but the thing we also have to remember about what joe biden is doing here, if you re a vice president in a second term and you re not talking about possibly running for president, then you re basically irrelevant. so there s some strategy here to keep him in the spotlight. he has been especially effective, has he not, jeremy, working with congress? well, he s certainly been barack obama s dealmaker on capitol hill. not this year. not that there are any yeah. [ laughter ] and the last big won he attempted to negotiate over gun control, of course, fell apart. but certainly he has played that role in the past. and has been pretty effective. he s been the guy that s actually gone there, let s put it that way. the main player for the administration in ukraine, talked to yanukovych nine times in three months. good point. maybe he can find him now. or get congress to disappear. that would be better. all right. well, we ve definitely squeezed that one for what it s wo
want it. anyone seeing what i do, julie? sure. the thing we have too remember about what joe biden is doing here, if you re a vice president in a second term and you re not possibly talking about running for president, then you re basically irrelevant. there s some strategy to keep him in the spotlight. he has been effective, hasn t he been, working with congress in. he s certainly been the president s deal maker. and the last big one that he attempted to negotiate over gun control, of course, fell apart. but certainly he has played that role in the past and has been pretty effective. he s been the guy that s actually gone there, let s put it that way. he s man the main player on ukraine, talked to yanukovych nine times.