so he said, i always cooperate. that's laughable on its face. >> i think one of the things we're going to try to see democrats draw out is the way normal processes have been avert bid this whi averted by this white house. if democrats are smart, they will try to have it come to a head in september, october, november of 2020. there will be some coordination between these organizations and then the democratic campaign, which will give whoever the democratic nominee is, a very fruitful issue to run on. >> if you have the president's own chief of staff and his own white house counsel writing contemporaneous memos saying this is upsetting or this is something the president is doing that's not right, it takes away the argument that it's all political, that democrats are only worried about this because it's a political hit on the president. you have the president's inner circle concerned about what he was doing about security clearances and saying this is potentially a national security threat with the way the