it should be treated the same i as like manslaughter or anything. and i think that would| control a lot of issues. at the dog academy near milton keynes, they've been inundated with requests for help since the prime minister announced his intention to ban the breed. people are getting really overwhelmed. there's a lot of people who have been coming in with dogs that theyjust want and whatever going to wear a muzzle? i know a couple of people who've had their pets put to sleep already because they haven't either been able to afford it or the stigma attached to it. it's a really, really hard decision for a lot of people, you know, cairo's owners have so far tried unsuccessfully to muzzle him at home. he's a large dog, but at nine months is still a puppy and is already taking to this method. his owners are not sure of his exact breed but aren't taking any chances. he's showed so much potential as well. i so we do feel like it's quite heartbreaking. i so that's why we're trying to take these steps before anything i comes into place. determining whether or not a dog belongs to a banned breed is difficult, and there are concerns the law will affect responsible owners while doing little to tackle those who already abuse existing laws, the system and the dogs themselves. john maguire, bbc news, buckinghamshire. we can speak now to linda cantle from woodgreen pets charity, which rehomes animals. good morning, linda. thank you for talking _ good morning, linda. thank you for talking to _ good morning, linda. thank you for talking to us — good morning, linda. thank you for talking to us. we've _ good morning, linda. thank you for talking to us. we've heard - good morning, linda. thank you for talking to us. we've heard some i talking to us. we've heard some experiences _ talking to us. we've heard some experiences there. _ talking to us. we've heard some experiences there. what's i talking to us. we've heard some experiences there. what's the i talking to us. we've heard some i experiences there. what's the impact been on _ experiences there. what's the impact been on your— experiences there. what's the impact been on your charity _ experiences there. what's the impact been on your charity since _ experiences there. what's the impact been on your charity since this - experiences there. what's the impact been on your charity since this ban i been on your charity since this ban was announced? _ been on your charity since this ban was announced? [— been on your charity since this ban was announced?— was announced? i think like many other charities _ was announced? i think like many other charities we _ was announced? i think like many other charities we are _ was announced? i think like many other charities we are seeing i was announced? i think like many| other charities we are seeing more and more people contacting us, people who have dogs that they are concerned might fall into the type. they are asking lots of questions, what will happen? what can they do? and that's good that people are asking questions early on and looking for support because there are things they can do. coming to the welfare charity like this is a good first step because you can find the training needed to understand what your responsibilities are as an owner. ., , , what your responsibilities are as an owner. ., , ., , , ., what your responsibilities are as an owner. ., , ._ , ., ,., owner. over the last ten days or so ou've owner. over the last ten days or so you've had — owner. over the last ten days or so you've had two _ owner. over the last ten days or so you've had two stray _ owner. over the last ten days or so you've had two stray dogs - owner. over the last ten days or so i you've had two stray dogs abandoned at your charity which you think might be xl bullies? yes. unfortunately, _ might be xl bullies? yes. unfortunately, we - might be xl bullies? yes. unfortunately, we see i might be xl bullies? yes. i unfortunately, we see more might be xl bullies? yes. - unfortunately, we see more strays might be xl bullies? yes. _ unfortunately, we see more strays at this time of year but this week we've had two dogs that we believe might fall into the xl bullies category because it's a real worry because being able to secure their future is a real challenge. it's highly likely we won't be able to rehome them and we will have to make the difficult decision to euthanise them. it's incredibly hard. but our work and what we've done is very hard. we assess animals individually and it's inborn for us not to put out animals that are threats to members of the publics and our other pets. —— important for us. it's incredibly hard to have to make these decisions based on the type of breed. what it looks like, the measurements of that breed. it's a really challenging time for many and the concern for us is that there is a suggestion that banning a breed type would suggest that people will be safe in the community and we are concerned that more needs to be done to address the issues and the terrible situation that is happening with people being injured and killed by dogs. there's a lot that needs to be done to consider the root causes of a ban and these issues have certainly not been addressed. what's obvious is that _ certainly not been addressed. what's obvious is that lots _ certainly not been addressed. what's obvious is that lots of _ certainly not been addressed. what's obvious is that lots of responsible i obvious is that lots of responsible owners, the vast majority are responsible. have you had many coming to you dogs now who don't know whether their dog is one breed or another. there is a lot of confusion. you can own a dog and not be sure what it is.— be sure what it is. absolutely. a hu . e be sure what it is. absolutely. a huge amount — be sure what it is. absolutely. a huge amount of— be sure what it is. absolutely. a huge amount of confusion. i be sure what it is. absolutely. a i huge amount of confusion. there's not really a standard set for this xl bully. we know from experience that pit bull types that is done through measurement and the experts have to look at about 60 different points of the dog to assess whether it is that and we will have the same with xl bully, there is potential that the government will put in the characteristics and measurements, with a many would fall into that. it's important, it's really good that people are seeking advice and considering this but if in doubt i would absolutely speak to a welfare organisation. we can help with muscle training, it's important to take the time to get dogs used to muzzle training, walking on a lead. there's a lot you can do to keep it safe. it's not the end of the world if you do muzzle training for other dogs and if it's not... we are getting inquiries which encourage more people... there are charities with good resources and advice for people and as we learn more from the government we will add more to those training packages as well. the government we will add more to those training packages as well.— training packages as well. the work ou do training packages as well. the work you do there _ training packages as well. the work you do there is _ training packages as well. the work you do there is brilliant. _ training packages as well. the work you do there is brilliant. just i training packages as well. the work you do there is brilliant. just a i you do there is brilliant. just a thought. you are at the centre now. it seems calm and not hearing any dogs or noise. i’m it seems calm and not hearing any dogs or noise-— it seems calm and not hearing any dogs or noise. i'm tucked away very auietl . dogs or noise. i'm tucked away very quietly- as — dogs or noise. i'm tucked away very quietly- as i — dogs or noise. i'm tucked away very quietly. as i have _ dogs or noise. i'm tucked away very quietly. as i have to _ dogs or noise. i'm tucked away very quietly. as i have to say _ dogs or noise. i'm tucked away very quietly. as i have to say as - dogs or noise. i'm tucked away very quietly. as i have to say as i - quietly. as i have to say as i walked in this morning, i saw one of our xl bully types out walking early this morning so tucked away because they can be quite a noisy bunch getting out and about.- they can be quite a noisy bunch getting out and about. linda, thank ou for getting out and about. linda, thank you for that- _ getting out and about. linda, thank you for that. we _ getting out and about. linda, thank you for that. we did _ getting out and about. linda, thank you for that. we did have _ getting out and about. linda, thank you for that. we did have a - you for that. we did have a statement from the government saying they are bringing together police, canine and veterinary experts to properly define the breed type in terms of the xl bully. thank you linda can talk from pets charity woodgrain. woodgreen. earlier this week on bbc breakfast, we launched the uk's biggest writing competition for children — 500 words. it gives young writers a chance to tell a story they'd love to read. to mark the launch, we've been meeting some everyday storytellers — as well as inspirational young people — to find out how writing can lead to bigger and better things. shaun peel has more. hi. how you doing? let's see. so, i'm amanda. we all tell stories. every day mightjust be about what happened at work or school with a bit of embellishment. amanda smith from the charity read for good goes into hospitals like thejenny lind in norwich and spins magical yarns to help children forget their pain for a while. today, ella is the audience, unlike your friend. today, ella is the audience. what's exciting and really interesting, especially about a story writing competition, is that you start wherever you are, whatever idea ignites in your imagination, and then you roll with it and you don't know how it's going to end. and so it's a really exciting process. and when you finish, sometimes you kind of sit there and go, wow, what happened there? ijust made this thing up and i had no idea that that story was in me. and i think that's really valuable. sisters kirsten and avon from northampton entered 500 words four years ago. they didn't win, but they loved the process so much. the process so much they kept on writing and went on to self—publish their own novels. now they're going to schools to inspire other students. we decided to put our own books into school libraries because we wanted to show children that no matter how young you are, no matter where you're from, no matter what your background is, you can do anything. 500 words is important to me because not only did it kickstart everything that we do now, it also taught me a lesson to say that failure doesn't equal simplyjust failure. it showed me resilience in that just because you fail doesn't mean that has to be the end of the story. it's simple. children between 5 and 11 are asked to write a fictional story they would love to read in no more than 500 words. so what would yours be about? it would definitely include a horse. maybe it can also fly as well. and it flies by doing massive trumps. like a little top trumps. like their character. my 500—word story i would be set in space. that's a best seller. i'm going to write this. back at thejenny lind hospital, ella decided there and then that she would start writing her story. well, i'd say, like near the end, you want to put baddies, but the first we want to introduce the like good people. and then in the middle of the story, near the end, i'd put like baddies and like wizards and scary people, monsters. and then at the end, i'd finish off with a happy ending doing like, like the happy people for me, start doing like, got the baddies to prison. and that is the end of my story. the end of that story, but maybe the start of yours. shaun peel reporting there. and to find out everything you need to know and the full terms and conditions and privacy notices head to bbc.co.uk the deadline for entry is friday 10th november 2023 at 8pm. this is breakfast. we're on bbc one until 10 o'clock this morning, when alexjones takes over in the saturday kitchen. alex — what's on the menu for us? our special guest is see sterling. you are — our special guest is see sterling. you are talking about your chair. it is all— you are talking about your chair. it is all about — you are talking about your chair. it is all about growing _ you are talking about your chair. it is all about growing up. _ you are talking about your chair. it is all about growing up. i- you are talking about your chair. it is all about growing up. i am i you are talking about your chair. it is all about growing up. i am at i you are talking about your chair. it. is all about growing up. i am at pha do not _ is all about growing up. i am at pha do not understand _ is all about growing up. i am at pha do not understand things _ is all about growing up. i am at pha do not understand things any - 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cocktails for you. all that? i feel like i am in love island! you - cocktails for you. all that? i feel like i am in love island! you are| like i am in love island! you are welcome! _ welcome! laughter. alex is losing it, going to be one of those mornings. thank you so much. the time is 9:35am and my concern of the sport coming up in just a couple of moments. —— and mike has all the sport. in april 1999, the bbc presenter and journalistjill dando was shot dead on her doorstep in london with a single bullet in broad daylight. twenty—four years on and despite one of the biggest murder investigations in british history, the case remains unsolved. now, her brother nigel hopes a new three—part netflix documentary will help solve the mystery of her murder. scott ellis reports. in the national and world news this morning... jill dando, born in weston super mare. i have to be honest, the sea here is never blue. she rose to considerable fame as a bbc presenter. that came to a violent end in april 1999. the golden girl of british television. murdered on her doorstep... in broad daylight. a new three—part netflix documentary investigates the 37—year—old's murder. jill's brother, a former newspaper and bbc radio bristoljournalist, hopes for new leads. perhaps somebody who saw something on the day, - who didn't think it was that important at the time, - but then realises the relevance of what they've seen or heard, | or even the killer themselves. it's never too late to jogj somebody's conscience, prick somebody's conscience, and maybe they'll give - themselves up to the police. and we can get closure i on this case and find out exactly who killed jill. barry george is interviewed in the documentary. he was acquitted ofjill�*s murder after eight years in prison. the other lines of investigation are looked at. perhaps it was a serbian hitman in revenge for nato's bombing of a belgrade tv station, or a crazed stalker? even an underworld hit? jill worked with the bbc�*s crimewatch programme. nigel has his own theory. my thoughts are that she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. i somebody was walking along that street who either knew her, - perhaps wanted five minutes of notoriety for whatever - reason was armed and used the gun to kill her. - so it's just around... i believe it wasjust a random killing. . news from the bbc... jill dando's murder led to one of the biggest ever investigations by the met police. 4,000 people were interviewed, but 2a years on, it remains a mystery. the dilemma for the family has always been whyjill was killed. there's no obvious reason, - but as i say, it's never too late for somebody to come forward and give us the explanation i as to what really, truly happened on that day. | nigel admits, though, his sister's murder may remain unsolved. scott ellis, bbc news. the tango is 938. mikejoins us for a look at the sport. you the tango is 938. mike 'oins us for a look at the sport._ the tango is 938. mike 'oins us for a look at the sport. you can see the euro ean a look at the sport. you can see the eur0pean fan _ a look at the sport. you can see the european fan stressing _ a look at the sport. you can see the european fan stressing as _ a look at the sport. you can see the european fan stressing as roman i european fan stressing as roman centurion is, they must feel like embracing the, seem just like they did years ago when victims were thrown to the alliance and the americans must feel a little bit more metaphorically. no—one predicted just how one sided this ryder cup would be with europe's gladiators totally dominant as they seek a record breaking win, to regain the trophy. after they went into this second day with a lead of 6.5 to 1.5, it's hard to see how the american's can recover after failing to win a single match. the second day is underway, and our sports correspondent andy swiss, is there. one can only imagine the contrast of words with the fans arriving today. euphoric europeans and the glum —looking americans? euphoric europeans and the glum -looking americans?— euphoric europeans and the glum -looking americans? yes, it was an incredible day _ -looking americans? yes, it was an incredible day for _ -looking americans? yes, it was an incredible day for europe _ -looking americans? yes, it was an| incredible day for europe yesterday. i do not think in their wildest dreams they could have asked only for anything more. the us showed some signs of life in the afternoon session but they could ultimately only tie through of the matches. in accessible drama on the 18th hole, especially from justin rose holed a putt to tie his match, what that meant to the european players and to justin rose himself was obvious. incredible drama, a terrific day for europe but a terrible one for the us. and afterwards, some interesting comments from the us captain zach johnson who said there had been some illness in the us team. he did not give too many details but he said it affected the energy level is perhaps of some of the us players but would the reasons, the us need something very special indeed if they are to launch a comeback. ! very special indeed if they are to launch a comeback.— launch a comeback. i suppose if euro -e launch a comeback. i suppose if eur0pe keep — launch a comeback. i suppose if eur0pe keep un _ launch a comeback. i suppose if europe keep up this _ launch a comeback. i suppose if europe keep up this way - launch a comeback. i suppose if europe keep up this way to - launch a comeback. i suppose if - europe keep up this way to progress it will be a case of when not if they were the trophy? let it will be a case of when not if they were the trophy?- it will be a case of when not if they were the trophy? let is right. you can see _ they were the trophy? let is right. you can see the _ they were the trophy? let is right. you can see the fans _ they were the trophy? let is right. you can see the fans are _ they were the trophy? let is right. you can see the fans are strung i they were the trophy? let is right. you can see the fans are strung in | you can see the fans are strung in behind me. the first band started arriving when it was pitch black outside, such confidence and optimism after the performance yesterday and they will head to the first team, the usual ryder cup atmosphere, lots of noise, loads of colour and fancy dress. the european fans not surprisingly in excellent voice and they have had plenty more to cheat this morning. i can tell you europe have won another match in quite remarkable fashion, the hoagland and his compatriot have thrashed brooks koepka and scottish opera he had a dreadful time. the one european pillar right nine and seven, the biggest win in any ryder cup match in history. it was in absolute trouncing and that really sums up the way things have been going. europe now leading by 7.5 points to 1.5 points, leading into the other three matches out on the course at the moment. unless something pretty dramatic happens from the us, we could be looking at one of the most one—sided rider cup tournaments we have ever seen. thank ou so tournaments we have ever seen. thank you so much. — tournaments we have ever seen. thank you so much. great— tournaments we have ever seen. thank you so much, great to _ tournaments we have ever seen. thank you so much, great to see _ tournaments we have ever seen. thank you so much, great to see all— tournaments we have ever seen. thank you so much, great to see all those costumes and outfits and the fans making the occasion. onto rugby league, and the elimators, and the season will end today for st helens, or warrington who meet in their winner takes all clash. last night, it was hull kr who advanced at the expense of the leigh leopards so getting revenge for what happened in the challenge cup final earlier this year. this time hull kr beat the leopards in their super league eliminator 20—6. the victory puts them into the semi finals — where they'll face wigan warriors or the catalan dragons — and just one match away from their first ever appearance in the super league grand final. waiting times for sheffield wednesday after the owner released a statement about his treatment by disgruntled fans. saying he will not put any money into the club. some are better on the pitch, when mr bottom of the championship table before being thrashed 3—0 by sunderland. we must do to win a game this season, sunderland or up to fourth. now to the rugby world cup where scotland are the only home nation in action this weekend and they will be hoping to get a big score on the board against romania, as they build up to their make or break match against ireland next weekend. i'm nowjoined by former scotland international and rugby pundit, johnnie beattie, who's in lille. looking great this morning, lots of fans behind you. debut, your scotland debut was against romania in 2006, i am sure this will bring back memories of that day but a different landscape? izierr; back memories of that day but a different landscape? very different. i made my debut — different landscape? very different. i made my debut in _ different landscape? very different. i made my debut in front _ different landscape? very different. i made my debut in front of - different landscape? very different. i made my debut in front of a - i made my debut in front of a thousand people, the rugby world cup, for a salad, tartan every four and kelso around the city and we are and kelso around the city and we are a profound sense so a completely different context, the scottish side i studied with 2006 and the steam looking for five points to march on. how important is it for scotland to get a statement tonight and a bonus point? it get a statement tonight and a bonus oint? . , get a statement tonight and a bonus oint? ., , ., , get a statement tonight and a bonus oint? ., , , , point? it has to be comprehensive. if ou are point? it has to be comprehensive. if you are going _ point? it has to be comprehensive. if you are going to _ point? it has to be comprehensive. if you are going to mix _ point? it has to be comprehensive. if you are going to mix and - point? it has to be comprehensive. if you are going to mix and match | if you are going to mix and match with other teams and set up a knockout game against ireland you must take five points from the scheme. more importantly the comprehensive magic that is the confidence you take. scotland have played in fits and starts but they have not had an 80 minute performance so this is a chance for them to come together, grew in confidence and play ireland in the confidence and play ireland in the confidence you take.— confidence and play ireland in the confidence you take. scotland have -la ed in confidence you take. scotland have played in fits _ confidence you take. scotland have played in fits and _ confidence you take. scotland have played in fits and starts _ confidence you take. scotland have played in fits and starts but - confidence you take. scotland have played in fits and starts but they i played in fits and starts but they have not had an 80 minute performance so this is a chance for them to come together, grew in confidence and play ireland in a knockout game. 13 being made to western players but give others a chance to stake their place in the team against ireland. ads, chance to stake their place in the team against ireland.— team against ireland. a great chance, team against ireland. a great chance. god _ team against ireland. a great chance, god like _ team against ireland. a great chance, god like hamish - team against ireland. a great - chance, god like hamish watson, one of the best back rows, has not had much game time. crespi, another combative forber, the chances are there to lay down a marker and they will try and take the place in the last game against ireland. this is their chance, impress gregor townsend, lots of changes but the structure and template of how we play will not change so how can players do a job and try and take a chance and get involved in the last game against ireland which will be huge. game against ireland which will be hue. ., . game against ireland which will be huie, ., . ., game against ireland which will be hue. ., . ., , huge. how much of the mind will be on that game _ huge. how much of the mind will be on that game already _ huge. how much of the mind will be on that game already going - huge. how much of the mind will be on that game already going into - huge. how much of the mind will be on that game already going into this match? . , . ~ on that game already going into this match? ., , ., ~ ,, on that game already going into this match? ., , ., ~ on that game already going into this match? ., , ., ' match? clearly thank you so, 13, 14 chan . es, match? clearly thank you so, 13, 14 changes. it — match? clearly thank you so, 13, 14 changes. it is _ match? clearly thank you so, 13, 14 changes, it is the _ match? clearly thank you so, 13, 14 changes, it is the game _ match? clearly thank you so, 13, 14 changes, it is the game but - match? clearly thank you so, 13, 14 changes, it is the game but must i changes, it is the game but must have been focused on that game at the outset and begin coming into this cruel port that we had to beat either south africa or ireland to progress in with lost to south africa and everything is in the game. we have to be confident in ourselves we can take five points and everything is in the game. we have to be confident in ourselves we can take five points, for want of another word but all scottish rugby supporters in france, the coaches and players know they have to progress it has to be the biggest performance of the world cup and potentially the past two or three years as a squad to beat ireland and make it out at the pool.— make it out at the pool. there is a eer make it out at the pool. there is a peer behind _ make it out at the pool. there is a peer behind you. _ make it out at the pool. there is a peer behind you, are _ make it out at the pool. there is a peer behind you, are you - make it out at the pool. there is a peer behind you, are you tempted make it out at the pool. there is a i peer behind you, are you tempted to dip in? and there are some steering. some goal—kicking, the biggest attraction has been the way first. i was down here with greek letter, we had some hot chocolate under waffle. this score was likely worsened last night at two or three in the morning, cats causing carnage but everyone is enjoying it, able blue takeover in scottish sport a sort takeover in scottish sport a sort takeover in scottish sport a sort takeover in scottish sport is all about so they are enjoying it, the social aspect of rugby has been fantastic. �* , ., social aspect of rugby has been fantastic. , ., ., social aspect of rugby has been fantastic. �* , ., ., ., fantastic. best of luck to scotland toda and fantastic. best of luck to scotland today and thank— fantastic. best of luck to scotland today and thank you _ fantastic. best of luck to scotland today and thank you so _ fantastic. best of luck to scotland today and thank you so much - fantastic. best of luck to scotland today and thank you so much forl fantastic. best of luck to scotland - today and thank you so much for your time this morning. one of the match yesterday as the rugby world cup gather steam towards the quarterfinals. waffle and the hot chocolate sounds fantastic. the time is 9:37am. a veteran has been remembering the moment ajapanese kamikaze plane smashed into the deck of the aircraft carrier he was serving on in the final months of the second world war. as part of the bbc�*s we were there project, aimed at capturing the memories of veterans, 98—year—old bob batty has been talking to our reporter steve humphrey. now for the first time we show actual— now for the first time we show actual shots _ now for the first time we show actual shots of— now for the first time we show actual shots of this _ now for the first time we show actual shots of this amazing i actual shots of this amazing kamikaze _ actual shots of this amazing kamikaze attacks, - actual shots of this amazing kamikaze attacks, filmed i actual shots of this amazing kamikaze attacks, filmed atj actual shots of this amazing - kamikaze attacks, filmed at extreme peril~ _ kamikaze attacks, filmed at extreme eril. ., , ., , kamikaze attacks, filmed at extreme eril. .,, .,, ., kamikaze attacks, filmed at extreme eril. ., , peril. our 'ob was to stop the kamikaze — peril. ourjob was to stop the kamikaze son _ peril. ourjob was to stop the kamikaze son that _ peril. ourjob was to stop the kamikaze son that coming i peril. ourjob was to stop the i kamikaze son that coming over, peril. ourjob was to stop the - kamikaze son that coming over, for the landing was going on, you know? the american marines and all of that. and that is when we got hit. for eight hours the tense and terrifying _ for eight hours the tense and terrifying battle _ for eight hours the tense and terrifying battle for— for eight hours the tense and terrifying battle for survival i for eight hours the tense and i terrifying battle for survival went on. terrifying battle for survival went on the — terrifying battle for survival went on. the carrier— terrifying battle for survival went on. the carrier is— terrifying battle for survival went on. the carrier is hit, _ terrifying battle for survival went on. the carrier is hit, though - terrifying battle for survival went on. the carrier is hit, though not disabled — on. the carrier is hit, though not disabled. . , on. the carrier is hit, though not disabled. ., , disabled. half past seven in the mornin: disabled. half past seven in the morning it _ disabled. half past seven in the morning it was _ disabled. half past seven in the morning it was we _ disabled. half past seven in the morning it was we got - disabled. half past seven in the morning it was we got hit. - disabled. half past seven in the i morning it was we got hit. straight coming down, you know? what in the middle of the flight deck. bob coming down, you know? what in the middle of the flight deck.— middle of the flight deck. bob has never forgotten _ middle of the flight deck. bob has never forgotten the _ middle of the flight deck. bob has never forgotten the moment - middle of the flight deck. bob has never forgotten the moment a - never forgotten the moment a japanese kamikaze plane crashed onto the aircraft carrier he was serving on in the far east.— the aircraft carrier he was serving on in the far east. were diving for of over because _ on in the far east. were diving for of over because people _ on in the far east. were diving for of over because people were - on in the far east. were diving forj of over because people were busy on in the far east. were diving for- of over because people were busy and we never had any ten helmets on the flight deck. we had a little cotton thing on your head. it flight deck. we had a little cotton thing on your head.— thing on your head. it happened durin: thing on your head. it happened during the _ thing on your head. it happened during the battle _ thing on your head. it happened during the battle of— thing on your head. it happened during the battle of okinawa - thing on your head. it happened during the battle of okinawa in l thing on your head. it happened i during the battle of okinawa in the 1st of april 1945. one hms indefatigable was providing air support to the american marines. it was the very first time a british aircraft carrier was hit by a kamikaze. bob from beaufort in was honour in feet on her nephew to go on, responsible for maintaining the aircraft guns and loading them with bombs and torpedoes. 21 men were killed in the kamikaze stock and many more were injured, including bob who was hit by several pieces of metal. . , . ., ., metal. the medics came in and bandaged _ metal. the medics came in and bandaged up — metal. the medics came in and bandaged up and _ metal. the medics came in and bandaged up and the _ metal. the medics came in and bandaged up and the rest - metal. the medics came in and bandaged up and the rest of i metal. the medics came in and bandaged up and the rest of it. j metal. the medics came in and - bandaged up and the rest of it. and one here so far, i have got one on the here and in malay, you know? that was the worst one because i have had to wear stockings ever since, you know? because this precious stockings i have to work all the veins went.— all the veins went. hms indefatigable _ all the veins went. hms indefatigable was - all the veins went. hms indefatigable was built l all the veins went. hms indefatigable was built during the war. at the time the biggest and fastest aircraft carrier in the navy. before going out to the far east it was involved in protecting convoys, famously her aircraft were involved in attacks on the german battleship. there were a lot of accidents. battleship. there were a lot of accidents-— battleship. there were a lot of accidents. , ., ., accidents. many crashes. the author, it was. to accidents. many crashes. the author, it was to this — accidents. many crashes. the author, it was. to this day, _ accidents. many crashes. the author, it was. to this day, bob _ accidents. many crashes. the author, it was. to this day, bob remembers l accidents. many crashes. the author, j it was. to this day, bob remembers a traced it was. to this day, bob remembers a tragedy when — it was. to this day, bob remembers a tragedy when one _ it was. to this day, bob remembers a tragedy when one plane _ it was. to this day, bob remembers a tragedy when one plane crashed - it was. to this day, bob remembers a tragedy when one plane crashed on i tragedy when one plane crashed on top of another on the flight deck. last november but bed and he landed straight on the other one and of course the pilot had his head out... for what does the pilot of one plane was decapitated and his two best mates were also killed. do]!!! was decapitated and his two best mates were also killed.— was decapitated and his two best mates were also killed. all in the same incident? _ mates were also killed. all in the same incident? yes, _ mates were also killed. all in the same incident? yes, three - mates were also killed. all in the same incident? yes, three of- mates were also killed. all in the i same incident? yes, three of them, all are buried in scapa flow and i dreamt about them for years. it all are buried in scapa flow and i dreamt about them for years. it was 80 ears dreamt about them for years. it was 80 years ago _ dreamt about them for years. it was 80 years ago but — dreamt about them for years. it was 80 years ago but remain _ dreamt about them for years. it was 80 years ago but remain splash - dreamt about them for years. it was 80 years ago but remain splash day fresh in his mind. is it to as was all those years ago?— fresh in his mind. is it to as was all those years ago? yes. his last words to me _ all those years ago? yes. his last words to me will _ all those years ago? yes. his last words to me will happy, - all those years ago? yes. his last words to me will happy, bob. - all those years ago? yes. his last| words to me will happy, bob. and then he went, yellow... that is what got me. —— his last words were to me, help me. got me. -- his last words were to me. help me— got me. -- his last words were to me, help me. bob 's were entered in the far east — me, help me. bob 's were entered in the far east and _ me, help me. bob 's were entered in the far east and hms _ me, help me. bob 's were entered in the far east and hms indefatigable l the far east and hms indefatigable said to tokyo bay for the japanese surrender. fade said to tokyo bay for the japanese surrender. ~ ., .., , ., ., surrender. we were anti-captain gave out anybody — surrender. we were anti-captain gave out anybody in _ surrender. we were anti-captain gave out anybody in the _ surrender. we were anti-captain gave out anybody in the flight _ surrender. we were anti-captain gave out anybody in the flight deck - surrender. we were anti-captain gave out anybody in the flight deck look i out anybody in the flight deck look to the port side, you will see king george vflying to the port side, you will see king george v flying the signal to cease hostilities against the japanese and everybody was cheering, you know and all of that? �* ., �* ., , ., all of that? after the war, bob had all of that? after the war, bob had a lona all of that? after the war, bob had a long career— all of that? after the war, bob had a long career in — all of that? after the war, bob had a long career in the _ all of that? after the war, bob had a long career in the fire _ all of that? after the war, bob had a long career in the fire service i a long career in the fire service and vulture. he says he will never forget the mates who did not come home. we should say our sincere thanks to bob for sharing his extraordinary story and the emotions that he still feels so clearly all this talk later.— this talk later. absolutely, so important _ this talk later. absolutely, so important to _ this talk later. absolutely, so important to share _ this talk later. absolutely, so important to share their- this talk later. absolutely, so l important to share their stories this talk later. absolutely, so - important to share their stories and thatis important to share their stories and that is exactly what the project is all about. getting as many of those first—hand accounts for surviving veterans as possible. if you have a story to share, or know someone who does get in touch. the details are on your screen. here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. the weather watchers have been doing a sterling job this morning.— a sterling 'ob this morning. though i and a sterling job this morning. though i and thank you _ a sterling job this morning. though i and thank you so _ a sterling job this morning. though i and thank you so much. _ i and thank you so much. good morning. some sunshine here this morning. some sunshine here this morning across the highlands, will see the best of the weather today, not quite the same everywhere because already in and around northern ireland, at this picture not far from belfast, northern ireland, at this picture not farfrom belfast, grey northern ireland, at this picture not far from belfast, grey skies overhead producing when later. but it looks calm but they will pick up as the breeze strengthens a through into the afternoon. this weather system which brings about the change, it's going to push on through the central sways of the uk so it means top and tail of the country, not looking too bad and google see sunny spells, the best of which is in the north of scotland. sir e—books in east anglia and southern counties in the channel islands, cloud coming and going by further north is for the win sets and across north and west wales. some heavy rain into northern ireland this afternoon spreading into south scotland and starts to make its way into north—west england. temperatures to the north of the country 12—14 but the strong one today, to the south, highs of 20 or 21. when times too much, much of the northern half of the uk through the northern half of the uk through the first part of the night and for some it will instantly continue to see heavy rain into northern ireland this afternoon spreading into south—west scotland and starts to make its way into north—west england. temperatures to the north of the country 12—14 but the strong one today, to the south, highs of 20 or 21. wrong at times too much of the northern half of the uk through the northern half of the uk through the first part of the night and for some it will instantly continue to see happy wales, down to begin with, quite misty and perky around the hills, black meat later on. fizzling a bit as it pushes south—west england, the midlands and lincolnshire, lots of sunshine in scotland and northern ireland, pushing into northern england and north wales and temperatures higher than today but to the south and east, sunshine amounts varying, 23/20 4 degrees distinctly possible. making it a pretty warm starting october. the warmer air tied and across much of europe at the moment with high pressure. the ones coming in on the western side of it but we are still on the edge of the high pressure and more friends coming into monday. after a bright start quickly clubbing over in england and wales with rain developing through the day, some pulses heavy and thundery. how far into northern england that gets is a question at the moment but in scotland and northern ireland some show us and some sunshine. temperatures down on sunday, 14—17 . not bad for the state in october and in the south and east, it's still warm, 21—23 possible, maybe even more if you get more sunshine. temperatures dipping from the north as we go into tuesday but it's still warm in the sunshine, and later in the week in the southern north and west. thank you and have a lovely weekend. we have been reporting _ and have a lovely weekend. we have been reporting all _ and have a lovely weekend. we have been reporting all this _ and have a lovely weekend. we have been reporting all this week - and have a lovely weekend. we have been reporting all this week on - and have a lovely weekend. we have been reporting all this week on howl been reporting all this week on how the basic a mug was cut down. it the basic a mug was cut down. it landmark and cutting down has sparked a huge amount of anger. our reporter has been following the story and she is at the site this morning. alison, good morning, the code and put the commission about police has been around? the code and put the commission about police has been around?— police has been around? the police ta -e is police has been around? the police tape is gone. _ police has been around? the police tape is gone. no — police has been around? the police tape is gone, no longer _ police has been around? the police tape is gone, no longer a _ police has been around? the police tape is gone, no longer a crime - tape is gone, no longer a crime scene. _ tape is gone, no longer a crime scene, you _ tape is gone, no longer a crime scene, you can see the scale of it with— scene, you can see the scale of it with me — scene, you can see the scale of it with me stood next to it. so forensic _ with me stood next to it. so forensic officers here yesterday while _ forensic officers here yesterday while the tape was up and they were taking _ while the tape was up and they were taking measurements, photographs, scraping _ taking measurements, photographs, scraping away bark and sawdust just so they— scraping away bark and sawdust just so they could get samples for the ongoing _ so they could get samples for the ongoing police investigation. referring to that we had an update last night— referring to that we had an update last night which was a man in his 60s has— last night which was a man in his 60s has been arrested in connection with it _ 60s has been arrested in connection with it lots — 60s has been arrested in connection with it. lots of people coming here this morning, coming through. there's— this morning, coming through. there's a — this morning, coming through. there's a sense of sadness and lots of anger, _ there's a sense of sadness and lots of anger, grief, there's a sense of sadness and lots ofanger, grief, if there's a sense of sadness and lots of anger, grief, if you like is what some _ of anger, grief, if you like is what some people have been describing stop i've _ some people have been describing stop i've managed to grab some of the make _ stop i've managed to grab some of the make and wait here, johnny, you live fairly— the make and wait here, johnny, you live fairly locally but you have decided — live fairly locally but you have decided to compare with your wife and nephewjust to look at what is left. and nephew 'ust to look at what is left. ., , ., ., ., left. tell me what you have done that? it is _ left. tell me what you have done that? it is to — left. tell me what you have done that? it is to pay _ left. tell me what you have done that? it is to pay our _ left. tell me what you have done that? it is to pay our respects, . left. tell me what you have done that? it is to pay our respects, itj that? it is to pay our respects, it is a bereavement, _ that? it is to pay our respects, it is a bereavement, internationall that? it is to pay our respects, it. is a bereavement, international and national— is a bereavement, international and national icon — is a bereavement, international and national icon that _ is a bereavement, international and national icon that needed _ is a bereavement, international and national icon that needed to - 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doesn't it, and you have to be here to feel— doesn't it, and you have to be here to feel that? — doesn't it, and you have to be here to feel that? i doesn't it, and you have to be here to feel that?— to feel that? i cannot understand why someone — to feel that? i cannot understand why someone would _ to feel that? i cannot understand why someone would do - to feel that? i cannot understand. why someone would do something to feel that? i cannot understand - why someone would do something like this but— why someone would do something like this but it's _ why someone would do something like this but it's crazy— why someone would do something like this but it's crazy and _ why someone would do something like this but it's crazy and i— why someone would do something like this but it's crazy and i wanted - why someone would do something like this but it's crazy and i wanted to - this but it's crazy and i wanted to see it _ this but it's crazy and i wanted to see it before _ this but it's crazy and i wanted to see it before it _ this but it's crazy and i wanted to see it before it went. _ this but it's crazy and i wanted to see it before it went.— this but it's crazy and i wanted to see it before it went. thank you for sta inc see it before it went. thank you for staying and — see it before it went. thank you for staying and talking _ see it before it went. thank you for staying and talking to _ see it before it went. thank you for staying and talking to us. - see it before it went. thank you for staying and talking to us. let - staying and talking to us. let me take the — staying and talking to us. let me take the camera that way, this way? as you _ take the camera that way, this way? as you can _ take the camera that way, this way? as you can see, we left about your pm yesterday and arrived again early this morning and someone has put in a new— this morning and someone has put in a new tree _ this morning and someone has put in a new tree and we're not sure whether— a new tree and we're not sure whether it — a new tree and we're not sure whether it will be allowed to stay, whether— whether it will be allowed to stay, whether it — whether it will be allowed to stay, whether it is able to stay but echoing _ whether it is able to stay but echoing some of the thingsjohnny said much— echoing some of the thingsjohnny said much as we saw a family come from _ said much as we saw a family come from australia, they arrived early this morning and they said they did not know— this morning and they said they did not know this famous tree had disappeared so whether this will stay in _ disappeared so whether this will stay in its — disappeared so whether this will stay in its place, we do not know. back— stay in its place, we do not know. back to _ stay in its place, we do not know. back to you _ stay in its place, we do not know. back to you. alison, thank you so much. interesting hearing from people who have gone there to get a sense of the place of the occasion. incredible how much it treatments to people. —— incredible how much a tree means to people. that's all we've got time for this morning, breakfast will be back tomorrow at 6. have a lovely day, goodbye. live from london... this is bbc news. the threat of a us government shutdown inches closer, after members of congress fail to reach an agreement on spending. 15—year—old jessica baker has been named as the teenage girl who died in a school bus crash on the m53 in the wirral. the driver, stephen shrimpton, also died. 27 years after the death of tupac shakur, police in nevada charge a former gang leader for the murder of the american hip—hop star. hello. the us government will run out of money to fund itself by the end of saturday — unless congress can agree a last—minute deal. it would be the 22nd time in the past 50 years that us government services have had to be shut down because of a budget deadlock in congress. the us house of representatives will reconvene in washington on saturday morning local time. sean dilley has the latest. well, this is what you get when the house of representatives