i speak with three people who dared to follow their dream. they hadn't done it, for nearly half a century but finally sheffield united, have won at old trafford in one of the biggest shocks of the premier league season. and double olympic rowing champion helen glover tells breakfast about her return to the sport. today once again a band of heavy rain and hillsnow today once again a band of heavy rain and hill snow pushing northwards and eastwards. in a northern scotland some sunshine, but cold. behind that for southern england and wales, it will brighten up, and it's going to be very mild for the time of year. all the details later in the programme. good morning. it's thursday the 28th of january. our top story. it will be at least another five weeks of lockdown for england, after borisjohnson said schools will not re—open fully to all pupils until the 8th of march at the earliest. the prime minister says he'll outline at the end of february how the latest restrictions might be eased. it comes as a new study suggests infection levels are still very high. jon donnison reports. for now, home—schooling is here to stay. for now, home-schooling is here to sta . ~ ., , stay. we hope it will therefore be safe to begin _ stay. we hope it will therefore be safe to begin the _ stay. we hope it will therefore be safe to begin the reopening - stay. we hope it will therefore be safe to begin the reopening of. safe to begin the reopening of schools — safe to begin the reopening of schools from _ safe to begin the reopening of schools from monday - safe to begin the reopening of schools from monday the - safe to begin the reopening of schools from monday the 8th| safe to begin the reopening of. schools from monday the 8th of march — schools from monday the 8th of march with _ schools from monday the 8th of march. with other— schools from monday the 8th of march. with other economic - schools from monday the 8th of| march. with other economic and social_ march. with other economic and social restrictions _ march. with other economic and social restrictions been - march. with other economic and social restrictions been removed thereafter— social restrictions been removed thereafter as _ social restrictions been removed thereafter as and _ social restrictions been removed thereafter as and when - social restrictions been removed thereafter as and when the - social restrictions been removed thereafter as and when the data| thereafter as and when the data permits — thereafter as and when the data ermits. , , . . , permits. there were few specifics, but later, permits. there were few specifics, but later. the _ permits. there were few specifics, but later, the downing _ permits. there were few specifics, but later, the downing street - but later, the downing street briefing, borisjohnson did promise to present a broader plan for getting out of lockdown. in to present a broader plan for getting out of lockdown. in the week bearinnin getting out of lockdown. in the week beginning 22nd _ getting out of lockdown. in the week beginning 22nd of— getting out of lockdown. in the week beginning 22nd of february, - getting out of lockdown. in the week beginning 22nd of february, we - getting out of lockdown. in the week beginning 22nd of february, we willl beginning 22nd of february, we will set out _ beginning 22nd of february, we will set out our— beginning 22nd of february, we will set out our client, _ beginning 22nd of february, we will set out our client, not _ beginning 22nd of february, we will set out our client, not just - beginning 22nd of february, we will set out our client, not just for - set out our client, not just for reopening _ set out our client, not just for reopening our— set out our client, not just for reopening our schools, - set out our client, not just for reopening our schools, but. set out our client, not just for - reopening our schools, but gradually to reopen _ reopening our schools, but gradually to reopen our— reopening our schools, but gradually to reopen our economy— reopening our schools, but gradually to reopen our economy and - reopening our schools, but gradually to reopen our economy and our- to reopen our economy and our society, — to reopen our economy and our society. and _ to reopen our economy and our society. and to _ to reopen our economy and our society, and to get _ to reopen our economy and our society, and to get our - to reopen our economy and our society, and to get our lives . to reopen our economy and our. society, and to get our lives back to as _ society, and to get our lives back to as close — society, and to get our lives back to as close to _ society, and to get our lives back to as close to normal _ society, and to get our lives back to as close to normal as - society, and to get our lives backl to as close to normal as possible. but that _ to as close to normal as possible. but that timetable _ to as close to normal as possible. but that timetable will— to as close to normal as possible. but that timetable will depend . to as close to normal as possible. but that timetable will depend onj but that timetable will depend on the numbers, which are mixed. the latest daily uk figures show 1725 new deaths were reported, the second—highest number so far the pandemic struck. more than 37,000 people were in hospital with coronavirus over the seven days to the 25th of january. but new cases are continuing to fall, with 25,308 new infections recorded in the latest 24—hour period. and more than 7 million people have now received the first dose of a vaccine. taste 7 million people have now received the first dose of a vaccine. we have certainly seen _ the first dose of a vaccine. we have certainly seen fairly _ the first dose of a vaccine. we have certainly seen fairly dramatic- the first dose of a vaccine. we have certainly seen fairly dramatic drops| certainly seen fairly dramatic drops are in case numbers, hospitalisations, new hospitalisations, new hospitalisations are declining quite rapidly now, and i think we're going to see the death rate as well starting to decline. it has certainly plateaued and has started to dip at last. so hopefully we are past the worst. to dip at last. so hopefully we are past the worst-— to dip at last. so hopefully we are past the worst. much will depend on the continued _ past the worst. much will depend on the continued vaccine _ past the worst. much will depend on the continued vaccine roll-out, - past the worst. much will depend on the continued vaccine roll-out, but i the continued vaccine roll—out, but after more than 100,000 deaths, and with hospitals still stretched, any sense of optimism can only be cautious. jon donnison, bbc news. the prime minister will visit scotland later, where he's expected to stress the benefits of uk—wide co—operation during the pandemic. however, the trip has been met with criticism from scotland's first minister, nicola sturgeon, who has questioned whether it's an essentialjourney. 0ur political correspondent, nick eardley, has the story. this is borisjohnson visiting nicola sturgeon in 2019, just after he became prime minister. booing. but they won't be shaking hands today. with travel banned, ms sturgeon has questioned whether the visit is essential. downing street says it is. the prime minister intends to make the case for scotland remaining in the uk. he believes the pandemic shows the benefits of cooperation, pointing to funding for public services, the uk—wide furlough scheme, and the vaccine bought by the uk government then distributed by the scottish government. the snp, though, say the government in london is panicking. a series of polls over the last six months suggests support for independence is now higher than support for the uk. when scotland goes to the polls in may, the snp will put independence front and centre. if they win, which looks likely, they'll demand another referendum. london plans to say no, but the debate over independence isn't going away, and some believe that blocking another referendum will only make it more popular. nick eardley, bbc news. astrazeneca bosses have met with eu officials to try to resolve their dispute over a shortage of the oxford vaccine. the eu is demanding that tens of millions of doses produced in the uk should be diverted to the rest of europe. mark lobel reports. the eu's roll—out of the oxford astrazeneca vaccine it hopes to approve on friday is already in doubt. the bloc is fuming after suggestions it may only get around a third of what it expects. pharmaceutical companies, vaccine developers, have moral, societal, and contractual responsibilities which they need to uphold. astrazeneca has reported production delays in the netherlands and belgium. the eu says these unaffected production sites in the uk should provide the shortfall. the uk factories are part of our advance purchase agreement, and this is why they have to deliver. but astrazeneca has other customers, too, including the uk. they could be affected in a tit—for—tat threat dubbed vaccine nationalism if the eu restricts exports of other vaccines made within the bloc to deal with the shortfall. we are very confident in our supplies, - we very— confident in our contracts, and we are going. ahead on that basis. astrazeneca denies eu claims it is backtracking on its commitments in order to sell its vaccines for profit elsewhere. but as this bitter row grows, the eu wants its contract with astrazeneca, which the pharmaceutical company says was signed three months after the uk agreed theirs, to be made public. it may be that the uk has got favourable contractual terms, and actually, you know, has benefited from being first in line, and actually, the eu has more of a, as we've heard, reasonable endeavours clause in the contract on the part of astrazeneca, such that it is not in such a tight contractual mechanism. but as eu countries suffer delays with other vaccines, the eu's health commissioner says this current row should not come down to first come first served, saying that logic may work in the butcher's shop, but not for these advanced purchase agreements. mark lobel, bbc news. a team of world health organization investigators is set to begin looking into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic in china, after a number of delays. the scientists have now finished their quarantine in the central city of wuhan, where the first cases were detected more than a year ago. however, their movements will still be restricted, due to extra virus prevention measures. social workers are braced for a "tsunami of needs" as the uk recovers from the pandemic, a union has warned. a survey by the british association of social workers suggests that three quarters of its members feel the restrictions have affected their ability to protect vulnerable children and adults. 0ur wales correspondent, tomos morgan, has the story. for the majority of social workers across the uk, caseloads were already close or already full before the pandemic started, and as restrictions eased, there came a flood of new cases. itjust feels like we are kind of cementing over the cracks, but not actually getting to the foundation of what's really going on. minniejackson, which isn't her real name, is a social worker who deals with children. she has real concerns that a higher workload coupled with social distancing measures that means that face—to—face visits are now few and far between could be having a knock—on effect on her work. i think there's that constant worry that, am i missing something? is there something here that i'm not seeing? and how can i actually do the meaningful work through a computer screen or through a mobile phone? a special survey released today has looked at the effect the pandemic has had on social workers. 0ver over two thirds of members working with children said that referrals or their caseload had increased after schools returned after lockdown last year. and the union fears the workload may increase again after these latest set of restrictions are used. and over three quarters of members have said that lockdown restrictions had increased their concerns about social worker�* capacity to both safeguard and protect children and adults. fiur protect children and adults. our fear is that _ protect children and adults. oi" fear is that there is to be an absolute tsunami of need, which will translate into increased referral and increased demand on the profession. the devolved governments across the four nations have said that social work is a priority for them, that workers have played a crucial role in helping communities in difficult circumstances, and that there will be investment for further staffing in the future. but for minnie and her colleagues, the work to help the most vulnerable in our society may take some time to heal. tomos morgan, bbc news. most zoos across the world remain closed, but a giant panda cub has still won legions of new fans after making his first appearance online. xiao qiji was born in washington dc in august last year. during his debut appearance on the smithsonian national zoo�*s live web—stream, he played some tug—of—war with his keeper and polished off a plate of sweet potato — you might be able to hear him chomping away. no, he is a very polite. methodical, going about his business, no fuss. do you genuinely believe that the panda plan how to eat the food? yes, i do. now the weather with carol. good morning, everybody. if you are heading out today, these are the kind of temperatures we have seen recently. “4 in bell moral, but earlier in the night, it was —7 elsewhere in scotland. edinburgh three, bradford four, belfast six, and then enter the really mild air already ten in london and 11 in cardiff. we have also had a lot of rain moving northwards and eastwards, this is of course exacerbating the current flooding situation and we have had some hill snow as well across the hills of northern england and also scotland. that will continue through the day, most of the snow will be above 200 metres or so, in the snow will rise across the pennines throughout the day. but we could start to see it accumulate at 200 metres for example in the highlands and grampian. behind that, brightening up, some sunshine coming through before the next band of rain comes in from the west, and wales in the south—west remaining fairly cloudy and drizzly. some sunshine on the far north, but still quite cold here, two in lerwick but 1a in london. the average in the south—east at this time of year is about 7.7, so that�*s way above average. thanks very much, carol. the pandemic is devastating for thousands of companies and jobs but for some people it�*s been the chance to start something new or make that long—planned dream a reality. new figures out this morning are expected to confirm that last year was a record one for business startups. nina�*s been speaking to some of the people who took the plunge. 0n the face of it, that is quite surprising, but i suppose in difficult times, people get more constructive, they start thinking differently. yes, big ideas, ithink it is partly necessity, people lost theirjobs and wanted to make a change, but also more sitting at home, people furloughed, having to think about what they want out of life, which has triggered a lot of start—ups in 2020. it might seem a bit counterintuitive given how many people find themselves out of work or held back by tighter restrictions we had to deal with, but it has actually been a really busy few months for new companies. we already know that the first few months of 2020 so a big number of what we call start—ups, new ventures registered at companies house. 0fficialfigures out today are expected to confirm it was a record year. on the case isn�*t slowing down either. this month alone, we already know that more than 31,000 new businesses have been set up. thejump might than 31,000 new businesses have been set up. the jump might well than 31,000 new businesses have been set up. thejump might well be than 31,000 new businesses have been set up. the jump might well be to than 31,000 new businesses have been set up. thejump might well be to do with what business types, a side hustle or side venture, so that as people keeping their mainjob going but also running a little extra business on the side. that is expected to account for more than half of the new companies being set up. but the centre for entrepreneurs think lots of people have also taken the dramatic and serious events of last year as a chance to re—think and have a go at that dream businesses they�*ve always wanted to run. i�*ve been speaking to three people who did just that. this one has been very popular from social media. this one has been very popular from social media-— social media. who would start a business in _ social media. who would start a business in the _ social media. who would start a business in the middle - social media. who would start a business in the middle of - social media. who would start a business in the middle of a - business in the middle of a pandemic? britney, that�*s who. last year, she left a safe job pandemic? britney, that�*s who. last year, she left a safejob in teaching to open her dream wedding shop. my question to her, what were you thinking? i shop. my question to her, what were you thinking?— you thinking? i am that excited, because it _ you thinking? i am that excited, because it is _ you thinking? i am that excited, because it is something - you thinking? i am that excited, because it is something i - you thinking? i am that excited, | because it is something i wanted you thinking? i am that excited, i because it is something i wanted to do forever. ~ , .. because it is something i wanted to do forever. ~ , ., , because it is something i wanted to do forever-— do forever. when you first opened, can ou do forever. when you first opened, can you remember _ do forever. when you first opened, can you remember the _ do forever. when you first opened, can you remember the feeling - do forever. when you first opened, can you remember the feeling of i can you remember the feeling of making your first sale? it can you remember the feeling of making your first sale?— making your first sale? it was so excitin: , making your first sale? it was so exciting. the _ making your first sale? it was so exciting, the goal— making your first sale? it was so exciting, the goal came, - making your first sale? it was so exciting, the goal came, then i making your first sale? it was so l exciting, the goal came, then she came back to buy because somebody else was buying it for her, and we booked a table to go out for tea, it was all celebrations, so it was really exciting.— was all celebrations, so it was really exciting. and believe it or not, really exciting. and believe it or not. britney _ really exciting. and believe it or not, britney is _ really exciting. and believe it or not, britney is not _ really exciting. and believe it or not, britney is not alone. - really exciting. and believe it or not, britney is not alone. in - really exciting. and believe it or| not, britney is not alone. in fact, while lots of people were collapsing, up 2020 was a record yearfor collapsing, up 2020 was a record year for start—ups. collapsing, up 2020 was a record yearforstart—ups. —— collapsing, up 2020 was a record yearfor start—ups. —— lots of businesses were collapsing. more than three quarters of a million new companies were formed, a big leap on the before. and yes, some growth was related the pandemic, thinking medical sales, workplace ppe, cleaning services. but the centre for entrepreneurs said new demands on people brought new ideas, too. when his aviation training work was grounded, this man started grinding coffee beans instead. he used as redundancy cash to get a mobile cafe moving with his wife. they said it was a risk worth taking. brute moving with his wife. they said it was a risk worth taking.— was a risk worth taking. we need some wonderful _ was a risk worth taking. we need some wonderful characters, - was a risk worth taking. we need some wonderful characters, we l was a risk worth taking. we need - some wonderful characters, we have -ood some wonderful characters, we have good days, _ some wonderful characters, we have good days, but there are the days when _ good days, but there are the days when sales — good days, but there are the days when sales are low, we are out in the cold _ when sales are low, we are out in the cold in — when sales are low, we are out in the cold in the wet, and really working — the cold in the wet, and really working hard, and not making any sales— working hard, and not making any sales at— working hard, and not making any sales at all — working hard, and not making any sales at all. it is those days that it is very— sales at all. it is those days that it is very difficult to keep positive. but if you start a business _ positive. but if you start a business during a pandemic, you can make _ business during a pandemic, you can make it _ business during a pandemic, you can make it work, and that clearly must be able _ make it work, and that clearly must be able to— make it work, and that clearly must be able to work outside the pandemic. be able to work outside the pandemic-— be able to work outside the andemic. ., , , , , . be able to work outside the andemic. . , , , , . ., pandemic. variety is the spice of life. just ask— pandemic. variety is the spice of life. just ask dominique, - pandemic. variety is the spice of life. just ask dominique, who . life. just ask dominique, who launched a hot sauce company in june. seven months later, and against all odds, his country has gone from one kitchen to delis across the country. —— how product has gone from one kitchen. i across the country. -- how product has gone from one kitchen.- across the country. -- how product has gone from one kitchen. i kind of thin , has gone from one kitchen. i kind of thin, no has gone from one kitchen. i kind of thing. no time _ has gone from one kitchen. i kind of thing, no time like _ has gone from one kitchen. i kind of thing, no time like the _ has gone from one kitchen. i kind of thing, no time like the present. - has gone from one kitchen. i kind of thing, no time like the present. i i thing, no time like the present. i have genuinely found a new purpose. i have never felt so driven have genuinely found a new purpose. i have neverfelt so driven in my life, even though it is an unusual time and an unsettling situation, but i just carry time and an unsettling situation, but ijust carry on, and make a few little footsteps, do whatever i can to move the dial, and that is really important, that motivates me. but startin: a important, that motivates me. but starting a business is one thing. growing it is quite another, and more than half of new ventures will sadly fold within five years. but some say now is the perfect time to take on the odds. here are currently one more time. take on the odds. here are currently one more time-— one more time. sometimes i think, what have i— one more time. sometimes i think, what have i done? _ one more time. sometimes i think, what have i done? i— one more time. sometimes i think, what have i done? i do _ one more time. sometimes i think, what have i done? i do have - one more time. sometimes i think, what have i done? i do have those l what have i done? i do have those times. but then i come in here, and i�*m like, this is mine. when things go back to normal, will be all right. like, i�*ve started a waiting list for appointments, and i�*ve had over 50 people on it, so if all of those people book in, not all of them will buy, but it�*s still a good start. and best of luck to britney, who is herself getting married in december. it will not surprise you to learn she has her dress sorted. looking at the numbers, july was the pompous, so that broke all records for new businesses, 80,000 were launched in that month alone. and if you think about it, that is when the economy was reopening, quite a lot of optimism around at that time. lots of time to think, lots of government support at the moment, but the possibility is that that is masking companies who will feel when that support is withdrawn. so some optimism, but has bob�*s say, they just will not settle for long time. it is lovely to talk to someone who is so enthusiastic and positive about starting their dream job. it was so nice to talk to brittany yesterday, because she is very excited about the new venture, she left a safe job, so she was full of optimism for the future, and i needed to hear that yesterday. if you can make something work now, usually will be able to make it work... absolutely, a lot of pent—up demand for people to get out there and spend once things get back to normal. thank you, nina. let�*s take a look at today�*s papers. the dispute between the eu and astrazeneca over supplies of the coronavirus vaccine makes the lead story on many of the front pages. the telegraph says borisjohnson has refused to divert millions of uk—made doses to the eu. it says the prime minister is "confident" the firm will honour its contract for the first 100 million doses made here. the times reports that industry sources say the uk has more than enough coronavirus vaccines for this year and could eventually donate them to other countries. away from the eu, the daily mirror focuses on the prime minister�*s announcement that pupils will not return to schools in england before 8th march. the paper says teaching unions have urged caution over what it describes as "arbitrary" dates. one of the most popular stories on the bbc news website is about a condition known as "parosmia," which affects those recovering from covid—19. as their sense of smell returns, some are finding that things which should smell nice, such as food, soap, and their loved ones, smell repulsive. scientists are not sure why it happens, or how to cure it. it doesn�*t happen to everyone. people will be recovering from covid at the moment who have lost their sense of smell, they will not want things to smell bad, but it is not happening to everyone. we are also looking at some of the effects of long covered this morning —— long covid. you might think by now without the number ten briefings on all the time we have spent listening attentively to the prime minister and others, people would have had enough of looking at number 10 downing street and spending time looking at it. no, not for this household. this is karen, who lives in south wales, and this is her toilet door, she has done the thing up toilet door, she has done the thing up as if it were number ten downing street. so she has replicated everything popular, the door handle, the knocker, and the number ten and everything, and the colour is all done... she spent £120 giving it a downing street makeover. it has a lions head knocker, brass letterbox, the whole thing. every time you go there, you are reminded of number ten downing street. it is like a big event, entering the bathroom. i was going to show you a little picture of a mouse, i going to show you a little picture ofa mouse, i make going to show you a little picture of a mouse, i make sure you it later. the time now is 6.21. a full weather forecast from carol a little later in the programme. this week on breakfast, we�*ve been paying tribute to the more than 100,000 people that have been tragically lost to covid—19. but for many of those who have survived the virus, the struggle is still far from over. breakfast�*s tim muffett has been to meet some of them. 0nce once i realised what was happening to me, what i had, i became very, very frightened. to me, what i had, i became very, very frightened-— very frightened. they said to me, ou are very frightened. they said to me, you are very. _ very frightened. they said to me, you are very. very _ very frightened. they said to me, you are very, very ill— very frightened. they said to me, you are very, very ill with - you are very, very ill with covid-19 _ you are very, very ill with covid—19. | you are very, very ill with covid-19-_ you are very, very ill with covid-19. ., , ,, , �* covid-19. i told my kids i wasn't auoin covid-19. i told my kids i wasn't roirn to covid-19. i told my kids i wasn't going to make _ covid-19. i told my kids i wasn't going to make it. _ covid-19. i told my kids i wasn't going to make it. as _ covid-19. i told my kids i wasn't going to make it. as ali - covid-19. i told my kids i wasn't going to make it. as ali notes, | going to make it. as ali notes, survivinr going to make it. as ali notes, surviving covid _ going to make it. as ali notes, surviving covid is _ going to make it. as ali notes, surviving covid is one - going to make it. as ali notes, surviving covid is one thing. i going to make it. as ali notes, i surviving covid is one thing. fully recovering is quite another. i cannot stress myself, i cannot walk up cannot stress myself, i cannot walk up the stairs, i cannot cook. radii up the stairs, i cannot cook. ali s-ent up the stairs, i cannot cook. ali spent more than 200 days in hospital last year after being admitted in april. i last year after being admitted in a-ril. ., ., last year after being admitted in a-ril. . . ., , . april. i managed to ring my daughter and i said, april. i managed to ring my daughter and i said. they _ april. i managed to ring my daughter and i said, they are _ april. i managed to ring my daughter and i said, they are going _ april. i managed to ring my daughter and i said, they are going to - april. i managed to ring my daughter and i said, they are going to put - april. i managed to ring my daughter and i said, they are going to put me | and i said, they are going to put me ina coma, and i said, they are going to put me in a coma, and told everyone i love them, and hopefully i will see them on the other side. and obviously, when i woke up, it was three months later. i had lung failure, kidney failure, liverfailure. iwas later. i had lung failure, kidney failure, liverfailure. i was on a dialysis machine, i had another stroke, i had gangrene in my lungs, i had sepsis. it stroke, i had gangrene in my lungs, i had sepsis-— i had sepsis. it was like watching him in pain _ i had sepsis. it was like watching him in pain take _ i had sepsis. it was like watching him in pain take every _ i had sepsis. it was like watching him in pain take every single - him in pain take every single breath, _ him in pain take every single breath, and watching somebody go through— breath, and watching somebody go through that, not being able to breathe, — through that, not being able to breathe, almost drowning in their own fluids, — breathe, almost drowning in their own fluids, and to have to watch that, _ own fluids, and to have to watch that, and — own fluids, and to have to watch that, and know they are going through— that, and know they are going through that every second of the day, _ through that every second of the day, it— through that every second of the day, it was— through that every second of the day, it was incredibly hard. and you are not able — day, it was incredibly hard. and you are not able to _ day, it was incredibly hard. and you are not able to work _ day, it was incredibly hard. and you are not able to work at _ day, it was incredibly hard. and you are not able to work at the - day, it was incredibly hard. and you | are not able to work at the moment. how hard is that?— how hard is that? very difficult. i come out to _ how hard is that? very difficult. i come out to loads _ how hard is that? very difficult. i come out to loads of _ how hard is that? very difficult. i come out to loads of bills, - how hard is that? very difficult. i come out to loads of bills, we - how hard is that? very difficult. i | come out to loads of bills, we are all written in letters and what not, i�*m thinking about going bankrupt because i don�*t have another choice. i cannot afford to pay my bills, i�*m not working. i take life day by day, breath by breath, that is the only way to do it. i don�*t think about the future because i don�*t know what the future because i don�*t know what the future because i don�*t know what the future is going to bring. he continued to stay strong, stay strong — continued to stay strong, stay strong for— continued to stay strong, stay strong for us.— continued to stay strong, stay strong for us. this was a “ourney claire thought i strong for us. this was a “ourney claire thought she h strong for us. this was a “ourney claire thought she would_ strong for us. this was a journey claire thought she would never l strong for us. this was a journey - claire thought she would never make. we�*re going to put you in an induced coma, you could 50% chance of survival. i thought, coma, you could 50% chance of survival. ithought, ijust coma, you could 50% chance of survival. i thought, ijust got to come out of the other side. and then they got a phone call at home to say i took a turn for the worse, and they give me two hours, and are certified and improve proven that two hours, they were turning the ventilator off.— ventilator off. what was it like when you _ ventilator off. what was it like when you look _ ventilator off. what was it like when you look up _ ventilator off. what was it like when you look up from - ventilator off. what was it like when you look up from your i ventilator off. what was it like - when you look up from your coma? when i opened my eyes, i thought i was in space, i didn�*t know where i was, i was so confused. it�*s was in space, i didn't know where i was, i was so confused.— was, i was so confused. it's been very difficult- _ was, i was so confused. it's been very difficult. me _ was, i was so confused. it's been very difficult. me and _ was, i was so confused. it's been very difficult. me and my - was, i was so confused. it's been very difficult. me and my mum i was, i was so confused. it's been l very difficult. me and my mum are really— very difficult. me and my mum are really close, and when she first went _ really close, and when she first went in. — really close, and when she first went in. it _ really close, and when she first went in, it was a big shock. charlie is one of the _ went in, it was a big shock. charlie is one of the country's _ went in, it was a big shock. charlie is one of the country's leading - is one of the country�*s leading choristers. he is one of the country's leading choristers— is one of the country's leading choristers. . . ., choristers. he had learned a new riece, choristers. he had learned a new piece. and _ choristers. he had learned a new piece, and when _ choristers. he had learned a new piece, and when i _ choristers. he had learned a new piece, and when i came - choristers. he had learned a new piece, and when i came home i choristers. he had learned a new. piece, and when i came home and choristers. he had learned a new- piece, and when i came home and set in the chair, the first thing he did was play and sing to me, and it was so emotional. this was play and sing to me, and it was so emotional-— so emotional. this was the peace which charlie _ so emotional. this was the peace which charlie went _ so emotional. this was the peace which charlie went on _ so emotional. this was the peace which charlie went on to - so emotional. this was the peace which charlie went on to sing - so emotional. this was the peace which charlie went on to sing in l which charlie went on to sing in last year�*s semifinal of the bbc young chorister of the year competition. i young chorister of the year competition.— young chorister of the year com retition. ., ., . , young chorister of the year com retition. . ._ , , ., , competition. i always remember it as the first song — competition. i always remember it as the first song i _ competition. i always remember it as the first song i sang _ competition. i always remember it as the first song i sang to _ competition. i always remember it as the first song i sang to my _ competition. i always remember it as the first song i sang to my mum - the first song i sang to my mum after— the first song i sang to my mum after she — the first song i sang to my mum after she was in hospital. it is arthur jacobs _ after she was in hospital. it is arthurjacobs was _ after she was in hospital. it 3 arthurjacobs was applauded as he left hospital in wirral last april. —— 84—year—old arthurjacobs. it left hospital in wirral last april. -- 84-year-old arthurjacobs. it was very nice- — -- 84-year-old arthurjacobs. it was very nice- l — -- 84-year-old arthurjacobs. it was very nice- lam _ -- 84-year-old arthurjacobs. it was very nice. i am more _ -- 84-year-old arthurjacobs. it was very nice. i am more of— -- 84-year-old arthurjacobs. it was very nice. i am more of a _ -- 84-year-old arthurjacobs. it was very nice. i am more of a retired - very nice. i am more of a retired person. very nice. i am more of a retired rerson. , , , , . , very nice. i am more of a retired rerson. , , , , ., . person. the best present was a chance to _ person. the best present was a chance to meet _ person. the best present was a chance to meet a _ person. the best present was a chance to meet a new- person. the best present was a chance to meet a new addition | person. the best present was a i chance to meet a new addition to person. the best present was a - chance to meet a new addition to the family, named in his honour. trier? family, named in his honour. very rrrivileed family, named in his honour. very privileged to _ family, named in his honour. very privileged to meet _ family, named in his honour. very privileged to meet his _ privileged to meet his great—great—grandson, bb arthur. how great-great-grandson, bb arthur. how are ou great—great—grandson, bb arthur. firm are you feeling? great-great-grandson, bb arthur. how are you feeling? loss _ great-great-grandson, bb arthur. how are you feeling? loss of _ great-great-grandson, bb arthur. how are you feeling? loss of vision - great-great-grandson, bb arthur. how are you feeling? loss of vision in - are you feeling? loss of vision in one e e. are you feeling? loss of vision in one eye- the _ are you feeling? loss of vision in one eye. the peripheral- are you feeling? loss of vision in one eye. the peripheral vision i are you feeling? loss of vision in | one eye. the peripheralvision has one eye. the peripheral vision has decreased a bit. one eye. the peripheralvision has decreased a bit.— decreased a bit. they tell us it is due to the _ decreased a bit. they tell us it is due to the virus. _ decreased a bit. they tell us it is due to the virus. you _ decreased a bit. they tell us it is due to the virus. you have - decreased a bit. they tell us it is due to the virus. you have eight| due to the virus. you have eight grandchildren _ due to the virus. you have eight grandchildren and _ due to the virus. you have eight grandchildren and nine - grandchildren and nine great—grandchildren. how hard it been a not being able to see them? it's been a not being able to see them? it�*s very hard. we miss them so it's very hard. we miss them so much _ it's very hard. we miss them so much, honestly. but we are here. and he's still much, honestly. but we are here. situc he's still fighting, much, honestly. but we are here. fific he's still fighting, so much, honestly. but we are here. elic he's still fighting, so i'm just he�*s still fighting, so i�*m just incredibly proud. mr; he's still fighting, so i'm 'ust incredibly proudi he's still fighting, so i'm 'ust l incredibly proud.�* the incredibly proud. my hero. the im ract incredibly proud. my hero. the impact of _ incredibly proud. my hero. the impact of covid _ incredibly proud. my hero. the impact of covid for _ incredibly proud. my hero. the impact of covid for so - incredibly proud. my hero. the impact of covid for so many i incredibly proud. my hero. the i impact of covid for so many means new challenges and a whole new way of living. tim muffett, bbc news. thanks to ali, clare and arthur and of theirfamilies, theirfamilies of their families, their families are of theirfamilies, theirfamilies are obviously so grateful to have them back. but that is a long way ahead of them in terms of recovery. thank you for sharing those emotional studies with us. in a arthur... great great grandchild. that is the thing, i forgot to see the new addition to the family, that is something to savour. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. bbc london and bbc south east today are joining forces at breakfast to keep you up to date with the latest on the coronavirus in your area. concerns have been raised about the mental health of kent nhs staff working through the pandemic. since the outbreak pressure on hospital staff has been high. managers say online counselling and mental health services are being offered. advisors at kings college hospital in london says the affects of post traumatic stress could last years. south east coast ambulance service is to receive support from the military. 36 personnel from the royal logistic corps have been trained. the trust recently collaborated with the fire service in a similar agreement. fuel alternatives to oil and electricity is the focus of a new project in sussex. the village of barcombe could become the template for other areas if plans are successful. 600 households in the area are working with the company uk power networks. we wa nt we want to hundred of them to get on—board with the project. we already have 50 of those homes signed up and we will put energy managers in the home so we can record the use over the winter and we will give that data to the uk power networks and they will use that data to make a plan and plan for the village to come off oil and switch to electricity for heating. a hindu temple is opening as a vaccination centre. the temple in kingsbury is thought to be the first in the world to become a vaccination hub. the aim is to immunise more than 1300 people a day. the brent community is being served by a group of 20 gp practices. a terminally—ill toddler from east london has had her wish to see real animals. ava cottle has leukaemia. friends in romford arranged for a number of creatures to visit ava�*s home. her mother, cherry, says it made her daughter very happy. to see her smiling is it, it�*s done what we wanted. it gave her, i don�*t know, the chance to see some stuff she won�*t ever get to see again, you know? she won't ever get to see again, you know? .. . she won't ever get to see again, you know? ., . , . ., know? time for an update on the weather. a mild and damp start this morning with heavy rain overnight, still a little around this morning but clearing away eastwards and becoming dry and we will get some breaks in the cloud, one or two sunny spells on the risk of a shower and it is breezy. you will feel the wind along the south coast, but temperatures today are very mild potentially getting up to 1a celsius. it will stay very mild overnight and another band of rain will sweep through, becoming dry with clear spells through the middle of the night. staying quite breezy and some showers to follow into friday morning and the minimum temperature above zero, between seven and nine celsius. there are some showers on friday but brighter spells with sunny spells in the afternoon and some uncertainty around the weekend. we are looking at some rain, especially through the morning bumping into cold air so you might get sleet over higher ground further north you are. we are back in half an hour. goodbye. good morning. thanks forjoining us on breakfast. loads coming up. she�*s gonna need a bigger boat! double 0lympic champion helen glover tells us how she�*s training hard for a comeback in tokyo with three young children at home. fresh from his victory against sri lanka, england bowler jimmy anderson will show us how he�*s keeping fit — all 6 foot 4 of him — while quarantined in a tiny hotel room in india. sing it with me! and how singing lullabies might play a role in helping the thousands of people struggling with the after—effects of covid. many parents in england this morning are waking up to the prospect of at least another five weeks of home—schooling ahead of them. yesterday the prime minister said that schools won�*t fully reopen until at least march 8th. breakfast�*s graham satchell has been getting reaction from a few of those familiesjuggling learning in lockdown. the news that schools in the england won�*t open again until march at the earliest is a bitter blow for sam. her younger daughter in particular has really struggled. mr; her younger daughter in particular has really struggled.— her younger daughter in particular has really struggled. my daughter in her online class _ has really struggled. my daughter in her online class had _ has really struggled. my daughter in her online class had to _ has really struggled. my daughter in her online class had to review- has really struggled. my daughter in her online class had to review how l her online class had to review how she was feeling and she is six, and her top concerns were, i worry i will never see my family again and then second was, i feel sad when i hear how many people die, and for a six—year—old, for those to be the two first things they think about, thatis two first things they think about, that is material, how much of an impact it is having on her mental health. ~ ., impact it is having on her mental health. . . , ., health. we are 'ust sat at the kitchen table i health. we are just sat at the kitchen table working - health. we are just sat at the | kitchen table working because health. we are just sat at the i kitchen table working because we haven't _ kitchen table working because we haven't done a school work today. working _ haven't done a school work today. working families are really struggling. it is the emotional side of it, _ struggling. it is the emotional side of it. it's _ struggling. it is the emotional side of it, it's huge and we have the practical — of it, it's huge and we have the rractical. �* .. . of it, it's huge and we have the rractical. . ., . . . , practical. and once again, vicky is interrupted- _ practical. and once again, vicky is interrupted. vicky _ practical. and once again, vicky is interrupted. vicky is _ practical. and once again, vicky is interrupted. vicky is a _ practical. and once again, vicky is interrupted. vicky is a single i practical. and once again, vicky is| interrupted. vicky is a single mum with four school—age children iugghng with four school—age children juggling family, home and running her own business. it�*s juggling family, home and running her own business.— juggling family, home and running her own business. it's all getting a bit tense, her own business. it's all getting a bit tense. so _ her own business. it's all getting a bit tense, so it's _ her own business. it's all getting a bit tense, so it's like, _ her own business. it's all getting a bit tense, so it's like, 0k, - her own business. it's all getting a bit tense, so it's like, ok, now- her own business. it's all getting aj bit tense, so it's like, ok, now i'm thinking, _ bit tense, so it's like, ok, now i'm thinking, stop work now and i will -et thinking, stop work now and i will get back— thinking, stop work now and i will get back to — thinking, stop work now and i will get back to and then i will be working _ get back to and then i will be working at midnight to get it all done, _ working at midnight to get it all done, and it is burn—out. we are all going _ done, and it is burn—out. we are all going to _ done, and it is burn—out. we are all going to reach burn—out if we carry on like _ going to reach burn—out if we carry on like this — going to reach burn—out if we carry on like this i— going to reach burn—out if we carry on like this. i don't know what the answer— on like this. i don't know what the answer is — on like this. i don't know what the answer is. i'm not saying open schools. — answer is. i'm not saying open schools. i_ answer is. i'm not saying open schools, ijust think answer is. i'm not saying open schools, i just think we answer is. i'm not saying open schools, ijust think we need some direction, — schools, ijust think we need some direction, and you need some hope on the horizon _ direction, and you need some hope on the horizon-— the horizon. good afternoon and thanks for— the horizon. good afternoon and thanks forjoining _ the horizon. good afternoon and thanks forjoining us. _ the horizon. good afternoon and thanks forjoining us. the i the horizon. good afternoon and thanks forjoining us. the hope i the horizon. good afternoon and i thanks forjoining us. the hope had thanks for “oining us. the hope had been that thanks forjoining us. the hope had been that schools _ thanks forjoining us. the hope had been that schools in _ thanks forjoining us. the hope had been that schools in england i thanks forjoining us. the hope had been that schools in england would open again after the february half term but with cases still high and the vaccine programme nowhere near complete, this from the prime minister. we hope to begin opening schools on monday march the 8th. so what about schools in the rest of the uk? northern ireland is reviewing its plans today. wales will make an announcement on friday. scotland, early next week. but the likelihood is that schools and all four nations will remain closed for most students. i four nations will remain closed for most students.— four nations will remain closed for most students. i think everyone is findinr it most students. i think everyone is finding it stressful, _ most students. i think everyone is finding it stressful, particularly i finding it stressful, particularly those — finding it stressful, particularly those of — finding it stressful, particularly those of us who have to work and home _ those of us who have to work and home school at the same time. in the midlands, laura's _ home school at the same time. in the midlands, laura's to _ home school at the same time. in the midlands, laura's to children - home school at the same time. in the midlands, laura's to children are i midlands, laura�*s to children are doing the best with home—schooling. law agrees with the government. allowing children from different households to mix is too risky at the moment. households to mix is too risky at the moment-— households to mix is too risky at the moment. this is far from over and as much _ the moment. this is far from over and as much as _ the moment. this is far from over and as much as it _ the moment. this is far from over and as much as it is _ the moment. this is far from over| and as much as it is uncomfortable and as much as it is uncomfortable and hard. — and as much as it is uncomfortable and hard. for— and as much as it is uncomfortable and hard, for those of us with young children— and hard, for those of us with young children at— and hard, for those of us with young children at home, we have to be supporting, and i do think it is a necessary— supporting, and i do think it is a necessary evil and i have resigned myself— necessary evil and i have resigned myself to— necessary evil and i have resigned myself to it for some time to come. i myself to it for some time to come. i now— myself to it for some time to come. i now know— myself to it for some time to come. i now know an adverbial phrase. do i now know an adverbial phrase. dr; you? i now know an adverbial phrase. you? and can you tell me what it i now know an adverbial phrase.“ you? and can you tell me what it is? oh don�*t go into it. too you? and can you tell me what it is? 0h don't go into it.— 0h don't go into it. too late. martin and — 0h don't go into it. too late. martin and vicki's _ 0h don't go into it. too late. martin and vicki's two i 0h don't go into it. too late. martin and vicki's two boys, | 0h don't go into it. too late. i martin and vicki's two boys, sean martin and vicki�*s two boys, sean and aidan, are nine and seven but already learning adverbial phrases and subordinate conjunctions. their parents really want them to be in school, but recognise the seriousness of the current situation. seriousness of the current situation-— seriousness of the current situation. ., . . . situation. now we have watched the news a lot more _ situation. now we have watched the news a lot more and _ situation. now we have watched the news a lot more and seen _ situation. now we have watched the news a lot more and seen all- situation. now we have watched the news a lot more and seen all of- situation. now we have watched the news a lot more and seen all of the| news a lot more and seen all of the elements— news a lot more and seen all of the elements of things, we have got our heads _ elements of things, we have got our heads around it. it�*s elements of things, we have got our heads around it.— heads around it. it's no surprise. we had heard — heads around it. it's no surprise. we had heard rumours— heads around it. it's no surprise. we had heard rumours here i heads around it. it's no surprise. we had heard rumours here and| heads around it. it's no surprise. i we had heard rumours here and there that it _ we had heard rumours here and there that it was _ we had heard rumours here and there that it was after _ we had heard rumours here and there that it was after easter, _ we had heard rumours here and there that it was after easter, so _ we had heard rumours here and there that it was after easter, so to - we had heard rumours here and there that it was after easter, so to me i that it was after easter, so to me the 8th— that it was after easter, so to me the 8th of— that it was after easter, so to me the 8th of march, _ that it was after easter, so to me the 8th of march, 0k, _ that it was after easter, so to me the 8th of march, 0k, we - that it was after easter, so to me the 8th of march, 0k, we can- that it was after easter, so to me i the 8th of march, 0k, we can head for that _ the 8th of march, 0k, we can head for that i— the 8th of march, 0k, we can head for that. i would _ the 8th of march, 0k, we can head for that. i would like _ the 8th of march, 0k, we can head for that. i would like to— the 8th of march, 0k, we can head for that. i would like to see - the 8th of march, 0k, we can head for that. i would like to see the i for that. i would like to see the teachers — for that. i would like to see the teachers being _ for that. i would like to see the teachers being made _ for that. i would like to see the teachers being made a - for that. i would like to see the teachers being made a priorityl for that. i would like to see the i teachers being made a priority to be vaccinated — teachers being made a priority to be vaccinated i— teachers being made a priority to be vaccinated. ithink— teachers being made a priority to be vaccinated. i think that _ teachers being made a priority to be vaccinated. i think that could - vaccinated. i think that could change — vaccinated. i think that could change things _ vaccinated. i think that could change things.— vaccinated. i think that could change things. yes, definitely. there is now _ change things. yes, definitely. there is now a _ change things. yes, definitely. there is now a political - change things. yes, definitely. there is now a political row i change things. yes, definitely. i there is now a political row about whether vaccinating teachers should be a priority. however that turns out, parents and children are once again facing the long slog of many more weeks of home—schooling. there will be a lot of people watching that, hopefully having a moment of calm, thinking, yes, they are saying what i am thinking. it�*s not easy. everybody knows it is not easy and you are doing brilliantly if you are getting through it. i bet you are quite pleased that your kids are older now and you don�*t have to do home—schooling. i are older now and you don't have to do home-schooling.— are older now and you don't have to do home-schooling. i have a stepson. so i've do home-schooling. i have a stepson. so l've been — do home-schooling. i have a stepson. so i've been relearning _ do home-schooling. i have a stepson. so i've been relearning fractions i so i�*ve been relearning fractions and algebra and things i�*d completely forgot but i have been looking them up.— looking them up. well, you are learninr looking them up. well, you are learning to- _ looking them up. well, you are learning to. absolutely. - looking them up. well, you are learning to. absolutely. it i looking them up. well, you are learning to. absolutely. it is i looking them up. well, you are learning to. absolutely. it is a l learning to. absolutely. it is a re-education. _ learning to. absolutely. it is a re-education. more _ learning to. absolutely. it is a re-education. more shocks? i learning to. absolutely. it is a i re-education. more shocks? this is re—education. more shocks? this is what keeps us going. football needs to be unpredictable. it is being described as the biggest shock of the premier league season. rock bottom side sheffield united hadn�*t won at old trafford since boxing day 1973, so no one was giving them much of a chance but they took the lead against manchester united in the first half with this header, from kean bryan. manchester united would have gone back to the top of the table with a win, and they were level thanks to captain harry maguire. butjust ten minutes later, incredibly chris wilder�*s side went back in front. 0liver burke with the goal that seals a famous win. i think if you had seen this all season — i think if you had seen this all season, we've had pretty tight games where _ season, we've had pretty tight games where we've come out the other side and not _ where we've come out the other side and not got _ where we've come out the other side and not got a result and tonight, obviously. — and not got a result and tonight, obviously, another big performance, took our— obviously, another big performance, took our big — obviously, another big performance, took our big moments, and the second i was took our big moments, and the second i was a _ took our big moments, and the second i was a huge _ took our big moments, and the second i was a huge moment for us and we -ot i was a huge moment for us and we got a _ i was a huge moment for us and we got a big _ i was a huge moment for us and we got a big win. we i was a huge moment for us and we got a big win-— got a big win. we didn't have that extra creativity _ got a big win. we didn't have that extra creativity or _ got a big win. we didn't have that extra creativity or imagination, i extra creativity or imagination, what _ extra creativity or imagination, what do — extra creativity or imagination, what do you _ extra creativity or imagination, what do you call— extra creativity or imagination, what do you call it, _ extra creativity or imagination, what do you call it, the - extra creativity or imagination, what do you call it, the x i extra creativity or imagination, | what do you call it, the x factor that we — what do you call it, the x factor that we have _ what do you call it, the x factor that we have had. _ what do you call it, the x factor that we have had. it— what do you call it, the x factor that we have had. it has- what do you call it, the x factor - that we have had. it has happened, we took_ that we have had. it has happened, we took at — that we have had. it has happened, we took at it. — that we have had. it has happened, we look at it, we _ that we have had. it has happened, we look at it, we agree _ that we have had. it has happened, we look at it, we agree it's- that we have had. it has happened, we look at it, we agree it's not- we look at it, we agree it's not good _ we look at it, we agree it's not good enough _ we look at it, we agree it's not good enough and _ we look at it, we agree it's not good enough and go _ we look at it, we agree it's not good enough and go again. - there was a first game in charge, for the new chelsea boss, thomas tuchal. he only took over on tuesday, following the sacking of frank lampard. but it was a frustrating start for the german, as his side drew 0—0 with wolves. mateo kovacic among those who went close, but the blues couldn't conjure up a goal. from now on, we can go and every day will heto _ from now on, we can go and every day will heto i_ from now on, we can go and every day will help. i don't want to set will help. idon't want to set myself— will help. i don't want to set myself a _ will help. i don't want to set myself a target at which time and how much— myself a target at which time and how much time we need to adapt, because _ how much time we need to adapt, because we — how much time we need to adapt, because we have to do quick as possible — because we have to do quick as possible. if we go on at this speed, it witt— possible. if we go on at this speed, it will be _ possible. if we go on at this speed, it will be very quick. leicester came from behind to get a point against everton. youri tielemans with the goal. that game finished 1—1 with leicester staying third. burnley scored three premier league goals in a match for the first time in nearly a year as they came from behind to beat aston villa 3—2 at turf moor. chris wood scored the winnee. they're now nine points clear of the relegation places zone. rangers maintain their 23 point lead at the top of the scottish premiership thanks to a win over hibernian. steven gerrard's side dominated the game with alfredo morelos scoring the only goal in the second half at easter road. in the women's super league, leaders chelsea have set a new record of 32 games unbeaten after thrashing aston villa 4-0. sam kerr smashed in chelsea's opening goal, as emma hayes�* side overtake manchester united, to return to the top of the table. the international olympic committee says it "is fully concentrated and committed" to this summers games happening in tokyo. that is despite much ofjapan being under a state of emergency because of a third wave of covid. the games have already been postponed once because of the pandemic, but after a virtual meeting of the committee, the president stressed there were no plans to relocate the event, or cancel it. we just have to ask for patients and understanding, and we are asking for this patients from the athletes, from the national olympic committees, the japanese people, the organising committee, everybody. we have to be patient and diligent in the same way. he have to be patient and diligent in the same way-— have to be patient and diligent in the same wa . . ., , the same way. he did admit that they miaht have the same way. he did admit that they might have to — the same way. he did admit that they might have to go _ the same way. he did admit that they might have to go ahead _ the same way. he did admit that they might have to go ahead without - the same way. he did admit that they might have to go ahead without any l might have to go ahead without any funds which is an issue forjapan and the economy —— any fans. but for the olympic association, the committee, not such a problem because most of the audiences on tv and that's where a lot of their revenue comes from. but it is looking betterfor the revenue comes from. but it is looking better for the athletes now and they should at least get some action. untilwe and they should at least get some action. until we know, we don't know. scotland's first minister, nicola sturgeon, has questioned whether the prime minister's planned trip to scotland today should go ahead — as it's not an essentialjourney. borisjohnson is expected to use the trip to stress the benefits of uk—wide cooperation during the pandemic. it comes as polls suggest growing support for a second independence referendum for scotland. let's speak now to the snp's alyn smith, whojoins us from edinburgh. good morning to you. good morning. nicola sturgeon _ good morning to you. good morning. nicola sturgeon said, _ good morning to you. good morning. nicola sturgeon said, and _ good morning to you. good morning. nicola sturgeon said, and i'm - nicola sturgeon said, and i'm quoting, she is not ecstatic about the prime minister's trip to scotland. is she going to welcome him to scotland nevertheless? scotland is a welcoming country and we have all sorts of attractions that bring people from all over the world to come and see us and everybody is welcome, but midway through a pandemic when he really thought mrjohnson had other stuff to do, we think this is an ill—advised jaunt and he should not be undertaking it. he should be at his desk in downing street focusing on covid. he wants to stress the importance of the nations coming together. is importance of the nations coming touether. , ., importance of the nations coming touether. , . ., . ., together. is that not a worthwhile cause? it together. is that not a worthwhile cause? it is _ together. is that not a worthwhile cause? it is adorable _ together. is that not a worthwhile cause? it is adorable but - together. is that not a worthwhile cause? it is adorable but he - together. is that not a worthwhile j cause? it is adorable but he could do it from downing _ cause? it is adorable but he could do it from downing street. - cause? it is adorable but he could do it from downing street. from i cause? it is adorable but he could i do it from downing street. from our perspective, i am sat in edinburgh and i cannot even get to glasgow to go and see my folks and i've not seen them since christmas and we have advised against all but essential travel and it is up to him to decide whether his trip is essential or not but i have to say there is a lot of resistance to this in scotland. this is a politically motivated trip and politically motivated trip and politically motivated stunt and he will tell us what is good for us midway through a pandemic. the prime minister doesn't travel on his own, it is with a big entourage and he will travel several hundred miles to make a political speech which he could have made elsewhere and we think it is a poor idea. he elsewhere and we think it is a poor idea. , ~ , ., idea. he is the prime minister of the four nations _ idea. he is the prime minister of the four nations so _ idea. he is the prime minister of the four nations so surely - idea. he is the prime minister of the four nations so surely it - idea. he is the prime minister of the four nations so surely it is i the four nations so surely it is important that he is seen? he can be seen via the tv. this important that he is seen? he can be seen via the tv-_ seen via the tv. this is the nub of the problem- _ seen via the tv. this is the nub of the problem. he _ seen via the tv. this is the nub of the problem. he would _ seen via the tv. this is the nub of the problem. he would say - seen via the tv. this is the nub of the problem. he would say that i seen via the tv. this is the nub of. the problem. he would say that the trip is essential and i would say it really isn't and the people of scotland willjudge whether it was or wasn't. we have been advising people to stay home and a lot of people to stay home and a lot of people are really struggling not seeing friends and family, not seeing friends and family, not seeing relatives and he is coming to make a politically motivated speech for a politically motivated stunt and we think that is a poor idea midway through a pandemic and we think it is a poor idea.— think it is a poor idea. when you sa a think it is a poor idea. when you say a stunt _ think it is a poor idea. when you say a stunt and _ think it is a poor idea. when you say a stunt and politically - say a stunt and politically motivated, are you talking about recent polls looking at the percentage of people who would like a second referendum on independence in scotland? , ., . :: in scotland? yes, we now have 20 oinion in scotland? yes, we now have 20 opinion polls _ in scotland? yes, we now have 20 opinion polls in — in scotland? yes, we now have 20 opinion polls in a _ in scotland? yes, we now have 20 opinion polls in a row— in scotland? yes, we now have 20 opinion polls in a row showing - in scotland? yes, we now have 20 opinion polls in a row showing a i opinion polls in a row showing a majority for independence. that is a discussion happening within scotland but we also have the scottish parliament elections happening in may coming up, so that is why he is coming. he's not come to tell us about covid or anything else, he's come to tell us about the political benefits of the union and that is a discussion and debate but it doesn't necessitate a trip to glasgow to come and see what is going on personally. we think it is a poor idea and the people scotland will judge whether it was an essential trip or not but i'm pretty clear that it wasn't.— trip or not but i'm pretty clear that it wasn't. the latest poll in the sunday _ that it wasn't. the latest poll in the sunday times _ that it wasn't. the latest poll in the sunday times showed - that it wasn't. the latest poll in the sunday times showed that| that it wasn't. the latest poll in - the sunday times showed that 4996 the sunday times showed that 49% backed independence compared with 44 against and if you take out the that goes to 52 versus 48%. —— take out the undecided. on quarantine, can we have a conversation? nicola sturgeon said scotland could diverge from the uk—wide approach to travel restrictions if westminster doesn't go further and the government go further. what does she mean by that? what further restrictions could we see? ~ ., what further restrictions could we see? . . . , what further restrictions could we see? . . . ., . what further restrictions could we see? . ., . i, _ see? what was announced yesterday by priti patel in terms _ see? what was announced yesterday by priti patel in terms of _ see? what was announced yesterday by priti patel in terms of quarantine - priti patel in terms of quarantine and hotels in that sort of stuff is welcome. we do think there is a need for that sort of stuff and we do want to see a four nations approach and see all of us working together because it makes sense to do that for the moment, but the uk position needs to reflect the needs and wants of the four parts of the uk and if the uk position does not do that we have powers as well. we have powers to maintain different travel bans and that sort of thing and we are looking at that and that is a further discussion but the danger we have with the vaccine programme rolling out is we are simultaneously trying to heat our house but we are keeping the doors and windows open and what has been announced by the home secretary will not be fit for purpose soon and there's still a lot of details of the programme to come out so there is a lively discussion under way between edinburgh and london on what is the best way to do that because we do want to see a four nations approach and we are working towards that but we do reserve the right to use the full powers we have got to keep the people of scotland say. ghee powers we have got to keep the people of scotland say. give me an idea of a timeline. _ people of scotland say. give me an idea of a timeline. we _ people of scotland say. give me an idea of a timeline. we had - people of scotland say. give me an idea of a timeline. we had the - idea of a timeline. we had the announcement from the home secretary yesterday and conversations are happening now, so when will a decisional agreement be made and if it is not to your liking, when will that change? when will the rules in scotland change? you that change? when will the rules in scotland change?— scotland change? you ask for a timeline but _ scotland change? you ask for a timeline but the _ scotland change? you ask for a timeline but the trouble - scotland change? you ask for a timeline but the trouble is - scotland change? you ask for a timeline but the trouble is we | scotland change? you ask for a i timeline but the trouble is we are not in charge of the timeline. the details as they were were only announced in the commons yesterday and there is a lot of details to be worked out and a lot of scrutiny needs to be taken forward of the uk proposal. there is an ongoing discussion that doesn't have a timeframe and we want to see it go further in terms of the measures and the fact we have cracked down on nonessential travel and no leisure travel for international purposes which is why borisjohnson should not be making a massive trip to scotland, that limits amounts of people we are talking about the need to be accommodated in hotels. it is a huge undertaking, we know it is, but we don't think what has been announced is sufficient for what is necessary and we don't want to see the uk in the situation that the vaccine roll—out is going well but we are trying to heat our house with every door and window open because the international links we have got are bringing the vaccine and from strains of it into our shores. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. and a lovely picture. where is that? ican i can only tell you it is from our library. what the forecast is for todayis library. what the forecast is for today is quite complicated. we have some rain until snow pushing north—east and i say mostly, because some of the heavier bursts could see it go down to lower levels but at lower levels it's more likely to be sleet or rain. mild air is coming in from the atlantic and we still have cold colder embedded in the north end where tojoin cold colder embedded in the north end where to join we will see the hill snow and it's been snowing already this morning across parts of northern england and scotland and that will continue although the snow level across the north pennines will be rising through the court of the afternoon. heavy rain around chester and manchester. this is what we are looking at as we go through the course of the afternoon. again, all of the snow eventually moving out of northern england, moving north across scotland, but we will see quite a bit accumulating above 200 metres. on the other side of that it will be drier, brighter, sunshine and then expand the will come in from the west and the other thing to mention, if you are in the south—west of wales it will be cloudy and drizzly before the rain comes along. look at the temperatures. northern ireland, england and wales roughly between ten and ia degrees which is above average for this time of year but we are still in the colder air in the far north of england and also scotland where we are looking between four and 7 degrees. through the evening and overnight, the band of wintry weather moves north across scotland and the rain comes in from the south—west and pushes north and eventually the two will merge. at the same time we have showers coming in across the west through wales, south—west england, they will be drifting east and some of them will be heavy and thundery and you can see looking at the temperatures for northern ireland, england and wales, a mild night but a cold one across scotland and in rural areas temperatures around freezing orjust above or below, so we will see some frost and the risk of ice as well. tomorrow is a messy picture because as the fronts merge they will sink south and weaken, taking the cloud and remnants of patchy rain and it will brighten up behind with a bit of sunshine, but still cold in scotland with wintry showers in the northern isles and we will see brightness coming through across england and wales with the showers from earlier in the day tending to peter out with highs here of 12 degrees, so still above average for the time of year. in the forecast for the weekend, it gets complicated with fronts moving across the sand and area of low pressure and on sunday another front coming from the west —— what's making it complicated is how far north of the rain will get, so it will be largely dry in many areas with sunshine but note how the temperature is going down. as the rain starts to move northwards, how quickly it engages with the colder it will determine whether we see any snow. at the moment it's likely going to be full snow across parts of wales and into the midlands as well. i am snow across parts of wales and into the midlands as well.— the midlands as well. i am 'ust appreciating i the midlands as well. i am 'ust appreciating alli the midlands as well. i am 'ust appreciating all of i the midlands as well. i am 'ust appreciating all of the i the midlands as well. i am just appreciating all of the pictures| the midlands as well. i am just i appreciating all of the pictures on the words that carol has been saying. a lot of love for you this morning. look at that. i phoned looked more like claws. —— i thought they looked. helen glover only took up rowing in her 20s — but she went on to make history by winning two olympic gold medals with her partner heather stanning. since then she's been keeping busy with her three young children. now she's decided she wants another shot at the record books, and is hoping to get back in her boat for tokyo 2021. helen glover, it is wonderful to see you in your natural habitat by the water. , ., �* , you in your natural habitat by the water. , . �* , ., water. yes, that's dedication, takinu water. yes, that's dedication, taking you — water. yes, that's dedication, taking you to _ water. yes, that's dedication, taking you to the _ water. yes, that's dedication, taking you to the riverside i water. yes, that's dedication, i taking you to the riverside with water. yes, that's dedication, - taking you to the riverside with me. are you trying to tell us something? i am dropping a big hint with the rowing machine behind me and being by the water. i have thought long and hard about a return to rowing, with the goal being to make the tokyo olympics. with the goal being to make the tokyo olympics-— with the goal being to make the tokyo olympics. they are fearless. the are tokyo olympics. they are fearless. they are without _ tokyo olympics. they are fearless. they are without equal. _ tokyo olympics. they are fearless. they are without equal. they - tokyo olympics. they are fearless. they are without equal. they are i they are without equal. they are history— they are without equal. they are history makers. great britain's gtover— history makers. great britain's glover and _ history makers. great britain's glover and starling defend their olympic— glover and starling defend their olympic title and they have done it in such— olympic title and they have done it in such style. fire olympic title and they have done it in such style-— olympic title and they have done it in such style._ i - olympic title and they have done itj in such style._ i think in such style. are you mad? i think cuite in such style. are you mad? i think quite possibly- _ in such style. are you mad? i think quite possibly. world _ in such style. are you mad? i think quite possibly. world champions i quite possibly. world champions aaain. quite possibly. world champions a . ain. 28 quite possibly. world champions again- 28 in _ quite possibly. world champions again- 28 in a — quite possibly. world champions again. 28 in a row— quite possibly. world champions again. 28 in a row for _ quite possibly. world champions again. 28 in a row for helen - quite possibly. world champions i again. 28 in a row for helen glover and heather stanning. we again. 28 in a row for helen glover and heather stanning._ and heather stanning. we should exlain to and heather stanning. we should exoiain to people _ and heather stanning. we should explain to people at _ and heather stanning. we should explain to people at home - and heather stanning. we should explain to people at home who i and heather stanning. we should i explain to people at home who may and heather stanning. we should - explain to people at home who may be don't know that you have three very young children. tell me their ages at the moment and what life is like for you. at the moment and what life is like for ou. ., . , .,. . . . for you. logan is two and a half and kicked and — for you. logan is two and a half and kicked and bow _ for you. logan is two and a half and kicked and bow the _ for you. logan is two and a half and kicked and bow the twins _ for you. logan is two and a half and kicked and bow the twins have - for you. logan is two and a half and i kicked and bow the twins have turned one. that on its own is a huge dedication, trying to be the best mum i can be. and it's all a bit of a balancing act. taste mum i can be. and it's all a bit of a balancing act.— mum i can be. and it's all a bit of a balancing act. we have all had a lot of time — a balancing act. we have all had a lot of time over _ a balancing act. we have all had a lot of time over the _ a balancing act. we have all had a lot of time over the last _ a balancing act. we have all had a lot of time over the last year - a balancing act. we have all had a lot of time over the last year or i a balancing act. we have all had a| lot of time over the last year or so to think things through and maybe make a big life decisions and change things in our lives. what on earth made you want to get back in a boat as a mother of three very young children and put yourself through this once again?— children and put yourself through this once again? steve did come to me and say — this once again? steve did come to me and say that — this once again? steve did come to me and say that most _ this once again? steve did come to me and say that most people - this once again? steve did come to| me and say that most people crepe lockdown project was learning to crochet a mine was getting to the olympics, but i think what happened was i was getting my fitness back from having the twins during the first lockdown, so spending a lot more time on the road than i anticipated, on the rowing machine. and i started to see scores are used to get when i was on the rowing team and by summer the scores had got good and i contacted the rowing team and said i am just putting it out there that i'm thinking about whether i could return. i kind of expected things to change more and for us to go and see family and friends but we weren't, we were still at home and i was still training and it got christmas—time and i thought, i have to follow through with this and turn up for a trial. there was never a day when i woke up and thought, this is it, this will happen, ijust kind of kept going. this will happen, i 'ust kind of kept goinph this will happen, i 'ust kind of kept getnph this will happen, i 'ust kind of kept going. this will happen, i 'ust kind of ke-tttoin. ., . kept going. how much care do you have to take _ kept going. how much care do you have to take in _ kept going. how much care do you have to take in changing _ kept going. how much care do you have to take in changing the - kept going. how much care do you have to take in changing the way l kept going. how much care do you i have to take in changing the way you train and what is the difference now? �* , ,. ., ., now? i'm still discovering now because this _ now? i'm still discovering now because this path _ now? i'm still discovering now because this path is _ now? i'm still discovering now| because this path is untrodden now? i'm still discovering now i because this path is untrodden and now? i'm still discovering now - because this path is untrodden and i am going through it for the first time and having to learn the hard way a little bit. for me, one of the big things is lack of sleep. things like low iron. i am still breast—feeding the twins and it takes a lot out of you and they are things i am learning i am going that, actually, ifi things i am learning i am going that, actually, if i am feeding the twins, doing three hard sessions a day and not getting much sleep, that's not a formula for carrying on a very long but it's all around the baby schedule. when i thought about coming back the most important thing to me was that the children would always come first. it's really different. i lived as an olympian for ten years and rowing was ahead of everything, ahead of almost every relationship, every big event, every life eventful friends and family and coming back this time, ijust know that can't be the case. it never will be. i am a mum and if i ever feel like rowing is taking me away from them too much or taking away any of my mental or physical energy from them, then i would step back from them, then i would step back from rowing, but right now it is working quite well and working in a way that i know will ramp up in the next few months. i know if i make the team for tokyo there will be a few sacrifices to come, but i know i want to never sacrifice the quality family time. want to never sacrifice the quality family time-— want to never sacrifice the quality famil time. ., . ., , , family time. how much does it help ou to family time. how much does it help you to know— family time. how much does it help you to know that _ family time. how much does it help you to know that actually, - family time. how much does it help you to know that actually, the - family time. how much does it help| you to know that actually, the tokyo olympics it's not that far away? i don't think i would have thought about going back if it was a project that was looking at three or four years. it's going to come round really quickly and that also makes it way harder. i've clearly got to get loads of fitness and a really short period of time and catch up with the girls who have been training for five years who are phenomenal and be an asset to the team. i really want to be an asset to the team. it is a big ask, but thatis to the team. it is a big ask, but that is what makes it exciting, the fact it is so close. [30 that is what makes it exciting, the fact it is so close.— fact it is so close. do you have that dream? — fact it is so close. do you have that dream? the _ fact it is so close. do you have that dream? the podium, i fact it is so close. do you have that dream? the podium, the| fact it is so close. do you have - that dream? the podium, the moment? is that in your head? before london and before rio it was gold or nothing, it felt like the most important thing in the well being on top of that podium and this time round i can honestly say that my big picture is very, very different. i am a mum and we are living in a pandemic and we have all of these things that daily and constantly remind me that sport is not the most important thing. it's a real privilege to get to do and it's exciting and i love it, but it's not part of the big picture that's going on right now, so to be able to have the opportunity to get on the plane to tokyo to be the first mother to step into a boat for gb and to represent, i would feel so honoured, and for me that would be a huge part of the achievement. of course, if i get there and i race, i will be wanting to get the best result i can, but success does look different and when i look at my little girl, i think, i want to show you, physically show you, that you can go and be and do what you want to do and be and do what you want to do and that really inspires me, probably more than i was inspired for that gold medal in london and rio. ., ., ., , . . , rio. you would not bet against, would you- _ rio. you would not bet against, would you. the _ rio. you would not bet against, would you. the thing _ rio. you would not bet against, would you. the thing is - rio. you would not bet against, would you. the thing is she i rio. you would not bet against, would you. the thing is she is i rio. you would not bet against, would you. the thing is she is a | would you. the thing is she is a gladiator, she is brilliant, but i just really like her as well. i cannot help but like helen glover. we had a little glimpse last week. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are good morning. bbc london and bbc south east today are joining forces at breakfast to keep you up to date with the latest on the coronavirus in your area. concerns have been raised about the mental health of kent nhs staff working through the pandemic. since the outbreak pressure on hospital staff has been high. managers say online counselling and mental health services are being offered. advisors at kings college hospital in london says the affects of post traumatic stress could last years. south east coast ambulance service is to receive support from the military. 36 personnel from the royal logistic corps have been trained. the trust recently collaborated with the fire service in a similar agreement. fuel alternatives to oil and electricity is the focus of a new project in sussex. the village of barcombe could become the template for other areas if plans are successful. 600 households in the area are working with the company uk power networks. we want 200 of them to get on—board with the project. we already have 50 of those homes signed up and we will put energy monitors in the homes so we can record the use over the winter and we will give that data to the uk power networks and they will use that data to make a plan and plan for the village to come off oil and switch to electricity for heating. a hindu temple is opening as a vaccination centre. the temple in kingsbury is thought to be the first in the world to become a vaccination hub. the aim is to immunise more than 1,300 people a day. the brent community is being served by a group of 20 gp practices. a terminally—ill toddler from east london has had her wish to see real animals come true. ava cottle has leukaemia. friends in romford arranged for a number of creatures to visit ava's home. her mother, cherry, says it made her daughter very happy. to see her smiling, it's done what we wanted. it gave her, i don't know, the chance to see some stuff she won't ever get to see again, you know? time for an update on the weather. a mild and damp start this morning with heavy rain overnight, still a little around this morning but clearing away eastwards and becoming dry, and we will get some breaks in the cloud, one or two sunny spell, the risk of a shower and it is breezy. you will feel the wind along the south coast, but temperatures today are very mild, potentially getting up to ia celsius. it will stay very mild overnight and another band of rain will sweep through, becoming dry with clear spells through the middle of the night. staying quite breezy, and some showers to follow into friday morning, and the minimum temperature above zero, between seven and nine celsius. there are some showers on friday, but brighter spells with sunny spells in the afternoon, and some uncertainty around the weekend. we are looking at some rain, especially through the morning, bumping into cold air so you might get sleet over higher ground the further north you are. we are back in half an hour. goodbye. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today — at least another five weeks of lockdown. current restrictions in england will stay and schools will remain shut until the 8th of march at the earliest. the prime minister prepares to visit scotland amid demands for another independence referendum — but nicola sturgeon questions if the trip is essential. the eu and the uk—based vaccine maker astrazeneca have vowed to work together to resolve supply shortages. they hadn't done it, for nearly half a century, but finally sheffield united, have won at old trafford in one of the biggest shocks of the premier league season so far. good of the premier league season so far. morning. toc rain good morning. today a band of heavy rain and mostly hells no pushing northwards and eastwards. i had of it, northern scotland cold of some sunshine, and bind it for the rest of the uk, brightening up and very mild for the time of year. i will have all the details later in the programme. good morning. it's thursday the 28th of january. our top story — it'll be at least another five weeks of lockdown for england, after borisjohnson said schools will not re—open fully to all pupils until the eighth of march at the earliest. the prime minister says he'll outline at the end of february how the latest restrictions might be eased. it comes as a new study suggests infection levels are still very high. jon donnison reports. for now, home—schooling is here to stay. the news from the prime minister that schools in england will not return to normal for at least five weeks. we hope it will therefore be safel to begin the reopening of schools from monday the 8th of march, with other economic and social| restrictions been removed thereafter as and when the data permits. - there were few specifics, but later, at the downing street briefing, borisjohnson did promise to present a broader plan for getting out of lockdown. in the week beginning 22nd of february, we will - set out our plan, not just. for reopening our schools, but gradually to reopen our economy and our society, _ and to get our lives back - to as close to normal as possible. but that timetable will depend on the numbers, which are mixed. the latest daily uk figures show 1,725 new deaths were reported, the second—highest number so far since the pandemic struck. more than 37,000 people were in hospital with coronavirus over the seven days to the 25th of january. but new cases are continuing to fall, with 25,308 new infections recorded in the latest 2a—hour period. and more than 7 million people have now received the first dose of a vaccine. we have certainly seen fairly dramatic drops already in case numbers, hospitalisations, new hospitalisations are declining quite rapidly now, and i think we're going to see the death rate as well starting to decline. it has certainly plateaued and has started to dip at last. so hopefully we are past the worst. much will depend on the continued vaccine roll—out, but after more than 100,000 deaths, and with hospitals still stretched, any sense of optimism can only be cautious. jon donnison, bbc news. adam fleming joins us now. let's go through a couple of these things. quite a bit came outjohnson's press conference and announcements at the commons yesterday. front and centre of people's mines this morning, the two things about schools, march the 8th at the earliest, and tying in with that, this reality that we have effectively another five weeks of lockdown. , , ., ~ , lockdown. yes, listen to mps reactint lockdown. yes, listen to mps reacting to — lockdown. yes, listen to mps reacting to the _ lockdown. yes, listen to mps reacting to the news - lockdown. yes, listen to mpsl reacting to the news yesterday lockdown. yes, listen to mps i reacting to the news yesterday in parliament, i think they were disappointed that schools are going to be closed for so much longer, but pleased to hear that they will be the first in the queue to open, potentially on the 8th of march, as you were just hearing. and also, i think some of the prime minister's critics in his own party are quite pleased about that target date, because that is the date they were saying things should start lifting, because if you look at the progress in the vaccination roll—out, then lots of the most vulnerable people will have been vaccinated by the middle of february. it takes two or three weeks for their immunity to kick in after getting the injection, and that takes you to the 8th of march. however, they have still got to work out the criteria they will use to make the decision. i think the lifting will be fairly slow and fairly gradual, and i think a lot of the data will be open to interpretation, and will still require a lot of careful political judgment. and of course, when you are formulating a plan, you then have weeks of lobbying of people who want to be included in the plan, so i think that is what we will be talking about for the next few weeks. �* . ,., , weeks. and in about 25 minutes, we will be speaking _ weeks. and in about 25 minutes, we will be speaking to _ weeks. and in about 25 minutes, we will be speaking to michael- weeks. and in about 25 minutes, we will be speaking to michael gove i weeks. and in about 25 minutes, we will be speaking to michael gove on| will be speaking to michael gove on this programme, to try to find out a little bit more about the detail of that. and on the theme of planning, there is a plan for the prime minister, he is going to scotland today. nicola sturgeon has been pretty emphatic, i think the words she used were that she is not ecstatic that he is planning the trip, and questioning its necessity. yeah, nicola sturgeon singh, is this really within the covid rules? and downing street saying that the prime minister has to see and be seen by people, people do it safely. i expect nicola sturgeon thing a little bit of politics there as well as with her public—health hat on, too. the prime minister will be talking about all the things that scotland has benefited from as part of the uk during the coronavirus crisis, things like the furlough scheme, which comes at a massive cost, and also the roll—out of the vaccine, which is british scientists working together for the whole of the uk, and also relying on the british army for some of the logistical support. and the reason he is making those points because the disadvantages of the union are going to be the main battleground for the elections for the scottish parliament, which we think are still on track for happening in may. thanks very much, adam. astrazeneca bosses have met with eu officials to try to resolve their dispute over a shortage of the oxford vaccine. the eu is demanding that tens of millions of doses produced in the uk should be diverted to the rest of europe. our europe correspondent gavin lee is in brussels. gavin — it's been a very public row. is it on the way to being settled? it has been really unpleasant. it was effectively a crisis meeting last night, with the eu wanting to understand what is going on with astrazeneca, they met the chief executive officer, and it seems that the anger in the disbelief yesterday that we had, and part of that was the interview that the ceo gave, when he suggested was a best efforts contract, nothing stepped related on exact numbers. the eu commission said yesterday, hang on, publish that contract, make it transparent so people can see that it is very specific. once they have this meeting, which was described as constructive, but the answers in terms of the solution have not gone away. the eu wanting to make sure that in the first quarter, so by the end of march, they have what they say they paid for. what they are now saying is, i say they paid for. what they are now saying is, lam say they paid for. what they are now saying is, i am told, say they paid for. what they are now saying is, lam told, up say they paid for. what they are now saying is, i am told, up to 100 million doses of the coronavirus vaccine to be spread across european countries. at the moment, the expect around a quarter of that from astrazeneca. we are talking about 75 million doses, and where is it going to come from? well, the eu says it is to be waited on the contract, which we might soon see, the two primary factories are in the uk will stop you said it is stipulated in the contract. the other two are in belgium and the netherlands. therefore it has to come from the uk. ., therefore it has to come from the uk. . , . uk. thanks very much, gavin. in about 20 minutes _ uk. thanks very much, gavin. in about 20 minutes we _ uk. thanks very much, gavin. in about 20 minutes we will - uk. thanks very much, gavin. in about 20 minutes we will be i uk. thanks very much, gavin. in i about 20 minutes we will be talking to cabinet minister michael gove. astrazeneca bosses have met with eu officials to try to resolve their dispute over a shortage of the oxford vaccine. more detail on that, an emergency meeting took place last night as you were just hearing. a team of world health organization investigators has left quarantine in wuhan and can now carry out face—to—face work looking into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic in china. the team will however be supervised at all times in the city where the first cases were detected more than a year ago. our china correspondent stephen mcdonell is in beijing for us. stephen, what happens next? huge attention on what these investigators are able to look at. what kind of restrictions are they working under while they are in china? 3, , working under while they are in china? 1, , , ., working under while they are in china? , , . ., working under while they are in china? basically, what has happened now is that they _ china? basically, what has happened now is that they have _ china? basically, what has happened now is that they have just _ china? basically, what has happened now is that they have just come - china? basically, what has happened now is that they have just come past| now is that they have just come past us in their boss, they have left this quarantine facility behind me, and they are moving to another normal hotel. —— in their first match. they can from now and have face—to—face meetings, which in theory means they can speak to those who have been ill with the coronavirus here and will hand by the first clusters were, or speak to doctors. —— in their bus. but crucially, they will be talking to local scientists, crucially, they will be talking to localscientists, but crucially, they will be talking to local scientists, but they will not be doing their own research. they will be viewing the search that has already been done, trying to work out what needs to be done then to get to the bottom of how this pandemic started. however, we are not going to see at the end of this two week trip them coming out and going, well, we have found the origins of the coronavirus, it's just isn't going to happen. they are saying it is very completed, it will take a long time. it might even be years until we get to the bottom of this. for example, they won't even be looking at the lab leak theory, they are saying this is a conspiracy theory at the moment, so they have no reason to go down that route. instead, they are focusing more on the possibility it has come from a bat into an intermediary animal into human beings somehow, and in this way, we can work out how the coronavirus started and get ready for the next pandemic, because that could be another one like it in the near future. could be another one like it in the near future-— could be another one like it in the near future. thank you very much, ste-hen. near future. thank you very much, stephen- the _ near future. thank you very much, stephen. the time _ near future. thank you very much, stephen. the time is _ near future. thank you very much, stephen. the time is 7.12. - here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. the snow last week really lifted everyone's mood, but it was cold, and i am glad it was milder yesterday. even milder today, depending on where you are. some whole snow, but over lower levels, more likely to be sleet or rain. we still have the cold air ensconced across the north, but all this mild air coming in from the atlantic across the rest of the uk. and where the two meet, this is where we have the heavier rain in the hill snow. across northern england, southern scotland, moving into the highlands and champions during the course of the day. we will see some significant tuitions above around 200 metres. behind that, drier, brighter command milder. 13 or 1a celsius. quite drizzly in north—east england, then the next band of rain arrives in from the west. that will also be pushing northwards and eastwards. so the snow continues across scotland, moving further north, the rain falling in hot pursuit, they will eventually merge, and at the same time, showers coming in across the west of england and wales. some will be heavy and thundery. a mild night for northern ireland, england and wales, but colder in scotland, particularly in sheltered glens, where we could see some frost and also the risk of ice. tomorrow a completed start, we have emerging france sinking south and weakening. the showers across the west drifting east and mostly petering out, some sunshine, wintry showers in the northern isles, still mild in the south, and cold in the north. thank you, carol. march the 8th. boris johnson says that's the new target to start getting schools fully re—open in england. but what needs to be achieved before children are able to return to the classroom? let's speak now to labour's deputy leader, angela rayner, whojoins us from central london. first of all, can you give us your reaction to this timeline? march they had, which is important to say, it is the earliest that all schools will be reopening. we understand that some are open as we speak for a limited number of students. but that is the date we are looking at, tell us what you made of that. i is the date we are looking at, tell us what you made of that.- us what you made of that. i think it's important _ us what you made of that. i think it's important that _ us what you made of that. i think it's important that schools - us what you made of that. i think| it's important that schools reopen as soon as possible, but it cannot just be about a hope for schools to the open, there has to be a plan for that. we have cold on the government to make schools safe to be reopened by making sure that temperatures are vaccinated as quickly as possible, and a plan for mass testing in schools as promised. and also nightingale school classrooms so there are more ventilation and space for children, so we can facilitate all children going back into the classroom safely. d0 all children going back into the classroom safely.— all children going back into the classroom safely. do you think the date of march _ classroom safely. do you think the date of march the _ classroom safely. do you think the date of march the 8th _ classroom safely. do you think the date of march the 8th is _ date of march the 8th is appropriate? do you think that is the date to reopen the bulk of schools to all students? == the date to reopen the bulk of schools to all students? -- teachers are vaccinated. _ schools to all students? -- teachers are vaccinated. the _ schools to all students? -- teachers are vaccinated. the reason - schools to all students? -- teachers are vaccinated. the reason we - schools to all students? -- teachers are vaccinated. the reason we have | are vaccinated. the reason we have got here is that the government made mistakes over christmas, the important thing is that the government put in place to make that happen. we have made some suggestions on how we believe that can happen, the teaching unions have, and ifigured is important to note, because the prime minister keeps saying he does not want schools to reopen, she said that people do not want schools to reopen, but that is not true. the government has failed to put the plan in place to make it happen. we still have lots of people is now who still have lots of people is now who still do not have access to online learning, and this is an academic year since the start of the pandemic, it is an absolute failure on the government's part. flan pandemic, it is an absolute failure on the government's part. can i 'ust ask specific — on the government's part. can i 'ust ask specific question i on the government's part. can i 'ust ask specific question again? i on the government's part. can i 'ust ask specific question again? arei on the government's part. can ijustj ask specific question again? are you happy with the timeline that has been announced, notwithstanding your issues around safety, do you think that marks the eighth is an appropriate date for schools to fully reopen, do you think that is appropriate? i fully reopen, do you think that is appropriate?— appropriate? i think it is appropriate. _ appropriate? i think it is appropriate, i _ appropriate? i think it is appropriate, ithink- appropriate? i think it is appropriate, i think it i appropriate? i think it is i appropriate, i think it should appropriate? i think it is - appropriate, i think it should have been earlier, i think the reasons is not earlier is because the government has outlined to —— the government has outlined to —— the government has outlined to —— the government has failed to take the appropriate action. we have got half time coming up, the government really needs a plan, notjust hope, but the government needs to step up now, they have failed for the last couple of months in schools, they have not been able to put in place a plan, it has been incompetence continually notjust on the online learning, but i'm getting schools back reopen fully. and the government really needs to start stepping up, because they are feeling a whole generation of young people. the feeling a whole generation of young peo ple, ., , ., feeling a whole generation of young tteole. . . , feeling a whole generation of young tteole. . , , people. the labour party is asking that the government _ people. the labour party is asking that the government should - people. the labour party is asking that the government should use i people. the labour party is asking i that the government should use the half term break to vaccinate teachers, and immediately, other people are saying, who is it from the established list of people who should be vaccinated who you think should be vaccinated who you think should go further down the list? because of teachers go up the list of those who are prioritised, someone else goes down. —— if teachers go up the list. so how do you equate that?— you equate that? importantly first of all to say _ you equate that? importantly first of all to say that _ you equate that? importantly first of all to say that the _ you equate that? importantly first of all to say that the tremendousl of all to say that the tremendous success of the vaccine programme so far, we have managed to hopefully be on track to meet the deadline of the first four categories. and what you're saying is in that group of five to nine, all people, including those in that group and teachers, should be put into that category. so the government cannot ramp up the vaccination programme. we believe a 4 vaccination programme. we believe a a million is not an unrealistic target. we are already exceeding the 2 million target that was first set. so i think it is really important, because we know that when teachers have to go in self—isolate, when classrooms are... many parents watching this programme will have had texts saying that their classroom or their bubbles having to self—isolate. if we can prevent that from happening more, children will be back in the classroom and learning, so it is important we do that and we think we should prioritise that group to keep our schools open. flan prioritise that group to keep our schools open-— prioritise that group to keep our schools open. can i be absolutely clear? it's — schools open. can i be absolutely clear? it's what _ schools open. can i be absolutely clear? it's what you're _ schools open. can i be absolutely| clear? it's what you're suggesting that the established nine categories should be changed to include teachers? is that what you are saying? teachers? is that what you are sa int? , ., teachers? is that what you are sa in. ? , ., ., teachers? is that what you are saint? , ., ., ., saying? the first one to four categories — saying? the first one to four categories will _ saying? the first one to four categories will hopefully i saying? the first one to four categories will hopefully be | categories will hopefully be achieved after the 15th of february. we believe that that category is on track to achieve that, that's really good, and we pay tribute to everyone who has helped out with the vaccination programme. the next five to nine categories, we believe by ramping up the vaccination programme, we can include teachers and otherfront line programme, we can include teachers and other front line workers within that. but teachers should be a priority in that group, because it is really important that our schools reopen and we stop this stop start of schools, because it is really damaging for young people. we believe we can do that without pushing back that a group within the five to nine, that we are able to put that national effort in, we can do that as well and get our teachers vaccinated. bre do that as well and get our teachers vaccinated. �* , ., , , do that as well and get our teachers vaccinated-— vaccinated. are you suggesting that there is slack _ vaccinated. are you suggesting that there is slack in _ vaccinated. are you suggesting that there is slack in the _ vaccinated. are you suggesting that there is slack in the system, - vaccinated. are you suggesting that there is slack in the system, and i there is slack in the system, and somehow, i am there is slack in the system, and somehow, lam not there is slack in the system, and somehow, i am not sure how many teachers you are talking about, but many thousands of teachers, can somehow just many thousands of teachers, can somehowjust be put into the system and nobody be pushed backwards? are you saying there is slack in the system? you saying there is slack in the s stem? �* , . . ., system? i've visited a vaccination centre, system? i've visited a vaccination centre. they _ system? i've visited a vaccination centre, they were _ system? i've visited a vaccination centre, they were tremendously. centre, they were tremendously working brilliantly, they were able to get through all the vaccines that they had, desperately waiting for more. i am a mp for the north west, i have been told some of our vaccines will be taken away from us because we have got to our target of the groups one to four. so actually, primary care services are ready and could increase the capacity of the vaccine is delivered to them. so the government was able to get the vaccine out, then i absolutely believe that, with a national effort on this, we can include teachers within that five to nine group. and it is1 million within that five to nine group. and it is 1 million teachers and support staff that could be vaccinated over that half term period, which i think would be advantageous, notjust in terms of the capacity in our schools to prevent this stop start, but actually we can start to include with the gc vi looking at the other key workers like police, transport, etc that we can get our economy and a much better place going forward. ——jcvi. so i think a much better place going forward. --jcvi. so i think it a much better place going forward. ——jcvi. so i think it is an achievement we could do, it is advantageous to us, that is testament to our front line staff are delivering this vaccine. they are delivering this vaccine. they are waiting and they are ready, and they have got the capacity to deliver more vaccines, it is just that we do not have them to roll out... , , ., , that we do not have them to roll out... , .,, . . , that we do not have them to roll out... , .,, . . out... just to be clear, it is an established _ out... just to be clear, it is an established issue _ out... just to be clear, it is an established issue that - out... just to be clear, it is an established issue that there i out... just to be clear, it is anj established issue that there is out... just to be clear, it is an i established issue that there is a problem with supply. that is an established issue. ithought problem with supply. that is an established issue. i thought that was accepted that there is a problem with supply, we understand that if they had more, they could vaccinate more. but that is established, isn't it? that is just a supply issue. the government is an witty degree responsible for how much is supplied to them. —— only to a degree. responsible for how much is supplied to them. -- only to a degree.- to them. -- only to a degree. yeah, the vaccine — to them. -- only to a degree. yeah, the vaccine could _ to them. -- only to a degree. yeah, the vaccine could be _ to them. -- only to a degree. yeah, the vaccine could be delivered - to them. -- only to a degree. yeah, | the vaccine could be delivered more, they could give out more vaccine. they have already exceeded the first target for groups one to four, we are around 2 million a week vaccines are around 2 million a week vaccines a week, some have exceeded that. and some groups outside of that one to four have been given the vaccine. so there is vaccine available, it is just that the system isn't getting it down to the front line where it is required at times. so i actually think that we could deliver it to be teachers within that five to nine group, if we are able to ramp that “p group, if we are able to ramp that up toa group, if we are able to ramp that up to a million vaccines a week, and i don't think that is an unreasonable target. i think it would be really advantageous to do that, because our schools reopening is crucial as part of our economy for working parents, but more importantly, it's really crucialfor those young people that need that learning. those young people that need that learnint. �* ., those young people that need that learnint. �* . ._ those young people that need that learnint. �* ., ., ~ those young people that need that learnint. �* ., . ~' ,, learning. angela rayner, thank you ve much learning. angela rayner, thank you very much for— learning. angela rayner, thank you very much for your _ learning. angela rayner, thank you very much for your time _ learning. angela rayner, thank you very much for your time this - very much for your time this morning. angela rayner as the labour deputy leader. it is 7.22. race equality campaigners are calling on the government to do more to encourage people from ethnic minority backgrounds to have a covid vaccination. it comes as preliminary figures suggest that older people from these communities are less likely to have received a jab. here's our community affairs correspondent adina campbell. carmen reid was a 79 when she died in november last year after becoming infected with coronavirus while in hospital in birmingham. her niece says the grief of losing a close family member was the main reason why she decided to have the vaccine last week. she why she decided to have the vaccine last week. ,, ., ,., ,., , why she decided to have the vaccine last week. ,, ., , . last week. she was somebody that i stoke to last week. she was somebody that i spoke to on — last week. she was somebody that i spoke to on the _ last week. she was somebody that i spoke to on the phone _ last week. she was somebody that i spoke to on the phone nearly - last week. she was somebody that i spoke to on the phone nearly every| spoke to on the phone nearly every two weeks. and with a week or so, she wasjust taken. two weeks. and with a week or so, she was just taken. so that it did affect me, probably effectively family. you realise how fragile life is. ., , ., family. you realise how fragile life is. people from black, asian, and other ethnic _ is. people from black, asian, and other ethnic minority _ is. people from black, asian, and other ethnic minority groups - is. people from black, asian, and other ethnic minority groups are l is. people from black, asian, and i other ethnic minority groups are up to a0 times likely to die from coronavirus than white people. despite the risks, research suggests confidence in the vaccine is lower within these communities. there are a number of reasons why some people from black and asian backgrounds seem to be more hesitant about taking the vaccine. but one thing we hear time and taking the vaccine. but one thing we heartime and time taking the vaccine. but one thing we hear time and time again is about a lack of trust. campaigners say the government must take more action by looking closely at ethnicity data to understand the vaccine take—up among these groups. this understand the vaccine take-up among these groups-— these groups. this concept of hesitancy. — these groups. this concept of hesitancy. we _ these groups. this concept of hesitancy, we have _ these groups. this concept of hesitancy, we have all- these groups. this concept of| hesitancy, we have alljumped these groups. this concept of- hesitancy, we have alljumped onto hesitancy, we have alljumped onto it because — hesitancy, we have alljumped onto it because of a couple of surveys, that is _ it because of a couple of surveys, that is important that we do address them, _ that is important that we do address them, but _ that is important that we do address them, but i — that is important that we do address them, but i fear that we may be running — them, but i fear that we may be running ahead of ourselves and coming — running ahead of ourselves and coming to— running ahead of ourselves and coming to conclusions that aren't actually— coming to conclusions that aren't actually supported by what is really going _ actually supported by what is really going on _ actually supported by what is really going on. the actually supported by what is really ttoin on. actually supported by what is really hoinon_ actually supported by what is really ttoinon. , going on. the government says it is workint going on. the government says it is working closely _ going on. the government says it is working closely with _ going on. the government says it is working closely with black, - going on. the government says it is working closely with black, asian i working closely with black, asian and minority ethnic communities, who have questions about covid—19 vaccines, which includes working with faith and community leaders to give them advice and information about the benefits of vaccination. we understand the fears, the anxieties, and the confusion... black mps from all parties have now come together in this video hoping to spread the vaccination message on social media. dr nighat arif is one of our regular breakfast gps, and she's been working to encourage people from minority ethnic communities to have the vaccine. we can speak to her now. good morning. this is really important to you, we will show your part that you have been playing in a moment, but why have you felt it is important to get involved in this? it is important because we are in the middle of a pandemic. my community has been most adversely affected by the number of deaths. i have seen that on the ground as a gp as well, i have counselled and supported families who are grieving, and this is really serious. because one of the road maps out of this pandemic is for us to unite together. and this is also highlighted issues that have always been there. ethnic minority communities have always been clumped together, even the term bame, i detest that, it is not a collective them and us, we'll have our own nuances and our own ways of at things and our own health issues. we don't have to look far to look at some of the health inequalities that haven't been dealt with before. {lit haven't been dealt with before. of course, one of the things as well, course, one of the things as well, language, it is a very simple thing, but different language. you have been using your language skills to get the message out, we can take a look. that is one of the clips you posted online. when it comes to mistrust. and as you say, there are a number of different ethnic communities, who have particular different things that they are concerned about, but one of the essential problems of mistrust of authority is that as soon as you try to start it out messages about mistrust and trying to do with it, that in itself, people can be mistrustful even of those messages. it is quite a hard nut to crack, isn't it? what is the best way to go about it? it’s nut to crack, isn't it? what is the best way to go about it?— best way to go about it? it's not eas . best way to go about it? it's not easy- even _ best way to go about it? it's not easy. even that _ best way to go about it? it's not easy. even that video _ best way to go about it? it's not easy. even that video i - best way to go about it? it's not easy. even that video i put - best way to go about it? it's not easy. even that video i put up, | best way to go about it? it's not easy. even that video i put up, i have been told quite a lot, people from my own community saying i am a sell—out or individual sending me messages saying, you have had the vaccine and now you will be infertile. that is horrible, but the bigger picture cannot be ignored, that we have to work together. you raise a deluded point, charlie, how do we travel mistrust? —— is really good point, how do we tackle mistrust? we need to ensure that expectations are met, so being able to deal with that, and when i get any sort of treatment as a doctor, there are three big questions i'm asked. is this necessary? is this going to be effective? is this safe? those of the three things need to be tackled with this vaccine, because that's in hesitancy is not new. measles is one example, we had a massive hesitancy, the vater that is something we are still dealing with. we need to build those trust relationships. i rememberthe we need to build those trust relationships. i remember the first time i saw naga on tv the first time, i was amazed to see someone who look like me, and what he needs to do is have health advocates within our community, someone who is able to bring forward the data, not misrepresented data, not something skewed, because when you are from an ethnic minority community, and you have that lived experience of dealing with those inequalities, having your concern is not dealt with, you revert to your own, so you look at social media platforms from abroad which is unrelated, and we don't know some of the information coming through, because it is done by somebody you can relate to, and talk to your language in a way that you can understand, so we need to be able to sort of look at that and almost teach our communities how to look at social media, at whatever they see, that is not all the truth either. and as a pakistani woman who wears a hijab, my experience is to be very different from a jewish woman and her experiences, so understanding those nuances is important. it comes back to personal responsibility. one of the big things that has come out in covid—19 as we are all in it together, but realise some people's boats are bigger than others. so what we need to be saying is that now was not the time to divide even further, because our whole existence, the way out of this pandemic, as i said earlier, is to unite together and come together, so having these positive conversations, having discussions like this, people who represent us, is one of the steps we are taking. we will talk again on this issue, i know we will, and other issues as well. good to talk to you this morning, dr nighat arif. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. bbc london and bbc south east today are joining forces at breakfast to keep you up to date with the latest on the coronavirus in your area. concerns have been raised about the mental health of kent nhs staff working through the pandemic. since the outbreak, pressure on hospital staff has been high. managers say online counselling and mental health services are being offered. advisors at kings college hospital in london says the affects of post traumatic stress could last for years. south east coast ambulance service is to receive support from the military. 36 personnel from the royal logistic corps have been trained. the trust recently collaborated with the fire service in a similar arrangement. a pollution map of london has been has been published. researchers examined noise and green space to rank every street. camden came top. bexley was one of the most unhealthy boroughs to live in. fuel alternatives to oil and electricity is the focus of a new project in sussex. the village of barcombe could become the template for other areas if plans are successful. 600 households are working with the company uk power networks. we want 200 of them to get on—board with the project. we already have 50 of those homes signed up and we will put energy monitors in the home so we can record the use over the winter and we will give that data to the uk power networks and they will use that data to make a plan and plan for the village to come off oil and switch to electricity for heating. a terminally—ill toddler from east london has had her dream to see real animals come true. ava cottle has leukaemia. friends in romford arranged for a number of creatures to visit ava's home. her mother, cherry, says the visit made her daughter very happy. to see her smiling is, it's done what we wanted. it gave her, i don't know, the chance to see some stuff she won't ever get to see again, you know? a mild and damp start this morning with heavy rain overnight, still a little around this morning but clearing away eastwards and becoming dry, and we will get some breaks in the cloud, one or two sunny spells, the risk of a shower and it is breezy. you will feel the wind along the south coast, but temperatures today are very mild, potentially getting up to 1a celsius. it will stay very mild overnight and another band of rain will sweep through, becoming dry with clear spells through the middle of the night. staying quite breezy, and some showers to follow into friday morning, and the minimum temperature above zero, between seven and nine celsius. there are some showers on friday, but brighter spells with sunny spells in the afternoon, and some uncertainty around the weekend. we are looking at some rain, especially through the morning, bumping into cold air so you might get sleet over higher ground the further north you are. we will have another update for you at half past eight. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. mike will have the sport and carol will have the weather throughout this hour. the earliest schools in england willfully re—open is march 8th, but the prime minister says this will only happen if it is safe to do so. let's speak to cabinet office minister, michael gove, who joins us from west london. good morning. good morning. can we be clear. the 8th of march, that is the earliest date schools could fully reopen. is that also the earliest date that some restrictions, any restrictions we are currently living under, might be lifted? taste are currently living under, might be lifted? . . ., ., lifted? we are going to review around the — lifted? we are going to review around the 15th _ lifted? we are going to review around the 15th of— lifted? we are going to review around the 15th of february i lifted? we are going to review| around the 15th of february the progress we have made in the vaccine programme and when it comes to schools, they will need a wee bit of time if we have made the right progress in order to prepare which is why we set the dates of march the 8th. ithink it is why we set the dates of march the 8th. i think it would be premature to imagine that restrictions are going to be lifted before then but of course we keep things constantly under review. 50 of course we keep things constantly under review— under review. so there is a possibility _ under review. so there is a possibility when _ under review. so there is a possibility when you i under review. so there is a l possibility when you review, under review. so there is a - possibility when you review, because you are reviewing the 22nd of february, that some restrictions might be eased before school is fully reopen on march the 8th, if that happens? i fully reopen on march the 8th, if that happens?— fully reopen on march the 8th, if that happens? fully reopen on march the 8th, if that ha- ens? ., �* . ., that happens? i wouldn't want to get an bod 's that happens? i wouldn't want to get anybody's hopes _ that happens? i wouldn't want to get anybody's hopes op _ that happens? i wouldn't want to get anybody's hopes up prematurely. it i anybody's hopes up prematurely. it is vitally important we do everything we can to fight this disease, and people working on the nhs front line reinforced to me that the most important thing we should do is obey the rules and to do our part in making sure that the virus does not spread, sol part in making sure that the virus does not spread, so i think it would be premature to anticipate that but as you rightly say, we will review things then. our top priority is education and making sure that children can be back in school for the reasons we all know, and it will be at that review point we can make thatjudgment. if there are any other changes to the rules, we can look at them in the round, but as i say, i wouldn't anticipate things changing much before then and i also think that people will understand why it is we are putting schools at the top of the list for any relaxation in the existing restrictions.— relaxation in the existing restrictions. . restrictions. what is your message to tarents restrictions. what is your message to parents this _ restrictions. what is your message to parents this morning _ restrictions. what is your message to parents this morning who i restrictions. what is your message to parents this morning who have. to parents this morning who have woken up knowing that there is another five weeks of home—schooling? my another five weeks of home-schoolinu ? ~ , , h, another five weeks of home-schoolinu ? ~ , , a, another five weeks of home-schoolinu ? g , a, , home-schooling? my message would be that i have an — home-schooling? my message would be that i have an enormous _ home-schooling? my message would be that i have an enormous amount - home-schooling? my message would be that i have an enormous amount of - that i have an enormous amount of sympathy with the position you find yourself in. i am myself a parent of two children who are facing exams this year, gcses and a—levels and i'm very grateful to the teachers in their schools, i'm very grateful to the teachers in theirschools, london i'm very grateful to the teachers in their schools, london comprehensive, who have been going above and beyond in providing them with support but i recognise that for many parents this is and has been a very difficult challenge, and again, we want to make sure that schools return as quickly as we can and we also want to make sure that we can support teachers by providing online remote learning at the moment. fin teachers by providing online remote learning at the moment.— learning at the moment. on the oane learning at the moment. on the online learning, _ learning at the moment. on the online learning, ofcom - learning at the moment. on the i online learning, ofcom estimates that around 9% of children in the uk, up toi.8 that around 9% of children in the uk, up to 1.8 million, don't have access to a laptop, pc or tablet at this moment in time and it is nearly a year on. why haven't they got this access? we a year on. why haven't they got this access? ~ ., . ., , , access? we are increasing the number of la to -s access? we are increasing the number of lamps being _ access? we are increasing the number of laptops being distributed _ access? we are increasing the number of laptops being distributed and - of laptops being distributed and other remote devices and it's also the case that the costs of data access are being borne by the government as well. there is more that we need to do but ministers are focused on making sure that we can give every student wherever they are the opportunity to connect with and benefit from them. figs the opportunity to connect with and benefit from them. $5 a the opportunity to connect with and benefit from them.— benefit from them. as a parent, at the moment. _ benefit from them. as a parent, at the moment, you _ benefit from them. as a parent, at the moment, you know, _ benefit from them. as a parent, at the moment, you know, with - benefit from them. as a parent, at the moment, you know, with 1.8 i the moment, you know, with 1.8 million children being without this access, that's not good enough, is it? that's heartbreaking. we access, that's not good enough, is it? that's heartbreaking.— access, that's not good enough, is it? that's heartbreaking. we want to do better. it? that's heartbreaking. we want to do better- you _ it? that's heartbreaking. we want to do better. you are _ it? that's heartbreaking. we want to do better. you are right, _ it? that's heartbreaking. we want to do better. you are right, it— it? that's heartbreaking. we want to do better. you are right, it is- do better. you are right, it is heartbreaking and it is important that we do everything we can to make sure that children can be back in the classroom as early as possible and also that in the interim we try to make sure every child has access to make sure every child has access to the device that will unlock remote learning for them and we are committed to doing that. when remote learning for them and we are committed to doing that.— committed to doing that. when you are lookin: committed to doing that. when you are looking at _ committed to doing that. when you are looking at the _ committed to doing that. when you are looking at the reopening - committed to doing that. when you are looking at the reopening of - are looking at the reopening of schools, the full reopening of schools, the full reopening of schools, will that be done in a staged manner? we schools, will that be done in a staged manner?— schools, will that be done in a staged manner? we will be saying more about _ staged manner? we will be saying more about exactly _ staged manner? we will be saying more about exactly how _ staged manner? we will be saying more about exactly how we - staged manner? we will be saying i more about exactly how we propose staged manner? we will be saying - more about exactly how we propose to reopen schools. at the moment, the department is in daily contact with heads, teachers and others on the front line in order to make sure we can work with them for a safe return and make sure that testing facilities and other ways of ensuring safe opening are in place, and we will be saying more a little bit later about how we will support school is returning. the bit later about how we will support school is returning.— school is returning. the prime minister again _ school is returning. the prime minister again yesterday - school is returning. the prime minister again yesterday said | school is returning. the prime - minister again yesterday said that schools are safe and there was clarity offered in the sense that schools, the environment, the buildings, the structure, the infrastructure being put in place that teachers have worked with and local authorities have put in place, they are safe, but nevertheless they are vectors for transmission, or children are vectors for transmission. with that in mind, hence them being not fully open, keir starmer, leader of the labour party, has called for teachers to be vaccinated over the february half term. is that something that can be put in place? there are currently what, half a million teachers, roughly? could they be vaccinated in the half term to give them the first level of protection as they go back into an environment where there are vectors of transmission? 1 into an environment where there are vectors of transmission?— vectors of transmission? i think ou're vectors of transmission? i think you're absolutely _ vectors of transmission? i think you're absolutely to _ vectors of transmission? i think you're absolutely to stress, - vectors of transmission? i think you're absolutely to stress, as. you're absolutely to stress, as professorjonathan van tam did yesterday, that schools are in themselves safe and he also explained the way in which a virus can pass from child to child and then back into the community and thatis then back into the community and that is one of the things that the closure of schools is intended to prevent. with respect to vaccination, we want to make sure that the most vulnerable are vaccinated first and we need to concentrate on making sure that that programme is successful and again, the scientific advice is clear that it is the oldest and those with specific underlying conditions who need to be the first in the queue in order to protect them and also relieve pressure on the nhs. of course, we will raise review our progress in vaccination but at the moment the concentration is on making sure that it is those people. that has been made clear, and also to follow the advice of the joint committee for vaccinations, but the deadline or the self—imposed target date is the 14th of february, so that's before the half term period, so is it being considered that if that target is met, which we have been told we are online to meet with the vaccination roll—out, then there is time, isn't there, for the half term, before schools fully reopen for half a million teachers to be vaccinated in the half term. now is the time to look at it, so is it something you are considering realistic proposal? the something you are considering realistic proposal?— something you are considering realistic proposal? the first thing to sa is realistic proposal? the first thing to say is we _ realistic proposal? the first thing to say is we will— realistic proposal? the first thing to say is we will make _ realistic proposal? the first thing to say is we will make sure - realistic proposal? the first thing to say is we will make sure that l realistic proposal? the first thing i to say is we will make sure that we take advice from the scientist, those who know best how to protect us as who should be prioritised. it's already the case that a number of those who have already been vaccinated will be teachers and other front line workers, if they are in those groups that are targeted by scientific expertise. so if they said yes, would you be prepared to do it? {131 if they said yes, would you be prepared to do it?— if they said yes, would you be - prepared to do it?_ good. prepared to do it? of course. good. i'm sure many _ prepared to do it? of course. good. i'm sure many teachers _ prepared to do it? of course. good. i'm sure many teachers will - prepared to do it? of course. good. i'm sure many teachers will be - i'm sure many teachers will be relieved. we are waiting on the scientist to do that. let's talk about scotland and the prime minister making a visit there today. the snp has said that this is an ill—advised jaunt and he shouldn't be undertaking it and he should be at his desk in downing street focusing on covid and it is a politically motivated stunt, and by politically motivated stunt, and by politically motivated, the snp referred to the increase in recent polls of favour for an independence referendum in scotland. the polls of favour for an independence referendum in scotland.— referendum in scotland. the prime minister is going _ referendum in scotland. the prime minister is going to _ referendum in scotland. the prime minister is going to visit _ referendum in scotland. the prime minister is going to visit those - referendum in scotland. the prime minister is going to visit those on i minister is going to visit those on the front line who are responsible for the roll—out of the vaccine. we've just been discussing the importance of making sure that as many people as possible are vaccinated, and that's absolutely at the centre of our effort to deal with this pandemic and it is the british army delivering the oxford astrazeneca vaccine who are doing so much to make a difference. there are 18 new vaccination centres opening in scotland as a result of the british army efforts and i think it's only right that the prime minister goes to the front line, learns from those responsible for the vaccine roll—out and also makes sure that we do even better. that is part of the job of any leader, to thank those who are making a difference in keeping us safe, but also to hear direct and unvarnished what we can do to make sure that the delivery is better.— delivery is better. could he not do that the way _ delivery is better. could he not do that the way you _ delivery is better. could he not do that the way you are _ delivery is better. could he not do that the way you are doing - delivery is better. could he not do that the way you are doing an - that the way you are doing an interview on national television with me? could he not conduct that via assume? the with me? could he not conduct that via assume?— with me? could he not conduct that via assume? the prime minister has been meeting _ via assume? the prime minister has been meeting those _ via assume? the prime minister has been meeting those on _ via assume? the prime minister has been meeting those on the - via assume? the prime minister has been meeting those on the front - via assume? the prime minister has| been meeting those on the front line across the uk and he visited the factories in wrexham and elsewhere. let's expand the question. can't he make these visits all online? there is guidance for all of us to not travel unless it is absolutely essential. travel unless it is absolutely essential-— travel unless it is absolutely essential. , , essential. yes, but the prime minister is — essential. yes, but the prime minister is learning _ essential. yes, but the prime minister is learning from - essential. yes, but the prime l minister is learning from those directly on the front line, looking for example, at the mechanics of delivery and it is the case that one would expect that the leader of any institution would be there making sure that the work we are doing together in order to get the jabs into the arms is proceeding appropriately. and it is the case that when the prime minister visits a factory in wrexham or a laboratory... t a factory in wrexham or a laboratory. . ._ a factory in wrexham or a laboratory... i apologise for interrupting. _ laboratory... i apologise for interrupting. the _ laboratory... i apologise for interrupting. the prime - laboratory... i apologise for - interrupting. the prime minister is not going to have influence over how jabs go into an arm and the mechanics of it, it's already in place. he is going there to show his face. can he not do that remotely? no, the prime ministers going to say thank you to those responsible to make sure we are improving the vaccine programme but he is also learning. one of the things all politicians and ministers do is learn from those on the front line. politicians are sometimes understandably accused of operating from ivory towers and issuing decrees without an appreciation of what is happening on the ground. find what is happening on the ground. and when a pandemic isn't under way. it's because of the pandemic we need to make sure that the vaccine roll—out is operating effectively. i entirely understandably and legitimately, people have been asking questions throughout the roll—out about how it is operating and the prime minister by being on the front line, like the secretary of state for health or any other minister, can make sure that they have that fine—grained, detailed understanding of what we are doing. as i say, the prime minister has been making other visits, whether it was oxford, wrexham or anywhere else, and no one thinks that that is illegitimate. quite the opposite. one more question if you will allow me. bearing in mind that two of the reasons we have seen a rise in support for the independence referendum in scotland is brexit and the pandemic. therefore do you think, when it comes to scotland, that the prime minister is an asset or a problem? that the prime minister is an asset ora problem? he that the prime minister is an asset or a problem?— or a problem? he is a huge asset. the vaccine _ or a problem? he is a huge asset. the vaccine programme _ or a problem? he is a huge asset. the vaccine programme we - or a problem? he is a huge asset. the vaccine programme we are . or a problem? he is a huge asset. - the vaccine programme we are rolling out at the moment is only possible because of the prime minister's leadership. we are the country leading the world both in the development of vaccines and in the roll—out of vaccines, and that's as i direct result of dies —— decisions that the prime minister took. the oxford astrazeneca vaccine in the british army which are responsible for that, british army which are responsible forthat, it british army which are responsible for that, it is the prime minister who made those decisions and that prime minister working with rishi sunak who made decisions about the economic support that is providing forfirms and companies in scotland, with the chance to make sure people are still in work, and that is absolutely vital, that economic support and it comes from the broad shoulders of the uk treasury. michael gove, joining us from west london, thank you for your time this morning. london, thank you for your time this morninu. . ~ london, thank you for your time this morninu. ., ~ i. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. carol has a lovely picture of a bridge. carol has a lovely picture of a bride. . , . ., ., , carol has a lovely picture of a bride. . ,. ., ., , , bridge. nice picture, carol. this is a erskine bridge, _ bridge. nice picture, carol. this is a erskine bridge, one _ bridge. nice picture, carol. this is a erskine bridge, one of— bridge. nice picture, carol. this is a erskine bridge, one of the - bridge. nice picture, carol. this is i a erskine bridge, one of the weather watchers sent it in and it is now in our library but it shows it is raining across some parts of the uk and we also have hill snow and a lot of that is moving north and east. it is all tied in with this area of low pressure which is all the cloud rotating around it and some heavy rain and some heavy snow on the tops of the hills, but it's also dragging in milder air across many parts of the uk, not so across northern and eastern parts of scotland in the final state of england where it will remain cold. we have had a lot of rain as we have gone through the course of the night and we still have hill snow across parts of northern england and southern scotland into the highlands and grampian is, behind that, something brighter will follow one and we will see sunshine, quite murky, cloudy and drizzly in the south—west before rain arrives later and continues to advance northwards across scotland. in fact, by tomorrow morning we could have as much as 15 or 20 centimetres across the highlands and grampians above 200 metres. and up to about 15 centimetres by the end of the afternoon on the tops of the pennines. temperature —wise, [i pennines. temperature —wise, 11 degrees in aberdeen, 2 degrees in lerwick but very mild for northern ireland and much of england and wales. 1a degrees in london is way above average for this time of year. through the evening and overnight you can see the snow advance north across the skills of scotland and we also have a new batch of rain coming up also have a new batch of rain coming up towards the north as well and that will merge with the band of snow, the two weather fronts as we go through the course of the night. it's going to be a cold night in scotland, particularly in the glens and there will be the risk of ice, frost as well but for northern ireland and much of england and also wales it's going to be a mild night. as we head on through tomorrow, the two fronts that have merged will slowly start to sink southwards again, taking the cloud and sharing outbreaks of rain and wintering us with them but that will tend to peter out for most of us and in scotland there will be dry weather, sunshine, wintry showers persisting across the northern isles and ahead of it in south wales and also southern england, again, a lot of dry weather with some sunshine and still mild, looking at ten and 11. but one thing you will notice compared to today is the cold air is seeping south and by the end of the day we have a weather front waiting in the wings. this one is presenting us with a bit of a problem is to just how far north it is going to travel and if you hear in mind that we have this cold air coming south as well, if this rain engages with the cold air we could see some snow, so the issue isjust the cold air we could see some snow, so the issue is just how far north this is going to go and where we will see the snow. at the moment, the scenario, we think, will bring the scenario, we think, will bring the rain across wales and southern england with hill snow in wales and possibly into the midlands as well, but one thing you will notice is it's going to feel cold where ever you are, except for the far south—west and the channel islands. ifi if i send you a picture, does it go in the library? how does it work? it in the library? how does it work? ht depends. the picture i showed you earlier of the erskine bridge is great because you can see the weather, and we like having pictures of the weather, like rain, snow and sunshine, all the elements, frost, and if they're particularly good, then we keep them and we will use them in the future, notjust on the day. them in the future, not 'ust on the da . ., ., .. , ., them in the future, not 'ust on the da. ., , ., ., day. challenge accepted. i am going to send carol _ day. challenge 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in carroll's library, that's a special place to be. in a moment we have something special, as we are going to india and will be anjimmy anderson's hotel room. could we just say, because we've done a lot of this on breakfast, talking about how the fa and various bodies are actively discouraging these kinds of hugs on the pitch.— hugs on the pitch. we've seen it in a lot of matches, _ hugs on the pitch. we've seen it in a lot of matches, not _ hugs on the pitch. we've seen it in a lot of matches, notjust - hugs on the pitch. we've seen it in j a lot of matches, notjust sheffield united players getting carried away and it is still happening. rock bottom side sheffield united hadn't won away in the league all season and manchester united have been flying and were hoping to go top. but oliver burke got the goal that gave sheffield united a 2—1win and a vital three points in theirfight against relegation. their first win at old trafford since 1973. not enough social distancing from players there. they're not the only ones. manchester united stay second. there was a first game in charge for the new chelsea boss, thomas tuchel. he only took over on tuesday, following the sacking of frank lampard. but it was a frustrating start for the german, as his side drew 0—0 with wolves. mateo kovacic, among those who went close, but the blues couldn't conjure up a goal. leicester and everton and fulham and brighton also drew, while burnley edged aston villa 3—2. and in scotland rangers maintain their 23 point lead at the top thanks to a win over hibernian. steven gerrard's side dominated the game, with alfredo morelos scoring the only goal in the second half at easter road. second placed celtic beat hamilton. and in the women's super league, leaders chelsea have set a new record of 32 games unbeaten after thrashing aston villa 4—0. sam kerr smashed in chelsea's opening goal, as emma hayes' side overtake manchester united to return to the top of the table. england's paul casey got off to a flying start, at the dubai desert classic this morning. he birdied the first 11 holes of his opening round to go straight to the top of the leaderboard. even when he was in trouble, he managed to rescue himself. a few holes still to play but he's five under along with sergio garcia. the vendee globe, round—the—world sailing race, has been won by the man, who finshed third, but was given a bonus of more than 10 hours, for his role in rescuing a fellow competitor. yannick bestaven was declared the winner when he arrived in france this morning. he had gone out of his way to help a fellow frenchman whose boat eventually sank off the cape of good hope during the race in november. the leading british sailor pip hare is expected to finish around 11th february. it's time now for our regular "lockdown life" series — where we enlist the help of some familiar faces for advice and ideas on how to get through lockdown. today it's the turn of england's greatest ever bowler, jimmy anderson. he's currently quarantined in a hotel room in india after the team's second test victory against sri lanka this week. morningjimmy. thanks for inviting us into your room, which is your home, isn't it, for the next few days. it room, which is your home, isn't it, for the next few days.— for the next few days. it is, good morninu. for the next few days. it is, good morning. congratulations - for the next few days. it is, good morning. congratulations on - for the next few days. it is, good | morning. congratulations on your disla in morning. congratulations on your display in sri _ morning. congratulations on your display in sri lanka, _ morning. congratulations on your display in sri lanka, but - morning. congratulations on your display in sri lanka, but this - morning. congratulations on your display in sri lanka, but this is i display in sri lanka, but this is your home now, you are quarantining for what, the next four days? what is the room like? it is lunchtime there isn't it? it’s is the room like? it is lunchtime there isn't it?_ there isn't it? it's a pretty standard _ there isn't it? it's a pretty standard hotel— there isn't it? it's a pretty standard hotel room. - there isn't it? it's a pretty standard hotel room. we | there isn't it? it's a pretty - standard hotel room. we have to there isn't it? it's a pretty _ standard hotel room. we have to do six days _ standard hotel room. we have to do six days altogether, so another five left of _ six days altogether, so another five left of quarantine and then we can -et left of quarantine and then we can get out _ left of quarantine and then we can get out and start training ahead of the test _ get out and start training ahead of the test series in the first one starts — the test series in the first one starts on _ the test series in the first one starts on the 5th of february. yes, end of next _ starts on the 5th of february. yes, end of next week. _ starts on the 5th of february. yes, end of next week. how— starts on the 5th of february. yes, end of next week. how do - starts on the 5th of february. us: end of next week. how do you cope with time alone? is it a chance for you to reflect on that brilliant display, taking six wickets in the second test in sri lanka? definitely. we spend a lot of time together— definitely. we spend a lot of time together as a team, so it's nice to have _ together as a team, so it's nice to have time — together as a team, so it's nice to have time to — together as a team, so it's nice to have time to yourself. and yes, reflect — have time to yourself. and yes, reflect on— have time to yourself. and yes, reflect on what was a good test series— reflect on what was a good test series win — reflect on what was a good test series win and also look forward to what _ series win and also look forward to what will_ series win and also look forward to what will be a really exciting series — what will be a really exciting series against india. you what will be a really exciting series against india. did series against india. you are 38 and did become — series against india. you are 38 and did become the _ series against india. you are 38 and did become the oldest _ series against india. you are 38 and did become the oldest seam - series against india. you are 38 and did become the oldest seam bowlerj series against india. you are 38 and i did become the oldest seam bowler to claim a five wicket haul in asia. what keeps you going as age does not seem to be a factor? l what keeps you going as age does not seem to be a factor?— seem to be a factor? i don't really think about _ seem to be a factor? i don't really think about my — seem to be a factor? i don't really think about my age _ seem to be a factor? i don't really think about my age and _ seem to be a factor? i don't really think about my age and it's - think about my age and it's something everyone else focuses on, but for— something everyone else focuses on, but for me _ something everyone else focuses on, but for me it's not an issue. i really— but for me it's not an issue. i really thrive on trying to improve myself _ really thrive on trying to improve myself as— really thrive on trying to improve myself as a bowler, trying to get fitter— myself as a bowler, trying to get fitter and — myself as a bowler, trying to get fitter and i've done a lot of work on sprinting in the last six months and leading into the series in sri lanka _ and leading into the series in sri lanka and _ and leading into the series in sri lanka. and i have got quicker, running — lanka. and i have got quicker, running as— lanka. and i have got quicker, running as fast as i ever have, and i want _ running as fast as i ever have, and i want to— running as fast as i ever have, and i want to try— running as fast as i ever have, and i want to try and be as good as i can be — i want to try and be as good as i can be i— i want to try and be as good as i can be. i think there is still something in me where i can get better~ _ something in me where i can get better. . ., ., ., ., ., better. the challenge for a lot of eo - le better. the challenge for a lot of people and _ better. the challenge for a lot of people and l _ better. the challenge for a lot of people and i can _ better. the challenge for a lot of people and i can see _ better. the challenge for a lot of people and i can see the - better. the challenge for a lot of people and i can see the room i people and i can see the room doesn't look that big, sprinting will be a challenge in the next six days and a lot of people stuck inside in a small room, maybe don't have a garden, can relate about how you will try to get through lockdown, and your ways of keeping fit and active. what can you offer us in terms of top tips if you are in a small space and you cannot sprint? in a small space and you cannot srint? ~ . . in a small space and you cannot srint?~ ., ., . , , sprint? we have a few exercises we have to do — sprint? we have a few exercises we have to do while _ sprint? we have a few exercises we have to do while we _ sprint? we have a few exercises we have to do while we are _ sprint? we have a few exercises we have to do while we are in - sprint? we have a few exercises we have to do while we are in our- have to do while we are in our rooms — have to do while we are in our rooms we _ have to do while we are in our rooms. we are lucky enough to have quite _ rooms. we are lucky enough to have quite high _ rooms. we are lucky enough to have quite high ceilings, sol rooms. we are lucky enough to have quite high ceilings, so i will do some — quite high ceilings, so i will do some skipping, so shall i carry on? if you _ some skipping, so shall i carry on? if you can— some skipping, so shall i carry on? if you can do— some skipping, so shall i carry on? if you can do it while talking at the same time. bit of multi—skilling. be careful of the lamps on the pictures behind you. and that precious lamp on the table and also on your left. there we go. not a great start. we can't sprint, so it's— not a great start. we can't sprint, so it's a — not a great start. we can't sprint, so it's a way— not a great start. we can't sprint, so it's a way of keeping going. i'm struggling — so it's a way of keeping going. i'm struggling to talk and concentrate. it doesn't — struggling to talk and concentrate. it doesn't help if it snags on the carpet. how many can you do in a row normally? l’m carpet. how many can you do in a row normall ? �* , ., ., normally? i'm struggling to get to five at the minute, _ normally? i'm struggling to get to five at the minute, but _ normally? i'm struggling to get to five at the minute, but we - normally? i'm struggling to get to five at the minute, but we try - normally? i'm struggling to get to five at the minute, but we try to i normally? i'm struggling to get to. five at the minute, but we try to do 30 seconds — five at the minute, but we try to do 30 seconds to a minute and then have a break— 30 seconds to a minute and then have a break of— 30 seconds to a minute and then have a break of about 30 seconds and do that about — a break of about 30 seconds and do that about five times.— that about five times. that's brilliant. i— that about five times. that's brilliant. i am _ that about five times. that's brilliant. i am talking - that about five times. that's brilliant. i am talking at - that about five times. that's brilliant. i am talking at the | that about five times. that's - brilliant. i am talking at the same time so i'm distract —— distracting you. why is it good for cricket and for everyday life? you can hopefully get a skipping rope quite cheaply and do it themselves. it is and do it themselves. it is something. _ and do it themselves. it is something, like _ and do it themselves. it is something, like you - and do it themselves. it is something, like you say, i and do it themselves. it is something, like you say, you can use anything _ something, like you say, you can use anything to— something, like you say, you can use anything to do it. you could use a washing _ anything to do it. you could use a washing line or anything you have lying _ washing line or anything you have lying around the house, but itjust helps _ lying around the house, but itjust helps the — lying around the house, but itjust helps the heart rate get higher and when _ helps the heart rate get higher and when you _ helps the heart rate get higher and when you are stocking your room it helps _ when you are stocking your room it helps keep — when you are stocking your room it helps keep that cv ticking over and it also, _ helps keep that cv ticking over and it also, for— helps keep that cv ticking over and it also, for me, i've had a few issues — it also, for me, i've had a few issues with— it also, for me, i've had a few issues with my calves in the past, so it— issues with my calves in the past, so it helps— issues with my calves in the past, so it helps me to keep moving. what else can you — so it helps me to keep moving. what else can you do? _ so it helps me to keep moving. what else can you do? there's _ so it helps me to keep moving. larnsglt else can you do? there's been so it helps me to keep moving. kwngt else can you do? there's been a few of the athletes that have used bits of the athletes that have used bits of the athletes that have used bits of the room, like max whitlock he uses his sofa. are there squats you can do if you don't have a skipping rope? can do if you don't have a skipping roe? ., ., , can do if you don't have a skipping ro e? ., ., , ., rope? yeah, we have been doing su uats rope? yeah, we have been doing squats and _ rope? yeah, we have been doing squats and we — rope? yeah, we have been doing squats and we do _ rope? yeah, we have been doing squats and we do press - rope? yeah, we have been doing squats and we do press ups - rope? yeah, we have been doing squats and we do press ups and| squats and we do press ups and planks— squats and we do press ups and planks as — squats and we do press ups and planks as well, because four bowlers, _ planks as well, because four bowlers, we have to look after our sides— bowlers, we have to look after our sides as _ bowlers, we have to look after our sides as they take a lot of stress, so we _ sides as they take a lot of stress, so we try— sides as they take a lot of stress, so we try to — sides as they take a lot of stress, so we try to do side planks which is built into _ so we try to do side planks which is built into the programme to keep them _ built into the programme to keep them strong as possible. when built into the programme to keep them strong as possible.- them strong as possible. when it comes to press — them strong as possible. when it comes to press ups, _ them strong as possible. when it comes to press ups, better - them strong as possible. when it comes to press ups, better to - them strong as possible. when it comes to press ups, better to do| them strong as possible. when it i comes to press ups, better to do on the floor? but if you do that now, you'll disappear. may be on the edge of the bed? can you use something to help with people don't feel comfortable about doing standard presence? comfortable about doing standard resence? . comfortable about doing standard resence? , , ., comfortable about doing standard resence? , , presence? yes, you can put your feet u . presence? yes, you can put your feet u- on a presence? yes, you can put your feet up on a chair- — presence? yes, you can put your feet up on a chair. show— presence? yes, you can put your feet up on a chair. show us. _ presence? yes, you can put your feet up on a chair. show us. bear - presence? yes, you can put your feet up on a chair. show us. bear in - up on a chair. show us. bear in mind, i up on a chair. show us. bear in mind. i do _ up on a chair. show us. bear in mind, i do appreciate - up on a chair. show us. bear in mind, i do appreciate you - up on a chair. show us. bear in mind, i do appreciate you are i up on a chair. show us. bear in | mind, i do appreciate you are in up on a chair. show us. bear in i mind, i do appreciate you are in a small space there. i know you have something prepared for us. l was something prepared for us. i was auoin to something prepared for us. i was going to do _ something prepared for us. i was going to do the _ something prepared for us. i was going to do the squats, - something prepared for us. i was going to do the squats, they i something prepared for us. i was going to do the squats, they are probably— going to do the squats, they are probably the easiest thing to show you. probably the easiest thing to show you we _ probably the easiest thing to show you. we try and do ten or 12 and lunges— you. we try and do ten or 12 and lunges as — you. we try and do ten or 12 and lunges as well, and again, that's helping — lunges as well, and again, that's helping the legs stay strong and active — helping the legs stay strong and active. ., , helping the legs stay strong and active. .,, ., ., helping the legs stay strong and active. ., ., , �* active. those are great because i'm t in: active. those are great because i'm trying them — active. those are great because i'm trying them now. — active. those are great because i'm trying them now, and _ active. those are great because i'm trying them now, and luckily - active. those are great because i'm trying them now, and luckily you i trying them now, and luckily you can't see me, but those are great because you can do those anywhere. you can. and i think, for me, it's just— you can. and i think, for me, it's just trying — you can. and i think, for me, it's just trying to _ you can. and i think, for me, it's just trying to keep whatever it is you enjoy, — just trying to keep whatever it is you enjoy, find something you enjoy at home _ you enjoy, find something you enjoy at home and get a routine going, because — at home and get a routine going, because for us, we feel like a routine — because for us, we feel like a routine really helps us and takes our mind — routine really helps us and takes our mind off things and gives us something to focus on as well. and when ou something to focus on as well. jifuc when you finally relax, is it a film you put on or play a little game? wind down?— you put on or play a little game? wind down? yes, a lot of the guys have not wind down? yes, a lot of the guys have got video _ wind down? yes, a lot of the guys have got video games _ wind down? yes, a lot of the guys have got video games and - wind down? yes, a lot of the guys have got video games and things i wind down? yes, a lot of the guys i have got video games and things like that to _ have got video games and things like that to play out here but the tv has taken _ that to play out here but the tv has taken a _ that to play out here but the tv has taken a hit. — that to play out here but the tv has taken a hit, lots of films and box sets, _ taken a hit, lots of films and box sets, that — taken a hit, lots of films and box sets, that is _ taken a hit, lots of films and box sets, that is passing the time. jimmy. — sets, that is passing the time. jimmy, thanks so much and enjoy the peace and quiet and we look forward to seeing you in action next friday when the first test in india starts and i think we can all do a few of these today, calmly. ls and i think we can all do a few of these today, calmly. is it and i think we can all do a few of these today, calmly.— these today, calmly. is it wrong. that's weird. _ these today, calmly. is it wrong. that's weird. can _ these today, calmly. is it wrong. that's weird. can we _ these today, calmly. is it wrong. that's weird. can we stop - these today, calmly. is it wrong. that's weird. can we stop that i these today, calmly. is it wrong. i that's weird. can we stop that now? is it wrong that i take some satisfaction from the fact that one of the biggest international sports stars gets his skipping slightly wrong. stars gets his skipping slightly wronu. . stars gets his skipping slightly wronu. , ., , ,., stars gets his skipping slightly wronu. , ., wrong. the bed was so close, and the lam -s in wrong. the bed was so close, and the lamps in the — wrong. the bed was so close, and the lamps in the pictures _ wrong. the bed was so close, and the lamps in the pictures on _ wrong. the bed was so close, and the lamps in the pictures on the - wrong. the bed was so close, and the lamps in the pictures on the wall, i lamps in the pictures on the wall, you can understand.— you can understand. quite right. headhnes you can understand. quite right. headlines coming _ you can understand. quite right. headlines coming up. _ good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today — at least another five weeks of lockdown. current restrictions in england will stay and schools will remain shut until the eighth of march at the earliest. the prime minister prepares to visit scotland amid demands for another independence referendum, but nicola sturgeon questions if the trip is essential. the eu and the uk—based vaccine maker astrazeneca have vowed to work together to resolve supply shortages. and we meet the covid—19 survivors still suffering long after beating the virus. taking the plunge in the middle of a pandemic. figures out today are set to confirm 2020 was a record year for business startups. i speak with three people who dared to follow their dream. and double olympic rowing champion helen glover tells breakfast about her return to the sport. we to the sport. have a band of heavy rain and mostly we have a band of heavy rain and mostly hill snow pushing north—eastwards today. far north of scotland staying dry and cold. behind the band of rain, brightening up behind the band of rain, brightening up and very mild for the time of year. more details later in the programme. good morning. it“s thursday the 28th of january. our top story — it'll be at least another five weeks of lockdown for england, after borisjohnson said schools will not re—open fully to all pupils until the 8th of march at the earliest. the prime minister says he'll outline at the end of february how the latest restrictions might be eased. it comes as a new study suggests infection levels are still very high. jon donnison reports. for now, home—schooling is here to stay. we hope it will therefore be safe to begin the reopening of- schools from monday the 8th of march. i with other economic and social restrictions being removed - thereafter as and when the data permits. - there were few specifics, but later, the downing street briefing, borisjohnson did promise to present a broader plan for getting out of lockdown. in the week beginning 22nd of february, we will - set out our plan, not just. for reopening our schools, but gradually to reopen our economy and our society, _ and to get our lives back - to as close to normal as possible. but that timetable will depend on the numbers, which are mixed. the latest daily uk figures show 1,725 new deaths were reported, the second—highest number so far since the pandemic struck. more than 37,000 people were in hospital with coronavirus over the seven days to the 25th of january. but new cases are continuing to fall, with 25,308 new infections recorded in the latest 24—hour period. and more than 7 million people have now received the first dose of a vaccine. we have certainly seen fairly dramatic drops already in case numbers, hospitalisations, new hospitalisations are declining quite rapidly now, and i think we're going to see the death rate as well starting to decline. it has certainly plateaued and has started to dip at last. so hopefully we are past the worst. much will depend on the continued vaccine roll—out, but after more than 100,000 deaths, and with hospitals still stretched, any sense of optimism can only be cautious. jon donnison, bbc news. our chief political correspondent adam fleming joins us now. we spoke to michael gove earlier in the programme. a couple of things we looked at, scotland, which are to talk about any moment, but the other thing we were looking at is lockdown. so schools are not going to fully reopen before march of the apes, but i also asked him how that would relate to other restrictions as well —— march the 8th. what did you take from that? l as well -- march the 8th. what did you take from that?— as well -- march the 8th. what did you take from that? i took from that that the government _ you take from that? i took from that that the government is _ you take from that? i took from that that the government is being - you take from that? i took from that that the government is being very i that the government is being very cautious, not wanting to speculate about the plan that they will unveil what the couple of weeks before the 8th of march might look like, because they do not want to get people soaked up, but we do know that schools will be first in line to reopen, which means that pubs and restaurants will be further down the queue. we need to wait to see what the plan contains. it is still a couple of weeks before it is formulated, so there will be lobbying from various groups for them to be included in the plan. i also it was interesting and the prime minister's press conference yesterday, he said they wanted all schools and all year groups to go back at the same time. i think at the moment, that means they don't want to look at certain bits of the country, although the progress of children's education and the progress of the virus might mean they have to go back on that. the remise they have to go back on that. the premise of— they have to go back on that. the premise of visiting scotland today, all of this with the backdrop of various polls showing increased appetite for an independence referendum there. l appetite for an independence referendum there.— appetite for an independence referendum there. ~ referendum there. i think something like 20 opinion _ referendum there. i think something like 20 opinion polls _ referendum there. i think something like 20 opinion polls now— referendum there. i think something like 20 opinion polls now have - referendum there. i think something | like 20 opinion polls now have shown that the independence case is beating the union case amongst the public. they are just snapshots, and there is no independence referendum yet. we have on the horizon is the elections for the scottish parliament, which we think to happen at the beginning of may. and that is why you're seeing a ramping up of activity from the uk government defending the idea of the union, the relationship between scotland and england, and wales and northern ireland, that is why the prime minister is going to scotland today, talking about all the benefits scotland has had, things like the furlough scheme, the vaccine, which was invented in oxford and is produced by a british drug company, and the british army is helping to deliver it. nicola sturgeon, the first minister of scotland, has said she is not exactly ecstatic about the prime minister going to scotland. she is not ecstatic for public health reasons, but also a few political reasons as well. michael gove, one of the people spearheading the defence of the union, the uk government says, the prime minister is totally entitled to make the trip.— prime minister is totally entitled to make the trip. there are a easy new vaccination _ to make the trip. there are a easy new vaccination centres _ to make the trip. there are a easy new vaccination centres in - to make the trip. there are a easy| new vaccination centres in scotland opening _ new vaccination centres in scotland opening as — new vaccination centres in scotland opening as a result of the british army's— opening as a result of the british army's efforts. i think it is and without— army's efforts. i think it is and without that the prime minister learns— without that the prime minister learns from those responsible for the vaccine relate, it also makes sure _ the vaccine relate, it also makes sure that — the vaccine relate, it also makes sure that we do even better. that is part of— sure that we do even better. that is part of the — sure that we do even better. that is part of the job of any leader, to thank— part of the job of any leader, to thank those who are making a difference, but also to hear directly _ difference, but also to hear directly what we can do to make sure the delivery— directly what we can do to make sure the delivery is even better. but whiser the delivery is even better. but whisper it _ the delivery is even better. emit whisper it quietly, they are even people in borisjohnson“s side of the argument in scotland who aren't super enthusiastic about him being there either. ok. super enthusiastic about him being there either-— there either. ok. always good to chat to you. _ there either. ok. always good to chat to you, adam. _ there either. ok. always good to chat to you, adam. thanks - there either. ok. always good to chat to you, adam. thanks very l there either. ok. always good to - chat to you, adam. thanks very much. astrazeneca bosses have met with eu officials to try to resolve their dispute over a shortage of the oxford vaccine. the eu is demanding that tens of millions of doses produced in the uk should be diverted to the rest of europe. both sides say a meeting last night was "constructive". here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. at the moment in exeter, it is 12 celsius, whereas in aboyne, it is colder, —3. in the forecast today, a band of rain, and mostly hill snow pushing north—eastwards. some of it has been heavy going through the course of the night. moving steadily towards the north and east, depositing snow over the pennines. also the southern uplands. it will continue moving upwards through the grampians and highland through the rest of the day. but behind it, brighter skies coming through, and ahead of it too, across the north highlands, some some time with a few showers in lerwick, for the top temperature today will be two celsius. compare that to the south and northern ireland, looking at 11 to 14 and northern ireland, looking at 11 to 1a celsius. you cannot feel to notice this next system coming in, by the end of the afternoon, going through the evening and overnight, it too is going to follow a similar path in that it is moving northwards and eastwards, eventuallyjoining and eastwards, eventually joining with and eastwards, eventuallyjoining with this band here. so these are two fronts merging. we've also got some showers coming in across wales, western parts of england, some of which could be heavy and thundery, but tonight is going to be mild for northern ireland, england, and wales, where as it is going to be pretty cool across scotland. these temperatures are towns and cities. in sheltered lines, you can expect some frost, and as we have through tomorrow, two maj fronts sink south, brighter skies following behind with some wintry showers in the north, some wintry showers in the north, some sunshine in the south, where we arejust clinging on some sunshine in the south, where we are just clinging on to the milder air, by the skin of our teeth. but thatis air, by the skin of our teeth. but that is going to change over the weekend. thank you, carol. many parents in england this morning are waking up to the prospect of at least another five weeks of home—schooling ahead of them. yesterday, the prime minister said that schools won't fully reopen until at least march the 8th. breakfast“s graham satchell has been getting reaction from a few of those familiesjuggling learning in lockdown. the news that schools in england won't open again until march at the earliest, a bitter blow for sam. her younger daughter in particular has really struggled. mr; younger daughter in particular has really struggled.— younger daughter in particular has really struggled. my daughter, and her online class, _ really struggled. my daughter, and her online class, had _ really struggled. my daughter, and her online class, had to _ really struggled. my daughter, and her online class, had to review- really struggled. my daughter, and | her online class, had to review how she was feeling at the moment, and she was feeling at the moment, and she is six, and to top concerns were, i worry i am never going to see my family again, and her second was, ifeel sad when i hear how see my family again, and her second was, i feel sad when i hear how many people have died. and for a six—year—old, for those to be the first two things they are thinking about, its material how much of an impact that is having on her mental health. istale impact that is having on her mental health. ~ ., , , ., health. we are 'ust sitting at the kitchen table i health. we are just sitting at the kitchen table working, _ health. we are just sitting at the kitchen table working, because i health. we are just sitting at the l kitchen table working, because we have not— kitchen table working, because we have not done any school today. working — have not done any school today. working families are really struggling. it is that emotional side of it, that is huge, we have got the practical... bhd side of it, that is huge, we have got the practical. . ._ side of it, that is huge, we have got the practical... and once again, vic is got the practical... and once again, vicky is interrupted. _ got the practical... and once again, vicky is interrupted. the _ got the practical... and once again, vicky is interrupted. the key - got the practical... and once again, vicky is interrupted. the key is i got the practical... and once again, vicky is interrupted. the key is a i vicky is interrupted. the key is a single mother with four school—age children juggling family, single mother with four school—age childrenjuggling family, home, and running her own business. it’s childrenjuggling family, home, and running her own business.— running her own business. it's all caettin a running her own business. it's all getting a bit _ running her own business. it's all getting a bit tense. _ running her own business. it's all getting a bit tense. and - running her own business. it's all getting a bit tense. and now i'm| getting a bit tense. and now i'm thinking, stop right now, i'll get back to it, and i'll be working until midnight. we are all going to reach burn—out if we carry on like this. i don't know what the answer is, though, i'm not saying openly schools, instead we need some direction and some hope on the horizon. ,., ., ., ., ., direction and some hope on the horizon. ., ., ., horizon. good afternoon, thanks for 'oinin: us. horizon. good afternoon, thanks for joining us- the _ horizon. good afternoon, thanks for joining us. the hole _ horizon. good afternoon, thanks for joining us. the hole had _ horizon. good afternoon, thanks for joining us. the hole had been i horizon. good afternoon, thanks for joining us. the hole had been that i joining us. the hole had been that schools in england _ joining us. the hole had been that schools in england with _ joining us. the hole had been that schools in england with open i joining us. the hole had been that| schools in england with open again after the february half term, but with cases still high and the vaccine programme nowhere near complete, this from the prime minister. ~ ., , ., complete, this from the prime minister. ~ ., , minister. we hope to begin opening schools on monday _ minister. we hope to begin opening schools on monday the _ minister. we hope to begin opening schools on monday the 8th - minister. we hope to begin opening schools on monday the 8th of- minister. we hope to begin opening i schools on monday the 8th of march. so what _ schools on monday the 8th of march. so what about — schools on monday the 8th of march. so what about schools _ schools on monday the 8th of march. so what about schools and _ schools on monday the 8th of march. so what about schools and the - schools on monday the 8th of march. so what about schools and the rest i so what about schools and the rest of the uk? northern ireland is reviewing its plans today. wales will make an announcement on friday. scotland early next week. the likelihood is schools in all four nations will remain closed for most students. l nations will remain closed for most students. ~ , ., nations will remain closed for most students. ~' , ., , students. i think everyone is findin: students. i think everyone is finding it _ students. i think everyone is finding it stressful, - students. i think everyone is i finding it stressful, particularly those of us juggling work and home school at the same time. in those of usjuggling work and home school at the same time.— school at the same time. in the midlands. _ school at the same time. in the midlands, laura's _ school at the same time. in the midlands, laura's two - school at the same time. in the midlands, laura's two children | school at the same time. in the i midlands, laura's two children are doing their best with home—schooling. laura agrees with the government. allowing children from different households to mix is too risky at the moment. this from different households to mix is too risky at the moment.— too risky at the moment. this is far from over. — too risky at the moment. this is far from over. and _ too risky at the moment. this is far from over, and as _ too risky at the moment. this is far from over, and as much _ too risky at the moment. this is far from over, and as much as - too risky at the moment. this is far from over, and as much as it i too risky at the moment. this is far from over, and as much as it is i from over, and as much as it is uncomfortable and hard, those of us with young children at home to be supporting, i do think it is a necessary evil, and i have resigned myself to it for some time to come. can you tell me what it is? too late. mark and vicky's two boys are already learning adverbial phrases and subordinate conjunctions. their parents really want them to be in school. but they recognise the seriousness of the current situation. seriousness of the current situation-— seriousness of the current situation. ., ., ., . situation. now that we watch the news a lot _ situation. now that we watch the news a lot more _ situation. now that we watch the news a lot more and _ situation. now that we watch the news a lot more and see - news a lot more and see developments, i think we have got our heads around it. it is developments, i think we have got our heads around it.— our heads around it. it is no surprise. — our heads around it. it is no surprise. we _ our heads around it. it is no surprise, we had _ our heads around it. it is no surprise, we had heard i our heads around it. it is no i surprise, we had heard rumours saying _ surprise, we had heard rumours saying after easter, so to me, the 8th of— saying after easter, so to me, the 8th of march, 0k, we can head for that _ 8th of march, 0k, we can head for that i_ 8th of march, 0k, we can head for that. i would like to see the teachers _ that. i would like to see the teachers made a priority to be vaccinated, i think that could change — vaccinated, i think that could change things.— change things. that is now a olitical change things. that is now a political row _ change things. that is now a political row about _ change things. that is now a political row about whether i political row about whether vaccinated teachers should be a priority. howeverthat vaccinated teachers should be a priority. however that turns out, parents and children are once again facing the long slog of many more weeks of home—schooling. —— whether vaccinating teachers should be a priority. let's speak to geoff barton, who's from the association of school and college leaders, and primary school headteacher sarah white. how are you doing? you have a number of angles you are coming at the scrum. first of all, i will ask you as a mother, because you have two kids yourself. —— you are coming at this from. and some of the time, they are at school, but sometimes not. how is that going? it is they are at school, but sometimes not. how is that going?— not. how is that going? it is not eas , it not. how is that going? it is not easy. it is _ not. how is that going? it is not easy. it is a _ not. how is that going? it is not easy, it is a challenge. - not. how is that going? it is not easy, it is a challenge. they i not. how is that going? it is not easy, it is a challenge. they are gone for only half the week. i know i could have sent them for the whole week, but i didn't want to put the burden on their own schools to have them. i know they have a lot of other children attending. so my husband and i have chosen to keep them home for half the week. and it is hard, because we are both working full time, we arejust is hard, because we are both working full time, we are just doing our best, at whatever it is, that is good enough for us at the moment. straight away, i'm thinking they are people listening to you right now saying, i had a head teacher this morning on tv saying it is a bit of a struggle teaching at home. i think they will find that may be a little bit reassuring.— they will find that may be a little bit reassuring. that is one of the reasons i have _ bit reassuring. that is one of the reasons i have done _ bit reassuring. that is one of the reasons i have done the - bit reassuring. that is one of the reasons i have done the media i bit reassuring. that is one of the i reasons i have done the media stuff this week is for people to realise that people who work in education and human beings as well, and that we are going through the struggles ourselves as well as trying to run schools and to teach, we have our own families, and it is hard, it is ok to find things hard and to share 0k to find things hard and to share that vulnerability. lhq ok to find things hard and to share that vulnerability.— that vulnerability. i'm going to uuote that vulnerability. i'm going to quote from — that vulnerability. i'm going to quote from the _ that vulnerability. i'm going to quote from the letter - that vulnerability. i'm going to quote from the letter that i that vulnerability. i'm going to quote from the letter that he i that vulnerability. i'm going to i quote from the letter that he wrote that has obviously been picked up by so many people, sarah, because i think you hit the nail on the head, you are talking about that magnet was sent last week, and that was quite a glum week, people were talking about blue monday and all that, that awful week in january, and you that, that awful week injanuary, and you said, i that, that awful week in january, and you said, i really felt the strain this week, times are tough at the moment, our mental health, the weather has not helped and we need to support each other and get through this together. then you go on to say, you are surviving a pandemic. whatever your personal circumstances, you are saying to parents, we think you're doing a greatjob. if your child has had lots of microwave meals, stayed up too late, not finish their schoolwork, it is ok. we know our pupils are safe, loved, and cared for, that is the most important thing at the moment. you also add, we may be closed, although schools are not fully closed, but we are still here emotionally for all of ourfamilies. if you need support, chat, a cry, we are here. how did parents react to that letter? by the way, well done, what a lovely letter. how did parents react? the reaction has _ letter. how did parents react? the: reaction has been letter. how did parents react? tte: reaction has been incredible. on friday, initially, after sending the letter, i had e—mails coming back on and won calls to schools straight away in the immediate community, just saying thank you, and lots of people saying they really needed to hear that today, and i didn't realise that i had picked up on the tone so much, to be honest, and then as the weekend and this week have run on, and it has gone viral, i think the general consensus is that i think people needed to know that they weren't on their own, and that everyone is kind of in the same challenge at the minute, trying to balance of and i think hearing somebody say it is ok not to be ok, and communicate and reach out, it's what people needed to hear, and i think that is why it struck a chord. let's go tojeff. you will know better than us, so important, you hearfrom better than us, so important, you hear from school leaders, that is one part of the picture, which is brilliant. the other part of it as the mechanics, now we have the state that most schools that are currently open to a degree, they will be fully reopened march the 8th. this is the target date, the earliest date. talk us through a bit of the mechanics between now and then. idale us through a bit of the mechanics between now and then.— us through a bit of the mechanics between now and then. we have to do better than we — between now and then. we have to do better than we have _ between now and then. we have to do better than we have done _ between now and then. we have to do better than we have done before, i between now and then. we have to do better than we have done before, we. better than we have done before, we have to _ better than we have done before, we have to have a garment working with those _ have to have a garment working with those of _ have to have a garment working with those of us _ have to have a garment working with those of us in schools. part of it is the _ those of us in schools. part of it is the authenticity of the human voice. _ is the authenticity of the human voice. but — is the authenticity of the human voice, but also the plan for young people _ voice, but also the plan for young people to — voice, but also the plan for young people to return. the prime minister yesterday— people to return. the prime minister yesterday said a different tone, we had less— yesterday said a different tone, we had less of— yesterday said a different tone, we had less of the churchillian rhetoric, _ had less of the churchillian rhetoric, we had a bit more sense of realism _ rhetoric, we had a bit more sense of realism that — rhetoric, we had a bit more sense of realism that people have been craving — realism that people have been craving i_ realism that people have been craving. i also think it is fair to say. _ craving. i also think it is fair to say, if— craving. i also think it is fair to say. if you _ craving. i also think it is fair to say, if you don't mind me saying so, that there _ say, if you don't mind me saying so, that there is — say, if you don't mind me saying so, that there is a — say, if you don't mind me saying so, that there is a different tone coming _ that there is a different tone coming from the department for education, people saying, we have to have a _ education, people saying, we have to have a plan — education, people saying, we have to have a plan. quite what that will look like. — have a plan. quite what that will look like, it is too early to say, but we — look like, it is too early to say, but we can— look like, it is too early to say, but we can roll some things in and some _ but we can roll some things in and some things out, if scientists say that young — some things out, if scientists say that young people can be back in schools — that young people can be back in schools across regions or the whole country. _ schools across regions or the whole country. we — schools across regions or the whole country, we might have to do it with groups— country, we might have to do it with groups of— country, we might have to do it with groups of students initially, bringing some younger children into primary, _ bringing some younger children into primary, the young people and further— primary, the young people and further education who needs technical equipment for their courses _ technical equipment for their courses i_ technical equipment for their courses. i am speculating on what that might — courses. i am speculating on what that might look like, but even the fact we _ that might look like, but even the fact we are — that might look like, but even the fact we are talking about that, i hope _ fact we are talking about that, i hope that— fact we are talking about that, i hope that gives some reassurance over the _ hope that gives some reassurance over the next long weeks that this revolving — over the next long weeks that this revolving door in education is finally— revolving door in education is finally going to stop evolving. a lot of finally going to stop evolving. lot of it is unknown at the moment. just a thought, if you could come about this lost time. what are your members telling you about the damage that has been done, and more importantly, i suppose, that has been done, and more importantly, isuppose, ratherthan talk about the damage, how can that be made up? how can we make sure that students are not harmed long term? t that students are not harmed long term? ~' ., that students are not harmed long term? ~ ., ., term? i think one of the most important _ term? i think one of the most important things _ term? i think one of the most important things is _ term? i think one of the most important things is not i term? i think one of the most important things is not to i term? i think one of the mostj important things is not to talk term? i think one of the most i important things is not to talk in catastrophic terms about all of this _ catastrophic terms about all of this the — catastrophic terms about all of this. the younger the child, in a sense — this. the younger the child, in a sense the _ this. the younger the child, in a sense, the more time they will have to catch _ sense, the more time they will have to catch up — sense, the more time they will have to catch up. but the more also we need _ to catch up. but the more also we need to— to catch up. but the more also we need to devote to building on those habits. _ need to devote to building on those habits, those routines, that maybe they are _ habits, those routines, that maybe they are not getting at the moment. and the _ they are not getting at the moment. and the more we can de—clutter our education _ and the more we can de—clutter our education system so that we get the performance tables and inspectors, and we _ performance tables and inspectors, and we absolutely focus on the things— and we absolutely focus on the things that we know teachers can do best, _ things that we know teachers can do best, assessing what a child needs next and _ best, assessing what a child needs next and then teaching them, that is what our— next and then teaching them, that is what our members want to be able to do. what our members want to be able to do the _ what our members want to be able to do the more — what our members want to be able to do. the more we have clarity around the arrangements for the exams that are not— the arrangements for the exams that are not running in the summer, the more _ are not running in the summer, the more we _ are not running in the summer, the more we can— are not running in the summer, the more we can focus on doing what is right. _ more we can focus on doing what is right. and _ more we can focus on doing what is right. and i— more we can focus on doing what is right, and i think we will get to that point— right, and i think we will get to that point pretty soon.- right, and i think we will get to that point pretty soon. sarah, it is interesting. _ that point pretty soon. sarah, it is interesting. you — that point pretty soon. sarah, it is interesting, you will— that point pretty soon. sarah, it is interesting, you will be _ that point pretty soon. sarah, it is interesting, you will be preparing, you know this prospective date of march the 8th. how will you be reassuring parents and students that it's not going to be just a relentless rush to learn everything that's been missed, but actually, it will be safe and it will still be enjoyable, and it will be worth it? just carrying on with supporting our families in the best way that we can. we communicate really openly with them. they know the ethos of our school, they know that we want to educate them as well as nurture them, we've got 40% of our school still attending at the moment, which is quite a lot, and i think that's just working openly with our community is what is really key. obviously we don't know many details, we will work on things when we can, but i know that all the head teachers in lancashire and across the country will be doing their best and it is the best that can be for all pupils and staff. tt and it is the best that can be for all pupils and staff.— all pupils and staff. it has been lovely talking _ all pupils and staff. it has been lovely talking to _ all pupils and staff. it has been lovely talking to you, _ all pupils and staff. it has been lovely talking to you, sarah i all pupils and staff. it has been| lovely talking to you, sarah and geoff. sarah, ithink lovely talking to you, sarah and geoff. sarah, i think your ads will resonate with so many people. thank you both very much. mike was saying earlier about the challenge of home—schooling. —— your words will resonate. he is learning at all again. it is all a learning curve, different ways of doing things. i was fine with maths, but when it came to all the arty stuff, i would be awful. we all have our strengths and weaknesses, embrace them. is 8.23. -- the and weaknesses, embrace them. is 8.23. —— the time is 8.23. with driving lessons and practical tests cancelled for the forseeable future across the uk due to covid — thousands of learner drivers are now facing the prospect of their theory test certificates — which are valid for two years — expiring before they have the chance to sit their test. between april and september 2019, before the pandemic, 84,000 theory tests expired. during the same period last year, which covers the months of the first lockdown, that rose to 118,000. that's a year—on—year increase of 3a,000 expired theory tests. there's now a call to extend the two—year window by 12 months, and a public petition has gained enough signatures to force a parliamentary debate. let's speak to learner driver rosalina rashidi and her instructorjacqueline dunn. what is your situation? how are you fixed right now? t what is your situation? how are you fixed right now?— what is your situation? how are you fixed right now? i was meant to take m drivina fixed right now? i was meant to take my driving test _ fixed right now? i was meant to take my driving test on _ fixed right now? i was meant to take my driving test on the _ fixed right now? i was meant to take my driving test on the 7th _ fixed right now? i was meant to take my driving test on the 7th of- my driving test on the 7th of january, my theory test expired on the 14th of january, january, my theory test expired on the 14th ofjanuary, but january, my theory test expired on the 14th of january, but we went into lockdown on the fifth, so i must buy a couple of i basically e—mailed the dv essay and asked, can my theory be extended? because it expired, i couldn't take my test due to the pandemic. and they said no, so i have to pay everything again and redo the test, the theory test, before i get to book my driving test, and everything isjust... i don't know how long that is going to take, because it takes quite a long time to book. take, because it takes quite a long time to book-— time to book. rosalina, there are practicalities _ time to book. rosalina, there are practicalities to _ time to book. rosalina, there are practicalities to this _ time to book. rosalina, there are practicalities to this in _ time to book. rosalina, there are practicalities to this in the - time to book. rosalina, there are practicalities to this in the sense l practicalities to this in the sense that, why is it so important that you get your drivers license? basically, i work in tv production, documentaries and factual entertainment, and to work in preproduction on tv, having a driving licence, especially in the early stage of your career, really gives you the edge to whether you get the job or not. so gives you the edge to whether you get thejob or not. so i had to... i mean, after the pandemic, initially when i had to do my driving test, i did it for a job as well, but have to be pandemic, everything has been postponed and delayed, so i have had to do a bit of a diversion. i“m postponed and delayed, so i have had to do a bit of a diversion. i'm so grateful to have a job during the pandemic, but then again, you have to do a bit of forward thinking, then everything goes back to normal, you kind of want to have the fastest possible way to get back into the field you are in before the pandemic happened, and to do that having this come everything is just postponed, so it is really hard. come everything is 'ust postponed, so it is really hard._ so it is really hard. rosalina, for those of us _ so it is really hard. rosalina, for those of us who _ so it is really hard. rosalina, for those of us who have _ so it is really hard. rosalina, for those of us who have not i so it is really hard. rosalina, for those of us who have not taken | so it is really hard. rosalina, for- those of us who have not taken their driving test for a little while, you mention the cost thing. one idea clearly is to extend longer, extending the tenure theory test is valid, but you talk about the u cost there. how much will it cost you to do that again? t there. how much will it cost you to do that again?— do that again? i think it costs about £50. — do that again? i think it costs about £50, so _ do that 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to stay chilly whatever i is good to stay chilly whatever happens. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. bbc london and bbc south east today are joining forces at breakfast to keep you up to date with the latest on the coronavirus in your area. concerns have been raised about the mental health of kent nhs staff working through the pandemic. since the outbreak, pressure on hospital staff has been high. managers say online counselling and mental health services are being offered. advisors at kings college hospital in london says the affects of post traumatic stress could last for years. south east coast ambulance service is to receive support from the military. 36 personnel from the royal logistic corps have been trained. the trust recently collaborated with the fire service in a similar arrangement. a pollution map of london has been has been published. researchers examined noise and green space to rank every street. camden came top. bexley was one of the most unhealthy boroughs to live in. fuel alternatives to oil and electricity is the focus of a new project in sussex. the village of barcombe could become the template for other areas if plans are successful. 600 households are working with the company uk power networks. we want 200 of them to get on—board with the project. we already have 50 of those homes signed up and we will put energy monitors in the home so we can record the use over the winter and we will give that data to the uk power networks and they will use that data to make a plan and plan for the village to come off oil and switch to electricity for heating. a terminally—ill toddler from east london has had her dream to see real animals come true. ava cottle has leukaemia. friends in romford arranged for a number of creatures to visit ava“s home. her mother, cherry, says the visit made her daughter very happy. to see her smiling, it's done what we wanted. it gave her, i don't know, the chance to see some stuff she won't ever get to see again, you know? let's get the weather. a mild and damp start this morning with heavy rain overnight, still a little around this morning but clearing away eastwards and becoming dry, and we will get some breaks in the cloud, one or two sunny spells, the risk of a shower and it is breezy. you will feel the wind along the south coast, but temperatures today are very mild, potentially getting up to 1a celsius. it will stay very mild overnight and another band of rain will sweep through, becoming dry with clear spells through the middle of the night. staying quite breezy, and some showers to follow into friday morning, and the minimum temperature above zero, between seven and nine celsius. there are some showers on friday, but brighter spells with sunny spells in the afternoon, and some uncertainty around the weekend. we are looking at some rain, especially through the morning, bumping into cold air so you might get sleet over higher ground the further north you are. that's all we have time for. i will be back a little after 9am with an update for you, until then, be back a little after 9am with an update foryou, untilthen, goodbye. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. coming up straight after us on bbc one today is morning live — let's see what gethin and the team have in store. thank you very much. coming up on morning live, with fraud now reaching epidemic levels. i'm with rav wilding and he's here to keep you safe from anyone trying to pull the wool over your eyes. yep. the phrase "new year, new me" isn't ringing true for the scammers who are up to their old tricks. they're even taking advantage of our need for the vaccine. they've made half a million pounds from vaccination related scams. but i'm here to make sure they don't get their hands on any more of your cash. trying to make money from the vaccine is the lowest of the low. and while most people can't wait to be vaccinated, not everyone feels that way. so we'll be asking if fake news could be the reason some people are afraid of getting the jab? our roving reporter sabrina grant's been looking into the misinformation and myths, to give you the facts. if you have any thoughts on that or a question for rav send them in to us now morninglive@bbc.co.uk. also coming up, he kept the nation moving during the first lockdown and now body coach joe wicks will be sharing how you can stay motivated and moving — even on those cold winter days. plus, we'll be catching up with kym to get the latest on how she's recovering from her op, and... anton du beke is here with the next part of our strictly fitness regime — and today it's the upper body. come on, guns out, the son is almost out. your shoulders will thank you for this one, believe me. we'll see you at 9.15! the way this works when you presenters show someone doing physical exercise, you cutback presenters show someone doing physical exercise, you cut back to the studio and the two presenters are doing 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and then do the exercise before the end of the _ then do the exercise before the end of the show. so then do the exercise before the end of the show-— of the show. so you will be doing the exercises? _ of the show. so you will be doing the exercises? yes, _ of the show. so you will be doing the exercises? yes, other- of the show. so you will be doing| the exercises? yes, other people will be getting — the exercises? yes, other people will be getting involved _ the exercises? yes, other people will be getting involved as - the exercises? yes, other people will be getting involved as well. i will be getting involved as well. good _ will be getting involved as well. good. she's very good runner. have a lovely show. they are on after us. carroll will have the weather for us and about 15 minutes with a full forecast and mike is going to keep us updated with sport. this week on breakfast we've been paying tribute to the more than 100,000 people that have been tragically lost to covid—19. but for many of those who have survived the virus, the struggle is still far from over. breakfast“s tim muffett has been to meet some of them. once i realised what was happening to me, what i had, i became very, very frightened. they said to me, "you are very, very ill with covid—19." i told my kids i wasn't going to make it. as ali knows, surviving covid is one thing. fully recovering is quite another. i cannot dress myself, i cannot walk up the stairs, i cannot cook. ali spent more than 200 days in hospital last year after being admitted in april. i managed to ring my daughter and i said, "they are going to put me in a coma, tell everyone i love them, and hopefully i will see you on the other side." and obviously, when i woke up, it was three months later. i had lung failure, kidney failure, liverfailure. i was on a dialysis machine, i had another stroke, i had gangrene in my lungs, i had sepsis. it was like watching him in pain take every single breath, and watching somebody go through that, not being able to breathe, almost drowning in their own fluids, and to have to watch that, and know they are going through that every second of the day, it was incredibly hard. and you are not able to work at the moment. how hard is that? very difficult. i come out to loads of bills, we have all written them letters and whatnot, i'm thinking about going bankrupt because i don't have another choice. i cannot afford to pay my bills, i'm not working. i take life day by day, breath by breath, that is the only way to do it. i don't think about the future because i don't know what the future is going to bring. he continued to stay strong, stay strong for us. this was a journey clare thought she would never make. we're going to put you in an induced coma, you've got 50% chance of survival. i thought, "i've just got to come out the other side." and then they got a phone call at home to say i took a turn for the worse, and they give me two hours, and if i didn't improve in that two hours, they were turning the ventilator off. what was it like when you woke up from your coma? when i opened my eyes, i thought i was in space, i didn't know where i was, i was so confused. it's been very difficult. me and my mum are really close. _ and when she first went in, it was a big shock. charlie is one of the country's leading choristers. he had learned a new piece, and when i came home and sat in the chair, the first thing he did was play and sing to me, and it was so emotional. this was the piece which charlie went on to sing in last year's semifinal of the bbc young chorister of the year competition. i always remember it as the first song i sang to my mum after she was in hospital. 84—year—old arthurjacobs was applauded as he left hospital in wirral last april. it was very nice. i am more of a retired person. don't believe it. he loved every minute — don't believe it. he loved every minute of— don't believe it. he loved every minute of it, didn't you? the best present was a chance to meet a new addition to the family, named in his honour. very privileged to meet his great—great—grandson, baby arthur. how are you feeling? loss of vision in one eye. i“v e i've only got sight in one eye. the peripheral vision has decreased a bit. they tell us it is due to the virus. you have eight grandchildren and nine great—grandchildren. how hard it been not being able to see them? all of the grandparents say it, but it is true — it's very hard. we miss them so much, honestly. but we are here. and he's still fighting, so i'm just incredibly proud. my hero. the impact of covid for so many means new challenges and a whole new way of living. tim muffett, bbc news. and we say thank you to ali, claire and arthur and all of their loved ones for giving us a little bit of insight into their lives, because it is difficult, difficult times, but thank you so much for sharing that with us. you look for positives. these are positive stories because they are survivor stories and charlie, beautiful voice and that picture of arthur with great—great—grandson, arthur, that moment, those things absolutely matter. they really matter. let's speak now to two people who have struggled with long covid. doctor claire gerada is a gp and is in london this morning, and professor paul garner is an epidemiologist, good morning to you both. doctor, do you want to tell us how you are at this moment in time?— you want to tell us how you are at this moment in time? yes, but first i 'ust want this moment in time? yes, but first ijust want to _ this moment in time? yes, but first ijust want to say — this moment in time? yes, but first i just want to say what _ this moment in time? yes, but first i just want to say what a _ this moment in time? yes, but first i just want to say what a powerful, l i just want to say what a powerful, emotional peace you have just shown and i think it is a testament not just to those individuals who have survived it but also to the health service that have given them the care in orderfor them to service that have given them the care in order for them to tell their story. my story is nothing like that. i was one of the first to get covid in this country, i got it in early march having come back from new york and it was a pretty awful disease, there is no saying it wasn't, and my main symptom was severe muscle pain to the point that i would have rather cut off my legs than experienced it. as i got better, i did what many people in my position do, i thought i was superhuman and started running and did my usualfive k or 10k and really that's probably the worst thing i could possibly do any semi—back and in retrospect, it has taken about three or four months to really get over that pain and what i did was get myself the most fabulous personal trainer who did the sensible thing of gradually increasing my exercise tolerance, gradually strengthening my muscles, gradually strengthening my muscles, gradually giving me the confidence to go back to what i think i am now, which is normal. it does take time but the piece that you showed, of course, they had a multi—organ failure and this is very, very different from the stories we are hearing about longer covid. theirs was not long covid, it was recovery following multi—organ failure, serious, catastrophic illness with months in intensive care.- months in intensive care. paul, welcome _ months in intensive care. paul, welcome to _ months in intensive care. paul, welcome to the _ months in intensive care. paul, welcome to the programme. i months in intensive care. paul, | welcome to the programme. do months in intensive care. paul, i welcome to the programme. do you want to pick up on your story. as i understand it, you tested positive in march and from that point on, how were you, and how are you now? t was were you, and how are you now? i was extremely unwell, _ were you, and how are you now? i was extremely unwell, initially _ were you, and how are you now? i was extremely unwell, initially and i manage — extremely unwell, initially and i manage myself at home and had these two months _ manage myself at home and had these two months of severe exhaustion and waves _ two months of severe exhaustion and waves of— two months of severe exhaustion and waves of illness. i saw a doctor after _ waves of illness. i saw a doctor after a — waves of illness. i saw a doctor after a couple of months and he said. _ after a couple of months and he said. look. _ after a couple of months and he said, look, ithink after a couple of months and he said, look, i think it is now a postviral_ said, look, i think it is now a postviral situation you are in and he reassured me that my heart and lungs _ he reassured me that my heart and lungs were — he reassured me that my heart and lungs were 0k, he reassured me that my heart and lungs were ok, but there followed another— lungs were ok, but there followed another four months of complete exhaustion, unlike claire, i needed to avoid— exhaustion, unlike claire, i needed to avoid things because if i did, the illness— to avoid things because if i did, the illness would echo back and then i sort _ the illness would echo back and then i sort of— the illness would echo back and then i sort of lapsed into a period of being _ i sort of lapsed into a period of being frightened to go out and being frightened to do anything, really, and thinking that this disease would last forever. luckily, i met someone who had _ last forever. luckily, i met someone who had recovered from mee and they helped _ who had recovered from mee and they helped me _ who had recovered from mee and they helped me think positively about things— helped me think positively about things and gradually i've been recovering, pushing thoughts aside that means i am now back to what i was before — that means i am now back to what i was before after nine months. i�*m was before after nine months. i'm leased was before after nine months. i'm pleased to — was before after nine months. t�*rn pleased to hear that, paul, and the thing you have in common is that you are in a way experts, one a gp, one epidemiologist. i presume you knew a lot about covert —— covid, because you are an expert in the field and thenit you are an expert in the field and then it happens to you.— then it happens to you. yes, you think ou then it happens to you. yes, you think you are _ then it happens to you. yes, you think you are an _ then it happens to you. yes, you think you are an expert - then it happens to you. yes, you think you are an expert but i then it happens to you. yes, you j think you are an expert but when then it happens to you. yes, you i think you are an expert but when it actually— think you are an expert but when it actually happens to you, you are an ordinary— actually happens to you, you are an ordinary patient like everybody else and you _ ordinary patient like everybody else and you have to sit and reflect on what _ and you have to sit and reflect on what is _ and you have to sit and reflect on what is happening to you and it was an extremely frightening illness, but i've — an extremely frightening illness, but i've learnt a lot about my own body _ but i've learnt a lot about my own body and — but i've learnt a lot about my own body and about how to recover, and like claire — body and about how to recover, and like claire, about the importance of gentle _ like claire, about the importance of gentle exercise and positive thinking to take you forward and out of this _ thinking to take you forward and out of this late — thinking to take you forward and out of this. late in the illness, iwas obsessing — of this. late in the illness, iwas obsessing about my symptoms the whole _ obsessing about my symptoms the whole time and the facebook groups sometimes don't help much because you just _ sometimes don't help much because you just keep going back to how ill you just keep going back to how ill you are _ you just keep going back to how ill you are and — you just keep going back to how ill you are and you need to try, and the symptoms— you are and you need to try, and the symptoms are real, but you need to use techniques to move you forward positively— use techniques to move you forward positively into the new year. what is interesting. _ positively into the new year. what is interesting, listening _ positively into the new year. kwngt is interesting, listening to you is that you are both very fit and you enjoy exercise and it is a real psychological shock at being told as someone who exercises regularly, don't do it, because you will damage yourself, and then there is the fear of getting back out there in case you get worse. what would you say, claire, because there will be people, hundreds of thousands, who are in this position and are scared now? what would you say in terms of just living with the after effects of this? . just living with the after effects of this? , ., ., , of this? there is nothing that is made better— of this? there is nothing that is made better through _ of this? there is nothing that is made better through exercise. | made better through exercise. nothing. no matter what age or condition, exercise will always improve it, but in moderation. because i was fit, i have run marathons and would regularly run 10k, i thought having had the illness, i've had it, so let's go back to normal and i tried to run and i did run but it set me back months because my muscles were not prepared for it. i don't know what the pathophysiology is, but i had problems with my muscles, so what you have to do is that it is in moderation and it is gradual recovery. as paul said, it's gradual and one step at a time to use the cliche, it's not going from nothing to how you were before butjust gradually increasing. as i said, i've bought myself a personal trainer and he is absolutely lovely and he inspires me and i noticed that the training on the bbc, just don't push yourself too much, it's not a marathon you have to enter, it's just gentle exercise and, yes, paul is inspiring, get those thoughts and try to change them around into what you can do rather than what you can't.— than what you can't. good advice. thank you — than what you can't. good advice. thank you both, _ than what you can't. good advice. thank you both, and _ than what you can't. good advice. thank you both, and do _ than what you can't. good advice. thank you both, and do take i than what you can't. good advice. | thank you both, and do take care. interesting how you have two experts in a medical and scientific way and both of them saying that the approach mentally is so important as well, taking the positive thought process. give yourself time to recover. one way that those living with the after effects of covid may be able to improve their health is through the power of music. that's because there's evidence that singing might help patients to recover from the virus. now the nhs has teamed up with the english national opera to offer a singing therapy programme to up to a thousand people affected by long covid. david sillito has been listening in. sing it with me. when it comes to macro zoom —— zoo meetings, this is a stress free as it gets. a lullaby, some singing and a lesson. i am breathin: some singing and a lesson. i am breathing in- _ some singing and a lesson. i am breathing in. a _ some singing and a lesson. i am breathing in. a lesson _ some singing and a lesson. i am breathing in. a lesson in - some singing and a lesson. i am i breathing in. a lesson in breathing. i am breathing _ breathing in. a lesson in breathing. i am breathing out _ breathing in. a lesson in breathing. i am breathing out ten. _ breathing in. a lesson in breathing. i am breathing out ten. that - breathing in. a lesson in breathing. i am breathing out ten. that was i breathing in. a lesson in breathing. l i am breathing out ten. that was the best thing that _ i am breathing out ten. that was the best thing that happened _ i am breathing out ten. that was the best thing that happened to - i am breathing out ten. that was the best thing that happened to me - i am breathing out ten. that was the | best thing that happened to me after covid, _ best thing that happened to me after covid, it_ best thing that happened to me after covid, it was a breath of fresh air. i covid, it was a breath of fresh air. lam _ covid, it was a breath of fresh air. i am breathing covid, it was a breath of fresh air. lam breathing in covid, it was a breath of fresh air. i am breathing in now.— i am breathing in now. finally i found somebody _ i am breathing in now. finally i found somebody who - i am breathing in now. finally i l found somebody who understood i am breathing in now. finally i - found somebody who understood a little bit _ found somebody who understood a little bit about _ found somebody who understood a little bit about where _ found somebody who understood a little bit about where i— found somebody who understood a little bit about where i was - found somebody who understood a little bit about where i was coming| little bit about where i was coming from and _ little bit about where i was coming from and the — little bit about where i was coming from and the shoes _ little bit about where i was coming from and the shoes i— little bit about where i was coming from and the shoes i was- little bit about where i was coming from and the shoes i was having. i little bit about where i was coming. from and the shoes i was having. find from and the shoes i was having. and this is what — from and the shoes i was having. and this is what it — from and the shoes i was having. and this is what it is _ from and the shoes i was having. this is what it is all about, from and the shoes i was having. in} this is what it is all about, these vocal exercises i am being given to do our part of the programme, and taking me through my paces is susie from english national opera who has a vital area of expertise. breathing.— a vital area of expertise. breathing. a vital area of expertise. breathinu. h ., ., , breathing. it's one of the things that's really _ breathing. it's one of the things that's really hard _ breathing. it's one of the things that's really hard if— breathing. it's one of the things that's really hard if you - breathing. it's one of the things that's really hard if you have - breathing. it's one of the things l that's really hard if you have been unwell for a long time, it's that potentially you have never been particularly conscious of how you breathe when you were well and then it's been a struggle, so getting back to what normal feels like when it isn't something that you are terribly conscious of remembering is already difficult. this terribly conscious of remembering is already difficult.— already difficult. this was richard back in march _ already difficult. this was richard back in march in _ already difficult. this was richard back in march in intensive - already difficult. this was richard back in march in intensive care. l back in march in intensive care. obviously the worst 36 hours of my life, obviously the worst 36 hours of my life. didn't— obviously the worst 36 hours of my life, didn't know— obviously the worst 36 hours of my life, didn't know where _ obviously the worst 36 hours of my life, didn't know where i— obviously the worst 36 hours of my life, didn't know where i was- obviously the worst 36 hours of my life, didn't know where i was in- obviously the worst 36 hours of myl life, didn't know where i was in was having _ life, didn't know where i was in was having huge — life, didn't know where i was in was having huge problems _ life, didn't know where i was in was having huge problems with - having huge problems with hallucinations, _ having huge problems with hallucinations, sweats, - having huge problems with . hallucinations, sweats, aching limbs — hallucinations, sweats, aching limbs. �* , . , limbs. and since then it has been touch. limbs. and since then it has been tough- i've _ limbs. and since then it has been tough. i've suffered _ limbs. and since then it has been tough. i've suffered from - limbs. and since then it has been tough. i've suffered from chronic| tough. i've suffered from chronic fatiuue, tough. i've suffered from chronic fatigue. got _ tough. i've suffered from chronic fatigue, got completely - tough. i've suffered from chronic fatigue, got completely wiped i tough. i've suffered from chronic. fatigue, got completely wiped out. pretty— fatigue, got completely wiped out. pretty good — fatigue, got completely wiped out. pretty good in _ fatigue, got completely wiped out. pretty good in the _ fatigue, got completely wiped out. pretty good in the mornings, - fatigue, got completely wiped out. pretty good in the mornings, ok. fatigue, got completely wiped out. pretty good in the mornings, ok in the evenings — pretty good in the mornings, ok in the evenings in _ pretty good in the mornings, ok in the evenings in the _ pretty good in the mornings, ok in the evenings in the afternoon - pretty good in the mornings, ok in the evenings in the afternoon is i the evenings in the afternoon is bearable — the evenings in the afternoon is bearable. it's _ the evenings in the afternoon is bearable. �* , . the evenings in the afternoon is bearable. �*, ., ., ., bearable. it's a familiar story. sheba was — bearable. it's a familiar story. sheba was hospitalised - bearable. it's a familiar story. sheba was hospitalised in - bearable. it's a familiar story. i sheba was hospitalised in march bearable. it's a familiar story. - sheba was hospitalised in march and has since spent months isolated, anxious and breathless. could you have ever imagined that essentially singing teaching could have helped? not in my wildest dreams, not at all. . , , i not in my wildest dreams, not at all-_ i would - not in my wildest dreams, not at i all._ i would suddenly all. has it helped? i would suddenly wake u- all. has it helped? i would suddenly wake up thinking — all. has it helped? i would suddenly wake up thinking i'm _ all. has it helped? i would suddenly wake up thinking i'm not _ all. has it helped? i would suddenly wake up thinking i'm not getting i wake up thinking i'm not getting enough — wake up thinking i'm not getting enough oxygen in my lungs and i didn't— enough oxygen in my lungs and i didn't know what to do about it. should — didn't know what to do about it. should i— didn't know what to do about it. should i call 111? should i call an ambulance? am i going to have a heart _ ambulance? am i going to have a heart attack? that kind of thing, but this— heart attack? that kind of thing, but this connected me with my flock of fellow— but this connected me with my flock of fellow sufferers but in the most positive _ of fellow sufferers but in the most positive and musical way. this pilot programme — positive and musical way. this pilot programme is _ positive and musical way. this pilot programme is now _ positive and musical way. this pilot programme is now being _ positive and musical way. this pilot programme is now being extended | positive and musical way. this pilot l programme is now being extended to another 1000 long covid patients. the evidence so far suggest it is helping people to recoverfaster. with use of the lullabies that calm the patients and use of the exercises that they do in between the classes, we can see that people's breathing passions are better, they are breathing deeper, using their diaphragms more and they are, —— breathing patterns. absolutely, on the evidence we have so far, we feel this is of benefit to people. so far, we feel this is of benefit to people-— so far, we feel this is of benefit to --eole. �* fl . . ., to people. but it's also about more than breathing. _ to people. but it's also about more than breathing. music— to people. but it's also about more than breathing. music can - to people. but it's also about more than breathing. music can be i to people. but it's also about more i than breathing. music can be healing in many ways. i do than breathing. music can be healing in many ways-— in many ways. i do like to revisit the summertime _ in many ways. i do like to revisit the summertime song. - in many ways. i do like to revisit the summertime song. i - in many ways. i do like to revisit the summertime song. i fell i in many ways. i do like to revisit the summertime song. i fell in i in many ways. i do like to revisit i the summertime song. i fell in love with as _ the summertime song. i fell in love with as soon — the summertime song. i fell in love with as soon as susie made us sing them _ with as soon as susie made us sing them it— with as soon as susie made us sing them. it reminds you that bad times do not _ them. it reminds you that bad times do not last— them. it reminds you that bad times do not last for ever and there is light— do not last for ever and there is light at— do not last for ever and there is light at the end of the tunnel. isn't that nice? a moment of serenity. carroll, do you want to pick up on that? do you want a singalong? noi no i definitely do not want to sing along and the weather is not very like summer, although some of us will have temperatures way above where they should be at this stage in january. what we where they should be at this stage injanuary. what we have is a band of rain until snow continuing to move north east, so ahead of it, we are still in the cold air and will be for the next few days but you can see all of the mild air is pumping in from the atlantic and in between we have all of this rain and the hill snow. the snow level rise across the north pennines as we go through the day and we will see more snow falling across the southern uplands, the highlands and the grampians, and significant amounts above 200 metres. behind all of that, we see brighter skies return and some rain coming in from the south—west and the band of snow continues to migrate north across scotland so by tomorrow morning, above 200 metres in the highlands and grampians we could have as much as 20 centimetres and by the end of the afternoon on higher ground, above 200 metres in the pennines, we could have a further 15 centimetres. it's going to be cold in the north, but for northern ireland, much of england and wales, look at this, 11 up england and wales, look at this, 11 up to 1a degrees, way above average and in london at this time it should be around seven or 8 degrees. tonight a band of rain and snow continues to push north across scotland and the next batch of rain comes hot on its heels and the two merge. at the same time we have showers and some of them heavy and thundery moving in across western england and also wales. once again, for northern ireland, england and wales, mild but cold. and, especially in sheltered glens and temperatures will hover around freezing, so there is the risk of ice and some frost. tomorrow the two merged fronts start to slowly sink southwards and the showers in the south drift eastwards, most of them petering out, so it will brighten up and we will see sunshine following on into scotland and northern ireland with wintry showers in the far north, but still cold and that cold air slipping further south but still mild in the far south itself. saturday's forecast has changed from what we have been telling you through the course of the morning, so still giving it a bit of a headache in that the rain coming in, just how far north it will go, will have a bearing on what happens, so a lot of dry weather and cold air sinking south and we could see some rain for a sinking south and we could see some rainfora time sinking south and we could see some rain for a time across parts of northern ireland as well as snow, some snow across north—western —, wales, into the midlands, possibly london and the south—east and in the welsh hills we could have significant snow and even on lower levels across the midlands, something worth bearing in mind. but as i say, still uncertainty about that, so do keep tuned to the forecast. we will be glued to you. carol. that's what we are.— that's what we are. perish the thou . ht. that's what we are. perish the thought- you _ that's what we are. perish the thought. you enjoy _ that's what we are. perish the thought. you enjoy it - that's what we are. perish the thought. you enjoy it one i that's what we are. perish the j thought. you enjoy it one day, that's what we are. perish the l thought. you enjoy it one day, i thought. you en'oy it one day, i will be by _ thought. you en'oy it one day, i will be by your— thought. you enjoy it one day, i will be by your like _ thought. you enjoy it one day, i will be by your like a _ thought. you enjoy it one day, i will be by your like a shadow. . thought. you enjoy it one day, i i will be by your like a shadow. take care. see you soon. helen glover only took up rowing in her 20s — but she went on to make history by winning two olympic gold medals with her partner heather stanning. since then she's been keeping busy with her three young children. now she's decided she wants another shot at the record books — and is hoping to get back in her boat for tokyo 2021. sally's been catching up with her. helen glover, it is wonderful to see you in your natural habitat by the water. yes, that's dedication, taking you to the river side with me. are you trying to tell us something? i am dropping a big hint with the rowing machine behind me and being by the water. i have thought long and hard about a return to rowing, with the goal being to make the tokyo olympics. they are fearless. they are without equal. they are history makers. great britain's glover and stanning defend their olympic title and they have done it in such style. are you mad? i think quite possibly. world champions again. 28 in a row for helen glover and heather stanning. we should explain to people at home who may be don't know that you have three very young children. tell me their ages at the moment and what life is like for you. logan is two and a half and kit and beau the twins have turned one. that on its own is a huge dedication, trying to be the best mum i can be. and it's all a bit of a balancing act. we have all had a lot of time over the last year or so to think things through and maybe make big life decisions and change things in our lives. what on earth made you want to get back in a boat as a mother of three very young children and put yourself through this once again? steve did come to me and say that most people's lockdown project was learning to crochet and mine was getting to the olympics, but i think what happened was i was getting my fitness back from having the twins during the first lockdown, so spending a lot more time than i anticipated, on the rowing machine. and i started to see scores are used to get when i was on the rowing team and by summer the scores had got good and i contacted the rowing team and said i am just putting it out there that i'm thinking about whether i could return. i kind of expected things to change more and for us to go and see family and friends but we weren't, we were still at home and i was still training and it got to christmas—time and i thought, i have to follow through with this and turn up for a trial. there was never a day when i woke up and thought, this is it, this will happen, ijust kind of kept going. how much care do you have to take in changing the way you train and what is the difference now? i'm still discovering now because this path is untrodden and i am going through it for the first time and having to learn the hard way a little bit. for me, one of the big things is lack of sleep. things like low iron. i am still breast—feeding the twins and it takes a lot out of you and they are things i am learning as i am going that, actually, if i am feeding the twins, doing three hard sessions a day and not getting much sleep, that's not a formula for carrying on very long but it's all around the baby schedule. when i thought about coming back the most important thing to me was that the children would always come first. it's really different. i lived as an olympian for ten years and rowing was ahead of everything, ahead of almost every relationship, every big event, every life event for friends and family and coming back this time, ijust know that can't be the case. it never will be. i am a mum and if i everfeel like rowing is taking me away from them too much or taking away any of my mental or physical energy from them, then i would step back from rowing, but right now it is working quite well and working in a way that i know will ramp up in the next few months. i know if i make the team for tokyo there will be a few sacrifices to come, but i know i want to never sacrifice the quality family time. how much does it help you to know that, actually, the tokyo olympics it's not that far away? i don't think i would have thought about going back if it was a project that was looking at three or four years. it's going to come round really quickly and that also makes it way harder. i've clearly got to get loads of fitness in a really short period of time and catch up with the girls who have been training for five years who are phenomenal and be an asset to the team. i really want to be an asset to the team. it is a big ask, but that is what makes it exciting, the fact it is so close. do you have that dream? the podium, the moment? is that in your head? before london and before rio it was gold or nothing, it felt like the most important thing in the well being on top of that podium and this time round i can honestly say that my big picture is very, very different. i am a mum and we are living in a pandemic and we have all of these things that daily and constantly remind me that sport is not the most important thing. it's a real privilege to get to do and it's exciting and i love it, but it's not part of the big picture that's going on right now, so to be able to have the opportunity to get on the plane to tokyo to be the first mother to step into a boat for gb and to represent, i would feel so honoured, and for me that would be a huge part of the achievement. of course, if i get there and i race, i will be wanting to get the best result i can, but success does look different and when i look at my little girl, i think, i want to show you, physically show you, that you can go and be and do what you want to do and that really inspires me, probably more than i was inspired for that gold medal in london and rio. it is quite a story and we got a glimpse behind the scenes at home when we did the lockdown life with her. she is brilliant. you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8.59. this is bbc news with the latest headlines: scientists tracking coronavirus infection rates in england say they're concerned the virus is not slowing fast enough — with only a slight 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