body. that tied it to caylee, very, very strongly. that is going to be dispositive of the case in all likelihood. martha: great to speak with you. stand by. i want too remind all of our viewers at home that the verdict has come in. we are waiting for it to be announced. that will happen within 30 minutes from now. there is just a process of basically getting everyone together, getting the jury together. they are obviously all together and have been for 33 days in the course of this case, but everybody, the family, those who want to be there to hear this verdict, into that courtroom. so casey anthony is now sitting in an ante room in the courthouse. she knows that the jury has now decided whether or not she will face the death penalty, whether or not she is guilty of killing her 2-year-old child and lying about it for 31 days. she knows they have reached a decision and her life is in the balance. hard to imagine what is going through their minds and also
always struck in this story by the missing father, you know? i mean, who is this child s father? the one element in this poor little baby s life that we will never know is who was the father of this little girl? judge napolitano, one of the questions that s been raised here is whether or not judge belle vin perry at this point, would he have been told by a court officer what the verdict is? does he know? you know, that s a very good question. in some states it s impermissible for court officers to tell anyone, even the judge. in other states the judges want to know what the verdict is, they want to see it in writing to make sure it is announced to the world correctly because sometimes the people doing the announcement in the courtroom are not familiar with this. my guess is he does know, he has his own copy, he ll read it silently to himself as the clerk reads it aloud for all of us to hear. martha: you look at casey anthony, back to the panel now.
we ll stretch your loan over 15 years if it s a ten year. i don t know the answer to the question. martha: it would make sense. it would be in the better interest of the banks to say, let s do a deal, you can afford x, pay us x. martha: that s what they did in the 80s last time around. i can t understand why it s not happening this time around. i don t know why, martha. martha: we have to figure that out. we ll talk about that next time. thank you, sir as always. this story has clearly got the attention of this nation right now. and right now at this moment behind closed doors there is a jury of 12 men and women who are continuing to debate what they have now been listening to for weeks. they are trying to decide the fate of casey anthony. this is a live look right now at where the jury will speak to the press. this is an even usual sort of set up here. after they have reached this verdict they will file inch know the room and sit this those chairs and tell us how they reached th
until it s over, and there s going to be civil litigation and all the rest of it, but for now this is unprecedented. martha: all right. geraldo, stay with us. i just want to let everyone at home know we re about to hear from the jury. that room we showed you before they will file into, and as the judge pointed out, they can talk or not talk, but we re going to hear from the jury moments from now. i want to go to the panel and bring randy and arthur back in because someone else who felt dissatisfied, it seemed clear today, was george anthony and cindy anthony. amazing reaction from the parents. you see all these hugs all around the defense table, but the parents of casey anthony looked shocked in the back of that courtroom, then they got up, and they left the room because this opens the door to everybody who s been watching this case thinking that, well, maybe george anthony had something to do with it afterall? let s just take it one step further, martha. why wouldn t they want to
expected that hometown, inner city jury to acquit him because johnnie cochran showed the racial divide in los angeles, and he rode his train right through it. this was not a hometown jury. this was a jury who we felt was as hostile to this defendant as the tv-viewing audience. but i m telling you, this is something that i never expected. am i happy about it? no. because i think she has escaped bearing some responsibility. but why i am happy as an attorney is that there were many, many reversible errors committed. they threw everything at this defendant that they could. they spent millions, and they did not make this stick. martha: geraldo casey anthony is on the verge of being a free woman. martha: i m so taken with what you re seeing and also with the images we re watching on our screen right now. because casey anthony is giggling like a schoolgirl. she s laughing, she s happy, she s smiling, and i can t get this image of a child in a bag