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ambassador bolton. september 1st, vice president pence in warsaw and on september 5th, he met with senator ron johnson, senator chris murphy and in none of these meetings did he raise any concern about a linkage between security assistance and investigations. in particular, the september 5th meeting with senator johnson and senator murphy is notable because they are not part of the trump administration and he could be candid with them. what did occur during those 55 days or historic efforts by ukraine of parliament to implement anticorruption reform. vice president pence had pressed president zelensky about these reforms during their september 1st meeting. in their deposition, ambassador taylor lau did his rapid reforms and national security council official morrison testified that during the meeting that he noted

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for the vice president s participation in the inauguration. dr. hill testified that she had no knowledge the vice president was directed not to attend. on may 16th, the outgoing ukrainian parliament scheduled the inauguration for may 20th and only four days later, may 20th was not one of the three days that vice president pence s office had provided for his availability. williams testified that there is early date surprise the vice president s office because we weren t expecting the ukrainians to look at their time frame. george kent at the state department said the short notice from the ukrainians force the state department to scramble to find a u.s. official to be the delegation. finally settling on secretary of energy rick perry. on may 20th of the date of president zelensky s inauguration, vice president pence was in jacksonville, florida, for an event promoting usmca.

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finally the third time that president trump invited zelensky again to meet without any preconditions was during the july 25th phone call. although some time passed between may 2019 when the president formally invited zelensky to meet on september 25th when the presidents met, the evidence does not show that the ukrainian government felt additional pressure due to this delay. to the contrary, ambassador volker testified that the ukrainian regime felt pretty good about its relationship with the trump administration in this period. during those four months, senior ukrainian government officials had at least nine meetings or phone calls with president trum president trump, vice president pence, secretary pompeo, national security advisor bolton, and u.s. ambassadors. the evidence does not support a conclusion that president trump conditioned of meeting with president zelensky on

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enclosing the call, president trump told senator johnson that we are reviewing it now referring to the security assistance and guess what? you will probably like my final decision, he told that to senator johnson on august 31st. this statement strongly suggest that that president trump was already leaning toward lifting the aid. separately, on september 9th, president trump spoke by phone with ambassador sondland. ambassador sondland asked the president what do you want from ukraine? the president respond i want nothing, i want no quid pro quo, i want zelensky to do the right thing. in addition, senior ukrainian government officials denied any awareness of the language between u.s. security assistance and investigations. these denials are persuasive because if there was an orchestrated scheme to pressure ukraine by withholding security assistance, one would think the pause on security assistance would have been clearly communicated to the ukrainians.

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start with the best direct evidence of any potential quid pro quo or impeachable scheme. this is president trump s phone call with zelensky for which the national security council and the white house situation room staff prepare to call summary. according to testimony from tim morrison, the summary was accurate and complete. lieutenant colonel alexander vindman testified that any omissions in the summary were not significant and that editing was not done maliciously. president trump has declassified and released the call summaries of the american people can review it and assess it for themselves. i will make a few points that seem to have gone under noticed. the call summary reflects absolutely no pressure or conditionality,

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