even on this issue of security clearances, for example. this is not the deep state conspiring against president trump and his family. this is his chief of staff, john kelly, writing contemporaneous memos citing that he didn t believe jared kushner didn t meet the criteria for one. the oversights in policy decisions as well. the child separation policy. you have secretary nielsen saying we don t lock kids in cages, despite all visual evidence that they do lock kids in cages. their efforts to cut back national monuments. it will happen on so many levels. last question to you about bob mueller s report. fascination wit, expectation for it continues. there s a piece in the new york
so he said, i always cooperate. that s laughable on its face. i think one of the things we re going to try to see democrats draw out is the way normal processes have been avert bid this whi averted by this white house. if democrats are smart, they will try to have it come to a head in september, october, november of 2020. there will be some coordination between these organizations and then the democratic campaign, which will give whoever the democratic nominee is, a very fruitful issue to run on. if you have the president s own chief of staff and his own white house counsel writing contemporaneous memos saying this is upsetting or this is something the president is doing that s not right, it takes away the argument that it s all political, that democrats are only worried about this because it s a political hit on the president. you have the president s inner circle concerned about what he was doing about security clearances and saying this is potentially a national security threat
concern about the extent of foreign contact by jared kushner and by his involvement with his family business, his real estate business. by may, the president, you know, the white house counsel had at that point written a memo expressing concerns about what was going on, and he had said that he did not think that there should be a clearance given, but the president ordered john kelly to give one. the reason we know this is john kelly wrote that into a memo that he wrote to be filed at the white house. the fact that john kelly wrote a contemporaneous memo to be filed, what does that say? is that a normal thing to do? i think that, look, what happens with personnel files and matters i think is beyond my level of expertise, but i do know that writing contemporaneous memos and taking extensive notes about what is going on and interactions with donald trump has become
the reason we know this is john kelly wrote that into a memo that he wrote to be filed at the white house. the fact that john kelly wrote a contemporaneous memo to be filed, what does that say? is that a normal thing to do? i think that, look, what happens with personnel files and matters i think is beyond my level of expertise, but i do know that writing contemporaneous memos and taking extensive notes about what is going on and interactions with donald trump has become something we ve seen time and time again. there is a reason that michael cohen had tapes, or had a tape of himself and the president, you know, in my estimation, just from watching this over time, and it s because people have gotten used to the president saying that events that happened didn t happen. and so i think that john kelly wanted documentation of how this was done, and this has become more of an issue, anderson, because of the timing, because the democratic controlled house already was planning on looking