hour we hear some of the stories that will make tomorrow's returning london marathon so special. £15 that will make tomorrow's returning london marathon so special. 45 years after the launch _ london marathon so special. 45 years after the launch of _ london marathon so special. 45 years after the launch of saturday _ london marathon so special. 45 years after the launch of saturday morning | after the launch of saturday morning kids could pose tv, we are going to take a look at the secret to its success. ~' f take a look at the secret to its success. ~ a ,,., ._ take a look at the secret to its success. ~ a ._ , take a look at the secret to its success. ~ a , ., success. -- kids' tv. saturday is on (bbc are success. -- kids' tv. saturday is on cbbc are new _ success. -- kids' tv. saturday is on (bbc are now filled _ success. -- kids' tv. saturday is on (bbc are now filled with _ success. -- kids' tv. saturday is on| cbbc are now filled with challenges, live music, sporting conquest and possibly a bit of slowing. find live music, sporting conquest and possibly a bit of slowing. and while the will possibly a bit of slowing. and while they will be — possibly a bit of slowing. and while they will be a _ possibly a bit of slowing. and while they will be a bit _ possibly a bit of slowing. and while they will be a bit more _ possibly a bit of slowing. and while they will be a bit more sunshine . they will be a bit more sunshine around — they will be a bit more sunshine around tomorrow, today, plenty of cloud, _ around tomorrow, today, plenty of cloud, outbreaks of rain, the heaviest _ cloud, outbreaks of rain, the heaviest offer in the south which will also — heaviest offer in the south which will also see the strongest of the wind~ _ will also see the strongest of the wind~ ill— will also see the strongest of the wind. i'll have the details here on breakfast — good morning. saturday october to, and our top stories that the prime minister has promised reform of the criminaljustice minister has promised reform of the criminal justice system following the murder of sarah everard by a serving police officer. boris johnson urged the public to trust the police, but admitted it is infuriating that cases of violence against women and girls are not being taken seriously enough. he also said the government needs to come down very hard on problems in the metropolitan police. simonjones has more. the death of sarah everard prompted an outpouring of public grief. now the government says it has determined that is determined her murder will bring about permanent change in how society deals with violence against women and girls. prime minister says there are too few prosecutions and convictions for sexual violence. the few prosecutions and convictions for sexual violence.— sexual violence. the time from re ort to sexual violence. the time from report to referral, _ sexual violence. the time from report to referral, from - sexual violence. the time from | report to referral, from referral sexual violence. the time from i report to referral, from referral to the court proceedings, from the court proceedings to be conclusion, all three of those segments, is far too long, and what you are seeing is the whole system snarled up with evidential problems, with data issues, mobile phones disclosure, all that kind of stuff, and it is a nightmare for the women concerned. wayne couzens kidnapped, raped and murdered sarah everard. he then dumped her body in woodland and kent. cars registered to him had previously been linked to two allegations of indecent exposure, but he wasn't identified as a potential sex offender. it is claimed he also used a whatsapp group to swap misogynistic messages with officers from the metropolitan police, the civil nuclear constabulary and the norfolk constabulary. indie constabulary and the norfolk constabulary.— constabulary and the norfolk constabula .~ ., ., ._, ,, constabulary. we also got to address the issues going _ constabulary. we also got to address the issues going on _ constabulary. we also got to address the issues going on within _ constabulary. we also got to address the issues going on within the - the issues going on within the police force, and you will have seen the stuff about the officers on a whatsapp group, you've got to come down very hard on that.— down very hard on that. home secretary _ down very hard on that. home secretary says _ down very hard on that. home secretary says the _ down very hard on that. home secretary says the police - down very hard on that. homej secretary says the police must down very hard on that. home - secretary says the police must raise the bar by taking harassment and flashing more seriously. priti patel told the telegraph they should not be considered low—level crimes. the metropolitan police as it is putting more officers in places where people feel unsafe. indie more officers in places where people feel unsafe. ~ ., more officers in places where people feel unsafe-— feel unsafe. we are absolutely committed _ feel unsafe. we are absolutely committed to _ feel unsafe. we are absolutely committed to tackling - feel unsafe. we are absolutelyj committed to tackling violence against women and girls, and that is going to be one of our priorities. it is one of our priorities. so you will see us out on patrol in hotspots. will see us out on patrol in hotspots— will see us out on patrol in hotsots. �* ., ., , , hotspots. but there are more because the scrutiny of — hotspots. but there are more because the scrutiny of the _ hotspots. but there are more because the scrutiny of the police _ the scrutiny of the police themselves.— the scrutiny of the police themselves. ., ., , , ., themselves. how many times have we heard, themselves. how many times have we heard. lessons — themselves. how many times have we heard, lessons will— themselves. how many times have we heard, lessons will be _ themselves. how many times have we heard, lessons will be learned? - themselves. how many times have we heard, lessons will be learned? and . heard, lessons will be learned? and how often, — heard, lessons will be learned? and how often, really, are they? i think there _ how often, really, are they? i think there are _ how often, really, are they? i think there are some things that need to be there are some things that need to he done _ there are some things that need to he done for— there are some things that need to be done far more publicly and one of those _ be done far more publicly and one of those is _ be done far more publicly and one of those is a _ be done far more publicly and one of those is a public enquiry along the lines _ those is a public enquiry along the lines of— those is a public enquiry along the lines of the macpherson enquiry into the murder— lines of the macpherson enquiry into the murder of stephen lawrence. that was a _ the murder of stephen lawrence. that was a seismic change for policing in relation _ was a seismic change for policing in relation to— was a seismic change for policing in relation to racism. we need that around _ relation to racism. we need that around misogyny.— around misogyny. opposition politicians— around misogyny. opposition politicians accused _ around misogyny. opposition politicians accused the - around misogyny. opposition - politicians accused the government of starting the police and courts of resources, but there is a growing consensus that the death of sarah everard must act as a watershed moment. the army will begin delivering fuel to forecourts from monday to try to ease the pressure at petrol stations. ministers are also allowing up to 300 of the 5000 hgv drivers being recruited from abroad to come to the uk immediately. the government says the rest will arrive later this month. political correspondent peter soul has more. we started to see scenes like this in parts of the uk last weekend. frustrated drivers desperately trying to fill up, and now, the government is calling in the military. some service personnel will be a providing support today, and from monday, soldiers will be driving petrol tankers themselves. so why has it taken so long? melt. so why has it taken so long? well, first of all. — so why has it taken so long? well, first of all. you _ so why has it taken so long? well, first of all, you are _ so why has it taken so long? well, first of all, you are asking - first of all, you are asking military personnel who are trained to drive tankers across country to take tankers full of highly flammable liquids into built—up areas, onto forecourts where you and i fill up our cars. areas, onto forecourts where you and ifill up our cars. and it has areas, onto forecourts where you and i fill up our cars. and it has to areas, onto forecourts where you and ifill up our cars. and it has to be the case that we make sure they get the case that we make sure they get the appropriate training to do so. you know, ithink the appropriate training to do so. you know, i think we would all expect that to be the right thing. and at the same time we need to work with industry so that we know where we are sending them. we can'tjust send them to random garages, it has to be properly deployed. this send them to random garages, it has to be properly deployed.— to be properly deployed. as well as the suoport — to be properly deployed. as well as the suoport from — to be properly deployed. as well as the support from the _ to be properly deployed. as well as the support from the armed - to be properly deployed. as well as| the support from the armed forces, more drivers will be allowed into the uk from overseas. a new scheme will be —— will allow up to 300 take drivers to come and work immediately. haulage firms will find potential recruits and apply to the government for licenses. up to a700 lorry driver specialising in food delivery will start to arrive from the end of this month. this temporary visa scheme has been extended until the end of february. 5500 poultry workers will be granted the right to work here too, until the right to work here too, until the end of the year. ministers hope these measures, along with efforts to recruit more british staff, will address some of the problems in the supply chain. but there could still be a tough winter ahead. an experiment or drug used to treat severe cases of covid cuts the risk of hospitalisation or death by about half. this is what clinical trial results from the us adjust. if approved, the pill would be the first oral antiviral medication for covid—i9. medical advisors in the united states say the results are very good news but urged caution until the data has been reviewed. vaccine passports came into effect for the first time last night in scotland. people need proof of vaccination to get entry into nightclubs or large events. the scheme will be mandatory from october 18, and the rules are seen as a way of allowing humans to go ahead despite the surge in cases of covid. ~ �* ., , ahead despite the surge in cases of covid. ~ �* . , ., ., covid. we've ultimately made a decision in _ covid. we've ultimately made a decision in society _ covid. we've ultimately made a decision in society to _ covid. we've ultimately made a decision in society to respect i decision in society to respect people who don't want to get vaccinated. i think that is why it is a little bit disappointing, even though i myself am double vaccinated, but there isn't an option for people who don't want to get vaccinated, we not respecting their opinions by being able to submit a negative lateral flow and go to a nightclub, seeing effectively, don't come. so go to a nightclub, seeing effectively, don't come. so the next time ou effectively, don't come. so the next time you go — effectively, don't come. so the next time you go clubbing _ effectively, don't come. so the next time you go clubbing in _ effectively, don't come. so the next time you go clubbing in scotland, i time you go clubbing in scotland, you need your passport. i time you go clubbing in scotland, you need your passport. i will time you go clubbing in scotland, you need your passport.- you need your passport. i will be read . you need your passport. i will be ready- yes. _ you need your passport. i will be ready- yes. he — you need your passport. i will be ready. yes, be ready. _ you need your passport. i will be ready. yes, be ready. a- you need your passport. i will be ready. yes, be ready. a retired l ready. yes, be ready. a retired aeneral ready. yes, be ready. a retired general is _ ready. yes, be ready. a retired general is to — ready. yes, be ready. a retired general is to lead _ ready. yes, be ready. a retired general is to lead a _ ready. yes, be ready. a retired general is to lead a review - ready. yes, be ready. a retired general is to lead a review of i ready. yes, be ready. a retired i general is to lead a review of the nhs and social care in england with the aim of reducing regional inequalities. the former vice chief of the defence staff, general sir gordon messenger, will look at developing a pool of future leaders, including some from outside healthcare sectors. nhs providers, which speaks in behalf of hospitals and other health trusts in england, set international evidence shows the nhs is one of the most efficient health services in the world. the volcano that has been erupting for the last 11 days on the spanish island of la palma is spewing out of control again. two new streams of lava are now threatening further disruption, many homes and crops have been destroyed, and thousands of people have been forced to evacuate since the eruptions began last month. i know you are excited about this. i last month. i know you are excited about this-— about this. i was intrigued by this, es. what about this. i was intrigued by this, yes- what we _ about this. i was intrigued by this, yes. what we are _ about this. i was intrigued by this, yes. what we are talking - about this. i was intrigued by this, yes. what we are talking about. about this. i was intrigued by this, yes. what we are talking about is| yes. what we are talking about is adele and what _ yes. what we are talking about is adele and what the _ yes. what we are talking about is adele and what the number - yes. what we are talking about is adele and what the number 30 l adele and what the number 30 projected onto the side of buildings around the world could mean. you've liven it around the world could mean. you've given it away- — around the world could mean. you've given it away. according _ around the world could mean. you've given it away. according to _ around the world could mean. you've given it away. according to adele - given it away. according to adele transit could _ given it away. according to adele transit could be _ given it away. according to adele transit could be a _ given it away. according to adele transit could be a hint _ given it away. according to adele transit could be a hint the - given it away. according to adele transit could be a hint the singer| transit could be a hint the singer is about to release new music. her last album — is about to release new music. her last album was _ is about to release new music. he: last album was cold 25, and i think before that it was 21. and now the number 30 has suddenly been spotted on landmarks. the louvre in paris, the empire state building in new york, the acropolis, the houses of parliament and speculation is growing that this is about adele reggie —— releasing a new album. did reggie -- releasing a new album. did ou reggie —— releasing a new album. did you look at a website? reggie -- releasing a new album. did you look at a website? apparently - you look at a website? apparently chan . ed you look at a website? apparently changed overnight, _ you look at a website? apparently changed overnight, the _ you look at a website? apparently changed overnight, the font - you look at a website? apparently changed overnight, the font has i changed overnight, the font has changed, there is nothing on it but i'll be inside air. it is almost like we are being hyped up about this. ., ~ ., , , like we are being hyped up about this. ., . ., , , ., _ this. no! we are buying into it by talkin: this. no! we are buying into it by talking about _ this. no! we are buying into it by talking about it. _ this. no! we are buying into it by talking about it. and _ this. no! we are buying into it by talking about it. and we - this. no! we are buying into it by talking about it. and we will- this. no! we are buying into it by talking about it. and we will do i this. no! we are buying into it by i talking about it. and we will do the next four hours. _ talking about it. and we will do the next four hours. at _ talking about it. and we will do the next four hours. at least. - talking about it. and we will do the next four hours. at least. from - next four hours. at least. from clune next four hours. at least. from gunge and _ next four hours. at least. from gunge and slime _ next four hours. at least. from gunge and slime to _ next four hours. at least. from gunge and slime to phone - next four hours. at least. from gunge and slime to phone ins l next four hours. at least. from i gunge and slime to phone ins with p0p gunge and slime to phone ins with pop stars, saturday morning television has been attending kids for decades. television has been attending kids for decades-— television has been attending kids for decades. ., ., ., .. , for decades. four and half decades, in fact. 45 for decades. four and half decades, in fact- 45 years _ for decades. four and half decades, in fact. as years ago _ for decades. four and half decades, in fact. as years ago today, - for decades. four and half decades, in fact. as years ago today, noel i in fact. a5 years ago today, noel edmonds first presented multi— culture talk shop and the presenters and programmes might have changed through the years, it is kind of, it has evolved, hasn't it? one thing to another but it has all stayed in pretty much the same format. the old ones were the — pretty much the same format. the old ones were the best. _ pretty much the same format. the old ones were the best. i _ pretty much the same format. the old ones were the best. i couldn't - pretty much the same format. the old ones were the best. i couldn't say i ones were the best. i couldn't say multicoloured swap shop easily when i was a kid. amy hassell has been looking back through the archives. it was 1976. concord made its first non—stop flight across the atlantic. brotherhood of man won the eurovision song contest, and after a hard week at school, children's weekend started to look a whole lot brighter. weekend started to look a whole lot briahter. 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' g: ii . ,,. . , brighter. 9:30 a.m., saturday morning. _ brighter. 9:30 a.m., saturday morning, welcome _ brighter. 9:30 a.m., saturday morning, welcome indeed. i brighter. 9:30 a.m., saturday- morning, welcome indeed. presenter noel edmonds— morning, welcome indeed. presenter noel edmonds was _ morning, welcome indeed. presenter noel edmonds was joined _ morning, welcome indeed. presenter noel edmonds was joined by - morning, welcome indeed. presenter noel edmonds was joined by noel i noel edmonds was joined by noel craven and keith jackman, along with celebrity guests, a child audience, and of course a puppet dinosaur. it was the first time children had been given the chance to interact with the television. they could call up a p0p the television. they could call up a pop star, right to be presenters, and join a pop star, right to be presenters, andjoin a club pop star, right to be presenters, and join a club of their very own. the team played to the live element by improvising their way through sketches... it i by improvising their way through sketches- - -_ sketches... if i give this a little ull, sketches... if i give this a little pull. they _ sketches... if i give this a little pull. they will _ sketches... if i give this a little pull, they will be _ sketches... if i give this a little pull, they will be a _ sketches... if i give this a little pull, they will be a delay i sketches... if i give this a little pull, they will be a delay but i sketches... if i give this a little pull, they will be a delay but it| pull, they will be a delay but it ought to pull at your end. showing the audience _ ought to pull at your end. showing the audience behind _ ought to pull at your end. showing the audience behind the _ ought to pull at your end. showing the audience behind the scenes, i ought to pull at your end. showing i the audience behind the scenes, and for the first time, production staff were heard off—camera. within weeks, ratings went sky high. and kids were talking about it in the playground. parents would use a three—hour entertainment show is a bit of a babysitter, and it was rumoured to be the reason for a baby boom. we've got a really tight programme today. and in 1977, keith, an and john were joined by female presenter maggie philbin. this joined by female presenter maggie philbin. , ., , joined by female presenter maggie philbin. , .,, , joined by female presenter maggie philbin. , , , , philbin. this was my very first “0b and i philbin. this was my very first “0b and r — philbin. this was my very first “0b and i never expected i philbin. this was my very first “0b and i never expected to i philbin. this was my very first “0b and i never expected to get i philbin. this was my very first job and i never expected to get it. i philbin. this was my very first job and i never expected to get it. so philbin. this was my very first job. and i never expected to get it. so i was absolutely thrilled, but also completely terrifying, because i had absolutely zero experience. i think that ignorance was bliss back in the day, when i was doing swap shop, there were only three television channels. that meant that the immediacy of your contact with millions of children and adults was absolute. . ., , millions of children and adults was absolute. ,, ., , ,, ., , ., , millions of children and adults was absolute. ,, . , ,, ., , . , . , absolute. swap shop was initially lanned absolute. swap shop was initially planned for _ absolute. swap shop was initially planned forjust _ absolute. swap shop was initially planned forjust 12 _ absolute. swap shop was initially planned forjust 12 weeks, - absolute. swap shop was initially planned forjust 12 weeks, but i planned forjust 12 weeks, but continued to keep kids hooked for six years. continued to keep kids hooked for six ears. ., , ., , , .,, continued to keep kids hooked for six ears. ., , ., , , ., six years. from the swap shop team, aoodb e. six years. from the swap shop team, goodbye- after— six years. from the swap shop team, goodbye. after swap _ six years. from the swap shop team, goodbye. after swap shop _ six years. from the swap shop team, goodbye. after swap shop came i six years. from the swap shop team, goodbye. after swap shop came the l goodbye. after swap shop came the saturday superstore. _ goodbye. after swap shop came the saturday superstore. in _ goodbye. after swap shop came the saturday superstore. in 1987 - goodbye. after swap shop came the saturday superstore. in 1987 came l saturday superstore. in 1987 came going live with philips sojoe feld and sarah greene, and then libint kicking, cd uk, tmi the saturday show. ~ ., v ., kicking, cd uk, tmi the saturday show. ~ . �*, ., �* ., show. well, that's all we've got time for today, _ show. well, that's all we've got time for today, but _ show. well, that's all we've got time for today, but had - show. well, that's all we've got time for today, but had to i show. well, that's all we've got time for today, but had to the l time for today, but had to the newsround website for loads more. have a great day. bye. well, newsround has been synonymous with children's tv since the 19705. but many of us will also remember the broom cupboard. well, it currently shows the studio with newsround, but backin shows the studio with newsround, but back in the 19705 and 805, it had its own specific hideaway, and was in fact just its own specific hideaway, and was in factju5t an original broom cupboard. it could only fit in one camera and one presenter. cupboard. it could only fit in one camera and one pre5enter. a bit different from the one we use today. but walking through this door, we enter the world of saturday morning live television. saturday is cbbc are now filled with challenges, live music, sporting conquests and possibly a bit of slime. not too dissimilarfrom what it possibly a bit of slime. not too dissimilar from what it was like a5 years ago. well, saturday ma5h well, saturday mash up is the current saturday morning live television show for children, and we are going behind the scenes, because presenter5 joe and are going behind the scenes, because presentersjoe and hart are getting ready rehearsing for this morning's show. ~ , ., , ready rehearsing for this morning's show. ~ , . , , show. when we started this, we still can't believe — show. when we started this, we still can't believe it, _ show. when we started this, we still can't believe it, it _ show. when we started this, we still can't believe it, it has _ show. when we started this, we still can't believe it, it has been - show. when we started this, we still can't believe it, it has been a - show. when we started this, we still can't believe it, it has been a long i can't believe it, it has been a long time. we used to watch it from abuse to have our breakfa5t time. we used to watch it from abuse to have our breakfast in front of the tv and watch it but now we are actually doing it, presenting it. i still kinda feel like we think 5till kinda feel like we think our5elve5 5till kinda feel like we think ourselves on a saturday morning, is this obviously children's morning tv has been going for a5 year5 this obviously children's morning tv has been going for a5 years now. do you feel part of history? becau5e honestly you have some amazing people in el acknowledgements and john craven. do you kinda feel like you're part of history? i john craven. do you kinda feel like you're part of history?— you're part of history? i don't know. i don't _ you're part of history? i don't know. i don't know— you're part of history? i don't know. i don't know if- you're part of history? i don't know. i don't know if we i you're part of history? i don't| know. i don't know if we have you're part of history? i don't i know. i don't know if we have quite reached their _ know. i don't know if we have quite reached their calibre, _ know. i don't know if we have quite reached their calibre, but _ know. i don't know if we have quite reached their calibre, but we i know. i don't know if we have quite reached their calibre, but we are i reached their calibre, but we are aiming _ reached their calibre, but we are aiming for— reached their calibre, but we are aiming for it. baby steps, but it is nice to _ aiming for it. baby steps, but it is nice to know— aiming for it. baby steps, but it is nice to know that we are on the same step ladder~ — nice to know that we are on the same step ladder. that is like, whoa. things— step ladder. that is like, whoa. things are _ step ladder. that is like, whoa. things are different now, years ago it was, like, there were less other platforms to watch things on, but we're still keeping it here, 5till we're still keeping it here, still doing what we do and i think it should definitely stick yeah. ahshd doing what we do and i think it should definitely stick yeah. and it is that childlike _ should definitely stick yeah. and it is that childlike from _ should definitely stick yeah. and it is that childlike from that - should definitely stick yeah. and it is that childlike from that perhaps fluid some of their biggest 5tar5 fluid some of their biggest stars and the world's most important people onto saturday morning live tv. but they may be didn't expect the unpredictability of working with children. ., ~ the unpredictability of working with children-_ in - the unpredictability of working with children._ in the i children. hello, alison? in the event of a _ children. hello, alison? in the event of a nuclear— children. hello, alison? in the event of a nuclear war, - children. hello, alison? in the event of a nuclear war, where | children. hello, alison? in the i event of a nuclear war, where will you be? _ event of a nuclear war, where will you be? trie— event of a nuclear war, where will ou be? p ,, event of a nuclear war, where will you be?— it - event of a nuclear war, where willj you be?— it gave you be? my goodness me. it gave children a voice _ you be? my goodness me. it gave children a voice for— you be? my goodness me. it gave children a voice for the _ you be? my goodness me. it gave children a voice for the first i you be? my goodness me. it gave children a voice for the first time. | children a voice for the first time. they were listened to. and the national pre55 wanted to hear what they had to say. ii national press wanted to hear what they had to say-— they had to say. if you look at the similarities _ they had to say. if you look at the similarities between _ they had to say. if you look at the similarities between all— they had to say. if you look at the similarities between all of- they had to say. if you look at the similarities between all of these l similarities between all of these different shows, from all of the years from different shows, from all of the yea r5 from fully different shows, from all of the years from fully booked to live and kicking to swap shop, i think they were really putting the kids first. there is always a place to live shows, there is always a place to feel like you're watching something at the time as everybody else. i think that will never go.- at the time as everybody else. i think that will never go. move on 45 ears and think that will never go. move on as years and children's _ think that will never go. move on as years and children's tv _ think that will never go. move on as years and children's tv run - think that will never go. move on as years and children's tv run seven i years and children's tv run seven days a week, 2a hours a day acro55 days a week, 2a hours a day across more than 20 channels. but you'll still find the presenters doing just what they did a5 year5 still find the presenters doing just what they did a5 years ago. hair raising challenges, cute animal5, raising challenges, cute animals, and a puppet. can you tell me what it is you've brought to children's tv? ~ it is you've brought to children's tv? . , ., it is you've brought to children's tv? well, i brought a small orange/ ellow tv? well, i brought a small orange/ yellow monster, _ tv? well, i brought a small orange/ yellow monster, fun _ tv? well, i brought a small orange/ yellow monster, fun laughs, - yellow monster, fun laughs, ridiculousness and a little bit among predict ability. i do like saturday morning television because it's fun, because you can talk to people. it's fun, because you can talk to --eole. ., , ,, ., , people. hello, people! stanley, i not a people. hello, people! stanley, i got a surprise- — people. hello, people! stanley, i got a surprise. because - people. hello, people! stanley, i got a surprise. because there i people. hello, people! stanley, i got a surprise. because there is i people. hello, people! stanley, i| got a surprise. because there is a bit of a celebrity here. i would like to introduce you to... gordon the gopher. like to introduce you to... gordon the gopher-— like to introduce you to... gordon the goher. ~ ., ., .,, the gopher. wow! gordon did gopher. reall ? the gopher. wow! gordon did gopher. really? how — the gopher. wow! gordon did gopher. really? how much? _ the gopher. wow! gordon did gopher. really? how much? well— the gopher. wow! gordon did gopher. really? how much? well stop - the gopher. wow! gordon did gopher. | really? how much? well stop gordon, 5o, really? how much? well stop gordon, so, obviously you have been on children's tv for many years now. how has it been for you? yeah, well that great! not all of life children's television makes sense. but one thing is for sure. saturday morning tv always seems to end with something like this. thank you! laughter. i wonder how many pie5 have been used over the years. we i wonder how many pies have been used over the years.— i wonder how many pies have been used over the years. we should find that out. i don't _ used over the years. we should find that out. i don't know— used over the years. we should find that out. i 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deliver weather news that is not favourable and i gunged on. if you deliver weather| news that is not favourable and we decide to gunge you. you just never know. decide to gunge you. you 'ust never know. , ., , know. living in the uk they would be a lot of gunge _ know. living in the uk they would be a lot of gunge used. _ know. living in the uk they would be a lot of gunge used. good _ know. living in the uk they would be a lot of gunge used. good morning l know. living in the uk they would be| a lot of gunge used. good morning to you. a lot of gunge used. good morning to you the _ a lot of gunge used. good morning to you. the weekend will be a write-off _ you. the weekend will be a write—off. sunshine at times but they— write—off. sunshine at times but they will— write—off. sunshine at times but they will be some heavy rain at times — strong winds around the coast so they could — strong winds around the coast so they could be travel disruption here and there _ they could be travel disruption here and there and some of that could come _ and there and some of that could come today. showing you the big picture _ come today. showing you the big picture from space, a stream of cloud _ picture from space, a stream of cloud att— picture from space, a stream of cloud all the way across the attantic— cloud all the way across the atlantic linking up. follow one after _ atlantic linking up. follow one after the — atlantic linking up. follow one after the other but this cloud here that is_ after the other but this cloud here that is now— after the other but this cloud here that is nowjust across us which is a developing area of low pressure which _ a developing area of low pressure which today will bring us not only expensive — which today will bring us not only expensive rain but increasingly strong — expensive rain but increasingly strong wind. strongest of the wind to the _ strong wind. strongest of the wind to the south—east of the area of low pressure _ to the south—east of the area of low pressure so — to the south—east of the area of low pressure so where it has come at the moment— pressure so where it has come at the moment it _ pressure so where it has come at the moment it is — pressure so where it has come at the moment it is where it will deteriorate most. already showers out in _ deteriorate most. already showers out in the — deteriorate most. already showers out in the west. more persistent rain starting to push towards devon and cornwall. a little bit on the cool _ and cornwall. a little bit on the cool side — and cornwall. a little bit on the cool side. a little bit of morning brightness. the rain becomes more expensive _ brightness. the rain becomes more expensive in the west pushing north and east _ expensive in the west pushing north and east. northern ireland after the morning _ and east. northern ireland after the morning rain sunshine and showers. the far— morning rain sunshine and showers. the far north — morning rain sunshine and showers. the far north of scotland enjoying the driest, — the far north of scotland enjoying the driest, brightest weather for longest— the driest, brightest weather for longest today. rather cool here at around _ longest today. rather cool here at around 11— longest today. rather cool here at around 11 or 12 degrees. cyclical elsewhere compared what we have had recently _ elsewhere compared what we have had recently because of especially as the wind — recently because of especially as the wind picks up. strongest of the winds— the wind picks up. strongest of the winds towards the english channel and east _ winds towards the english channel and east anglia. 40, 50 or maybe 60 mph towards the corner with france. here again— mph towards the corner with france. here again they could be travel disruption. the rain, more persistent rain, will get away this evening _ persistent rain, will get away this evening and overnight and will linger— evening and overnight and will linger in — evening and overnight and will linger in the far north of scotland which _ linger in the far north of scotland which could cause minor flooding and the winds— which could cause minor flooding and the winds will strengthen here. it will he _ the winds will strengthen here. it will he a — the winds will strengthen here. it will be a fairly cool night, maybe even _ will be a fairly cool night, maybe even a _ will be a fairly cool night, maybe even a touch of frost in sheltered glens _ even a touch of frost in sheltered glens lots — even a touch of frost in sheltered glens lots of showers into the west to start _ glens lots of showers into the west to start tomorrow. this is the chart — to start tomorrow. this is the chart a— to start tomorrow. this is the chart. a slightly quieter day by and large _ chart. a slightly quieter day by and large. overnight rain gets away and this is— large. overnight rain gets away and this is whether strongest of the wind _ this is whether strongest of the wind will— this is whether strongest of the wind will be focused. for most it will he _ wind will be focused. for most it will he a — wind will be focused. for most it will be a day of winds and strengthening through the day, wringing plenty of showers in the west. _ wringing plenty of showers in the west, fewer showers and east, a little _ west, fewer showers and east, a little bit — west, fewer showers and east, a little bit of— west, fewer showers and east, a little bit of sunshine it times and that could — little bit of sunshine it times and that could be good news for those taking _ that could be good news for those taking part in the london marathon. you might— taking part in the london marathon. you might get away dry and temperatures near ideal. that is how it is looking — temperatures near ideal. that is how it is looking-— it is looking. gunge free, matt. this hour... _ is 9:16am. time for this week's click. it's the most personal data that you own. it literally defines you. it is your dna. ever since the human genome was decoded, researchers have been peering deeper into what makes us us, and more and more companies have been able to build services around what they've found so far. here's what lara has to say on the subject. excuse me. it's not disgusting, it's science. mmm — i think it's both, actually. i look forward to finding out what's got lara spitting feathers later. but first... here we go again. ..a story that will make your blood run cold. i'm in iceland, revisiting the freezers at decode genetics in reykjavik, where robots working in temperatures of —26 celsius look after the blood of iceland. over the last quarter of a century icelanders have donated nearly 2 million samples, all in the name of genetic research. if you want to know what —26 celsius feels like, it's very painful on the ears, you really don't feel like breathing very hard at all, and weirdly my nostril hairs are freezing up. every time i do that, they're cracking. iceland has been scrupulously recording ancestry records for hundreds of years, so it kind of makes sense that it's also now at the forefront of research to try and identify the specific genes responsible for particular genetic diseases. and what's amazing is the foresight. they gathered a lot of these blood samples before the science became possible to do the things they're now doing. so by gathering it and keeping it for 20 years they can call back, they can go back to the older blood samples, if they have new research techniques available. by doing this they've been able to identify genetic variations associated with many kinds of cancers, and they're now even able to estimate how long you have left to live based on levels of particular proteins in your blood. the other fun thing about coming out of this temperature into normal temperature is what happens on cold glass. condensation — lots and lots of condensation. and it doesn't stop forming. so that's it — the camera is written off for about an hour now. and a bit later, once we've dried off and warmed up, i am going to blow your mind with a discovery researchers here have made that links your body shape to the way your mind works. if you've got the genes for hypertension, then salt is something you should be careful of. if you've got the genes for type 2 diabetes, saturated fat and sugar are your problem. so what we do is we relate those conditions or those genetic risks to those macronutrients in food. time to hand over my dna, which i've been assured will be destroyed straight after it's been analysed. and we load that into the cartridge, and then we load the cartridge into one of the nudge boxes. it looks like a coffee machine. an hour later, i have my results. it looks like i really shouldn't be having salt or much saturated fat. dangerfrom fat medium, calories medium. these aren't actually the results i expected! obviously you don't have the obesity risk, but saturated fat and salt are indicators much more of cardiovascular, so obviously these are things that you can't see on the surface. my data's then loaded onto a pod that can be worn to help track my exercise and shape my shopping habits. you can scan the foods to see if you can eat them. ok, i shouldn't have that. i can also try it on here, which are also salted peanuts, but it says that it's fine to have. so it's almost double as much salt. i wouldn't have expected that. here you've got the same brand of peanut butter, i would say it's roughly 30—70. dna is around 30, lifestyle is around 70. dnanudge is not the only company in the dna nutrition and fitness space, and many post kits home. neda gharani tried one after reacting to dairy and bread. i am at a slight increased risk for coeliac disease. just that knowledge that there is an increased risk for me really helped me — pushed me to that step of reducing the amount of wheat that i eat. but neda, who's also a research scientist, raised red flags about simplified genetic reports. maybe someone who doesn't really understand genetics may take the results as being — having a greater effect than they actually do. i took the test myself as well, but the diet recommendations contradicted those of dnanudge. so, a little confused, i took a trip to a nutrition genetics lab. what do you keep in the fridge? it's full of saliva. it is full of saliva. dr yiannis mavrommatis specialises in nutrition genomics here, and instead of offering me a coffee, decided to test my genes as to whether i should have one or not. you can deposit your sample and just return it back to me. it takes longer than you would think to fill a container with saliva. the problem is not this part, we can do this part quite well. the challenge is to find an area that is meaningful and we have a lot of science behind it. so there is no consensus as to which dna areas we need to analyse, so company a may have their own genes that they believe are the most important ones and company b may have a different set of genes. even when scientists do agree on genes and their impact, more data is needed for a full picture. genetics can actually be quite meaningful if you combine it with other parameters of the person — their individual dietary inta ke, lifestyle, physical activities, sleep patterns and whatnot. if you just use genetics, it's not going to work. but whilst our dna can't offer every answer, at least dr yiannis later confirmed that i'm free to drink coffee whilst i mull over my need for any diet change — or not. i tell you, she should never have given it up anyway. back at decode genetics in iceland, founder kari stefansson has been looking at a similar and possibly controversial topic — how our genes shape our bodies, our minds and our personalities. i can tell you how we can use genetics to explore, in a way, the nature of man. his most recent scientific paper has been looking at how that relates to one of the developed world's biggest health problems. if there is one condition that predisposes to more diseases than anything else, it is obesity. obesity predisposes to heart failure, to liver diseases, to osteoarthritis, to type 2 diabetes. it predisposes to an incredible number of all cancer diseases. now, some people are genetically predisposed to become obese. their genetic make—up means that they'rejust more likely to overeat. not all of these people do become obese, it's just more likely. and, of the people who don't have those genes, well, some of those will also become obese for other reasons. so decode set about trying to answer the question: which is it that makes these diseases more likely? is it obesity itself, or is it the genetic tendency for obesity? and it turns out that you are not simply cursed by your genes to get ill. and that genetic tendency has no impact on these diseases, so it is purely the obesity itself that predisposes to the disease. and then we asked the question — what is it, then, that this genetic tendency has an impact on? which part of our biology, which part of our being, is being influenced by this genetic score for obesity? and indeed, we showed that the greater your genetic tendency to become obese is, the worse you perform on all kinds of tests of cognitive function. your verbal iq is less, your performance iq is less, your trail—making test is worse, your education is less. obesity itself has no impact on cognitive function, so you don't become stupid by becoming obese. but the genetic aberration that makes you lose control of eating behaviour has an impact on many other functions of your brain. so obesity makes you susceptible to other diseases regardless of your genes, but the gene which makes obesity more likely does affect your intelligence. the researchers then looked at the data from the other direction and asked: does your personality, and specifically your ability to solve problems, tell you anything about how your physical body might develop? and here they found that the better your visual and spatial ability, the more likely you are to have the genetic tendency for obesity — and all those obesity—related diseases. you're also less likely to be curious and creative, but also less likely to suffer from psychiatric conditions like schizophrenia. however, if you score higher on verbal ability, you'll have less risk of obesity and related diseases. you are more likely to be curious and creative, but also you'll have a greater risk of schizophrenia. and what fascinates me about this is that the way in which you are genetically hardwired to solve problems has has an impact on the composition of your body. just give me a minute. i'm working it out for myself at the moment. i hope we all are. i know where i am on that, or at least i think i... oh, my god. wow — amazing the secrets that our bodies can hold. that is it for the short version of the programme. the full—length version is on iplayer. as ever, you can keep up with the team throughout the week on social media. find us on youtube, instagram, facebook and twitter @bbcclick, but for now, thanks forwatching, bye—bye. hello there. good morning. it is 'ust hello there. good morning. it is just after— hello there. good morning. it is just after 6:30 a.m., saturday morning _ just after 6:30 a.m., saturday morning. you are watching breakfast with naga _ morning. you are watching breakfast with naga munchetty a jon kay. mike with naga munchetty ajon kay. mike 'oined us with naga munchetty ajon kay. mike joined us on — with naga munchetty ajon kay. mike joined us on the _ with naga munchetty ajon kay. mike joined us on the sofa _ with naga munchetty a jon kay. m is: joined us on the sofa because we're talking sport. they will be lots of people running today? they will be lots of people running toda ? ., , , today? one of the biggest ever, because you _ today? one of the biggest ever, because you have _ today? one of the biggest ever, because you have 40,000 - today? one of the biggest ever, i because you have 40,000 running today? one of the biggest ever, - because you have 40,000 running on the streets of london for the london marathon but another nearly 40,000 doing virtually, still, even though they can do it again, but they want to be involved around the world stop so today is a day, i remember i did it once... i've done it twice.- it once... i've done it twice. today is the day — it once... i've done it twice. today is the day you _ it once... i've done it twice. today is the day you rest _ it once... i've done it twice. today is the day you rest and _ it once... i've done it twice. today is the day you rest and you - it once... i've done it twice. today is the day you rest and you kind i it once... i've done it twice. today is the day you rest and you kind ofi is the day you rest and you kind of eat... ., . ~' is the day you rest and you kind of eat... ., ., ,, ,., is the day you rest and you kind of eat... ., .,~ i., ,., ,., is the day you rest and you kind of eat... ., ,., 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the atmosphere is — think, right, just enjoy it. because the atmosphere is amazing. - think, right, just enjoy it. because the atmosphere is amazing. most| the atmosphere is amazing. most people, and i totally agree with them, so it is one of the best days of your life because you have that personal story at the heart of why you are running it, you have got a personal goal to aim for, an enormous challenge, preparing almost two years for some people. but at the same time you have got the whole crowd, the crowd watching and also the other runners. and it is magical. you make so many friends. had all of those runners have their own story — had all of those runners have their own story. it�*s had all of those runners have their own sto . �* , . had all of those runners have their ownsto . �*, . , had all of those runners have their own story-— own story. it's what makes it so secial. own story. it's what makes it so special- but _ own story. it's what makes it so special. but haven't _ own story. it's what makes it so special. but haven't you - own story. it's what makes it so special. but haven't you missed i own story. it's what makes it so i special. but haven't you missed it? i know that was the league race last year, but this comment is properly back. tomorrow morning, good luck if you are doing it, 40,000 people will be on the streets of the capital is the london marathon makes its comeback. a return to some normality as i was saying last year's event was limited to the elite runners. thousands were forced to take part virtually because of the pandemic. i have been speaking this week to some of those who have been preparing for the big race. it is finally back the world—famous marathon begets 40,000 people running together, or with individual stories and reasons why they are pounding the streets of london. among the most emotional, claire nash and wayne flanagan, running in memory of their daughterjade, who died injanuary this yearjust ten days after she was born. both claire and wayne had tested positive for covid—19 just days before she suffered unforeseen complications during her birth. i suffered unforeseen complications during her birth.— suffered unforeseen complications during her birth. i remember having laced on during her birth. i remember having placed on my _ during her birth. i remember having placed on my lower— during her birth. i remember having placed on my lower abdomen - during her birth. i remember having placed on my lower abdomen for . during her birth. i remember having | placed on my lower abdomen forjust a few seconds, then they took her away to the bed to start resuscitating her. it is all a bit of a below. ijust remember lots of people coming into the room, lots of words being shouted, and then seeing, like, two fingers pushing up and down on her chest. but at that moment in time i didn't think that she wouldn't survive. i just moment in time i didn't think that she wouldn't survive. ijust had it in my head she was going to be ok, shejust needed a in my head she was going to be ok, she just needed a bit of help. jade was named _ she just needed a bit of help. jade was named after— she just needed a bit of help. jade was named after the midwife who delivered her and helped get her heart beating again, giving mum, dad and brother elijah ten days together. and brother eli'ah ten days togethenh and brother eli'ah ten days touether. , . ., , , together. the most precious ten days of our lives- — together. the most precious ten days of our lives. exactly. _ together. the most precious ten days of our lives. exactly. yeah. _ together. the most precious ten days of our lives. exactly. yeah. we - together. the most precious ten days of our lives. exactly. yeah. we got i of our lives. exactly. yeah. we got to do her footprints _ of our lives. exactly. yeah. we got to do her footprints and _ of our lives. exactly. yeah. we got to do her footprints and then - of our lives. exactly. yeah. we got to do her footprints and then we i to do her footprints and then we sang to her, didn't we? immediately afterjade died. _ sang to her, didn't we? immediately afterjade died. i _ sang to her, didn't we? immediately afterjade died, i started _ sang to her, didn't we? immediately afterjade died, i started running - afterjade died, i started running as a way— afterjade died, i started running as a way to — afterjade died, i started running as a way to start to understand my grief— as a way to start to understand my grief and _ as a way to start to understand my grief and the loss ofjade, and then the emotions, ijust got so overwhelmed quite often, so as i started _ overwhelmed quite often, so as i started running more and more, i 'ust started running more and more, i just realised the benefits for me and my— just realised the benefits for me and my mental health and my well—being, so we are running it to ways— well—being, so we are running it to ways awareness and funds for the people _ ways awareness and funds for the people that cared for us and jade during _ people that cared for us and jade during that time, so the nhs and care workers. during that time, so the nhs and care workers— during that time, so the nhs and care workers. there is going to be lots of tears _ care workers. there is going to be lots of tears and _ care workers. there is going to be lots of tears and lots _ care workers. there is going to be lots of tears and lots of _ care workers. there is going to be lots of tears and lots of smiles. i care workers. there is going to be l lots of tears and lots of smiles. we know we are going to have lots of friends cheering us on, it will be really special to see them, i think the thing that will help push me through is knowing thatjade is there, but hearing everybody shut her name as well, that is going to be really special. this her name as well, that is going to be really special.— be really special. this driving force is the _ be really special. this driving force is the same _ be really special. this driving force is the same for - be really special. this driving force is the same for laura i be really special. this driving - force is the same for laura hughes, his brother colin mcginty was stabbed to death in a random attack in liverpool 20 years ago. his family and friends have waited for 18 months to run the mind and that london marathon to mark what would have been his 40th birthday, and to raise awareness of knife crime. through running they have already raised £20,000 for youth anti— knife crime projects and bleeding control kits which they want installed in more public places. it kits which they want installed in more public places.— kits which they want installed in more public places. it could stop someone from _ more public places. it could stop someone from bleeding - more public places. it could stop someone from bleeding to - more public places. it could stop| someone from bleeding to death. more public places. it could stop - someone from bleeding to death. so what is happening, what has happened, is young people, for example, getting into a fight, somebody stabbed, and they are bleeding to death quicker than an ambulance can get to them. as tragic as this sounds, it is a little bit more bearable for colin's life, he didn't die in vain, he died and we are doing things to potentially save somebody else's life. this is going to be on another level, emotionally tough, but for me, we are running because colin can't, and colin can't, and there are lots of people like colin but can't, and that is going to keep us engaged and get the 26.2 miles done. 50 it going to keep us engaged and get the 26.2 miles done.— 26.2 miles done. so it is going to be one of the _ 26.2 miles done. so it is going to be one of the great _ 26.2 miles done. so it is going to be one of the great days - 26.2 miles done. so it is going to be one of the great days of - 26.2 miles done. so it is going to be one of the great days of your. be one of the great days of your life... there are so many personal, heart—wrenching stories, and now, after this record—breaking amount of time of individual training, of telling those stories alone, at last this week, finally, runners are able to feel the love of the whole running community as they dropped their bags off, get them registered, feeling the crowd's support more than ever before.— feeling the crowd's support more than ever before. being able to run toaether than ever before. being able to run together in — than ever before. being able to run together in a _ than ever before. being able to run together in a safe _ than ever before. being able to run together in a safe way, _ than ever before. being able to run together in a safe way, it _ than ever before. being able to run together in a safe way, it is - together in a safe way, it is outdoors, it is the best place to be, i truly believe this is going to be one of the most emotional and memorable london marathon is in the event that has had some pretty special moments.— event that has had some pretty special moments. last year over 37,000 people _ special moments. last year over 37,000 people did _ special moments. last year over 37,000 people did run _ special moments. last year over 37,000 people did run the - special moments. last year over - 37,000 people did run the marathon virtually on their own, whatever they could, joining in in spirit, via their screens, and even though a similar numberare via their screens, and even though a similar number are signed up to do it again virtually this year, there is nothing like the real thing. last ear i is nothing like the real thing. last eari run is nothing like the real thing. last yearl run on _ is nothing like the real thing. last year i run on my _ is nothing like the real thing. last year i run on my own _ is nothing like the real thing. last year i run on my own in the rain all day and it took 11 hours. this year it will be wonderful to stand out the back, with all these fit people, and to the marathon in my time, which is seven hours, and enjoyed for this lady here, who is my inspiration. she has had ms for years and years and years and i look after her day in and day out and i've got to get her dinner in a minute. , i've got to get her dinner in a minute.- and _ i've got to get her dinner in a minute.- and it - i've got to get her dinner in a minute.- and it is - i've got to get her dinner in a minute. yes! and it is certainly not the same running _ minute. yes! and it is certainly not the same running virtually if you want to stand out from the crowd. and try to break a world record like phil, is the fastest man as a tractor or a heavy duty vehicle. aha, tractor or a heavy duty vehicle. family friend died about five years ago with undiagnosed heart condition and he was really into agriculture and he was really into agriculture and farming and absolutely loved tractors. so i ran three previously, and my wife came up with the idea of doing it in a tractor, so it is my wife's fault, really.— doing it in a tractor, so it is my wife's fault, really. live is aiming to break a _ wife's fault, really. live is aiming to break a marathon _ wife's fault, really. live is aiming to break a marathon record - wife's fault, really. live is aiming i to break a marathon record dressed as a monarch, herfirst to break a marathon record dressed as a monarch, her first two to break a marathon record dressed as a monarch, herfirst two royal suggestions were rejected, but she is allowed to be henry viii, aiming in front of a half hours. i is allowed to be henry viii, aiming in front of a half hours.— in front of a half hours. i managed to net in front of a half hours. i managed to get through _ in front of a half hours. i managed to get through without _ in front of a half hours. i managed to get through without the - in front of a half hours. i managed to get through without the beard l in front of a half hours. i managed i to get through without the beard but to get through without the heard but i had to wear a crown, a spire and a coronation outfit, and provide a picture of a historical reference of when he was actually wearing it to be accurate enough. and, you know, i didn't become another big athlete but maybe i can become a world—famous monarch marathon runner. world-famous monarch marathon runner. �* . ., , world-famous monarch marathon runner. . ., , ., runner. and three flatmates from brixton have _ runner. and three flatmates from brixton have taken _ runner. and three flatmates from brixton have taken their - runner. and three flatmates from brixton have taken their training | runner. and three flatmates from | brixton have taken their training to a new level as they try to break before leggett marathon record in under four hours and 44 minutes, ironically enough. as if the training wasn't hard enough, they have been gaining support for their cause through the social media videos. to cause through the social media videos. ., , ., , ., ., videos. to be honest, we are men are ve few videos. to be honest, we are men are very few discernible _ videos. to be honest, we are men are very few discernible talents, - videos. to be honest, we are men are very few discernible talents, so - videos. to be honest, we are men are very few discernible talents, so as - very few discernible talents, so as a starting point we wanted to raise as much money as possible for our charity, which is meant, so we trawled through the guinness world record options, this is pretty much the only one we thought we had a shot at. also, mike and ander actually have quite a good connection to this, because in 1998 they won three leggett village race and they frankly have not stopped talking about it since. but someone idea of the rhythm _ talking about it since. but someone idea of the rhythm you _ talking about it since. but someone idea of the rhythm you need. - talking about it since. but someone idea of the rhythm you need. it - talking about it since. but someone idea of the rhythm you need. it is i idea of the rhythm you need. it is fine as long as you have the same length of stride. mine might be a bit little to you guys. thankfully, every other runner doesn't need to be physically tied to anyone else to feel the love and support of the thousands running beside them as they make their personaljourneys with their loved ones in their hearts. so many people to look out for tomorrow, because it is on the bbc and you can watch it all live. we will have more buildup on breakfast, we will be live there at the starting line tomorrow morning. watching that, you and i were reminiscing about when we ran it, it isjust reminiscing about when we ran it, it is just fantastic. a reminiscing about when we ran it, it isjust fantastic. a brilliant feeling. i don't envy them, i would never do it again.— feeling. i don't envy them, i would never do it again. maybe you should do it again! — never do it again. maybe you should do it again! they — never do it again. maybe you should do it again! they are _ never do it again. maybe you should do it again! they are now _ never do it again. maybe you should do it again! they are now because i do it again! they are now because the have do it again! they are now because they have done _ do it again! they are now because they have done all _ do it again! they are now because they have done all the _ do it again! they are now because they have done all the training, i they have done all the training, hopefully, so they are just going to enjoy it now. i hopefully, so they are 'ust going to enjoy it now.— enjoy it now. i am be of fact they are aooin enjoy it now. i am be of fact they are going to _ enjoy it now. i am be of fact they are going to have _ enjoy it now. i am be of fact they are going to have this _ enjoy it now. i am be of fact they are going to have this brilliant i are going to have this brilliant atmosphere. that is something to treasure. it atmosphere. that is something to treasure. , ., , , atmosphere. that is something to treasure-_ we - atmosphere. that is something to | treasure._ we will treasure. it is, absolutely. we will aet more treasure. it is, absolutely. we will get more on _ treasure. it is, absolutely. we will get more on that _ treasure. it is, absolutely. we will get more on that later _ treasure. it is, absolutely. we will get more on that later when i treasure. it is, absolutely. we will get more on that later when we i treasure. it is, absolutely. we will- get more on that later when we speak to paula radcliffe.— to paula radcliffe. well, let's get the rest of _ to paula radcliffe. well, let's get the rest of the _ to paula radcliffe. well, let's get the rest of the sports _ to paula radcliffe. well, let's get the rest of the sports news i to paula radcliffe. well, let's get the rest of the sports news now. | to paula radcliffe. well, let's get. the rest of the sports news now. it is three super lee grant finals in a row for st helens after they thrash leeds rhinos by 36—8. saints winner megan grace was the start of the show, scoring two of their sex tries. they have on the trading of the past two years and they will play the french side, catalan dragons, at old trafford next saturday. the dragons in their first final, while saints try to equal leeds' record of eight victories in all, the most grand final history. to win one competition is extremely hard. you gotta sacrifice so much, you've got put so much effort into it. to going to go and winter is incredibly hard. we got a big task ahead of us to entry, but we give ourselves a chance and we play like that again, we're going to give ourselves a chance next week or so. now, in rugby union, bristol have theirfirst win of now, in rugby union, bristol have their first win of the new premiership season, all the more special because they beat the neighbours, bath, 25—28 ashton gate. apart from the dominant side to most of this game, they led by nine points in the second half but then a combination of current sheedy�*s kicking and try from jake kerr enabled bristol to snatch the much—needed victory. now, a diplomatic row has broken out after rangers midfielder glenn kamara was subject to bullying and during bias sparta prague fans in the europa league game on thursday. we were talking about it yesterday on breakfast. the czech foreign minister has now the british ambassadorfor talks. minister has now the british ambassadorfortalks. rangers minister has now the british ambassadorfor talks. rangers have ambassador for talks. rangers have contacted ambassadorfor talks. rangers have contacted uefa over his treatment, which came just months after he was racially abused by a slavia private player. 10,000 schoolchildren were out this week's game, with chaperones. the scottish players union described his treatment is sickening abuse, but sparta prague called for xenophobic attacks on the children to stop. manchester versus liverpool this weekend and the premier league, this lunchtime manchester united host everton, and the winner of that one can go top of the table, temporarily at least. tomorrow the winners of the last four premier league titles are in action at anfield, although still early in the season, of course. liverpool, against manchester city, feels like a blockbuster. speaking of which, could jurgen klopp demand to replace daniel as james bond? i would be a really bad james bond. if i walk out of the water and swim shorts, i think that would be the moment when the whole world would switch off. so... but no problem, we all have ourjobs to do and he has to save the world and i have to play football from time to time. he would be pretty good, though, wouldn't it? a twist in the championship plot, leaders west from have suffered their first league defeat of the season away to stoke city last night. —— west from. nick powell scored the only goal of the game with a brilliant finish just 11 minutes from time. so can third in the table, just one point behind west bromwich and bournemouth. that is your sport, and i want to say happy matt taylor day.- is your sport, and i want to say. happy matt taylor day.- it is your sport, and i want to say i happy matt taylor day.- it is happy matt taylor day. what? it is matt taylor _ happy matt taylor day. what? it is matt taylor day. — happy matt taylor day. what? it is matt taylor day, didn't _ happy matt taylor day. what? it is matt taylor day, didn't you - happy matt taylor day. “lariat? it is matt taylor day, didn't you know? in league one, in the football league, exeter versus walsall play each other today, exeter versus walsall play each othertoday, both exeter versus walsall play each other today, both are managed by matt taylors. other today, both are managed by matt taylors— other today, both are managed by matt taylors.- and - other today, both are managed by matt taylors.- and in i other today, both are 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is matt taylor. they are taking over the world, i tell you. haste name is matt taylor. they are taking over the world, i tell you.— over the world, i tell you. have you not a over the world, i tell you. have you got a them — over the world, i tell you. have you got a them saying _ over the world, i tell you. have you got a them saying that? _ over the world, i tell you. have you got a them saying that? well, i over the world, i tell you. have you got a them saying that? well, it i over the world, i tell you. have you got a them saying that? well, it is| got a them saying that? well, it is on the website. _ got a them saying that? well, it is on the website. can _ got a them saying that? well, it is on the website. can we _ got a them saying that? well, it is on the website. can we see i got a them saying that? well, it is on the website. can we see it i got a them saying that? well, it is i on the website. can we see it later? the next james _ on the website. can we see it later? the next james bond, _ on the website. can we see it later? the next james bond, matt - on the website. can we see it later? the next james bond, matt taylor? | the nextjames bond, matt taylor? the nextjames bond, matt taylor? the answer to any problem, matt taylor~ _ we are here for you, national matt taylor, second october every year. is that why you have the football net? it is that why you have the football net? , ., . ., , , net? it is, well, of course, it is the bi net? it is, well, of course, it is the his hot _ net? it is, well, of course, it is the big hot ticket _ net? it is, well, of course, it is the big hot ticket on _ net? it is, well, of course, it is the big hot ticket on the i net? it is, well, of course, it is the big hot ticket on the day, l net? it is, well, of course, it is. the big hot ticket on the day, isn't it? so ijust thought... the big hot ticket on the day, isn't it? so ijust thought. . .— the big hot ticket on the day, isn't it? so ijust thought... what, matt ta lor? it? so ijust thought... what, matt taylor? yes. _ it? so ijust thought... what, matt taylor? yes, the _ it? so ijust thought... what, matt taylor? yes, the bustle _ it? so ijust thought... what, matt taylor? yes, the bustle of - it? so ijust thought... what, matt taylor? yes, the bustle of the i it? so | just thought... what, matt. taylor? yes, the bustle of the matts takino taylor? yes, the bustle of the matts taking place — taylor? yes, the bustle of the matts taking place at _ taylor? yes, the bustle of the matts taking place at exeter. _ taking place at exeter. unfortunately the weather is not looking great, hopefully much is much better because it is going to be pretty soggy out there. this matt taylor has failed in his duties to keep the other matt taylors drive. how many times are you going to say matt taylor? how many times you think we have set in the last two minutes? ., ., . ., , minutes? not enough. what is the weather like. _ minutes? not enough. what is the weather like, matt _ minutes? not enough. what is the weather like, matt taylor? - minutes? not enough. what is the weather like, matt taylor? we i minutes? not enough. what is the i weather like, matt taylor? we should call him matt of the day. anyway, matt taylor day. very good morning _ anyway, matt taylor day. very good morning to — anyway, matt taylor day. very good morning to you. we will keep going, we will— morning to you. we will keep going, we will keep going. not great for the weather in exeter. be prepared for strong winds to develop — be prepared for strong winds to develop towards the south—east. tomorrow— develop towards the south—east. tomorrow dry and bright for most and in the _ tomorrow dry and bright for most and in the far— tomorrow dry and bright for most and in the far north of scotland particularly around shetland we will see particularly damaging gusts of wind _ see particularly damaging gusts of wind. showing you what happening out there from _ wind. showing you what happening out there from space. the swell of air is hurricane — there from space. the swell of air is hurricane sam from south of bermuda _ is hurricane sam from south of bermuda. thousands of miles away but notice _ bermuda. thousands of miles away but notice how _ bermuda. thousands of miles away but notice how the cloud streams from that into _ notice how the cloud streams from that into the cloud that is now sitting — that into the cloud that is now sitting across the uk stopped two weather— sitting across the uk stopped two weather systems almost coming into play here _ weather systems almost coming into play here tojoin up to weather systems almost coming into play here to join up to produce lots of rain _ play here to join up to produce lots of rain around. strongest of the winds— of rain around. strongest of the winds on— of rain around. strongest of the winds on the western edge, eastern edge, _ winds on the western edge, eastern edge, sorry, — winds on the western edge, eastern edge, sorry, of the area of low pressure — edge, sorry, of the area of low pressure just towards this area where — pressure just towards this area where we _ pressure just towards this area where we are dried the moment. some heavy, _ where we are dried the moment. some heavy, thundery downpours for one or two but _ heavy, thundery downpours for one or two but more — heavy, thundery downpours for one or two but more persistent rain is now edging _ two but more persistent rain is now edging into— two but more persistent rain is now edging into the western english channel— edging into the western english channel towards devon and cornwall. that is _ channel towards devon and cornwall. that is pushing north and east through— that is pushing north and east through the day so are dry and bright — through the day so are dry and bright start for a good part of eastern — bright start for a good part of eastern england. a little on the cool side — eastern england. a little on the cool side. the afternoon will cloud over with — cool side. the afternoon will cloud over with outbreaks of rain. sunshine _ over with outbreaks of rain. sunshine and showers into the afternoon _ sunshine and showers into the afternoon with the driest of all for the far— afternoon with the driest of all for the far north of scotland where we will see _ the far north of scotland where we will see sunny spells continue. just one or— will see sunny spells continue. just one or two — will see sunny spells continue. just one or two showers. cool day, 11—16. strongest _ one or two showers. cool day, 11—16. strongest of — one or two showers. cool day, 11—16. strongest of the winds, as i mentioned, to the south—east corner, up mentioned, to the south—east corner, up towards _ mentioned, to the south—east corner, up towards east anglia. gusts of wind _ up towards east anglia. gusts of wind 45—60 miles an hour. that will have _ wind 45—60 miles an hour. that will have an _ wind 45—60 miles an hour. that will have an impact on bridges and ferry services _ have an impact on bridges and ferry services. lots of rain, too, to end the day— services. lots of rain, too, to end the day was — services. lots of rain, too, to end the day was not eastern half of the uk. particularly wet, the risk of flooding — uk. particularly wet, the risk of flooding around marray. clear skies, a few _ flooding around marray. clear skies, a few showers into tomorrow morning. temperature _ a few showers into tomorrow morning. temperature is are on the cool side to start _ temperature is are on the cool side to start tomorrow but tomorrow, deep area of— to start tomorrow but tomorrow, deep area of low— to start tomorrow but tomorrow, deep area of low pressure towards the north _ area of low pressure towards the north of— area of low pressure towards the north of scotland where we could see 60-70 _ north of scotland where we could see 60-70 mph _ north of scotland where we could see 60—70 mph gusts. elsewhere for the london _ 60—70 mph gusts. elsewhere for the london marathon, sunshine, if you showers _ london marathon, sunshine, if you showers withjoe is most likely in well fast~ — showers withjoe is most likely in well fast. london marathon should stay dry _ well fast. london marathon should stay dry -- — well fast. london marathon should stay dry. —— —— showers most likely in belfast — matt taylor day. it will be in my life for the _ so so much, matt, see you later. 6:47am. looking at the papers. the times to start with. the prime minister spoke in the wake of the sentencing of sarah everard's killer. and said that there is an issue with the way police treat allegations from women, saying that complaints are still not been taken seriously i forces. the complaints are still not been taken seriously i forces.— seriously i forces. the daily mail focuses on _ seriously i forces. the daily mail focuses on the _ seriously i forces. the daily mail focuses on the issue _ seriously i 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articles on the bbc news - players. one of the most read i articles on the bbc news website players. one of the most read - articles on the bbc news website is this story. what you are seeing is a tanker and what has happened is this tanker, the driver of this tanker from northamptonshire was followed for miles. by around 20 motorists who thought he was transporting fuel. instead, when he did actually stop, they discovered he was actually delivering 44 tons of cement. actually delivering lulu tons of cement. ., , m actually delivering lulu tons of cement. ., , h, ., actually delivering lulu tons of cement. ., , ., cement. people said what petrol station are _ cement. people said what petrol station are you _ cement. people said what petrol station are you going _ cement. people said what petrol station are you going to? - cement. people said what petrol station are you going to? i - cement. people said what petrol station are you going to? i said i cement. people said what petrol i 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this week, are there? yes, quite a big week. we have no time to die, james bond is back, finally. we have next door which is a satirical psychodrama. and we have redemption of a rogue which is a dark musical comedy. i almost feel nervous for the producers of bond. there feels like there is so much riding on this for british cinema. it's been such a long wait for that 18 months. until the first thing to say is i know you haven't seen it yet and many people are seeing it this weekend. let's not discuss plot at all, 0k? let's just say that after having been delayed for so long obviously people have got huge expectations. and i actually thought it was pretty good and better than i expected. it has seriousness of on her majesty's secret service, it has the grittiness of what we've come to know is daniel craig back to casino royale. but it also has the globetrotting scenery, it has the action set pieces and it has gadgets. which includes shower is the blow agent. here's a clip. ——new 00 agent. your watch. it contains a limited radius, electromagnetic pulse. it will short any circuits in a hard—wired if you get closer. and how strong is it? it's fairly strong. fairly strong? just be careful. ok this is queued up. it will map the space as you move through it. don't touch that. and smart blood, it will track you and your vitals. bond, you don't mind a shot or two whilst at work? shall we? well i haven't had a drink for 3 or 4, ouch, hours. wow, doesn't sound like you. i'm glad it's making me laugh. i love that role, i love the gadget so far all good. he's made that roll his own. ease done a really brilliant job of that. so it has the jokes. it has the action set pieces, it has lea seydou who's absolutely terrific. more importantly it has consequences. i've always said that the characters are only is interesting is what they have to lose. if a character has nothing to lose they have no drama. i think what this does a very good job of balancing stuff that with you want with bond movies. the set pieces, the action set pieces, the scenery — all that stuff. but also with a genuine sense of personaljeopardy that is the heart of all really good dramas. yes, there are nods to doctor no in you only live twice. you hear a few that has you back to her majesty's secret service very early on. and what you get is the sense that it's notjust surface, there's something more important happening underneath. obviously part of me is watching wondering what would danny boyle have done? this is very solidly directed, the action set pieces very well done. the script went through a number of rewrites, phoebe walbridge famously came and a polish on it. there are times that the script feels a little bit like a lot of different voices talking in the same room. but, that said, the underlying dna of the film is strangely coherent. and actually, since i saw it, and we start last night, i thought about it more and more and i thought about the way in which the plot very cleverly plays with the idea of family whether it's personal or political, whether it's criminal and really intertwines that into the dna of the plot. i'd also like to say, daniel craig is my favourite bond. 0h, is he? he is. but it's important to acknowledge that he comes from a lineage that goes from george lazenby to timothy dalton. and dalton is the great underrated bond. and i think he picked up that, the kind of — the mantle from him. i was really very impressed. and i are gone and thinking after all this time, it's good to be ok. much better than 0k. i have heard it's a that it helps if you'd seen spector to get the plot. obviously without giving any plot spoilers. do you think you need to have seen spectre or does it stand alone in terms of understanding was going on? having not seen any bond films was live and let die with roger moore. i did understand what was going on but there was a bunch of stuff that was exciting. on any level... who in the world hasn't seen spectre? have you seen spectre? yes, but recently re—watched. it helps. but i think it makes sense in and of itself. not all the daniel craigs were great, question of sport was a bit all over the place i do think this is a really film. what was that? 0k, well, we're all going to see this weekend and have fun and that's lovely. how lovely to get back in cinemas with a big action film, that's fantastic. our second choice... there are other movies as well. so stage e tragicomedy he plays, kind of himself. he's on the way to an audition for, he goes into a bar is way late that initially seems like a fan and starts criticising his role, "i saw those films you made, all the builds he made. his character keeps trying to leave but every time he tries to leave the barfly kind of tells him another detail about his life that you suddenly realise that he knows everything about this actors life. in the film is about a number of thing and number one it's a satire on celebrity, the way in which actors behave like they know everything but they don't. 0n the other hand it's about political satire about reunification and gentrification. it's a cat and mouse psychodrama, it's a bit stage you can imagine just the two characters you're snoring at each other every time he leave he asked to come back in again. i kind of enjoyed it. there's even a tinge of horror to it. it sounds creepy. it is creepy but in a good creepy way. and again, at the beginning i thought, 0k fine, i can see with this is going. 20 minutes and i didn't mind. i thought this is fine because it's got a creepy, slightly nasty seedy edge, that i like. interesting i like daniel braude, his interest in. redemption of a rogue? a document comedy with the biblical twist was up a red to return to his home town where everyone hates them. including his father who promptly dies, then it starts raining and his father's will says he cannot be buried unless it stops raining. but everyone in the town starts to think it's got not going to stop raining until he is buried. here's a clip. no. how much do you want to cover the cost of the funeral? you think this act of god is caused by my father? oh, yes. which would mean my father is god. i didn't say that now. which would make me the son of god. go on out of that. if i am the sun of god then i am the lord. here on earth. to deliver god's judgment. judgment? did you ever think this plague might be god's judgment on you? you were really enjoying the clip! although i was thinking, what's going on? dark musical comedy. there are lovely visual nods to clockwork orange on one hand and a one point the seven seal. there is a lot of music played in the film. so you see bands playing in the window. it goes into a bar and there is a lot of music played in the film. so you see bands playing in the window. it goes into a bar and there's a bluesy band playing with a a chilly comes not because very important to them. there's a busker who is almost acting as a greek chorus was up the music is by robbie perry and does a brilliantjob of commenting on the action while the action is playing out. i love it when the music becomes an integral part of the drama. the whole thing is a sort of satirical, spiritual odyssey with a very, very dark sense of humour. but it manages to be both, and this is a difficult trick, it manages to be both tongue—in—cheek and hand on heart at the same time. and i think that is to be applauded. that's going on the poster. best out this week, mark? the green night. it looks stunning. it's not my genre but it looks extraordinary to look at for the i'm not great with fantasy but it's beautiful to look at. visually, it's extraordinary. so far it's one of my films of the year. david larry's done such a printjob you can see it on streaming but if you get a chance even the cinema. it comes alive on the big screen, is made to be seen on the big screen he is fabulous and a brilliant telling of a classic tale. i've seen it three times now and every time it's taken my breath away. it is remarkable, it is remarkable. dvds and streaming, anyone who wants to stay home. dvds are still around, amazingly! another round which is this fantastic film that i think a career—best role my nicholson as a teacher who begins with some of his friends and experiment on drinking at work to see whether it improves their performance at work. so it's a comedic idea but is also, a tragicomedy. there's an awful lot of tragedy and heartbreak in this film. it was a big awards winner and understandably so. just watching mads mikkelsen at the height of his power... it's just magic we talk about green night which is magic. this is real magic watching them perform at that calibrejust firing on all cylinders. i love another round, it's funny him some places, heartbreaking and someplace ago but not places, heartbreak was up to see it on dvd because it is great. fantastic, thanks, mark. great to see you and great to think about being back in cinemas. enjoy bond! i can't wait. i have my tickets. enjoy your cinema going wherever you may choose to watch this weekend. see you next week, bye—bye. good morning, welcome to breakfast with jon kay and good morning, welcome to breakfast withjon kay and naga munchetty. our headlines today: after the murder of sarah everard, the prime minister promises reform of the criminal justice system, which he describes as a nightmare for women. the roblem as a nightmare for women. the problem is _ as a nightmare for women. the problem is we _ as a nightmare for women. inez problem is we have as a nightmare for women. iie: problem is we have too as a nightmare for women. i“i9 problem is we have too few prosecutions for rape and too few successful prosecutions, too few convictions. successful prosecutions, too few convictions-— convictions. the army will begin deliverina convictions. the army will begin delivering fuel _ convictions. the army will begin delivering fuel to _ convictions. the army will begin delivering fuel to petrol - convictions. the army will begin | delivering fuel to petrol stations across the uk from monday after days of queueing at the pumps. goad of queueing at the pumps. good morninu. of queueing at the pumps. good morning. saints _ of queueing at the pumps. good morning. saints and _ of queueing at the pumps. good morning. saints and the - of queueing at the pumps. 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more sunshinel they will be a bit more sunshine around tomorrow, today, plenty of cloud, outbreaks of rain, the heaviest of it in the south and east which will also see the strongest of the winds. i will have the details here on breakfast. hello, saturday the second of october. the prime minister has promised reform of the criminal justice system following the murder of sarah everard by a serving police officer. borisjohnson urged the public to trust the police, but admitted it is infuriating that cases of violence against women and girls are not being taken seriously enough. he also said the government needs to come down very hard on problems in the metropolitan police. simonjones has more. the death of sarah everard prompted an outpouring of public grief. now the government says it has determined that is determined her murder will bring about permanent change in how society deals with violence against women and girls. the prime minister says there are too few prosecutions and convictions for sexual violence. the time from report to referral, from referral to the court proceedings, from the court proceedings to the conclusion, all three of those segments, is far too long, and what you're seeing is the whole system snarled up with evidential problems, with data issues, mobile phones disclosure, all that kind of stuff, and it's a nightmare for the women concerned. wayne couzens kidnapped, raped and murdered sarah everard. he then dumped her body in woodland and kent. cars registered to him had previously been linked to two allegations of indecent exposure, but he wasn't identified as a potential sex offender. it is claimed he also used a whatsapp group to swap misogynistic messages with officers from the metropolitan police, the civil nuclear constabulary and the norfolk constabulary. we've also got to address the issues going on within the police force, and you will have seen the stuff about the officers on a whatsapp group, you've got to come down very hard on that. the home secretary says the police must raise the bar by taking harassment and flashing more seriously. priti patel told the telegraph they should not be considered low—level crimes. the met says it's putting more officers in places where people feel unsafe. we're absolutely committed to tackling violence against women and girls, and that is going to be one of our highest — it is one of our highest priorities. so you will see us out on patrol in hotspots. but there are calls for more scrutiny of the police themselves. how many times have we heard, lessons will be learned? and how often, really, are they? i think there are some things that need to be done far more publicly and one of those is a public enquiry along the lines of the macpherson enquiry into the murder of stephen lawrence. that was a seismic change for policing in relation to racism. we need that around misogyny. opposition politicians accuse the government of starving the police and courts of resources, but there is a growing consensus that the death of sarah everard must act as a watershed moment. simon jones, bbc news. the army will begin delivering fuel to forecourts from monday to try to ease the pressure at the petrol stations. ministers are also allowing up to 300 of the 5000 hgv drivers being recruited from abroad to come to the uk immediately. the governments as the rest will arrive later this month, as a political correspondent peter saul reports. we started to see scenes like this in parts of the uk last weekend. frustrated drivers desperately trying to fill up, and now, the government is calling in the military. some service personnel will be a providing support today, and from monday, soldiers will be driving petrol tankers themselves. so why has it taken so long? well, first of all, you're asking military personnel who are trained to drive tankers cross—country to take tankers full of highly inflammable liquids into built—up areas, onto forecourts where you and i fill up our cars. and it has to be the case that we make sure they get the appropriate training to do so. you know, i think we would all expect that to be the right thing. and at the same time we need to work with industry so that we know where we're sending them. we can'tjust send them to random garages, it has to be properly deployed. as well as the support from the armed forces, more drivers will be allowed into the uk from overseas. a new scheme will enable up to 300 tanker drivers to come and work here immediately. haulage firms will find potential recruits and apply to the government for licenses. up to ii,700 lorry drivers specialising in food delivery will start to arrive from the end of this month. this temporary visa scheme has been extended until the end of february. and 5,500 poultry workers will be granted the right to work here too, until the end of the year. ministers hope these measures, along with efforts to recruit more british staff, will address some of the problems in the supply chain. but there could still be a tough winter ahead. peter saull, bbc news. we can speak now to a political correspondent naomi wells, who joins us now from the london newsroom. all this happening is the conservatives gatherfor this happening is the conservatives gather for their party conference in the next couple of days?— the next couple of days? that's riaht, the next couple of days? that's right. jon. _ the next couple of days? that's right. jon. and _ the next couple of days? that's right, jon, and this _ the next couple of days? that's right, jon, and this is _ the next couple of days? that's right, jon, and this is certainly | the next couple of days? that's l right, jon, and this is certainly an issue that has been looming over the start of the conservative party conference. we have heard from that report that ministers are still insisting the situation is improving. they are insisting, still, that people should be panic buying, and that is worsening the situation. but having previously said they wouldn't be needed, we do now know the military are going to be starting to drive fuel tankers from monday, with some already starting today to help with things like logistical support as well. and this is going to be really interesting topic going into the party not least because as we heard there in pete's report, as well as there in pete's report, as well as the 200 military personnel being brought in, we also note 300 fuel tanker drivers from overseas are also going to be able to start working in the uk until march, and that these scheme that was last week as well for sort of a700 other hgv drivers to help with things like food shortages, also now are not only going to be able to work until christmas eve, as was the —— as was announced last week, now that scheme will be extended until the end of february. so i think while ministers have previously insisted to be military was not needed, previously assisted these visa schemes when needed, and then last week said this visa scheme would be announced but only until christmas eve, the fact that all these things have changed very rapidly shows that the situation is changing incredibly quickly but also that ministers are acknowledging that some of these issues with shortages could still be an issue for some time to come still. :, :, ~ , :, , : still. ok, ione, thank you very much indeed. vaccine _ still. ok, ione, thank you very much indeed. vaccine passports— still. ok, ione, thank you very much indeed. vaccine passports came - still. ok, ione, thank you very muchj indeed. vaccine passports came into effect for the first time in scotland last night. people need proof of vaccination to gain entry to nightclubs or large events. the scheme will be mandatory on the 18th of october. ajudge rejected a challenge to the rollout by the nightclub industry, the launch of the app has been hit by technical problems. we the app has been hit by technical roblems. ~ :, :, , ., the app has been hit by technical roblems. ~ :, :, , :, :, problems. we have ultimately made a decision a society _ problems. we have ultimately made a decision a society to _ problems. we have ultimately made a decision a society to respect _ problems. we have ultimately made a decision a society to respect people i decision a society to respect people who don't want to get vaccinated. that's why it is a little bit disappointing, even though i myself am double vaccinated, but there isn't an option for people who don't want to get vaccinated, we are not sort of respecting their opinions by being able to submit a negative lateral fluent and still be able to go to a nightclub, saying effectively, don't come. than effectively, don't come. an exoeriment _ effectively, don't come. an experiment or drug used to treat severe cases of coded cuts the risk of hospitalisation or death by about half. that is what clinical trials results from the us suggests, and if it is approved, the pill, which is cold montpelier will be the first oral antiviral medication for covid—i9. medical advisors in the us said the results were very good news but they are urging caution until all the data has been reviewed. —— molnupiravir. the rollout for third doses of people with severe diseases has gone badly wrong according to my charities, would say that many people are still struggling to access their third jab a month after it was recommended by the vaccine experts, thejci. nhs england says that eligible patients should be offered the injection by the end of next week. steve harrison is one among those still waiting. ijust think it has been pretty terrible all the way through, really, with the communication, right from the very beginning. it has made a lot of patients quite anxious and angry, because without this, we are kind of almost shielding again. the queen is due to address msps at holyrood to mark the opening of the succession of parliament. the ceremony would normally take place but was postponed because of great advice. this will be the s&p's consecutive term in government following their victory in may. —— snp's. the volcano that has been erupting for the past 11 days on the spanish island of la palma is spewing out two new streams of lava, threatening even more destruction. many homes and crops have been destroyed and thousands of people have been forced to evacuate since the eruption began last month, and as danjohnson reports, there is no sign of attending. this volcano is still really active, and there is fresh lava flowing from the events that have opened up, and that means other homes, other villages, are potentially at risk. more than 6000 people now have been evacuated and are staying with friends and family, or in emergency shelters, and we saw people today making the decision now that it is time for them to leave, to get to somewhere safe, because they have lived with this for over 11 days now, and some people are fed up. they have had enough and they want to get to a safe place. more than a thousand properties have been destroyed and this is having a really big impact, notjust on daily life here, but on people's livelihoods. i was talking to a fisherman in the harbour who cannot grant to see because there is such a big exclusion zone around the area where the mother is pouring off the land into the water and setting hard, it is actually creating new land, the palm is growing, but it is such a destructive process. the fisherman thought he may not have a future hearing that industry. he may leave la and potentially never return. so even before it has ended, the impacts of this eruption are wide—ranging and long lasting, and what nobody knows is just how long it is going to go on. so for now, the volcano keeps erupting, the lava keeps flowing, and it is unpredictable, where is it going to 90, unpredictable, where is it going to go, and how much more damage will it do? danjohnson, bbc news, on the plumber. those pictures still staggering even a month later. it is those pictures still staggering even a month later-— a month later. it is unbelievable, that is nature, _ a month later. it is unbelievable, that is nature, the _ a month later. it is unbelievable, that is nature, the force - a month later. it is unbelievable, that is nature, the force of- a month later. it is unbelievable, | that is nature, the force of nature that is nature, the force of nature that you can't touch. you just have to let it run its course. something else to talk to you about, number 30 might seem pretty innocuous, but when it is projected onto the side of buildings around the world, perhaps it takes on a new meaning. yes, people are speculating, and online, adele found seem to think it is a hint that her new album could be due. remember her last album was called 25, and now 30 has been spotted on landmarks, including the louvre in paris, the empire state building in new york, the acropolis, the brandenburg gate, everywhere. could it be that adele's latest album is 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if it is not her album we're all going - understand it. if it is not her album we're all going to - understand it. if it is not her| album we're all going to look understand it. if it is not her- album we're all going to look rather stupid, aren't speak for yourself. you can speak for that as well. morning! i hope somebody does that for my 30th birthday. i hope somebody does that for my 30th birthday-— 30th birthday. well, you have already got — 30th birthday. well, you have already got matt _ 30th birthday. well, you have already got matt taylor - 30th birthday. well, you have already got matt taylor day. l 30th birthday. well, you have l already got matt taylor day. we completely ignored but because they're only so many ridiculous things we acknowledge on this programme. it is matt taylor day, isn't it? it programme. it is matt taylor day, isn't it? , , :, isn't it? it is, it is matt taylor da . isn't it? it is, it is matt taylor day- very _ isn't it? it is, it is matt taylor day- very good _ isn't it? it is, it is matt taylor day. very good morning - isn't it? it is, it is matt taylor day. very good morning to i isn't it? it is, it is matt taylor. day. very good morning to you. isn't it? it is, it is matt taylor- day. very good morning to you. yes, a big match down in exeter between the two matt taylor managers later. they will have rain. but this morning, not a they will have rain. but this morning, nota bad they will have rain. but this morning, not a bad start if you are waking up in north—eastern areas. looking fairly bright, looking fairly promising in north yorkshire. i wish i could say it will last. for most of you it is going to turn out to be quite a soggy saturday for some already, and an increasingly windy one across the eastern half of the country, gales in the south—east of england, but tomorrow, many of you, a good deal brighter with a mixture of sunshine and showers, but at this stage shetland will see the strongest of the wind. that is all linked to a daisy chain of low pressure systems, areas of cloud which stretch across the atlantic. that is tomorrow, this is today. lots of cloud on this, outbreaks of rain, this area of low pressure is developing and will continue to developing and will continue to develop across the next 2a hours on the eastern edge of it when the strongest of the windows, parts of east anglia and the south—east where it is going right at the moment. here is where the rain is. especially across the western half of england, wales, another batch pushing into northern ireland as well. that is all pushing its way slowly north and east, so aggressively turning wetter in the south and west. a dry and bright start to the north—east, fairly cool start to the north—east, fairly cool, temperatures down four or five degrees for one or two, certainly across england and wales you will escape the rain as we go into the afternoon. happy in some places, turning that through central and southern scotland, right of northern ireland and always that it brighter for the finals of scotland, one of the driest places today. a cool day, 11- 60 the driest places today. a cool day, 11— 60 degrees, coolerfor the ii— 60 degrees, coolerfor the strength of the wind. across eastern areas it will be stronger through the afternoon and it is through the eastern portion of the english channel to east anglia where we will see gwynn's gusting 45—60 miles an hour. that will have some travel impacts. lots of rain across central and eastern parts of the uk as we go into the evening. it will be wet in north—eastern scotland, could be some flooding around murray, but we will see some stronger winds developing, still blustery in the west with a scattering of showers and eastern areas dry and clear and and eastern areas dry and clear and a cool night to take us into sunday. a fresh start to sunday, deep area of low pressure centred around shetland, to the south of its we are bringing in our winds from a west end north—westerly direction through the day. light winds, sunny skies and eastern areas, blustery in the west, sunshine and showers, showers driven eastwards as we go through the day. longer spells of rain in western scotland, temperatures tomorrow around 11— i6 western scotland, temperatures tomorrow around 11— 16 degrees, so another cool day, but of course the london marathon tomorrow, as it is the belfast marathon. if you are heading off to london, almost perfect conditions, the small charles michel late in the day as the breeze picks up, most of the time it will be dry and greater chance of those taking part in the belfast marathon. you never tire of seeing that route. it tires me outjust looking at it. you both are the next ones. the time has one, you both are the next ones. the time has gone. need _ you both are the next ones. the time has gone. need to — you both are the next ones. the time has gone, need to move _ you both are the next ones. the time has gone, need to move on. - you both are the next ones. the time has gone, need to move on. now - you both are the next ones. the time i has gone, need to move on. now there is no time to — has gone, need to move on. now there is no time to chat _ has gone, need to move on. now there is no time to chat format. _ has gone, need to move on. now there is no time to chat format. many - is no time to chat format. many covid patients _ is no time to chat format. many covid patients are _ is no time to chat format. many covid patients are now- is no time to chat format. many| covid patients are now spending is no time to chat format. ij�*isg“i;r covid patients are now spending much less time shorter periods of time in hospital than they were a year ago. but, there are still more than 80 people in intensive care across scotland. bi people in intensive care across scotland. : : , people in intensive care across scotland. : ~ , scotland. at the aberdeen royal infirmary doctors _ scotland. at the aberdeen royal infirmary doctors say _ scotland. at the aberdeen royal infirmary doctors say they - scotland. at the aberdeen royal infirmary doctors say they are i infirmary doctors say they are overwhelmed with by the number of young and unvaccinated patients. our health correspondent lisa summers has been taking a look. the people that do come into hospital they think they will be on the ward for a couple of days and then i think that is tough for patients. then i think that is tough for atients. : :, :, :, , patients. arriving through the doors of icu can be _ patients. arriving through the doors of icu can be frightening. _ patients. arriving through the doors of icu can be frightening. we - patients. arriving through the doors of icu can be frightening. we will. of icu can be frightening. we will see some of _ of icu can be frightening. we will see some of these _ of icu can be frightening. we will see some of these really - of icu can be frightening. we will see some of these really unwelll see some of these really unwell patients and it must be terrifying to be in that situation. to see, i guess, what is coming for them, unfortunately.— guess, what is coming for them, unfortunatel. , :, , , unfortunately. these are the sickest atients for unfortunately. these are the sickest patients for whom _ unfortunately. these are the sickest patients for whom the _ unfortunately. these are the sickest patients for whom the covert - patients for whom the covert treatments have not worked. yes. patients for whom the covert treatments have not worked. yes, it is tou . h to treatments have not worked. yes, it is tough to keep _ treatments have not worked. yes, it is tough to keep their _ treatments have not worked. yes, it is tough to keep their spirits - treatments have not worked. yes, it is tough to keep their spirits up - is tough to keep their spirits up and then is obviously very tough for us when they do become more unwell and unfortunately have to go on a life—support machine. and unfortunately have to go on a life-support machine.— life-support machine. tickle care has been a _ life-support machine. tickle care has been a visible _ life-support machine. tickle care has been a visible front - life-support machine. tickle care has been a visible front line of i has been a visible front line of this pandemic. i8 has been a visible front line of this pandemic. 18 months down the line staff are wary but covid continues to bring them more patients. this time, though, things are different. i patients. this time, though, things are different-— are different. i was last here in the winter _ are different. i was last here in the winter of _ are different. i was last here in the winter of last _ are different. i was last here in the winter of last year. - are different. i was last here in the winter of last year. at - are different. i was last here in the winter of last year. at that | the winter of last year. at that oint the winter of last year. at that point there — the winter of last year. at that point there was _ the winter of last year. at that point there was no _ the winter of last year. at that point there was no vaccine - the winter of last year. at that - point there was no vaccine stopped and the majority of patients were older. this time round, by father of patients are younger who have chosen not to have a vaccine and staff are safe you are surviving. doctor lee allen is one of the critical care consultants based here. this is absolutely _ consultants based here. this is absolutely as _ consultants based here. this is absolutely as busy _ consultants based here. this is absolutely as busy as - consultants based here. this is absolutely as busy as we - consultants based here. this is absolutely as busy as we have | consultants based here. this is - absolutely as busy as we have seen it over the last few weeks. as i say, one of the most difficult parts of that for us to cope with is the patient�*s a very young, usually fit and extremely sick. as i say, not all patients are lucky enough to make it out of intensive care, unfortunately.— make it out of intensive care, unfortunately. some do make it throu~h. unfortunately. some do make it through. this _ unfortunately. some do make it through. this patient _ unfortunately. some do make it through. this patient is - unfortunately. some do make it through. this patient is now - unfortunately. some do make it through. this patient is now off| through. this patient is now off life—support and will begin the long road to recovery. george maclean was in the same boatjust a few days ago. his time in intensive care has left its mark. ago. his time in intensive care has left its mark-— left its mark. petrified. scared. i have four kids. _ left its mark. petrified. scared. i have four kids. don't _ left its mark. petrified. scared. i have four kids. don't drink, - left its mark. petrified. scared. i| have four kids. don't drink, don't smoke. neverthought have four kids. don't drink, don't smoke. never thought it would be me. i didn't want to go. obviously you start planning, sit and watching the machine, just watching it. is it going to be, or are you going to... it is out of your control, basically. it is out of your control, basically-— it is out of your control, basicall. ,, , :, basically. staff say it is hard seeinu basically. staff say it is hard seeing unvaccinated - basically. staff say it is hard | seeing unvaccinated patients basically. staff say it is hard i seeing unvaccinated patients in their 20s, 30s and 405 are seeing unvaccinated patients in their 205, 305 and 405 are so ill. it is sad because you are having conversations with the family and they are talking about not getting they are talking about not getting the vaccine and the reasons they have had for it at that point it is too late. :, , :, too late. covid patients tend to send too late. covid patients tend to spend longer— too late. covid patients tend to spend longer in _ too late. covid patients tend to spend longer in icu _ too late. covid patients tend to spend longer in icu than - too late. covid patients tend to spend longer in icu than other| spend longer in icu than other patients. it means highly trained staff diverted away from treating other critically ill people. decisions do have to be made. do we do a big house operation that requires critical care post surgery or do we take the emergency patients who are turning up in emergency department unable to breathe and thatis department unable to breathe and that is an impossible decision to make. , :, , :, that is an impossible decision to make. , :, :, , make. every part of the hospital is at capacity- _ make. every part of the hospital is at capacity. usually _ make. every part of the hospital is at capacity. usually around - make. every part of the hospital is at capacity. usually around 40 - make. every part of the hospital is| at capacity. usually around 40 beds are available to admit patients or move them to other wards. today there are nine. it means only urgent or high priority operations can take place. or high priority operations can take lace. , :, :, :, place. every morning we have to decide what _ place. every morning we have to decide what can _ place. every morning we have to decide what can go _ place. every morning we have to decide what can go ahead - place. every morning we have to decide what can go ahead down| place. every morning we have to i decide what can go ahead down to place. every morning we have to - decide what can go ahead down to the single cases but generally what we're doing isjuggling with single cases but generally what we're doing is juggling with a few beds spare that we have every day to make sure that we just make sure every patient can be seen.- every patient can be seen. that, too, every patient can be seen. that, too. impacts _ every patient can be seen. that, too. impacts on _ every patient can be seen. that, too, impacts on staff. _ every patient can be seen. that, too, impacts on staff. it - every patient can be seen. that, too, impacts on staff. it is - too, impacts on staff. it is difficult — too, impacts on staff. it is difficult for _ too, impacts on staff. it is difficult for nurses - too, impacts on staff. it is difficult for nurses and - too, impacts on staff. it 3 difficult for nurses and doctors to deal with patients when they don't get to deliver something that they know would give them a much better quality of life stop meanwhile, at the hospital's front door, more patients arrive.— the hospital's front door, more patients arrive. hello, emergency department. _ patients arrive. hello, emergency department, claire _ patients arrive. hello, emergency department, claire speaking. - department, claire speaking. everyone is stretched, everyone is tired and with winter around the corner, there is still no end in sight. lisa summers, bbc news. we will be having a regular weekly chat with linda and chris. all of your questions, immunisation rates and so on. we would be speaking to the little bit later. shall we bring you a blast from the past? 45 years ago today childrentelevision, children's saturday morning television was launched with the multicoloured swap shop and that was presented by noel edwards. kids are still being entertained by slime and the saturday matchup, there are other team, who are getting ready to do today's show. we will speak to be... to the present is a little bit later. ,:, :, be... to the present is a little bit later. , :, :, :, be... to the present is a little bit later. :, it be... to the present is a little bit later._ it brings i be... to the present is a little bit l later._ it brings back later. good morning! it brings back flashbacks for _ later. good morning! it brings back flashbacks for you, _ later. good morning! it brings back flashbacks for you, doesn't - later. good morning! it brings back flashbacks for you, doesn't it? - flashbacks for you, doesn't it? didn't you dream of being gunged when you were a kid? for didn't you dream of being gunged when you were a kid?— when you were a kid? for some --eole, when you were a kid? for some people. the _ when you were a kid? for some people, the dreams _ when you were a kid? for some people, the dreams come - when you were a kid? for some people, the dreams come true. | when you were a kid? for some - people, the dreams come true. your time starts — people, the dreams come true. your time starts now! _ people, the dreams come true. your time starts now! i _ people, the dreams come true. your time starts now! i can't _ people, the dreams come true. your time starts now! i can't believe - people, the dreams come true. your time starts now! i can't believe we i time starts now! i can't believe we 'ust time starts now! i can't believe we just showed _ time starts now! i can't believe we just showed about _ time starts now! i can't believe we just showed about and _ time starts now! i can't believe we just showed about and not - time starts now! i can't believe we j just showed about and not charlie. is charlie about to get it to? me is charlie about to get it to? we will aet is charlie about to get it to? we will get that, we will get that. i | will get that, we will get that. wasn't happy. i wasn't happy will get that, we will get that]. wasn't happy. i wasn't happy that will get that, we will get that]- wasn't happy. i wasn't happy that i got gunged first. i don't know what it is made out of but when it hits you it is fine and then it gets really, really cold. so you end up, like, it's warm, so it is like a warm, quite nice, actually. then it gets really cold and you are shivering by the end of it. everything, everything is gunged. shoes, everything. iwalked into the shower with all my clothes on. did ou shower with all my clothes on. did you choose your close for that day thinking... i you choose your close for that day thinking- - -— you choose your close for that day thinkina . .. :, :, , : thinking... i have worn them since, thou~h, thinking... i have worn them since, though. they _ thinking... i have worn them since, though, they have _ thinking... i have worn them since, though, they have been _ thinking... i have worn them since, though, they have been watched. i thinking... i have worn them since, | though, they have been watched. it is cleaner than it has ever been! me is cleaner than it has ever been! we will see more of that later and your memories of saturday morning television. memories of saturday morning television-— television. now, from petrol stations running _ television. now, from petrol stations running dry - television. now, from petrol stations running dry to - television. now, from petrol stations running dry to bear| stations running dry to bear supermarket shelves. the last few weeks have seen some supplies of essential items really squeezed. but what is it that is causing the shortages? we have heard all sorts of theories and claims that ros atkins has been looking at how the global supply chain problems have impacted is nurses across the uk. the global supply chain underpins how we get many of the things we need and use in our lives. it's not functioning as it normally does. that is impacting us all around the world and in the uk. you that is impacting us all around the world and in the uk.— world and in the uk. you can't lay bricks, world and in the uk. you can't lay bricks. you _ world and in the uk. you can't lay bricks. you can't _ world and in the uk. you can't lay bricks, you can't cast _ world and in the uk. you can't lay bricks, you can't cast concrete - bricks, you can't cast concrete slabs and then it is a knock—on event for our main subcontract is and of course our clients. == and of course our clients. -- subcontractors. _ and of course our clients. —— subcontractors. normally we have spider—man but this is all we have .ot spider—man but this is all we have got and _ spider—man but this is all we have got and we — spider—man but this is all we have got and we can't get any more. don't know— got and we can't get any more. don't know why— got and we can't get any more. don't know why we _ got and we can't get any more. don't know why we can't get any more spider—man at the moment that there is a new— spider—man at the moment that there is a new bill— spider—man at the moment that there is a new bill being released and this is— is a new bill being released and this is the — is a new bill being released and this is the new character. still waiting — this is the new character. still waiting for the products. from spider-man — waiting for the products. from spider-man to _ waiting for the products. from i spider-man to semiconductors, waiting for the products. f“';r>“n spider—man to semiconductors, there is now a huge gap between supply and demand. that is the boss of the ports in los angeles. look at the situation there. dozens of container ships are lined up, waiting and waiting to dock. the wall streetjournal wrote this week... orasa new or as a new york times put5 or as a new york times puts it... well, we might have to get used to it but you may also be wondering, why is this happening now? well, there are several interconnected reasons. the first is covid stop this is clairejones from the ft speaking as england emerged from its lockdown earlier this year. covid's brought us, shut factories, labour shortages, surging demand and also ports under pressure. this is china, one of the busiest ports in the world and august it was partially closed after a worker tested positive. another huge chinese port was temporarily closed in may, two. because while covid is a huge immediate factor, while public long—term reliance of shipping is at the heart of this. as the globalised supply chain rapidly expanded in the last 50 years, so did the number of size of cargo ships. it is estimated that over 90% of the world's goods are transported across our seas. and if that's the size of the global shipping network, this year we've seen its fragility. and notjust because of covid. the suez canal is in egypt. it is a shortcut for cargo ships and i am sure you remember this, when one ship got stuck, it caused havoc. this is my colleague leo leggett. the saga of the ever given itself may now be over but what this affair has shown is just how much impact a single event involving one giant vessel can have on the entire global supply chain. and just how vulnerable the systems we rely on for imports every day really are. that vulnerability from that ever given to the pandemic means lots of containers are stuck in the wrong places. combine that with surging computer —— consumer demand and it has spiralled. idate computer -- consumer demand and it has spiralled— has spiralled. we have never paid more than — has spiralled. we have never paid more than £270 _ has spiralled. we have never paid more than £270 for— has spiralled. we have never paid more than £270 for it _ has spiralled. we have never paid more than £270 for it container. more than £270 for it container coming to us from china. this morning i was quoted over £15,000 for a similar container. prices have gone through the roof and it is becoming unworkable. band gone through the roof and it is becoming unworkable.- gone through the roof and it is becoming unworkable. and of course if shi -|n~ becoming unworkable. and of course if shipping costs _ becoming unworkable. and of course if shipping costs go _ becoming unworkable. and of course if shipping costs go up, _ becoming unworkable. and of course if shipping costs go up, so _ becoming unworkable. and of course if shipping costs go up, so to - becoming unworkable. and of course if shipping costs go up, so to the - if shipping costs go up, so to the prices that consumers pay. in every sector of the _ prices that consumers pay. in every sector of the timber _ prices that consumers pay. in every sector of the timber supply - prices that consumers pay. in every| sector of the timber supply market, prices have gone up and supply chains have been less reliable. delivery to —— delivery drivers have been hard to get so everything has been hard to get so everything has been difficult.— been hard to get so everything has been difficult. now, the shortage of drivers referred _ been difficult. now, the shortage of drivers referred to _ been difficult. now, the shortage of drivers referred to there _ been difficult. now, the shortage of drivers referred to there is - been difficult. now, the shortage of drivers referred to there is an - drivers referred to there is an issue here in the uk. in part, though not entirely, because a brexit. but the uk's not alone in experiencing labour shortages. and along with covid and shipping, this is the next factor to impact the supply chain. forbes magazine wrote this summer... and if we go back to those ships waiting to dock in la, a lack of port workers, distribution centre staff and truck drivers are all reasons why the goods can't be unloaded. now, our next factor is politics. donald trump fired up a trade war between the us and china and he placed an emphasis on local and he placed an emphasis on local and regional manufacturing over a reliance on china. ancap trump cosmic successorjoe biden has also turned to the of overreliance. idate turned to the of overreliance. we need to turned to the of overreliance. , need to prevent the supply chain crisis from happening in the first place and in some cases building resilience will mean increasing our production of certain types of elements here at home. this production of certain types of elements here at home. this is both ractical elements here at home. this is both practical and — elements here at home. this is both practical and political. _ elements here at home. this is both practical and political. tactical - practical and political. tactical because relying on something from the other side of the world brings an increased risk that it won't arrive. political because being so reliant on china can also be trip framed as a risk that impacts health and national security in america. that was particularly acute the start of the pandemic when there was shortages of ppe. here is biden on that. ~ : :, , shortages of ppe. here is biden on that. : :, �* shortages of ppe. here is biden on that. : �* , shortages of ppe. here is biden on that. : �* that. we certainly shouldn't rely on a foreian that. we certainly shouldn't rely on a foreign country, _ that. we certainly shouldn't rely on a foreign country, especially - that. we certainly shouldn't rely on a foreign country, especially one i a foreign country, especially one that doesn't share our interests or values, in order to protect our people during a national emergency. the final point is something we all know from our own lives. —— lives. the more complex thing is, the more likely it is to go wrong. there is a system brought in known asjustjust in time. the system creates savings by only delivering goods to firms when they need them, which is fine until they don't arrive. the chief executive of kellogg's put5 until they don't arrive. the chief executive of kellogg's puts it this way. and if that's a serial manufacturer well, the businesses that take those cereals are also under pressure. lgale that take those cereals are also under pressure.— that take those cereals are also under ressure. ~ :, , _ under pressure. we have been saying for 'ust a under pressure. we have been saying forjust a few — under pressure. we have been saying forjust a few weeks _ under pressure. we have been saying forjust a few weeks now, _ under pressure. we have been saying forjust a few weeks now, that - under pressure. we have been saying forjust a few weeks now, that the i for just a few weeks now, that the system which under 10—— underpins our industry is under the most strain it has ever been. almost every sector — strain it has ever been. almost every sector is _ strain it has ever been. almost every sector is impacted - strain it has ever been. almost every sector is impacted in - strain it has ever been. almost l every sector is impacted in some strain it has ever been. almost - every sector is impacted in some way by these glitches in the supply chain. perhaps none more so than the car industry. in part because there is a global shortage of semiconductor chips stop these are a vital component in cars and indeed in many electrical products from washing machines to smart phones. when the pandemic began, car manufacturing stopped and so did the automaker�*s waters of semiconductors. now, though, they need them again but the surgeon everyone buying electrical products means the world is just about out of stock. the shortage of semiconductors and other parts, too, has now led toyota to temporarily cut production by 40% stop and if that's toyota then this is the managing director of vauxhall, uk. it is a global problem. obviously it is affecting all of our industry, all of our competitors. it is obviously suppressed our manufacturers.— obviously suppressed our manufacturers. , , , manufacturers. the issue is so serious that _ manufacturers. the issue is so serious that president - manufacturers. the issue is so serious that president biden . manufacturers. the issue is so i serious that president biden held manufacturers. the issue is so - serious that president biden held a summit about semiconductor supply chains last week, but with 75% of these chips made in asia, for all these chips made in asia, for all the reasons we've considered, there are not going to be any quick fixes as the biden administration acknowledges. figs as the biden administration acknowledges.— as the biden administration acknowledges. as the biden administration acknowledaes. r ~ :, :, acknowledges. as you know, we have been working — acknowledges. as you know, we have been working the _ acknowledges. as you know, we have been working the semiconductor- been working the semiconductor shortage since day one of the president's administration, and is time to get more aggressive. the situation is not getting better, in some ways it is getting worse. this is one of so — some ways it is getting worse. this is one of so many _ some ways it is getting worse. this is one of so many different ways of the global supply chain is making itself felt. it is a reminder for things that can sometimes feel distant and detached from our lives like the nature of globalisation or the practicalities of the shipping industry, to connect directly to us all. right down to the things that we make and the things that we want to buy. this is an issue as christmas approaches. figs to buy. this is an issue as christmas approaches. as you normally do. _ christmas approaches. as you normally do, you _ christmas approaches. as you normally do, you are - christmas approaches. as you normally do, you are going i christmas approaches. as you normally do, you are going to| christmas approaches. as you - normally do, you are going to get what you want, you will be very disappointed. the what you want, you will be very disappointed-— what you want, you will be very disappointed. the issues with the . lobal disappointed. the issues with the global supply _ disappointed. the issues with the global supply chain _ disappointed. the issues with the global supply chain have - disappointed. the issues with the global supply chain have created| global supply chain have created challenges but they are also a prompt to look at how our world. it has made many products affordable is not about whether toys arrive by christmas or of cars arrive on time, it raises deeper questions about the volume of things we make and consume and about how and where we make them. chance of those taking part in the belfast marathon. thanks forjoining us on breakfast with naga munchetty and jon kay. let's bring you up to date. from next week, low income families could lose more than £1000 each year, this is £120 uplift universal credit is stopped. it came in as a temporary measure to help families that were struggling financially during the pandemic, but for people like tracy, the challenge to make ends meet is constant, and she has been telling abbyjones about the impact that losing this money is going to have on her. iam 57. i am 57. i've been a carerfor 20 years. and to be honest, coming up to retirement, i neverfelt that i would be in a situation of debt. didn't think we would be at the bottom of the heap.— didn't think we would be at the bottom of the heap. that's how you feel, at bottom of the heap. that's how you feel. at the — bottom of the heap. that's how you feel, at the bottom _ bottom of the heap. that's how you feel, at the bottom of _ bottom of the heap. that's how you feel, at the bottom of the - bottom of the heap. that's how you feel, at the bottom of the heap? i feel, at the bottom of the heap? yeah, because we can't afford anything, we are always scraping by. i always thought i would own my own home but i'm still having to rent because i've never had a job that pays a good enough wage. and that is mainly why we are on universal credit. :, : f , mainly why we are on universal credit. :, : f, , mainly why we are on universal credit. :, : j, , :, credit. tracy's been on universal credit. tracy's been on universal credit for four _ credit. tracy's been on universal credit for four years, _ credit. tracy's been on universal credit for four years, since - credit. tracy's been on universal credit for four years, since her l credit for four years, since her husband, credit forfour years, since her husband, a postman, retired with ill health. she has always worked but says every day is still a struggle. last month her energy company quadrupled her monthly bill, debt management company has had to look her finances, management company has had to look herfinances, losing £20 a management company has had to look her finances, losing £20 a week from the universal credit payment will be a bitter blow. but the universal credit payment will be a bitter blow— a bitter blow. but £20 keeps me in work at the — a bitter blow. but £20 keeps me in work at the moment. _ a bitter blow. but £20 keeps me in work at the moment. that - a bitter blow. but £20 keeps me in work at the moment. that is - a bitter blow. but £20 keeps me in work at the moment. that is my i work at the moment. that is my petrol for going to work. i will have to figure a way of putting petrol in my car. there's no way i'm going to put the heating back on. you won't have the heating on all winter? no, we will use blankets and coats and jumpers.— coats and 'umpers. instead of -auttin coats and jumpers. instead of putting the — coats and jumpers. instead of putting the heating _ coats and jumpers. instead of putting the heating on? - coats and jumpers. instead of l putting the heating on? instead coats and jumpers. instead of - putting the heating on? instead of -auttin the putting the heating on? instead of putting the heating _ putting the heating on? instead of putting the heating on. _ putting the heating on? instead of putting the heating on. food - putting the heating on? instead of putting the heating on. food is i putting the heating on? instead of putting the heating on. food is a i putting the heating on. food is a massive part of the budget, and i really have to be clever in the way i buy and how i buy and when i buy. it's going out frequently to the cheapest shop in the area and finding out what small offers they've got that i can afford. so cuite they've got that i can afford. so quite stressful for you, shopping? very, very stressful. especially when i see people with choppy —— with trolleys brimming over the top, and you get to the two and think, have i got enough? i really need more, but i can't get any more. do ou more, but i can't get any more. do you think the government understands what it is like the working people like you? what it is like the working people like ou? :, , , :, , like you? no, completely not. they have no idea. _ like you? no, completely not. they have no idea, the _ like you? no, completely not. they have no idea, the last _ like you? no, completely not. they have no idea, the last week - like you? no, completely not. they have no idea, the last week of - like you? no, completely not. they have no idea, the last week of the i have no idea, the last week of the month is a real struggle to make it through to the next payday. i depend on charity shops. even my furniture is out of charity shops. i have never been to a traffic centre, i've never been to a traffic centre, i've never been to a traffic centre, i've never been able to go into any of the posh shops. they are just out of my price range, they take so much money out of the budget. essen my price range, they take so much money out of the budget.- my price range, they take so much money out of the budget. even if the £20 to - money out of the budget. even if the £20 to u- money out of the budget. even if the £20 top up was _ money out of the budget. even if the £20 top up was to — money out of the budget. even if the £20 top up was to stay, _ money out of the budget. even if the £20 top up was to stay, tracy - money out of the budget. even if the £20 top up was to stay, tracy says i £20 top up was to stay, tracy says getting on top of her finances is a mammoth task because of the way universal credit is structured. every pound i earn, they reduce the universal credit to 67p, which means i am working £30 for every pound. and it is costing me more to go to work than it is to stay at home. the government — work than it is to stay at home. the government say the uplift was just a temporary measure, people budgeted before, that you canjust temporary measure, people budgeted before, that you can just go temporary measure, people budgeted before, that you canjust go back temporary measure, people budgeted before, that you can just go back to budgeting again. is it that simple? it isn't, because prices are going up. it is like giving somebody hope that can manage the pacing is, that they can move forward and then snatching the rock from underneath them. the worst thing you can do to people's take away their hope that they might be able to get out of the situation they are in. and thanks to tracy for speaking to our reporter, abbyjones. the time now is 7:37am. it is time to talk sport, and mike as always is clearing lots of things up for all of us. we have got an exciting match coming up. of us. we have got an exciting match cominu u -. �* , coming up. building up the excitement _ coming up. building up the excitement already - coming up. building up the excitement already to - coming up. building up the excitement already to nextj coming up. building up the - excitement already to next week, coming up. building up the _ excitement already to next week, the grand final super league, chasing the trophy in all its glory, it is a solid treaty. lancashire against the south of france for the first time. st helens always seem to get there, they have now got a bit of history they have now got a bit of history they can chase next weekend, they will explain that in a moment against the catalan dragons, from pat mignon, for the first time, managed by rugby league stalwart, mr mcnamara. so lots of traditional rugby league influence there in the south of france, but it should be a brilliant match. it is south of france, but it should be a brilliant match.— brilliant match. it is like a superhero _ brilliant match. it is like a superhero trophy. - brilliant match. it is like a | superhero trophy. because brilliant match. it is like a i superhero trophy. because it brilliant match. it is like a - superhero trophy. because it has brilliant match. it is like a _ superhero trophy. because it has bs, like superman. superhero trophy. because it has bs, like superman-— like superman. yes, in the middle. very good- — three super lee grant finals in a row for st helens, that is why they are so used to it. last night they trashed leeds rhinos 36—8, and it was the saints when it nate was the start of the show. he scored two of the six tries, a brilliant match. they have on the treaty for the past two years. they will play the french club, catalans dragons at old trafford. the dragons in theirfirst final, the saints trying to equal leeds' record of eight victories in all, the most in grand final history. now, in rugby union, bristol's first one of the new premiership season will have been all the more sleet because it came in the derby match against bath. bath were the dominant side at ashton gate throughout this game is led by nine points in the second half, but a combination of, well, callum sheedy�*s kicking and a clever try from jake kerr enabled the home side, bristol, to snatch the much—needed win 25—20. home fans went home very happy indeed. britain's cameron norrie continues to shine, he has now reached the semifinals of the san diego open, and did it in real style, topping just four games in a straight sets victory over the fourth seed. his brilliant form of 2021 has stalled in recent weeks, but this wind took him into his sixth atp semi—final this year, where he will face the top seed, andrey rublev. a diplomatic row has erupted after ranges midfielder glenn kamara was subjected to doing and jeering by sparta prague fans in their europa league game on thursday, which we were talking about yesterday. the check foreign minister has now summoned the british ambassador for talks. rangers have contacted uefa over glen kamara's treatment which camejust months over glen kamara's treatment which came just months after he was racially abused by a slavia private player. 10,000 children were out this week's game with chaperones. the scottish players union describes glen kamara's treatment as sickening abuse, but sparta prague called for xenophobic attacks on the children to stop stop it should have been an empty stadium. i to stop stop it should have been an empty stadium-— to stop stop it should have been an em stadium. :, ':: 11:11: , empty stadium. i would 10,000 people allowed in there, _ empty stadium. i would 10,000 people allowed in there, whether _ empty stadium. i would 10,000 people allowed in there, whether it _ empty stadium. i would 10,000 people allowed in there, whether it was - allowed in there, whether it was children or adults? itjust shows that uefa don't care. for far too long it has been going on, but they don't care, they have let fans into a stadium when it is meant to be behind closed doors, what kind of messages that sending out? manchester versus liverpool this weekend and a premier league, first up weekend and a premier league, first up this lunchtime united host everton and winner can temporarily go top of the table. everton manager rapper benita has had some battles with sir alex ferguson when he was at liverpool, of course, but the current boss insists football is about the players, not the managers. you enjoy coming up against good teams, good managers, but we're not playing. it is the players were playing. it is the players were playing. it is the players were playing. i don't... playing. it is the players were playing. idon't... i playing. it is the players were playing. i don't... i neverfeel it is me against rapper or me against brendan or whoever. —— rafa. it is the players. we facilitate the players, and you depend on your players, and you depend on your players to get your result and certainly then you are a genius, if you lose, then it is of course our fault. so that is just the way it is. fault. so that is 'ust the way it is. :, , ,:, , fault. so that is 'ust the way it is. :_ :_ ., fault. so that is 'ust the way it is. :, , fault. so that is 'ust the way it is. he may say that, but there is one match _ is. he may say that, but there is one match today _ is. he may say that, but there is one match today but _ is. he may say that, but there is one match today but is - is. he may say that, but there is one match today but is very - is. he may say that, but there is. one match today but is very much about the managers. this caused confusion in late 19705, and promises to do so again today. two football league clubs with managers with the same name, indifferent dugouts. back in 1978 it was full and's bobby campbell against the manager of bristol rovers, also bobby campbell. today it is all about matt taylors. accident in one dugout, and matt taylor of walsall in the other one, in this league to much. it is the first time they have faced each other. the exeter city boss reckons he is right down the bottom of the list in terms of the matt taylors out there.— bottom of the list in terms of the matt taylors out there. you've got what he paid _ matt taylors out there. you've got what he paid in — matt taylors out there. you've got what he paid in 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when i the convention is. yes, matt, when is it? well, saint james park well, saintjames park in exeter, in the rain. only naturalfor a weatherman to be there. i was actually offered tickets for the match today, from my mate chris. and his son sam. they are heading. unfortunately i had to work, us matt taylors don't get a day off, ever. you havejoined taylors don't get a day off, ever. you have joined to tell us all about the rain. go on, then. if you have joined to tell us all about the rain. go on, then.— the rain. go on, then. if you are off to the _ the rain. go on, then. if you are off to the hot — the rain. go on, then. if you are off to the hot ticket _ the rain. go on, then. if you are off to the hot ticket of _ the rain. go on, then. if you are off to the hot ticket of the - the rain. go on, then. if you are off to the hot ticket of the day l off to the hot ticket of the day down in exit, between exeter and walsall, be prepared. there is going to be lots of rain around, it gives you a flavour of what is in store for many of us through the day. it will be the loudest, wittiest day of the date of the vast majority, rain spinning to most areas, even if you're starting out ryan right at the moment they will be gales in the south—east of england, tomorrow looking brighter with a bit of sunshine around, if few showers, but it is shetland, the far north of scotland, where we will see the most severe the wind strength. out there in the mid—atlantic, south of bermuda, is hurricane sale. thousands of miles away, not affecting us, but it would not cloud stretches from that what we have with us today, an area of low pressure pushing its way in from the south—west, joining forces with weather fronts pushing south—west, joining forces with weatherfronts pushing in from south—west, joining forces with weather fronts pushing in from the north—west to produce what will be quite a sunny saturday. on the eastern edge, where we will see some of the strongest winds later, to the west at the moment, this is where we have the rain. quite extensively to wales, south—west england, becoming heavy and more persistent. more hit and miss in northern england, southern scotland and northern ireland, but there will be wetter moments in northern ireland through this morning before the bright sunshine and showers later. rain pushes north and east across much of england and wales. if you have some sunshine at the moment and eastern parts of england in central southern scotland, make the most of it. this afternoon is looking a good deal cloudier and wetter. the driest and brightest of all today in the final of scotland, with sunny spells, one showers, a cool day, 11— 16 degrees, the highs made to feel cool about the highs made to feel cool about the strength of the wind which is at its strongest, biggest chance of some travel disruption in the english channel close to three into east anglia, we could see gust of wind 45 — 60 miles an hour. it will stay windy here for a time this evening. heavy rain across many central and eastern areas. it clears out through tonight. it will remain in the final piece of scotland, when we could see the potential for some flooding in one or two spots. showers continue to push into the west with the breeze and it will be another fairly cool night, this time coolest across some western areas. temperatures may be low enough for frost in central scotland. into sunday, an area of low pressures around shetland, this is where we see the strongest of the winds, 60-70 see the strongest of the winds, 60—70 miles an hour gust, most will have a bright start across the eastern half of the country, in the western sunshine and showers, showers driven east as the breeze picks up across the rest of the uk. and again tomorrow, another cool day. that's it. after you both. thank you very much, much. funny how we look at the weather, isn't it? trying to work out our days and weather we are going to get rained on. :, , ., weather we are going to get rained on. :, , :, ,:, , on. that is the whole point. it is 7:45am stop _ on. that is the whole point. it is 7:45am stop a _ on. that is the whole point. it is 7:45am stop a new— on. that is the whole point. it is 7:45am stop a new academic i on. that is the whole point. it is i 7:45am stop a new academic year university students, many of whom are returning, will at lustre to sit in a lecture hall. people you would be excited about that? and attend classes in person for the first time since they began their studies. at the university of bristol they have been welcoming the return of normality, while working at the same time to try to keep everybody safe, as fiona landen has been finding out. it is still worth its this is surrounded by people... it is the first time in two years i have seen so many students. it is lovely. i like seeing them. without them i haven't got a job. it is lovely to see them. i'm pretty sure they are happy to be back. the second year — they are happy to be back. the second year students certainly are. todayis second year students certainly are. today is the first time they have ever been into a lecture room. i didn't even know where to go this morning but we have a ready been here for a year. luckily today it was quite relaxed because people aren't stressing out about covid and there aren't face masks and advisors everywhere, it was quite nice actually. everywhere, it was quite nice actuall . , :, :, :, , actually. refreshing. how hard was it socialising _ actually. refreshing. how hard was it socialising last _ actually. refreshing. how hard was it socialising last year? _ actually. refreshing. how hard was it socialising last year? it _ actually. refreshing. how hard was it socialising last year? it was - it socialising last year? it was cuite it socialising last year? it was quite weird — it socialising last year? it was quite weird doing _ it socialising last year? it was quite weird doing all- it socialising last year? it was quite weird doing all of- it socialising last year? it was quite weird doing all of our. it socialising last year? it was i quite weird doing all of our make it socialising last year? it was - quite weird doing all of our make up in hedges _ quite weird doing all of our make up in hedges to go out of the kitchen. rather— in hedges to go out of the kitchen. rather than —— in hedges to go out of the kitchen. ratherthan —— and in hedges to go out of the kitchen. rather than —— and hair. in hedges to go out of the kitchen. ratherthan —— and hair. right in hedges to go out of the kitchen. rather than —— and hair. right now we can— rather than —— and hair. right now we can go— rather than —— and hair. right now we can gotc— rather than —— and hair. right now we can go to a coffee shop. things like that— we can go to a coffee shop. things like that in— we can go to a coffee shop. things like that in bars and pubs. and just round _ like that in bars and pubs. and just round the — like that in bars and pubs. and just round the corner, these third—year veterinary— round the corner, these third—year veterinary students are out for lunch — veterinary students are out for lunch. ~ :, , , :, veterinary students are out for lunch. ~ :, ,, :, :, :, veterinary students are out for lunch. :, ,, :, :, :, :, lunch. we have missed a lot, a lot of sort lunch. we have missed a lot, a lot of sport socials — lunch. we have missed a lot, a lot of sport socials and _ lunch. we have missed a lot, a lot of sport socials and going - lunch. we have missed a lot, a lot of sport socials and going out - lunch. we have missed a lot, a lot of sport socials and going out and | of sport socials and going out and just being able to sit and have a catch up with your friends or having friends over for dinner in the evenings, none of that happened. idate evenings, none of that happened. we are going to start going out again and going — are going to start going out again and going out clubbing tomorrow. going _ and going out clubbing tomorrow. going on— and going out clubbing tomorrow. going on thursday. while the university wants its students back, it needs to keep them and its staff safe. ~ :, :, , it needs to keep them and its staff safe. . :, :, , :, safe. we have made sure that the ventilation — safe. we have made sure that the ventilation is _ safe. we have made sure that the ventilation is adequate _ safe. we have made sure that the ventilation is adequate and - safe. we have made sure that the. ventilation is adequate and ramped up ventilation is adequate and ramped up ventilation in many rooms. we are sanitising so in between sessions, touch points are cleaned. we are respecting and recommending that people wear a face covering indoors because we know that pirtek people. students are one —— hoping this term will be very different from the last. hide those traffic cones, the students are back.— hide those traffic cones, the students are back. �* , :, :, students are back. let's have a look at this week's _ students are back. let's have a look at this week's newswatch _ students are back. let's have a look at this week's newswatch with - students are back. let's have a look| at this week's newswatch with some ahmed. hello, and welcome to watch with me samira ahmed. did the bbc feel a sense of panic at the petrol pumps this week, and could the name of this reporter on the forecourt been any more appropriate? it was thursday of last week when the bbc first put on a story which was to dominate news output over the following few days. it appeared in the headlines on the news at six. a shortage of lorry drivers forces bp and e550 to close some of their petrol stations. downing street says people should buy fuel as normal. by friday lunchtime, a sense of crisis was developing. the government urges people not to panic buy fuel after some petrol stations had to close because there aren't enough petrol tank delivery drivers. there are long queues of motorists in some parts of the country trying to fill up. petrol station owners insist there is no need to panic. but that 'don't panic�* message seemed to have an adverse effect as the queues lengthened and anger grew for some motorists. i'm not going to make it! people have half a tank and they are going in there to fill up. three hours, isjust ridiculous. the problem was clear, the cause of it less so. the government insisted there was no lack of fuel, just a shortage of drivers. but hundreds of newswatch viewers told us they put the blame squarely on the media and specifically bbc. two of those viewers join me now. as doesjonathan munro, bbc�*s deputy director of news. carolyn, can i start with you. what did you object to with that news coverage? basically, i felt that it was a bit of a nonstory that was built up to the point which people started saying, 'don't panic�*. if we've learned anything from covid and the lockdown, if you say don't panic, people panic. people including main sister—in—law rushed out to fill their cars with petrol, and that's what caused the problem. jonathan, this is a specific point. did the bbc hype the story early on when it was only a few petrol stations? i don't think so. i don't think it was a nonstory. i think a lot of people were affected by, whether it's supply issues, but at the pump whether there was an inability to fill up. so when dealing with stories like this, it is how do you solve the dilemma, which clearly exists, between reporting the story that lots of people are interested in, and as carolyn says, making it a self—fulfilling prophecy and making people like carolyn's sister—in—law want to change her behaviour. it was the lead on the friday morning on the news channel. once it's that prominent, you can see why people think that's giving it a message. there is a prominent debate, for sure, about these stories. at the time, about three quarters of petrol stations in england were having some problem with deliveries and therefore supply to the consumer. there are all sorts of layers to the story, like consumer behaviour stories but also stories about government preparedness and resilience in the just—in—time supply chains and supplies to supermarkets and retail outlets. so quite a lot of complexity to go into. you're a driving instructor yourself. how were you affected by the way the story developed over the days. it was huge, it was instant. i have no problems with receiving, ifilling my car up until last fridayi morning when this news story broke, - and literally i had to stop work. that friday and haven't been able to go back since because i cannot get fuel in my local area. again, friday morning it is when their problem kicked off which is after it had been given a lot of prominence on bbc news. anna just gave one story. a lot of people have been really badly affected, cancelled medical social care and medical operations. did bbc think about the consequences of the prominence it got on the friday evening there's evening friday morning. we did think a lot about it. we didn't dig about driving schools but _ we didn't dig about driving schools but -- _ we didn't dig about driving schools but... —— didn't think about. other workers whose livelihoods were affected, including people delivering care in the community, such as nurses. those people are clearly not panic buying. it is part of their essential tools to go to work. and in the case of nurses and care deliveries that has a real knock on to people who are vulnerable. they are not in any sense panic buying. reporting on the business sense is what we try to do. on the prominence point, whether we lead on a story it does slightly depend on what else is happening in the world. this week, for example, we have covered the events in afghanistan and the terrible events around the sarah everard murder. back end of last week was a little bit quieter elsewhere in the world and it did achieve a prominence in our bulletins and elsewhere which was a result of both the prominence of the the importance of the story and what else is happening in our programmes. caroly, you're shaking your head. what is your response to the explanations? it kinda bears out my thoughts which is, there's no other news, let's make this one a bit bigger. quite honestly, from friday, through to even yesterday, the bbc was still showing a variety of people on forecourts, talking about not being able to get fuel. just continuing to add to the problem. my bbc east midlands show started its show at 6:35 yesterday with a photoshop of lots of empty pumps. honestly. that's just irresponsible journalism in my view. you need to recognise when you're causing a problem. an —— and actually do something about it. not simply fuel the fire because it is something to make news. anna, you are really upset as well because this has affected your livelihood. what would you like the bbc to learn from the way this story has been covered and the fact that so many viewers have complained? we're not the only profession that has been hugely affected by this l but we were just getting on our feet from lockdowns before. _ and i think the bbc need to be held to account in the way _ that they're funded. you have a social responsibility to report the truth. _ and what annoys me about this story is that you had other fuel _ providers, notjust bp— who were jumping onto the media saying we are fine, absolutely fine and stop panic buying fuel. - we don't have a problem with delivery. _ so where did this story come from? to me, it wasjust scaremongering i and sensationalism with the purpose of gaining viewer numbers. you've heard what the viewers say. what lessons do you think the bbc is learning from this? i think it is not ourjob to change the news but report the news. but they're arguing that it played a role in turning it into a story with this momentum. but i think the story that carolyn mentioned with shots of the series of pumps with no petrol available, that actually happened and we didn't make it up. we have to balance that with the responsibility about the bbc voice in the debate publicly and ensure that we are writing responsibly. but our responsibility is to report the whole picture, so to say as we did several times on most of our bulletins that there were parts of the country that weren't that there were parts of the country that weren't particularly affected. rural there were parts of the country that weren't particularly affected. rural there were some rural areas not as badly affected as urban areas. northern ireland was not affected at all. we went around the country to our correspondent in order to get an accurate picture of what was happening on their part of the uk. thank you all. after 16 years in power, germany's leader angela merkel is standing down. and on sunday, the country went to the polls to decide who would be her successor as chancellor and the make—up of the new parliament. the bbc covered the election online and with a 3.5 hour special programme on the news channel in the afternoon. when the late bbc one news went out that evening, the result was on a knife edge. as katia adler reported. excitement ricocheted around the headquarters of germany's social democrats tonight. dismissed as political has—been is not long ago, the smell of election victory, even if a narrow one, now hung in the air. results, though, still need to be confirmed. those waiting for the results to be confirmed might have tuned in eagerly to the following night's late bulletin. but they had to wait until 23 minutes into the bulletin for this. following the general election over the weekend, germany's social democratic party says it has a mandate to form a government. with 26% of the vote, their leader olaf scholz said he would create a coalition with the greens and liberals before christmas, but the christian democrat party now led by angler merkel�*s successor says it also has a right to try to form a coalition of its own. michael crick, formerly of the bbc and channel four news... finally, back to those queues for fuel, which as we have seen, have resulted in a lot of frustration and anger. but on saturday morning, one part of the bbc�*s output raised a laugh for some people. check out the name on the man reported on attempts of drivers trying to fill their cans with fuel. oui’ our reporter phil mccann is at a forecourt in stockport for us... all of the pumps are covered up with labels on things. june clark was one of those amused with that. well, we do understand that phil mccann's presence on the forecourt there was just a coincidence. he was swiftly trending on twitter, where some proposed other names. if you want to share your opinions of what you hear... that's all from us. we'll be back to hear your thoughts next week. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and jon kay. after the murder of sarah everard, the prime minister promises reform of the criminal justice system, which he describes as a "nightmare" for women. the problem is, we have too few prosecutions for rape and to view successful convictions. the army will begin delivering fuel to petrol stations across the uk from monday, after days of queuing at the pumps. it's been a long time coming. but the wait is nearly over. in the next hour, we hear some of the stories that will make tomorrow's london marathon so special. 45 years after the launch of saturday morning kid5 tv, we'll take a look at the secret to its success. saturdays on cbbc are now filled with challenges, live music, sporting conquest and possibly a bit of slime. bind sporting conquest and possibly a bit of slime. : :, , :, of slime. and while a bit more sunshine _ of slime. and while a bit more sunshine around _ of slime. and while a bit more sunshine around tomorrow, i of slime. and while a bit more i sunshine around tomorrow, today there are outbreaks of rain. south and east will also see the strongest of the winds. i will have the on breakfast. it's saturday the 2nd of october. the prime minister has promised reform to the criminaljustice system, following the murder of sarah everard by a serving police officer. borisjohnson urged the public to trust the police but admitted it's "infuriating" that cases of violence against women and girls are not being taken seriously enough. he also said the government needs to "come down very hard" on problems in the metropolitan police. simonjones reports. the death of sarah everard prompted an outpouring of public grief. now the government says it is determined her murder will bring about permanent change in how society deals with violence against women and girls. the prime minister says there are too few prosecutions and convictions for sexual violence. the time from convictions for sexual violence. ii9: time from report convictions for sexual violence. ii9 time from report to referral, from referral to court proceedings, from court proceedings to the conclusion, all three of those segments is far too long. and what you are seeing is the whole system snarled up with evidential problems, data issues, mobile phones disclosure, all that kind of stuff, and it's a nightmare for the women concerned.- for the women concerned. wayne couzens are _ for the women concerned. wayne couzens are kidnapped, - for the women concerned. wayne couzens are kidnapped, raped i for the women concerned. wayne | couzens are kidnapped, raped and murdered sarah everard, he then dumped her body in woodland in kent. cars register to him had previously been linked to two allegations of indecent exposure, but he wasn't identified as a potential six offender. it's claimed cousins also used a whatsapp group to swap misogynistic messages with officers from the metropolitan police, the civil nuclear constabulary, and the norfolk constabulary. idate civil nuclear constabulary, and the norfolk constabulary.— civil nuclear constabulary, and the norfolk constabulary. we also have to address the _ norfolk constabulary. we also have to address the issues _ norfolk constabulary. we also have to address the issues going - norfolk constabulary. we also have to address the issues going on - norfolk constabulary. we also have to address the issues going on in i to address the issues going on in the police force, and you will have seen this stuff about the officers on a whatsapp group. we got to come down very hard on them. the on a whatsapp group. we got to come down very hard on them.— down very hard on them. the home secretary says _ down very hard on them. the home secretary says the _ down very hard on them. the home secretary says the police _ down very hard on them. the home secretary says the police must - down very hard on them. the home j secretary says the police must raise the bar by taking harassment and flashing more seriously. pretty patel told the telegraph, they should not be considered a low level crimes. the met says it is putting more officers in places where people feel unsafe. idate more officers in places where people feel unsafe. ~ :, more officers in places where people feel unsafe-— feel unsafe. we are absolutely committed _ feel unsafe. we are absolutely committed to _ feel unsafe. we are absolutely committed to tackling - feel unsafe. we are absolutelyj committed to tackling violence against — committed to tackling violence against women and girls. it is one of our— against women and girls. it is one of our priorities. so you will see us out _ of our priorities. so you will see us out on — of our priorities. so you will see us out on patrol in hot spots. but there are calls _ us out on patrol in hot spots. iei,ii there are calls for more us out on patrol in hot spots. eli there are calls for more scrutiny of there are calls for more scrutiny of the police themselves. hour there are calls for more scrutiny of the police themselves.— the police themselves. how many times have _ the police themselves. how many times have we — the police themselves. how many times have we heard, _ the police themselves. how many times have we heard, lessons - the police themselves. how many times have we heard, lessons will the police themselves. how many i times have we heard, lessons will be learned, and how often really are they? i think there are some things that need to be done far more publicly, and one of those is a publicly, and one of those is a public enquiry along the lines of the macpherson enquiry into the murder of stephen lawrence. that was a seismic change for policing in relation to racism. we need that around misogyny.— around misogyny. opposition politicians— around misogyny. opposition politicians accused _ around misogyny. opposition politicians accused the - around misogyny. opposition - politicians accused the government of starving the police and courts of resources, but there is a growing consensus that the death of sarah everard must act as a watershed moment. simonjones, bbc news. the moment. simon jones, bbc news. the arm will moment. simonjones, bbc news. ii9 army will begin delivering fuel to forecourts from monday. ministers are also allowing up to 300 of the 5,000 hgv drivers being recruited from abroad to come to the uk immediately. up up to 4700 lorry drivers specialising in food delivery will start to arrive from the end of this month, and five and a half thousand poultry workers will also be granted the right to work here until the end of the year. the right to work here until the end of the year-— of the year. let's talk now to our olitical of the year. let's talk now to our political correspondent. - of the year. let's talk now to our political correspondent. good i political correspondent. good morning to you. the point is, these measures need to actually be practical measures and needs to happen in order to alleviate the pressure on the forecourts. can the government guarantee that? the government certainly hope so. they are urging people not to panic buy and stressing that there isn't actually a shortage of fuel itself, but certainly the queues we are still seeing shows that this hasn't gone away in the way they hope to. after days of speculation about whether the army itself would actually be brought in at all, and then an announcement that the army were being trained up to try and drive fuel tankers, we now know that the army will be brought in on monday to start driving fuel tankers to hopefully alleviate this problem. here is what the defence secretary said about why this is taken so long. said about why this is taken so lonu. , :, said about why this is taken so lon. _ , :, ., said about why this is taken so lonu. , :, :, ,:, said about why this is taken so lonu. , :, :, :, long. first of all, you are asking military personnel _ long. first of all, you are asking military personnel who - long. first of all, you are asking military personnel who are - long. first of all, you are asking i military personnel who are trained to drive tankers across country to take tankers full of highly flammable liquids into built—up areas, on to forecourts where you went out for love our cars. it has to be the case that we make sure they get the appropriate training to do so. i think we would all expect that to be the right thing, and at the same time we have to work with industry so that we know where we are sending them. we can'tjust send them to random garages. it has to be properly deployed. that them to random garages. it has to be properly deployed-— properly deployed. that is why the defence secretary _ properly deployed. that is why the defence secretary thinks - properly deployed. that is why the defence secretary thinks this - properly deployed. that is why the defence secretary thinks this has i defence secretary thinks this has taken a while to be introduced. but i think the announcement today that the military will start driving these tankers from monday is also an acknowledgement from the government that while they do say the situation is improving, it is not improving as quickly as they perhaps hoped. remember thatjust quickly as they perhaps hoped. remember that just last week quickly as they perhaps hoped. remember thatjust last week in rent sources are telling us that they didn't have any plans to bring in the military. the week before, they were saying that they also wanted to emphasise training up the domestic workforce to address the shortage of hgv drivers. but then they introduced a v2 scheme to attract foreign drivers to come and temporarily work in the uk. so while supporters of the government say this is then reacting quickly to a changing situation, critics say this is a u—turn and they haven't been prepared for the shortage of hgv drivers coming down the road after the pandemic and brexit, too. we will talk the pandemic and brexit, too. 9 will talk about this with the health secretary. he isjoining us at 8:30am. vaccine passports came into effect for the first time in scotland last night. people need proof of vaccination to gain entry to nightclubs or large events, before the scheme becomes mandatory on the 18th of october. ajudge rejected a challenge to the roll—out by the nightclub industry, although the launch of the app had been hit by technical problems. we've ultimately made a decision to respect _ we've ultimately made a decision to respect people who don't want to get vaccinated _ respect people who don't want to get vaccinated. i think that's why it's a little _ vaccinated. i think that's why it's a little bit — vaccinated. i think that's why it's a little bit disappointed, even though— a little bit disappointed, even though i— a little bit disappointed, even though i myself am double vaccinated. we are seeing effectively, "don't come." the queen is due to address _ effectively, "don't come." the queen is due to address msps _ effectively, "don't come." the queen is due to address msps at _ effectively, "don't come." the queen is due to address msps at holyrood i is due to address msps at holyrood to mark the new session of the scottish parliament. the ceremony would normally take place injuly but was postponed because of coronavirus. this will be the snp's fourth consecutive term in government, following their victory in may. government, following their victory in ma . :, :, government, following their victory in ma. :, :, :, government, following their victory inma. :, :, in may. the volcano that has been eru -atin in may. the volcano that has been erupting for _ in may. the volcano that has been erupting for the _ in may. the volcano that has been erupting for the last _ in may. the volcano that has been erupting for the last seven - in may. the volcano that has been erupting for the last seven days i in may. the volcano that has been erupting for the last seven days is| erupting for the last seven days is spewing out of control again. two new streams of lava have been threatening further disruption. many homes and crops have been destroyed. thousands more people have been forced to evacuate since the eruption first began last month. the time now is — eruption first began last month. ii9 time now is nine minutes past eight. trust in the police, that is the prime minister's message. "trust in the police" that's the prime minister's message to the public following the murder of sarah everard by a serving officer. however, he has acknowledged there are problems in how violence against women and girls is tackled in thejustice system. so what can police forces do to address concerns? joining us now is sue fish, former chief constable of nottingham police and baroness helena kennedy, a criminal barrister and labour peer. thank you very much forjoining us. you will be aware of the guidance that has been put out by the metropolitan police at how women in particular should approach the situation if they are approached by a serving police officer and proposed an arrest. do you agree with this guidance? i proposed an arrest. do you agree with this guidance?— proposed an arrest. do you agree with this guidance? i appreciate the met felt they _ with this guidance? i appreciate the met felt they need _ with this guidance? i appreciate the met felt they need to _ with this guidance? i appreciate the met felt they need to do _ with this guidance? i appreciate the | met felt they need to do something. they have _ met felt they need to do something. they have also had six months to think— they have also had six months to think about something, and this was the best— think about something, and this was the best they could do. flagging down _ the best they could do. flagging down a — the best they could do. flagging down a bus, seriously? buses in london — down a bus, seriously? buses in london don't stop between stops. and lots of— london don't stop between stops. and lots of streets don't have buses. if you are _ lots of streets don't have buses. if you are out — lots of streets don't have buses. if you are out of the capital and in a more _ you are out of the capital and in a more remote part of the world, you are lucky— more remote part of the world, you are lucky if— more remote part of the world, you are lucky if you can see the bus. it's absurd _ are lucky if you can see the bus. it's absurd. again, it puts the responsibility on women instead of actually— responsibility on women instead of actually the met looking at their own practices, their own procedures, their own _ own practices, their own procedures, their own stuff's behaviours, and addressing that first and foremost. in practical— addressing that first and foremost. in practical terms, what would be your advice for anyone today who is in that situation? what should they do? because another part of the advice was to use your phone to see if you can get in touch with the operator. my assumption is that you are not allowed to use your phone if under arrest?— under arrest? again, that is the challenge- _ under arrest? again, that is the challenge. and _ under arrest? again, that is the challenge. and i— under arrest? again, that is the challenge. and i think - under arrest? again, that is the challenge. and i think pretty i under arrest? again, that is the i challenge. and i think pretty much every— challenge. and i think pretty much every woman that i know, and certainly — every woman that i know, and certainly for me, would have got into certainly for me, would have got into that — certainly for me, would have got into that car with wayne couzens. because _ into that car with wayne couzens. because if— into that car with wayne couzens. because if you don't, you commit an offence _ because if you don't, you commit an offence of— because if you don't, you commit an offence of obstructing justice, of refusing — offence of obstructing justice, of refusing to be arrested. and maybe a lawyer— refusing to be arrested. and maybe a lawyer would get you off that, but actually. — lawyer would get you off that, but actually, you don't think about... there _ actually, you don't think about... there is— actually, you don't think about... there is a — actually, you don't think about... there is a real imbalance of power in there is a real imbalance of power in terms _ there is a real imbalance of power in terms of— there is a real imbalance of power in terms of a — there is a real imbalance of power in terms of a police officer versus any member of the public, and particularly a woman who is on her own and _ particularly a woman who is on her own and may have thought," oh, gosh, what have _ own and may have thought," oh, gosh, what have i— own and may have thought," oh, gosh, what have i done?" the black community in particular has come up, and this— community in particular has come up, and this has— community in particular has come up, and this has been a significant issue — and this has been a significant issue. trust in the black community has been _ issue. trust in the black community has been nonexistent for many years. and yet— has been nonexistent for many years. and yet it _ has been nonexistent for many years. and yet it has taken the death of a white _ and yet it has taken the death of a white woman to address, or start to address. _ white woman to address, or start to address, this very fundamental issue of trust _ address, this very fundamental issue of trust in _ address, this very fundamental issue of trust in policing. and that has to be _ of trust in policing. and that has to be created and developed. also, there is the — to be created and developed. also, there is the practical— to be created and developed. also, there is the practical issue. - to be created and developed. if there is the practical issue. police officers are going about their doing theirjobs. they are protecting society. but they are now being told that they have to wait, if they want to apprehend someone who they think is committed a crime, that whole process is being delayed and it is impinging on theirjob to do some good. impinging on their 'ob to do some aood. , :, , :,, good. there is that, but most arrests are — good. there is that, but most arrests are undertaken - good. there is that, but most arrests are undertaken by - good. there is that, but most| arrests are undertaken by two officers — arrests are undertaken by two officers for safety reasons. it is very— officers for safety reasons. it is very rare — officers for safety reasons. it is very rare that one officer, certainly _ very rare that one officer, certainly a plainclothes officer, is deployed — certainly a plainclothes officer, is deployed to make an arrest, certainly— deployed to make an arrest, certainly in my experience. that wouldn't — certainly in my experience. that wouldn't be usable. not impossible, but not _ wouldn't be usable. not impossible, but not usual. i think we have to think— but not usual. i think we have to think about _ but not usual. i think we have to think about this sensibly and practically, and most officers on the street— practically, and most officers on the street wear uniforms and are clearly— the street wear uniforms and are clearly identifiable. you the street wear uniforms and are clearly identifiable.— the street wear uniforms and are clearly identifiable. you have been a criminal barrister, _ clearly identifiable. you have been a criminal barrister, you _ clearly identifiable. you have been a criminal barrister, you have - clearly identifiable. you have been| a criminal barrister, you have been reviewing the issue of misogyny in scotland for the scottish parliament. when you hear talk about the system just not working, losing the system just not working, losing the trust of women, what do you think needs to happen? iirst the trust of women, what do you think needs to happen?- the trust of women, what do you think needs to happen? first of all, i'm rather sorry _ think needs to happen? first of all, i'm rather sorry that _ think needs to happen? first of all, i'm rather sorry that you _ think needs to happen? first of all, i'm rather sorry that you haven't i i'm rather sorry that you haven't asked _ i'm rather sorry that you haven't asked sue — i'm rather sorry that you haven't asked sue fish— i'm rather sorry that you haven't asked sue fish about _ i'm rather sorry that you haven't asked sue fish about her- i'm rather sorry that you haven't i asked sue fish about her incredible leadership— asked sue fish about her incredible leadership in— asked sue fish about her incredible leadership in nottingham... - leadership in nottingham... apologies, _ leadership in nottingham... apologies, we _ leadership in nottingham... apologies, we seem - leadership in nottingham... apologies, we seem to - leadership in nottingham... | apologies, we seem to have leadership in nottingham... - apologies, we seem to have lost that line. but we can pick up with sue. you were in charge in nottingham and you lead the way, prompted partly by your own experience. haifa you lead the way, prompted partly by your own experience.— you lead the way, prompted partly by your own experience. how personal is this for you? — your own experience. how personal is this for you? to _ your own experience. how personal is this for you? to be _ your own experience. how personal is this for you? to be fair, _ your own experience. how personal is this for you? to be fair, that - this for you? to be fair, that wasn't prompted _ this for you? to be fair, that wasn't prompted by - this for you? to be fair, that wasn't prompted by my - this for you? to be fair, that wasn't prompted by my own| wasn't prompted by my own background. we introduced misogyny in a background. we introduced misogyny in a hate _ background. we introduced misogyny in a hate crime in nottinghamshire five years— in a hate crime in nottinghamshire five years ago now. because of some amazing _ five years ago now. because of some amazing work that was done by citizens — amazing work that was done by citizens uk in nottingham. and they looked _ citizens uk in nottingham. and they looked at _ citizens uk in nottingham. and they looked at the experience of people subject— looked at the experience of people subject to — looked at the experience of people subject to hate crime, and what came out was _ subject to hate crime, and what came out was that— subject to hate crime, and what came out was that women were being disproportionately targeted because of their— disproportionately targeted because of their gender. if you lead in race, — of their gender. if you lead in race, faith, that was particularly acute _ race, faith, that was particularly acute we — race, faith, that was particularly acute. we listen to. it was really uncomfortable but we listened and we recognised that policing had to do something, and do something positive, — something, and do something positive, to respond to the experience of women and girls on our streets. _ experience of women and girls on our streets. and — experience of women and girls on our streets, and also that gave us a fantastic— streets, and also that gave us a fantastic opportunity to have a really — fantastic opportunity to have a really different conversation, particularly about misogyny but also about _ particularly about misogyny but also about domestic abuse, which is rooted — about domestic abuse, which is rooted in — about domestic abuse, which is rooted in misogyny, to be honest. and indeed, race, trans phobia, homophobia, despite all the years of equality— homophobia, despite all the years of equality and diversity training that policing _ equality and diversity training that policing has done. actually very little _ policing has done. actually very little has — policing has done. actually very little has made a real difference. this suddenly gave officers a framework to have a very different conversation internally, whether it's conversation internally, whether it's about — conversation internally, whether it's about how colleagues were treating — it's about how colleagues were treating each other are indeed about the experience of women and girls, and developing greater empathy and professionalism in investigating offences against them. i professionalism in investigating offences against them.- professionalism in investigating offences against them. i think the line has been _ offences against them. i think the line has been restored. _ offences against them. i think the line has been restored. sue - offences against them. i think the line has been restored. sue just i line has been restored. suejust explaining what she did within nottinghamshire. what would you like to see happen now more broadly in terms of trying to restore trust and faith in the system?— terms of trying to restore trust and faith in the system? well, as you've said, i'm chairing _ faith in the system? well, as you've said, i'm chairing an _ faith in the system? well, as you've said, i'm chairing an enquiry - faith in the system? well, as you've said, i'm chairing an enquiry in - said, i'm chairing an enquiry in scotland— said, i'm chairing an enquiry in scotland and _ said, i'm chairing an enquiry in scotland and looking— said, i'm chairing an enquiry in scotland and looking at - said, i'm chairing an enquiry in scotland and looking at what i said, i'm chairing an enquiry in l scotland and looking at what can said, i'm chairing an enquiry in - scotland and looking at what can be done, _ scotland and looking at what can be done, and _ scotland and looking at what can be done, and in — scotland and looking at what can be done, and in fact— scotland and looking at what can be done, and in fact sue _ scotland and looking at what can be done, and in fact sue fisch- scotland and looking at what can be done, and in fact sue fisch gave - done, and in fact sue fisch gave evidence — done, and in fact sue fisch gave evidence to _ done, and in fact sue fisch gave evidence to us. _ done, and in fact sue fisch gave evidence to us. i— done, and in fact sue fisch gave evidence to us. i do— done, and in fact sue fisch gave evidence to us. i do think- done, and in fact sue fisch gave evidence to us. i do think that i done, and in fact sue fisch gave i evidence to us. i do think that the police _ evidence to us. i do think that the police have — evidence to us. i do think that the police have to _ evidence to us. i do think that the police have to be _ evidence to us. i do think that the police have to be introspective - evidence to us. i do think that thei police have to be introspective and have a _ police have to be introspective and have a look— police have to be introspective and have a look at _ police have to be introspective and have a look at the _ police have to be introspective and have a look at the way— police have to be introspective and have a look at the way they - police have to be introspective and have a look at the way they do - police have to be introspective and| have a look at the way they do their own policing, — have a look at the way they do their own policing, and _ have a look at the way they do their own policing, and it _ have a look at the way they do their own policing, and it sort _ have a look at the way they do their own policing, and it sort of - have a look at the way they do their own policing, and it sort of work - own policing, and it sort of work that was — own policing, and it sort of work that was done _ own policing, and it sort of work that was done in _ own policing, and it sort of work that was done in nottingham - own policing, and it sort of work - that was done in nottingham should be replicated — that was done in nottingham should be replicated up— that was done in nottingham should be replicated up and _ that was done in nottingham should be replicated up and down— that was done in nottingham should be replicated up and down the - be replicated up and down the country — be replicated up and down the country. there _ be replicated up and down the country. there should - be replicated up and down the country. there should be - be replicated up and down thei country. there should be much be replicated up and down the - country. there should be much more work— country. there should be much more work done _ country. there should be much more work done internally— country. there should be much more work done internally about _ country. there should be much more work done internally about how- work done internally about how police — work done internally about how police respond _ work done internally about how police respond to _ work done internally about how police respond to women - work done internally about how. police respond to women making complaints— police respond to women making complaints about _ police respond to women making complaints about things - police respond to women making complaints about things that - police respond to women making complaints about things that are | complaints about things that are happening — complaints about things that are happening to _ complaints about things that are happening to them, _ complaints about things that are happening to them, because - complaints about things that are i happening to them, because often complaints about things that are - happening to them, because often you see there _ happening to them, because often you see there is _ happening to them, because often you see there is a — happening to them, because often you see there is a continuum _ happening to them, because often you see there is a continuum between - see there is a continuum between very many— see there is a continuum between very many of— see there is a continuum between very many of what _ see there is a continuum between very many of what is _ see there is a continuum between very many of what is seen - see there is a continuum between very many of what is seen as - see there is a continuum between very many of what is seen as very| very many of what is seen as very low level— very many of what is seen as very low level crime _ very many of what is seen as very low level crime with _ very many of what is seen as very low level crime with then - very many of what is seen as very low level crime with then the - very many of what is seen as very. low level crime with then the much more _ low level crime with then the much more grievous— low level crime with then the much more grievous kind _ low level crime with then the much more grievous kind of— low level crime with then the much more grievous kind of crime, - low level crime with then the much i more grievous kind of crime, because often _ more grievous kind of crime, because often things _ more grievous kind of crime, because often things start _ more grievous kind of crime, because often things start with _ more grievous kind of crime, because often things start with this _ more grievous kind of crime, because often things start with this kind - more grievous kind of crime, because often things start with this kind of- often things start with this kind of low level— often things start with this kind of low level lashing, _ often things start with this kind of low level lashing, being _ often things start with this kind of low level lashing, being abusive l often things start with this kind ofi low level lashing, being abusive to women _ low level lashing, being abusive to women in — low level lashing, being abusive to women in public— low level lashing, being abusive to women in public spaces, _ low level lashing, being abusive to women in public spaces, feeling i low level lashing, being abusive to. women in public spaces, feeling you can get— women in public spaces, feeling you can get away— women in public spaces, feeling you can get away with _ women in public spaces, feeling you can get away with it _ women in public spaces, feeling you can get away with it and _ women in public spaces, feeling you can get away with it and you - women in public spaces, feeling you can get away with it and you are - can get away with it and you are entitled — can get away with it and you are entitled to — can get away with it and you are entitled to do _ can get away with it and you are entitled to do that. _ can get away with it and you are entitled to do that. i'm - can get away with it and you are entitled to do that. i'm afraid i can get away with it and you are| entitled to do that. i'm afraid we have _ entitled to do that. i'm afraid we have to — entitled to do that. i'm afraid we have to be — entitled to do that. i'm afraid we have to be looking _ entitled to do that. i'm afraid we have to be looking at _ entitled to do that. i'm afraid we have to be looking at male - entitled to do that. i'm afraid we - have to be looking at male behaviour more _ have to be looking at male behaviour more generally _ have to be looking at male behaviour more generally. but _ have to be looking at male behaviour more generally. but the _ have to be looking at male behaviour more generally. but the police - more generally. but the police certainly— more generally. but the police certainly have _ more generally. but the police certainly have to _ more generally. but the police certainly have to be _ more generally. but the police certainly have to be taking - more generally. but the police - certainly have to be taking women's complaints— certainly have to be taking women's complaints more _ certainly have to be taking women's complaints more seriously- certainly have to be taking women's complaints more seriously than - certainly have to be taking women's| complaints more seriously than they have done — complaints more seriously than they have done this— complaints more seriously than they have done. this has— complaints more seriously than they have done. this has been— complaints more seriously than they have done. this has been going - complaints more seriously than they have done. this has been going on i have done. this has been going on for years— have done. this has been going on for years and — have done. this has been going on for years and i'm _ have done. this has been going on for years and i'm tired _ have done. this has been going on for years and i'm tired of— have done. this has been going on for years and i'm tired of hearing i for years and i'm tired of hearing police _ for years and i'm tired of hearing police forces _ for years and i'm tired of hearing police forces saying _ for years and i'm tired of hearing police forces saying they - for years and i'm tired of hearing police forces saying they are - for years and i'm tired of hearing i police forces saying they are going to learnt _ police forces saying they are going to learnt lessons _ police forces saying they are going to learnt lessons from _ police forces saying they are going to learnt lessons from some - police forces saying they are going i to learnt lessons from some tragedy. the lessons _ to learnt lessons from some tragedy. the lessons don't _ to learnt lessons from some tragedy. the lessons don't seem _ to learnt lessons from some tragedy. the lessons don't seem to _ to learnt lessons from some tragedy. the lessons don't seem to be - the lessons don't seem to be learned, _ the lessons don't seem to be learned, and _ the lessons don't seem to be learned, and the _ the lessons don't seem to be learned, and the lessons - the lessons don't seem to be learned, and the lessons are| the lessons don't seem to be - learned, and the lessons are that women's — learned, and the lessons are that women's suffering _ learned, and the lessons are that women's suffering of _ learned, and the lessons are that women's suffering of this - learned, and the lessons are that women's suffering of this kind . learned, and the lessons are that women's suffering of this kind of| women's suffering of this kind of stuff— women's suffering of this kind of stuff has — women's suffering of this kind of stuff has to— women's suffering of this kind of stuff has to stop, _ women's suffering of this kind of stuff has to stop, and _ women's suffering of this kind of stuff has to stop, and women . women's suffering of this kind of stuff has to stop, and women upj women's suffering of this kind of- stuff has to stop, and women up and down _ stuff has to stop, and women up and down the _ stuff has to stop, and women up and down the country— stuff has to stop, and women up and down the country are _ stuff has to stop, and women up and down the country are saying - stuff has to stop, and women up and down the country are saying that. . down the country are saying that. and you _ down the country are saying that. and you have _ down the country are saying that. and you have to _ down the country are saying that. and you have to listen. _ down the country are saying that. and you have to listen. police - and you have to listen. police forces — and you have to listen. police forces are _ and you have to listen. police forces are not _ and you have to listen. police forces are not doing - and you have to listen. police forces are not doing that. - and you have to listen. police forces are not doing that. it i and you have to listen. police l forces are not doing that. it has and you have to listen. police - forces are not doing that. it has to be listened — forces are not doing that. it has to be listened at _ forces are not doing that. it has to be listened at a _ forces are not doing that. it has to be listened at a lower— forces are not doing that. it has to be listened at a lower level, - forces are not doing that. it has to be listened at a lower level, and l be listened at a lower level, and i'm sorry— be listened at a lower level, and i'm sorry that— be listened at a lower level, and i'm sorry that means _ be listened at a lower level, and i'm sorry that means resourcingl be listened at a lower level, and - i'm sorry that means resourcing and more _ i'm sorry that means resourcing and more police — i'm sorry that means resourcing and more police available _ i'm sorry that means resourcing and more police available and _ i'm sorry that means resourcing and more police available and more - i'm sorry that means resourcing and i more police available and more money put more police available and more money but into— more police available and more money put into policing — more police available and more money put into policing and _ more police available and more money put into policing and the _ more police available and more money put into policing and the court - put into policing and the court system — put into policing and the court system but _ put into policing and the court system. but we _ put into policing and the court system. but we also - put into policing and the court system. but we also have - put into policing and the court system. but we also have to i put into policing and the court - system. but we also have to have much _ system. but we also have to have much better— system. but we also have to have much better processes _ system. but we also have to have much better processes of - system. but we also have to have much better processes of trainingj much better processes of training police _ much better processes of training police and — much better processes of training police and those _ much better processes of training police and those in _ much better processes of training police and those in the _ much better processes of training police and those in the justice - police and those in the justice system — police and those in the justice system i— police and those in the justice system i do— police and those in the justice system. i do think _ police and those in the justice system. i do think we - police and those in the justice system. i do think we are - police and those in the justicel system. i do think we are tired police and those in the justice - system. i do think we are tired of hearing _ system. i do think we are tired of hearing this — system. i do think we are tired of hearing this stuff _ system. i do think we are tired of hearing this stuff about _ system. i do think we are tired of hearing this stuff about lessons. i hearing this stuff about lessons. and i— hearing this stuff about lessons. and i was— hearing this stuff about lessons. and i was rather— hearing this stuff about lessons. and i was rather sad _ hearing this stuff about lessons. and i was rather sad to - hearing this stuff about lessons. and i was rather sad to hear- hearing this stuff about lessons. i and i was rather sad to hear police being _ and i was rather sad to hear police being rolled — and i was rather sad to hear police being rolled out, _ and i was rather sad to hear police being rolled out, saying _ and i was rather sad to hear police being rolled out, saying we - and i was rather sad to hear police being rolled out, saying we are - being rolled out, saying we are doing _ being rolled out, saying we are doing a — being rolled out, saying we are doing a fantastic— being rolled out, saying we are doing a fantasticjob. _ being rolled out, saying we are doing a fantasticjob. yes, - being rolled out, saying we arej doing a fantasticjob. yes, they are, _ doing a fantasticjob. yes, they are on— doing a fantasticjob. yes, they are on many— doing a fantasticjob. yes, they are, on many fronts, _ doing a fantasticjob. yes, they are, on many fronts, but- doing a fantasticjob. yes, they are, on many fronts, but on- doing a fantasticjob. yes, they. are, on many fronts, but on some fronts _ are, on many fronts, but on some fronts they— are, on many fronts, but on some fronts they are _ are, on many fronts, but on some fronts they are not. _ are, on many fronts, but on some fronts they are not. when - are, on many fronts, but on some fronts they are not. when it - are, on many fronts, but on some i fronts they are not. when it comes to women— fronts they are not. when it comes to women and _ fronts they are not. when it comes to women and girls _ fronts they are not. when it comes to women and girls they— fronts they are not. when it comes to women and girls they are - fronts they are not. when it comes to women and girls they are not i to women and girls they are not doing _ to women and girls they are not doing a — to women and girls they are not doing a terrific— to women and girls they are not doing a terrificjob _ to women and girls they are not doing a terrificjob and - to women and girls they are not doing a terrificjob and we - to women and girls they are not doing a terrificjob and we have| to women and girls they are not i doing a terrificjob and we have to doing a terrificjob and we have to do something _ doing a terrificjob and we have to do something about _ doing a terrificjob and we have to do something about it. _ doing a terrificjob and we have to do something about it. and - doing a terrificjob and we have to do something about it. and that i do something about it. and that means— do something about it. and that means looking _ do something about it. and that means looking at _ do something about it. and that means looking at what - do something about it. and that means looking at what is - do something about it. and that - means looking at what is happening internally— means looking at what is happening internally as — means looking at what is happening internally as well— means looking at what is happening internally as well as _ means looking at what is happening internally as well as externally. - internally as well as externally. the metropolitan _ internally as well as externally. the metropolitan police, - internally as well as externally. the metropolitan police, the i the metropolitan police, the government, all saying in the last 48 hours, this is a moment where things will change, this is the moment when things will get fixed. it sounds to me like you don't believe that.— it sounds to me like you don't believe that. ~ :, , :, :, :, believe that. well, i hope that good intent will be _ believe that. well, i hope that good intent will be moved _ believe that. well, i hope that good intent will be moved into _ believe that. well, i hope that good intent will be moved into practice. i intent will be moved into practice. what _ intent will be moved into practice. what we _ intent will be moved into practice. what we want _ intent will be moved into practice. what we want to _ intent will be moved into practice. what we want to hear— intent will be moved into practice. what we want to hear is _ intent will be moved into practice. what we want to hear is that - intent will be moved into practice. | what we want to hear is that there is what we want to hear is that there is actually— what we want to hear is that there is actually going _ what we want to hear is that there is actually going to _ what we want to hear is that there is actually going to be _ what we want to hear is that there is actually going to be someone i what we want to hear is that therei is actually going to be someone put in is actually going to be someone put in charge _ is actually going to be someone put in charge of— is actually going to be someone put in charge of dealing _ is actually going to be someone put in charge of dealing with _ is actually going to be someone put in charge of dealing with this. - is actually going to be someone put in charge of dealing with this. it's i in charge of dealing with this. it's a bit _ in charge of dealing with this. it's a bit like — in charge of dealing with this. it's a bit like government, _ in charge of dealing with this. it's a bit like government, they- in charge of dealing with this. it'si a bit like government, they always have a _ a bit like government, they always have a women's _ a bit like government, they always have a women's minister, - a bit like government, they always have a women's minister, but - a bit like government, they always have a women's minister, but she| a bit like government, they always. have a women's minister, but she is attached _ have a women's minister, but she is attached to — have a women's minister, but she is attached to many— have a women's minister, but she is attached to many other— have a women's minister, but she is attached to many otherjobs. - have a women's minister, but she is attached to many otherjobs. let's i attached to many otherjobs. let's have _ attached to many otherjobs. let's have some — attached to many otherjobs. let's have some concentration- attached to many otherjobs. let's have some concentration on- attached to many otherjobs. let's have some concentration on this i have some concentration on this issue _ have some concentration on this issue because _ have some concentration on this issue because women _ have some concentration on this issue because women are - have some concentration on this issue because women are reallyl have some concentration on this - issue because women are really tired of this— issue because women are really tired of this and _ issue because women are really tired of this and they — issue because women are really tired of this and they know— issue because women are really tired of this and they know and _ issue because women are really tired of this and they know and they - issue because women are really tired of this and they know and they ask. of this and they know and they ask why there — of this and they know and they ask why there is — of this and they know and they ask why there is no _ of this and they know and they ask why there is no confidence. - of this and they know and they ask why there is no confidence. whenl why there is no confidence. when complaints— why there is no confidence. when complaints are _ why there is no confidence. when complaints are made, _ why there is no confidence. when complaints are made, the - why there is no confidence. when complaints are made, the fear. why there is no confidence. when. complaints are made, the fear they are made _ complaints are made, the fear they are made to — complaints are made, the fear they are made to experience _ complaints are made, the fear they are made to experience in- complaints are made, the fear they are made to experience in public. are made to experience in public places. — are made to experience in public places. why— are made to experience in public places, why should _ are made to experience in public places, why should mothers - are made to experience in publici places, why should mothers have are made to experience in public. places, why should mothers have to tell their— places, why should mothers have to tell their daughters _ places, why should mothers have to tell their daughters when _ places, why should mothers have to tell their daughters when they- places, why should mothers have toj tell their daughters when they reach puberty— tell their daughters when they reach puberty that — tell their daughters when they reach puberty that they _ tell their daughters when they reach puberty that they have _ tell their daughters when they reach puberty that they have to _ tell their daughters when they reach puberty that they have to be - tell their daughters when they reach puberty that they have to be careful| puberty that they have to be careful going _ puberty that they have to be careful going out _ puberty that they have to be careful going out and — puberty that they have to be careful going out and about, _ puberty that they have to be careful going out and about, that— puberty that they have to be careful going out and about, that it - puberty that they have to be careful going out and about, that it is - going out and about, that it is passed — going out and about, that it is passed on— going out and about, that it is passed on like _ going out and about, that it is passed on like some - going out and about, that it is passed on like some ritual- going out and about, that it is . passed on like some ritual telling people _ passed on like some ritual telling people the — passed on like some ritual telling people the facts _ passed on like some ritual telling people the facts of— passed on like some ritual telling people the facts of life, - passed on like some ritual telling people the facts of life, the - passed on like some ritual telling people the facts of life, the facts| people the facts of life, the facts of life _ people the facts of life, the facts of life that — people the facts of life, the facts of life that they— people the facts of life, the facts of life that they are _ people the facts of life, the facts of life that they are going - people the facts of life, the facts of life that they are going to - people the facts of life, the facts of life that they are going to be i of life that they are going to be exposed — of life that they are going to be exposed to— of life that they are going to be exposed to this _ of life that they are going to be exposed to this kind _ of life that they are going to be exposed to this kind of- of life that they are going to be exposed to this kind of abusive| exposed to this kind of abusive behaviour _ exposed to this kind of abusive behaviour. it _ exposed to this kind of abusive behaviour. it has _ exposed to this kind of abusive behaviour. it has to _ exposed to this kind of abusive behaviour. it has to stop - exposed to this kind of abusive behaviour. it has to stop and i exposed to this kind of abusive. behaviour. it has to stop and we have _ behaviour. it has to stop and we have to — behaviour. it has to stop and we have to be — behaviour. it has to stop and we have to be having _ behaviour. it has to stop and we have to be having better- have to be having better conversations _ have to be having better conversations among. have to be having better. conversations among men, have to be having better- conversations among men, and have to be having better— conversations among men, and men have to _ conversations among men, and men have to take — conversations among men, and men have to take responsibility _ conversations among men, and men have to take responsibility for - conversations among men, and men have to take responsibility for somel have to take responsibility for some of this— have to take responsibility for some of this because _ have to take responsibility for some of this because in _ have to take responsibility for some of this because in the _ have to take responsibility for some of this because in the daily- have to take responsibility for some of this because in the daily round i of this because in the daily round women _ of this because in the daily round women experience _ of this because in the daily round women experience harassment, i women experience harassment, stalking. — women experience harassment, stalking. people _ women experience harassment, stalking, people flashing - women experience harassment, stalking, people flashing at - women experience harassment, i stalking, people flashing at them. it really— stalking, people flashing at them. it really has — stalking, people flashing at them. it really has to _ stalking, people flashing at them. it really has to end _ stalking, people flashing at them. it really has to end at _ stalking, people flashing at them. it really has to end at the - stalking, people flashing at them. it really has to end at the police i it really has to end at the police have _ it really has to end at the police have to — it really has to end at the police have to take _ it really has to end at the police have to take it _ it really has to end at the police have to take it seriously- it really has to end at the police have to take it seriously and - it really has to end at the police j have to take it seriously and not see it _ have to take it seriously and not see it as — have to take it seriously and not see it as being _ have to take it seriously and not see it as being trivial. _ have to take it seriously and not see it as being trivial. that- have to take it seriously and not see it as being trivial. that is. have to take it seriously and noti see it as being trivial. that is the worst— see it as being trivial. that is the worst thing — see it as being trivial. that is the worst thing that _ see it as being trivial. that is the worst thing that comes _ see it as being trivial. that is the worst thing that comes out - see it as being trivial. that is the worst thing that comes out of. see it as being trivial. that is the i worst thing that comes out of this. he was— worst thing that comes out of this. he was a _ worst thing that comes out of this. he was a man _ worst thing that comes out of this. he was a man who _ worst thing that comes out of this. he was a man who already - worst thing that comes out of this. he was a man who already had - worst thing that comes out of this. | he was a man who already had sent out alarm _ he was a man who already had sent out alarm signals _ he was a man who already had sent out alarm signals to _ he was a man who already had sent out alarm signals to colleagues, - he was a man who already had senti out alarm signals to colleagues, who had already— out alarm signals to colleagues, who had already been _ out alarm signals to colleagues, who had already been on _ out alarm signals to colleagues, who had already been on the _ out alarm signals to colleagues, who had already been on the enquiry- out alarm signals to colleagues, who had already been on the enquiry listi had already been on the enquiry list in had already been on the enquiry list in relation _ had already been on the enquiry list in relation to — had already been on the enquiry list in relation to flashing _ had already been on the enquiry list in relation to flashing behaviour, i in relation to flashing behaviour, and yet — in relation to flashing behaviour, and yet the — in relation to flashing behaviour, and yet the police _ in relation to flashing behaviour, and yet the police somehow - in relation to flashing behaviour, and yet the police somehow are| and yet the police somehow are forgiving — and yet the police somehow are forgiving of _ and yet the police somehow are forgiving of that. _ and yet the police somehow are forgiving of that. none - and yet the police somehow are forgiving of that. none of- and yet the police somehow are forgiving of that. none of it- and yet the police somehow are forgiving of that. none of it is. forgiving of that. none of it is acceptable _ forgiving of that. none of it is acceptable. what— forgiving of that. none of it is acceptable. what we - forgiving of that. none of it is acceptable. what we know i forgiving of that. none of it is acceptable. what we know is| forgiving of that. none of it is- acceptable. what we know is that institutions — acceptable. what we know is that institutions often _ acceptable. what we know is that institutions often put _ acceptable. what we know is that institutions often put their - acceptable. what we know is that institutions often put their own i institutions often put their own reputations _ institutions often put their own reputations first, _ institutions often put their own reputations first, they- institutions often put their own reputations first, they also - institutions often put their own i reputations first, they also come together— reputations first, they also come together to — reputations first, they also come together to protect _ reputations first, they also come together to protect each - reputations first, they also come together to protect each other. i reputations first, they also come i together to protect each other. this has got _ together to protect each other. this has got to— together to protect each other. this has got to end _ together to protect each other. this has got to end. you _ together to protect each other. this has got to end. you know, - together to protect each other. this has got to end. you know, so - together to protect each other. this has got to end. you know, so we i together to protect each other. this . has got to end. you know, so we have to look_ has got to end. you know, so we have to look internally _ has got to end. you know, so we have to look internally inside _ has got to end. you know, so we have to look internally inside the _ has got to end. you know, so we have to look internally inside the police - to look internally inside the police about _ to look internally inside the police about all— to look internally inside the police about all of— to look internally inside the police about all of this, _ to look internally inside the police about all of this, and _ to look internally inside the police about all of this, and if _ to look internally inside the police about all of this, and if cressida . about all of this, and if cressida dick_ about all of this, and if cressida dick realty— about all of this, and if cressida dick really wants _ about all of this, and if cressida dick really wants to _ about all of this, and if cressida dick really wants to do - about all of this, and if cressida l dick really wants to do something about— dick really wants to do something about this, — dick really wants to do something about this, she _ dick really wants to do something about this, she should _ dick really wants to do something about this, she should get - dick really wants to do something about this, she should get sue i dick really wants to do something. about this, she should get sue fisch in to talk— about this, she should get sue fisch in to talk about _ about this, she should get sue fisch in to talk about what _ about this, she should get sue fisch in to talk about what she _ about this, she should get sue fisch in to talk about what she did - about this, she should get sue fisch in to talk about what she did in - in to talk about what she did in nottingham _ in to talk about what she did in nottingham and _ in to talk about what she did in nottingham and that _ in to talk about what she did in nottingham and that should i in to talk about what she did ini nottingham and that should be in to talk about what she did in - nottingham and that should be rolled out across _ nottingham and that should be rolled out across the — nottingham and that should be rolled out across the country. _ nottingham and that should be rolled out across the country. this - nottingham and that should be rolled out across the country. this is - out across the country. this is serious — out across the country. this is serious and _ out across the country. this is serious and women _ out across the country. this is serious and women have - out across the country. this is serious and women have said| out across the country. this is - serious and women have said enough. something _ serious and women have said enough. something has— serious and women have said enough. something has to _ serious and women have said enough. something has to be _ serious and women have said enough. something has to be done. _ serious and women have said enough. something has to be done. thank- serious and women have said enough. something has to be done.— something has to be done. thank you both very much _ something has to be done. thank you both very much indeed _ something has to be done. thank you both very much indeed for _ something has to be done. thank you both very much indeed forjoining - something has to be done. thank you both very much indeed forjoining us i both very much indeed forjoining us on brexit full —— breakfast. irate both very much indeed for 'oining us on brexit full -- breakfast.- on brexit full -- breakfast. we will be talkin: on brexit full -- breakfast. we will be talking about _ on brexit full -- breakfast. we will be talking about those _ on brexit full -- breakfast. we will be talking about those issues - on brexit full -- breakfast. we will be talking about those issues with | be talking about those issues with the health secretary in about ten minutes. matt has the weather for us this morning. morning, matt. that is a lovely picture. berwick—upon—tweed is a beautiful place. a bright start across many northern and eastern areas. this is what is heading the way for most. icy is also raining heavily in parts of devon. quite a soggy saturday on the way. some strong winds, especially for south—east england. tomorrow, a bit more sunshine around, a scattering of showers, and icy is the far north of scotland where we could see potential impact on the strength of the wind. let's deal with what is out there at the moment. icy is raining quite heavily down here. icy extends into wales. erratic across southern scotland at the moment. icy will turn wetter in northern england. much of england and wales will see rain advance from the south—east, reaching those eastern coasts not until the early parts of the afternoon. when the rain set in, for some of you icy will be heavy, brightening up towards the far west in the afternoon. northern ireland not doing too badly. largely dry to the north of scotland. this afternoon, the strongest of winds will be rattling windows down across the south west of england. 40—60 mph. batches of heavy showers working into western wales and parts of north—west england. stays bright in the far north of scotland. through tonight, the rain and the wind will be coming to the north of scotland, just a few showers elsewhere. a mild night, too. the just a few showers elsewhere. a mild niaht, too. ., , just a few showers elsewhere. a mild niht, too. ., ,f~ gunge, slime, phone—ins, pop stars, it has been parts of tv saturday mornings for decades. it all began 45 years ago today, when noel edmonds first presented the multi coloured swap shop and though presenters and programmes have changed through the years it's continually kept young ones amused. if you fancy a trip down memory lane, hayley hassall has been taking a look back through the archives. it was 1976, concord made its first nonstop flight across the atlantic. brotherhood of man won the european song contest. after a hard week at school, children's weekends started to look a whole lot brighter. presenter noel edmonds was joined by john craven and keith chegwin, alongside celebrity guests, a child audience, and a dinosaur. it was the first time that children had been given the chance to interact with television. they could call up a pop star, write to the presenters and join a club of their very own. in 1977, keith, noeland john join a club of their very own. in 1977, keith, noel and john were 1977, keith, noeland john were joined by 1977, keith, noel and john were joined by the e—mail presenter maggie. i joined by the e-mail presenter mar uie. , . ., maggie. i never expected to get it. this is my first _ maggie. i never expected to get it. this is my first job. _ maggie. i never expected to get it. this is my first job. i _ maggie. i never expected to get it. this is my first job. i was _ this is my firstjob. i was absolutely thrilled, but also completely terrified, because i had absolutely zero experience. i think that ignorance was bliss back in the day. that ignorance was bliss back in the day~ wherr— that ignorance was bliss back in the day~ when i— that ignorance was bliss back in the day. when i was doing a swap shop, there _ day. when i was doing a swap shop, there were — day. when i was doing a swap shop, there were only three television channels — there were only three television channels. and that meant that the immediacy— channels. and that meant that the immediacy of your contact with mittiohs— immediacy of your contact with millions of children and adults was absotute~ — millions of children and adults was absolute. ., . . millions of children and adults was absolute. ,, . , ,, ., , . , millions of children and adults was absolute. ,, ., , ,, ., , ., , ., , absolute. swap shop was initially lanned absolute. swap shop was initially planned for _ absolute. swap shop was initially planned forjust _ absolute. swap shop was initially planned forjust 12 _ absolute. swap shop was initially planned forjust 12 weeks, - absolute. swap shop was initially planned forjust 12 weeks, but. planned forjust 12 weeks, but continue to keep kids hooked for six years. after swap shop became the saturday superstore. in 1987 came going live with phillip schofield and sarah greene. and then live and kicking, tmi and the saturday show. and it's that childlike fund that perhaps lowered some of the biggest stars and the world's most important people onto saturday morning live tv, but they maybe didn't expect the unpredictability of working with children. it unpredictability of working with children. . unpredictability of working with children. , . ~ children. if there is a new killer war, children. if there is a new killer war. where _ children. if there is a new killer war, where will— children. if there is a new killer war, where will you _ children. if there is a new killer war, where will you be? - children. if there is a new killer war, where will you be? my - children. if there is a new killer- war, where will you be? my goodness me. it war, where will you be? my goodness me- it gave — war, where will you be? my goodness me. it gave children _ war, where will you be? my goodness me. it gave children a _ war, where will you be? my goodness me. it gave children a voice _ war, where will you be? my goodness me. it gave children a voice for - war, where will you be? my goodness me. it gave children a voice for the i me. it gave children a voice for the first time. they will you be? my goodness me. it gave children a voice for the first time. they were listened to. and the national press wanted to hear what they had to say. if you look at the similarities between all of these shows through all of the years, from fully booked to life and cooking to swap shop, i think they were putting the kids first. there's always a place for at live shows, always a place for watching something at the same time as everyone else, i think that will never go. as everyone else, i think that will never co. ~ ., as everyone else, i think that will never no. a, ., as everyone else, i think that will never .0_ ., , ., , never go. move on 45 years, children's — never go. move on 45 years, children's tv _ never go. move on 45 years, children's tv runs _ never go. move on 45 years, children's tv runs seven - never go. move on 45 years, | children's tv runs seven days never go. move on 45 years, i children's tv runs seven days a week, 2a hours a day, but you will still find the presenters doing just what they did 45 years ago, hair raising challenges, cute animals, and a puppet. can you tell me what you brought to children's tv? i you brought to children's tv? i brought a small orange you brought to children's tv? i brought a small orange yellow monster, a bit of unpredictability. i do like saturday morning television.— i do like saturday morning television. ., , ,,. , television. hello, people! stanley, i've not a television. hello, people! stanley, i've got a prize. — television. hello, people! stanley, i've got a prize, because _ television. hello, people! stanley, i've got a prize, because there - television. hello, people! stanley, i've got a prize, because there is l television. hello, people! stanley, i've got a prize, because there is a j i've got a prize, because there is a bit of a celebrity here right now. i'd like to introduce you to gordon the gopher. i'd like to introduce you to gordon the gamer-— i'd like to introduce you to gordon the gopher. oh, yeah. really, how much? obviously _ the gopher. oh, yeah. really, how much? obviously you _ the gopher. oh, yeah. really, how much? obviously you have - the gopher. oh, yeah. really, how much? obviously you have been i the gopher. oh, yeah. really, how| much? obviously you have been on children's tv _ much? obviously you have been on children's tv for _ much? obviously you have been on children's tv for many _ much? obviously you have been on children's tv for many years - much? obviously you have been on children's tv for many years now, i children's tv for many years now, how has it been for you? great. not all of life children's television makes sense, but one thing is for sure, saturday morning tv always seem to end with something like this. . ~ seem to end with something like this. . ,, , ., seem to end with something like this. . ~ , ., and seem to end with something like this-_ and it _ seem to end with something like this._ and it always i seem to end with something like i this._ and it always will, this. thank you. and it always will, ha le . that was hayley hassall reporting. great to see gordon the gopher is still alive, great to see gordon the gopher is stillalive, isn't great to see gordon the gopher is still alive, isn't it?— we're joined now by harpz kaur and joe taskerfrom the saturday mash up studio. you look back at children's tv, and having known what saturday mashup is like, i wouldn't even say it is organised chaos. it’s like, i wouldn't even say it is organised chaos.— organised chaos. it's never organised- _ organised chaos. it's never organised. never, - organised chaos. it's never organised. never, never. l organised chaos. it's never. organised. never, never. it's organised chaos. it's never- organised. never, never. it'sjust organised. never, never. it's 'ust ure organised. never, never. it's 'ust pure cam �* organised. never, never. it's 'ust pure chaos. you i organised. never, never. it's 'ust pure chaos. you can i organised. never, never. it's 'ust pure chaos. you can see how organised. never, never. it'sjust. pure chaos. you can see how much organised. never, never. it'sjust- pure chaos. you can see how much it has evolved over the years. we go through it a little bit, don't we? but it is just knowing where to stand. but it is 'ust knowing where to stand. ~ . , ., , stand. we get a couple of minutes 'ust to stand. we get a couple of minutes just to look _ stand. we get a couple of minutes just to look over _ stand. we get a couple of minutes just to look over everything. i stand. we get a couple of minutes| just to look over everything. where we are _ just to look over everything. where we are standing, where everything is positioned _ we are standing, where everything is ositioned. . ., , . . positioned. favourite bit, chaos. listen, positioned. favourite bit, chaos. listen. there _ positioned. favourite bit, chaos. listen, there are _ positioned. favourite bit, chaos. listen, there are also _ positioned. favourite bit, chaos. listen, there are also the - positioned. favourite bit, chaos. i listen, there are also the moments that lots of parents up and down the country have thought... the pressure on you to entertain children, and bearin on you to entertain children, and bear in mind are so many parents have been traumatised with home—schooling, there is a lot of pressure to keep the variety and the pace up but also do some good. yeah. pace up but also do some good. yeah, there is a lot — pace up but also do some good. yeah, there is a lot of _ pace up but also do some good. yeah, there is a lot of pressure. _ pace up but also do some good. yeah, there is a lot of pressure. but - pace up but also do some good. yeah, there is a lot of pressure. but with i there is a lot of pressure. but with that comes everyone's hard work and effort. especially how we have adapted, with home—school learning. we had a summer mashup. we have lots of different games, lots of celebs, and hopefully kids are returning in the studio. find and hopefully kids are returning in the studio. �* and hopefully kids are returning in the studio. . . . the studio. and the adrenaline, i think the adrenaline _ the studio. and the adrenaline, i think the adrenaline rush - the studio. and the adrenaline, i think the adrenaline rush does . the studio. and the adrenaline, i i think the adrenaline rush does not stop stop — think the adrenaline rush does not stop stop you don't even think about anything _ stop stop you don't even think about anything else, do you? it is so fast paced _ anything else, do you? it is so fast aced. , , ., , ., paced. definitely no lie ins. you are child care _ paced. definitely no lie ins. you are child care for— paced. definitely no lie ins. you are child care for the _ paced. definitely no lie ins. you are child care for the nation, i paced. definitely no lie ins. you i are child care for the nation, every saturday morning. your cameraman is very active, isn't he? he’s saturday morning. your cameraman is very active, isn't he?— very active, isn't he? he's in his element here, _ very active, isn't he? he's in his element here, in _ very active, isn't he? he's in his element here, in the _ very active, isn't he? he's in his element here, in the studio. i i very active, isn't he? he's in his i element here, in the studio. i think we need to — element here, in the studio. i think we need to do _ element here, in the studio. i think we need to do that _ element here, in the studio. i think we need to do that here _ element here, in the studio. i think we need to do that here in - element here, in the studio. i think we need to do that here in the i element here, in the studio. i think. we need to do that here in the music studio. when he does the camera work for that, studio. when he does the camera work forthat, he studio. when he does the camera work for that, he is never that likely? tell me, wejust for that, he is never that likely? tell me, we just looked for that, he is never that likely? tell me, wejust looked back for that, he is never that likely? tell me, we just looked back there to swap shop that we were reminiscing about. you are male is younger than us, but how aware are younger than us, but how aware are you of that heritage that you are a part of when you are part of mashup? watching that back has brought back so nrany _ watching that back has brought back so many memories. i have grown up watching _ so many memories. i have grown up watching things like live and kicking. _ watching things like live and kicking, and even though, like we've mentioned, — kicking, and even though, like we've mentioned, kids tv started 45 years a-o, mentioned, kids tv started 45 years ago. we _ mentioned, kids tv started 45 years ago. we are — mentioned, kids tv started 45 years ago, we are still trying our best. carry— ago, we are still trying our best. carry it — ago, we are still trying our best. carry it on — ago, we are still trying our best. carry it on. not a lot has changed, but i _ carry it on. not a lot has changed, but i think— carry it on. not a lot has changed, but i think we are very fast paced, there _ but i think we are very fast paced, there are — but i think we are very fast paced, there are so — but i think we are very fast paced, there are so many ways to connect with people now, we are interacting in so _ with people now, we are interacting in so many— with people now, we are interacting in so many different ways, we have technology... in so many different ways, we have technology- - -_ technology... lots of viewers can aet technology... lots of viewers can get involved. _ technology... 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mike will have the sport later with lots of big matches coming up, and previewing the marathon. a far—ranging review of health and social care in england is being launched by the government to ensure investment is used effectively and to reduce regional disparities in health outcomes. we can speak now to the health secretary sajid javid who joins us from our london newsroom. good morning. thanks for coming along. it sounds like this is what levelling up in the health department as you would say, but a sad reflection this reorganisation is needed. i think we all agree the last 18 months the nhs and care has seen the most challenging time in living memory and i am full of praise for everyone who has worked in health and care in that period. we are supporting recovery with a record investment, the biggest the nhs and care has seen and i want to make sure every penny counts which is what this review is about. a leadership review, led by sir gordon messenger, to make sure when we look to the future and that investment in the nhs that we recognise the nhs has some of the best people working in it across the country and some phenomenal leaders but to look at how we can replicate that leadership across the nhs so every patient is getting the best care. can we talk about vaccinations, we heard from bbc breakfast viewers, people who are sick and immunosuppressed desperate for the booster jab, immunosuppressed desperate for the boosterjab, saying there are long delays, they haven't been invited and are worried when it will happen. how do you reassure them this is in hand? ican hand? i can say those jabs have started together with boosters yesterday announced as being 860,000, but in terms of the people specifically referred to who are immunosuppressed and particularly vulnerable, they have been prioritised, and the nhs through gp networks are reaching out to each one to make sure they will get their offer of the jab and the vast majority have. but i am told by the nhs is over the next seven days they will make sure every single person has been contacted and given the opportunity to come in and get their third jab. that will happen in the next week. it is already happening but it will be complete. the story on the front of the sun newspaper reporting five england football players have not had a jab, refusing to be jabbed, what does that do to your overall message about the importance of immunisation because these guys are role models for younger people and we know younger people, the immunisation rates have stalled. first, the good news is overall our vaccination programme, the big wall of the fence we have built has been phenomenally successful, over 90% of people with one jab, more than 80% of adults with double jabs which is fantastic by any standard. as you say, there are still some people, i estimate over 5,000,000 people, i estimate over 5,000,000 people across the uk, who have not had a single jab, and what i would say to those people is, if you are eligible for a jab, you should come forward. it doesn'tjust protect you, it also helps protect others and your loved ones. it is about your community, society, helping to protect each other, making sure we can keep this virus at bay. it doesn't matter if you are a celebrity footballer, whoever you are, the jab is for everyone to help you and your community. can i talk to you in your former role as home secretary. the case of sarah everard has caused so much shock across the whole country this week. the prime minister went on tv last night and had to tell women they should be able to trust the police. you conservatives have always claimed to be the party of law and order, when your prime minister howes to go on telly and tell women they can trust the police, something has gone badly wrong on your watch. i think we can all understand the reaction of the whole country to this appalling case and what has happened to sarah everard and i am sure all our thoughts are still with family and friends. the way i see it is this especially as a former home secretary. i was able as home secretary. i was able as home secretary to see the police working up secretary to see the police working up close and i saw the fantastic work then police do to protect us, the lives they save on a daily basis. it is precisely for that reason that we were all shocked by what happened to sarah everard. it is not anything anyone would associate with an organisation that is there to protect us. we do need to learn from that. the police themselves, the metropolitian police has said about the reforms they will be looking at, it is absolutely right. and we need to look at what more government can do to build confidence, building on the strategy published in summer. this is an appalling and shocking case. we must make sure at least something comes out of this is that we can give more confidence to more women about their own safety. you have spoken publicly in the past, you have teenage daughters, what do you say to them when this comes up at the breakfast table this morning, they are asking, can i trust the police? like any other parents, i would reassure them, two of my teenage daughters are in london and they, like any other person but especially young women after this tragedy, are asking lots of questions. i am lucky to have members of my own family in the police, my daughters have got two know them as well. they would know like we hope you all know, that on a daily basis, the police are out there helping us, saving lives. i will never forget the day i went to the bravery awards and learned about the bravery awards and learned about the huge acts of bravery by police, this happens all the time. we must learn from this horrific case and it has rightly shocked the whole nation, it has shocked me hearing about this, because in my mind as a former home secretary, i also knew about the fantastic work the police does. yes, let us have reform and work together with the police to see what more we can do to give confidence. a lot of women also shocked by the metropolitan police's reaction this week, they have put out a statement urging women if they are worried about an arrest and a police officer cautioning them, telling them to flag down a bus to get help. we are showing it on the screen now, how women can verify an officer's identity and intentions, flagged down a bus if you are worried. how down a bus if you are worried. how do you explain that to your daughters? i don't think it would be appropriate for me to get into the detail of why they have said that, i assume they have been thinking about this carefully. what i do hope is over the coming weeks and months and even longer, that the police more generally will look at what further thing is they can do to give that confidence and that is the important part of this, and also what we in government can do and what the home secretary had to say yesterday about how the government responded was precisely the right reaction. sue fisher told us if you minutes ago, a former chief constable of nottinghamshire police, she said, flagging down a bus? seriously? this again puts the responsibility on women instead of the police. i know you don't want to get involved in the specifics but it is really important to you as a government come out on this. this is a striking message and something a lot of people will be talking about. as i say, it is really important the police and government work together to help rebuild confidence. that will be required after this horrific incident, and give reassurance to people generally and especially women up and down the country. let us talk about a member of your own party, the conservative police and crime commissioner in north yorkshire who said yesterday that sarah everard should never have submitted to wayne cousins. he has issued an apology but some are saying that is not enough, he should go. should he go? what he said is completely wrong and i am pleased he has apologised and retracted what he said. clearly, the response to this terrible tragedy is a response for the police and government more broadly. the police and government more broadl . ,, ., . ., broadly. should he go? failing to understand _ broadly. should he go? failing to understand the _ broadly. should he go? failing to understand the situation, - broadly. should he go? failing to understand the situation, to i understand the situation, to understand the situation, to understand the situation, to understand the anger of so many women. all those three failures are right on his part and i don't know enough about him and his track record to tell you about what further action should be taken. what i do agree with which i think is the reaction of everyone, is what he said was completely wrong in every way. obviously he should reflect on that. it is right he has apologised. i am it is right he has apologised. i am sure this will _ it is right he has apologised. i am sure this will be _ it is right he has apologised. i am sure this will be one _ it is right he has apologised. i am sure this will be one of— it is right he has apologised. i am sure this will be one of the issues, justice, crime, which will dominate the tory party conference in manchester. also on the minds of lots of news this morning will be fuel, they have waited to get fuel this week, despite assurances from the government, people are still really worried. the army will help with deliveries from monday. can you reassure our viewers today that in a week this will be sorted? there is enough fuel in the country, there always has been, there hasn't been a problem with the supply. what we have seen is a challenge in terms of the number of drivers, tanker drivers necessary to get that fuel to every part of the country. the measures that had been taken over the last couple of weeks are suddenly helping. it seems the situation is stabilising. it is not completely over yet which is why the army are being asked to help and that. from monday. but it is stabilising. the most reassuring message i can give to everyone is that there is enough fuel in this country for everyone. if everyone just goes back to normal in terms of filling up for what they need, that will certainly help the situation. to somebody going out and wants to drive to football matches this weekend will see relatives for sunday lunch, saying, iwill try weekend will see relatives for sunday lunch, saying, i will try to stick to normal but i am worried about next week. the army going out next week, will this be over in a week? with the support put in place, the changes around the driving rules, the extra visas are being issued for some other drivers. the relaxing of the competition regulations for fuel supplies. the army and the work they can do. i should say these are all things you said you would not do originally and the government have done them. i think the government is right to constantly monitor the situation and do what is necessary, stabilising the situation. i think we will see it continue to improve. thank you forjoining us this morning. time now for the sports news. it is such a special feeling for those who have been involved, especially for those who first signed up in 2019. today it is not about the training, just relax, watch a movie, get ready to take it all in. we know what it is all night, one of the best days you will have in your life. never before will the moment have felt so special, so poignant, as tomorrow morning more than 40,000 people will start their journey on the streets of london as the london marathon makes its comeback. it will be a return to some normality as last year's event was limited to just elite runners with thousands forced to take part virtually because of the pandemic. i've been speaking to some of those who've been preparing for the race. it is finally back, the world—famous marathon that gets 40,000 people running together all with individual stories and reasons why they are pounding the streets of london. among the most emotional, claire nash and wayne flanagan running in memory of their daughterjade who died injanuary this yearjust ten days after she was born. both claire and wayne had tested positive for covid—19 just days before jade suffered unforeseen complications during her birth. i remember having her placed on my lower abdomen for a few seconds then they took her away to the bed to start resuscitating her. yes, it is all a bit of a blur. start resuscitating her. yes, it is alla bit ofa blur. i start resuscitating her. yes, it is all a bit of a blur. ijust remember lots of people coming into the room, lots of people coming into the room, lots of people coming into the room, lots of words being shouted. and seeing... two fingers pushing up and down on her chest. but at that moment in time i didn't think she wouldn't survive, i had it in my head she would be ok and needed a bit of help. jade was named after the midwife who delivered her and helped get her heart beating again, giving mum, dad and brother elijah ten days together. the most precious ten days of our lives. yes, we got to do her footprints, we sang to her, didn't we? immediately afterjade died, i started — immediately afterjade died, i started running as a way to kind of start— started running as a way to kind of start to _ started running as a way to kind of start to understand my grief and loss of _ start to understand my grief and loss ofjade. and then the emotions, 'ust loss ofjade. and then the emotions, iust feit— loss ofjade. and then the emotions, iust felt so— loss ofjade. and then the emotions, just felt so overwhelming quite often — just felt so overwhelming quite often as— just felt so overwhelming quite often. as i started running more and more, _ often. as i started running more and more. i_ often. as i started running more and more, i realised the benefits for me, _ more, i realised the benefits for me. my— more, i realised the benefits for me, my mental health and wellbeing. so we _ me, my mental health and wellbeing. so we are _ me, my mental health and wellbeing. so we are running it to raise awareness and funds for the people who cared _ awareness and funds for the people who cared for us and jade, the nhs and care _ who cared for us and jade, the nhs and care workers. there _ and care workers. there will be lots of tears, lots of smiles, we know we will have a lot of friends cheering us on so it will be special to see them. the thing that will help push me through is obviously knowing jade is there but hearing everyone shout her name as well, that will be really special. this driving force is the same for laura hughes whose brother colin mcginty was stabbed to death in a random attack in liverpool 20 years ago. this family and friends have waited 18 months to run the london marathon to mark what would have been his 40th birthday and to raise awareness of knife crime. through running they have already raised £20,000 for youth anti— knife crime projects and bleeding control kits which they want installed in more public places. it is to stop someone bleeding to death. what has happened is young people are getting into a fight, somebody is dad, and bleeding to death quicker than an absence can get to them. as tragic as this as it is more bearable, colin did not die in vain, we are doing these things to potentially save somebody else. this will be on another level, emotionally tough but for me, we are running because colin can't. colin can't and there are lots of other people like colin who can't and that will keep us engaged and get 26.2 miles done. it will keep us engaged and get 26.2 miles done-— miles done. it will be one of the treat miles done. it will be one of the great days _ miles done. it will be one of the great days of — miles done. it will be one of the great days of your _ miles done. it will be one of the great days of your life. - great days of your life. there _ great days of your life. there are so many personal heart wrenching stories, and now after this record—breaking amount of time, and individual telling of these stories alone, this week, finally runners are able to feel the love of the whole running community as they drop their bags, get registered, feeling the crowd support more than ever before. being able to run together in a safe way, it is outdoors, the best place to be, i truly believe this will be one of the most emotional and memorable london marathons in the history of the event that has had pretty special moments. last year over 37,000 people did run the marathon virtually on their own wherever they could, joining in in spirit via their screens and a similar numberare spirit via their screens and a similar number are signed up to do it virtually this year. but there is nothing like the real thing. last year i ran on my own all day and it— last year i ran on my own all day and it took— last year i ran on my own all day and it took 11 hours. this year it will be — and it took 11 hours. this year it will be wonderful to be standing at the back— will be wonderful to be standing at the back of all these fit people and do the _ the back of all these fit people and do the marathon in my time which is seven— do the marathon in my time which is seven hours. — do the marathon in my time which is seven hours, and enjoy it for this lady— seven hours, and enjoy it for this lady here — seven hours, and enjoy it for this lady here who is my inspiration, she has had _ lady here who is my inspiration, she has had ms — lady here who is my inspiration, she has had ms for years and i looked after— has had ms for years and i looked after her— has had ms for years and i looked after her and all her needs day in and day— after her and all her needs day in and day out. i have got to get her dinner— and day out. i have got to get her dinner in— and day out. i have got to get her dinner ina— and day out. i have got to get her dinner in a 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they frankly- 1998 they won the three legged i village race and they frankly have not stormed — village race and they frankly have not stopped talking _ village race and they frankly have not stopped talking about - village race and they frankly have not stopped talking about it. - village race and they frankly have i not stopped talking about it. how challenauin not stopped talking about it. how challenging is _ not stopped talking about it. challenging is this? let us have not stopped talking about it- challenging is this? let us have an idea of the rhythm you need. you have the same length of stride. thankfully every other runner doesn't need to be physically tied to anyone else to feel the love and support of the thousands running beside them as they make their personal journeys with their beside them as they make their personaljourneys with their loved ones in their hearts. it is also the charities coming over £66,000,000 was raised in 2019. we will be speaking to paula radcliffe to get her top tips later. if you are running tomorrow you won't want to miss that. this has made me realise how time has moved on. it's been almost a quarter of a century since natalie imbruglia released her chart—topping single torn, turning her into global sensation almost overnight. it still gets loads of radio play even now. now, she's releasing a new album her first with original material for more than a decade and describes it as a celebration of independence and finding strength. let's have a listen. # i love that you gave my heart a home. # the place hasn't changed but i'm here alone. # i know it's crazy walking wires. # but nothing lasts forever. # when it all falls down, got to build it better. #just put your hand in my hand. # i'm aiming higher, older and wiser. # this thrill could be real. # on my way. # life should be sweeter, rise up and meet her. # this thrill could be real, on my way. # i get high. # no need to come down for a while. natalie imbruglia joins us now. good morning. we were listening to i promise you, but biggest fan of this programme's theme music which completely chances your music in the eyes of your two—year—old. he loves it, he runs into the living room when he hears it because i have you guys on all the time. why did you put it on the album! i should have! you can hear the team now. he is watching now!- you can hear the team now. he is watching now! that was 'ust for him. you fl he is watching now! that was 'ust for him. you can i he is watching now! that was 'ust for him. you can take * he is watching now! that was 'ust for him. you can take it i he is watching now! that was just for him. you can take it home - he is watching now! that was just | for him. you can take it home and haveit for him. you can take it home and have it on a loop. how is he doing, he is two. he is fantastic. a handful? the light of my life. he is pretty good. taste a handful? the light of my life. he is pretty good-— he is pretty good. we will talk about the _ he is pretty good. we will talk about the music _ he is pretty good. we will talk about the music in _ he is pretty good. we will talk about the music in a _ he is pretty good. we will talk about the music in a moment. he is pretty good. we will talk- about the music in a moment. during the pandemic, it is interesting if you have a child, and australia opening up its borders. my opening up its borders. my parents are on the gold coast, so my flight to sydney, and quarantine, but it is good things are changing. christmas was the last time and i quarantined for two weeks. as family life gets back to normal you have been back in the studio as well. this album, a celebration of independence. a new vibe, and collaborations i imagine you had on their list. i had five years of writers block and when i overcame that i had this new—found confidence and ifound and when i overcame that i had this new—found confidence and i found all the people i wanted to write with, kt tunstall, romeo studdard, lots of other strong —— song writers. it has been amazing. what happens if you haven't written for five years and all of a sudden you say, no, iam back, wouldn't for five years and all of a sudden you say, no, i am back, wouldn't you have been nervous? i had a writing session with roddy who came from scotland to write with me. he set up the keyboard in the living room and i couldn't sing a note. i kept saying, shall we go for a coffee! what had happened? i had lost my confidence, i was scared to sing anything, write anything that wasn't good enough. that took some working on. anything creative is a discipline, you have to shut up, keep trying, and i am testament too if you stick at it and i had the most incredible creative flow. what was it after five years that released that confidence? i think it is a discipline. i went to nashville and did ten days, they did two sessions a day. it was intense and i cried a lot and i wrote some songs i didn't laugh a lot. then i wrote it song with caroline watkins which encapsulated how we were both feeling. this is why i do what i do, this is what connects with people, sharing emotional stories. that must be such a relief, you must have thought you couldn't sing all right again. it is have thought you couldn't sing all riaht aaain. , have thought you couldn't sing all riauhtaain. , , , have thought you couldn't sing all right again-— right again. it is the best feeling now. did you think about giving up? i now. did ou think about aaivin u? did you think about giving up? i did uive it u -. give it up. i thought the universe was telling me not to do it. i spent three years on an album that was pretty much shelled, it was released in australia and new zealand but not worldwide. i couldn't believe three years of my life, maybe i am not meant to be doing this. you have to believe in yourself even if others aren't believing in you, you have to stick at it. i am glad you did. we talked about your little boy who is a massive fan of our theme tune! to what extent is him joining you of our theme tune! to what extent is himjoining you in of our theme tune! to what extent is him joining you in life been part of freeing up your creativity? i think it coincided. i was pregnant while i was song writing. i think thejoy of while i was song writing. i think the joy of that being in place, while i was song writing. i think thejoy of that being in place, it was something i yearned for for a long time. it was a long road. that being a case definitely freed up a lot of creativity. you have been very open, we have our briefing newts, we don't want to dry, briefing newts, we don't want to pry, but you have been open about having ivf treatment, and spoken about how amazing it how people have responded with such kindness. i initially put this statement out because i thought, i am in the public eye, i am going to say it and thatisit public eye, i am going to say it and that is it because i don't want further intrusion on something so personal. but i got so much love and so many women saying thank you for being so open, it has given me the courage to take that step. i thought i am really glad i spoke out. nearly 2a years ago when you hit the top of the charts, i cannot imagine women being received so positively who have a certain image, there is an expectation around the way they look or their music, to being embraced in that way. it has definitely changed. and the industry to support you. i think so. even in the line of questioning, it is such a joy. i don't know if that is also because i am a bit older. it might be that. i do feel like there is a lot more respect around women in the way those things are understood. our people coming to you asking for guidance? when this subject comes up, i say, is a dinner party, here is my number, give me a call. for women it still brings up a lot of feelings. it can be a lonelyjourney. it can be a lonelyjourney. it is nice to have that support. your favourite song on the album? 0h, your favourite song on the album? oh, gosh. they are all my stories. they are all my stories. build it better. it it is about finding strength from fragility. i love the message from it. i love that it was your son's birthday yesterday and you are dashing back. are you doing the baking? i dashing back. are ou doin: the bakinu? ., . are you doing the baking? i have a little bit of help _ are you doing the baking? i have a little bit of help because _ are you doing the baking? i have a little bit of help because i - are you doing the baking? i have a little bit of help because i am - are you doing the baking? i have a little bit of help because i am herej little bit of help because i am here but i really wanted to be here. when you have a party? ihla. but i really wanted to be here. when you have a party?- but i really wanted to be here. when you have a party? no. i am learnina. when you have a party? no. i am learning- i— when you have a party? no. i am learning. i have _ when you have a party? no. i am learning. i have got _ when you have a party? no. i am learning. i have got so _ when you have a party? no. i am learning. i have got so many - learning. i have got so many balloons! the house is full up. if you have to things to celebrate, a birthday and your album. things to celebrate, a birthday and youralbum. i hope he things to celebrate, a birthday and your album. i hope he has a brilliant party. you can play musical chairs with the programme theme! natalie imbruglia's new album is called "firebird". look at the joy on her face as she imagines her son listening to our music! the headlines are coming up. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and jon kay. our headlines today... after the murder of sarah everard, the prime minister promises reform of the criminal justice system, which he describes as a "nightmare" for women. the problem is, we have too few persecutions for rape and too few successfut— persecutions for rape and too few successful prosecutions, too few convictions. the army will begin delivering fuel to petrol stations across the uk from monday, after days of queuing at the pumps. it's been a long time coming, but the wait is nearly over. in the next hour, we'll hear some of the stories that will make tomorrow's london marathon so special. plenty of cloud, outbreaks of rain. the south and east will also see the strongest of the wind. i'll have the details on breakfast. it's saturday the 2nd of october. the prime minister has promised reform to the criminaljustice system, following the murder of sarah everard by a serving police officer. borisjohnson urged the public to trust the police but admitted it's "infuriating" that cases of violence against women and girls are not being taken seriously enough. he also said the government needs to "come down very hard" on problems in the metropolitan police. simonjones reports. the death of sarah everard prompted an outpouring of public grief. now the government says it is determined her murder will bring about permanent change in how society deals with violence against women and girls. the prime minister says there are too few prosecutions and convictions for sexual violence. the time from report to referral, from referral to court proceedings, from court proceedings to the conclusion — all three of those segments — is far too long. and what you are seeing is the whole system snarled up with evidential problems, data issues, mobile phones disclosure, all that kind of stuff, and it's a nightmare for the women concerned. wayne couzens kidnapped, raped and murdered sarah everard, he then dumped her body in woodland in kent. cars register to him had previously been linked to two allegations of indecent exposure, but he wasn't identified as a potential sex offender. it's claimed couzens also used a whatsapp group to swap misogynistic messages with officers from the metropolitan police, the civil nuclear constabulary, and the norfolk constabulary. we also have to address the issues going on in the police force, and you will have seen this stuff about the officers on a whatsapp group. we got to come down very hard on them. the home secretary says the police must raise the bar by taking harassment and flashing more seriously. priti patel told the telegraph, they should not be considered a low level crimes. the met says it is putting more officers in places where people feel unsafe. we're absolutely committed to tackling violence against women and girls. it is one of our priorities. so you will see us out on patrol in hot spots. but there are calls for more scrutiny of the police themselves. this has been going on for many, many years, and i'm rather tired of police forces saying "we are going to learn letters from tragedy." the lessons don't seem to be learned. women's suffering of this sort of stuff has to stop. you have to listen, and police forces are not doing that. and so it has to be listened at a lower level, and i'm sorry that means resourcing and more police available and more money put into policing and the court system. but we also have to have much better processes of training police and those in the justice system. opposition politicians accused the government of starving the police and courts of resources, but there is a growing consensus that the death of sarah everard must act as a watershed moment. simon jones, bbc news. let's speak to our correspondence. there is now public and political pressure — there is now public and political pressure growing on the metropolitan police _ pressure growing on the metropolitan police themselves, and big questions for them, _ police themselves, and big questions for them, too. police themselves, and big questions forthem, too. not police themselves, and big questions for them, too. not least because, as that report _ for them, too. not least because, as that report touched on, we have now found _ that report touched on, we have now found that _ that report touched on, we have now found that the perpetrator on this case was — found that the perpetrator on this case was linked to two previous allegations of indecent exposure, as well as— allegations of indecent exposure, as well as allegations of sharing misogynistic messages with other serving _ misogynistic messages with other serving police officers as well. so the pressure is certainly building on the _ the pressure is certainly building on the police force themselves to try to _ on the police force themselves to try to answer questions on whether they could — try to answer questions on whether they could do more to prevent it. speaking — they could do more to prevent it. speaking earlier, the health secretary defended the police more generally— secretary defended the police more generally as a force that is there to protect — generally as a force that is there to protect us, but did acknowledge that both _ to protect us, but did acknowledge that both the government and police shoutd _ that both the government and police should be _ that both the government and police should be looking at reforms to make sure that _ should be looking at reforms to make sure that nothing like this can happen— sure that nothing like this can happen again. sure that nothing like this can happen again-— sure that nothing like this can happen again. what the police themselves, _ happen again. what the police themselves, the _ happen again. what the police themselves, the metropolitan | happen again. what the police - themselves, the metropolitan police have said about the reforms that they will be looking at is absolutely right. we must also look at what government can do to help build that confidence, building on the violence against women and girls strategy that was published in the summer. this is obviously an appalling, shocking case, and we must make sure that at least something that comes out of this is that we can give more confidence to more women about their own safety. they're a call and acknowledgement that reforms of some sort are needed, _ that reforms of some sort are needed, but there is growing pressure _ needed, but there is growing pressure on the government to provide _ pressure on the government to provide a — pressure on the government to provide a bit more specifics to this _ provide a bit more specifics to this we — provide a bit more specifics to this. we have the chair of home affairs _ this. we have the chair of home affairs committee, yvette cooper, calling _ affairs committee, yvette cooper, calling for— affairs committee, yvette cooper, calling for cressida dick to resign, but also _ calling for cressida dick to resign, but also calling for a enquiry into culture _ but also calling for a enquiry into culture at— but also calling for a enquiry into culture at the metropolitan police. also people like the policing minister saying that much more needs to be done _ minister saying that much more needs to be done within the police itself to be done within the police itself to try— to be done within the police itself to try to— to be done within the police itself to try to restore that trust. not 'ust to try to restore that trust. not just trust— to try to restore that trust. not just trust that if someone is stopped _ just trust that if someone is stopped by a police officer anyway that sarah everard was, that that police _ that sarah everard was, that that police officer won't do them harm, but trust _ police officer won't do them harm, but trust that the police will do more _ but trust that the police will do more to— but trust that the police will do more to root out misconduct within their own _ more to root out misconduct within their own force.— more to root out misconduct within their own force. thank you very much indeed for that _ their own force. thank you very much indeed for that update. _ their own force. thank you very much indeed for that update. it's _ their own force. thank you very much indeed for that update. it's not - their own force. thank you very much indeed for that update. it's not the i indeed for that update. it's not the only huge issue that politicians are having to deal with this we can. the army will begin delivering fuel to forecourts from monday, to try to ease the pressure at petrol stations. ministers are also allowing up to 300 of the 5,000 hgv drivers being recruited from abroad to come to the uk immediately. up to ir,700 lorry drivers specialising in food delivery will start to arrive from the end of this month. and 5,500 poultry workers will be granted the right to work here, too — until the end of the year. it has to be the case that we make sure that they get the training to do so. i think we would all expect that to be the right thing. at the same time, we have to work with industry so that we know where we are sending them. we can'tjust send them to random garages. it has to be properly deployed. them to random garages. it has to be pr0perly deployed-— properly deployed. that's the defence secretary. _ an experimental drug used to treat severe cases of covid cuts the risk of hospitalisation or death by about half — that's what clinical trial results from the us suggest. if approved, the pill called molnupiravir would be the first oral antiviral medication for covid—i9. medical advisers in the us said the results were "very good news" but urged caution until the data had been reviewed. the queen is due to address msps at holyrood to mark the opening of the new session of the scottish parliament. the ceremony would normally take place injuly, but was postponed because of coronavirus. this will be the snp�*s fourth consecutive term in government, following their victory in may. the volcano that's been erupting for the past 11 days on the spanish island of la palma is spewing out two new streams of lava, threatening further destruction. more homes and crops have been destroyed and thousands of people have been forced to evacuate since the eruption first began last month. if you saw the number 30 projected onto the side of buildings around the world, what would you think about it? i the world, what would you think about it? ., ~' �* , the world, what would you think about it? ., ~ �*, , about it? i would think, it's my birthday coming _ about it? i would think, it's my birthday coming up. _ about it? i would think, it's my birthday coming up. according | about it? i would think, it's my l birthday coming up. according to adele fans, it could be a hint that the singer is about to release new music. she isjust 30, and now the number 30 has been spotted on the empire state building in new york, the houses of parliament last night. i looked on her website, there is still no news on that. nothing official. maybe it is nothing to do with adele and we have all been hoodwinked. she with adele and we have all been hoodwinked.— with adele and we have all been hoodwinked. ,, . " ' ., hoodwinked. she had 19, 21, 25, and who knows what's _ hoodwinked. she had 19, 21, 25, and who knows what's next? _ hoodwinked. she had 19, 21, 25, and who knows what's next? matt - hoodwinked. she had 19, 21, 25, and who knows what's next? matt made | hoodwinked. she had 19, 21, 25, and i who knows what's next? matt made the same joke that you did.— same joke that you did. sadly, no number 30 _ same joke that you did. sadly, no number 30 is _ same joke that you did. sadly, no number 30 is on _ same joke that you did. sadly, no number 30 is on a _ same joke that you did. sadly, no number 30 is on a matt's - number 30 is on a matt's weather maps this morning. hat number 30 is on a matt's weather maps this morning.— number 30 is on a matt's weather maps this morning. not unless it is wind speeds- _ the strongest of the winds in northern— the strongest of the winds in northern parts of scotland. icy is all linked — northern parts of scotland. icy is all linked with this ribbon of cloud across— all linked with this ribbon of cloud across the — all linked with this ribbon of cloud across the atlantic. linking into this, _ across the atlantic. linking into this, which— across the atlantic. linking into this, which is now developing several— this, which is now developing several weather fronts, alljoining forces _ several weather fronts, alljoining forces across the uk. strongest of the wind _ forces across the uk. strongest of the wind tied in with this developing low pressure. it's on the ed-e developing low pressure. it's on the edge of— developing low pressure. it's on the edge of that that we will see the strongest of the winds. we saw a few rumbles _ strongest of the winds. we saw a few rumbles of— strongest of the winds. we saw a few rumbles of thunder which i was in the north—west earlier on. a bit more _ the north—west earlier on. a bit more hit — the north—west earlier on. a bit more hit and missed. persistent rain in wates— more hit and missed. persistent rain in wales and — more hit and missed. persistent rain in wales and parts of south—west england — in wales and parts of south—west england. some of the wettest conditions across southern england as we _ conditions across southern england as we go— conditions across southern england as we go through the day, along with some _ as we go through the day, along with some of— as we go through the day, along with some of the — as we go through the day, along with some of the strongest of the winds. sunshine _ some of the strongest of the winds. sunshine and showers in northern iretand _ sunshine and showers in northern ireland later, the rain heavy in places— ireland later, the rain heavy in places but— ireland later, the rain heavy in places but like for some across northern — places but like for some across northern and eastern england through the day, _ northern and eastern england through the day, and certainly the case across — the day, and certainly the case across scotland, the heaviest rain will be _ across scotland, the heaviest rain will be on — across scotland, the heaviest rain will be on the hills. northern scotland _ will be on the hills. northern scotland is the driest and brightest. temperatures between 11-16 ~ _ brightest. temperatures between 11—16. particularly cool brightest. temperatures between 11—16 . particularly cool where brightest. temperatures between 11—16. particularly cool where the winds— 11—16. particularly cool where the winds picked up. the strongest of the winds— winds picked up. the strongest of the winds from the southern english coast _ the winds from the southern english coast to— the winds from the southern english coast to east anglia. turning a bit tighter— coast to east anglia. turning a bit lighter later. we will see some persistent rain across scotland, ctear— persistent rain across scotland, clear spells, a few showers, and a day of— clear spells, a few showers, and a day of sunshine and showers tomorrow. iq.r day of sunshine and showers tomorrow— day of sunshine and showers tomorrow. , , ., , ;;:: tomorrow. icy is far off number 30, isn't i ? tomorrow. icy is far off number 30, isn't icy? matt. _ tomorrow. icy is far off number 30, isn't icy? matt, thank— tomorrow. icy is far off number 30, isn't icy? matt, thank you - tomorrow. icy is far off number 30, isn't icy? matt, thank you very - tomorrow. icy is far off number 30, | isn't icy? matt, thank you very much indeed. taste isn't icy? matt, thank you very much indeed. ~ ., ., ., , indeed. we do what we do every saturday morning _ indeed. we do what we do every saturday morning at _ indeed. we do what we do every saturday morning at this - indeed. we do what we do every saturday morning at this time, | indeed. we do what we do every i saturday morning at this time, we get an update on the latest coronavirus developments with our regular panel. they are of course the virologist doctor chris smith and of public hail. theyjoin us now. macia asks... linda, should she be worried? ., ., , macia asks... linda, should she be worried? . ., ., , macia asks... linda, should she be worried? . . . , worried? macia has asked a very good ruestion, worried? macia has asked a very good question. and — worried? macia has asked a very good question, and given _ worried? macia has asked a very good question, and given that _ worried? macia has asked a very good question, and given that this - worried? macia has asked a very good question, and given that this virus - question, and given that this virus will become endemic, we will be living _ will become endemic, we will be living with — will become endemic, we will be living with it among other coronaviruses in the future, it is possible — coronaviruses in the future, it is possible people will get it more than once. there are studies on this. _ than once. there are studies on this. the — than once. there are studies on this, the ons infection survey has looked _ this, the ons infection survey has looked at — this, the ons infection survey has looked at reinfection. the last time they did _ looked at reinfection. the last time they did this in detail was back in june _ they did this in detail was back in june. they— they did this in detail was back in june. they looked at all the cases they had — june. they looked at all the cases they had from april 2022 june of this year. — they had from april 2022 june of this year, and they looked at what is called _ this year, and they looked at what is called participant day is at risk — is called participant day is at risk. obviously, your risk being reinfected. _ risk. obviously, your risk being reinfected, macia had her infection in august. — reinfected, macia had her infection in august, in this study they had to be 90 _ in august, in this study they had to be 90 days— in august, in this study they had to be 90 days after the initial infection, because sometimes the test can— infection, because sometimes the test can pick it up longer than you can expect. — test can pick it up longer than you can expect, and they found the risk was about— can expect, and they found the risk was about 15 cases per 100,000 in terms _ was about 15 cases per 100,000 in terms of— was about 15 cases per 100,000 in terms of participant days at risk. the bottom line is that reinfection is unusual— the bottom line is that reinfection is unusual but not impossible, and of course — is unusual but not impossible, and of course very macia the most important _ of course very macia the most important thing is that if she does test positive again in the future, because — test positive again in the future, because she has had her back scenes, the risk— because she has had her back scenes, the risk of— because she has had her back scenes, the risk of her becoming very unwell or going _ the risk of her becoming very unwell or going into hospital are far, far less than— or going into hospital are far, far less than they would be. but robabl less than they would be. but probably some _ less than they would be. emit probably some of us will pick it up more than once. so it's not impossible. macia is not bullet—proof. but she should be maybe not so worried this morning. the vaccines have given her not a bullet—proof vest, but good protection. it bullet-proof vest, but good protection-— protection. it leads on to a question — protection. it leads on to a question from _ protection. it leads on to a question from doug, - protection. it leads on to a question from doug, who l protection. it leads on to a - question from doug, who asks... is there a greater risk to your health if you get the virus more than once? the evidence we have from the coronavirus _ the evidence we have from the coronavirus family _ the evidence we have from the coronavirus family is _ the evidence we have from the coronavirus family is that - the evidence we have from the coronavirus family is that the l coronavirus family is that the answer— coronavirus family is that the answer to— coronavirus family is that the answer to that _ coronavirus family is that the answer to that question - coronavirus family is that the answer to that question is i coronavirus family is that the l answer to that question is no. because — answer to that question is no. because there _ answer to that question is no. because there are _ answer to that question is no. because there are about - answer to that question is no. because there are about fouri answer to that question is no. - 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millions of years, causing colds in humans. and we almost certainly| millions of years, causing colds in - humans. and we almost certainly have caught— humans. and we almost certainly have caught them _ humans. and we almost certainly have caught them across _ humans. and we almost certainly have caught them across our _ humans. and we almost certainly have caught them across our lifetimes. - caught them across our lifetimes. there _ caught them across our lifetimes. there is— caught them across our lifetimes. there is no— caught them across our lifetimes. there is no evidence _ caught them across our lifetimes. there is no evidence they- caught them across our lifetimes. there is no evidence they have i there is no evidence they have deteterious _ there is no evidence they have deleterious effect _ there is no evidence they have deleterious effect on _ there is no evidence they have deleterious effect on health. . there is no evidence they have l deleterious effect on health. as lon- deleterious effect on health. as tong as — deleterious effect on health. as tong as you _ deleterious effect on health. as long as you have _ deleterious effect on health. as long as you have a _ deleterious effect on health. as long as you have a trivial, - long as you have a trivial, run—of—the—mill- long as you have a trivial, run—of—the—mill infection| long as you have a trivial, - run—of—the—mill infection with one of these _ run—of—the—mill infection with one of these viruses, _ run—of—the—mill infection with one of these viruses, i _ run—of—the—mill infection with one of these viruses, i don't _ run—of—the—mill infection with one of these viruses, i don't think- of these viruses, i don't think successive _ of these viruses, i don't think successive repeat— of these viruses, i don't think successive repeat encountersj of these viruses, i don't think- successive repeat encounters will call you _ successive repeat encounters will call you a — successive repeat encounters will call you a problem. _ successive repeat encounters will call you a problem. what - successive repeat encounters will call you a problem. what it- successive repeat encounters will call you a problem. what it will. successive repeat encounters willi call you a problem. what it will do is build _ call you a problem. what it will do is build immunity, _ call you a problem. what it will do is build immunity, because - call you a problem. what it will do is build immunity, because if- call you a problem. what it will do is build immunity, because if youi is build immunity, because if you already— is build immunity, because if you atready have _ is build immunity, because if you already have some _ is build immunity, because if you already have some underlying. already have some underlying immunity— already have some underlying immunity through _ already have some underlying immunity through vaccination | already have some underlying . immunity through vaccination or having _ immunity through vaccination or having caught _ immunity through vaccination or having caught the _ immunity through vaccination or having caught the infection, - immunity through vaccination or- having caught the infection, because your immune — having caught the infection, because your immune system _ having caught the infection, because your immune system already - having caught the infection, because your immune system already knowsi having caught the infection, because - your immune system already knows how to recognise _ your immune system already knows how to recognise it— your immune system already knows how to recognise it you — your immune system already knows how to recognise it you are _ your immune system already knows how to recognise it you are much— your immune system already knows how to recognise it you are much more - to recognise it you are much more tikety— to recognise it you are much more tikety to _ to recognise it you are much more tikety to have _ to recognise it you are much more tikety to have a _ to recognise it you are much more likely to have a trivial _ to recognise it you are much more likely to have a trivial infection - likely to have a trivial infection with— likely to have a trivial infection with it — likely to have a trivial infection with it the _ likely to have a trivial infection with it the next _ likely to have a trivial infection with it the next time, - likely to have a trivial infection with it the next time, are - likely to have a trivial infection with it the next time, are not. likely to have a trivial infection - with it the next time, are not even notice _ with it the next time, are not even notice you — with it the next time, are not even notice you have _ with it the next time, are not even notice you have it. _ with it the next time, are not even notice you have it. we _ with it the next time, are not even notice you have it.— notice you have it. we refer to these questions _ notice you have it. we refer to these questions and _ notice you have it. we refer to these questions and people i notice you have it. we refer to i these questions and people send notice you have it. we refer to - these questions and people send them in because the whole issue of how we are coping in our personal lives with the virus is ever present, and yet we still have the news that we bring every day. i think we should tackle a couple of those issues. lender come up with your public—health hat on, there have been issues with the roll—out in scotland, haven't there? it's about talking about how to access your vaccination status and prove it. there are questions now about why cant you just provide evidence of a negative test rather than have to have a vaccination passport? these thins have a vaccination passport? these thin . s are have a vaccination passport? these things are controversial. _ have a vaccination passport? these things are controversial. many - things are controversial. many countries _ things are controversial. many countries around the world have introduced the requirement to provide — introduced the requirement to provide proof of vaccination to access— provide proof of vaccination to access certain venues, and as you say scotland has taken the decision, and wates— say scotland has taken the decision, and wales have said they will as well. _ and wales have said they will as well. to— and wales have said they will as well, to look at the night—time economy— well, to look at the night—time economy at large mass events. the decision— economy at large mass events. the decision was taken not that long ago. _ decision was taken not that long ago. and — decision was taken not that long ago, and you set up a scheme like that is— ago, and you set up a scheme like that is really, really difficult. i think— that is really, really difficult. i think my— that is really, really difficult. i think my understanding was that the system _ think my understanding was that the system was overwhelmed. more than 70.000 _ system was overwhelmed. more than 70,000 people try to download their certificate _ 70,000 people try to download their certificate quite quickly. from a public— certificate quite quickly. from a public health perspective, the rationale for doing something like that is— rationale for doing something like that is twofold. the first is, will it increase _ that is twofold. the first is, will it increase uptake of vaccination? particularly in the 18—29 —year—old group. _ particularly in the 18—29 —year—old group. we — particularly in the 18—29 —year—old group, we got about 76% of that group _ group, we got about 76% of that group that have taken up their vaccine. — group that have taken up their vaccine, the increase of that is tevetting — vaccine, the increase of that is levelling off, so we need more of them _ levelling off, so we need more of them to— levelling off, so we need more of them to come forward and that is part of— them to come forward and that is part of the — them to come forward and that is part of the rationale for certification scheme. the second is, if you _ certification scheme. the second is, if you are _ certification scheme. the second is, if you are in — certification scheme. the second is, ifyou are in a — certification scheme. the second is, if you are in a nightclub and everyone _ if you are in a nightclub and everyone is vaccinated, the risks are less — everyone is vaccinated, the risks are less than if you have more people — are less than if you have more people and vaccinated. but like so many _ people and vaccinated. but like so many things in this pandemic, as we have discussed before, there is a difference — have discussed before, there is a difference between policy and actually doing something in practice, and i think that is where the issue — practice, and i think that is where the issue is— practice, and i think that is where the issue is at the moment. with the issue is at the moment. with s stems the issue is at the moment. with systems as _ the issue is at the moment. with systems as well, _ the issue is at the moment. with systems as well, how _ the issue is at the moment. tn systems as well, how frustrating is it that there is not a uk wide approach to this? because people will be thinking, maybe i'm travelling to scotland, or if i'm travelling to scotland, or if i'm travelling out of scotland, how does this affect me? now that we are opening up and we are going to more and more places. it opening up and we are going to more and more places-— and more places. it would be much simler, and more places. it would be much simpler. as — and more places. it would be much simpler. as we _ and more places. it would be much simpler, as we are _ and more places. it would be much simpler, as we are a _ and more places. it would be much simpler, as we are a single - and more places. it would be much simpler, as we are a single island, | simpler, as we are a single island, to have _ simpler, as we are a single island, to have a — simpler, as we are a single island, to have a unified approach, but the reatity— to have a unified approach, but the reality is. _ to have a unified approach, but the reality is, and again this is a policy— reality is, and again this is a policy issue, that health and public health— policy issue, that health and public health are — policy issue, that health and public health are devolved to the different uk nations. throughout the pandemic, we have _ uk nations. throughout the pandemic, we have seen injurisdictions where governments have authority, they do something _ governments have authority, they do something that might be slightly different. what i would say is, in the university sector, we have that might— the university sector, we have that might have — the university sector, we have that might have had a first dose in england — might have had a first dose in england and a second dose in scotland. _ england and a second dose in scotland, so we do need the system to work— scotland, so we do need the system to work for— scotland, so we do need the system to work for everybody so they can show _ to work for everybody so they can show that — to work for everybody so they can show that they have had their vaccines. _ show that they have had their vaccines, or if they haven't then what _ vaccines, or if they haven't then what is — vaccines, or if they haven't then what is the _ vaccines, or if they haven't then what is the good medical reason why they not— what is the good medical reason why they not have. what is the good medical reason why they not have-— they not have. chris, can i ask about this _ they not have. chris, can i ask about this new _ they not have. chris, can i ask about this new drug? - they not have. chris, can i ask about this new drug? news i they not have. chris, can i ask i about this new drug? news from america, molnupiravir, this tablet thatis america, molnupiravir, this tablet that is being trialled. it sounds very exciting. that is being trialled. it sounds very exciting-— that is being trialled. it sounds ve excitin. , ., ., very exciting. this was a drug that mark in collaboration _ very exciting. this was a drug that mark in collaboration with - very exciting. this was a drug that mark in collaboration with another company— mark in collaboration with another company were _ mark in collaboration with another company were developing - mark in collaboration with another company were developing against| mark in collaboration with another. company were developing against the flu company were developing against the ftu back— company were developing against the flu back in— company were developing against the flu back in 2020. _ company were developing against the flu back in 2020. like _ company were developing against the flu back in 2020. like all— company were developing against the flu back in 2020. like all these - flu back in 2020. like all these things. — flu back in 2020. like all these things. when— flu back in 2020. like all these things, when coronavirus - flu back in 2020. like all these things, when coronavirus leaptj flu back in 2020. like all these - things, when coronavirus leapt onto the world _ things, when coronavirus leapt onto the world stage. _ things, when coronavirus leapt onto the world stage, it— things, when coronavirus leapt onto the world stage, it was _ things, when coronavirus leapt onto the world stage, it was sensible - things, when coronavirus leapt onto the world stage, it was sensible to. the world stage, it was sensible to say, the world stage, it was sensible to say. "well. — the world stage, it was sensible to say. "well. maybe— the world stage, it was sensible to say, "well, maybe this _ the world stage, it was sensible to say, "well, maybe this drug - the world stage, it was sensible to say, "well, maybe this drug will. say, "well, maybe this drug will work— say, "well, maybe this drug will work in — say, "well, maybe this drug will work in that— say, "well, maybe this drug will work in that context, _ say, "well, maybe this drug will work in that context, too." - say, "well, maybe this drug will| work in that context, too." since those _ work in that context, too." since those trials _ work in that context, too." since those trials have _ work in that context, too." since those trials have been _ work in that context, too." since those trials have been done, - those trials have been done, including _ those trials have been done, including one _ those trials have been done, including one that _ those trials have been done, including one that published| those trials have been done, - including one that published data on a retativety— including one that published data on a retativety big — including one that published data on a relatively big group _ including one that published data on a relatively big group of— including one that published data on a relatively big group of people - a relatively big group of people that announced _ a relatively big group of people that announced the _ a relatively big group of people that announced the results - a relatively big group of people that announced the results this week. — that announced the results this week. it — that announced the results this week, it shows _ that announced the results this week, it shows that _ that announced the results this week, it shows that the - that announced the results this l week, it shows that the rationale for doing — week, it shows that the rationale for doing this _ week, it shows that the rationale for doing this was _ week, it shows that the rationale for doing this was that _ week, it shows that the rationale for doing this was that this - week, it shows that the rationale for doing this was that this is - week, it shows that the rationale for doing this was that this is a i for doing this was that this is a drug _ for doing this was that this is a drug not— for doing this was that this is a drug not to _ for doing this was that this is a drug not to give _ for doing this was that this is a drug not to give people - for doing this was that this is a drug not to give people that i for doing this was that this is a | drug not to give people that are extremely— drug not to give people that are extremely unwell. _ drug not to give people that are extremely unwell. this - drug not to give people that are extremely unwell. this is - drug not to give people that are extremely unwell. this is a - drug not to give people that are| extremely unwell. this is a drug drug not to give people that are - extremely unwell. this is a drug you could _ extremely unwell. this is a drug you could give _ extremely unwell. this is a drug you could give people _ extremely unwell. this is a drug you could give people in _ extremely unwell. this is a drug you could give people in their— extremely unwell. this is a drug you could give people in their homes- extremely unwell. this is a drug you| could give people in their homes and you could _ could give people in their homes and you could use — could give people in their homes and you could use it _ could give people in their homes and you could use it preventatively. - could give people in their homes and you could use it preventatively. so i you could use it preventatively. so people _ you could use it preventatively. so people who — you could use it preventatively. so people who encounter _ you could use it preventatively. so people who encounter coronavirus| you could use it preventatively. so - people who encounter coronavirus who might _ people who encounter coronavirus who might otherwise — people who encounter coronavirus who might otherwise be _ people who encounter coronavirus who might otherwise be destined _ people who encounter coronavirus who might otherwise be destined to - might otherwise be destined to become — might otherwise be destined to become severely— might otherwise be destined to become severely unwell- might otherwise be destined to become severely unwell don't.| might otherwise be destined to l become severely unwell don't. in this group— become severely unwell don't. in this group that _ become severely unwell don't. in this group that people _ become severely unwell don't. in this group that people that - become severely unwell don't. in this group that people that took. become severely unwell don't. in i this group that people that took the drug. _ this group that people that took the drug. about — this group that people that took the drug. about 50% _ this group that people that took the drug, about 50% fewer _ this group that people that took the drug, about 50% fewer ended - this group that people that took the drug, about 50% fewer ended up i this group that people that took the i drug, about 50% fewer ended up with significant _ drug, about 50% fewer ended up with significant disease _ drug, about 50% fewer ended up with significant disease than _ drug, about 50% fewer ended up with significant disease than perhaps - significant disease than perhaps would _ significant disease than perhaps would have _ significant disease than perhaps would have done. _ significant disease than perhaps would have done. the _ significant disease than perhaps would have done. the rate - significant disease than perhaps would have done. the rate of. significant disease than perhaps - would have done. the rate of severe disease _ would have done. the rate of severe disease were — would have done. the rate of severe disease were about _ would have done. the rate of severe disease were about 14% _ would have done. the rate of severe disease were about 14% of _ would have done. the rate of severe disease were about 14% of people i would have done. the rate of severe l disease were about 14% of people who didn't take _ disease were about 14% of people who didn't take the — disease were about 14% of people who didn't take the drug, _ disease were about 14% of people who didn't take the drug, versus _ disease were about 14% of people who didn't take the drug, versus 17%- disease were about 14% of people who didn't take the drug, versus 17% —— - didn't take the drug, versus 17% —— 7% in— didn't take the drug, versus 17% —— 7% in people — didn't take the drug, versus 17% —— 7% in people who _ didn't take the drug, versus 17% —— 7% in people who did. _ didn't take the drug, versus 17% —— 7% in people who did. they- didn't take the drug, versus 17% —— 7% in people who did. they are - didn't take the drug, versus 17% ——| 7% in people who did. they are now petitioning — 7% in people who did. they are now petitioning to — 7% in people who did. they are now petitioning to have _ 7% in people who did. they are now petitioning to have the _ 7% in people who did. they are now petitioning to have the drug - petitioning to have the drug approved _ petitioning to have the drug approved as— petitioning to have the drug approved as a _ petitioning to have the drug approved as a preventative, petitioning to have the drug i approved as a preventative, at petitioning to have the drug - approved as a preventative, at least in america _ approved as a preventative, at least in america first. _ approved as a preventative, at least in america first. it _ approved as a preventative, at least in america first. it could _ approved as a preventative, at least in america first. it could be - approved as a preventative, at least in america first. it could be used . in america first. it could be used as an _ in america first. it could be used as an additional— in america first. it could be used as an additional tool— in america first. it could be used as an additional tool to - in america first. it could be used as an additional tool to keep - in america first. it could be used i as an additional tool to keep people out of— as an additional tool to keep people out of hospital _ as an additional tool to keep people out of hospital. but _ as an additional tool to keep people out of hospital. but vaccines - as an additional tool to keep people out of hospital. but vaccines are - out of hospital. but vaccines are our main — out of hospital. but vaccines are our main stay— out of hospital. but vaccines are our main stay at _ out of hospital. but vaccines are our main stay at the _ out of hospital. but vaccines are our main stay at the moment, i out of hospital. but vaccines are i our main stay at the moment, and they work— our main stay at the moment, and they work stupendously_ our main stay at the moment, and they work stupendously well. - our main stay at the moment, and they work stupendously well. we i our main stay at the moment, and - they work stupendously well. we have more data _ they work stupendously well. we have more data this — they work stupendously well. we have more data this week— they work stupendously well. we have more data this week showing - they work stupendously well. we have more data this week showing just - they work stupendously well. we have more data this week showing just howj more data this week showing just how well they— more data this week showing just how well they have — more data this week showing just how well they have been _ more data this week showing just how well they have been working. - more data this week showing just how well they have been working. data - well they have been working. data from scotland _ well they have been working. data from scotland showed _ well they have been working. data from scotland showed that - well they have been working. data from scotland showed that peoplej well they have been working. data - from scotland showed that people who have been— from scotland showed that people who have been vaccinated _ from scotland showed that people who have been vaccinated have _ from scotland showed that people who have been vaccinated have a _ from scotland showed that people who have been vaccinated have a lower- have been vaccinated have a lower than one _ have been vaccinated have a lower than one in— have been vaccinated have a lower than one in 20,000 _ have been vaccinated have a lower than one in 20,000 chance - have been vaccinated have a lower than one in 20,000 chance of- than one in 20,000 chance of developing _ than one in 20,000 chance of developing severe _ than one in 20,000 chance of developing severe disease - than one in 20,000 chance of. developing severe disease once than one in 20,000 chance of- developing severe disease once they have been— developing severe disease once they have been vaccinated. _ developing severe disease once they have been vaccinated. this - developing severe disease once they have been vaccinated. this is - developing severe disease once they have been vaccinated. this is an - have been vaccinated. this is an amazing — have been vaccinated. this is an amazing result. _ have been vaccinated. this is an amazing result. is— have been vaccinated. this is an amazing result.— have been vaccinated. this is an amazing result. as far as this new dru: is amazing result. as far as this new drug is concerned, _ amazing result. as far as this new drug is concerned, the _ amazing result. as far as this new drug is concerned, the crucial- amazing result. as far as this new. drug is concerned, the crucial thing would be getting the timing right, and to the right people at the right point? if and to the right people at the right oint? , ., and to the right people at the right oint? ,, ~ ., and to the right people at the right oint? i. ~ ., ., point? if you know when there are surues point? if you know when there are surges coming _ point? if you know when there are surges coming or _ point? if you know when there are surges coming or you _ point? if you know when there are surges coming or you know - point? if you know when there are surges coming or you know who i point? if you know when there are l surges coming or you know who the most _ surges coming or you know who the most vulnerable _ surges coming or you know who the most vulnerable people _ surges coming or you know who the most vulnerable people are, - surges coming or you know who the most vulnerable people are, or- most vulnerable people are, or perhaps— most vulnerable people are, or perhaps if— most vulnerable people are, or perhaps if a _ most vulnerable people are, or perhaps if a person _ most vulnerable people are, or perhaps if a person is - most vulnerable people are, or perhaps if a person is going - most vulnerable people are, or perhaps if a person is going to| most vulnerable people are, or. perhaps if a person is going to be going _ perhaps if a person is going to be going out— perhaps if a person is going to be going out or— perhaps if a person is going to be going out or encountering - perhaps if a person is going to be going out or encountering with i going out or encountering with people — going out or encountering with people in— going out or encountering with people in as _ going out or encountering with people in as a _ going out or encountering with people in as a doctor's - going out or encountering with - people in as a doctor's appointment or a community— people in as a doctor's appointment or a community center— people in as a doctor's appointment or a community center and - people in as a doctor's appointment or a community center and they - people in as a doctor's appointment i or a community center and they know there _ or a community center and they know there is— or a community center and they know there is a _ or a community center and they know there is a chance _ or a community center and they know there is a chance that _ or a community center and they know there is a chance that they _ or a community center and they know there is a chance that they run - there is a chance that they run into there is a chance that they run into the infection. — there is a chance that they run into the infection, at— there is a chance that they run into the infection, at that _ there is a chance that they run into the infection, at that point - there is a chance that they run into the infection, at that point you - the infection, at that point you could — the infection, at that point you could then _ the infection, at that point you could then take _ the infection, at that point you could then take some - the infection, at that point you could then take some of - the infection, at that point you could then take some of these j the infection, at that point you - could then take some of these pills and it— could then take some of these pills and it would — could then take some of these pills and it would mean— could then take some of these pills and it would mean that _ could then take some of these pills and it would mean that for - could then take some of these pills and it would mean that for you - could then take some of these pills and it would mean that for you to i and it would mean that for you to catch _ and it would mean that for you to catch the — and it would mean that for you to catch the infection _ and it would mean that for you to catch the infection it _ and it would mean that for you to catch the infection it would - and it would mean that for you to catch the infection it would be - and it would mean that for you to catch the infection it would be a i catch the infection it would be a mild _ catch the infection it would be a mild infection. _ catch the infection it would be a mild infection. it— catch the infection it would be a mild infection. it works - catch the infection it would be a mild infection. it works by- mild infection. it works by interrupting _ mild infection. it works by interrupting the _ mild infection. it works by interrupting the way - mild infection. it works by interrupting the way that. mild infection. it works by. interrupting the way that the mild infection. it works by- interrupting the way that the virus copies— interrupting the way that the virus copies its— interrupting the way that the virus copies its genetic _ interrupting the way that the virus copies its genetic code, _ interrupting the way that the virus copies its genetic code, so - interrupting the way that the virus copies its genetic code, so as - interrupting the way that the virus copies its genetic code, so as a i copies its genetic code, so as a resutt— copies its genetic code, so as a result it — copies its genetic code, so as a result it frustrates _ copies its genetic code, so as a result it frustrates the - copies its genetic code, so as a result it frustrates the ability. copies its genetic code, so as a j result it frustrates the ability of the virus — result it frustrates the ability of the virus to— result it frustrates the ability of the virus to grow _ result it frustrates the ability of the virus to grow in _ result it frustrates the ability of the virus to grow in the - result it frustrates the ability of the virus to grow in the body, i the virus to grow in the body, slowing — the virus to grow in the body, slowing it— the virus to grow in the body, slowing it down. _ the virus to grow in the body, slowing it down.— slowing it down. that is encouraging. _ slowing it down. that is encouraging. linda, - slowing it down. that is| encouraging. linda, can slowing it down. that is - encouraging. linda, can we talk about concerns amongst people that gps, consultants are lacking when it comes to getting third doses out? this is very immunosuppressed people. could you also explain the difference between the value of a third dose compared to a booster jab? third dose compared to a booster 'ab? . . third dose compared to a booster 'ab? , , , . . third dose compared to a booster 'ab? ,,,. ., ., jab? this is such an important issue. there _ jab? this is such an important issue. there are _ jab? this is such an important issue. there are around - jab? this is such an important - issue. there are around 500,000 people _ issue. there are around 500,000 people who are affected in the uk who are _ people who are affected in the uk who are eligible for this third dose~ — who are eligible for this third dose. the second part of your question. _ dose. the second part of your question, let's deal with this first — question, let's deal with this first the _ question, let's deal with this first. the beginning of september, the jc— first. the beginning of september, the jc vi _ first. the beginning of september, the jc vi gave guidance that this group _ the jc vi gave guidance that this group of— the jc vi gave guidance that this group of people should receive not a booster— group of people should receive not a booster but a primary dose. so the third _ booster but a primary dose. so the third dose — booster but a primary dose. so the third dose for them is to improve the protection that the vaccines can provide _ the protection that the vaccines can provide because there body did not respond _ provide because there body did not respond in — provide because there body did not respond in the same way as many other— respond in the same way as many other people after the second dose. the reason — other people after the second dose. the reason for that are different between — the reason for that are different between the groups affected. you have people with blood cancers, people _ have people with blood cancers, people have had a transplant, but it 'ust people have had a transplant, but it just means — people have had a transplant, but it just means they have not been able to mount _ just means they have not been able to mount the same immune response. they need _ to mount the same immune response. they need the third primary dose. it comes— they need the third primary dose. it comes back— they need the third primary dose. it comes back to systems issues. the nhs has _ comes back to systems issues. the nhs has been dealing with covid—19 for such— nhs has been dealing with covid—19 for such a _ nhs has been dealing with covid—19 for such a long time, we have rolled out a _ for such a long time, we have rolled out a massive vaccine programme which. _ out a massive vaccine programme which. as— out a massive vaccine programme which, as chris says, has been a phenomenal success. we are dealing with fuel— phenomenal success. we are dealing with fuel vaccines, boosters and this third — with fuel vaccines, boosters and this third primary dose, so there do seem _ this third primary dose, so there do seem to _ this third primary dose, so there do seem to be — this third primary dose, so there do seem to be sent mixed messages and problems _ seem to be sent mixed messages and problems. but in research with cancer— problems. but in research with cancer patients, we know it is reatty — cancer patients, we know it is really important patients receive that third — really important patients receive that third primary dose, and i hope as many— that third primary dose, and i hope as many as — that third primary dose, and i hope as many as possible will over the coming _ as many as possible will over the coming weeks. if as many as possible will over the coming weeks-— as many as possible will over the coming weeks. if you are waiting for that, what should _ coming weeks. if you are waiting for that, what should you _ coming weeks. if you are waiting for that, what should you be _ coming weeks. if you are waiting for that, what should you be saying - coming weeks. if you are waiting for that, what should you be saying to i that, what should you be saying to your medical provider, medical adviser? ., . ., , your medical provider, medical adviser? ., . ., i, ., your medical provider, medical adviser? ., . ., , adviser? you certainly should be t in: to adviser? you certainly should be trying to speak _ adviser? you certainly should be trying to speak to _ adviser? you certainly should be trying to speak to your _ adviser? you certainly should be trying to speak to your gp - adviser? you certainly should be trying to speak to your gp if- trying to speak to your gp if possible. _ trying to speak to your gp if possible, although not overloading gps, possible, although not overloading gps. and _ possible, although not overloading gps, and trying to identify where in the system — gps, and trying to identify where in the system things might have got missed _ the system things might have got missed. also, you can speak to your consultant— missed. also, you can speak to your consultant if— missed. also, you can speak to your consultant if you are actively receiving _ consultant if you are actively receiving support. i think we have heard _ receiving support. i think we have heard from — receiving support. i think we have heard from nhs england that there will be _ heard from nhs england that there will be a _ heard from nhs england that there will be a better response in many parts _ will be a better response in many parts of _ will be a better response in many parts of the country that are affected, and that people should hear very— affected, and that people should hear very soon about that third primary— hear very soon about that third primary dose. 495 hear very soon about that third primary dose-— hear very soon about that third primary dose. hear very soon about that third rima dose. a . primary dose. as far as boosters are concerned. — primary dose. as far as boosters are concerned, chris, _ primary dose. as far as boosters are concerned, chris, and _ primary dose. as far as boosters are concerned, chris, and linda - primary dose. as far as boosters are concerned, chris, and linda explainl concerned, chris, and linda explain the difference between the booster and a third job, as far as boosters are concerned, a question here that is coming to breakfast this morning, asking "will we get booster vaccines every six months?" is this something we are going to have to get used to that often? fist we are going to have to get used to that often? �* ., ., �* that often? at the moment, we don't know. that often? at the moment, we don't know- what — that often? at the moment, we don't know- what we _ that often? at the moment, we don't know. what we do _ that often? at the moment, we don't know. what we do know _ that often? at the moment, we don't know. what we do know is _ that often? at the moment, we don't know. what we do know is that - that often? at the moment, we don't know. what we do know is that in - know. what we do know is that in response — know. what we do know is that in response to — know. what we do know is that in response to the _ know. what we do know is that in response to the vaccines, - know. what we do know is that in response to the vaccines, initially people _ response to the vaccines, initially people are — response to the vaccines, initially people are reatty _ response to the vaccines, initially people are really well _ response to the vaccines, initially people are really well protected. i response to the vaccines, initially i people are really well protected. by about _ people are really well protected. by about six _ people are really well protected. by about six months, _ people are really well protected. by about six months, if— people are really well protected. by about six months, if we _ people are really well protected. by about six months, if we look- people are really well protected. by about six months, if we look at - people are really well protected. by about six months, if we look at the| about six months, if we look at the tevet— about six months, if we look at the level of— about six months, if we look at the level of protection— about six months, if we look at the level of protection against - level of protection against infection. _ level of protection against infection, not— level of protection against infection, not severe - level of protection against i infection, not severe disease level of protection against - infection, not severe disease but infection. — infection, not severe disease but infection. it— infection, not severe disease but infection, it has _ infection, not severe disease but infection, it has fallen. _ infection, not severe disease but infection, it has fallen. about. infection, not severe disease buti infection, it has fallen. about two thirds _ infection, it has fallen. about two thirds of— infection, it has fallen. about two thirds of the — infection, it has fallen. about two thirds of the time _ infection, it has fallen. about two thirds of the time people - infection, it has fallen. about two thirds of the time people are - thirds of the time people are protected _ thirds of the time people are protected having _ thirds of the time people are protected having been - thirds of the time people are i protected having been double thirds of the time people are - protected having been double jabbed. because _ protected having been double jabbed. because the _ protected having been double jabbed. because the level— protected having been double jabbed. because the level of _ protected having been double jabbed. because the level of protection - because the level of protection falls and — because the level of protection falls and the _ because the level of protection falls and the antibody - because the level of protection falls and the antibody level- because the level of protection falls and the antibody level in i because the level of protection i falls and the antibody level in the blood _ falls and the antibody level in the blood to — falls and the antibody level in the blood to dwindle _ falls and the antibody level in the blood to dwindle with _ falls and the antibody level in the blood to dwindle with time, - falls and the antibody level in the blood to dwindle with time, it - falls and the antibody level in the . blood to dwindle with time, it seems sensible _ blood to dwindle with time, it seems sensible at— blood to dwindle with time, it seems sensible at this _ blood to dwindle with time, it seems sensible at this stage _ blood to dwindle with time, it seems sensible at this stage to _ blood to dwindle with time, it seems sensible at this stage to say - blood to dwindle with time, it seems sensible at this stage to say let's - sensible at this stage to say let's .ive sensible at this stage to say let's give people — sensible at this stage to say let's give people a _ sensible at this stage to say let's give people a booster— sensible at this stage to say let's give people a booster who - sensible at this stage to say let's give people a booster who are i give people a booster who are vulnerable. _ give people a booster who are vulnerable, top _ give people a booster who are vulnerable, top of _ give people a booster who are vulnerable, top of the - give people a booster who are l vulnerable, top of the antibody level. — vulnerable, top of the antibody level. top— vulnerable, top of the antibody level. top up— vulnerable, top of the antibody level, top up this _ vulnerable, top of the antibody level, top up this winter - vulnerable, top of the antibody level, top up this winter while. vulnerable, top of the antibody i level, top up this winter while we learn _ level, top up this winter while we learn more — level, top up this winter while we learn more. because _ level, top up this winter while we learn more. because there - level, top up this winter while we learn more. because there is- learn more. because there is underpinning _ learn more. because there is underpinning our— learn more. because there is underpinning our immune . learn more. because there is- underpinning our immune response a population— underpinning our immune response a population of— underpinning our immune response a population of cells _ underpinning our immune response a population of cells that _ underpinning our immune response a population of cells that have - underpinning our immune response a population of cells that have memory and can— population of cells that have memory and can remember— population of cells that have memory and can remember how— population of cells that have memory and can remember how to— population of cells that have memory and can remember how to make - and can remember how to make antibodies. _ and can remember how to make antibodies, because _ and can remember how to make antibodies, because they - and can remember how to make antibodies, because they can . and can remember how to make antibodies, because they can sitj antibodies, because they can sit there. _ antibodies, because they can sit there. they— antibodies, because they can sit there. they are _ antibodies, because they can sit there, they are not _ antibodies, because they can sit there, they are not going - antibodies, because they can sit there, they are not going to- antibodies, because they can sit there, they are not going to go. there, they are not going to go away — there, they are not going to go away it— there, they are not going to go away. it may— there, they are not going to go away. it may well— there, they are not going to go away. it may well be _ there, they are not going to go away. it may well be that - there, they are not going to go. away. it may well be that where there, they are not going to go- away. it may well be that where are we to _ away. it may well be that where are we to encounter— away. it may well be that where are we to encounter the _ away. it may well be that where are we to encounter the infection - away. it may well be that where are | we to encounter the infection again, regardless _ we to encounter the infection again, regardless of — we to encounter the infection again, regardless of having _ we to encounter the infection again, regardless of having a _ we to encounter the infection again, regardless of having a booster, - we to encounter the infection again, regardless of having a booster, we i regardless of having a booster, we would _ regardless of having a booster, we would still — regardless of having a booster, we would still be _ regardless of having a booster, we would still be protected. _ regardless of having a booster, we would still be protected. but - would still be protected. but because _ would still be protected. but because that _ would still be protected. but because that is _ would still be protected. but because that is a _ would still be protected. but because that is a high—risk. because that is a high—risk situation. _ because that is a high—risk situation, it— because that is a high—risk situation, it seems - because that is a high—risk. situation, it seems sensible because that is a high—risk- situation, it seems sensible at this stage _ situation, it seems sensible at this stage to _ situation, it seems sensible at this stage to do — situation, it seems sensible at this stage to do boosting _ situation, it seems sensible at this stage to do boosting in— situation, it seems sensible at this stage to do boosting in the - situation, it seems sensible at this stage to do boosting in the long i stage to do boosting in the long term. _ stage to do boosting in the long term. tearn— stage to do boosting in the long term, learn about _ stage to do boosting in the long term, learn about the _ stage to do boosting in the long term, learn about the virus. - stage to do boosting in the long term, learn about the virus. it i stage to do boosting in the long i term, learn about the virus. it may well be _ term, learn about the virus. it may well be that— term, learn about the virus. it may well be that after— term, learn about the virus. it may well be that after one _ term, learn about the virus. it may well be that after one round - term, learn about the virus. it may well be that after one round of - well be that after one round of boosters — well be that after one round of boosters we _ well be that after one round of boosters we have _ well be that after one round of boosters we have enough - well be that after one round of - boosters we have enough protection against _ boosters we have enough protection against all _ boosters we have enough protection against all coronaviruses _ boosters we have enough protection against all coronaviruses going - against all coronaviruses going forward. — against all coronaviruses going forward. that— against all coronaviruses going forward, that we _ against all coronaviruses going forward, that we are _ against all coronaviruses going forward, that we are not - against all coronaviruses going forward, that we are not going| against all coronaviruses going i forward, that we are not going to need _ forward, that we are not going to need to— forward, that we are not going to need to do— forward, that we are not going to need to do this _ forward, that we are not going to need to do this again. _ forward, that we are not going to need to do this again. but - forward, that we are not going to need to do this again. but there. need to do this again. but there might— need to do this again. but there might be — need to do this again. but there might be certain _ need to do this again. but there might be certain groups- need to do this again. but there might be certain groups in- need to do this again. but there i might be certain groups in society who are _ might be certain groups in society who are more _ might be certain groups in society who are more susceptible - might be certain groups in society who are more susceptible to - might be certain groups in society. who are more susceptible to repeats of ear— who are more susceptible to repeats of ear infections, _ who are more susceptible to repeats of ear infections, and _ who are more susceptible to repeats of ear infections, and they _ who are more susceptible to repeats of ear infections, and they are - of ear infections, and they are going — of ear infections, and they are going to — of ear infections, and they are going to be _ of ear infections, and they are going to be the _ of ear infections, and they are going to be the ones - of ear infections, and they are going to be the ones we - of ear infections, and they are going to be the ones we need| of ear infections, and they are i going to be the ones we need to focus _ going to be the ones we need to focus on — going to be the ones we need to focus on at _ going to be the ones we need to focus on. at this _ going to be the ones we need to focus on. at this stage, - going to be the ones we need to focus on. at this stage, we - going to be the ones we need to focus on. at this stage, we are i focus on. at this stage, we are still— focus on. at this stage, we are still in — focus on. at this stage, we are still in a — focus on. at this stage, we are still in a learning _ focus on. at this stage, we are still in a learning mode. - focus on. at this stage, we are still in a learning mode. i- focus on. at this stage, we are still in a learning mode. i remember when the pandemic— still in a learning mode. i remember when the pandemic started, - still in a learning mode. i remember when the pandemic started, we - still in a learning mode. i remember| when the pandemic started, we were told that you could develop symptoms up told that you could develop symptoms up to two weeks after being exposed to the virus. but anecdotally, everyone i know recently who has caught covid—i9 it seems to have caught covid—i9 it seems to have caught it within three or four days of being exposed to, or they think they have been exposed. is thatjust people i have spoken to, or are we changing our understanding of how quickly symptoms show up? it varies from person — quickly symptoms show up? it varies from person to _ quickly symptoms show up? it varies from person to person, _ quickly symptoms show up? it varies from person to person, and - quickly symptoms show up? it varies from person to person, and it - quickly symptoms show up? it varies from person to person, and it is - from person to person, and it is what _ from person to person, and it is what we — from person to person, and it is what we call— from person to person, and it is what we call a _ from person to person, and it is what we call a skewed - from person to person, and it is i what we call a skewed distribution. if what we call a skewed distribution. if you _ what we call a skewed distribution. if you do _ what we call a skewed distribution. if you do this— what we call a skewed distribution. if you do this on— what we call a skewed distribution. if you do this on a _ what we call a skewed distribution. if you do this on a graph, - what we call a skewed distribution. if you do this on a graph, you - what we call a skewed distribution. i if you do this on a graph, you would see that _ if you do this on a graph, you would see that the — if you do this on a graph, you would see that the shortest _ if you do this on a graph, you would see that the shortest incubation - see that the shortest incubation would _ see that the shortest incubation would be — see that the shortest incubation would be about _ see that the shortest incubation would be about one _ see that the shortest incubation would be about one or- see that the shortest incubation would be about one or two - see that the shortest incubation| would be about one or two days. see that the shortest incubation - would be about one or two days. the peak of _ would be about one or two days. the peak of the _ would be about one or two days. the peak of the graph— would be about one or two days. the peak of the graph would _ would be about one or two days. the peak of the graph would be - would be about one or two days. the peak of the graph would be about. peak of the graph would be about four or— peak of the graph would be about four or five — peak of the graph would be about four or five days. _ peak of the graph would be about four or five days. and _ peak of the graph would be about four or five days. and then - peak of the graph would be about four or five days. and then a - peak of the graph would be about four or five days. and then a very| four or five days. and then a very long _ four or five days. and then a very long tail— four or five days. and then a very long tail drifting _ four or five days. and then a very long tail drifting away _ four or five days. and then a very long tail drifting away to - four or five days. and then a very long tail drifting away to about i four or five days. and then a very. long tail drifting away to about two weeks _ long tail drifting away to about two weeks the — long tail drifting away to about two weeks. the longest _ long tail drifting away to about two weeks. the longest documented i weeks. the longest documented incubation— weeks. the longest documented incubation period _ weeks. the longest documented incubation period was _ weeks. the longest documented incubation period was about - weeks. the longest documented incubation period was about two| incubation period was about two weeks. — incubation period was about two weeks. but _ incubation period was about two weeks. but it— incubation period was about two weeks, but it is— incubation period was about two weeks, but it is very— incubation period was about two weeks, but it is very heavily- weeks, but it is very heavily front—loaded _ weeks, but it is very heavily front—loaded to— weeks, but it is very heavily front—loaded to a _ weeks, but it is very heavily front—loaded to a median i weeks, but it is very heavily- front—loaded to a median incubation period _ front—loaded to a median incubation period of— front—loaded to a median incubation period of four— front—loaded to a median incubation period of four or— front—loaded to a median incubation period of four or five _ front—loaded to a median incubation period of four or five days. - front-loaded to a median incubation period of four or five days.— period of four or five days. linda, we learned _ period of four or five days. linda, we learned so _ period of four or five days. linda, we learned so much, _ period of four or five days. linda, we learned so much, we - period of four or five days. linda, we learned so much, we have - period of four or five days. linda, i we learned so much, we have been learning, you have been teaching us, in terms of praises. twinemic, have you heard of this one? i in terms of praises. twinemic, have you heard of this one?— you heard of this one? i have been lookin: at you heard of this one? i have been looking at the _ you heard of this one? i have been looking at the effects _ you heard of this one? i have been looking at the effects of _ you heard of this one? i have been looking at the effects of staying i you heard of this one? i have been looking at the effects of staying at| looking at the effects of staying at home _ looking at the effects of staying at home when schools are being closed, but the _ home when schools are being closed, but the twinemic are something else. it is but the twinemic are something else. it is being _ but the twinemic are something else. it is being used to describe this accumulation of viruses that is occurring — accumulation of viruses that is occurring in the community now. i think— occurring in the community now. i think chris — occurring in the community now. i think chris and i have discussed this before. because we were distancing, wearing masks in many places. _ distancing, wearing masks in many places, many of us were working from home _ places, many of us were working from home last _ places, many of us were working from home last winter, we didn't have influenza — home last winter, we didn't have influenza and also rsv virus that also affects young children. you 'ust also affects young children. you just didn't — also affects young children. you just didn't see it in the numbers. the surveillance wasn't picking it up, people were not becoming unwell. it's different now. we are interacting a lot. twinemic is about these _ interacting a lot. twinemic is about these multiple viruses. speaking to colleagues in the nhs, they are absolutely seeing that now, and that is why— absolutely seeing that now, and that is why it _ absolutely seeing that now, and that is why it is _ absolutely seeing that now, and that is why it is so important that we .et is why it is so important that we get the — is why it is so important that we get the flu — is why it is so important that we get the flu vaccine programme running — get the flu vaccine programme running well and that people, when invited. _ running well and that people, when invited, take up their influenza vaccine — invited, take up their influenza vaccine along with covid—19. even though— vaccine along with covid—19. even though things are good and i'm feeling — though things are good and i'm feeling really optimistic about the pandemic, let's not forget what is actually— pandemic, let's not forget what is actually happening in the nhs now is incredibty— actually happening in the nhs now is incredibly serious, and this is going — incredibly serious, and this is going to _ incredibly serious, and this is going to be a really, really tough winter. _ going to be a really, really tough winter, and we need to do what we can to _ winter, and we need to do what we can to help— winter, and we need to do what we can to help our clinical colleagues cope _ can to help our clinical colleagues cope with — can to help our clinical colleagues cope with patients.— cope with patients. message understood _ cope with patients. message understood loud _ cope with patients. message understood loud and - cope with patients. message understood loud and clear. i cope with patients. message - understood loud and clear. what we have also enjoyed throughout the pandemic is the budding relationship between chris and linda. they sometimes get to talk to each other, because they debate, but linda, you very rarely get to ask chris a question. very rarely get to ask chris a question-— very rarely get to ask chris a ruestion. ., ., ., , ., question. you have on this morning. i do. we question. you have on this morning. i do- we know _ question. you have on this morning. i do. we know that _ question. you have on this morning. i do. we know that a _ question. you have on this morning. i do. we know that a number- question. you have on this morning. i do. we know that a number of- i do. we know that a number of months — i do. we know that a number of months ago, chris and i have talked about— months ago, chris and i have talked about plants and clocks. he had a little _ about plants and clocks. he had a little tiny— about plants and clocks. he had a little tiny venus fly trap and that is one _ little tiny venus fly trap and that is one of— little tiny venus fly trap and that is one of these plants which will unfortunately eat things, including insects _ unfortunately eat things, including insects. last week, he sent me a picture _ insects. last week, he sent me a picture after we were on the programme of this plant, and it has grown _ programme of this plant, and it has grown incredibly. ijust would like to see _ grown incredibly. ijust would like to see it— grown incredibly. ijust would like to see it now, i would like the viewers — to see it now, i would like the viewers to— to see it now, i would like the viewers to see it.— to see it now, i would like the viewers to see it. . , ., , viewers to see it. yes, you remember i showed viewers to see it. yes, you remember i showed this — viewers to see it. yes, you remember i showed this about _ viewers to see it. yes, you remember i showed this about a _ viewers to see it. yes, you remember i showed this about a year _ viewers to see it. yes, you remember i showed this about a year ago - i showed this about a year ago because — i showed this about a year ago because it _ i showed this about a year ago because it was _ i showed this about a year ago because it was flowering - i showed this about a year agoj because it was flowering then, i showed this about a year ago - because it was flowering then, but my son _ because it was flowering then, but my son has — because it was flowering then, but my son has been _ because it was flowering then, but my son has been feeding - because it was flowering then, but my son has been feeding this - because it was flowering then, but my son has been feeding this very| my son has been feeding this very eagerly _ my son has been feeding this very eagerly you — my son has been feeding this very eagerly you can _ my son has been feeding this very eagerly. you can see _ my son has been feeding this very eagerly. you can see it _ my son has been feeding this very eagerly. you can see it has - my son has been feeding this very eagerly. you can see it has now. my son has been feeding this very. eagerly. you can see it has now got incredibty— eagerly. you can see it has now got incredibly large _ eagerly. you can see it has now got incredibly large. in— eagerly. you can see it has now got incredibly large. in fact _ eagerly. you can see it has now got incredibly large. in fact it _ eagerly. you can see it has now got incredibly large. in fact it is- incredibly large. in fact it is sufficiently— incredibly large. in fact it is sufficiently large _ incredibly large. in fact it is sufficiently large that - incredibly large. in fact it is sufficiently large that we i incredibly large. in fact it is. sufficiently large that we may incredibly large. in fact it is- sufficiently large that we may be able to _ sufficiently large that we may be able to split _ sufficiently large that we may be able to split theirs. _ sufficiently large that we may be able to split theirs. they - sufficiently large that we may be able to split theirs. they are - able to split theirs. they are actuatty _ able to split theirs. they are actuatty a _ able to split theirs. they are actually a native _ able to split theirs. they are actually a native of - able to split theirs. they are actually a native of the - able to split theirs. they are - actually a native of the carolinas in america _ actually a native of the carolinas in america. they— actually a native of the carolinas in america. they really- actually a native of the carolinas in america. they really like - actually a native of the carolinas in america. they really like a - actually a native of the carolinas| in america. they really like a hot summer— in america. they really like a hot summer and _ in america. they really like a hot summer and a _ in america. they really like a hot summer and a cold _ in america. they really like a hot summer and a cold winter. - in america. they really like a hot summer and a cold winter. they| in america. they really like a hot - summer and a cold winter. they grow from bulbs _ summer and a cold winter. they grow from bulbs like — summer and a cold winter. they grow from bulbs like daffodils _ summer and a cold winter. they grow from bulbs like daffodils so _ summer and a cold winter. they grow from bulbs like daffodils so you - summer and a cold winter. they grow from bulbs like daffodils so you can i from bulbs like daffodils so you can split them — from bulbs like daffodils so you can split them you _ from bulbs like daffodils so you can split them. you can _ from bulbs like daffodils so you can split them. you can have _ from bulbs like daffodils so you can split them. you can have multiple i split them. you can have multiple hungry— split them. you can have multiple hungry venus _ split them. you can have multiple hungry venus fly _ split them. you can have multiple hungry venus fly traps. _ split them. you can have multiple hungry venus fly traps.— split them. you can have multiple hungry venus fly traps. when you say our son hungry venus fly traps. when you say your son has — hungry venus fly traps. when you say your son has been _ hungry venus fly traps. when you say your son has been feeding _ hungry venus fly traps. when you say your son has been feeding it, - hungry venus fly traps. when you say your son has been feeding it, he - hungry venus fly traps. when you say your son has been feeding it, he has. your son has been feeding it, he has literally been tweezers, flies... let's not. literally been tweezers, flies... let's not-— literally been tweezers, flies... let's not. . ., ., ., , let's not. yeah, it has a voracious a- etite. let's not. yeah, it has a voracious appetite. unfortunately, - let's not. yeah, it has a voracious appetite. unfortunately, the - let's not. yeah, it has a voraciousj appetite. unfortunately, the flight are fighting — appetite. unfortunately, the flight are fighting back, _ appetite. unfortunately, the flight are fighting back, because - appetite. unfortunately, the flight are fighting back, because it- appetite. unfortunately, the flight are fighting back, because it now. are fighting back, because it now has a _ are fighting back, because it now has a case — are fighting back, because it now has a case of— are fighting back, because it now has a case of aphids _ are fighting back, because it now has a case of aphids preying - are fighting back, because it now has a case of aphids preying on. are fighting back, because it now. has a case of aphids preying on the venus— has a case of aphids preying on the venus fly— has a case of aphids preying on the venus fly traps _ has a case of aphids preying on the venus fly traps i_ has a case of aphids preying on the venus fly traps. i will _ has a case of aphids preying on the venus fly traps. i will need - has a case of aphids preying on the venus fly traps. i will need to - has a case of aphids preying on the venus fly traps. i will need to get i venus fly traps. i will need to get an venus fly traps. ! will need to get an environmentally— venus fly traps. i will need to get an environmentally friendly - venus fly traps. i will need to geti an environmentally friendly spray. if an environmentally friendly spray. if you _ an environmentally friendly spray. if you need — an environmentally friendly spray. if you need some _ an environmentally friendly spray. if you need some recipes, - an environmentally friendly spray. if you need some recipes, guys, i an environmentally friendly spray. i if you need some recipes, guys, for flight food. we knowjust the person. flight food. we know 'ust the erson. . ~' flight food. we know 'ust the erson. ., ~' flight food. we know 'ust the erson. . ~ , flight food. we know 'ust the erson. n , person. take care, we will see you next week- — person. take care, we will see you next week. eating _ person. take care, we will see you next week. eating insects - person. take care, we will see you next week. eating insects is - person. take care, we will see you next week. eating insects is quite. next week. eating insects is quite trendy in some places. not flies. i've eaten scorpion. matt, good morning. good morning. i love the fact chris hasn't _ good morning. i love the fact chris hasn't taken — good morning. i love the fact chris hasn't taken the price of on a plant he has _ hasn't taken the price of on a plant he has had — hasn't taken the price of on a plant he has had for ages. do _ he has had for ages. do you _ he has had for ages. do you have plants? my wife does. they are _ do you have plants? my wife does. they are nice to have around. shall we carry— they are nice to have around. shall we carry on— they are nice to have around. shall we carry on talking about plants or food? _ food? if - food? if you could foo... — if you could make it more interesting! give it a go! thanks very much! how are your— give it a go! thanks very much! how are your dad — give it a go! thanks very much! how are your dad jokes? i 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that. we will see you at 10am. - just in case you are doing that. we will see you at 10am. you i just in case you are doing that. we will see you at 10am. you have rot some we will see you at 10am. you have got some plants. _ we will see you at 10am. you have got some plants, we _ we will see you at 10am. you have got some plants, we could - we will see you at 10am. you have got some plants, we could bring i we will see you at 10am. you have i got some plants, we could bring you into the weekly plant discussion. they have been like that for years and years. — they have been like that for years and years, they don't change. you _ and years, they don't change. you have _ and years, they don't change. you have kept them so well tended, they don't even need water! mike's here now, as the anticipation builds ahead of tomorrow's london marathon. i love watching it, one of the big events of the year. we all know somebody who is doing it or who has done it, one of the most amazing days ever. think about what you should eat the day before. lots of spaghetti. you are going to interview paula radcliffe. the legend when it comes to marathons. i the legend when it comes to marathons-— the legend when it comes to marathons. �* ~ ., ., marathons. i didn't know you had done training _ marathons. i didn't know you had done training with _ marathons. i didn't know you had done training with paula - marathons. i didn't know you had | done training with paula radcliffe. the only time i could keep up with her was when i was tied to her and blindfolded, any race for the visually impaired, 5km, a fascinating experiment. more than 40,000 people will be pounding the pavements of the capital, as the london marathon makes its comeback. it will be a return to some normality as last year's event was limited to just elite runners with thousands forced to take part virtually because of the pandemic. this is the kind of scene we have been missing. joining me now is three— time london marathon winner, paula radcliffe. i don't want to remind you of the time i was tied to you, with a blindfold. it was understanding how difficult it is to negotiate the race. it has been six years since you last ran the london marathon. do you still get the butterflies the day before? just hearing the theme music before we come on air already gets the adrenaline flowing, the memories flowing. and this year it will be more powerful and more emotional than ever because it is 889 days since the last london marathon took place on the traditional course, and we have all missed it. so many people are moved and excited about the fact we will be able to get together again in a mass participation race, and share that camaraderie and inspirational stories, the spirit that makes the london marathon. absolutely. you say the time people have waited. many runners tomorrow they will have been training for two years because they would have started before christmas 2019 expecting it to be in april 2020. finally it is now here.— finally it is now here. they have had their opportunity _ finally it is now here. they have had their opportunity to - finally it is now here. they havej had their opportunity to transfer over to a virtual race last year or roll it over into this year. so many will have got ready, been disappointed, taken a break, started back. other people will have been able to pick up that opportunity, a lot of people turned to running during the pandemic, i am not saying they were able to get into the mouth and on time, but got into the virtual marathon. it will set a record for the biggest ever mass participation race on a single day because of the 40,000 taking part in the regular race, and 55,000 in the virtual race on the same day. it has gone up from when i was speaking the other day. it is this rare event where mere mortals like myself, the fun run is doing it for personal causes, can run alongside the elite superstars even though some distance behind. that is what makes it unique, special, on that day, on those streets along that coast, 40,000 people sharing the same emotions, the same adventure, the same experience helping each other, becoming almost like one big happy family of marathon running, and the amounts raised for charity and inspirational stories of what people have ever come to complete the marathon continue to move us. over 66,000,000 was raised for charity in 2019, let us go back to your experience, your world record which stood for 16 years. how do you look back on that life—changing day? i look back at footage, it looks a long time ago! it doesn't feel a long time ago! it doesn't feel a long time ago but i am sure if i try to run anywhere close to that time it would feel a long time ago. it was important for me already in 2002, a very special moment to get that opportunity to finally run in the london marathon. i had dreamt of winning it and the london marathon. i had dreamt of winning itand if the london marathon. i had dreamt of winning it and if myself at the front and to come very close to the world record that day, and went to chicago and set the world record. i really wanted to bring it home to london and i know for a british athlete, people say london isn't the fastest course, but with the support and magic and history of the london marathon, for me it was a fast course. i don't think i could have run as fast on any other course. it was the best i could get out of myself that day and without a shadow of a doubt london helped. you are right about the crowd, whatever standard of running you are, the crowd give you such a lift every step of the way, that is one of the special things. one of the things we advise athletes is if you are running to put your name on the shut because the crowd will cheer you the whole way. or the person you are running for. today, all those people doing it for the first time, what are your top tips for the day before, what should they be doing? very little the day before, concentrating on drinking, as you said, prioritising carbohydrate intake so your muscle glycogen stores are ready. planning tomorrow morning so you are not stressed. it is different this year with the way people are being asked to go to the start, wait in the holding area, go in different waves, to help distance them. take something old with you to keep yourself warm while you are hanging around at the start. it will go to a good home, you can donate it, they go to charity shops all over london. it is worth starting already comfortable. you make a good point about the measures, the number of people and course at the same time, lio different start waves. it might be better because you won't be so congested getting through. the experience will still be the same, there are still 1,000 in each wave, they are allowing three minutes for each wave to get through. that experience will still be there. but you should have a clearer run over the course. more advice is not to start too quickly, when you are held back, you can't start quickly. keep the brakes on in the first half of the rate. it is so important to take in the first few miles, build up slowly before saving yourself at the end. absolutely, build into it. they say you hit halfway at 20 miles. you want to aim to get across tower bridge and feel like you have got another year for the second half. there is nothing like that feeling, so many say, it is one of the best days of their lives. it is. such a privilege for us to sit in the position we sit, 150 metres before the finish just after the runners make the turn from buckingham palace, they can see the finish, you see the emotion and fatigue, what it means to them. the most inspiring place to sit. thank you for your time and your top tips, so important. we look forward to watching tomorrow. plenty more build—up on breakfast from 6am. i am still excited even though i am watching from the sofa. here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. a lovely picture. i found you some sunshine, and the skies will be like this for tomorrow. we have a bit of sunshine across northern and eastern areas. things are changing. more like this across the west, most of us will see rain in the day. strongest winds in the south—east of england. sunshine again tomorrow. the worst of the winds in the far north of scotland due to this cloud moving from the atlantic stretching across. underneath the cloud this is where we have a developing area of low pressure working northwards, and we will see the strongest winds on the east and edged. here is the rain at the moment, hit and miss across southern scotland, northern england, northern ireland. extensive rain at the moment over wales and south—west england spreading across much of england spreading across much of england and wales, heaviest here. northern ireland will brighten up. turning cloudy across central scotland with outbreaks of rain. edinburgh down to newcastle you might get away with staying dry. dressed in the far north of scotland. 11—15 , not dressed in the far north of scotland. 11— 15 , not particularly nice with the rain. the strongest winds over east anglia, up to 60mph causing travel disruption later. windy to end the day, lots of rain across the eastern half of the country but that will ease tonight. staying in place in the far north of scotland. some clear skies in between, fairly cool tonight. a fresh start to sunday morning with temperatures in single figures. this is the weather for sunday, low pressure to the north. bringing gusts of winds up to 70mph over shetland causing damage and disruption. showers in the west. eastern areas starting with lighter winds and sunshine but one or two showers in the afternoon. wettest conditions north and west scotland, temperatures up to 17. for the london marathon, it will be almost perfect weather conditions, the breeze picking up later, one or two showers later in the afternoon but for most age dry and fine day. unlike conditions at exeter for the big match between exeter city —— with exeter city. two managers called matt taylor, and our weatherman. whenever you are on it is always matt taylor day! have a good weekend. see you later. earlier this morning the first european mission to explore mercury finally got a quick glimpse of the solar system's smallest planet. the bepi colombo probe raced over the surface before heading back out into deep space. the ultimate aim is for the spacecraft to eventually drop into the planet's orbit. we're joined now by professor david rothery, who is part of the team overseeing the progress of the mission. it was played down how much we would see. yes, we did play it down and quite wisely, the first pictures were overexposed but what you are seeing now is a lovely picture. these are not science cameras but afterthoughts added to the spacecraft a couple of years before launch. the science instruments won't operate until we get into orbit. we have several flybys of mercury. the spacecraft splits into its component parts and the main cameras will then operate. at the moment it is happy snaps as we whizzed by but what a wonderful view of the planet. the picture being released this morning, what is it we are seeing? we are looking at a large part of the northern hemisphere of mercury. north is towards the bottom right and you are seeing a cratered surface. areas which have been smoothed by vast outpourings of volcanic lava, some of the brighter areas that are where there have been volcanic explosions in the distant past and also where today parts of the surface material is dissipating to space. when we see high resolution images such as from nasa, and we will get even better in orbit, you can see at the top 20 metres of the surface is dissipating to space giving steep sided hollows. there is no atmosphere, no wind to blow the dust away. it is turning into atoms and being lost to space, volatile material even though it is a lot of rock. we don't know how this planet is made up and we really want to find out. and it is hot there. it is very hot by day, 400 by day but because there is no atmosphere it gets very cold at night, —150. a planet of great extremes. cold at night, -150. a olanet of rreat extremes. ., ., . a planet of great extremes. how does that work with — a planet of great extremes. how does that work with the _ a planet of great extremes. how does that work with the bepi _ a planet of great extremes. how does that work with the bepi colombo, - a planet of great extremes. how does that work with the bepi colombo, the | that work with the bepi colombo, the probe, how close it can get and how physically it copes. this will take a long time. it physically it copes. this will take a long time. it is a tourh this will take a long time. it is a tough enrolment _ this will take a long time. it is a tough enrolment to _ this will take a long time. it is a tough enrolment to operate - this will take a long time. it is a tough enrolment to operate a i tough enrolment to operate a spacecraft in. on the day side of the planet, you have the sun on one side three times closer to you than you are in earth, so you are baked from both sides. to get there we had to fly six times past the planet slowing down each time. on the seventh approach before christmas 2025 we will go slowly into orbit and orbiting the planet at a height of between 300km and 1,000km above the surface. that is a safe orbit and we hope to operate their for up to four years getting an awful lot of scientific data from a wide range of scientific data from a wide range of instruments. notjust european but a japanese spacecraft travelling with us which is why we can't do much science because we have the japanese spacecraft on my way and the propulsion unit on the other. in orbit we separate and everything can turn on and do i hope a really great job. today's pictures are a teaser for the great things to come we hope. another four years until we get the real close—ups. it is more than that, it is just before christmas 2025 we get into orbit, then we have to live it into our science orbit, so it is april 2026 when the real data will flow. this is a marathon, a day to talk about marathons. the bepi colombo is definitely a marathon and not a sprint. we look forward to speaking to you in 5.5 years! i hope they take the lens cap off! yes, somebody�*s head will be on the block if it doesn't! having underplayed it before, it is nice to see the reality and sent your enthusiasm. with that background behind you, you would be perfect to talk about our next story as well. we are talking about strictly. right now they will be arriving at the studio, rehearsing. there'll be some last minute stretches and routine prep for the strictly contestants today, as they get ready for the second live show this evening. it starts getting serious, somebody gets kicked out this week. they'll be showing off their foxtrots and quicksteps but tom fletcher and partner amy dowden will be missing out on the action after testing positive for covid. let's remind ourselves of how last week's opening night went. applause # everybody needs somebody to love. # shake it off. # shake it off. # how does it feel when your heart goes cold? # i am begging, begging you, so put your loving hand out, baby. # i am begging, begging you. # i am begging, begging you. # so put your loving hand out, darling. # do you remember dancing in september? isaid i said gentle introduction! that was really competitive. we're joined now by the professional dancers and brothers aj and curtis pritchard. we spoke last time just before it was happening. as we were watching, a day, you thought it was strong. week one, everybody gave it everything. nobody held back and thatis everything. nobody held back and that is what you want. but you know going into the second week, they will have done the camera block, they know there will be an elimination, someone is going home, the mood changes, the studio feels, everyone is positive and excited, but they know somebody could be going home, hopefully not me. explain the camera block, it is a technical thing, you have to go through everything step—by—step with the cameras. fundamentally, you stand there, the lights go red, it is done as though you would go home. if you are unfortunately that person who goes home, you know where to walk, you know what to say, talk to tess and claudia. it is nerve—racking. i would always tell my partner, ignore it, don't take too much notice. remember your routine. every week it becomes more serious. it is the first time they hear that music. it is always ten times longer than you think. we see the results show and see someone will go home but you are stuck there for ages, it is nerve—racking. they play with your emotions. i remember when dan was announced as being one of the contestants, he said his kid had said, don't get kicked out first. that is pressure. i don't think he has to worry about that, he did a fantastic quickstep. he is a tall person, it is harder to dance, your limbs are long, he held his position strong, gliding across the floor, it was perfect for week one. let us stay positive. who else should we look out for? ibrj let us stay positive. who else should we look out for? a] and kai. technirue should we look out for? a] and kai. technique you _ should we look out for? a] and kai. technique you don't _ should we look out for? a] and kai. technique you don't worry - should we look out for? a] and kai. technique you don't worry about i should we look out for? a] and kai. | technique you don't worry about too much on week one. but that was high energy and impact. next week they have a foxtrot, the complete opposite. sorry, tonight. the opposite. sorry, tonight. the opposite end of the scale. can she calm it down, keep it smooth and elegant? they came first last week. she needs to focus on her heels, it will be a very different week. adam peaty is seen as one, you are laughing, he has made no secret he is competitive and training hard. it is exciting to see him give everything, look at him go. no holding back. as a slow dance telling a story, it will be harder, especially for the athletes. it is notjust especially for the athletes. it is not just who especially for the athletes. it is notjust who is especially for the athletes. it is not just who is first past the line, it is about emotions, controlling it, telling that story. it is timing with these lower dancers _ dancers. he - dancers. he has power. and you have to act. different people bringing different skills to the dance floor. giovanni and rose, something everybody has been enthralled by because it is something so different we have not seen on strictly. seeing rose perform this first dance, it was nice to see her personality. she has a very lively dance this week, the salsa. we should explain she is hard—of—hearing. yes, she feels the music, the lead is important, giovanni is working on that. you can see here, she is saying the words to the music, trying to keep the focus, giovanni is staying close, so i feel like this partnership will develop. he is learning sign anguish which is nice and she appreciates that. ijust and she appreciates that. i just want her to and she appreciates that. ijust want her to keep herfeet ijust want her to keep her feet closer— ijust want her to keep her feet closer together because when you have long — closer together because when you have long legs, you can forget that and it— have long legs, you can forget that and it finishes off all the steps and it finishes off all the steps and keep— and it finishes off all the steps and keep it clean. it and keep it clean. it is _ and keep it clean. it is brave, the easiest thing in the first week would be for them and hold so it was brave for them to leap in and do that. 100%. keeping somebody in hold, you can drag _ 100%. keeping somebody in hold, you can drag them around and keep them on time _ on time. as- on time. as it is technically on time — as it is technically known! you were talking about dan and his height and rose and the length of her legs. adam peaty, big, broad, is thatan issue,is adam peaty, big, broad, is thatan issue, is it a hindrance? more muscle can sometimes mean you are not— more muscle can sometimes mean you are not as _ more muscle can sometimes mean you are not as flexible. if you put your arms— are not as flexible. if you put your arms up— are not as flexible. if you put your arms up in— are not as flexible. if you put your arms up in ballroom, that can happen — arms up in ballroom, that can happen. we want to shoulders down and long _ happen. we want to shoulders down and long limbs. someone like ugo, a rugby player, big guy? with adam, not saying dan isn't an olympic— with adam, not saying dan isn't an olympic athlete! he _ olympic athlete! he isn't an olympic athlete. it is about control. _ he isn't an olympic athlete. it is about control. it _ he isn't an olympic athlete. it 3 about control. it should be easy to understand your muscle groups. with ugo, he is a big guy, it is about finesse which will be harder and the little details. but again he is giving it everything. everyone looks brilliant. that _ giving it everything. everyone looks brilliant. that was _ giving it everything. everyone looks brilliant. that was a _ giving it everything. everyone looks brilliant. that was a very _ giving it everything. everyone looks brilliant. that was a very strong - brilliant. that was a very strong first week- _ first week. i— first week. i leap —— i like the second first week. — i leap —— i like the second week where _ i leap —— i like the second week where someone has gone from a slow to a quick— where someone has gone from a slow to a quick dance, you see the different— to a quick dance, you see the different personality. john _ different personality. john and johannes and their tango, oh, john and johannes and their tango, oh. my— john and johannes and their tango, oh, my gosh. we john and johannes and their tango, oh. my gosh-— that's all we have time for this morning. breakfast will be back tomorrow from six. enjoy the rest of your day. bye— bye. this is bbc news. i'm shaun ley. these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world. the home secretary says police must raise the bar, by taking the harassment of women more seriously. her thoughts are echoed by health secretary sajid javid. what the metropolitan police have said about the reforms that they will be looking at i think is absolutely right. we need to also be looking at what bore a government can do to help build that confidence. the army will begin delivering fuel to petrol stations across the uk from monday, after days of queuing at the pumps. provisional clinical trial results suggest an experimental drug for severe covid cuts the risk of hospitalisation or death by about half. and two new streams of lava, pose a further threat of destruction as 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