the reason we know this is john kelly wrote that into a memo that he wrote to be filed at the white house. >> the fact that john kelly wrote a contemporaneous memo to be filed, what does that say? is that a normal thing to do? >> i think that, look, what happens with personnel files and matters i think is beyond my level of expertise, but i do know that writing contemporaneous memos and taking extensive notes about what is going on and interactions with donald trump has become something we've seen time and time again. there is a reason that michael cohen had tapes, or had a tape of himself and the president, you know, in my estimation, just from watching this over time, and it's because people have gotten used to the president saying that events that happened didn't happen. and so i think that john kelly wanted documentation of how this was done, and this has become more of an issue, anderson, because of the timing, because the democratic controlled house already was planning on looking