to ukraine. beyond a call summary, the next best piece of evidence are the statements from the two participants on the call. president zelensky has said he felt no pressure on the call. on september 25th at the united nations, he said we had, i think i m a good phone call. was normal. nobody push me. on october 26, president zelensky said i was never pressured, and there were no conditions being imposed. four days later on october 10th, president zelensky said again there was nothing wrong with the call. no blackmail. this is not corruption. was just a call. and just recently in time magazine, president zelensky said never talk to the president from a position of a quid pro quo.
does the evidence prove that president trump was a threat to our elections? yes, it did, mr. chairman. finding in fact eight says based on the revelation of his actions, president trump publicly and repeatedly persisted in urging foreign investments foreign governments including ukraine and china to investigate his political opponent. his continued solicitation of foreign interference in the u.s. election presents a clear and present danger that the president will continue to use the power of his office for his political gain, i would add in the next election. i yelled to my counsel or additional questioning. thank you, mr. chairman. as an experienced investigator, would you agree that relevant bearing on the state of mind that may help explain the president s actions?
if president trump truly sought to remove as part of a nefarious plan, he certainly would not have replaced her with someone of the likes of ambassador bill taylor. second, the three u.s. officials who comprise the so-called shadow foreign policy apparatus, ambassador volker, sondland, and secretary perry can hardly be called irregular and certainly not outlandish. all of her senior u.s. officials with official interest in ukraine policy. the three kept the state department and the nsc informed of their activities. finally, there is evidence that mayor giuliani did not speak on behalf of the president according to a new story on november 22nd, asked him to connect him to mayor giuliani because the team was surprised by the mayors negative comments about ukraine. they wanted to change his mind. both ambassador volker in his
state your point of order. there is no rule nor president for anybody being a witness. the point of order is he is inappropriate to be up here asking questions. that is not a point of order, he is here in accordance with the role. how much money do you have to give? the gentleman will not cast aspersions on members of the staff of the committee. mr. burke has the time. mr. chairman, point of order. mr. burke has the time. point of order. you have to recognize a point of order. the gentleman will state a point of order. this gentleman at sell is presenting his opinion as a witness, he is opposed to present the material facts and not to appear for his opinions, is that right or not?
ukrainian officials to some of these ukrainian politicians remained in government when president zelensky took over. witnesses testified these ukrainian efforts in 2016 colored how president trump viewed ukraine. it is also important to note that president zelensky was a relatively unknown quantity for u.s. policymakers. ambassador yovanovitch called him an untried politician. dr. hale testified there were concerns within the national security council about the relationship with a controversial oligarch in ukraine. although president zelinski ran on a reform platform, president president zelensky appointed him as a lawyer. they both noted the disappointment raise concerns. these facts are important in