when they are trying to reenact based on what they heard in evidence what happened in this situation. but that deliberate act, martha, doesn t need to be more than one act for the aggravated child abuse. if indeed there were three pieces of duct tape and that ended up causing her death that is a special finding under florida law that makes it felony murder and makes it murder one. we can get rid of premeditation, we can talk about aggravated child abuse, it brings this jury to the same point and remember judge belvin perry was very strong in the courtroom when he said you must convict at the highest charge of which there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. we are a country of laws and we must follow the laws. his message to that jury was if the evidence is there i don t want to hear any sympathy, i don t want to hear that, you know, you re not sure about whether or not you should sit in judgment you ve got a job to do. and i guarantee you when this
that somebody left by the roadside who has received absolutely no justice at all today. we will never know. somebody put that child in a bag and left her in the woods. and we re getting hugs and cheers and everyone s delighted all around and big joy, smiling faces. and this child is gone from the face of this earth after only two years, you know, of life. and everybody, you know, it s a happy, happy moment here. casey anthony s smiling and laughing and hugging, and it s bizarre to me. reporter: i ve got five of my own, martha, as you know. the last three of them girls. i looked at caylee marie s picture can and those videos, and i feel as you do that the child has not received justice. but that jury rightfully said, well, wait a second, why were they searching there in the same exact spot where they found the body a month later? the jury is looking at odor evidence? did they ever admit that odor
table having conversations with herself, her mouth moving a little, eyebrows going up and down as if she s contemplating, you know, whether this bit of evidence or that bit of evidence went for her or against her. but now the die is cast. now the verdict has been rendered, and the fact that it was nine hours but it s not really nine hours. first they ve got to get into the deliberation room, then they pick a foreman, then they did, you know, i think the bare minimum in terms of reviewing the evidence, and, man, the first second they could they announced that they are ready. and they are definitely ready. they ve been in prison themselves in many ways, this jury. martha: yeah. geraldo, i thank you. and we re waiting, as soon as the audio opens up from this courtroom, i promise we will take you in there live. casey anthony, as you can see on the right-hand side of your screen, has been biting her nails and looking down. one can only imagine what this is like for her and what this exper
when she went through the final closing argument. it s a question of whether it stuck with the jury or not. martha: i was thinking about the whole issue of the trunk, because so much time was spent on whether there was a smell in the trunk, whether there was any decomposition fluid in that trunk. and in many ways if you take the trunk out of the picture, you know, and you have the chloroform search, and you have the body that was found, you could, you know, draw a line through several of those events that would also, might for many people vote to a guilty verdict in casey anthony s case. but the trunk may end up being sort of where a lot of these people are making their decisions about what happened here. i completely agree with you on that as well. to me the trunk was the most devastating, or some of the most devastating evidence against casey, to have various police officers, two canine dogs, the expert, the best expert on dee dee composition, they all said it smelled like a decomp
statement that she was responsible in some manner for caylee s death. it was a matter of determining, okay, what level of responsibility. i don t think they are coming back with a murder one. i have maintained that they were going to come back with aggravated manslaughter, however i think in light of linda drane burdick s closing argument and the way she ended with the tattoo and going through the behavior, the difference really goes to what you do with the body in terms of killing won someone. what i think the jury is going to do here is take the depraved indifference from the perspective of what she did with the body afterwards, dumping it in the swamp, and taking that depravity back in even though they shouldn t and they will convict her of murder 2, that will be their compromise verdict. martha: here would be the aggravated child abuse, i ve got to tell you randy, i do disagree with you. you always do. i am surprised with how fast the jury came back. all i will say about what