warrants and now a threat of the word indictment. interesting. big picture here, rick, how do you president trump is going to react to all of this especially considering he falsely accused the former president of wiretapping him before? i think he s probably going to say see, they were wiretapping me, see, they did have potential wire taps in trump tower. but there s no evidence they were wiretapping him. there s some indirect vindication of what he said earlier. look, this is a serious matter and something that the president and his team should be concerned about. i mean, depending on what the nature of this potential indictment is, whether it implicates manafort in some activity in the campaign or something outside the campaign, i don t think we know that yet, but it certainly has to be a concern to them. and from my perspective, you know, best left alone and focused on the things at hand, which is what he s doing at the
conversations between the president and paul manafort even earlier this year in the same time frame that the fbi was listening to manafort s phones. so it s certainly possible that those conversations were collected, were swept up. so was the president right that he was wire-tapped? well, that certainly raises the question. the justice department has publicly denied the president s own lines were wire-tapped. as you ll recall he tweeted out months ago that president obama had his wires tamd. the justice department has come out and said that s not true. but what is possible, don, is that he was picked up on the manafort surveillance and we should note that manafort does have a residence in trump tower. but it is not clear if the fbi did surveillance on him there, don. great reporting. thank you very much, pamela brown. i appreciate that. i want to bring in now cnn legal analyst laura coats, former presidential candidate rick santorum and national security and legal analyst susan h
letter it s very likely they will indict him unless he decides to cooperate. go ahead. yeah. i have a very similar answer. what i would say is that this indicates both to me. it certainly indicates, as john said, that mueller is intending to indict manafort, but the fact that he is telegraphing that to manafort in an aggressive way is something that is fairly commonly done in my experience when you are trying to flip someone. and so really one thing that i took from that new york times story is that mueller is trying very aggressively to flip manafort. okay. let s talk i want to ask you more about other new york times reporting, specifically the comment by ty cobb, the president s attorney specifically brought in to a deal with the questions about russia. he said that the white house counsel done mcgahn has a couple documents locked in a safe. what kind of information would
investigators wire-tapped paul manafort under a secret court order before and after the election. cnn s evan perez, shim own and pamela brown broke the story of why the government was listening to someone so close to the president. pamela joins me now. good evening to you. what are you learning? well, don, sources tell our team that the fbi got permgts from the secret surveillance court to monitor paul manafort both before and after the election as you mentioned and this is an extraordinary step for the fbi to do surveillance of a high-ranking campaign official. fb, manafort is now at the center of the russia meddling probe. and we re told that there are intercepted communications that did raise concerns among investigators about whether manafort was encouraging russians to help the campaign, some sources told us though others cautioned that intelligence was not conclusive.
myself in this group, you know, donald trump has no business being president and he won the presiden presidency in the ugliest way imaginable and he s governing in an awfully ugly way. it s hard how that happened. i had misgivings about secretary clinton, but nares no doubt in my mind that we d be better served by her as president than by donald trump. all right. let s talk about some of the tactics that s being used by this administration, and i want to do it through the lens of sean spicer. and let s talk about it through the lens of his camo at the elm my. watch this and we ll talk. unfortunately, at this point we have no way of knowing how big our audience is. i mean, is there anyone who can say how big the audience is? sean, do you know? this will be the largest